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by David M Willis on November 13, 2021 at 12:01 am
  • 02 – I'll Leave You A Phantom
└ Tags: amber, dina

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    November 13, 2021 at 12:05 am | #

    idk I get super depressed staying awake now there’s zero daylight by the time work is overTHANKS SHITTY FALL BACK TO STANDARD TIME

    also DAAAAAAANG to panel 1!

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      November 13, 2021 at 12:10 am | #

      I’m half-convinced that only having Standard Time when it means it’ll be dark by six is a deliberate attempt to keep people from realizing how much Daylight Time actually sucks in general. I’m in favor of just letting times be what they are, dammit

      Really, though, I just hate the change itself more than anything. I have to take my anti-depression meds at the same time every night before bed, and when the same time isn’t the same time it usually fucks with me for at least a week, often two. Fall back used to be okay-ish before I started needing meds, but now it’s hell too.

      • Cholma
        Cholma
        November 13, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

        Seriously. If you are x Time Zones away from Greenwich, England, then your CLOCKS should always be x hours away from GMT!

        • Agemegos
          Agemegos
          November 13, 2021 at 2:03 am | #

          Over the past few years I’ve had to arrange ever more Internet videoconferences with people in Eastern Australia, California, Kansas, the Uk, and France, and just sorting out what everyone means by the times they say is getting to be quite a pain.

          I’m moving towards the position that everyone ought to set their clocks and arrange their rendezvoux in UTC. I will learn to live with rising at 20:00 and going to bed at 12:00.

          And for a next step, would somebody please remove the clocks from my kitchen stove and the dashboard of my car?

          • elebenty
            elebenty
            November 13, 2021 at 12:02 pm | #

            I’m completely on board with everyone getting used to UTC. Call it common time if we have to. I used to live along the IL border with IN. Half of the year the IN city we had Dr appts in was the same time as us (they didn’t change) the rest of the year we had to do the math.

            My great uncle was born in 1903 and was a proud union maintenance of the way railroad man. He kept a political cartoon of kids waiting at the bus stop in Spring after the time change… wearing miners’ lighted helmets. He firmly believed that DST was only invoked to allow white collar executives to play tennis after work.

        • Clif
          Clif
          November 13, 2021 at 2:06 am | #

          Now see, if it were up to me, we’d go to bed an hour later each night and wake up an hour later the next morning. Clif Standard Time. Because our aging process is keyed to our wake sleep cycle we’d end up living an average of about 4% longer with no medical breakthroughs required.

          Medication wouldn’t be a problem because the dosage would be calibrated for a 25 hour day. Since sunrise and sunset would cycle through the day anyway, we could all switch to GMT/UMT worldwide without unfairly impacting any particular location.

          • Stifyn Baker
            Stifyn Baker
            November 13, 2021 at 2:12 am | #

            Weren’t there some experiments back in the 80s which indicated that humans naturally have a 25-26 hour bodyclock anyway? Your proposal sounds like something I could get behind. Especially the “whole world using GMT” part. On the other hand, simply eliminating sleep altogether also seems like a good idea to me.

            • someone
              someone
              November 13, 2021 at 4:56 am | #

              Eliminating sleep altogether? Reminds me of a webcomic, I think it was called “Power Nap”.

              • quixoticmaunster
                quixoticmaunster
                November 13, 2021 at 12:26 pm | #

                There is also a Doctor Who episode along these lines called Sleep No More.

                • RassilonTDavros
                  RassilonTDavros
                  November 13, 2021 at 4:18 pm | #

                  I remember that one being popular to hate at the time, but honestly I loved that sleep angle. Heh, remember when Doctor Who was actually half-decent at doing episodes about capitalism?

                  At some point its ability to do so went… Kerblam.

              • Some Guy
                Some Guy
                November 13, 2021 at 1:55 pm | #

                Yep. That was one weird comic!

            • ValdVin
              ValdVin
              November 13, 2021 at 6:38 am | #

              I remember that, and I choose to make it the reason why I always want to sleep later and stay up later.

            • Paradox
              Paradox
              November 13, 2021 at 10:42 pm | #

              If you are talking about the studies I think you are talking about, the natural human bodyclock was found to average at 24 hr 20-something min IIRC

              That said, if you have a job with very flexible hours, I’ve heard favorable things about the 28 hour day, spend 19/20 hours awake and 9/8 hours asleep, and it syncs up perfectly with the weeks (6 28 hour days is the same as 7 24 hour days)

          • Agemegos
            Agemegos
            November 13, 2021 at 2:14 am | #

            I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

          • milu
            milu
            November 13, 2021 at 7:33 am | #

            @Clif you have my vote in the next elections for world president.

            (there was a good segment on DST in a recent 99% invisible. turns out it’s been tried many times, many different ways, in a bunch of places, and the lesson is probably that whatever you do, you can’t make everyone happy.)

            • Clif
              Clif
              November 13, 2021 at 11:13 am | #

              I was thinking more along the lines of Supreme Dictator and Lord High Pubah, Rightful Ruler of the Asmovian Spaces and All Lesser Orbs Therein, but hey, World President is good too.

              • Clif
                Clif
                November 13, 2021 at 11:16 am | #

                But tell me more about 99% invisible.

                • milu
                  milu
                  November 13, 2021 at 11:47 am | #

                  i will entertain President and First Tiger but beyond that, i balk.

                  yeah sorry i meant to link to it, it’s a podcast that goes into why things are designed the way they are, that i think is pretty good, here’s the ep i was thinking about
                  https://99percentinvisible.org/episode/matters-of-time/

                • Clif
                  Clif
                  November 13, 2021 at 11:53 pm | #

                  Thanks, milu!

        • Daibhid C
          Daibhid C
          November 13, 2021 at 8:01 am | #

          I am 0 hours away from Greenwich England. I’m also 500 miles north of it. I am very much in favour of getting rid of changing the clocks, as long as Scotland gets to stay on British Summer Time all year, rather than GMT, and it stops being dark at four in the afternoon.

          • Daibhid C
            Daibhid C
            November 13, 2021 at 8:04 am | #

            By “hours” I mean “time zones”, obvs.

          • Adam Black
            Adam Black
            November 15, 2021 at 8:46 am | #

            Same issue with Boston, across the pond. We belong in Atlantic Time, not EST with NYC.
            Its 4pm darkness here too.
            A lot of people bongo ( and public health issues with spring ahead) . but w/ out DST it would be Daylight at 4am in the summer or earlier! ) .

            Best solution is permanent Jump, if you far enough east or North a meridian.

