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by David M Willis on September 14, 2021 at 12:01 am
  • 01 – Sister, Christian
└ Tags: danny, sal

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  1. TrueVCU
    TrueVCU
    September 14, 2021 at 12:04 am | #

    As long as it’s not a Dunkin you’re good

    • Clif
      Clif
      September 14, 2021 at 12:23 am | #

      S’matter with Dunkins? All doughnuts taste more a less alike; it’s only the coating or filling that’s different.

      • woobie
        woobie
        September 14, 2021 at 12:45 am | #

        Dunkin’ is just fine. Krispy Kremes get boring fast.

      • Daibhid C
        Daibhid C
        September 14, 2021 at 5:22 am | #

        I have no horse in this race, having been to neither, (the new shopping centre in Edinburgh has a Krispy Kreme, but I’ve not tried it yet), but that feels a bit like saying “All pizzas are more or less alike; it’s only the toppings that are different.”

        • Rose by Any Other Name
          Rose by Any Other Name
          September 14, 2021 at 7:56 am | #

          I adamantly disagree.
          The crust is the most important variable in pizza.
          Bad crust means bad pizza, no matter what toppings they put on it.
          Sauce is also an important factor – sweet tomato sauce is a hard limit for me.

          • He Who Abides
            He Who Abides
            September 14, 2021 at 10:37 am | #

            ff you’re not allergic, try pesto as a pizza sauce.

            • Rose by Any Other Name
              Rose by Any Other Name
              September 14, 2021 at 4:09 pm | #

              I have and it’s wonderful, but it isn’t that commonly served. I only know of a couple of places where I can get that.

              • He Who Abides
                He Who Abides
                September 14, 2021 at 10:30 pm | #

                True 🙁 but that’s why I make a pizza once a month at home, so we can have the pizza we really want.

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            September 14, 2021 at 3:54 pm | #

            Good pizza has a sturdy enough crust to not flop over when you curl the crust side in, unless it’s intentionally paper-thin. (In that case you should have to almost fold it in half.)

            If it’s thin but made in a deep pan with the cheese all the way to the edge, so there’s a lace of burnt cheese sticking up from the outside edge, even better.

      • Ava-Ann
        Ava-Ann
        September 14, 2021 at 5:35 am | #

        Dunkin’s donuts taste like icing over flavorless bread. Decent coffee though

      • Jason
        Jason
        September 14, 2021 at 7:16 am | #

        At least in my area, Dunkin seems to come out of the fryer already stale… the number of times I’ve gone there and gotten a non-crunchy donut in the last 15 years I could count on one hand. Krispy Kreme has stale donuts too if you’re unlucky, but anything glazed will have a decent shelf life.

        I will give Dunkin credit for their breakfast sandwiches though, and decent-enough coffee for the price. Basically anything there is fine, except for the thing they’re named after.

      • Badeyes
        Badeyes
        September 14, 2021 at 3:01 pm | #

        badbakers.com
        Evilly good.

    • TlalocW
      TlalocW
      September 14, 2021 at 12:48 am | #

      Oh, man, give me Dunkin any day over Krispy Kreme’s air-sugar.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        September 14, 2021 at 4:43 am | #

        This! There’s nothing else quite like a fresh, plain glazed from Dunkin’. Sure it’s garbage tier fast food, but it doesn’t pretend it’s anything else.

        • Rose by Any Other Name
          Rose by Any Other Name
          September 14, 2021 at 7:59 am | #

          I imagine it varies by location – as with most franchises. I’ve had extremely varied experiences with Dunkin just with the limited number of locations in my area. One is really good – both baked goods and coffee – while one of the others is fairly sucky.

          There’s only one Krisyp Kreme in the area. My dad swears they have the best donuts in the world. And… yeah, no. Air-sugar is a good descriptor, TlalocW.

    • Chris (the other one)
      Chris (the other one)
      September 14, 2021 at 7:03 am | #

      I prefer Texas Donuts … they have a donut the size of your head, containing enough dough for 14 regular sized donuts…. heart-stoppingly delish

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      September 14, 2021 at 8:26 am | #

      I see and stare down all your chain corporate doughnut shops (and I’ll throw Tim Hortons in and out of this ring), and I’ll raise you all whatever local independent Mom n’ Pop doughnut shop you have nearby that’s still alive. Independent doughnut shops, _whoever_ where-ever they are, 11/10 everytime.

