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Happiest

by David M Willis on July 31, 2021 at 12:01 am
  • 05 – As Long As It's Free
└ Tags: amber, joe, joyce

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    July 31, 2021 at 12:05 am | #

    I still foam at the mouth over screencaps, which are somehow ENORMOUS when done from a phone and e-mailed, and the phone never tells you said screencap is like 2MB and the e-mail never tells you there’s a 500MB quota bc something something I.T. said

    actually Joe, Joyce cares very much about food not touching, also

    also Joyce DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG

    • Demoted Oblivious
      Demoted Oblivious
      July 31, 2021 at 12:10 am | #

      It’s ok Joe. You’re not the only one thinking about it now.

      • Clif
        Clif
        July 31, 2021 at 12:25 am | #

        Can we focus on what’s important? Amber prefers laptops to cellphones. As do all right thinking people.

        • Demoted Oblivious
          Demoted Oblivious
          July 31, 2021 at 1:00 am | #

          Whose lap top are we talking about here? Because there are a great many laps that I’m rather meh over, but I could really get into others…

        • Felix
          Felix
          August 1, 2021 at 6:35 pm | #

          Amen. But my desktop is still my favorite.

    • Heather
      Heather
      July 31, 2021 at 12:23 am | #

      Joyce cares about things being kept in their easily identified if restrictive and boring boxes. She sometimes gets upset when things are more complicated than that: food, people.
      Relationships?

    • Wraithy2773
      Wraithy2773
      July 31, 2021 at 2:17 am | #

      Amber is a monster for using her goddamn phone for screencaps. There’s a printscreen button! There’s also a Snip tool default on Windows that lets you crop out and copy a portion of your screen! It is 500x more convenient than using your phone for that nonsense!

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        July 31, 2021 at 2:21 am | #

        Bro, I think you might not understand what taking screencaps on your phone means…

        • Wagstaff
          Wagstaff
          July 31, 2021 at 2:38 am | #

          Hey, has anyone seen Milu? I don’t think she’s been here for weeks. Sure hope they’re OK…

          • Yumi
            Yumi
            July 31, 2021 at 2:41 am | #

            No idea why this is a reply to my comment but.

            Wasn’t Milu talking about going off somewhere for work? And WiFi would be a 30 minute (not 30 feet) walk away.

          • Wagstaff
            Wagstaff
            July 31, 2021 at 2:41 am | #

            *they’ve been here for weeks.

            DAMN IT! DAMN IT! DAMN IT!

            • Yumi
              Yumi
              July 31, 2021 at 2:56 am | #

              It can definitely be frustrating to get someone’s pronouns wrong, but usually a simple correction is enough. People have varying thoughts on even including a “sorry”– as a they/them, I personally appreciate a quick “sorry” along with the correction, but not one that there’s any expectation I’d reply to. Now, the “DAMN IT!”s here? That would make me uncomfortable, and I think sort of does here even just witnessing it.

              When a self-correction is accompanied by a berating of self, it can put it on the person who was mis-pronouned to be like, “It’s okay.” or “Don’t worry about it.” or something, and that’s really not fair. That’s why some people don’t even like a “sorry” thrown in.

              • Wagstaff
                Wagstaff
                July 31, 2021 at 3:08 am | #

                Thanks for sharing. But I do not intend those dammits implicate anyone as much as I intend them to reflect my struggle against widespread binary indoctrination, against indoctrination of all kinds, really.

                It’s just so frustrating and even agonizing to know that your brain is constantly lying to you.

                • Yumi
                  Yumi
                  July 31, 2021 at 3:12 am | #

                  Fair enough, but you know what they say about intentions. And really even with those intentions…the point stands.

                • Wagstaff
                  Wagstaff
                  July 31, 2021 at 3:19 am | #

                  Thanks for understanding. There can be any number of reasons behind people’s actions and speeches that are seemingly out of line. In fact, one of the most important ways we are able to distinguish actual meanness from apparent meanness is giving people the opportunity to explain themselves.

                  Anyway, I miss Milu, and I hope they come back soon!

                • Yumi
                  Yumi
                  July 31, 2021 at 3:20 am | #

                  Oh, I still think it was out of line, though I never thought it was mean.

                • Wagstaff
                  Wagstaff
                  July 31, 2021 at 3:23 am | #

                  Woops. I meant “seemingly ill-intended”.

                • Yumi
                  Yumi
                  July 31, 2021 at 3:26 am | #

                  Oh, well, I never thought it was ill-intended.

        • GUIGUI
          GUIGUI
          July 31, 2021 at 3:51 am | #

          I know for a fact that I once tried to take a screencap of an overlayed translation with the goolge translation tool and it simply did not allowed that. I had to take a picture of the phone with an other phone. I would never have to deal with that kind of foolery on my computer.

          • Ana Chronistic
            Ana Chronistic
            August 1, 2021 at 6:26 am | #

            Phones are one thing, I have these bozos taking photos of their LAPTOPS, of normal ass WEBPAGES

            • Kryss LaBryn
              Kryss LaBryn
              August 1, 2021 at 9:54 pm | #

              One of my husband’s relatives “sent” us a little questionnaire for a family calendar they were putting together.

              They very carefully typed up all the questions, printed them out, TOOK A PHOTO, and emailed it to us as a jpeg.

              It was upside down. *facepalm*

              I did not bother with it.

              • Ana Chronistic
                Ana Chronistic
                August 2, 2021 at 11:05 am | #

                *froth*

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        July 31, 2021 at 4:32 am | #

        I take photos of screens with my phone all the time. Sometimes it’s the only way to capture an error message on an airgapped system.

        (Seriously my work phone’s about 80% full of error message and URL screen photos.)

