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I could not possibly agree more. I’d had apnea (undiagnosed) for at least a decade before getting a CPAP at age 35. Before, I was exhausted all the time, but thought it was normal. Any time I would sit still for more than 90 seconds, I’d nod off. My snoring was off the charts.
My wife convinced me to have a sleep study. Turns out my O2 got so low a few times they considered waking me up, but I would eventually gasp and start breathing. They informed me I would NOT be sleeping another night without a CPAP.
The second night of the study, wearing the CPAP, I crashed straight down into delta-level sleep and stayed there for nine hours. Didn’t so much as budge. When I awoke, the difference was just STARK. Felt like I’d been given a B12 shot. I was amazed that this was how I was supposed to feel normally.
So, yeah. By all means, get a sleep study. Do it soon.
Been there, done that. Can’t imagine sleeping overnight without my mask on… although I have sometimes put up the footrest and rocked back the La-Z-Boy while watching TV, and next thing I know it’s a hour or so later.
Suggest you try to get by with a nasal mask only rather than one that covers both the nose and the mouth, if possible.
Honestly best decision I ever made. Shame I’m on the downslope again. I’ve had adenoids and tonsils done, inferior turbinate reduction and septoplasty to try and make my face/nose more useful, plus the introduction of a CPAP. Worked great for about the first two years post-surgery, but now the soft palate is weaking again and the machine can’t always push through the apnea. But when we bump up the pressure, I instead wake up 3 times a night bloated with a stomach full of air and horrible cramping. Weak refluxy oseophagus valves, woo.
Apparently it was just not in my design to live long lmao. I just miss sleep and energy D:
I had insomnia for five months and it turns out the way around it was to go back to doing the things that are “improper sleep hygiene” like stare bleary-eyed at my laptop in bed for an hour until I shut it off, roll over, and go to sleep.
I used to get consistent bouts of insane insomnia. I’m talking about 4 hours of sleep every 36 hours if it was good and about 4 hours of sleep every 72ish hours when it was bad. It got bad enough at one point that I started hallucinating. Not even double the normal dose of sleep meds would put me out. I don’t normally drink, but I tried to drink myself unconscious at one point. Fortunately 6 Mike’s Hard Lemonades didn’t do the trick =)
I eventually eliminated most caffeine from my diet. No caffeinated soda, coffee only a few times a year, less tea, no change in chocolate. I’ve had a couple of bad weeks since, but never anything as extreme as before making the switch.
Keeping a fairly consistent sleep/wake schedule has also helped a LOT. No sleeping in on weekends, I avoid napping. Getting a consistent dose of sunlight in the mornings has helped as well.
I feel your pain I used to be on a sort of watch list from age 9 tp 1bout 30 where if I was out after 11 pm the local sheriffs would do a check to make sure I wasn’t walking around hallucinating because I was on little to no sleep ….. when I was 12 I was up for 6 days nd the er gave me a shot of something that I slept for 2 days …… the sad thing is now I’m so used 4 to maybe 5 hours a night I just stay up until I pass out …..
I read somewhere that bicyclic sleep was natural for human in a lot of scenarios so if it works for you there might not be anything wrong with that. Based on “something i read” at least. Could be worth looking into
Also I think morning and night people is definitely a thing. I feel like heck if i sleep past 7am regardless of how much sleep i get whereas my partner will not function before 10am regardless of how much sleep they get.
This strip’s joke about dinosaur hand pronation reminded me of the Carnotaurus arm display in the recent prehistoric planet trailer, and I have been wracking my brain trying to figure out a clever joke to tie the two together but I am coming up short.
I mean I watched a YDAW video years back and remembered skimming the study they cited. I know more than most but I am still not anything resembling an expert.
If you decide to share your designs I’d be more than happy to offer my two cents (although I’d recommend consulting a wider audience, there’s a lot of folks who know a lot more than me) but I’m afraid that’s all I can really offer at the moment.
I managed to load this comic with my mouse such that the hover text perfectly hid Becky’s mouth in panel 3 and turned it into a rectangle. It made her look extremely sad.
Not ashamed to say I panicked a little until my brain caught up and I moved it.