      • Deanatay
        Deanatay
        September 14, 2021 at 11:13 am | #

        Agreed – chains suck. We have neither KK nor Dunkin’s in my area, but three local doughnut stores compete fairly with each other. SLODOCO is the youngest and artsiest, appeals to the college-student crowd. Sunshine’s the oldest, and still the best for my money. Freshhh (yes, that’s not a misspelling) – well, it’s still in business, and they’re not bad.

  2. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    September 14, 2021 at 12:04 am | #

    people joke about Krispy Kreme around me, but I s2g I got hooked from all the middling school fundraisers we did through them yet as much as I crave them, my husband goes to Dunkin bc that’s down the street vs. two cities over though I can always go my damn self if we ever stop having a pandemic since two cities over is down the street from my company’s office though the problem THEN is I’m only MAYBE able to have one and I feel like a chump ordering one measly doughnut, even if it’s a Duck Donut

    • Schpoonman
      Schpoonman
      September 14, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

      I really resonated with your immense “why has fast food struck me with a personal crisis, it’s fast food” energy. Thank you, I feel a little less alone than I did before reading this.

      • Clif
        Clif
        September 14, 2021 at 12:26 am | #

        You don’t buy a single doughnut. You buy a dozen. You eat one. You stick one away for latter. You put the box out in the break room or wherever and the rest magically disappear.

        • StClair
          StClair
          September 14, 2021 at 1:03 am | #

          Pretty much.

        • Azhrei Vep
          Azhrei Vep
          September 14, 2021 at 7:36 am | #

          That’s nonsense. Then you’ve just paid for ten doughnuts you don’t even get to eat. Why would anyone ever do that?

          If you’re only going to eat two, only buy two. If someone else wants some, they can fork over for their own.

          • Rose by Any Other Name
            Rose by Any Other Name
            September 14, 2021 at 9:01 am | #

            Presumably the idea is that you will get the return on investment on other days when donuts or other foodstuffs magically appear in the office and one gets fed for free.

          • Decidedly Orthogonal
            Decidedly Orthogonal
            September 14, 2021 at 9:49 am | #

            a.k.a.
            “Who wants friends or to be accepted in to a welcoming supportive social circle? Fuck you man, I got mine!”

          • Decidedly Orthogonal
            Decidedly Orthogonal
            September 14, 2021 at 9:51 am | #

            I really need an app that lets me add or subtract points from an avatar/profile so when/if I meet people like this in real life, I know/remember not to trust them.

            • Clif
              Clif
              September 14, 2021 at 5:00 pm | #

              I’m not sure I would go that far, but good stuff is always more enjoyable shared.

              • Decidedly Orthogonal
                Decidedly Orthogonal
                September 14, 2021 at 6:55 pm | #

                “When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time. People know themselves much better than you do. That’s why it’s important to stop expecting them to be something other than who they are.”
                — Dr. Maya Angelou

                There are people in this world who believe in being good to each other, in being kind, and in sharing the burden of existence to make life better for all. There are also people who will skip from group to group, abusing and taking from those that they can for as long as they can get away with it, and will move along to the next mark the moment they get a chance, and care not one whit for helping, or being a part of community, except for that which they can take for themselves. There are degrees of this certainly, but one thing globalization has taken from us, is the ability for ostracizing a predator to have an impact on their behaviour. When tribalism could mean that ostracizing equaled risk of death, banishment was a threat. Now it’s an opportunity to move up. Until we figure out how to deal with the socio- and psycho-paths who are doing their utmost to destroy our civilization for their own gain, we need to keep trying things to work towards finding that solution. So yeah, I’m willing to try a social system that helps us ostracize assholes.

                Jeeze I seem bitter tonight. Didn’t mean for it to be that strong, but I’m gonna let it stand. Always good to hear your thoughts though Clif.

              • Decidedly Orthogonal
                Decidedly Orthogonal
                September 14, 2021 at 7:15 pm | #

                I should probably have provided a citation (Dr Maya Angelou, Oprah Winfrey) for all that too.

    • He Who Abides
      He Who Abides
      September 14, 2021 at 12:54 am | #

      Since Ms. Abides moved in with us, there’s been at least one weekend late-morning donut and cartoon session with her sister every week, and she always brings Krispy Kremes. I’m kinda hooked now, so I can definitely sympathize with your cravings.