  2. goggleman64
    goggleman64
    November 13, 2021 at 12:06 am | #

    Been there, Amber.

  3. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    November 13, 2021 at 12:06 am | #

    Skipping sleep didn’t really payoff the last time Amber tried it but I’m sure this time it will work!

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      November 13, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

      Come to think of it, skipping sleep lead directly to the appearance of ghost/hallucination Mike because Amber’s got severe mental issues and considering the title of this chapter, he might make a return.

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        November 13, 2021 at 12:43 am | #

        Honestly, I think seeing ANY sleep-deprivation induced trip in this arc would be really cool!

        • Charles Spencer
          Charles Spencer
          November 13, 2021 at 5:37 am | #

          How do we know this scene isn’t one?

          • Clif
            Clif
            November 13, 2021 at 11:19 am | #

            Are you saying that Willis doesn’t get enough sleep?

            • Clif
              Clif
              November 13, 2021 at 11:22 am | #

              Second Becky. Still no Jacob/Lucy/Booster.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      November 13, 2021 at 4:10 am | #

      Wasn’t that when she tried to starve Amazi-Girl out?

  4. NinjaNick
    NinjaNick
    November 13, 2021 at 12:06 am | #

    Dina’s sweater is so cute!

    • Clif
      Clif
      November 13, 2021 at 2:09 am | #

      True, but that is greatly facilitated by having Dina in it.

    • zee
      zee
      November 13, 2021 at 9:38 am | #

      I want one

    • Freddie!
      Freddie!
      November 14, 2021 at 7:32 am | #

      Ah, yes … that IS Dina in the sweater. As another owner of that sweater has exclaimed on many occasions: “I can’t see without my glasses!”

  5. YanderePanzer
    YanderePanzer
    November 13, 2021 at 12:06 am | #

    I’ll leave you a Phantom
    To lead you in the summer
    TO JOIN THE BLACK PARADE

    • milu
      milu
      November 13, 2021 at 7:49 am | #

      [Intro]
      When I was a young boy, my father
      Took me into the city to see a marching band
      He said, “Son, when you grow up would you be
      The savior of the broken, the beaten and the damned?”
      He said, “Will you defeat them? Your demons
      And all the non-believers, the plans that they have made?
      Because one day, I’ll leave you a phantom
      To lead you in the summer to join the black parade”

      [Refrain]
      When I was a young boy, my father
      Took me into the city to see a marching band
      He said, “Son, when you grow up would you be
      The savior of the broken, the beaten and the damned?”

      [Verse 1]
      Sometimes I get the feeling she’s watching over me
      And other times I feel like I should go
      And through it all, the rise and fall, the bodies in the streets
      And when you’re gone, we want you all to know

      [Chorus]
      We’ll carry on, we’ll carry on
      And though you’re dead and gone, believe me
      Your memory will carry on, we’ll carry on
      And in my heart, I can’t contain it
      The anthem won’t explain it

      [Verse 2]
      A world that sends you reeling from decimated dreams
      Your misery and hate will kill us all
      So paint it black and take it back, let’s shout it loud and clear
      Defiant to the end we hear the call

      [Chorus]
      To carry on, we’ll carry on
      And though you’re dead and gone, believe me
      Your memory will carry on, we’ll carry on
      And though you’re broken and defeated
      Your weary widow marches

      [Post-Chorus]
      On and on, we carry through the fears (Oh, oh, oh)
      Disappointed faces of your peers (Oh, oh, oh)
      Take a look at me ’cause I could not care at all

      [Bridge]
      Do or die, you’ll never make me
      Because the world will never take my heart
      Go and try, you’ll never break me
      We want it all, we wanna play this part
      I won’t explain or say I’m sorry
      I’m unashamed, I’m gonna show my scars
      Give a cheer for all the broken
      Listen here, because it’s who we are
      I’m just a man, I’m not a hero
      Just a boy who had to sing this song
      I’m just a man, I’m not a hero
      I don’t care

      [Chorus]
      We’ll carry on, we’ll carry on
      And though you’re dead and gone, believe me
      Your memory will carry on, we’ll carry on
      And though you’re broken and defeated
      Your weary widow marches on

      [Outro]
      Do or die, you’ll never make me
      Because the world will never take my heart
      Go and try, you’ll never break me
      We want it all, we wanna play this part (We’ll carry on)
      Do or die, you’ll never make me (We’ll carry on)
      Because the world will never take my heart (We’ll carry on)
      Go and try, you’ll never break me (We’ll carry)
      We want it all, we wanna play this part (We’ll carry on)

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        November 13, 2021 at 1:44 pm | #

        Seriously, this has been my favorite song for years now! 🤩

        Something tells me the lyrics may be hinting at pretty major plot details in this arc, which just makes me love the song even more!!!

        • milu
          milu
          November 13, 2021 at 3:49 pm | #

          haha yeah it’s like, ooooh which lyrics will turn out to be relevant?

          “Will you defeat them? Your demons and all the non-believers”
          > Will Amber manage to defeat the final boss in the, whatever it is she’s playing, on absolutely no sleep??

          “And though you’re dead and gone, believe me your memory will carry on”
          > RIP Mike. Our moms will never forget you.

          “Disappointed faces of your peers”
          > more Dorothy and Sarah being disappointed at Joyce!

  6. BBCC
    BBCC
    November 13, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

    Oh no. That can’t be good.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      November 13, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

      OH COME ON. A THIRD WALKY IN A ROW?

      Gravitar roulette is taunting me now.

      • Regalli
        Regalli
        November 13, 2021 at 12:09 am | #

        That is impressive. And INCREDIBLY unlikely.

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        November 13, 2021 at 12:09 am | #

        The Walkening has begun!

        • Sirksome
          Sirksome
          November 13, 2021 at 12:10 am | #

          Yeah, uh,….no I don’t want Malaya.

          • BarerMender
            BarerMender
            November 13, 2021 at 12:42 am | #

            I don’t mind Carla, but I really liked being Ruth.

            • Robbie
              Robbie
              November 13, 2021 at 1:42 am | #

              I haven’t commented since they changed so let’s see ….

              • Robbie
                Robbie
                November 13, 2021 at 1:43 am | #

                This is more accurate than my former tbh

                • Clif
                  Clif
                  November 13, 2021 at 2:12 am | #

                  What did it used to be? Since it changes the comment avatars retroactively, we can’t look back to check.

                • Robbie
                  Robbie
                  November 13, 2021 at 2:34 am | #

                  It was a cute Lucy smiling one. A nervous lesbian is just a little more me lol

      • Just_IDD
        Just_IDD
        November 13, 2021 at 3:10 am | #

        I don’t think avatar roulette is working. Otherwise I would not still have blojob cat. For several months.

