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September 18, 2023

Parental

by David M Willis on July 14, 2020 at 12:01 am
  • 04 - Is a Song Forever?

└ Tags: beatrice, jennifer, nash, rose, sal, walky

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    July 14, 2020 at 12:02 am | #

    “eh, it’s three a’ Joyce, ah got this”

    • RowenMorland
      RowenMorland
      July 14, 2020 at 4:36 pm | #

      “Three a’ Joyce and all is well!”

  2. King Daniel
    King Daniel
    July 14, 2020 at 12:03 am | #

    Hail to the Queen

  3. Hornet
    Hornet
    July 14, 2020 at 12:03 am | #

    Seem the cult has a new Grand Goddess.
    I dunno who I’m more afraid for!

    • NinjaNick
      NinjaNick
      July 14, 2020 at 12:04 am | #

      Cult of S.A.L. (Super Awesome Lady).

  4. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    July 14, 2020 at 12:03 am | #

    Sal: Look, you’ve got it all wrong! You don’t need to follow me, you don’t need to follow anybody! You’ve got to think for yourselves! You’re all individuals!

    Quad Squad: Yes! We’re all individuals!

    Sal: You’re all different!

    Quad Squad: Yes, we are all different!

    Nash: …I’m not.

    Quad Squad: Shhh!

    • BigDogLittleCat
      BigDogLittleCat
      July 14, 2020 at 12:06 am | #

      The shoe or the gourd?

    • JetstreamGW
      JetstreamGW
      July 14, 2020 at 12:23 am | #

      “I have an individual point of view!” “I agree, I also have an individual point of view!” “And I agree with both of them!”

      “””WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN INDIVIDUAL POINT OF VIEW!”””

      • StClair
        StClair
        July 14, 2020 at 1:18 am | #

        *claps, then leans in to whisper* beat ya by ten minutes. 😉

        • JetstreamGW
          JetstreamGW
          July 15, 2020 at 12:01 am | #

          Look, I can’t be expected to search entire threads for obscure Garfield and Friends deep cuts, okay!?

          “Oh we are the buddy bears, we never ever fight!”

      • Roborat
        Roborat
        July 15, 2020 at 3:54 pm | #

        I don’t

  5. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    July 14, 2020 at 12:03 am | #

    –Leader of the PACK! *motorcycle rumble effects*

    • vlademir1
      vlademir1
      July 14, 2020 at 12:23 am | #

      Damn… Now Dee Snider is in my head.

      • Sunny
        Sunny
        July 14, 2020 at 8:14 am | #

        You say that like it’s a bad thing?

  6. Mra
    Mra
    July 14, 2020 at 12:05 am | #

    I am just finding the girls in Billie’s dorm more and more shallow and annoying

    • Mra
      Mra
      July 14, 2020 at 12:05 am | #

      Save for Lucy

      • clif
        clif
        July 14, 2020 at 1:45 am | #

        Sal meets Lucy. Sal and Malaya discover a common bond.

        • DailyBrad
          DailyBrad
          July 14, 2020 at 5:51 am | #

          Eh, she’d probably stomach Lucy easier than Malaya did, given she’s warmed up to Joyce. Of course, she likes Joyce a lot more now that she’s made an effort to be better about not propping her up on a pedestal.

  7. DrWattson
    DrWattson
    July 14, 2020 at 12:05 am | #

    Oh my god, it’s a floor full of Joyces. I should have noticed sooner.

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      July 14, 2020 at 1:24 am | #

      When the Whiteboard Dingdong Bandit plague strikes this floor, it will be epic.

  8. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    July 14, 2020 at 12:05 am | #

    You know I”m actually starting to feel bad for these girls. I know they’re the the most irrelevant of background characters but damn.. grow a sense of individuality and freedom.

    • Hornet
      Hornet
      July 14, 2020 at 12:10 am | #

      Aw, c’mon!
      I’m sure there’s WAY more irrelevant background characters in this comic!
      (Does DOA have a “Whitney McJority”?)