        • Ana Chronistic
          Ana Chronistic
          August 1, 2021 at 6:27 am | #

          Fine but this is of websites!! Which can be done on a personal computer!!! For my personal grievance 😫

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        July 31, 2021 at 5:24 am | #

        Yahbut does she record vertical video?

        • JBento
          JBento
          July 31, 2021 at 7:35 am | #

          She, in fact, does not.

          https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-10/04-is-a-song-forever/conceded/

  2. plasticwrap
    plasticwrap
    July 31, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

    Does our little fun die have an oral fixation?? Hahahahaha

    • butts
      butts
      July 31, 2021 at 12:11 am | #

      yeah, an Oral Roberts fixation

      • BarerMender
        BarerMender
        July 31, 2021 at 12:30 am | #

        Ewww!

        • Demoted Oblivious
          Demoted Oblivious
          July 31, 2021 at 9:37 am | #

          Oral Roberts is a university!? Who in the hell thought that was a good name for a school?

          • Yumi
            Yumi
            July 31, 2021 at 9:43 am | #

            Presumably, Oral Roberts.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      July 31, 2021 at 12:11 am | #

      Joyce Brown, Future Pornlord

      • Wagstaff
        Wagstaff
        July 31, 2021 at 12:16 am | #

        She might just have to become a Porn Demigod first.

      • Moonie
        Moonie
        July 31, 2021 at 4:05 pm | #

        She did draw on all those whiteboards.

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      July 31, 2021 at 12:14 am | #

      I wonder if she has actually put any thought into her saying “cocksucking” or not. Does she realize what that is and actually thought about it? Or is she just parroting stuff she has heard?

      • Wagstaff
        Wagstaff
        July 31, 2021 at 12:17 am | #

        I wonder what’s worse to her: the meal she delivered to Sarah or cocksucking.

        • Kyrik Michalowski
          Kyrik Michalowski
          July 31, 2021 at 12:20 am | #

          Give her time, she might learn to enjoy them both. :V

        • Deanatay
          Deanatay
          July 31, 2021 at 10:32 am | #

          HAS she delivered it, though? She’s still carrying it here…

      • Lanie
        Lanie
        July 31, 2021 at 12:34 am | #

        I mean, it doesn’t take much imagination to guess what cocksucking means if you know what cock means, so the most important question is really if Joyce has put to memory the meaning of the word cock.

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          July 31, 2021 at 1:56 am | #

          A friend of mine didn’t learn the word “dick” until freshman year of college when she heard her roommate say it, and she wasn’t even raised in a religious household or otherwise denied access to, like, media or other kids. But she did know the word “cock,” and in the conversation where she told me about learning “dick,” argued that there didn’t need to be more than one slang term for a penis.

          • Lanie
            Lanie
            July 31, 2021 at 4:23 am | #

            Assuming they were American, I am impressed they managed to never stumble across the word, especially in high school.

            • Yumi
              Yumi
              July 31, 2021 at 4:28 am | #

              Yup, she’s American. We went to the same high school and college, and when she was telling me this the the college dining hall, I was like, “I have failed to properly prepare you for the many words you will encounter.”

              • Miri
                Miri
                July 31, 2021 at 5:35 am | #

                I like to think you then calmly started reciting a very long list of words. Then told her that if you did the same for female genitalia you might well be asked to leave since the male words tend to be viewed as puerile/silly/relatively mild insults, whereas the female ones are often Serious Insults. Because of that thing where women are evil temptresses using our vile wiles and our evil succubus pleasure zones to destroy humanity one man at a time (y’know, unless we’re chaste property – virgin daughters or meekly submissive wives who are functionally incubators for The Heir, also child-rearers and house-keepers. Maybe wage supplementers depending on social status… But not actual people, and not allowed pleasure. HISTORICALLY, of course… 🙄)

                • Geneseepaws
                  Geneseepaws
                  July 31, 2021 at 7:27 am | #

                  Thank you.
                  I’m sorry you had to say it.
                  It winds me up that you said it, that you needed to, and that it is still spot on, and that it is so necessary that you continue to say it. And that there are still bongos and politicians out there who haven’t processed it.
                  So thank you for saying it again.
                  Arrrrggggh, it winds me up it does.
                  Dear men, women are not out to get you, they are not superior to you, you do not need to fear them. But by all that is here, above, and below, they are your full equals. Get it! Get with it! And grow up!

          • Segnosaur
            Segnosaur
            July 31, 2021 at 10:21 am | #

            Its not surprising she never heard the word “dick” before… Most people just say “detective”.

            What?

      • fridge_logic
        fridge_logic
        July 31, 2021 at 12:41 am | #

        She’s been reading Amber’s slashfic, she could know of/ have fantasized about literally any sexual act by now.

      • Bicycle Bill
        Bicycle Bill
        July 31, 2021 at 1:39 am | #

        Like George Carlin said about ‘cocksucking’ (and the other four-syllable one we all know) in his “Seven Dirty Words” routine —
        “Those are… those are heavy-weight words. There’s a lot going on there, man! Besides the literal translation and the emotional feeling. They’re just busy words.”

  3. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    July 31, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

    It’s like I’m looking into a mirror

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      July 31, 2021 at 12:21 am | #

      Anyway, as requested by RacingTurtle and mrnoidea… called it.

      • RassilonTDavros
        RassilonTDavros
        July 31, 2021 at 12:22 am | #

        Shoot, link doesn’t work. Hang on… called it?

        • Clif
          Clif
          July 31, 2021 at 12:29 am | #

          Amber is not continuing with asking them to leave. She is now considering more important matters.

