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by David M Willis on January 6, 2021 at 12:01 am
  • 02 - Look Straight Ahead
└ Tags: becky, dorothy, joyce

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    January 6, 2021 at 12:04 am | #

    “JOYCE, I’M HERE FOR YA, YA ENORMOUS BABY”

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      January 6, 2021 at 12:04 am | #

      “NOTHIN’ CAN BREAK THE BONDS OF FRIENDSHIP, EVEN ONE OF US BEIN’ A TOTAL WUSS!”

      • Dean
        Dean
        January 6, 2021 at 2:56 am | #

        “I’ll stand here and cluck like a chicken to support you!”

  2. BBCC
    BBCC
    January 6, 2021 at 12:04 am | #

    XD Becky, you’ve known her all her life. I dunno what you expected.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      January 6, 2021 at 12:05 am | #

      DAMMIT. Once again, Booster, I adore you, but you are not whom I seek.

      • Vangeln
        Vangeln
        January 6, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

        I’m sure Booster had heard that before.

  3. Chris
    Chris
    January 6, 2021 at 12:06 am | #

    I see Becky has no problem with taking the Lord’s name in vain.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      January 6, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

      May not count in their church. Lots only consider ‘goddammit’ to be such.

    • Johan
      Johan
      January 6, 2021 at 12:21 am | #

      I always saw it as a asking God for strength or like Jesus Christ look at your ward or whatever.

    • Blindness
      Blindness
      January 6, 2021 at 12:41 am | #

      She’s seen her mother kill herself, been nearly kidnapped with intent to be killed by her homicidal father TWICE…at this point taking the lord’s name in vain is next to not giving a crap at all in her book

      • He Who Abides
        He Who Abides
        January 6, 2021 at 6:53 am | #

        Ross might’ve been a monster, but he never intended to kill Becky. Torture her into submission, yes, but that’s a whole other thing entirely.

        • Makkabee
          Makkabee
          January 6, 2021 at 10:06 am | #

          But killing her WAS his Plan B.

          In Ross’s twisted thinking:

          Ideal Outcome: break her spirit and turn her into a submissive heterosexual cultist.

          Acceptable fallback: Kill her before she can have sex so she still goes to heaven as kinda-sorta-technically-not-gay.

          Worst Case Scenario: Becky escapes and enjoys a fulfilling, happy, same-sex relationship that dooms her soul to eternal torment.

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          January 6, 2021 at 2:56 pm | #

          I mean, he was going to send her to a conversion therapy camp okay with taking a kidnapped adult. Those places tend to have a scary high death rate.

          • Daniel M Ball
            Daniel M Ball
            January 6, 2021 at 10:58 pm | #

            Those places (and the mentality behind them) are just frikkin scary period.

  4. Dara
    Dara
    January 6, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

    goddammit panel 2

    if this is enemies to lovers i’m gonna be so… pleased….

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      January 6, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

      They’re only half-enemies, so they could only progress to half-lovers.

      • James
        James
        January 6, 2021 at 12:10 am | #

        Frenemies with benefits?

        • PB
          PB
          January 6, 2021 at 12:16 am | #

          I’m … surprisingly okay with that!

          • Krylani
            Krylani
            January 6, 2021 at 1:52 am | #

            I don’t think Dina would be.

            • Reltzik
              Reltzik
              January 6, 2021 at 2:46 am | #

              I suspect Dina would be rationally open to experimenting with something poly if the idea was run by her and she thought it through logically, but would be feral-possessive otherwise.

              • Dara
                Dara
                January 6, 2021 at 5:22 am | #

                yes this exactly. i do not want to see dina lose her girlfriend in this. however, we already have one polycule, and you know what’s better than one background polycule? ^_^

                • Seregiel
                  Seregiel
                  January 6, 2021 at 7:08 am | #

                  Dorothy said she was a 1 on the Kinsey Scale so probably no go…

                • Needfuldoer
                  Needfuldoer
                  January 6, 2021 at 8:58 am | #

                  If the two polycules bond, would that make polyester?

                • Deanatay
                  Deanatay
                  January 6, 2021 at 11:16 am | #

                  Only if they bond over someone named Esther…

                • Needfuldoer
                  Needfuldoer
                  January 7, 2021 at 8:32 am | #

                  Then after they all go out for sodas as a polycarbonate.

        • Dara
          Dara
          January 6, 2021 at 12:21 am | #

          I like it.

      • FacelessDeviant
        FacelessDeviant
        January 6, 2021 at 7:26 am | #

        Half-lovers half-enemies?

        Is that like, two people with crappy personal chemistry that are making out?

        • Despite Rage
          Despite Rage
          January 6, 2021 at 2:02 pm | #

          Every relationship ever?

    • Blindness
      Blindness
      January 6, 2021 at 12:43 am | #

      it’s one-sided, Dorothy doesn’t see her as an enemy so it’s more like apathetic to understanding the needs of the moment.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        January 6, 2021 at 9:03 am | #

        It’s an unrequited rivalry.

    • Oberon
      Oberon
      January 6, 2021 at 12:48 am | #

      I’m pretty sure that Becky isn’t going to go from girlfriends with Dina to lovers with Dorothy. I mean, try to think clearly here: Becky is the one holding back on the “pre-marital hanky panky,” not Dina. And Dorothy appears to be one of the few straight members of this ensemble.