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        July 14, 2020 at 12:15 am | #

        I guess technically they can’t be considered true “background characters” if they have named tags. But they are pretty irrelevent. I stand by that.

      • Kamino Neko
        Kamino Neko
        July 14, 2020 at 1:36 am | #

        Pretty sure he worked for Robin. Back when she had a staff that was more than Becky.

    • StClair
      StClair
      July 14, 2020 at 12:12 am | #

      “But what about having an individual point of view?”
      “I have an individual point of view.”
      “And I agree with him.”
      “And I agree with both of them.”
      “We all have an individual point of view!”

      • Hornet
        Hornet
        July 14, 2020 at 1:30 am | #

        Reminds me of the joke we had back in the 90s about the “Individuals of a Certain Subculture” who all walked, talked, dressed and acted alike whose motto seemed to be “I’m a nonconformist Loner — just like ALL my friends”!

        • StClair
          StClair
          July 14, 2020 at 4:47 am | #

          let me guess, they all shopped at Hot Topic?
          “the-official-source-for-mass-produced-alternative-culture-at-a-mall-or-shopping-center-near-you”

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            July 14, 2020 at 6:13 am | #

            Where all the preppy vampire kids shop? No actual non-conformists would ever shop at Hot Topic.

            • Geneseepaws
              Geneseepaws
              July 14, 2020 at 8:26 am | #

              I was not one of those, but I noticed we all shopped at Teh Gapp, cause Counter Culture. Now it is all quartz and granite counter culture.

              • Needfuldoer
                Needfuldoer
                July 14, 2020 at 12:42 pm | #

                You’ve got to hit Lowes, Home Depot, Menard’s, or Grossmann’s for some real counter culture.

        • Skeptible
          Skeptible
          July 14, 2020 at 12:09 pm | #

          I too mocked those people (but not loudly enough for anyone to hear it) for being different in the same way, but in hindsight, I give them credit for opting out of the majority culture and don’t blame them for joining a different one.

  9. BigDogLittleCat
    BigDogLittleCat
    July 14, 2020 at 12:05 am | #

    Wow. Sal is so comfortable with her scar now. IIRC every other time she’s been defensive about it. Now, it’s just part of her past.

    • DrWattson
      DrWattson
      July 14, 2020 at 12:10 am | #

      I’m sure at this point she just wears the glove because it’s part of the outfit.

  10. Hornet
    Hornet
    July 14, 2020 at 12:08 am | #

    It just dawned on me that I don’t remember ever actually seeing Sal’s scar!
    Can any deep divers point me toward it, if it’s ever been shown?
    What I guess I’m asking is: is it just that big and gash-y, or is Sal semi-uncharacteristically being overly self-conscious over an “imperfection”/wound? I mean, it’s (physically) healed, right?

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      July 14, 2020 at 12:10 am | #

      https://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-9-comic/01-flyin-to-the-red/knows/

      Fairly big (in proportion to her hand) and still a very angry red.

      Sal did mention to Danny she doesn’t have full use of her hand so.

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      July 14, 2020 at 12:21 am | #

      As BBCC said. Definitely big and noticeable (Joyce immediately notices and has questions when Sal doesn’t wear gloves the next day – incidentally, the strip after this one is GREAT Salness for this strip as well, https://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-9-comic/02-but-the-sun-still-shines/endthings/) and also permanently disabling.

      Comments at the time speculated that, given the way the scar’s drawn, the lasting effects, and the ‘it was a big fucking knife stabbed STRAIGHT down,’ it probably did some serious damage to bones and tendons.

      • Hornet
        Hornet
        July 14, 2020 at 1:39 am | #

        Thanks, BBCC and Regalli!

      • Marsh Maryrose
        Marsh Maryrose
        July 14, 2020 at 1:40 pm | #

        And the one before it has one of those great Willis lines that I’m always forgetting until I remember them:

        “I hate your stupid grumpy face…I want to kiss it”

    • Bicycle Bill
      Bicycle Bill
      July 14, 2020 at 11:14 pm | #

      Scars do take a while to fade.  I had my shoulder rebuilt after a bike crash in 2006 and the scar, although it healed well, was still pretty livid for about five years after and it was ten years or more before it finally faded enough that I could wear tank-tops without it being too noticeable.