The physical proportions of my character in Shadowrun after he got new legs after the grenade went off in his lap and they had to do a $6 Million man to him (one new arm, two new legs, and extensive upgrades to the one remaining arm).
I should mention that IRL I have the proportions of Fred Flintstone, all torso and arms but almost no legs. Like for reals. I was 5’10” and had a 27-28 Inseam.
Speaking of doin’ the Vitruvian’ for some reason all of my cats end up laying across my feet/shins while I’m sleeping. Maybe I’m flailing my arms in my sleep? My wife hasn’t said anything about it though.
Although one of them does sometimes snuggle up against my ribs. But usually only on the side right next to the edge of the bed so she has about a six inch ledge.
Sensory overload is right. While I love to cuddle at night, my partner is also way too warm for me to hold comfortably all night. So I gotta turn over after a while because it’s less information to process. Some people probably would view that as mistreatment, but a girl’s gotta be comfy.
There’s websites where you can buy sleeves for them pillows that got anime characters and Metal Gear characters on ’em. Big Boss is probably a better cuddler than any real man anyway.
My opinion, after many relationships: If someone says you’re mistreating them because you’re sleeping comfortably, the problem is not you. Maybe they’re insecure. Or maybe they’re looking for something to blame you for. Or maybe some other reason.
If someone tries to make you wrong because you aren’t giving your partner the kind of physical contact they want, whoever’s trying to make you wrong is putting an unhealthy kind of pressure on you, and they should stop. (That includes if the pressure is coming from you.)
True this. I don’t generate body heat in my sleep. My husband is a radiator and ridiculously tall so his legs tend to end up on my side of the bed. Because my habit of trying to warm up the blocks of ice I was calling sleep on his legs made him scream and both of us wake up, his presents to me over the years have included two heated underblankets (coz those things don’t last forever) and a heated fleece blanket throw. (Also handwarmers, footwarmers, heated USB innersoles, jacket… I get cold easily and he helps me stay alive!)
He is a good man and I like him.
We also generally have more than one blanket on the bed because he tends to steal the main duvet in his sleep and when he does this then throw it off and lies on top of it I can’t get it back.
Oh now that is a mood I know well. XD You can also absolutely love someone (and they love you in return) yet still not be a good match for each other. Sometimes, love just isn’t enough. It was one of the hardest lessons I ever had to learn about relationships. :/
My husband and I started sleeping in separate rooms a few years ago due to different schedules and my insomnia issues and tbh it has been fantastic. We tried to go back to sleeping in the same bed once because that’s what society says couples should do and we quickly realized nope, we sleep much better apart. I wish it were more normalized as a perfectly healthy thing that works for some couples.
We see each other plenty during the day, we’re both introverts, and it’s just much easier for both of us to sleep well if we have our own space to ourselves.
Becky keep studying more and more. Doubt she could make a comment about Vitruvian Man if she were not interested in science. Left ignorance behind is a great thing.
But I didn’t understood Dina. Is she talking about dinosaurs?
I had a rat that escaped once when I was young. When I woke up she was cuddling next to me in bed. That’s the closest I’m com to having a purty girl cuddle with me.
“palms facing” what? which way are they facing? this is an incomplete sentence??
Also isn’t Dina the sort of person to use words like prone and supine specifically when describing things like arm/hand placement
I think it is a dinosaur reference: many dinosaur species could not rotate their wrists, so they’d tend to hold their hands with the palms facing each other.
It’s a dinosaur joke. Dinosaurs couldn’t pronate their wrists (most of ’em couldn’t at least, may be an exception I’m not aware of) so all bipedal dinosaurs would have held their hands facing inwards.
Thank you for explaining that this was a dinosaur joke. I thought it was some sort of oblique reference to praying? Like Dina joking about how pointless praying was? “Palms facing” seems like a description of how one would hold one’s hands in prayer.
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what is this “full night’s” rest
*cannot manage to sleep before 2-3a to wake up at 7:45a daily, cannot get through any day w/o at least a midday nap if not also an evening nap*
I almost definitely have sleep apnea, so even when I get plenty of hours of sleep, it’s still all ~woooo, being chronically sleep deprived~
Just looked up what a sleep apnea is and… wow, I should definitely see a doctor about that possibility.