          • Demoted Oblivious
            Demoted Oblivious
            July 31, 2021 at 9:45 am | #

            To be fair, they just asked R.T.D. to remember the comment from yesterday. Also, while Amber may not be using the best word choices, an animal behaviorist might still read her performance as dismissive. She’s seemingly trying to ignore JJ and is actively creating a dialogue about an inane topic completely tangential to why J or J approached her. Which would likely read as discouraging to anyone around Amber being remotely aware of her feelings. (I’m calling you both out here JJ)

  4. Proto_Eevee
    Proto_Eevee
    July 31, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

    Bro she said cocksucking! Talk about character development…

    • Clif
      Clif
      July 31, 2021 at 12:30 am | #

      Who knew developing your character could be so easy.

    • Bicycle Bill
      Bicycle Bill
      July 31, 2021 at 1:46 am | #

      But her ‘F-bomb count’ is still stuck at zero.

      • Bicycle Bill
        Bicycle Bill
        July 31, 2021 at 1:48 am | #

        try that again … F-bomb count

        • Wagstaff
          Wagstaff
          July 31, 2021 at 2:49 am | #

          Looks like Billie IS Top of the Class in SOMETHING after all.

        • Demoted Oblivious
          Demoted Oblivious
          July 31, 2021 at 9:53 am | #

          Cool. It’s a pity Joyce isn’t on there with a documented ‘0’ though. It seems like she would be a decent baseline for the rest. (and maybe some nonverbal one-off character). Also, I’m guessing this is maintained manually, unless there’s a published script with each comic (like schlock did) that I’ve missed all these years. (honestly I don’t know why more comics /don’t/ include text only scripts. It would help both fans AND authors search the comic, and increase accessibility for low/no vision readers.

          • John
            John
            August 1, 2021 at 11:12 pm | #

            Joyce is actually in there, but the code that generates the bars doesn’t display a bar for a character until they have at least one F-bomb attributed to them. But Joyce has an assigned color (the orange of Walkyverse-Joyce’s customary T-shirt), and I keep her appearance count updated, which I don’t bother doing for the other characters that don’t have an F-bomb to their name.

            • Demoted Oblivious
              Demoted Oblivious
              August 3, 2021 at 12:40 am | #

              Thanks for the follow-up. Your job would probably be way easier with an available text script. Ah well.

  5. Nono
    Nono
    July 31, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

    C’mon Joyce, if Joe was that shallow why were you texting him as a confidante?

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      July 31, 2021 at 12:10 am | #

      She doesn’t need to be in the right to be angry and confrontational with Joe. She can do that when she’s wrong too.

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      July 31, 2021 at 12:17 am | #

      Joe is shallow because Joyce relied on him for something of enormous importance to her, and Joe not only helped to the best of his abilities but did so with zero understood contradiction of his role as Manly No Feels Sex Bro, and then when Joyce came back and assumed that pulling some humanity out of Joe meant he was actually good all along only for Joe to stonewall any attempts at emotionally engaging with her until she came clean about Ryan and Joe’s contributing to that miasma, something that Joe has at least nominally walked back on, that’s why Joyce thinks he’s shallow.

      • Meagan
        Meagan
        July 31, 2021 at 2:20 am | #

        Wait when did Joyce tell Joe about what happened with Ryan?

        • Rabid Rabbit
          Rabid Rabbit
          July 31, 2021 at 2:29 am | #

          https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/04-the-do-list/object/

  6. King Daniel
    King Daniel
    July 31, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

    I see Joe and Joyce are proceeding to have a deeply personal conversation, right here.

  7. Yumi
    Yumi
    July 31, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

    No, no, I think it’s important that Joyce say “cocksucking.”

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      July 31, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

      Yeah. This. This is a surprise. Not sure if I like it yet.

  8. Wagstaff
    Wagstaff
    July 31, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

    *plays “Filthy Gorgeous” by Scissor Sisters on Voxola PR-76*

    • Stephen Bierce
      Stephen Bierce
      July 31, 2021 at 12:19 am | #

      Better than “Freeze Frame” by the J. Geils Band.

  9. ian livs
    ian livs
    July 31, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

    Damn. Y’know, I’m years out of my fundie phase, but I still couldn’t say that so loudly without stuttering. lol

  10. MrSmith
    MrSmith
    July 31, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

    I don’t normally talk about how cute things are because, to me, cute gets overused but damn Joe and Joyce are being particularly cute at the moment

  11. jeffepp
    jeffepp
    July 31, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

    But you did
    But you did
    But you did
    And, I thank you

    • NickG
      NickG
      July 31, 2021 at 12:51 pm | #

      RIP Dusty.

  12. Linda
    Linda
    July 31, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

    Dumbing of Age Book 10: SEX SEX SEXY COCKSUCKING SEXY SEX

    • Tan
      Tan
      July 31, 2021 at 12:26 am | #

      11, but otherwise you stole my post

      • Clif
        Clif
        July 31, 2021 at 12:35 am | #

        DOA 11: It’s Easier to Type On My Laptop.

        Particularly if the phone keeps getting taken over by pop-up video ads.

  13. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    July 31, 2021 at 12:09 am | #

    I did not expect that out of Joyce, but here we are.

    Also Amber’s message going on the background is a little sad. I feel the same way but I recognize that it is an issue.

    Also why the hell did you two go to Amber for advice and then ignore her while she is talking?

    • Clif
      Clif
      July 31, 2021 at 12:37 am | #

      Particularly when she’s talking about how to be happy.

      • justin8448
        justin8448
        July 31, 2021 at 1:06 pm | #

        Ooof. That hits kind of hard.