    • Tsa
      Tsa
      September 14, 2021 at 2:09 am | #

      I liked Krispy Kreme when I was younger but now I think they’re just too soft. I know that’s a good thing for some people but I’d like mine to have a little more substance for me to chew on, you know?

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      September 14, 2021 at 4:48 am | #

      They briefly expanded into my region several years ago, and they marketed themselves as some kind of uber-premium donut experience. They lasted maybe three years until their restaurants closed and you could only find their donuts in display cases at convenience stores next to the Hostess and Entenmann’s products.

      Meanwhile, Dunk’s and a couple local chains just kept on truckin’.

      • Lena
        Lena
        September 14, 2021 at 7:08 am | #

        Are you in New England? Hard for anything to beat out Dunkin here. I’m in Boston where there’s a Dunkin every two blocks, and I can’t imagine Krispy Kreme ever getting a reasonable foothold (even though I know plenty of transplants who talk about how it’s the best thing ever).

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          September 14, 2021 at 12:31 pm | #

          Yup, south of Boston. Dunks and Honey Dew have this territory locked down. (I think that’s why Krispy Kreme was a flash in the pan up here. No idea how Marylou’s is still holding on.)

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        September 14, 2021 at 9:53 am | #

        If they last exactly the same on a shelf like hostess does, what’s the point in maintaining a storefront for ‘fresh’ delivery?

        • Victor
          Victor
          September 14, 2021 at 10:16 am | #

          They don’t last on a shelf. They’re good for a few days, but they’ll be stale and rock hard in a week.
          And at the Krispy Kreme store they’re very fresh, and you get them still hot when the hot doughnuts now sign is on.
          They’re much better than Dunkin.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          September 14, 2021 at 12:38 pm | #

          The local Hess station had one of those infrared warming display cases and got fresh deliveries daily.

          Now that their closest location is 75 miles away, we don’t get their donuts anymore.

    • Ava-Ann
      Ava-Ann
      September 14, 2021 at 5:40 am | #

      I should feel really lucky that there are 2 Krispy’s in my town, both about 10 minutes from me… But I dunno somewhere between the age of 22 and 25, the classic started tasting different to me so much that I don’t crave them anymore – especially when they’re Hot.

      Still better than dunkin. I had duck donuts once before they closed in my area and I dream about their cake donut (or I think it was)

      • Ana Chronistic
        Ana Chronistic
        September 15, 2021 at 12:13 am | #

        if there was a donut conveyor belt, that’s Duck

  3. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    September 14, 2021 at 12:04 am | #

    You get to the place and then you go somewhere else when you chose. It’s not really that complicated Sal.

    • Clif
      Clif
      September 14, 2021 at 12:28 am | #

      The joy is in the journey, not the destination. If you aren’t enjoying the journey, you probably picked the wrong destination.

      • He Who Abides
        He Who Abides
        September 14, 2021 at 12:48 am | #

        “The journey sucks. That’s why you have a destination.”

        -Clark W. Griswold (I think, I only saw a preview with that line once)

        • Decidedly Orthogonal
          Decidedly Orthogonal
          September 14, 2021 at 9:55 am | #

          Ahhh the sweet embrace of death.

      • MrSmith
        MrSmith
        September 14, 2021 at 3:29 pm | #

        You can have the journey and the destination

  4. Proto_Eevee
    Proto_Eevee
    September 14, 2021 at 12:04 am | #

    Sal is trying to be profound, but she must have forgotten she’s talking to Danny

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      September 14, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

      He has his moments, but yeah, Danny can be simple sometimes, which I definitely do not mean as a synonym for “stupid” here. And I mean, Sal probably can benefit from a little bit less complication in her life.

      • Clif
        Clif
        September 14, 2021 at 12:29 am | #

        Doughnuts can be as complicated as you make them.

        • He Who Abides
          He Who Abides
          September 14, 2021 at 12:49 am | #

          Only if you’re the one baking them.

          • Victor
            Victor
            September 14, 2021 at 10:18 am | #

            If you’re baking them, you’re doing it very, very wrong.

            It’s not a doughnut if you don’t deep fry it.

    • MrSmith
      MrSmith
      September 14, 2021 at 3:30 pm | #

      She’s also forgotten she’s a teenager

  5. Wack'd
    Wack'd
    September 14, 2021 at 12:05 am | #

    Yes, Krispy Kreme, the company that’s always one K away from disaster!