      • Dara
        Dara
        January 6, 2021 at 5:23 am | #

        I don’t actually think so either but I’m still amused by the idea. xD

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      January 6, 2021 at 2:49 am | #

      Only Becky seems to think they’re enemies. Dorothy definitely doesn’t see Becky as her enemy. And I’m hoping Becky stops thinking that soon.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      January 6, 2021 at 10:18 pm | #

      Girlfreinemies.

  5. Octopus Ink
    Octopus Ink
    January 6, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

    To be fair, ANYTHING going into/onto the eyeball, EVEN AIR, is at least mildly unpleasant.

    • Blindness
      Blindness
      January 6, 2021 at 12:44 am | #

      …you have had worse from the wind blowing on a breezy day. It’s more about being a whiny baby than about any pain or discomfort.

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        January 6, 2021 at 12:51 am | #

        Different people react differently to stimulus. A number of people on here have commented about disliking the air puffs. I don’t think anyone’s being a whiny baby.

      • Jamie
        Jamie
        January 6, 2021 at 12:55 am | #

        Normally, you’d close or shield your eyes on a windy day, or at least blink regularly.

        Most operators of that machine seem to be waiting patiently for you to keep your eye open for what feels like a full minute before they hit the button.

      • Eclipsa
        Eclipsa
        January 6, 2021 at 1:22 am | #

        It’s not just that it’s air. It’s sudden and you know it’s coming, and the anticipation gets you. And it’s a pretty strong puff.

        • temperaryobsessor
          temperaryobsessor
          January 6, 2021 at 10:36 am | #

          The puff itself is mildly uncomfortable but the instinct is when anything touches your eyes to blink and your not allowed to blink.

      • Aletheia
        Aletheia
        January 6, 2021 at 2:28 am | #

        In addition to everyone else’s points: on a windy day I have literal windshields in the form of glasses in front of my eyes. Not so much with the Puff Machine of Doom(TM). 😛

      • Katherine
        Katherine
        January 6, 2021 at 6:14 am | #

        I sure haven’t, the glasses prevent my eyes being blown on.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        January 6, 2021 at 9:04 am | #

        It’s the anticipation while sticking your head in a medical contraption in a dark room that make it 10x worse than it actually is.

    • Jhon
      Jhon
      January 6, 2021 at 1:36 pm | #

      Becky is not impressed by the nightmare machine.

  6. HeinousActsZX
    HeinousActsZX
    January 6, 2021 at 12:09 am | #

    I’m waiting on the part lens comparison machine thing. Always the most fun part of your glasses exam.

  7. crow
    crow
    January 6, 2021 at 12:14 am | #

    Dorothy just doesn’t want to get up

    • Blindness
      Blindness
      January 6, 2021 at 12:44 am | #

      nah, she understands that Becky needs to do that for her own sake…plus it gets rid of Becky for a minute or two

      • Eclipsa
        Eclipsa
        January 6, 2021 at 1:38 am | #

        Also Dorothy is the one who is making Joyce do this.

        • clif
          clif
          January 6, 2021 at 3:51 am | #

          Dorothy is the one convincing Joyce to do this. She has no ability to make Joyce do anything. On the other hand, this is Dorothy managing Becky. Yet another example of the fact that manipulative and evil are two unrelated qualities.

          • Miri
            Miri
            January 6, 2021 at 5:38 am | #

            This is getting Becky to see it’s in Joyce’s best interests, and that Becky plays a unique, valuable, appreciated role in Joyce’s life that Dorothy can’t (and wouldn’t try to) replace. I’m not sure if it’s so much manipulative as excellent (and empathetic) people management…

            • Schpoonman
              Schpoonman
              January 6, 2021 at 12:11 pm | #

              If you view Dorothy as being so administrative or bureaucratic because she is trying to make her world neat and orderly for her own selfish pleasure, yes, you could paint her as manipulative.

              If you weren’t trying to outgun Ayn Rand in cynicism, no. What I can’t parse is why people want Dorothy to be more heavily flawed like the other characters when she works best as a straight man to characters like Becky and Joyce.

              • Regalli
                Regalli
                January 6, 2021 at 2:54 pm | #

                Personally, I always prefer a character who has an arc and eventually hits walls they can’t simply jump over, and Dorothy’s very much a main one. But it’s also a thing that Dorothy DOES have flaws that have only gotten minimal narrative attention so far, or haven’t quite been focused in on as flaws – the overstudying arc, for instance, makes it very clear that Dorothy DOESN’T have an appropriate work-relaxation balance, and that is a genuine issue that can cause lasting physical harm. Its resolution wasn’t really because Dorothy learned she had overextended and needed to rest more, but because she broke up with Walky and then finished her extra credit – narratively unsatisfying and kind of iffy if there’s no followup because it reads a bit ‘ambitious women can’t have relationships’, and I don’t think the Walky tutoring alone was what pushed her over the edge. (Dorothy herself acknowledges that she’d taken on more volunteer work than she could balance.) Now, I DON’T think that was the resolution of that character point, but you can kind of see where the issues are if ‘sure Dorothy pushes herself to the point where she neglects food and sleep and broke up with a boyfriend who provided a relaxation outlet, but she got into Yale so none of that’s REALLY a bad thing’ were actually the ultimate outcome there.