  14. Thag Simmons
    Thag Simmons
    July 31, 2021 at 12:09 am | #

    New Joyce Swears just dropped

    • Demoted Oblivious
      Demoted Oblivious
      July 31, 2021 at 12:11 am | #

      Cocks are male birds, and yeah, their attitudes can be pretty sucky.

      • Wagstaff
        Wagstaff
        July 31, 2021 at 12:14 am | #

        Joyce seems like the kind to love domestic animals of all kinds, including chickens.

        I’m sure she’s just dying to play with a cock!

        • Demoted Oblivious
          Demoted Oblivious
          July 31, 2021 at 1:02 am | #

          Are you implying that she might butcher her own poultry, choke-the-chicken, as it were?

      • BarerMender
        BarerMender
        July 31, 2021 at 12:35 am | #

        Yes, male birds. But the erect penis twitches much like a bird walking, so the transfer of the concept.

        • Demoted Oblivious
          Demoted Oblivious
          July 31, 2021 at 9:59 am | #

          When have you seen an erect penis WALKING?

          Also, as the penis twitches, the eye flails all over the place above the fixed base. When a bird walks (I’m imagining pigeons here, predators don’t have a notably weird bird-walk) their eyes remain stationary until the head snaps forward to a new static position, all of which occurs above a moving base.

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      July 31, 2021 at 12:26 am | #

      Personally, I kinda want Joyce’s first f-bomb to be directed at Carol.

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        July 31, 2021 at 3:15 am | #

        That’d be real fucking satisfying.

      • Geneseepaws
        Geneseepaws
        July 31, 2021 at 7:39 am | #

        Or Mary. Sure enough, Carol, but Mary is so much more convenient to the cause.

      • Demoted Oblivious
        Demoted Oblivious
        July 31, 2021 at 10:08 am | #

        Y’all aren’t wrong. But there comes a point for some people, that it simply does not matter what you say to them. They simply don’t register the meaning of the words coming out of your mouth, and remain permanently fixated on an idea in their head. Verbal confrontations, while remaining necessary for the speaker to establish boundaries, are often less than satisfying because you know the recipient can’t actually hear you.

  15. Jonah Sanville
    Jonah Sanville
    July 31, 2021 at 12:09 am | #

    at least the cocksucking is sexy

    • Wizard
      Wizard
      July 31, 2021 at 12:45 am | #

      If it isn’t, you must be doing something wrong.

      • Some Guy
        Some Guy
        July 31, 2021 at 12:06 pm | #

        “Hey, watch the teeth Babe!”

  16. Tandel
    Tandel
    July 31, 2021 at 12:10 am | #

    Little disappointed Cocksucking isn’t the title for the day’s strip.

    Joe actually looks… disappointed? Dismayed? that she said it. Maybe it’s just shock.

    • Linda
      Linda
      July 31, 2021 at 11:01 am | #

      To me it seems more like “you said it and now I’m thinking about it”.

      • Steelbright
        Steelbright
        July 31, 2021 at 10:00 pm | #

        Exaaaactly.

  17. BBCC
    BBCC
    July 31, 2021 at 12:10 am | #

    Yeah, I’d ignore the hell out of this too if I were Amber, but since I’m not, it’s super funny.

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      July 31, 2021 at 12:12 am | #

      Amber needs to invest in a human repelling device and use it to druve these 2 into the hallway. There they can argue until they are blue in the face

      • Clif
        Clif
        July 31, 2021 at 1:14 am | #

        Walky’s busy elsewhere.

      • Some Guy
        Some Guy
        July 31, 2021 at 12:02 pm | #

        No, Amber needs to invest in a fucking therapist and a giant bottle of gabapentin.

        • Wagstaff
          Wagstaff
          July 31, 2021 at 1:24 pm | #

          I’d be careful with that last one. Just because that stuff’s legal, that doesn’t mean it can’t fuck you up.

          • Some Guy
            Some Guy
            August 1, 2021 at 12:52 pm | #

            It’s a comic strip.

            • Wagstaff
              Wagstaff
              August 1, 2021 at 9:51 pm | #

              A comic strip where somebody almost died by taking antidepressants with alcohol.

    • Nono
      Nono
      July 31, 2021 at 12:17 am | #

      Who cares less about other people’s drama, Amber or Sarah?

      • Jamie
        Jamie
        July 31, 2021 at 3:17 am | #

        Amber, hands-down. How is this even a contest.

  18. tbf
    tbf
    July 31, 2021 at 12:10 am | #

    Amber should write a utility to automatically save the contents of Print Screen into a PNG file.

  19. Kravis
    Kravis
    July 31, 2021 at 12:11 am | #

    Fuck, fuck, fuck
    Mother, motherfuck
    Mother, motherfuck-fuck
    Motherfuck, motherfuck
    Noinch, noinch, noinch

  20. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    July 31, 2021 at 12:11 am | #

    I am glad I wasn’t drinking anything when I read this.

  21. Grimey
    Grimey
    July 31, 2021 at 12:14 am | #

    C’mon. A “I CARE ABOUT YOU!”/“I CARE ABOUT YOU TOO!” exchange.

    C’mon.

  22. Diane
    Diane
    July 31, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

    And soon, Amber will just watch their conversation devolve into “Now….Kiss”

  23. Formedras
    Formedras
    July 31, 2021 at 12:16 am | #

    Screenshots. One key on PC or hold two buttons on phone? PC, easy.
    If you need to crop, then maybe phone has an advantage.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      July 31, 2021 at 4:27 am | #

      Print Screen leaves a bitmap on the clipboard though, you still have to open another application, paste, and save.

      Snipping Tool is great, but you need to run it.

      Macs had a three-key shortcut to instantly dump the whole screen to a MacPaint or PICT file thirty years ago! Come on, Microsoft, get it together!