        • King Daniel
          King Daniel
          November 13, 2021 at 4:09 am | #

          The last time there was a new slate of gravatars was several months ago, though – and it is quite possible indeed that even after a grav changeover the new code applied to your email coincidentally still gives the same grav.

        • BarerMender
          BarerMender
          November 14, 2021 at 3:20 am | #

          I was stuck with Galasso for over a year.

      • McBogue
        McBogue
        November 14, 2021 at 2:46 am | #

        Time to spin the Wheel of Fish…

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      November 13, 2021 at 12:21 am | #

      Nah, it’s fine. Sleep is for the weak.

      • milu
        milu
        November 13, 2021 at 7:52 am | #

        if you sleep several hours every day and then you still have problems, have you tried not sleeping at all for days on end, maybe that’ll help, idk don’t knock it till you try it

  7. Joe Moose
    Joe Moose
    November 13, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

    [reads chapter title]

    Hopefully there won’t be any masked figures lurking in the shadows…

    • Agemegos
      Agemegos
      November 13, 2021 at 2:04 am | #

      A tame wolf would be cute, though.

      • Agemegos
        Agemegos
        November 13, 2021 at 2:32 pm | #

        I think Jacob, of all the cast, would look best in the purple tights. But Joe could pull off the look, I guess. I’m hoping not to meet the Ghost Who Walkertons.

  8. Yumi
    Yumi
    November 13, 2021 at 12:07 am | #

    Oh, I loved fucking up my sleep due to depression in college. Bonus for when I was taking a class that taught the specific damages of that while it was going strong.

    Also, Dina, my love. <33

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      November 13, 2021 at 12:13 am | #

      Yeah, while I don’t use it for depression’s sake, I actually enjoy those nights when I just incidentally don’t get any sleep.

      The day directly afterwards every time, where I was running on nothing but caffeine and cheesy snacks, it was like this very enjoyable in a weird sort of way.

      It was able to do art and surf the web and experience the kinds of things like that I do to relax in this whole new way, and it was an almost psychedelic and almost “spiritual” kind of experience where I was even crying tears of joy at one point, it was just so happy and overwhelming like that.

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        November 13, 2021 at 12:18 am | #

        Oh, once I didn’t sleep for like a couple days, and I was definitely going through it, but that last day was so good. I was walking outside and started tearing up about how much I loved trees.

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          November 13, 2021 at 12:23 am | #

          Yeah, right? It’s one helluva drug.

          *plays “Deep Jungle Walk” by Astrix on the Hacked Muzak*

        • Lensdapens
          Lensdapens
          November 13, 2021 at 6:15 am | #

          That’s like hypermania, isn’t it? It is some sort of self introduced mechanism against depression says my therapist.

      • Ereb
        Ereb
        November 13, 2021 at 12:35 am | #

        Apparently a lack of one night’s sleep puts your mental factulties at a level if slightly tipsy – not that you get high per se, but it takes the edge off. No wonder some shaman rituals involve sleeplessness in fasting, I guess – two nights in I actually start hallucinate slightly, little movements and figures in my peripheral vision, etc.

        • Ereb
          Ereb
          November 13, 2021 at 12:36 am | #

          writing this at 6:30 am my time, btw, because I couldn’t find sleep

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          November 13, 2021 at 12:52 am | #

          Explains why a lot of abusers and cultists try to induce sleep deprivation in their targets too.

          • The Wellerman
            The Wellerman
            November 13, 2021 at 1:00 am | #

            Remember though, when YOU’RE in control, there’s benefit to be had from this occasional experience!

            DON’T LET BAD PEOPLE TAKE GOOD THINGS AWAY FROM US!

            • Clif
              Clif
              November 13, 2021 at 2:19 am | #

              Unfortunately, they do. When perfectly innocent and good things become associated with bad people, we can’t enjoy the things any more without inadvertently supporting the bad people who ruined it.

              • The Wellerman
                The Wellerman
                November 13, 2021 at 2:50 am | #

                Seriously, fuck that!

                Just why couldn’t it work the other way around?

                Because they view us just the very same way, and fear the day we realize that we have just as much power to take what they love away from them.

                Did we give up recreational drugs because government projects like MKULTRA and COINTELPRO used them for horrible purposes against us?
                NO!

                Should we give these bad people any more power and satisfaction?

                FUCK NO!!!

            • BBCC
              BBCC
              November 13, 2021 at 5:39 am | #

              Hey, I’m a big fan of staying up fuck-off late. I just know an incredible asshole who also was a fan of people staying up fuck-off late, on his terms. They were less likely to figure out his gaslight-y abusive bullshit before they got entrenched if they were sleeping at regular, reasonable hours.

              I do not miss him.

              • BBCC
                BBCC
                November 13, 2021 at 5:40 am | #

                If they WEREN’T sleeping at regular, reasonable hours.

                On that note, I’m going to bed.

                • Clif
                  Clif
                  November 13, 2021 at 11:34 am | #

                  Pleasing dreams.

        • Just_IDD
          Just_IDD
          November 13, 2021 at 3:25 am | #

          My personal ‘record’ in college was 5 days of mostly no sleep. I don’t remember some of it, but the parts I do convinced me that I should not repeat. It was a diet of pop (caffine) and the 4 vending food groups: Salty, chewy, crunchy, and sweet. it was over spring break, I had no money, a campus vending account.

          Fun side note…If you don’t fall over at the computer, almost no one notices when you fall asleep at one..

          • milu
            milu
            November 13, 2021 at 7:58 am | #

            people taking naps in random places that are functionally indistinguishable from collapsing from exhaustion? and no one bats an eyelid? yeah that sounds like college

        • Keulen
          Keulen
          November 13, 2021 at 8:21 am | #

          I think the longest I went without sleep was about 38 or 39 hours in college once. Near the end of it I felt similar to being drunk. I still don’t remember how I got from my friend’s dorm to my dorm before I finally went to sleep that day.

  9. RedCat
    RedCat
    November 13, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

    That’s a lie, Amber.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      November 13, 2021 at 10:54 am | #

      Her life is NOT a lie.

      It’s a JOKE.

      There’s a difference.

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        November 13, 2021 at 8:39 pm | #

        Is it a comedy or a tragedy?

        • StClair
          StClair
          November 13, 2021 at 10:20 pm | #

          It can definitely be both.