    • Clif
      Clif
      September 14, 2021 at 12:41 am | #

      What does the hypothetical third K stand for?

      • Proto_Eevee
        Proto_Eevee
        September 14, 2021 at 12:46 am | #

        kum

      • I am Nothing
        I am Nothing
        September 14, 2021 at 2:43 am | #

        Krispy Kreme Klan

      • Ed Rhodes
        Ed Rhodes
        September 14, 2021 at 7:12 am | #

        Kompany!

      • Ryek Hvek
        Ryek Hvek
        September 14, 2021 at 1:50 pm | #

        Knish

  6. darkoneko
    darkoneko
    September 14, 2021 at 12:06 am | #

    You thought it was Krispy Kreme BUT IT WAS I, GALASSO

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      September 14, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

      In the background of this comic,never focused on, but happening at all times, is the Franchise Wars.

      Soon the characters will look around and every restaurant in town will be a Galasso’s.

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        September 14, 2021 at 9:56 am | #

        Is that a Galasso’s KFC/Taco-Bell?

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          September 14, 2021 at 12:40 pm | #

          They’re at the combination Galasso’s/KFC/Taco Bell

    • Lars
      Lars
      September 14, 2021 at 2:22 am | #

      upvote

  7. Ghastly
    Ghastly
    September 14, 2021 at 12:06 am | #

    “No matter where you go, there you are. At Krispy Kreme.”

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      September 14, 2021 at 12:09 am | #

      If you weren’t trying to get somewhere, and just turned up without really knowing how, you’re probably at Denny’s.

      • Stephen Bierce
        Stephen Bierce
        September 14, 2021 at 12:14 am | #

        But you’ll go past the IHOP before you get to Denny’s or Krispy Kreme…
        …and then there’s the matter of Huddle House.

        • Clif
          Clif
          September 14, 2021 at 12:32 am | #

          Is Huddle House what they call Waffle House in your neck of the woods?

          • woobie
            woobie
            September 14, 2021 at 12:47 am | #

            I think Huddle House is different. The one I once visited was probably in business only because they were Interstate adjacent and had a big parking lot.
            (for big trucks)

      • Jamie
        Jamie
        September 14, 2021 at 12:32 am | #

        That may explain Rita Repulsa.

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      September 14, 2021 at 9:58 am | #

      … and his adventures across the 8th doughnut shoppe.

  8. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    September 14, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

    You know, I can’t even poke fun. A snowy day like that, I bet a donut would really hit the spot.

    • Clif
      Clif
      September 14, 2021 at 12:33 am | #

      Dammit. Now I want a coffee and a doughnut.

      • Azhrei Vep
        Azhrei Vep
        September 14, 2021 at 7:38 am | #

        Aw, why you gotta ruin a perfectly good doughnut with gross bean-water?

  9. AbacusWizard
    AbacusWizard
    September 14, 2021 at 12:09 am | #

    so profoun

    • Clif
      Clif
      September 14, 2021 at 12:34 am | #

      If she was going for profound, it would probably be something like, I don’t know, “Do or donut, there is no try.”

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        September 14, 2021 at 1:53 am | #

        That’s more of a Danny thing to say, or a Walky thing to say.

        … Sal, on the other hand, would do donuts on her bicycle.

  10. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    September 14, 2021 at 12:10 am | #

    She’s got a Ticket To Ride–
    –And she don’t care!

  11. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    September 14, 2021 at 12:11 am | #

    So is there a German word, like “Fahrvergnügen,” except about the joy of biking instead of driving? Because I remember having that feeling a lot when I was these guys’ age, and in better shape.

    • John
      John
      September 14, 2021 at 12:25 am | #

      I put Fahrvergnügen into google translate, it gave me driving pleasure, I swapped the language direction and changed it to biking pleasure, and it gave me Bike-Vergnügen

      • Bicycle Bill
        Bicycle Bill
        September 14, 2021 at 9:03 pm | #

        Considering one of the German words which translates to ‘bicycle’ is ‘Fahrrad’. I suspect ‘Fahrradvergnügen’ would come awfully close.
        Google Translate shows it to mean “cycling pleasure”. So there ya go.