  11. BBCC
    BBCC
    July 14, 2020 at 12:08 am | #

    Yeaaaaahhhhh, no wonder Joyce seemed unpleasant to Sal when they first met.

  12. Yumi
    Yumi
    July 14, 2020 at 12:09 am | #

    Oh, good.
    Them.

  13. General Tekno
    General Tekno
    July 14, 2020 at 12:09 am | #

    Hey, she’s opening up from the get go. Some character development right there.

  14. EvilMidnightLurker
    EvilMidnightLurker
    July 14, 2020 at 12:10 am | #

    “Why Amber?”

    “It’s the only thing she can think of to do that would give her any control over the situation. There’s like a thousand better things she could do, and at least a hundred of them would also involve her having some control, but this is literally the only one she can think of.”

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      July 14, 2020 at 12:21 am | #

      ‘Mom’s imagination is sometimes very… single-track.’

  15. Sporky
    Sporky
    July 14, 2020 at 12:11 am | #

    OMG. Is Sal going to meet Lucy?! PLEASE

    • Alex Boston
      Alex Boston
      July 14, 2020 at 12:19 am | #

      Seems only fair, since Malaya met Joyce.

  16. butts
    butts
    July 14, 2020 at 12:13 am | #

    yeah me too

  17. Burpo
    Burpo
    July 14, 2020 at 12:15 am | #

    Why do I imagine those 3 sounding like the Pizza Planet aliens from Toy Story?

    • Bicycle Bill
      Bicycle Bill
      July 14, 2020 at 12:54 am | #

      “the Scaaarrrrr…….”

  18. KSClaw
    KSClaw
    July 14, 2020 at 12:17 am | #

    Good grief, what’s with that weird mentality?

    • Kernanator
      Kernanator
      July 14, 2020 at 12:23 am | #

      The world is full of people desperate for someone to put on a pedestal, regardless of their actual character.

    • C.T Phipps
      C.T Phipps
      July 14, 2020 at 12:39 am | #

      Fan stands for fanatic. It’s not really all that uncommon.

      Who do you think posts all the, “I will kill the creators for having Spider-Man get married! He’s my boyfriend” are by.

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        July 14, 2020 at 12:53 am | #

        Look, you have your hobbies, I have mine.

        • clif
          clif
          July 14, 2020 at 1:28 am | #

          Everyone needs a hobby.

  19. Regalli
    Regalli
    July 14, 2020 at 12:24 am | #

    I would actually love to see any sleeve tattoo Sal gets! (Though uh, that does seem like a very good way to put her in long sleeves again forever, depending on the complexity.)

  20. Axel
    Axel
    July 14, 2020 at 12:29 am | #

    they’re going to be so spoked when they find out she also knows asl

    • Some1
      Some1
      July 14, 2020 at 12:41 am | #

      Nah, knowing asl, while an impressive accomplishment, is not typically viewed as traditionally “cool”. They aren’t looking for someone with real accomplishments or skills, they’re looking for someone who fits their very limited idea of what a popular person is like.

      • Miri
        Miri
        July 14, 2020 at 12:50 am | #

        I think Axel was coming more from the “given that one of them is deaf/mute and uses it” angle 🙂 Otherwise people like Dorothy would have eager fans willing to follow her example and advice… Poor Dotty!

        • Axel
          Axel
          July 14, 2020 at 2:25 am | #

          Yes. She is cool and also she can use asl, so she’s cool and able to communicate with everyone

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          July 14, 2020 at 6:02 am | #

          Beatrice is Deaf and uses ASL, but what residual hearing she has (if any) is yet to be confirmed. We do know she isn’t mute, and has spoken numerous times on-panel.

          https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-8/01-face-the-strange/stereotypically/

          • Axel
            Axel
            July 14, 2020 at 6:55 pm | #

            I might be misremembering, I thought there were scenes where people were actively translating for her (although even then, she could be able to hear some frequencies/volumes but not others, so you’re right anyway)

            • Needfuldoer
              Needfuldoer
              July 14, 2020 at 8:38 pm | #

              No, you’re right. We’ve seen Nash signing for her before.

              https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-8/01-face-the-strange/legends/

    • Axel
      Axel
      July 14, 2020 at 2:27 am | #

      *stoked, not spoked or spooked

    • Geneseepaws
      Geneseepaws
      July 14, 2020 at 8:31 am | #

      I just noticed Sal is ASL spelled sideways. Ugh, I need more coffee.