                Similarly, we have seen Dorothy have a goalpost-moving issue in her relationship with Walky (‘it’s purely casual’/‘okay it’s a relationship but not, like, a serious one’/‘I love you’ and the pause-that-basically-wasn’t.) I don’t think that was manipulative, or intentional boundary-pushing on her part, but it was a genuine flaw with the relationship and Dorothy’s actions in it. Not an unforgiveable one, but a flaw nonetheless. (I’m willing to put the Danny breakup as ‘Dorothy was trying to let him down gently for months and he could not take the hint’ and a mutual failure, but that still should have been a much firmer breakup much sooner.)

                We’re also seeing some similar things this arc that Dorothy has some benevolent boundary-disrespecting in the name of Mom Friend. Which, yes, Joyce objectively needed an eye appointment and was absurdly childish in her fear of it, but was still a questionable call. (The fact that Dorothy brought the agoraphobia aspect up to Becky and not Joyce herself, for instance, feels a bit patronizing the more I think about it.) Again, not unforgiveable, and because it’s Joyce I do see where Dorothy would find it the best option, but still one of those things she does need to learn is over the line at some point. Fortunately, it’s college! I think her perceptiveness here also kind of illustrates why it weirded people out in the replacement RA storyline, as well – Dorothy picks up A LOT about people naturally, which is fine, but if she brings it up without interacting with them a lot or suggests a solution to their problem unsolicited, that feels less like ‘Dorothy’s a good friend’ and more invasive.

                In short, Dorothy’s just as flawed as the rest of the main cast but less consistently acknowledged as flawed, and character development is interesting so some of us want said flaws addressed. (I also want Dorothy to eventually lose her temper over Becky as much for Becky’s development as Dorothy’s – eventually she’s got to realize the goofball ‘nemesis’ thing isn’t particularly funny to anyone but her, and can be genuinely harmful.)

          • crow
            crow
            January 6, 2021 at 4:30 pm | #

            I mean, what little I’ve read of How to Win Friends and Influence People seemed to mainly rely on manipulating people in a nice way. And it seems like the kind of book Dorothy would read.

          • Eclipsa
            Eclipsa
            January 7, 2021 at 4:46 pm | #

            Dorothy made the appointment without Joyce’s full consent and pretty much didn’t take no for an answer when Joyce hesitated.

            I realize Dorothy’s heart is in the right place. She’s looking out for Joyce. But that doesn’t mean the way she went about it was okay.

  8. cartoogle
    cartoogle
    January 6, 2021 at 12:14 am | #

    I like how (my interp) Becky got a little wet googly-eyed when Dotty said “nope, this is your wheelhouse, go get ‘er.”

    • Blindness
      Blindness
      January 6, 2021 at 12:45 am | #

      you got the same interpretation that I got, she “got” Becky there even if Becky doesn’t want to admit it. it’s a compliment and shows how much Dorothy actually understands her

    • Jhon
      Jhon
      January 6, 2021 at 1:33 pm | #

      Teamwork! There is no ‘eye’ in ‘team’.

  9. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    January 6, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

    Why are my comments being eaten and not posted?

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      January 6, 2021 at 12:17 am | #

      Let’s try this again.
      I love that even Becky thinks Joyce is being a wimp here. Come on Joyce, you’re a big girl, you can handle a small puff of air into your eye.

      • Kyrik Michalowski
        Kyrik Michalowski
        January 6, 2021 at 12:24 am | #

        Oh now it posts, I see how it is. Fucking computers

        • King Daniel
          King Daniel
          January 6, 2021 at 2:16 am | #

          Well I mean, if that’s what you’re into…

          • Reltzik
            Reltzik
            January 6, 2021 at 2:40 am | #

            That’s what the Internet’s for. (Source: Avenue Q.)

            • ktbear
              ktbear
              January 6, 2021 at 3:12 am | #

              Huh, an unexpected reference I actually got.

        • Chris Phoenix
          Chris Phoenix
          January 6, 2021 at 3:57 am | #

          I’m really tempted to link to the QC where Sven and May get together.

          …Giving in to temptation. May be NSFW depending on your W.

  10. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    January 6, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

    Substitution, mass confusion,
    Clouds inside your head
    Involving all my energies,
    Until you visited
    With your eyes of porcelain and of blue,
    They shock me into sense
    You think you’re so illustrious,
    You call yourself intense
    –The Cars

  11. plasticwrap
    plasticwrap
    January 6, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

    Cute.

  12. PB
    PB
    January 6, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

    That was … actually a genuinely sweet moment between Dorothy and Becky. This is a good late holiday present.

  13. Illjwamh
    Illjwamh
    January 6, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

    I laughed so hard at Becky’s final line. It’s one that would only be mildly funny without the connection to these characters that’s been built up, and that’s why I love this comic so much.

  14. cmasta1992
    cmasta1992
    January 6, 2021 at 12:18 am | #

    Y’know what I’m going to take today’s Becky-Dorothy interaction as win and not worry about the reset button in two days.

    • Jordan
      Jordan
      January 6, 2021 at 11:58 pm | #

      You think it’ll take that long? I’m not as hopeful, sadly.