    • woobie
      woobie
      September 14, 2021 at 12:48 am | #

      fahn fahn fahn auf de Autobahn

      • eh, whatever
        eh, whatever
        September 14, 2021 at 2:31 am | #

        fahren, fahren, fahren auf der Autobahn

        (yes, it still rhymes)

        • milu
          milu
          September 14, 2021 at 4:31 am | #

          (pst woobie was just using a colloquial spelling of fahren)

          • milu
            milu
            September 14, 2021 at 4:36 am | #

            (oh right that was your point actually) (i guess) (sorry)

            • Decidedly Orthogonal
              Decidedly Orthogonal
              September 14, 2021 at 10:02 am | #

              psst. psst should have two s’ minimum, to emphasize the onomatopoeia and distance it from Pacific Standard Time (SSSHHHHH!) even though it’s not upper case. Also, and this is important, .

            • Decidedly Orthogonal
              Decidedly Orthogonal
              September 14, 2021 at 10:02 am | #

              boop

              • milu
                milu
                September 14, 2021 at 4:15 pm | #

                sincere apologies u_u

                • Decidedly Orthogonal
                  Decidedly Orthogonal
                  September 14, 2021 at 6:58 pm | #

                  wut? y u apologize for a boop? u got booped. u no apologize when booped. boop should make smile. if no smile from boop, will apologize for boop.

                • milu
                  milu
                  September 14, 2021 at 8:22 pm | #

                  ^w^

        • woobie
          woobie
          September 17, 2021 at 12:37 am | #

          Thanks; I never saw the lyrics written out.

      • khn0
        khn0
        September 14, 2021 at 3:07 pm | #

        Precisely the band who went from “driving expensive and fast cars is fun” to “Tour de France”.
        Radspass anytime.

        • khn0
          khn0
          September 14, 2021 at 3:10 pm | #

          and now all I hear is *I want to ride bicycle I want to ride my bike*

          • Roborat
            Roborat
            September 14, 2021 at 5:25 pm | #

            And are you going to ride it where you like?

    • Tawnee
      Tawnee
      September 14, 2021 at 1:43 am | #

      Also, the joy of driving short distances is Nearvergnügen, and the joy of driving with a friend is Whereveryouarevergnügen.

      The More You Know

    • eh, whatever
      eh, whatever
      September 14, 2021 at 2:31 am | #

      Fahrvergnügen works perfectly well for biking.

      You see, fahren doesn’t mean “drive”. It means “move on wheels, by ship, to hell or up into heaven”.

      Reiten, as in riding a horse, is not used for vehicles at all. Even if you call your bike a Drahtesel “wire donkey” and yourself a Pedalritter “pedal knight”, what you do is still fahren.

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        September 14, 2021 at 10:05 am | #

        Ok _now_. NOW I have to fix my wiredonkey and get back into being a pedalknight!

        • Deanatay
          Deanatay
          September 14, 2021 at 11:21 am | #

          Pedalknights Errant

          • Decidedly Orthogonal
            Decidedly Orthogonal
            September 14, 2021 at 7:00 pm | #

            Skål and huzzah! To adventure!

    • Amos Batista
      Amos Batista
      September 14, 2021 at 10:31 am | #

      ah, nobody likes to invent words for feelings and things we never ever know how to name, like the Germans

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        September 14, 2021 at 12:40 pm | #

        Yeah. That just fills me with gemutlichkeit. (Plus some flavor of umlaut.)

        • khn0
          khn0
          September 14, 2021 at 3:11 pm | #

          can replace umlaut with “ue” here

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      September 14, 2021 at 11:00 am | #

      I would not be surprised if there’s a German word for that feeling.

  12. Robert Thompson
    Robert Thompson
    September 14, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

    The romantic and the realist, but they get to take turns as each

  13. TheKelliestKelly
    TheKelliestKelly
    September 14, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

    What’s harder to draw? A bike or a motorcycle? I’m betting the bicycle

    • Wizard
      Wizard
      September 14, 2021 at 12:34 am | #

      Considering how rarely I see realistically drawn bicycles, you’re probably right.

      • Bicycle Bill
        Bicycle Bill
        September 14, 2021 at 3:55 am | #

        These are acceptable, although they are little more than silhouettes of a bicycle.  I’ll wait until Willis tries to do a detailed closeup before I hand down my final verdict.

    • Sombrero
      Sombrero
      September 14, 2021 at 5:57 am | #

      Considering how Willis chooses to draw them as seen from a longer distance than Sal’s or Asher’s motorcycles, I would bet on the bike.