  10. Regalli
    Regalli
    November 13, 2021 at 12:11 am | #

    … So, I’m just going to ignore the incredibly disturbing things Amber is saying and focus on
    A: Dina looking out for Amber, yay, good, she needs this,
    B: That mismatched sleeves dinosaur hoodie is AMAZING, and if I wore outerwear all that often I would want one.

    • milu
      milu
      November 13, 2021 at 8:07 am | #

      i assume you mean you don’t go outdoors a lot? i still wear a hoodie indoors, like all the time. i’m basically never seen without a hoodie i guess. unless it’s very very warm

      • Regalli
        Regalli
        November 13, 2021 at 10:01 am | #

        Oh, both. I don’t go out a lot (especially since the Plague,) but even when I’m out and about in reasonably cold weather, I have a tendency to go for the lightest possible coat I think necessary and frequently have them off the minute I’m indoors. I overheat REALLY easily, so it’s easier to dress light.

  11. Rose by Any Other Name
    Rose by Any Other Name
    November 13, 2021 at 12:11 am | #

    **sigh**
    No one sang with me yesterday. Therefore, I must sing alone.
    Ahem…

    “ROBOT ROLL CALL!
    Cambot!
    Gypsy!
    Tom Servo!
    CROW!

    If you’re wondering how he eats and breathes
    and other science facts
    La la la
    Then repeat to yourself
    ‘it’s just a show
    and I should really just relax’
    For Mystery Science Theater 3000!”

    :p
    Fine. I’m done now.

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      November 13, 2021 at 1:07 am | #

      i never noticed it before, but the lyrics in the second part would make Dina absolutely cringe

      • Clif
        Clif
        November 13, 2021 at 2:23 am | #

        Next time you’ll have to sing the little known third verse.

    • Geneseepaws
      Geneseepaws
      November 13, 2021 at 8:28 am | #

      I was very fond of crow, but Tom Servo motored into my heart.

  12. newlland(Henryvolt)
    newlland(Henryvolt)
    November 13, 2021 at 12:11 am | #

    Is not wanting to sleep a “I don’t want to be alone with my thoughts so I can let my anxiety induced thoughts take over” thing? Because Amber is just avoiding sleep and other people anyway, besides I’m pretty sure people are a lot less depressed when they’re not tired all the time.

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      November 13, 2021 at 12:21 am | #

      I mean a big sign of depression is often insomnia. It’s also common to act in ways that actively further your depression creating an even deeper depression. That’s just speaking from experience. Amber has routinely displayed very classic signs and needs professional help she’s not likely to get because she’s not actively seeking it and her family isn’t aware of the need, nor or adequate resources freely available.

      • Rabid Rabbit
        Rabid Rabbit
        November 13, 2021 at 12:28 am | #

        Of course, another big sign of depression is often sleeping too much…

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          November 13, 2021 at 12:32 am | #

          “Sleeping too much”
          No such thing. Sleep is the best. If I could I’d sleep 18 hours a day.

          • Proxiehunter
            Proxiehunter
            November 13, 2021 at 12:43 am | #

            Have you checked to see if you’re a cat?

            • Opus the Poet
              Opus the Poet
              November 13, 2021 at 12:53 am | #

              If they were a cat then they couldn’t type or draw because paws, instead of hands with opposable thumbs.

              • elebenty
                elebenty
                November 13, 2021 at 12:27 pm | #

                “Cat-like typing detected”
                I would have sworn we used this phrase in the late 80s for word processing & BBS (no internet yet), but I’m no longer pawsitive. Apparently PawSense (that both detects and tries to spook the cat away) wasn’t released until the 90s.

            • Yotomoe
              Yotomoe
              November 13, 2021 at 12:59 am | #

              Y’know it wasn’t until I started living with a cat that I realized I had a lot of catlike traits.
              I walk around on the balls of my feet. I have a habit of running from room to room. I prefer to be alone all the time but when I wanna be around people I’m incredibly needy.

              • The Wellerman
                The Wellerman
                November 13, 2021 at 1:04 am | #

                Bruh, it’s like you’re reading my mind or something!

              • milu
                milu
                November 13, 2021 at 8:28 am | #

                are you a cat? checklist:
                – you sleep a lot
                – you walk on tiptoe
                – you get sudden fits of craziness
                – cucumbers are evil
                – you’re fundamentally a loner
                – you like being petted though
                – you enjoy the clicking sound and bright light and warmth of this weird object, sometimes outlandish comments are published on the internet as a result, oh well
                – you only get horny a couple times a year

                …so close.

                • Yotomoe
                  Yotomoe
                  November 13, 2021 at 12:21 pm | #

                  Have you recently had your head pet though? It’s…amazing. Like seriously a fantastic sensation. Hard recommend for anyone who hasn’t done it lately.

                • milu
                  milu
                  November 13, 2021 at 1:32 pm | #

                  not lately. or essentially ever? i’m sure it’s amazing. don’t know about head petting but i’ve been given massages before and i basically can not enjoy them, i’m just too anxious generally and about intimacy in particular. i just worry non-stop about whether the other person is enjoying it, like surely not, right, they’re just being nice, or maybe they will enjoy it to the extent that I enjoy it, because that’s what you hope for, right, so now it’s on me to make this a good experience for them by having a good time myself except that’s not happening cause i can’t relax, also i will spend the entire time calculating when the right time to tell them to stop is, like not too soon or it’s insulting, not too late or they will be tired and think i’m greedy or whatever, haha neuroses, yay, ok i’m very obviously not a cat.

                • thejeff
                  thejeff
                  November 13, 2021 at 3:33 pm | #

                  Exactly. If you were a cat you’d just let them know when it’s time to stop by turning around and biting them with no warning at all. All the while still purring them.
                  And they’d still love you for it.

                • milu
                  milu
                  November 13, 2021 at 3:52 pm | #

                  yeah! i’m so jealous of cats for not giving a fuck what anyone thinks. fucking cats. fuckin love em.

          • Hazel
            Hazel
            November 13, 2021 at 1:01 am | #

            As someone who can sleep 16 hours uninterrupted on accident, I can assure you that you are not missing anything. If anything, ppl like me are missing out on waking hours that you get! Let’s trade situations, hm? 😛

            • Hazel (the other one)
              Hazel (the other one)
              November 13, 2021 at 5:12 am | #

              My record is 16 and a half uninterrupted hours of sleep, and 24 interrupted (woke up but didn’t get up, just rolled over and went immediately back to sleep).

          • Spencer
            Spencer
            November 13, 2021 at 4:47 am | #

            You could if you were a North American House Hippo.