  15. tim gueguen
    tim gueguen
    January 6, 2021 at 12:19 am | #

    I suddenly wonder if Joyce hasn’t been avoiding other checkups.

  16. Jane
    Jane
    January 6, 2021 at 12:21 am | #

    D’aw. Becky putting into words her secret fears that Dorothy really is the better friend, while Dorothy tacitly reassures her that there are things only Becky can do,, is totes adorbs.

    It’s really refreshing, considering how contentious their relationship often is. Well, one-sidedly contentious, at least.

  17. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    January 6, 2021 at 12:22 am | #

    Apparently if I change my email, my comments can’t be posted. So there is that, I guess.

    But let’s try one more time:

    I love how even Becky thinks Joyce is being a wimp. Come on Joyce, you are a big girl, you can handle a small puff of air at your eye.

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      January 6, 2021 at 12:22 am | #

      Oh fuck that noise, please not Booster.

      • Kyrik Michalowski
        Kyrik Michalowski
        January 6, 2021 at 12:23 am | #

        Oooo, yay Amber. This is perfectly acceptable.

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      January 6, 2021 at 12:25 am | #

      Change your email how? If you’re using a completely different email address, then yeah, it needs to be approved before you’re free to comment with it. But, once a comment has been cleared for posting, you should be able to use it.

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        January 6, 2021 at 1:39 am | #

        If you use G-mail there used to be an option to use yourname.n@gmail.com with n any number and it would still go through as a valid addy and mail sent to the addy would show in your inbox or you could use a filter to send it to a specific folder.

      • drs
        drs
        January 6, 2021 at 2:19 am | #

        You can change capitalization.

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          January 6, 2021 at 10:57 am | #

          …Yeah? I don’t think that’s what Kyrick was doing, but I don’t know 100%.

          • Kyrik Michalowski
            Kyrik Michalowski
            January 6, 2021 at 2:25 pm | #

            Kyrik*

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      January 6, 2021 at 2:44 am | #

      I’m not gonna try the gravatar roulette anymore now that I have my Twilight Sparkle avatar, but in the past doing grav roulette too much too fast caused me to be unable to post comments for a while. So you might want to be careful how you do the grav roulette.

  18. WanderingLynx
    WanderingLynx
    January 6, 2021 at 12:25 am | #

    Ohgodfinally. I could write an essay on why this strip is such a relief but… Yeah. Thank you, Willis. Dorothy is a saint and I’m glad that for once, Becky #Understood.

    (Gravatar Roulette, let’s go!)

    • WanderingLynx
      WanderingLynx
      January 6, 2021 at 12:26 am | #

      … Lucy I adore you but I’m looking for someone who’s got a tad more dignity . May I re-roll? ;3;

  19. LiterallyJustSomeGuy
    LiterallyJustSomeGuy
    January 6, 2021 at 12:29 am | #

    Those watery eyes in panel three are really getting to me, in response to the “you are more of what Joyce needs in this particular way.” I hope Becky learns to share custody.

    Wait. If Dorothy is like a mom to Joyce, and Becky is like a mom to Joyce, then Dorothy and Becky are both Joyce’s moms???

    • Wizard
      Wizard
      January 6, 2021 at 12:34 am | #

      Considering how crap her bio mom is, Joyce needs all the moms she can get.

    • BarerMender
      BarerMender
      January 6, 2021 at 12:39 am | #

      Joyce has two moms. I ship it.

      • Arian
        Arian
        January 6, 2021 at 3:15 am | #

        Dorothy is also two her own moms, so that makes three moms for Joyce.

        • Arian
          Arian
          January 6, 2021 at 3:15 am | #

          Oh, cool, I’m Carla now.

        • clif
          clif
          January 6, 2021 at 3:54 am | #

          It takes a village to raise a Joyce.

          • Bagge
            Bagge
            January 6, 2021 at 5:34 am | #

            I mean, given the crap job her last village did, I’d say three great moms is a minimum.

    • Blindness
      Blindness
      January 6, 2021 at 12:47 am | #

      isn’t sarah like a mom to her too? Doesn’t that make three moms?

      • Norah
        Norah
        January 6, 2021 at 1:25 am | #

        Sarah’s more like a big sister. A kind of grumpy but loving one.

      • Mariah Hardnett
        Mariah Hardnett
        January 6, 2021 at 1:44 am | #

        Sarahs her big sister. They have called each other that before

  20. RacingTurtle
    RacingTurtle
    January 6, 2021 at 12:31 am | #

    These three are a Good-aligned hat trick, aren’t they? Chaotic Becky, Neutral Joyce, and Lawful Dorothy.

    • J
      J
      January 6, 2021 at 12:57 am | #

      For that matter, what would the other cast member alignments be?
      I know there are horrid limitations to the alignment chart, especially when it comes to morals v ethics, and sources of authority, but definitely fun to think about.

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        January 6, 2021 at 1:31 am | #

        Well, I would say Walky is ChN, Toe Dad is obvs LE but believes he’s LG, Hammer Dad in motorcycle armor is ChE, Booster is I’m leaning to ChN or NN until more facts are in evidence. Lucy is either ChG or NG, again I’ll need more facts. The cops guarding Hammer Dad are LE or NE, the dudebros hired by Hammer Dad are NE to LE. And I just don’t feel like trying to remember who the characters are bad enough to finish the list, because remembering names and faces is literally painful for me.