    • Amos Batista
      Amos Batista
      September 14, 2021 at 9:07 am | #

      shit, the issue is real

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      September 14, 2021 at 12:42 pm | #

      Neither of them really lend themselves to visual media. They’re more often spoken.

      *flees for dear punning life*

      • milu
        milu
        September 14, 2021 at 4:17 pm | #

        NO!

        • Clif
          Clif
          September 14, 2021 at 8:00 pm | #

          I wonder if Sarah would loan me her groan.

  14. Jess
    Jess
    September 14, 2021 at 12:17 am | #

    Unrealistic portrayal of college life. They’re both wearing helmets.

    • Clif
      Clif
      September 14, 2021 at 12:39 am | #

      I believe the helmets. I just don’t believe the lack of logos or other advertising.

  15. BBCC
    BBCC
    September 14, 2021 at 12:19 am | #

    I agree with both of them. Going places is fun, and so is just moving.

    • Azhrei Vep
      Azhrei Vep
      September 14, 2021 at 7:44 am | #

      I disagree with both of them and you. Going places is awful, and moving about aimlessly is even worse.

      • milu
        milu
        September 14, 2021 at 4:24 pm | #

        but nothing matches the deplorableness of staying put.

        • Azhrei Vep
          Azhrei Vep
          September 17, 2021 at 8:16 am | #

          Nah, staying put is great. Make yourself comfy, grab a book or movie or comic or just the internet, and stay there until life sadly forces you to depart.

  16. Clif
    Clif
    September 14, 2021 at 12:21 am | #

    The thing to do is pick a direction and ride that direction as far as you can. And when you come to an ocean, you pick a different direction.

    • Cholma
      Cholma
      September 14, 2021 at 12:42 am | #

      Biking is like skiing: “Go that way, very fast. If something gets in your way, TURN.”

      • StClair
        StClair
        September 14, 2021 at 1:05 am | #

        “Have you any idea what the street value of this mountain is?!”

        • Cholma
          Cholma
          September 14, 2021 at 1:23 am | #

          And *why* does Sal want to go biking with Danny?

          LANGUAGE LESSONS. 😀

          • Deanatay
            Deanatay
            September 14, 2021 at 11:25 am | #

            (Kosell)Bold words, from a man who knows how to bicycle!(/Kosell)

            • Cholma
              Cholma
              September 14, 2021 at 5:19 pm | #

              Can’t wait for Danny to accidentally run into the back of Sal’s bike, so she can mad and threaten him: “Boy, I”m gonna activate your dental plan!”
              (I love that movie so much!)

      • EvilMidnightLurker
        EvilMidnightLurker
        September 14, 2021 at 6:51 am | #

        TWO DOOLLLAAAAAaaaaarrrsss

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      September 14, 2021 at 11:02 am | #

      Ah, the Forrest Gump approach.

  17. TlalocW
    TlalocW
    September 14, 2021 at 12:49 am | #

    Also, while I have come down on Dunkins in the Dunkin vs. Krispy Kreme showdown, they both pale compared to Tim Horton’s.

    • Jess
      Jess
      September 14, 2021 at 1:01 am | #

      FINALLY SOMEONE SAYS IT

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      September 14, 2021 at 1:22 am | #

      Eh, Tim Hortons ain’t as good as it used to be. The Sandwiches in particular are bad now

    • Rose by Any Other Name
      Rose by Any Other Name
      September 14, 2021 at 9:08 am | #

      I will actually agree that Tim Hortons is a solid choice for donuts. Better the Krispy Kreme, IMO.
      That said, their coffee is pretty meh. Not undrinkable, but not good either.

      Dunkin, meanwhile, is my favorite coffee anywhere. Starbucks ain’t got nothin on Dunkin Cold Brew.
      (or, as noted above, the DCB at the ‘good’ Dunkin near my house rather than the ‘bad’ Dunkin three miles south where the Cold Brew tastes like tap water that someone poured half a coffee into).

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      September 14, 2021 at 10:10 am | #

      As a canuck, Imma point out that a _formerly_ canadian company that factory freeze-ships everything and squeezes their franchisees for every red cent they can, doesn’t deserve any more loyalty than any other fascist corporate chain conglomerate.

      Mom n’ Pop doughnut shops or bust.