I had sleep apnea as a child, got my tonsils removed and that fixed it. But probably they were inflamed.
Get yourself to a doctor as soon as practical and get yourself a CPAP. It made all the difference for me.
I could not possibly agree more. I’d had apnea (undiagnosed) for at least a decade before getting a CPAP at age 35. Before, I was exhausted all the time, but thought it was normal. Any time I would sit still for more than 90 seconds, I’d nod off. My snoring was off the charts.
My wife convinced me to have a sleep study. Turns out my O2 got so low a few times they considered waking me up, but I would eventually gasp and start breathing. They informed me I would NOT be sleeping another night without a CPAP.
The second night of the study, wearing the CPAP, I crashed straight down into delta-level sleep and stayed there for nine hours. Didn’t so much as budge. When I awoke, the difference was just STARK. Felt like I’d been given a B12 shot. I was amazed that this was how I was supposed to feel normally.
So, yeah. By all means, get a sleep study. Do it soon.
Been there, done that. Can’t imagine sleeping overnight without my mask on… although I have sometimes put up the footrest and rocked back the La-Z-Boy while watching TV, and next thing I know it’s a hour or so later.
Suggest you try to get by with a nasal mask only rather than one that covers both the nose and the mouth, if possible.
Honestly best decision I ever made. Shame I’m on the downslope again. I’ve had adenoids and tonsils done, inferior turbinate reduction and septoplasty to try and make my face/nose more useful, plus the introduction of a CPAP. Worked great for about the first two years post-surgery, but now the soft palate is weaking again and the machine can’t always push through the apnea. But when we bump up the pressure, I instead wake up 3 times a night bloated with a stomach full of air and horrible cramping. Weak refluxy oseophagus valves, woo.
Apparently it was just not in my design to live long lmao. I just miss sleep and energy D:
I’m in the process. Sleep studies schedule out a ways.
I know the feeling. Currently getting set up for a home sleep study to satisfy insurance so I can replace my 15 year old machine.
Some things that were impresed upon me from my old study. My blood oxygen level was dropping to 87%. That’s…not good.
Endorse this. Get the test. It can change your life and prolong it. I waited 20 years too long.
“Full night’s rest” is relative to college students, anyway. For all we know, they got 5 hours and called it a win.
I had insomnia for five months and it turns out the way around it was to go back to doing the things that are “improper sleep hygiene” like stare bleary-eyed at my laptop in bed for an hour until I shut it off, roll over, and go to sleep.
And also drugs, but those have been touch and go.
I used to get consistent bouts of insane insomnia. I’m talking about 4 hours of sleep every 36 hours if it was good and about 4 hours of sleep every 72ish hours when it was bad. It got bad enough at one point that I started hallucinating. Not even double the normal dose of sleep meds would put me out. I don’t normally drink, but I tried to drink myself unconscious at one point. Fortunately 6 Mike’s Hard Lemonades didn’t do the trick =)
I eventually eliminated most caffeine from my diet. No caffeinated soda, coffee only a few times a year, less tea, no change in chocolate. I’ve had a couple of bad weeks since, but never anything as extreme as before making the switch.
Keeping a fairly consistent sleep/wake schedule has also helped a LOT. No sleeping in on weekends, I avoid napping. Getting a consistent dose of sunlight in the mornings has helped as well.
I feel your pain I used to be on a sort of watch list from age 9 tp 1bout 30 where if I was out after 11 pm the local sheriffs would do a check to make sure I wasn’t walking around hallucinating because I was on little to no sleep ….. when I was 12 I was up for 6 days nd the er gave me a shot of something that I slept for 2 days …… the sad thing is now I’m so used 4 to maybe 5 hours a night I just stay up until I pass out …..
Could be your thyroid. That was me before thyroid mediation.
I’m on thyroid meds!
Can’t fall asleep ’til after 2am typically, always wakes up for about 30 minutes around 4:30, and then gets up for work at 6:30.