      • Zor
        Zor
        January 6, 2021 at 2:21 am | #

        As I understand it:
        Joyce – Neutral Good
        Dorothy – Lawful Good
        Becky – Chaotic Good
        Walky – Chaotic Neutral
        Sarah – Lawful Neutral
        Sal – True Neutral
        Amber – True Neutral
        Amazi-Girl – Chaotic Good
        Dina – Neutral Good
        Ruth – Chaotic Neutral
        Jennifer – True Neutral
        Lucy – Neutral or Lawful Good
        Joe – Chaotic Neutral
        Danny – True Neutral
        Robin – Chaotic Neutral
        Leslie – Neutral Good
        Roz – Chaotic Good
        Booster – Chaotic or True Neutral
        Carla – Chaotic Neutral
        Malaya – True Neutral

        • JBento
          JBento
          January 6, 2021 at 7:00 am | #

          Ruth is Lawful Evil, the alignment of petty tyrants everywhere (and before someone brings up her brother, that’s what we call a morality pet).

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        January 6, 2021 at 2:30 am | #

        Character alignments? What a pointless waste of time. Sign me up!

        LG: Sarah, Joyce, Dorothy, Amazi-Girl, Jacob, Hank, Lucy
        NG: Sal, Agatha, Ethan, Stacy
        CG: Becky, Walky
        LN: Toedad, Carol, Jason
        TN: Amber
        CN: Faz
        NE: Mary, Ryan, Bro-heims
        CE: Blaine, Mike (barring last-minute heel-face turn)

        Hard calls: Ross (LN, or maybe LE), Carla (CN or CG), Ruth (was NE, now TN or NG), Clint (LN or LE), Chloe (not evil, not chaotic), Billie (TN or CN), Malaya (CN or CE), Dina (Confused-Good), Robin (was CE, MAYBE has changed to CN), Leslie (LG or NG), Joe (TN, or MAYBE NE), Danny (LG or LN, depending on how self absorbed he’s acting today), Ethan (TN or NG), Rachel (LG or LN), Jocelyne (some good), Mandy and Grace (CG: Chorus, Greek), Linda (LN or LE), Roz (non-evil), Sierra (some good), Keener Parents (some good), Siegel parents (LE or LN), Warner parents (some good), Richard (TN or NE), Sayid (some good), Alex (non-evil), Asher (non-lawful, non-good)

        Anyone else?

        • Reltzik
          Reltzik
          January 6, 2021 at 2:32 am | #

          Aaaand I listed Ross twice. Ignore me saying firmly he was LN, he’s a toss-up between LN and LE.

        • Hopeluminous
          Hopeluminous
          January 6, 2021 at 8:37 am | #

          Am I the only one thinking that Sarah is not lawful?
          I mean… she followed Joyce to a party with a baseball bat.

          • egg egg
            egg egg
            January 6, 2021 at 10:07 am | #

            I mean, plenty of Paladins walk around with swords all day… Sometimes you gotta be prepared to Lawfully Protect your friends from Harm.

            One could also say that she’s so Lawfully Good savvy that she’s willing to protect innocent Joyce from people who want to Break the Law. Just with the more timely approved Bat than a Sword.

          • Harvey Janus
            Harvey Janus
            January 6, 2021 at 10:15 am | #

            Unless you’re a paladin, you’re allowed some leeway in how you handle certain situations so long as your actions are primarily under your alignment.

      • Clif
        Clif
        January 6, 2021 at 5:25 pm | #

        https://xkcd.com/2408/ seems relevant.

    • Jane
      Jane
      January 6, 2021 at 1:06 am | #

      (Note: the following is written purely for the purpose of humor, and in no way reflects anything approaching the author’s true beliefs)

      Good-aligned? But all three characters are obviously evil!

      Dorothy wishes the join the ranks of the hated establishment, to force her vision of a “better world” into law, to shackle and enslave the populace so that they may “enjoy a better standard of living”. What else could that be but pure evil?

      Becky betrayed her benefactor by undermining her campaign, so that she’d be cast out and forced to live on the streets, just because she happened to be the antithesis of everything that Becky believed in, and really should have known better. Again, evil!

      And Joyce? Why, just look at how naive and innocent she is! And what else is naive and innocent? That’s right, babies. And as any parent knows, there is nothing more casually evil than babies. By obvious extension, she is clearly the most evil one of them all!

      I mean, they even follow the classic witch’s archetype – Dorothy, the wise crone, Becky, the worldly mother, and Joyce, the innocent maiden. The ages might not reflect that, but their personalities are obviously a deliberate reference for those who can see through their “good” facade!

      (Apologies in advance to those who have had to suffer through more sincerely frustrating alignment arguments.)

      • Miri
        Miri
        January 6, 2021 at 5:46 am | #

        My eldest was very upset when I tried to argue that my supervillain OC in her game where she was the superhero genuinely wanted to make the place and THAT was why I was trying to take over the world, and I saw HER as the villain for thwarting me… Apparently that sort of rationale is mean when your kid is 5 or 6 LOLOLOL (this is why I was the villain, isn’t it?)