  18. Bagge
    Bagge
    September 14, 2021 at 12:54 am | #

    Two kinds of people

  19. BenRG
    BenRG
    September 14, 2021 at 2:05 am | #

    My suspicion is that this is the single most sensible thing Sal has ever heard coming from anyone’s lips ever.

  20. Varangian
    Varangian
    September 14, 2021 at 2:09 am | #

    Wise words, Danny. Wise words.

    (I’ll take a Top Pot over any other chain any day of the week, though I’ve yet to try a Tim Horton’s. If it’s Krispy vs. Dunkin’, though, Krispy all the way.)

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      September 14, 2021 at 10:12 am | #

      Tim’s street cred is historical, not current. You’re no longer missing anything.

  21. Xenocide
    Xenocide
    September 14, 2021 at 2:22 am | #

    The only one of these Americans donut chains I’ve tried here in the UK is Krispy Kreme, and I wasn’t impressed.
    Did spend a fun couple of hours in Portland queueing for Voodoo Donut, I liked those.

    I never expected to watch an actual band playing live in the street to entertain people queueing for doughnuts, but there you go.

    • Raen
      Raen
      September 14, 2021 at 4:36 am | #

      I know the UK did at least at one point have Dunkin’, because a scene in Following (one of Nolan’s first films, filmed and set in London) is set there.

  22. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    September 14, 2021 at 3:11 am | #

    Traveling just for the pleasure of traveling… Sal is slowly turning out to be the most romantic character on the strip. I wonder if in autumn she sits in the park watching the leaves fall from the trees. I like it♡, I think Danny will love this side of her personality too.

    • StClair
      StClair
      September 14, 2021 at 3:22 am | #

      IMO, I think it’s more that most of the places Sal is are places she doesn’t want to be.
      When she’s on the road, she’s not at any of those. She’s in transit, her position in flux, unknowable.
      It’s as close to true freedom as she’s ever able or allowed to be.

      • Steelbright
        Steelbright
        September 14, 2021 at 4:12 am | #

        StClair’s interpretation makes sense to me. I think something similar to what Sal says a lot–when you’re on the road, you feel like you’re going somewhere. You’re only doing a little work to feel like you’re actually moving forward, to distract from the fact that when you get somewhere, you have to deal with the pressure of actually doing a thing, or the reality that what you want you can’t just drive/bike to, that moving isn’t necessarily moving forward. This might not be exactly what Sal’s feeling but i bet it’s somewhere around there… Being in transit/in flux is definitely freeing, but in a bittersweet way, because it always ends.

        On the other hand I also think Rabisch’s point about Sal being a secret romantic makes lots of sense with this plotline, and i can definitely see her sitting in the park watching leaves fall…

      • Zaxares
        Zaxares
        September 14, 2021 at 6:54 am | #

        That actually reminds me of the story of John McDouall Stuart, the first man (or first European, at least) from south to north and back again. By all accounts, John was actually a fairly disagreeable man in “civilized society”, with a lot of personal demons. He drank to excess, he swore and gambled, some accounts said he beat his wife. But when he was out on the roads, focused purely on the journey and surviving day-to-day, he was a completely different person. It was like having all of your attention and efforts devoted purely to getting to the next stop meant that all of the constructs and expectations of society fell away. It makes me wonder if some people are just not well built to function in society, and would be much happier being a frontiersman or eternal wanderer.

        • Zaxares
          Zaxares
          September 14, 2021 at 6:55 am | #

          *first man to cross the Australian continent, that is

      • Rabisch
        Rabisch
        September 14, 2021 at 11:10 am | #

        I think Sal has a really big romantic component in her. But StClair’s interpretation is probably more true. Poor Sal. What a tormented soul. At least now she’s no more alone.

  23. Bicycle Bill
    Bicycle Bill
    September 14, 2021 at 3:53 am | #

    alt-text: these bikes are getting out of hand — now there’s two of them!!

    You say that like it’s a bad thing….

    • Elntil
      Elntil
      September 14, 2021 at 3:58 pm | #

      Pretty sure that’s a Star Wars reference (youtube link)

  24. Alex
    Alex
    September 14, 2021 at 5:05 am | #

    The two of them just going for a bike ride together is so wholesome and cute. I know Danny is a goof sometimes but I think he’s good for Sal.

  25. EvilMidnightLurker
    EvilMidnightLurker
    September 14, 2021 at 6:50 am | #

    Bite the horizon, as Terry Pratchett put it.