      • Geneseepaws
        Geneseepaws
        July 31, 2021 at 7:42 am | #

        This. So very, very, very much this.

      • Demoted Oblivious
        Demoted Oblivious
        July 31, 2021 at 10:12 am | #

        I’m no apple fan-boy (penguin power), but props also to them for figuring out their core UI design 40 years ago and commiting to it.

      • TheLurkerAbove
        TheLurkerAbove
        July 31, 2021 at 12:14 pm | #

        Win+Shift+S to invoke Snipping Tool immediately.

        Win+PrintScreen to save the entire screen to your user/pictures/screenshots folder.

        This does require Windows 10.

      • Jenny Islander
        Jenny Islander
        July 31, 2021 at 5:38 pm | #

        In Firefox I just right click anywhere on the screen, choose Take Screenshot, click’n’drag to create the shot, then click either Copy or Download. Easy peasy.

      • RowenMorland
        RowenMorland
        July 31, 2021 at 5:59 pm | #

        I think Windows has it default set to put your screenshots up onto One Drive so if you haven’t turned that off then it is just the one button.

  24. BlackScarabFilmZ
    BlackScarabFilmZ
    July 31, 2021 at 12:19 am | #

    Yeah, but sometimes your phone can’t take screenshots of certain apps, so a computer is better unless you have to futz with the hardware acceleration settings so you can take a screenshot of Netflix.

    • woobie
      woobie
      July 31, 2021 at 1:44 am | #

      Then you need a phone from somewhere else.

  25. Chris
    Chris
    July 31, 2021 at 12:20 am | #

    Is Amber deliberately ignoring the conversation behind her, or is she genuinely not noticing it?

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      July 31, 2021 at 2:06 am | #

      I think that it is a case of her talking about her problems and everyone else ignoring her because their own problems are coincidentally reaching critical mass at the same time!

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      July 31, 2021 at 4:43 am | #

      I thought at first Amber was just trying to answer their questions from yesterday’s strip and they’re ignoring her because they’re too busy arguing. But now I’m not so sure.

  26. William Leonard Reese Jr.
    William Leonard Reese Jr.
    July 31, 2021 at 12:28 am | #

    Joyce: Since when have *you* have character Development?!

    Joe: Since when have you have *emotional* development?!

    Amber: *Being a hard ass Mood.*

    Joe and Joyce is a dynamic that never ceases to amuse me. It’s some of the best of this entire strip.

  27. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    July 31, 2021 at 12:33 am | #

    Fun Fact! My laptop keyboard has like…a handful of keys that just don’t work cuz I kept it in the bathroom when I showered. (Yeah I brought it in to play music. I didn’t know the steam would damage it!) so now I prefer using my phone to my laptop. Though my desktop is the best of both worlds.

    • Demoted Oblivious
      Demoted Oblivious
      July 31, 2021 at 1:05 am | #

      On many models replacing a keyboard is actually remarkably straight forward. It may be worth checking your specs and the cost of a replacement.

    • Bicycle Bill
      Bicycle Bill
      July 31, 2021 at 2:09 am | #

      If you head for your closest Goodwill or other thrift/resale shop, you can probably find a second-hand USB plug-in keyboard for around five bucks. Stick it into one of your laptop’s USB ports and you’re good to go.

  28. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    July 31, 2021 at 12:34 am | #

    Anyone else finding this kinda attractive or just me?

    • Wagstaff
      Wagstaff
      July 31, 2021 at 12:40 am | #

      Attractive, kinda. Elated, definitely!

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      July 31, 2021 at 4:46 am | #

      Yeah, I’m enjoying this. Joe and Joyce arguing like this has me shipping them even more than I already was. And I like that Amber just keep talking about her phone and laptop while that’s going on.

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      July 31, 2021 at 6:44 am | #

      Oh, you’re by no means alone in that department.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      July 31, 2021 at 10:36 am | #

      AND THEN THEY ALL FU-MMPHG!

      *stuffs Yelling Bird into canister, sticks in pneumatic tube labelled “Madagascar”*

      • Demoted Oblivious
        Demoted Oblivious
        July 31, 2021 at 3:30 pm | #

        I miss yelling-bird and sweet-tits. Was also really hoping pint-size would remain in his anthro body, but I understand that Jeph wants to go somewhere with that.

        • misanthropope
          misanthropope
          July 31, 2021 at 5:07 pm | #

          pintsize as winslow’s evil twin creeps me the fuck out.

    • zee
      zee
      July 31, 2021 at 12:14 pm | #

      Nope, definitely not just you

  29. Teddae
    Teddae
    July 31, 2021 at 12:34 am | #

    amber’s right though. it IS easier to type on the laptop. i hate typing on my phone so much. i wish phones these days still had actual buttons instead of a flat screen.

  30. Cmasta1992
    Cmasta1992
    July 31, 2021 at 12:49 am | #

    I feel like I need to draw Joyce giving doing a Slipshine now. Is that allowed? Will i get I’m trouble? What are the rules

    • Cmasta1992
      Cmasta1992
      July 31, 2021 at 12:52 am | #

      Rule 1 is to proofread before hitting Post Comment jfc…

      • Demoted Oblivious
        Demoted Oblivious
        July 31, 2021 at 1:03 am | #

        Rule 2 is to not talk about fight-club.

        • Clif
          Clif
          July 31, 2021 at 1:17 am | #

          Rule 3 is to ignore Rule 4.

          • He Who Abides
            He Who Abides
            July 31, 2021 at 1:45 am | #

            Never speak of Rule 5.

            Oops.

            • Demoted Oblivious
              Demoted Oblivious
              July 31, 2021 at 3:31 pm | #

              Rule #6 is you must post it to Imgur and share the link in the comments.