        • temperaryobsessor
          temperaryobsessor
          January 6, 2021 at 10:33 am | #

          Here I thought television was teaching our kids better than that.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      January 6, 2021 at 8:14 am | #

      Joyce has a million rules about food touching, wouldn’t swear for the longest time even when people offered to pay her, and embraces the most puritan of sexual mores. Her one indiscretion with Jacob notwithstanding, she is so very very lawful.

  21. Theluxland
    Theluxland
    January 6, 2021 at 12:33 am | #

    ”Jesus Christ Joyce” is now in my forever vocabulary

  22. Blindness
    Blindness
    January 6, 2021 at 12:39 am | #

    Becky speaks for all of us who’ve had it done.

    It’s just a freaking puff of air that barely presses on you if at all- get over it!

    • Eclipsa
      Eclipsa
      January 6, 2021 at 1:30 am | #

      Yeah, and if you blink, they gotta do it again. It’s hard not to blink. It startles the crap out of you like the biscuit can does. She’s not used to it either.

      • Amber
        Amber
        January 6, 2021 at 2:17 am | #

        The biscuit can is genuinely startling, thank you.

      • Blindness
        Blindness
        January 6, 2021 at 4:42 am | #

        There’s being startled and there’s being overdramatic. She was startled the first time, now she’s just being over the top overdramatic. It’s ridiculously bad even for neurotic Joyce.

        • Sam
          Sam
          January 6, 2021 at 6:04 am | #

          Not everyone can cope with the same things you can easily. Some people have stated in the comment section that they get startled every single time too and someone made a comment that PTSD tends to make it easier to be startled (which Joyce may or may not have).

          Some people can get used to it, some people can’t, because you can’t control if you’re going to get startled or flinch and for someone neurotic like Joyce, the anticipation will be messing her up over and over and over again because it gives time for her anxiety to build up again each time, making her tense and more prone to being startled/flinching again.

          • Regalli
            Regalli
            January 6, 2021 at 11:28 am | #

            We haven’t seen things longterm because of the timescale, but I definitely wouldn’t be shocked if Joyce does have PTSD given she was showing short-term trauma responses. (The agoraphobia mentioned a few days ago, and being triggered by the hymn at church and the ‘Jesus died for us’ line.) On the one hand, the agoraphobia cleared up after her particular assaulter was stabbed within an inch of his life, but the Ross trauma was immediately compounded by the congregation echoing him in general so I doubt his death had the same relief factor (besides the sheer ‘literally watched him die’-ness. I wouldn’t be shocked if witnessing the stabbing would have had a slightly more conflicted psychological impact the way Dorothy did.)

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      January 6, 2021 at 10:19 am | #

      Ah yes, the old “This is easy for me, so you just need to get over it” argument. Never a good look.

      Lots of people have commented here about it still being hard for them – some to the point of not being able to do it.

  23. C.T Phipps
    C.T Phipps
    January 6, 2021 at 12:40 am | #

    Of course, as we always suspected, Dorothy is secretly evil. This is a place to secretly harness Joyce’s adorability to sell on the black market.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      January 6, 2021 at 1:27 am | #

      Why the black market? It’s legal for the… not… black… market? White market? Normal market? Transparent market?

      Also, why the secrecy? Adorableness has been openly harvested since at least the days of Shirley Temple.

      • King Daniel
        King Daniel
        January 6, 2021 at 2:18 am | #

        I think the actual term is “open market”.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      January 6, 2021 at 10:19 am | #

      Isn’t that basically Willis’s plan?

  24. Bagge
    Bagge
    January 6, 2021 at 12:48 am | #

    EVERYONE STAND BACK, I’M A LESBIAN!

    • PB
      PB
      January 6, 2021 at 3:42 am | #

      This is an excellent reinterpretation of “Move, I’m gay” and I approve.

  25. Krzysz
    Krzysz
    January 6, 2021 at 12:49 am | #

    Honestly, I prefer this machine over the instruments where they get right up against my eyeballs. All of my optometrists have hated me

  26. Boh No
    Boh No
    January 6, 2021 at 1:00 am | #

    Becky it BREATHES on your EYEBALLS, any amount is excruciating and unpleasant >_>’

  27. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    January 6, 2021 at 1:25 am | #

    Quit downplaying how awful it is, Becky. That machine really blows.

    • Eclipsa
      Eclipsa
      January 6, 2021 at 1:49 am | #

      I see what you did there.

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      January 6, 2021 at 2:18 am | #

      Are you just winding up?

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        January 6, 2021 at 2:37 am | #

        Don’t need to wind up. Puns are a breeze.

        • Hopeluminous
          Hopeluminous
          January 6, 2021 at 11:27 am | #

          Let’s storm the comments with puns!

    • SuperZero
      SuperZero
      January 6, 2021 at 2:18 am | #

      It’s definitely the worst machine they have. What did she think it was that might be worse than that?

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        January 6, 2021 at 2:36 am | #

        The machine that sticks needles in your eyes.

        • Lone Duck
          Lone Duck
          January 6, 2021 at 4:07 am | #

          The machine that sticks needles in your eye, while blowing air in your eyes, while cutting onions, and playing the movie Grave of the Fireflies, all Clockwork Orange style where you can’t blink?

          • Deanatay
            Deanatay
            January 6, 2021 at 11:26 am | #

            And plays Beethoven. Not my Ludwig Van!

