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Burden

by David M Willis on January 8, 2022 at 12:01 am
  • 02 – I'll Leave You A Phantom
└ Tags: amber, joe

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  1. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    January 8, 2022 at 12:05 am | #

    That was well said Joe, I’m proud of you. This whole thing has gone much better than I expected.

    • Clif
      Clif
      January 8, 2022 at 1:07 am | #

      Well, better than his offer to Sarah. But now Amber has agreed to carry Joyce. This will definitely end well.

    • Twitcher
      Twitcher
      January 8, 2022 at 6:12 am | #

      I needed this. The seventh anniversary of my mom’s death is a little over a month away. She mentioned me in her suicide note; she was worried I’d break down if not told gently that she’d killed herself. I still think I could’ve stopped her had I been more present in the situation. I don’t know what I should hold onto, but I’m trying to figure out what direction to go.

      • Miri
        Miri
        January 8, 2022 at 11:53 am | #

        I’m so sorry.

        Perhaps that even in the depths of her despair and hopelessness, she loved you, wanted you to be OK, thought that there was a way to break it gently so the news would hurt you less, and belief that you would find the strength and courage to live your life without her?

        • Twitcher
          Twitcher
          January 8, 2022 at 1:06 pm | #

          Probably. She had untreated borderline personality disorder and bipolar disorder. When she was manic, she could be an awful person, but she also loved my family and I. She could be emotionally manipulative like Willis’s mom and rarely apologized, but I loved her.

  2. The Wellerman
    The Wellerman
    January 8, 2022 at 12:05 am | #

    It feels so good to see her laugh 🥲

    She hasn’t done that in a long time.

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      January 8, 2022 at 12:08 am | #

      Indeed, it is nice to see a smile on her face, even if it wasn’t for very long. Them becoming siblings might be a great thing after all.

  3. Cool Sang
    Cool Sang
    January 8, 2022 at 12:05 am | #

    I can’t decide if this is good advice or not but boy I think it might be!

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      January 8, 2022 at 12:09 am | #

      Even if it isn’t the best advice, it got her to smile which is a great thimg.

    • alongcameaspider
      alongcameaspider
      January 8, 2022 at 12:13 am | #

      It’s better then anyone else has offered Amber so far imo

      Even if it’s not perfect it’s definitely better then what she’s been doing

    • Moon
      Moon
      January 8, 2022 at 12:13 am | #

      idk but it’s raw as fuck

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      January 8, 2022 at 12:18 am | #

      It’s good advice.

    • Shen Hibiki
      Shen Hibiki
      January 8, 2022 at 7:35 am | #

      I’d say it’s good advice. Telling people to move on is usually like telling someone to “calm down” when they’re stressed, or “stop crying” when they are.
      I feel that “hold on to what you need to but keep walking” is a bit… easier, and a step in the right direction, rather than asking them to solve it all in one swoop.

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      January 8, 2022 at 8:57 am | #

      It seems like pretty good advice to me.

  4. C.T. Phipps
    C.T. Phipps
    January 8, 2022 at 12:07 am | #

    Ironically, Mike of all people would tell her, “You absolutely should move on from me.”

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      January 8, 2022 at 12:10 am | #

      I wonder how all this is going to affect HeadMike and Amber’s reactions to him.

      • Walky_Talky
        Walky_Talky
        January 8, 2022 at 12:08 pm | #

        He’s going to start appearing and talking to Joe now too. Because he’s a ghost who was haunting Amber and Joe has just decided to take on part of that burden.

        Although that could possibly mean that Joe will be waking up to ghostly teabagging in the near future.

        • Miri
          Miri
          January 8, 2022 at 12:09 pm | #

          Yep, ghostly teabagging is probably how he’ll find out about him.

      • Miri
        Miri
        January 8, 2022 at 12:08 pm | #

        It’s cool. Joe’s going to wake up in the morning to find he has received Head Mike.

        • Roborat
          Roborat
          January 10, 2022 at 3:06 pm | #

          Guess that is better than waking up receiving Mike head.

    • Axel_Grease
      Axel_Grease
      January 8, 2022 at 9:23 am | #

      But with a side note of knowing it would make her feel worse.