  21. Erica
    Erica
    July 14, 2020 at 12:37 am | #

    I really hate this dorm

    • Puckish Rogue
      Puckish Rogue
      July 14, 2020 at 9:48 am | #

      Hate is a strong word (you’re not wrong though)

  22. C.T Phipps
    C.T Phipps
    July 14, 2020 at 12:37 am | #

    I want Billie to fist fight Sal, defeat her, and regain control of her kingdom.

    I think the Girl Posse really made Billie as a character.

    We need them to return to their master!

  23. Derek
    Derek
    July 14, 2020 at 12:38 am | #

    Oh yay, it’s the dorm of pod people, my favourite (sarcastically)

  24. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    July 14, 2020 at 12:48 am | #

    Just sayin this. Maybe Amber deserves to be kicked out of school. Not for stabbing Sal, or stabbing Ryan, or operating as a vigilante, or being related to a guy who kidnapped students and killed a man. No. She deserves to be kicked out for hacking into the school computers and manipulating Walky’s grades that one time! Even going so far as to scale the side of a building (which was probably way extra) to steal the hard copy! That’s major grounds for expulsion and the biggest academic crime Amber has ever committed probably. So uhhh take that Amber!

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      July 14, 2020 at 12:55 am | #

      On the other hand, it’s the grades for a freshman’s first quarter. They matter about as much as anything anyone has ever done in high school.

      • Regalli
        Regalli
        July 14, 2020 at 2:03 am | #

        Academic integrity policies do not give a shit, and the fact that she’d do so AT ALL is absolutely a thing she’d get expelled over. (I know someone who got a dropped letter grade and had to go before the appropriate council for accidentally forgetting to cite something in a submitted rough draft. Like, a very minor and legitimately accidental thing, as said conduct council decided! Still got a letter grade drop on the whole assignment. Academic integrity policies go HARD.)

        It’s an INCREDIBLY bad move. For that matter, her stalking Sal? Was totally a thing worthy of all that Lindaing. The issue is that what Linda is Lindaing over is the ‘related to a guy who kidnapped my son, oh and also her I guess’.

        • Regalli
          Regalli
          July 14, 2020 at 2:04 am | #

          May have been the class even, I don’t remember.

        • Chris Phoenix
          Chris Phoenix
          July 14, 2020 at 2:20 am | #

          Depends on the school. My ex-wife used to teach at Miami Dade College. She was not allowed to flunk students for blatant plagiarism (like google a phrase and find a paragraph verbatim). The administration pointed out that she hadn’t made them sign a paper saying they wouldn’t plagiarize.

          So, next class, she made them sign it. Some of them still plagiarized. She still wasn’t allowed to flunk them. She quit.

          Her students were future teachers.

          • ischemgeek
            ischemgeek
            July 14, 2020 at 5:38 am | #

            A uni I used to work at as a TA technically would let you flunk a student for cheating… But they could take it to the Dean and then appeal to the disciplinary committee and onus was on the prof to prove the student intended to cheat and knew it was wrong and the whole process would take MONTHS at a school where most profs had 3-4 courses plus a research program to manage every semester so most profs didn’t bother.

            Most of my students were aspiring engineers, scientists and pre-med students.

        • temperaryobsessor
          temperaryobsessor
          July 14, 2020 at 8:48 am | #

          Yea that does seem harsh for a rough draft, on the other hand the consequences appear to have been localized to the paper in the end.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      July 14, 2020 at 5:51 am | #

      Not sure what the likelihood of her getting caught for that is, though. She didn’t do something as blatant as giving him straight As, and she edited Jason’s records (which would be scrutinized if he confesses to having a relationship with a student in one of his classes).