  28. BenRG
    BenRG
    January 6, 2021 at 2:15 am | #

    I don’t think that Dorothy could have done more to build bridges with Becky than to assure her that she’s willing to share Joyce with her. That was Becky’s fear after all: That she was losing Joyce to Dorothy.

    Meanwhile, Becky is learning just how neurotic and crippled by anxiety Joyce really is at the moment.

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      January 6, 2021 at 11:34 am | #

      I mean, she has been for some time, and this is as much a reflex thing as anything (I know it’s at most unpleasant but keeping your eye open for it all is tricky,) but yeah I don’t think Becky had quite recognized how debilitating Joyce’s anxieties were getting. She was this terrified of an eye exam (which I think Becky is starting to recognize is necessary, especially with Dorothy’s point about seeing people with the crowds) that is, in fact, completely benign because it’s a potential change and Joyce Cannot Handle anymore right now, whatsoever.

  29. Nenja
    Nenja
    January 6, 2021 at 2:22 am | #

    This strip made me happy.

  30. Keulen
    Keulen
    January 6, 2021 at 2:45 am | #

    Motherfudger just sounds way more difficult to say than using the actual swear word to me.

    • CJ
      CJ
      January 6, 2021 at 3:38 am | #

      You have to go the extra mile…

  31. SuperZero
    SuperZero
    January 6, 2021 at 2:46 am | #

    Dorothy, does Becky even play DnD?

    • Rainhat
      Rainhat
      January 6, 2021 at 4:37 am | #

      I’m surprised Dorothy knows the alignments to refer to them

      • Sam
        Sam
        January 6, 2021 at 5:53 am | #

        I have never played DnD but *I* have heard of the alignments. This isn’t as super rare knowledge as it used to be.

      • Hopeluminous
        Hopeluminous
        January 6, 2021 at 11:40 am | #

        They’re in all kinds of me message I’m sure Dorothy knows a few.

        • Hopeluminous
          Hopeluminous
          January 6, 2021 at 11:42 am | #

          *memes
          Dann you autocorrect.

      • UnfrozenNeanderthal
        UnfrozenNeanderthal
        January 6, 2021 at 12:16 pm | #

        Why? The alignment system is super common knowledge these days

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      January 6, 2021 at 8:51 am | #

      Maybe that’s what she was doing all those nights she snuck out.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      January 6, 2021 at 9:41 am | #

      That’s against her religion.

      https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-8/02-this-is-the-way-that-we-love/hobble/

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        January 6, 2021 at 9:41 am | #

        Or… the religion her daddy wanted her to follow.

        So, yes, She has most definately played it at this point.

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          January 6, 2021 at 1:26 pm | #

          Gah, now I want a series of strips where they just play D&D, [i]Community[/i] style.

          • Yumi
            Yumi
            January 6, 2021 at 1:27 pm | #

            I REFUSE to read the note right below the comment field that reminds you how to use tags in this comment section.

            • Bagge
              Bagge
              January 6, 2021 at 10:21 pm | #

              Lol

    • Zee
      Zee
      January 6, 2021 at 11:37 am | #

      I’m sorry do you know how many viral alignment memes there are? I didn’t even know the alignments were a dnd thing for a while

      • Heather
        Heather
        January 6, 2021 at 12:24 pm | #

        Yep, same. Also I think even someone unsullied by the internet (which we know Becky isn’t anyway) could fill in the blanks easily that it’s probably something to do with generally having good intentions and…well being chaotic/ignoring rules sometimes.

  32. Geneseepaw
    Geneseepaw
    January 6, 2021 at 3:05 am | #

    I’m So pleased, Willis did such a good job with the smile on Joyce’s face. That is now in my Canon as the Joy of Knowing True Friendship. If Dina ever smiles at Becky like that, I’d bet Becky would sew their tops together at the shoulders, to be inseparable.

  33. Queezle
    Queezle
    January 6, 2021 at 3:13 am | #

    Panel two and three make me so happy. I am proud of Becky.

  34. drs
    drs
    January 6, 2021 at 3:42 am | #

    Has Becky been off the reservation enough to know where “chaotic good” comes from?

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      January 6, 2021 at 4:48 am | #

      She doesn’t have to; she only has to be smart enough to get the gist of it.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      January 6, 2021 at 8:50 am | #

      It’s pretty self-explanatory.

      (Is there a fundie-approved D20 game?)

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      January 6, 2021 at 11:05 am | #

      Would you consider not using that phrase?
      https://indiancountrytoday.com/archive/off-the-reservation-a-teachable-moment-nW1d7U0JRkOszhtg8N1V1A

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        January 6, 2021 at 2:36 pm | #

        Yay, learning!

  35. Lone Duck
    Lone Duck
    January 6, 2021 at 4:04 am | #

    Honestly, I’m surprised that Becky is willing to ‘take the Lord’s name in vain’, as commonly considered by American churches. (Using God or Jesus as an exclamation of emotion in a non-spiritual situation.)
    Even if Becky is unfamiliar with DnD, she’s very familiar with memes. It was literally her job.

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      January 6, 2021 at 4:49 am | #

      Personally, asking ‘the Boss’ for help in dealing with Joyce’s crippling levels of anxiety is likely to be considered not ‘in vain’.