  5. MK15
    MK15
    January 8, 2022 at 12:11 am | #

    Joe’s actually a pretty good brother. In his own way, of course, but maybe the way Amber needs.

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      January 8, 2022 at 12:12 am | #

      I think it might be exactly what she neess to hear. Not someone to push her prpblems onto or hide her problems, but someone to simply make it weigh less heavily on her.

    • Wizard
      Wizard
      January 8, 2022 at 5:06 am | #

      Honestly, I think Joe’s being his best self here. Or at the very least, he could be a lot worse.
      And as for freezing, it’s currently in the teens here in Hoosierland. Two weeks ago, it was fricking seventy Fahrenheit on Christmas day. I would say “WTF?”, but a lifetime in Indiana has left me deluded into thinking this is normal.

  6. The Wellerman
    The Wellerman
    January 8, 2022 at 12:13 am | #

    Seriously though if I don’t find out where she got that shirt of hers, I’m gonna go BANANAS 🙄

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      January 8, 2022 at 12:14 am | #

      What shirt is she wearing?

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        January 8, 2022 at 12:15 am | #

        That yellow one. So simple yet so sleek.

    • anon
      anon
      January 8, 2022 at 12:43 am | #

      well arm stripes aside it just looks like a plain yellow shirt you can prolly buy online, and the blue part is a separate sleeveless hoodie. (tho i think isaw a post saying willis used online references for outfit designs so maybe there are some stores you can use to find similar clothes lol [tho i guess, other than a pastel or a pattern, yellow isn’t that popular of a shirt color?])

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      January 8, 2022 at 6:11 am | #

      Most of the cast’s outfits seem to be based on stuff Willis finds at a nearby Target or Meijer. If you’re in the Midwest at all, try walking around the nearest block and you’ll probably bump into one. Of course, department stores tend to cycle their clothes pretty often, so it may be either sold out or just rotated out by now. If you’re willing to brave it, you could also search those stores’ websites and hope the terrible layout coughs up a result that can either be delivered or picked up. Naturally, if you’d rather not expend quite so much energy hunting down a shirt like it’s an 18-point buck, you can probably find something comparable on any given clothes site.

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        January 8, 2022 at 6:34 am | #

        Eh, I have better stuff to do, but I still want the shirt.

        Hmmm….

        OK next person to shoot me a link to Amber’s shirt gets a free pixel art commission!!! 😉

        • Daeranilen
          Daeranilen
          January 8, 2022 at 8:19 am | #

          This is out of stock but fairly close. You’re looking for a yellow women’s football tee, specifically a style with longer, striped sleeves; any combo of keywords there should help you find something you’ll like. https://www.torrid.com/product/v-neck-football-tee—vintage-burnout-yellow/13632692.html

          • The Wellerman
            The Wellerman
            January 8, 2022 at 5:02 pm | #

            Uh… ya want the commission now or…

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            January 8, 2022 at 6:46 pm | #

            That looks a lot like the shirt Becky wore a couple chapters ago.

            https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-11/05-as-long-as-its-free/cake-2/

  7. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    January 8, 2022 at 12:15 am | #

    They’re good siblings. Cute.

  8. Regalli
    Regalli
    January 8, 2022 at 12:15 am | #

    That went remarkably well, Joe.

    Amber’s brothers are pretty great at helping her move a little step forward when she really needs it, aren’t they? (And will almost inevitably ruin it after, but hey.)

  9. Audkitten
    Audkitten
    January 8, 2022 at 12:18 am | #

    I love the Amber and Joe sibling dynamic

  10. Leorale
    Leorale
    January 8, 2022 at 12:20 am | #

    He sounds just like my mom

    For a nickel. But really he does.

  11. BBCC
    BBCC
    January 8, 2022 at 12:22 am | #

    That’s a good way to handle it when you can’t or don’t want to move on, carry it in a direction. I like that.