      • Sam
        Sam
        November 13, 2021 at 3:09 am | #

        Honestly for depression both under and overdoing things are signs. It isn’t unknown for a depressed person to both oversleep regularly every week and also have difficulties sleeping at all regularly every week on different days. It isn’t which is happening that really matters for identifying it so much as that depressed people fall into irregular patterns due to difficulties caring for themselves and lack of energy and poor coping mechanisms.

      • Just_IDD
        Just_IDD
        November 13, 2021 at 3:31 am | #

        My personal big issue is a desire to not have my personality medicated away like happened to several of my friends. That and as a full atheist most available people want to talk about spirituality and other imaginary things.

        • Twitcher
          Twitcher
          November 13, 2021 at 11:52 am | #

          If someone’s personality is “medicated away”, they’re likely being overdosed. I had a shady psychiatrist for a while, and my behavior scared the living shit out of a few of my family members, who made sure I stepped down to a saner amount of meds.

    • BubblesMcGee
      BubblesMcGee
      November 13, 2021 at 3:44 am | #

      When I am depressed I actively avoid sleeping until I’m so tired it’s not an option to be awake anymore. The problem is that with nothing else to distract it – TV, the endless scroll of Twitter, or whatever the internet provides – my brain goes, ‘Oh great, I’ve got your attention! Do you remember how shitty your life is? Just in case let’s go it all in detail. Plus remember when you were 12 and you did that thing that PROBABLY RUINED YOUR LIFE FOREVER but you can’t change it now? Let’s go over that a couple of hundred times.’ Until I have an anxiety attack and get my phone to self-soothe with twitter.

    • boogerz
      boogerz
      November 13, 2021 at 10:20 pm | #

      100%, when I’m having a really bad depression episode I do whatever I can to avoid my own thoughts. Not only will I stay up watching youtube until I’m to tired to think, but I’ll also actively avoid getting any REM sleep because I can’t handle my dreams. (for the record I have been officially diagnosed with depression and anxiety by a professional just so you know I’m not pulling this out of my ass)

  13. Nono
    Nono
    November 13, 2021 at 12:12 am | #

    Do you have any idea how relieved I was to check the tags before the comic loaded and there was no Joyce.

    Not because it’s Joyce but the comment sections have made me very tired.

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      November 13, 2021 at 12:14 am | #

      Wise words by wise men type wise things in wise screen.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      November 13, 2021 at 12:16 am | #

      I’m sure we’ll get something discourse inciting within the week.

      • RassilonTDavros
        RassilonTDavros
        November 13, 2021 at 12:23 am | #

        I’m gonna preemptively say that Agatha was completely justified in using Guns’s own gun against her.

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          November 13, 2021 at 12:51 am | #

          Agatha is a perfect angel who has never done anything wrong in her entire life ever, and I will die on this hill.

          • Nono
            Nono
            November 13, 2021 at 1:08 am | #

            The hill of corpses Agatha will leave in her wake.

            • Clif
              Clif
              November 13, 2021 at 2:25 am | #

              To prevent them from becoming zombies, we need Guns control.

        • Thag Simmons
          Thag Simmons
          November 13, 2021 at 12:56 am | #

          If Guns were ever to appear in Dumbing of Age, she probably would be the sort of person who gets people to violently hate her, so this tracks.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      November 13, 2021 at 12:31 am | #

      I always go to sleep before the Joyce arguing starts. Honestly I don’t particularly care enough to have a strong opinion.

      • Agemegos
        Agemegos
        November 13, 2021 at 2:08 am | #

        Unfortunately the strips post in the mid-afternoon where I live.

        • JBento
          JBento
          November 13, 2021 at 6:35 am | #

          The strip posts while I’m asleep. I’m reading it for the first time now and there’s already 122 comments.

      • Edwin I Callahan
        Edwin I Callahan
        November 13, 2021 at 8:21 am | #

        Sometimes I get the feeling some of arguments aren’t about the fictional actions of a fictional character named Joyce Brown. What Joyce is written doing or saying doesn’t threaten the readers’ self-worth or past life choices.

        • Spencer
          Spencer
          November 13, 2021 at 8:30 am | #

          That’s funny, ’cause I’ve been getting the feeling some of the arguments aren’t about the fictional actions of a fictional character named Joyce Brown either, but that manifests for me as “how do you read a character drama without caring about why characters do things” and “she didn’t actually call Becky an idiot, ya palookas.”

          • Clif
            Clif
            November 13, 2021 at 11:44 am | #

            But it’s Joyce’s fault she didn’t show up in Amber’s room so that we could argue about her. All she had to do was walk across the hall.

            Damn you, Joyce Brown!

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      November 13, 2021 at 4:53 am | #

      I’m glad we’ve moved onto a character no one ever got mad at when her catastrophic trauma drove her to act in a way that came at the inconvenience of other people.

      • Agemegos
        Agemegos
        November 13, 2021 at 2:37 pm | #

        It makes a nice change.I like Lucy too.

        • Spencer
          Spencer
          November 13, 2021 at 3:26 pm | #

          I dunno, the comments got pretty heated that time Lucy and Bloodrose fought to the death in the gladiatorial arena.

    • zee
      zee
      November 13, 2021 at 9:43 am | #

      I’ve started hating Joyce, not for anything related to the character but because of what an absolute cesspit the comments become when she pops up

  14. alongcameaspider
    alongcameaspider
    November 13, 2021 at 12:12 am | #

    Ok Amber’s sleep schedule is concerning but also can we talk about Dina’s sweater, I want one

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      November 13, 2021 at 12:15 am | #

      As far as I know, they’re only available at one of Ohio’s Target Stores.

      • David M Willis
        David M Willis
        November 13, 2021 at 12:20 am | #

        https://www.amazon.com/Casual-Dinosaur-Hoodies-Pullover-Sweatshirt/dp/B07XF19Z5C/ref=asc_df_B07XF19Z5C/?tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=459505149096&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=15340615202301385720&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9014879&hvtargid=pla-943237060926&psc=1

        • woobie
          woobie
          November 13, 2021 at 1:48 am | #

          well dayum

        • Amós Batista
          Amós Batista
          November 13, 2021 at 3:45 am | #

          shit, it’s real!!

          • King Daniel
            King Daniel
            November 13, 2021 at 4:13 am | #

            The majority of striking DoA outfits are sourced from real images

            Occasionally, Willis even posts them on Twitter

        • Deanatay
          Deanatay
          November 13, 2021 at 10:58 am | #

          Who knew Dina kept a keen ear to the throbbing heartbeat of dinosaur fashion trends?

          Or maybe she’s a trend-SETTER

          • Clif
            Clif
            November 13, 2021 at 11:47 am | #

            See now, that’s another thing wrong with our world. Not enough dinosaur fashion trends.