              • Demoted Oblivious
                Demoted Oblivious
                July 31, 2021 at 3:32 pm | #

                [edit] that should be Rule #0.

    • Wagstaff
      Wagstaff
      July 31, 2021 at 12:54 am | #

      Yotomoe does it. I don’t see why not!

    • Joyfulldreams
      Joyfulldreams
      July 31, 2021 at 2:54 pm | #

      PLEASE DO THIS.

    • cmasta1992
      cmasta1992
      July 31, 2021 at 5:45 pm | #

      Joyce makes an ironclad argument [NSFW]

  31. Calibus
    Calibus
    July 31, 2021 at 12:52 am | #

    Oh fuck. Ambers the right person to talk to about joyces problems.

  32. Tawnee
    Tawnee
    July 31, 2021 at 1:02 am | #

    Is this how we learn that the Whiteboard Ding-dong Bandit couldn’t easily get the whiteboards clean afterwards, and had to employ a little spit n’ polish? Did it awaken something?

    Let’s read on!

    • brionl
      brionl
      July 31, 2021 at 1:09 am | #

      If you accidently write on a whiteboard with a permanent marker, take an erasable marker and draw over it. Then you should be able to wipe both of them off.
      There may be a bit of shadow left over.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        July 31, 2021 at 1:12 am | #

        Oh no. Not this again! XD

        (The arc in question had this same suggestion among others in the comments roughly 15 zillion times per strip. AG just told Joyce there were dozens of ways to remove them.)

        • Clif
          Clif
          July 31, 2021 at 1:23 am | #

          This works particularly well if you have dozens of erasable markers with which to mark over the permanent mark.

      • Bicycle Bill
        Bicycle Bill
        July 31, 2021 at 2:10 am | #

        Acetone (fingernail polish remover) will also work.

      • Wingless
        Wingless
        July 31, 2021 at 2:32 am | #

        Make sure it’s dry erase though, wet erase doesn’t do it the same.

  33. Catt
    Catt
    July 31, 2021 at 1:06 am | #

    I refuse to believe Amber wouldn’t be able to do a screencap on a laptop in less than a second

    • Pearl
      Pearl
      July 31, 2021 at 1:52 am | #

      By taking a photo of it with her phone.

      • Segnosaur
        Segnosaur
        July 31, 2021 at 10:29 am | #

        You know i have actually done that.

        I was testing a software application that was generating an error. I needed to capture the error to log it, but whenever i tried the print screen button or the snipping tool the error popup would vanish. So, i took a quick picture of the screen with my phone.

    • Bicycle Bill
      Bicycle Bill
      July 31, 2021 at 2:19 am | #

      She could do all that and more. Remember when she hijacked the printer in the computer class in like the third week of first semester?

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      July 31, 2021 at 4:19 am | #

      PrintScr
      Win+R
      pbrush
      Enter
      Ctrl+V
      Ctrl+S
      Enter

      That shouldn’t be too hard to macro.

      • Demoted Oblivious
        Demoted Oblivious
        July 31, 2021 at 10:17 am | #

        You are correct. It /shouldn’t/ be. But in basic Windows it *is*.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      July 31, 2021 at 10:40 am | #

      She said only that it was ‘quicker’ on a phone. Not that it was impossible anywhere else.

  34. Beau Kirin Maysey
    Beau Kirin Maysey
    July 31, 2021 at 1:15 am | #

    Amber: “Are you both finished with your frankly baffling cross-talk? I’m finding it’s still draining my social spoons, just at half the rate.”

  35. jimbotherisenclown
    jimbotherisenclown
    July 31, 2021 at 1:16 am | #

    Joyce has the same energy as Season 4 Sypha here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn40jVORaG4

    • Wagstaff
      Wagstaff
      July 31, 2021 at 1:25 am | #

      I’m only just picking that up too!

      By the way, just where did you get that alluring avatar?

      • StClair
        StClair
        July 31, 2021 at 3:31 am | #

        From here, I expect.

        • Wagstaff
          Wagstaff
          July 31, 2021 at 3:38 am | #

          *drools from awesome aura of pure SAUCE*

          Seriously, someone should make this an actual game!

          Why isn’t Taco Bell on the roster?

  36. Anastasia
    Anastasia
    July 31, 2021 at 1:30 am | #

    Please be when Joe finally admits to caring for Joyce. I need to see Joe be cute ><

  37. He Who Abides
    He Who Abides
    July 31, 2021 at 1:46 am | #

    They’re gonna kiss, by Monday.

    • Sol
      Sol
      July 31, 2021 at 1:52 am | #

      Don’t give me hope.

    • HeatherJean
      HeatherJean
      July 31, 2021 at 4:22 am | #

      And bone by Thursday.

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        July 31, 2021 at 5:12 am | #

        And Friday, they’re in love

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          July 31, 2021 at 5:37 am | #

          Fuck that’s good

        • Demoted Oblivious
          Demoted Oblivious
          July 31, 2021 at 10:20 am | #

          Satur-DAAAAAAY, wait

          • Deanatay
            Deanatay
            July 31, 2021 at 10:42 am | #

            Sunday always comes too late
            But Friday never hesitate

  38. woobie
    woobie
    July 31, 2021 at 1:47 am | #

    So, the opposite of what Amber is saying is to stop looking at the phone.

  39. BenRG
    BenRG
    July 31, 2021 at 2:03 am | #

    Poor Amber! I wonder how often she tries to express herself and explain her problems only to have an audience who are entirely focused on themselves?

    Joe, meanwhile, is wondering if being aroused by Joyce when she’s in this mood is a good or a bad thing. Joyce, on the other hand, seems likely to kiss him out of a tension and annoyance overload!