      There’s definitely another shoe waiting to drop, though.

  25. abysswatcher1993
    abysswatcher1993
    July 14, 2020 at 12:56 am | #

    People that can’t choose for themselves are annoying. It’s like giving away your freewill to some demiurge at the bottom of Mementos, or becomming the slave of a giant golden head.

    • clif
      clif
      July 14, 2020 at 1:53 am | #

      You don’t believe people should be able to choose for themselves whether to choose for themselves?

      That seems … odd.

      • Psychie
        Psychie
        July 14, 2020 at 2:19 am | #

        I don’t believe they made any prescriptive statements, they didn’t say what they think people should or shouldn’t do, they made a statement about their personal emotional reaction to the behaviors of others.

        I personally get annoyed by people who drink/smoke/do drugs, but I am firmly of the opinion that recreational substances should be legalized, regulated, and taxed. Just because I wouldn’t do something and might think someone is an idiot for doing it, doesn’t mean I don’t fully support their right to stupidity.

        • clif
          clif
          July 14, 2020 at 11:00 am | #

          Good point.

      • DSL
        DSL
        July 15, 2020 at 1:21 pm | #

        Choosing to not choose? Seems rather slap-stick-ick.

    • Eldritchy
      Eldritchy
      July 14, 2020 at 11:15 am | #

      I’m getting Life of Brian flashbacks. For one thing Sal’s mother already believes that she is a very naughty girl.

  26. Bicycle Bill
    Bicycle Bill
    July 14, 2020 at 1:04 am | #

    It’s not just a spider, Sal, it’s a tarantugun, and you should have called it that.  I know you think that THEY don’t know that, but sometimes you’d be surprised to find out who-all is in the fandom.

    And if nothing else, you get to introduce them to it.  That’s how my former girlfriend got me turned on to Terry Pratchett and the Discworld.

    • showler
      showler
      July 14, 2020 at 1:53 pm | #

      Is it though? I thought DW mentioned at some point that the Tarantuguns are not part of Dexter and Monkey Master and that Sal’s spider design was the way to incorporate them into this world.

      • Sombrero
        Sombrero
        July 14, 2020 at 6:34 pm | #

        Wait until she completes the tatoo with a Martian:

        “Yeah, uh, it’s an eagle… ah guess”

  27. Newllend(henryvolt)
    Newllend(henryvolt)
    July 14, 2020 at 1:37 am | #

    Sal: Ah wish there was an of button to this but there ain’t.

  28. clif
    clif
    July 14, 2020 at 1:40 am | #

    QED. All days are Tuesday.

  29. clif
    clif
    July 14, 2020 at 1:40 am | #

    You can say that again.

  30. SalleighG
    SalleighG
    July 14, 2020 at 1:43 am | #

    https://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-9-comic/01-flyin-to-the-red/fwap/ has a better look at the tattoo

  31. BenRG
    BenRG
    July 14, 2020 at 2:11 am | #

    Forrest Hall – Where strange people are always looking for the next powerful personality upon whom to fixate! I wonder if Sal really is ready to handle a dorm full of ultra-Joyces but without her sweetness and charm?

    • Eldritchy
      Eldritchy
      July 14, 2020 at 3:53 am | #

      Unlike Billie she can actually escape… on her motorcycle… which will only make her more desirable to them.

  32. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    July 14, 2020 at 2:22 am | #

    Why does every part of this sequence feel inevitable?

    • clif
      clif
      July 14, 2020 at 2:10 pm | #

      Personally, I blame Willis.

  33. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    July 14, 2020 at 4:15 am | #

    Hot.

  34. FacelessDeviant
    FacelessDeviant
    July 14, 2020 at 5:24 am | #

    She already does ,girls. She already does.

    That sentence looks weird.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      July 14, 2020 at 5:46 am | #

      It demonstrates the importance of punctuation.

      Sort of like “let’s eat, Frank” vs “let’s eat Frank”.