  12. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    January 8, 2022 at 12:24 am | #

    The fortunes of fables are able to sing the song
    Now witness the quickness with which we get along
    To sing the blues you’ve got to live the dues and Carry On
    –CSNY

    • Steelbright
      Steelbright
      January 8, 2022 at 2:57 am | #

      wow, i’ve listened to that song so many times that i was singing it in my head
      by the 1st 4 words…before i even figured out what it was. ahhh CSNY quotes

    • Geneseepaws
      Geneseepaws
      January 8, 2022 at 3:00 am | #

      You can sing a happy song if you’re glad,
      You can sing a protest song if you’re mad,
      But if you wanna sing the blues?
      Boy you got to learn how to lose, if you wanna sing the blues.
      D. Bromberg, RIP

  13. Jay
    Jay
    January 8, 2022 at 12:24 am | #

    Wait is Joe a…. DECENT BROTHER!?

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      January 8, 2022 at 12:25 am | #

      He’s not a bad one.

    • Nono
      Nono
      January 8, 2022 at 12:28 am | #

      Good brother, bad wingman. Everything balanced out.

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        January 8, 2022 at 12:47 am | #

        I’d go so far as saying terrible wingman.

  14. Doopyboop
    Doopyboop
    January 8, 2022 at 12:28 am | #

    Oh man, Amber in panel 4…

    I know for some people, it must be an odd concept. Why wouldn’t Amber want to move on from this death, especially of a person like Mike? Shouldn’t she WANT to move on with her life? In truth, grief is a lot more complicated than ‘getting over’ and ‘moving on’. I lost my mother in April, and there was a period of time where I felt like Amber in panel 4. I didn’t WANT to move on, because it felt like if I did, if I felt better, if I started to adjust to this new life without my mom, it’d become more real. And I’d be that much closer to this new life without her.

    It felt as if entrenching myself in my grief for her was the only way to keep her around. To prove that I loved her, to prove she existed. Grief is a process and you just have to find your own way, at your own pace. What Joe said is right. You don’t have to move on and forget someone who has passed, but you do need to carry on in whatever way suits you best, and when you are comfortable. I think about my mom most every day, and I try to do things I know she enjoyed.

    • BigDogLittleCat
      BigDogLittleCat
      January 8, 2022 at 12:30 am | #

      I’m sorry for your loss. It is a process and we each go through it our own way. Take care of yourself.

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      January 8, 2022 at 12:37 am | #

      Take care of yourself slick. And thanks for sharing this.

    • misanthropope
      misanthropope
      January 8, 2022 at 1:32 am | #

      that feeling where the sun coming up the next morning is a deliberate insult from the universe. seriously, how dare you, i will fucking cut you. the sun, i mean. not you.

    • Axel_Grease
      Axel_Grease
      January 8, 2022 at 9:21 am | #

      Anyone who’s lost someone understands that moving on can feel like a betrayal.

      • Miri
        Miri
        January 8, 2022 at 12:23 pm | #

        My daughter’s feeling like that over my grandfather’s death 🙁 That she can’t be happy or imagine life without him without it being a betrayal… She’s just turned 7… It’s hard seeing her hating on herself for being human and sometimes being happy 🙁

    • The Quirk
      The Quirk
      January 8, 2022 at 9:38 am | #

      When we lost my mother, it felt like “moving on” would be a betrayal of her. And it doesn’t matter how many times someone says, “She’d WANT you to move on.”

    • Twitcher
      Twitcher
      January 8, 2022 at 1:38 pm | #

      I’m sorry for your loss. I, too, know that feel. What helps you to process?

  15. Rose Red
    Rose Red
    January 8, 2022 at 12:37 am | #

    Don’t remember where I read it, but a badly paraphrased because I don’t remember it quote from my childhood that stuck with me –

    when you share your joy with a loved one, the amount of joy in the world doubles so you can each keep it – when you share your pain with a loved one, you each carry half of it – so share things with people you love, and don’t try to hide your pain until you break.

    • Geneseepaws
      Geneseepaws
      January 8, 2022 at 3:02 am | #

      That is wonderful advice.

  16. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    January 8, 2022 at 12:40 am | #

    I love these two as siblings. It really works well.

    I do really hope that if Richard blows it, and I hope he doesn’t, that the two would keep it going as siblings, even if it wasn’t official anymore.

  17. Wack'd
    Wack'd
    January 8, 2022 at 12:44 am | #

    joe’s stubble has spread to his ears

  18. Meagan
    Meagan
    January 8, 2022 at 12:48 am | #

    Aw, Joe is such a good brother here.