        • voidsiren
          voidsiren
          November 13, 2021 at 12:33 pm | #

          well, im now slightly poorer, but at least i’ll have a cool dinosaur hoodie

  15. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    November 13, 2021 at 12:24 am | #

    IT’S A COMIC STRIP, DINA. THEY’RE ALL JOKES.

  16. StClair
    StClair
    November 13, 2021 at 12:27 am | #

    “One sec, killing spiders.”

  17. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    November 13, 2021 at 12:28 am | #

    I love staying awake late at night. I’m basically nocturnal. I’ve pulled many an all nighter unintentionally just getting shit done. The problem is all those DAYTIME PEOPLE trying to make me feel bad for my nocturnal lifestyle. I’M NOT SLEEPING IN! YOU’RE WAKING UP TOO EARLY!

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      November 13, 2021 at 12:31 am | #

      Me too bruh!

      Especially when Toonami’s on!!!

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        November 13, 2021 at 12:33 am | #

        You watch toonami too? I actually do a podcast about it.

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          November 13, 2021 at 12:35 am | #

          Really? I’d absolutely LOVE to check it out!

          • Yotomoe
            Yotomoe
            November 13, 2021 at 12:53 am | #

            So funny story. The leader of our podcast messed up the payment so the podcast isn’t up right now. But I’ll let you know when it is.

            • The Wellerman
              The Wellerman
              November 13, 2021 at 1:01 am | #

              I can hardly wait!

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      November 13, 2021 at 12:33 am | #

      I used to work night shifts for a paper route in highschool and discovered the hardest part of staying up that late is that nothing is really going on.

      • Clif
        Clif
        November 13, 2021 at 2:28 am | #

        Are you not familiar with the Internet?

    • Minim
      Minim
      November 13, 2021 at 4:03 am | #

      I miss the days I was nocturnal. Night time is the best, I love the dark.

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        November 13, 2021 at 4:39 am | #

        Me too. My powers are much stronger in darkness.

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      November 13, 2021 at 4:35 am | #

      Hell yeah, night owls! Seriously, nothing is ever happening during the day because everyone is busy busting their asses for pennies. At night, I get plenty of clients and can play cool video games with all the people I want.

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      November 13, 2021 at 8:30 am | #

      Yeah, I usually stay up very late. I probably should get more sleep, but I have too much that I want to get done, and fortunately my job starts at 1 p.m.

  18. Rabid Rabbit
    Rabid Rabbit
    November 13, 2021 at 12:31 am | #

    Dina. Honey. What in evolution’s name are you wearing?

    Yes, I’ve seen the link Willis posted. The fact it actually exists isn’t a justification. And the fact it has dinosaur spikes only barely helps.

    Maybe if you weren’t wearing the hat, so the color clash wouldn’t be as obvious? Though that is of course unthinkable.

    Anyway, I was happily unaware until now that such hideous color mixes were actually marketed, as opposed to just being what happens when you let kids choose their own clothes. (I’m all in favor of letting kids choose their own clothes. I just also acknowledge that kids generally have absolutely horrible taste. Citation: was a kid once.)

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      November 13, 2021 at 12:35 am | #

      First of all what are you talking about that new hoodie looks splendid.

      Second of all, Dina probably doesn’t attempt to imitate any specific dinosaur ALL the time.

      • Clif
        Clif
        November 13, 2021 at 1:17 am | #

        No one knows what colors the dinosaurs were.

        • Thag Simmons
          Thag Simmons
          November 13, 2021 at 1:44 am | #

          From pigment studies people have managed to deduce the colours of Microraptor, Sinosaurypteryx, Anchiornis, Borealopelta, Psittacosaurus and Archaeopteryx

          • milu
            milu
            November 13, 2021 at 8:44 am | #

            judging by birds today, it’s almost guaranteed some dinosaurs were just extravagantly garish.

          • Clif
            Clif
            November 13, 2021 at 1:02 pm | #

            From pigment studies of what? Not fossils as such. Rock that has been molded by where persistent organic mater used to be has very few surviving pigments. Now there were a few dinosaurs with feathers where a few feathers were preserved in volcanic ash, in China I think, and they were able to look at the melanosomes, is that right? Yes, melanosomes under a scanning microscope, but melanosomes only contribute dull colors. The bright or even garish colors come from carotenoids and porphyrins and such like and there isn’t enough material to help with those. So nobody knows.

            If you have better information, could I ask for a link or two to help me out?

            • King Daniel
              King Daniel
              November 13, 2021 at 1:32 pm | #

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinosaur_coloration

              Here’s a link for ya – tl;dr even with just melanosomes, there’s a lot more that can be inferred from them than you might think.

            • milu
              milu
              November 13, 2021 at 6:47 pm | #

              so this may not be the contribution that you hoped, but i found this hour-long talk pretty riveting, it goes into a detailed explanation of a different technique for detecting melanin in fossils in a synchrotron based on chemical signatures of trace amounts of organic matter. i love how the researcher just consistently and with a completely straight face uses the term “wiggly line” instead of saying curve, as though this makes his talk more accessible, when it’s actually fairly technical ^^

              this question in the follow-up Q&A compares this method and the sort of scanning electron microscope findings that you mentioned Clif.

              that said, do i have an answer regarding the sort of brighter but less likely to be preserved pigments? …no.

              I will say though, that while some of the coloration is derived from inferred melanin type and density, structural coloration has also been observed in fossil feathers and insect scales, meaning coloration produced by the 3D microscopic structures, and i guess this includes brighter colours? Apparently, “peacock tail feathers are pigmented brown, but their microscopic structure makes them also reflect blue, turquoise, and green light, and they are often iridescent.”

              ok i’m brain-drained now but i thought i’d share this much anyway =)

              • Clif
                Clif
                November 14, 2021 at 12:41 am | #

                Thanks to both of you.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      November 13, 2021 at 1:41 am | #

      It’s a hoodie, and it looks fine.

    • Minim
      Minim
      November 13, 2021 at 4:07 am | #

      Really? I think it looks fine. It’s very Dina, she loves anything dinosaur related.

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      November 13, 2021 at 8:32 am | #

      It doesn’t look that bad. In fact, Dina makes it look kinda cute.

    • zee
      zee
      November 13, 2021 at 9:46 am | #

      What color clash? This is a very popular style of color blocking.
      I’m sorry you don’t have fashion sense i guess

      • zee
        zee
        November 13, 2021 at 9:47 am | #

        Like you sound mad pretentious rn

  19. Andy
    Andy
    November 13, 2021 at 12:33 am | #

    One of the things I miss about college is the ability to stay up all night just for the hell of it and function the next day, as well as the ability to sleep until like 1 on the weekends. Being an adult and getting up by 8 at the latest every day kinda sucks.