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      September 14, 2021 at 10:18 am | #

      That’s been some good lurken’ mate. I need to take notes.

  26. Keith
    Keith
    September 14, 2021 at 8:08 am | #

    mmm, donut, mmm must bite.

  27. BenRG
    BenRG
    September 14, 2021 at 8:11 am | #

    I suddenly realised that Danny and Joyce, both of whom you’d expect Linda to consider good influences on Sal, are both being bad influences. I’m sure that there’s a joke in that somewhere.

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      September 14, 2021 at 8:28 am | #

      How’s Danny being a bad influence?

      I think it’s the other way around. Danny’s a good influence, and as soon as Sal’s parents make commentary to that effect she’s going to resent it a lot.

      • BenRG
        BenRG
        September 14, 2021 at 8:35 am | #

        By enabling Sal to skip classes. I know that from a reader’s perspective that’s understandable. However, from Linda’s perspective, things would be very different.

        • Spencer
          Spencer
          September 14, 2021 at 8:39 am | #

          I think Sal skipping class was completely beyond Danny’s power.

          • BenRG
            BenRG
            September 14, 2021 at 9:53 am | #

            Yeah, something tells me that Linda wouldn’t believe that.

            • Spencer
              Spencer
              September 14, 2021 at 9:55 am | #

              Linda strikes me as the last person to believe that Sal needs someone else to convince her to make a bad decision.

              • Decidedly Orthogonal
                Decidedly Orthogonal
                September 14, 2021 at 10:17 am | #

                Linda might go with either.
                1. Danny shouldn’t encourage Sal => is a bad influence
                2. Sal shouldn’t drag Danny down with her

                Both are Linda being shit and I’m not sure y’all need to be arguing over /how/ she’s shit. It’s not like we need to worry about her nitrogen content.

                • Spencer
                  Spencer
                  September 14, 2021 at 1:30 pm | #

                  This is a weird comment.

                  Why wouldn’t we define the actions or motivations of a fictional character, even one who is an asshole?

                  Like if Danny and Sal get serious that strikes me as a pretty obvious point for drama: Sal dating a guy her jerkass parents love because he’s so nice and normal and he’ll set her straight.

                • Decidedly Orthogonal
                  Decidedly Orthogonal
                  September 14, 2021 at 7:02 pm | #

                  Oh nothing wrong with that. I guess from outside it just looked like two folks arguing about wanting to share the same side of the table.

  28. hof1991
    hof1991
    September 14, 2021 at 9:40 am | #

    Sal is less a loner than someone who’s been traumatized and flees connection and contact. Her high school didn’t prepare her well for college or it’s social life.

  29. Daniel M Ball
    Daniel M Ball
    September 14, 2021 at 10:32 am | #

    She’s too intelligent for Daniel. sorry guy.

  30. Keulen
    Keulen
    September 14, 2021 at 11:03 am | #

    Well, now I want donuts.

  31. kira marie
    kira marie
    September 14, 2021 at 11:27 am | #

    wherever you go, there you are

  32. Sensei Le Roof
    Sensei Le Roof
    September 14, 2021 at 1:26 pm | #

    Bleh. Krappy Kreme.

    Winchell’s forever!

  33. Pat
    Pat
    September 14, 2021 at 2:05 pm | #

    This Was Our Pact, by David Willis.

  34. lia
    lia
    September 14, 2021 at 3:14 pm | #

    Dan: You get any sleep last night?
    Sal: I don’t sleep, I just dream
    Dan:

    • milu
      milu
      September 14, 2021 at 4:28 pm | #

      underrated comment

  35. Elntil
    Elntil
    September 14, 2021 at 3:56 pm | #

    @Alt-text: We should not have made this bargain

    ^ Came for this and did not find it. Was so disappointed that I decided to comment for the first time ever

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      September 14, 2021 at 8:01 pm | #

      One of us! One of us! Gooble gobble gooble gobble one of us!

  36. Eily
    Eily
    September 14, 2021 at 10:13 pm | #

    anyone else get Conneticut Clark and Malfina vibes from these two?

  37. michaelinasmeal
    michaelinasmeal
    September 14, 2021 at 10:45 pm | #

    I can hear ruth yelling that Tim’s is superior. (that being said Tim’s has gone way down hill since it was bought by a Brazilian conglomerate)

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