    • deliverything
      deliverything
      July 31, 2021 at 5:22 am | #

      Please forgive my aromantic ignorance, but do people really kiss “out of a tension and annoyance overload”? I’d assumed that was just something that happened in movies.
      Then again, I never understood the appeal of squashing one’s lips against another person’s (and how do you even figure out whose nose goes where?), so maybe the concept’s perfectly reasonable somehow.

      • Sam
        Sam
        July 31, 2021 at 10:05 am | #

        It only makes sense if there is underlying attraction that can be acted on. You will likely not kiss your absolute archenemy that you find repulsive as sin and have no physical or emotional attraction to.

        But if someone is overloaded with emotion, acting on their attraction can be the emotional outlet they end up taking because emotions need to stop, releasing them must be done in any way possible ASAP.

    • Segnosaur
      Segnosaur
      July 31, 2021 at 10:33 am | #

      Is joe actually aroused now?

      I know he probably has a general attraction to joyce, but he seems to be more worried about joyce’s situation, and was taken aback by her swearing.

  40. Eldritchy
    Eldritchy
    July 31, 2021 at 2:06 am | #

    Amber turns around, sees them smooching and wonders
    “How did that happen?”

  41. Wraithy2773
    Wraithy2773
    July 31, 2021 at 2:13 am | #

    …what the fuck, Amber.

    Screencaps with your phone? With your PHONE?!

    You’re a compsci student, you have to have the snip tool on your computer, or at least printscreen to shove into GIMP or some other freeware photoshop alternative! Only complete monsters take screencaps with their goddamn phones!

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      July 31, 2021 at 2:19 am | #

      Are you…talking about taking a picture of the screen with your phone? Or? That’s the only way I could make sense of this anger, which is otherwise being directed at a very common practice.

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        July 31, 2021 at 2:30 am | #

        Or, rather, do you think that’s what Amber is talking about doing.

    • Wagstaff
      Wagstaff
      July 31, 2021 at 2:33 am | #

      I can only hope her math skills will compensate for such a lack of figuring out time saving shortcuts on her devices.

      If not, oh well…..

    • Eldritchy
      Eldritchy
      July 31, 2021 at 3:16 am | #

      Doesn’t she mean taking screenshots of what’s On the smartphone?

    • StClair
      StClair
      July 31, 2021 at 3:36 am | #

      I have heard it said that phones (and other consumer electronics) have now been simplified and been made user-friendly enough that it can no longer be assumed that young people are more tech-savvy than their elders; both are equally confused and at a loss when something doesn’t “just work”.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        July 31, 2021 at 4:17 am | #

        They do, and it bugs the shit out of me because they’re dragging real computers down with them. “No, I don’t need error codes! Just throw a “oopsy there was a pwobwem, sowwy” message up on the screen, maybe add a frowny face too, why not!” Gah!

        Amber’s right that smart devices can take screenshots almost instantly by holding a couple physical buttons; I haven’t seen them get taken that fast since the pre-OS X Mac days (when Command-Shift-3 dumped the screen to an image file, complete with digitized camera shutter sound). Even Snipping Tool isn’t that fast (but it’s still a vast improvement over the old way).

        • Zaxares
          Zaxares
          July 31, 2021 at 6:08 am | #

          Fluffy yet entirely useless error messages are a huge pet peeve of mine too, speaking as a geek who grew up in the 80’s and 90’s. “Oops, something went wrong!” Yeah, I KNOW something went wrong. What I NEED is more information about WHAT went wrong so I can solve it!

      • Eldritchy
        Eldritchy
        July 31, 2021 at 4:27 am | #

        Very much this, I come from a generation where personal computers were only starting to get popular in my country and we had to do a lot of own learning and work,. Reinstalling the operating system, fixing problems etc. etc. Nowadays the computers are reliable enough that your average user doesn’t really have to know much to operate one.

  42. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    July 31, 2021 at 3:17 am | #

    Joyce is so rude with poor Joe. She should know that he’s totally obsessed by family. Her bad humour is making her really angry and susceptible. Poor Joe, he looks so sad hearing Joyce say such words… Also, I admire Amber’s capacity to ignore their quarrel.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      July 31, 2021 at 6:44 am | #

      But he’s cursed to only ever be the thing he was before, or so he’s told.

      • Schpoonman
        Schpoonman
        July 31, 2021 at 7:57 am | #

        Tall Rachel is one of the worst.

  43. Moon
    Moon
    July 31, 2021 at 3:24 am | #

    she’d hate that i was shocked she knows what oral sex is for just a second

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      July 31, 2021 at 5:15 am | #

      She’s done it plenty in the time skip. Virtually, of course, under the protective shield of the RP Asterisk.

  44. Bagge
    Bagge
    July 31, 2021 at 4:16 am | #

    That’s five bucks you owe her, Joe.

    • Amos Batista
      Amos Batista
      July 31, 2021 at 4:18 am | #

      Ow year, you remembered that.

  45. Delicious Taffy
    Delicious Taffy
    July 31, 2021 at 5:24 am | #

    Free writing prompt: Joyce and Joe slow burn romance set in a Wild West frontier AU that also happens to include a Stable Time Loop.

    • Demoted Oblivious
      Demoted Oblivious
      July 31, 2021 at 3:17 pm | #

      Is… is that a non-collapsing time loop, .. or a time-loop set in a stable with horses?

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        July 31, 2021 at 5:34 pm | #

        It’s both and neither.

  46. Lone Duck
    Lone Duck
    July 31, 2021 at 6:22 am | #

    For all the folk upset that Amber is taking screencaps with her phone instead of PrintScr, I would like to point out that this in line with Garbage Roof mentality. Besides, if you want to put a laptop screencap on your phone, taking the picture with your phone is the quickest method. Plus it trolls all the internet types that would get upset.