  19. Hazel
    Hazel
    January 8, 2022 at 12:53 am | #

    Damn, Joe is really being an excellent brother here. Really good siblinging from a guy who has only been one for a scant few months.

    • Samantha
      Samantha
      January 8, 2022 at 1:18 am | #

      Right this is actually pretty impressive. It’s supportive and he’s not making light of it and I can actually see this sort of working. She needs much more help than this. BUt this a good thing for her to hear I think

  20. Yumi
    Yumi
    January 8, 2022 at 12:53 am | #

    Nnnnnn, a sweet strip? Between Amber and Joe? My heart.

  21. Opus the Poet
    Opus the Poet
    January 8, 2022 at 12:54 am | #

    Yeah, Joe is being a decent human being and all, but neither of them is dressed for the weather and it is cold outside with sneaux on the ground. They need to get their butts inside before hypothermia sets in.

  22. michaelinasmeal
    michaelinasmeal
    January 8, 2022 at 12:57 am | #

    Tonight Amber gonna be working on her “Help me stepbrother I’m stuck in my own head” Joe siscon fanfic

  23. RacingTurtle
    RacingTurtle
    January 8, 2022 at 1:13 am | #

    Hmm, how should Amber carry Joe’s issues? She could try getting a song stuck in her head. When Joe was younger, he watched Richard cry and curse at the wind. He’d broke his own heart, and Joe watched as he tried to reassemble it. And Karen swore that she would never let herself forget. That was the day Joe promised that he’d never speak of love if it does not exist. Unfortunately,
    Joyce is the only exception

    • zee
      zee
      January 8, 2022 at 11:33 am | #

      What

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        January 8, 2022 at 12:05 pm | #

        It’s an extended reference to a song.

        • Twitcher
          Twitcher
          January 8, 2022 at 1:36 pm | #

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J7J_IWUhls

          [Verse 1]
          When I was younger I saw my daddy cry
          And curse at the wind
          He broke his own heart and I watched
          As he tried to reassemble it
          And my momma swore that she would
          Never let herself forget
          And that was the day that I promised
          I’d never sing of love if it does not exist

          • alongcameaspider
            alongcameaspider
            January 8, 2022 at 4:50 pm | #

            I forget where I heard this from but I heard the singer hates this song because the guy she wrote it about turned out to be a huge asshole

      • RacingTurtle
        RacingTurtle
        January 9, 2022 at 2:32 am | #

        Hah, sorry, yes. My comment was brought to you by a combination of Benadryl and having had The Only Exception stuck in my head for a week. Thank you, Yumi and Twitcher, for explaining

  24. Bluewind
    Bluewind
    January 8, 2022 at 1:33 am | #

    *supportively claps at developments*

  25. WanderingLynx
    WanderingLynx
    January 8, 2022 at 2:09 am | #

    Joe’s line is indeed raw as hell and something I wish I’d been told. I’m glad Amber isn’t pushing him away like at first (feels like it was so long ago :’3). Look at her laughing!

    They have a really sweet dynamic and ffffyea, thank you I needed the wholesome

  26. Joyfulldreams
    Joyfulldreams
    January 8, 2022 at 2:16 am | #

    God Joe get with the program you’re a good person already. You’re a good person who cares about people’s feelings and gives good advice and is good at listening??? It happened out of nowhere but guess what, just like Joyce is capable of getting better and better despite starting out in a shit place doing shit things, so are you. You’ve gotten much better despite your many attempts to not. You’re worthy of Joyce.

    • Joyfulldreams
      Joyfulldreams
      January 8, 2022 at 2:19 am | #

      (And before anyone says anything feeling worthy of someone is not the same as feeling entitled to them OKAY.)

    • Eldritchy
      Eldritchy
      January 8, 2022 at 7:49 am | #

      It helps that Joyce has been tanking her Good Person points for a while now.

      • Spencer
        Spencer
        January 8, 2022 at 12:56 pm | #

        Yeah, she was prettier when she smiled.

        • Carms
          Carms
          January 9, 2022 at 12:07 am | #

          /s?

      • Joyfulldreams
        Joyfulldreams
        January 8, 2022 at 3:04 pm | #

        Considering Joe seems to be LITERALLY the only person right now capable of showing Joyce any real empathy for her struggles with her faith, I don’t think Joe cares about all that shit.