      • AGV
        AGV
        July 14, 2020 at 6:05 am | #

        I, for one, I’m down on getting some Frank

        • clif
          clif
          July 14, 2020 at 2:07 pm | #

          As Frank will be happy to learn.

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        July 14, 2020 at 7:34 am | #

        Pardon? Impossible!

        No, money down!

        (Wait, I’ll come in again.)

    • Kamino Neko
      Kamino Neko
      July 14, 2020 at 1:29 pm | #

      Well, for one thing, the comma’s on the wrong side of the space.

      • Bicycle Bill
        Bicycle Bill
        July 14, 2020 at 11:17 pm | #

        That is the perfect avatar for when one is being pedantic.

  35. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    July 14, 2020 at 8:10 am | #

    So. Billie is the only one able to save Amber? I’m scared!

    • Geneseepaws
      Geneseepaws
      July 14, 2020 at 9:01 am | #

      Ahhhhh, the sheer Power of a college newspaper’s journalism.
      Wait, how’s Billie going to help Amber?

      • JessWitt
        JessWitt
        July 14, 2020 at 9:12 am | #

        She will publish an opinion piece defending Amber’s right to stay?

        • clif
          clif
          July 14, 2020 at 2:06 pm | #

          She will replace Linda with a mindless zombie under her complete control.

          • Geneseepaws
            Geneseepaws
            July 14, 2020 at 2:19 pm | #

            Will her journalistic skills reveal why Linda thinks Amber Framed Sal? Why else hate Amber so? Sal was robbing the place.
            I just don’t buy it, that Linda blames Amber and then sends Sal away for half a decade?? WTF?

  36. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    July 14, 2020 at 8:35 am | #

    Been a while since we’ve seen Billie versus Sal in the popularity rounds.

    As usual, TKO by Sal! It’s practically effortless! *ding ding*

  37. JBento
    JBento
    July 14, 2020 at 8:43 am | #

    Ah, the pod people return.

  38. hof1991
    hof1991
    July 14, 2020 at 9:29 am | #

    So weird. These first semester college students behave a lot like high school students. Its like they haven’t aged much during the last decade the comic has been running.

  39. BenRG
    BenRG
    July 14, 2020 at 10:24 am | #

    I suspect that Amber will have to ‘come out’ as Amazi-Girl at some point in this arc.

    I’m still thinking that Robin will be the key figure in this. She’ll make a statement about Becky’s near-kidnapping n which she cites Amber and Sal as ‘true American heroes’. Suddenly, they’ll be untouchable and Sal will need to have a shower after her mother tries to pretend that she values her.

    Amber’s sudden political capital will persuade the police to say they will look the other way so long as there is no more beating up delinquents (except in the defence of herself and her friends but even then not in costume). Being outperformed by a self-trained vigilante is bad for the professional mystique, after all.

  40. bcb
    bcb
    July 14, 2020 at 10:51 am | #

    I forgot who Beatrice was before this page.

  41. Heavensrun
    Heavensrun
    July 14, 2020 at 2:35 pm | #

    “Been thinkin’ a sleeve, but then the artist’ll have ta draw it, so ah’ll just end up wearin’ mah jacket ev’rwhere…”

    • Mydnyt
      Mydnyt
      July 14, 2020 at 2:54 pm | #

      “Ah’ll even be forced to keep it on for the slipshines.”

      I… don’t see a problem with that…

  42. SalleighG
    SalleighG
    July 14, 2020 at 5:57 pm | #

    mods: I accidentally left an unterminated href in the above seemingly empty comment. It seems to be affecting page loads of the comments. please delete it.

  43. Sombrero
    Sombrero
    July 14, 2020 at 6:38 pm | #

    DoA Book 10: “So What Specific Parental Issue Are We Dealing With Today?”

  44. Amazi-Stool
    Amazi-Stool
    July 14, 2020 at 7:32 pm | #

    hovertext: “for me, it just was all days”

    OK, one of the best Tuesday jokes ever made!

  45. Bagge
    Bagge
    July 16, 2020 at 2:52 pm | #

    aaaaaalpha bong… sweet… just alpha.

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