    • Eldritchy
      Eldritchy
      July 31, 2021 at 6:49 am | #

      Future Adeptus Mechanicus recruits are protesting against sacrilege.

    • Kavonde
      Kavonde
      July 31, 2021 at 7:16 am | #

      I just… You press the power button and the volume down button at the same time. That captures your phone’s screen. Why do people think she’s talking about photographing her laptop screen?

  47. Varangian
    Varangian
    July 31, 2021 at 7:04 am | #

    My girl Ambs out here dropping knowledge while these chumps just yell over each other about the things they DEFINITELY would NEVER WANT TO DO TO EACH OTHER, especially BLOWJOBS, Joyce, Joe has NEVER imagined you giving one

    • Schpoonman
      Schpoonman
      July 31, 2021 at 8:00 am | #

      And Joyce has certainly never wondered just what Joe looks like doenstairs, nope, no way, no how, not ever, certainly not after her ascension as the Ding Dong White Board Bandit, and DEFINITELY not after getting a faceful of Joe-in-boxers earlier today.

  48. darkoneko
    darkoneko
    July 31, 2021 at 9:28 am | #

    Amber “WILL YOU TWO SMOOCH IT YOU ALREADY”

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      July 31, 2021 at 10:44 am | #

      *Joyce and Joe suddenly start making out*

      *Amber takes screencap on phone, then on laptop*

      Amber: See, quicker.

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        July 31, 2021 at 12:46 pm | #

        Then she turns to them like “So, what was it you needed, again?”

  49. TheFlamingonator
    TheFlamingonator
    July 31, 2021 at 10:38 am | #

    I think Amber would be THE HAPPIEST with some noise-cancelling headphones right about now

  50. Hinoron
    Hinoron
    July 31, 2021 at 11:07 am | #

    Congratulations on graduating from age 8 maturity to age 10 maturity, Joyce.

  51. Alan in DC
    Alan in DC
    July 31, 2021 at 12:22 pm | #

    Reading the strip early this morning before getting out of bed. Laughed out loud at Joyce. The Mrs asked me what was so funny, so I showed her.
    Didnt find it humorous one bit.
    DoA – obviously for discriminating readers.

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      July 31, 2021 at 1:31 pm | #

      I mean this particular joke doesn’t really land properly if you’re not a regular reader— it’s only shocking if you know what Joyce is generally like. That’s less a criticism and more a natural consequence of this being a serialized dramedy that’s been running for a decade.

  52. ETP
    ETP
    July 31, 2021 at 1:06 pm | #

    Joyce’s glasses are really going to her head.

  53. Wakeangel2001
    Wakeangel2001
    July 31, 2021 at 2:09 pm | #

    this is the worst setup for step-sibling porn I’ve ever seen

    • chuckroast
      chuckroast
      July 31, 2021 at 2:55 pm | #

      Worst or best?

  54. Jammy
    Jammy
    July 31, 2021 at 2:55 pm | #

    My new favorite side game in the comic is pretending certain dialogue bits are going to be very inappropriate titles for the current chapter/book. Guess which one I picked today.

    • JohnnyO
      JohnnyO
      July 31, 2021 at 3:38 pm | #

      Maybe for the Slipshine printed edition

      • Wagstaff
        Wagstaff
        July 31, 2021 at 3:44 pm | #

        Hmmm…. appetizers….. I wonder what delicious creation awaits us in the near future….

    • Jammy
      Jammy
      August 1, 2021 at 2:04 am | #

      Honestly, half of them make a good punchline for the game, so there’s hardly a wrong answer.

  55. Josh Spicer
    Josh Spicer
    July 31, 2021 at 4:19 pm | #

    Joyce said cocksucking.

    Like an adult.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      July 31, 2021 at 4:50 pm | #

      One word down, six to go!

      • Bathymetheus
        Bathymetheus
        July 31, 2021 at 8:32 pm | #

        Are there only seven deadly swears?

        • Wagstaff
          Wagstaff
          July 31, 2021 at 9:09 pm | #

          Thirteen if you’re a sailor!

  56. Gash
    Gash
    July 31, 2021 at 8:25 pm | #

    Yep the whole trio here is looking particularly stupid and maybe demented this time around.
    Kinda weird how people can go from complete smartass to braindead within the same person, and within a short timespan, then just ramp back up to normal.

  57. Rani
    Rani
    July 31, 2021 at 9:24 pm | #

    There should be a character tag for all of those words Joyce just used.

  58. Steelbright
    Steelbright
    July 31, 2021 at 9:50 pm | #

    I’m just over here actively cackling over how this has all played out.

  59. Lis
    Lis
    August 2, 2021 at 8:14 pm | #

    Amber is channeling me so hard right now

  60. JA
    JA
    August 2, 2021 at 11:06 pm | #

    Oh shi-, Joyce did it. She said sex. And cocksucking.

    I think we’ve made a breakthrough.

  61. Steelbright
    Steelbright
    August 6, 2021 at 4:54 pm | #

    Definitely projecting my own experiences, but for this whole Joe/Joyce interaction I’ve been really relating to Joe here. And that is a weird place to be, given….you know, Joe.

    I can just see it in his head: that thing where there’s this person you care about, and you know rationally that your ideological differences & sexual preferences would probably not mesh well, but a part of you is still interested, despite yourself, because of the slight chance it might be kinky and glorious….

    I guess key here is that you can still respect someone while feeling this weird kinda way about them. And you can still respect them while wishing they hadn’t said “cocksucking” because now you DEFINITELY have that image in your head

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