        He knows that above all Joyce is a constant work in progress, that she will keep trying to do the right thing no matter how stubborn she SEEMS to be at the moment, and she will come out of the end of this transition an even better person than before. While everyone else seems to be dismissing her outright, or getting on her case for daring to change or make mistakes, this probably just reinforces Joe’s affection and admiration for her.

        And it’s not like he gives her a pass either, but all of his criticism seems to come first and foremost from a place of concern about HER. Such as when he told her not to swear here: https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-11/05-as-long-as-its-free/exist/ Which he said not because he gives a fuck about Joyce swearing, but because HE knows that swearing only when it really matters is something that Joyce previous cared about a lot: https://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-4/01-the-only-dope-for-me-is-you/word/

        And when Joe first learned about Joyce’s changing beliefs, his first reaction was ‘hey, that’s like, a HUGE deal, right?’, acknowledging that this is a big thing that she’s chosen to confide in him about, but then compassionately choosing not to make an even BIGGER deal about it by caring more about his own feelings in response than hers. https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-11/03-see-you-in-the-funny-page/shackles/

        In other news, I ship JoJo like wildfire.

        • Spencer
          Spencer
          January 8, 2022 at 3:45 pm | #

          yeh

          ‘Cause if we want to talk Authorial Intent and The Moral Of The Story, it feels pretty danged Authorially Intentional that no one in the last three months has asked Joyce how she’s feeling or what brought all this about.

          I’m absolutely going to do that thing where I highlight how The Character I Like is good and The Character I Don’t Like is bad, but upon finding out Joyce is an atheist, the very first thing these two said was:

          Joe asking her if it was a big deal.

          Dorothy telling her to think if she was rushing into fast and should ease herself in with “a nice deism.’

          where were you when Joe was better at this than Dorothy

          • Joyfulldreams
            Joyfulldreams
            January 8, 2022 at 5:22 pm | #

            NO. YOU’RE WRONG. Dorothy’s FIRST reaction to finding out Joyce was an atheist was ‘this was more disappointing than you skipping class’, like. Yeah, OBVIOUSLY the situation wasn’t ideal, but like, Joyce probably KNEW Dorothy would react weirdly and that’s why she didn’t confide in Dorothy of her own volition like she did with Joe!!

            Like Joyce already KNEW who was safe to confide in, and both Becky AND Dorothy were clearly stamped as ‘Not Safe’. Sarah and Joe were, so she calmly and casually told them about it instead of it being this whole drama, and it was fine. (Sarah later totally fucking ruined it but like whatever, at least her first initial reaction was relatively neutral and nonjudgmental. For her, anyway.)

            So obviously part of this drama is caused by Joyce holding things back, if she’d worked up the courage to just tell at LEAST Dorothy in a calm way (cause the conversation would never have gone well with Becky no matter how calm and collected Joyce was), then perhaps all of this extra drama and doubling down could have been avoided. But this is dumbing of age not smarting of age and also yknow what it’s her right to choose who she wants to tell and who not. She shouldn’t HAVE to work up the courage, this should not have been a big deal to start with.

  27. Heather
    Heather
    January 8, 2022 at 2:46 am | #

    Prediction: in the epilogue set years in the future Joe is a therapist.

    • Sprite less Auntie
      Sprite less Auntie
      January 8, 2022 at 10:51 am | #

      Business partners with Booster maybe.

  28. Steelbright
    Steelbright
    January 8, 2022 at 2:54 am | #

    Wow. That was kinda fuckin beautiful

  29. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    January 8, 2022 at 3:41 am | #

    Joe can get deep when he wants to.

    … Yes, that way too.

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      January 8, 2022 at 4:44 am | #

      Joe better be careful he doesn’t delve too greedily and too deep

      • Keulen
        Keulen
        January 8, 2022 at 9:01 am | #

        As long as he doesn’t awaken any Balrogs I think he might be ok.

  30. Queezle
    Queezle
    January 8, 2022 at 4:08 am | #

    That was surprisingly heart-warming.
    I think I like the dynamic between the two of them. It was good to see Amber laugh and smile. I hope she will be able to help Joe in return.
    But it seems that just talking about it already helped a little.