    • EpochFlame
      EpochFlame
      November 13, 2021 at 12:42 am | #

      amen to that

      • Clif
        Clif
        November 13, 2021 at 2:31 am | #

        Have I told you recently how great retirement is?

        • Agemegos
          Agemegos
          November 13, 2021 at 2:24 pm | #

          Yeah! You can rise at 0530 every morning, hit the beach, and then when bleary-eyed Millennials emerge from their beds at 10:30 to mock the Genex for having left for work at 0800, smugly tell them that they have missed the best part of the day.

          (Then, of course, you eat your dinner at 18:30, and go to bed at nine. But at least you’re asleep while the youngsters are laughing at you.)

  20. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    November 13, 2021 at 12:37 am | #

    I’d say that’s not how depression works, except I think maybe this is depression at work.

  21. Tan
    Tan
    November 13, 2021 at 12:46 am | #

    Dumbing of Age Book 12: Is This Valid Information or a Joke?

    • Clif
      Clif
      November 13, 2021 at 2:34 am | #

      … and we have a winner.

      • King Daniel
        King Daniel
        November 13, 2021 at 3:01 am | #

        I dunno, I’m still partial to “Probably Equal Amounts of Fun As Sitting Alone On a Couch”

        • milu
          milu
          November 13, 2021 at 8:47 am | #

          i thought “Twenty Bucks” was also very fitting. those price tags are so small, sometimes they’re sort of hidden below the barcode, it’s a hassle.

  22. Opus the Poet
    Opus the Poet
    November 13, 2021 at 1:01 am | #

    I spent years working for Far East companies while I lived in TX, and usually went to bed right after work about 5 AM

  23. Hazel
    Hazel
    November 13, 2021 at 1:11 am | #

    Dina is a solid roommate.

  24. DEAD MEME
    DEAD MEME
    November 13, 2021 at 1:18 am | #

    Serious question: is the title a My Chemical Romance reference?

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      November 13, 2021 at 1:37 am | #

      Probably. The majority of the chapter titles are music references in some way.

      • DarkoNeko
        DarkoNeko
        November 13, 2021 at 1:46 am | #

        I’d have gone for Half Life here but sure

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      November 13, 2021 at 3:28 am | #

      I’ve skkiped emo phase, so I didn’t get the reference. I got suprised, because I’ve found some band text when I was using Google to navigate throught here. I guess it’s a new band to listen, huh?

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      November 13, 2021 at 5:07 am | #

      I’m extremely glad that the new Final Fantasy has a scene where the protagonist listens to some anime girl ramble about darkness so he says ‘bullshit’ and then turns his Limp Bizkit playlist on so he can power walk away.

      It was the moment that crystalized that nu-metal is back and I can stop pretending I don’t love it so much.

      • milu
        milu
        November 13, 2021 at 9:16 am | #

        Yes!
        Fantano talked up Bring Me The Horizon a little while ago, and i was like, what the hell, this genre is still a thing?! also i had entirely forgot how hard it slapped?

        and then i was talking music with these 18-year old lads and they were like “psh BMTH is just trashy fake metal” and i was like, wow, that also didn’t change, ok

        anyway, link to some recent nu-metal thing you enjoyed, that’s right i want recs, i want you to wreck me with your recs

        • Spencer
          Spencer
          November 13, 2021 at 9:30 am | #

          Oh I’m dyed in the wool 00s type, sorry.

          I don’t pay attention to new things, and music’s more of a vibe to me than something I actively follow.

          • milu
            milu
            November 13, 2021 at 11:09 am | #

            ah i see, music fashionistas like me going wild over gen X nu-metal is your alibi for blasting Rollin’ and A.D.I.D.A.S. and Chop Suey like its 2001

            well, you know, glad i could help =)

            • Spencer
              Spencer
              November 13, 2021 at 12:13 pm | #

              I do actually like Chop Suey.

              Or that one song that comes to mind when thinking of them. I probably know more game and animation OSTs than I do actual musicians.

              • milu
                milu
                November 13, 2021 at 1:20 pm | #

                oh i wasn’t dissing, i think Chop Suey is an absolute classic. they put it on at the climbing gym last i went and i just had to sing along with the chorus, i was hanging on by two digits and a toe but i didn’t have the option not to, it was epic

                actual chop suey, i don’t think i’ve ever tasted.

  25. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    November 13, 2021 at 1:45 am | #

    7h40 is way too early to be awake on a suturday morning ; also, awesome dinosweater dina

  26. AY
    AY
    November 13, 2021 at 2:18 am | #

    alright this is totally unrelated to the comic but a friend once gifted me the same kind of sweater dina is wearing and it didn’t fit. still sad lmao.

    • brute
      brute
      November 13, 2021 at 3:07 am | #

      🙁 my sympatheties

      • brute
        brute
        November 13, 2021 at 3:07 am | #

        dorothy would never make such a silly typo, what have i done?

        • Fist_of_Life
          Fist_of_Life
          November 13, 2021 at 6:18 am | #

          Typo? That’s not a typo. You’ve merely invented a new word. What’s its definition?

          • milu
            milu
            November 13, 2021 at 9:29 am | #

            sympathies, but with confetti?

            • Clif
              Clif
              November 13, 2021 at 1:32 pm | #

              Symp or sympa (not to be confused with sempa) is to be in harmony with, leading to words like sympathy and symphony. Theties was a sea goddess, personification of the sea, mother of Achilles. SempaTheties is therefor brute expressing a desire that everyone who has lost a cute sweater should all live in harmony with the sea.

              Dorothy would approve.

  27. Sol
    Sol
    November 13, 2021 at 2:37 am | #

    That final panel Amber reeaaaally looks like a brunette Dorothy.

    I know *in universe* mention of it has been made before but for the longest time they were very distinct.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      November 13, 2021 at 4:06 am | #

      I don’t know, they aren’t just pallet swapped versions of each other. Amber’s hair is longer and Dorothy’s chin is more round.

      • Sol
        Sol
        November 13, 2021 at 5:56 pm | #

        Not saying that they’re palette swapped, just something is making her look different. It’s more her expression, I think, something about it just makes me think “Dorothy”.

  28. Amós Batista
    Amós Batista
    November 13, 2021 at 3:30 am | #

    I got confused about Dina’s shirt, at same time I loved the colors and really considering using it.