  36. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    January 6, 2021 at 7:27 am | #

    “You handle that, I need to keep working”

  37. Kim
    Kim
    January 6, 2021 at 7:45 am | #

    Still no name for the doctor?

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      January 6, 2021 at 8:31 am | #

      She might come back if she has a return appointment later. I also doubt that she’s a doctor, just an ‘optical technician’.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        January 6, 2021 at 8:48 am | #

        She’s most likely an optometrist, because she’s performing an eye exam and can prescribe corrective lenses.

        Opticians are not doctors, but they’re trained to measure the face and fit lenses and frames. They’re like the dental technicians of eye stuff.

        Ophthalmologists are medical doctors who specialize in and can perform surgery on the eyes, in addition to what an optometrist can do. It’s a medical specialty, like dental surgery or osteology.

        (Headcanon still says her name is Dr. Eileen Seymour, OD.)

      • hof1991
        hof1991
        January 6, 2021 at 10:02 am | #

        The doctor does the eye exam, the tech runs you through the machines beforehand.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          January 6, 2021 at 2:54 pm | #

          Really? My optometrist does the whole exam beginning to end, and the optician helps with frames and does the measurements.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      January 6, 2021 at 11:37 am | #

      Willis hasn’t tagged her, yet.

      But, Becky just did – she’s clearly Dr. Labcoat.

      Willis will probably retro-tag her at some point, like he does.

      • Clif
        Clif
        January 6, 2021 at 4:56 pm | #

        Dr. Labcoat it is.

    • thumb
      thumb
      January 6, 2021 at 2:07 pm | #

      Doctor? Who?

  38. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    January 6, 2021 at 9:36 am | #

    Even Becky can’t believe it. JOYCE!!!!

  39. Bagge
    Bagge
    January 6, 2021 at 9:42 am | #

    Joyce’s smile as Becky’s coming for the rescue in the last panel is wonderful

    • Jhon
      Jhon
      January 6, 2021 at 1:39 pm | #

      A puff of air, a burst of Becky.

  40. jdorr
    jdorr
    January 6, 2021 at 10:20 am | #

    Based on other comments the air puff device seems pretty common but despite going to an optometrist for almost 2 decades i don’t recall ever getting air puffed at my eye.

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      January 6, 2021 at 11:30 am | #

      It’s a glaucoma test, but apparently not necessarily standard – or at least, other options are still being used frequently enough. So if you don’t have a family history of glaucoma and/or your optometrist uses a different test, it’s totally possible.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      January 6, 2021 at 8:00 pm | #

      Then you probably got the other glaucoma check at some point, where they anesthetize your eye and press a probe onto your cornea to measure intraocular pressure.

      • jdorr
        jdorr
        January 7, 2021 at 10:32 am | #

        My eye doctor uses something that is likely the probe you mentioned to measure eye pressure during most of my check ups

  41. Kaz
    Kaz
    January 6, 2021 at 12:08 pm | #

    lol I love the fact even Becky’s like “Are you kidding me? It’s just that?”

  42. Wakeangel2001
    Wakeangel2001
    January 6, 2021 at 1:15 pm | #

    I love how she is all ready to die on this hill when she see’s what Joyce is actually going through and then it’s all “come on, REALLY? I totally wasted my righteous indignation…”

  43. S.R.
    S.R.
    January 6, 2021 at 8:34 pm | #

    Is it not possible for someone to physically hold their own eye open, with their fingers, for this test? Seems like it would be a simple enough solution. Just checked right now- one fingertip on each eyelid, and use that to slide the eyelids further open than normal. Not uncomfortable on its own, my fingers aren’t directly on my eyeball or on the underside of the eyelid, and I can’t blink. Won’t make the air less unpleasant, but you can’t blink on it that way.

    • Bathymetheus
      Bathymetheus
      January 6, 2021 at 10:48 pm | #

      The purpose of this test is to measure the pressure inside the eye (by measuring how much the surface of the eye deflects in response to the puff). Holding your eyelids like that is likely to apply pressure to the eye, thus giving a false reading.

      • Bathymetheus
        Bathymetheus
        January 6, 2021 at 10:50 pm | #

        Hmm. I don’t want to be crime-associated. Lets try a little gravatar roulette.

        • Bathymetheus
          Bathymetheus
          January 6, 2021 at 10:50 pm | #

          Much better!

  44. Sombrero
    Sombrero
    January 7, 2021 at 7:00 am | #

    No tag for Labcoat?

  45. Aaron DaMommio
    Aaron DaMommio
    January 7, 2021 at 12:12 pm | #

    Wow, in this episode and the next day’s, both Dorothy and Becky really shine.

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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
still thinking of that time jerry seinfeld guest starred in the season 2 premiere of 30 rock just so he could stare directly into the camera and plug Bee Movie
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damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatarDavid M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
the name's rain abyss rain
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From The Archives: I Don’t Vaccinate My Child Because It’s My Right To Decide What Eliminated Diseases Come Roaring Back theonion.com/i-don-t...
I Don’t Vaccinate My Child Because It’s My Right To Decide What Eliminated Diseases Come Roaring Back
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
was working in the yard when the pizza delivery guy pulled up. handed me the pizzas, joked about whether i actually lived there or was trying to scam free pizza. laughed carried the pizza up to the door, i'd been locked out of my own house, so i stood there awkwardly as the delivery guy stared
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