  31. Amós Batista
    Amós Batista
    January 8, 2022 at 4:33 am | #

    I wish I could see Joe transformation. He were always proud to be shallow…

  32. Minkey93
    Minkey93
    January 8, 2022 at 5:18 am | #

    In Amber’s terms, Joe’s Pokemon hidden ability would be “Decent Human Being”

  33. TallPacked
    TallPacked
    January 8, 2022 at 5:44 am | #

    What world is this now where I love Joe but hate everyone else

  34. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    January 8, 2022 at 6:07 am | #

    Sweet Joe♡. That was so nice to propose.

  35. RedCat
    RedCat
    January 8, 2022 at 7:44 am | #

    Huh. Where’s Ana, are they okay? They’re usually the first comment every comic.

  36. Spencer
    Spencer
    January 8, 2022 at 8:29 am | #

    At this point I don’t think Joe is someone who had to learn, where he says he’s “bad at feelings” and then bullrushes in with a truckload of empathy.

    I actually think this is the real Joe, and we just never saw it because his character for the first half of the series was exclusively placed in scenarios where he’d act on his ideas of toxic masculinity and objectifying the women around him. Helping Joyce while she was at her parents’ was the first crack, but then it shattered upon learning what he was making Joyce feel acting the way he did.

    Since then he’s been in scenarios that let him share his thoughts, and at worst he’s been blunt, at best he’s how he’s been acting to Amber and Joyce; they’re hurting and he dolls out emotional support in a way that almost feels practiced.

    I wonder if prior to his parents’ divorce, Joe was just like this all the time and it was them and his throwing himself into his toxic vision of masculinity, relationships and sex that led him crafting a persona of Fun No Feelings Sex Bro. Not that Joe wasn’t that guy, but more like he only started acting like it because of his own emotional turmoil and now that he’s given it up, that persona is gone.

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      January 8, 2022 at 8:30 am | #

      doles out

      And there is my daily spelling error. Better luck tomorrow.

    • Axel_Grease
      Axel_Grease
      January 8, 2022 at 9:18 am | #

      It makes sense that he was more empathetic in the past, or I don’t think Danny would have kept up the friendship for all these years.

      • RassilonTDavros
        RassilonTDavros
        January 8, 2022 at 2:05 pm | #

        Now you’re making me really hope we get a flashback to Joe’s childhood at some point, like we’ve gotten for Amber, Sal, and Joyce. Seeing how he met Danny would be really enlightening.

        • Axel_Grease
          Axel_Grease
          January 8, 2022 at 4:35 pm | #

          Possibly it’s wholesome, but maybe Joe was already displaying aspects of toxic masculinity that Danny mistook for confidence.

  37. Nicoleandmaggie
    Nicoleandmaggie
    January 8, 2022 at 8:58 am | #

    My Joe + Dorothy ship just got a little more realistic.

  38. davidbreslin101
    davidbreslin101
    January 8, 2022 at 10:14 am | #

    Bleedin’ ‘eck, Joe, when did you become all wise and mature?

  39. ziggy78eog
    ziggy78eog
    January 8, 2022 at 1:43 pm | #

    Look at Joe, being all mature, and nurturing like. Good for you, Joe, you definitely are best brother.

  40. Bagge
    Bagge
    January 8, 2022 at 4:10 pm | #

    Profound.

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      January 8, 2022 at 5:07 pm | #

      Profoundeez nutz

  41. Cmd1095
    Cmd1095
    January 8, 2022 at 5:23 pm | #

    Joe I’m so freaking proud of you… is that weird…? Being proud of a fictional character? Idk but I am in this moment.

  42. Sombrero
    Sombrero
    January 8, 2022 at 6:11 pm | #

    It’s all well and good that Joe extracts a smile (a laugh!) from Amber, but his “trade and carry” metaphor has very short legs. Anyway, it would be endlessly funny if Ghost Mike migrated to Joe’s head.

  43. Deadjolras
    Deadjolras
    January 8, 2022 at 7:46 pm | #

    My gravatar says that Joe is actually good at Feelings and he has a right to be smug about it.

  44. CJ
    CJ
    January 8, 2022 at 8:30 pm | #

    Wow, Joe giving out wisdom an earnestly wanting to help Amber? I’m impressed.

    The current poll needs another option: wrong question.

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