    • Clif
      Clif
      November 13, 2021 at 1:34 pm | #

      Confused? How so?

      • Clif
        Clif
        November 13, 2021 at 1:38 pm | #

        Yay! We have achieved Booster. Jacob and Lucy to go.

  29. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    November 13, 2021 at 5:09 am | #

    I’m sorry for Amber. She’s sinking deeper and deeper into her world of madness. Probably even more now than when she spent nights as AmaziGirl. Dina is right to be worried.

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      November 13, 2021 at 5:56 am | #

      Nah, that’s just the kind of gingerbread you’d hear from the baloney man!

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        November 13, 2021 at 7:35 am | #

        Oh boy, the baloneym’n! I’ll get the sandwich that’s shaped like there’s a bite taken out of it!

        https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jPno9bR_Bo4

    • Clif
      Clif
      November 13, 2021 at 1:41 pm | #

      Possible, but more likely she stayed up all night killing spiders or hacking into the Chinese supercomputer.

  30. Carla's #2 Fan
    Carla's #2 Fan
    November 13, 2021 at 6:31 am | #

    I really hope Dina asks someone else about this so that she can get some proper information before trying to help Amber. Cause Amber needs some help, but she’s not going to give Dina a head start.

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      November 13, 2021 at 7:57 am | #

      This is actually pretty good progress for Dina. She’s been really accepting of Amber’s statements on her grievous mental state (which is probably compounded by how Amber being Like That led to her saving Becky’s life), but this is the first time she’s ever questioned her.

  31. JBento
    JBento
    November 13, 2021 at 6:40 am | #

    I just want to say I really appreciate Willis’s attention to detail on that third panel there, with Dina’s ballooning as she puts on the hoodie. It’d would’ve been easier to just give her normal hair and no-one would notice, but Willis goes the extra mile.

  32. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    November 13, 2021 at 7:37 am | #

    Wait a minute, didn’t sleep deprivation bring out Brain!Mike last time?

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      November 13, 2021 at 10:21 am | #

      In the sense that it may well have been the sleep deprivation that put Amazi-girl off her game enough for her not to be able to handle Blaine and Ross.

      • JBento
        JBento
        November 13, 2021 at 10:29 am | #

        Yeah, I was under the impression that brain!Mike was just the equivalent of Amber’s brain shouting at her and waving the very important report it really really reaaalllly needs her to read.

        • King Daniel
          King Daniel
          November 13, 2021 at 12:08 pm | #

          We saw Brain!Mike as late as directly after Ross was murdered and later in the hospital outside Mike’s room too, so it wasn’t just that.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        November 13, 2021 at 10:30 am | #

        I mean when we saw him as Amaziber was making her way through Robin’s Uggtroopers to warn Becky about the kidnapping situation.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          November 13, 2021 at 10:32 am | #

          This strip and the one after it:

          https://www.dumbingofage.com/2020/comic/book-10/03-when-it-crumbles/operating/

  33. thumb
    thumb
    November 13, 2021 at 7:41 am | #

    aha! Can’t get tell if I’m depressed (or feeling anything else) when I completely break my brain. Checkmate, fools!

    • milu
      milu
      November 13, 2021 at 9:32 am | #

      later: oh no it turns out depression is a kind of brain breakage not a feeling. dammit

  34. Alex
    Alex
    November 13, 2021 at 7:49 am | #

    It’s sweet that Dina is looking out for Amber like this.

  35. C Harrison Fuller
    C Harrison Fuller
    November 13, 2021 at 7:52 am | #

    Glad Dina is doing her best to looks out for Amber.

  36. nightshade
    nightshade
    November 13, 2021 at 7:56 am | #

    heh she forgets the short term psychotic break one gets on about day 4 where you hallucinate …. by day 6 after wandering around town the local PD is taking you into the er where you are given a rather shot of an opiate so you can pass out and 48 hours later on friday you can ask mom what happened because you don’t much remember anything past Tuesday night

    why yes im personally acquainted with chronic insominia ……

    • misanthropope
      misanthropope
      November 13, 2021 at 9:55 am | #

      never stayed up long enough for hallucinations, but i do know that after 72 hours i lose all ability to communicate in spoken or written words. right around hour 100 i can no longer solve math problems and am at that point, by several accounts “a perfect angel”.

  37. milu
    milu
    November 13, 2021 at 9:45 am | #

    my brain: mhahaha you will never fall sleep i will make sure of that
    me: ok i’ll just play video games until i pass out
    my brain: ……..valid

  38. zee
    zee
    November 13, 2021 at 9:51 am | #

    Ah, it’s nice having a comment section i can scroll though in 10 minutes and continue with my day

    • zee
      zee
      November 13, 2021 at 9:51 am | #

      Also I’m tired of Carla and want sal back so grav roulette

      • zee
        zee
        November 13, 2021 at 9:52 am | #

        Love you but nah

        • zee
          zee
          November 13, 2021 at 9:53 am | #

          (something about being the world’s horniest aspec)

          • zee
            zee
            November 13, 2021 at 9:54 am | #

            Close but hair’s too short

            • zee
              zee
              November 13, 2021 at 9:54 am | #

              NEE

              • zee
                zee
                November 13, 2021 at 9:55 am | #

                Why do i keep rolling dudes
                Last one so i don’t get banned

                • milu
                  milu
                  November 13, 2021 at 10:46 am | #

                  i guess you’re Joe, now, hi Joe =)

    • Rocket Relm
      Rocket Relm
      November 13, 2021 at 4:57 pm | #

      You could just choose to stop at ten minutes, whether there are more comments or not.

  39. Robert
    Robert
    November 13, 2021 at 11:25 am | #

    I think Amber is getting the definitions of “Depression” “Desperation” and “Deprivation” all mixed up.

  40. TheKelliestKelly
    TheKelliestKelly
    November 13, 2021 at 12:11 pm | #

    Ah, this brings me back to the height of my depression/mental illness. Sometimes in high school, I would stay up really late because I couldn’t bear to go to sleep and have the next day come even sooner

  41. DudeMyDadOwnsaDealership
    DudeMyDadOwnsaDealership
    November 13, 2021 at 12:17 pm | #

    Lack of sleep causes insanity, Amber………Or is that the plan?

  42. Smooti
    Smooti
    November 13, 2021 at 2:43 pm | #

    … Dina, I feel like if you’re just now asking you haven’t been paying a lot of attention.

  43. Moonie
    Moonie
    November 13, 2021 at 4:25 pm | #

    Dina rocking the colorblock sleeves

  44. Bagge
    Bagge
    November 13, 2021 at 11:56 pm | #

    #Lifehack

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