Also: *Cries in chronic fatigue syndrome*
I wake up at 1 AM for work. Like the Bon Jovi song goes, “I’ll sleep when I’m dead.”
I’d recommend seeking a job where you don’t need to be waking up at 7:45, changes your life I tell ya
I look forward to a day I have a job where I can wake up thar late.
lol.
LOL I SAY.
My day’s half kaput by 7:45!
I read somewhere that bicyclic sleep was natural for human in a lot of scenarios so if it works for you there might not be anything wrong with that. Based on “something i read” at least. Could be worth looking into
Also I think morning and night people is definitely a thing. I feel like heck if i sleep past 7am regardless of how much sleep i get whereas my partner will not function before 10am regardless of how much sleep they get.
Well, isn’t that a most marvelous, lovely sight to wake up to?
I sure hope we get to see dinosaur dreams in the comic some day!
🦕
🦖
*plays “Land Before Time Main Theme Medley” by James Horner on Hacked Muzak*
That song gives me so much nostalgia.
Dina: Excellent, Becky believed my clever ruse, and does not suspect my unexpected discovery of a foot fetish.
Becky: You just said that out loud.
Dina: Curses.
What does everyone else think of the matter?
Let’s use the power of statistics!
Do you think Dina has a foot fetish?
https://strawpoll.com/polls/ajnENv1j0gW
Becky gets out of bed and finds that for some reason she’s wearing a pair of these.
Becky: Um, Dina?
I can never get a full night’s rest, but that’s probably for the best.
If I did get a full night’s rest then I’d be unstoppable but, the earth wouldn’t be able handle it.
Welp, I meant for this comment to be a reply to Ana. Guess it is stuck here now, oh well.
If your comments always posted in the right places, you’d be unstoppable and the the earth wouldn’t be able to handle it.
Accurate lol
Love these two, glad their sleep habits seem fairly compatible, enjoying a little bit of space.
This strip’s joke about dinosaur hand pronation reminded me of the Carnotaurus arm display in the recent prehistoric planet trailer, and I have been wracking my brain trying to figure out a clever joke to tie the two together but I am coming up short.
Much like Abelisaurid arms.
The T-rex may have had short arms that could lift over 400 pounds, but DAMN!
The Abelisaurid really got the middle finger from evolution!
Eh, ‘s not so bad. Carnotaurus in particular was metal as hell and probably one of the fastest theropods out there.
And y’know, they might have had uses for those arms. Would strongly recommend checking out the Prehistoric Planet trailer if you haven’t already seen it.
Looks great, but I’d rather get my dino facts straight from the source. I mean SAUCE.
Can anyone pull up a paper on Carnotaurus speed please?
There may be more recent ones, but this is the one that I’m thinking about in regards to their speed
Thanks! You sure know your stuff!
I stand corrected! SPEED DEMON is right!
Also, LOVE the horns!!!!
*plays “Avarice” by David Fenn on Hacked Muzak*
I mean I watched a YDAW video years back and remembered skimming the study they cited. I know more than most but I am still not anything resembling an expert.
Well you know a lot more than I do right now!
Is this a hobby of yours? For how long have you been studying dinosaurs like this?
BTW Thag, I’m making a game featuring scientifically accurate dinosaurs in their glory, and the DOA cast too!
Would you like to help?
Can’t say I’m qualified to help much, and I doubt I’d be able to commit to any sort of serious project. Sorry.
Even a little help of some kind would mean the world to me! I mean that!
You know of an artist or 3D animator who’d be willing to collaborate on a passion project?
If not, just checking for scientific accuracy on one occasion while it’s in development would be vital too!
If you decide to share your designs I’d be more than happy to offer my two cents (although I’d recommend consulting a wider audience, there’s a lot of folks who know a lot more than me) but I’m afraid that’s all I can really offer at the moment.
I love these two. They’re very cute and always seem very compatible.
Yes. if they ever break up i’m going to willis’ house and…idk, holding up a boombox outside of their window and playing the saddest song
I managed to load this comic with my mouse such that the hover text perfectly hid Becky’s mouth in panel 3 and turned it into a rectangle. It made her look extremely sad.
Not ashamed to say I panicked a little until my brain caught up and I moved it.
I love these two so much
a vitruia..what
The funny picture of the guy doing a snow angel
It’s a marvelous drawing from my favorite gay neurodivergent creator, Leonardo da Vinci!!!
The physical proportions of my character in Shadowrun after he got new legs after the grenade went off in his lap and they had to do a $6 Million man to him (one new arm, two new legs, and extensive upgrades to the one remaining arm).
I should mention that IRL I have the proportions of Fred Flintstone, all torso and arms but almost no legs. Like for reals. I was 5’10” and had a 27-28 Inseam.
And Dina is almost lethally cute in this page.
Da Vinci was neurodivergent? Neat
oooh
Speaking of doin’ the Vitruvian’ for some reason all of my cats end up laying across my feet/shins while I’m sleeping. Maybe I’m flailing my arms in my sleep? My wife hasn’t said anything about it though.
Although one of them does sometimes snuggle up against my ribs. But usually only on the side right next to the edge of the bed so she has about a six inch ledge.
It could just be a temperature thing. Might get uncomfortably warm for them up by your head/torso.
They just keep getting cuter
Sensory overload is right. While I love to cuddle at night, my partner is also way too warm for me to hold comfortably all night. So I gotta turn over after a while because it’s less information to process. Some people probably would view that as mistreatment, but a girl’s gotta be comfy.
Sorry if this has a lot of typos. I’m a little high tonight and haven’t adapted to the coordination changes.
At least you have a partner to cuddle with. All I have are pillows. *sigh*
There’s websites where you can buy sleeves for them pillows that got anime characters and Metal Gear characters on ’em. Big Boss is probably a better cuddler than any real man anyway.
Just wait till they’re automatically heated to 98.6 degrees.
My opinion, after many relationships: If someone says you’re mistreating them because you’re sleeping comfortably, the problem is not you. Maybe they’re insecure. Or maybe they’re looking for something to blame you for. Or maybe some other reason.
If someone tries to make you wrong because you aren’t giving your partner the kind of physical contact they want, whoever’s trying to make you wrong is putting an unhealthy kind of pressure on you, and they should stop. (That includes if the pressure is coming from you.)
True this. I don’t generate body heat in my sleep. My husband is a radiator and ridiculously tall so his legs tend to end up on my side of the bed. Because my habit of trying to warm up the blocks of ice I was calling sleep on his legs made him scream and both of us wake up, his presents to me over the years have included two heated underblankets (coz those things don’t last forever) and a heated fleece blanket throw. (Also handwarmers, footwarmers, heated USB innersoles, jacket… I get cold easily and he helps me stay alive!)
He is a good man and I like him.
We also generally have more than one blanket on the bed because he tends to steal the main duvet in his sleep and when he does this then throw it off and lies on top of it I can’t get it back.
(I also love him but you can love people without liking them and that tends to lead to a lot of emotional pain.)
Oh now that is a mood I know well. XD You can also absolutely love someone (and they love you in return) yet still not be a good match for each other. Sometimes, love just isn’t enough. It was one of the hardest lessons I ever had to learn about relationships. :/
Agreed. Usually I can’t fall asleep at all while in physical contact with another person.
On the rare occasions when I’ve been so tired that I fall asleep anyway, I always wake up again later and disentangle,
My husband and I started sleeping in separate rooms a few years ago due to different schedules and my insomnia issues and tbh it has been fantastic. We tried to go back to sleeping in the same bed once because that’s what society says couples should do and we quickly realized nope, we sleep much better apart. I wish it were more normalized as a perfectly healthy thing that works for some couples.
We see each other plenty during the day, we’re both introverts, and it’s just much easier for both of us to sleep well if we have our own space to ourselves.
Becky keep studying more and more. Doubt she could make a comment about Vitruvian Man if she were not interested in science. Left ignorance behind is a great thing.
But I didn’t understood Dina. Is she talking about dinosaurs?
With Dina, I think it’s safe to assume she’s talking about dinosaurs.
I had a rat that escaped once when I was young. When I woke up she was cuddling next to me in bed. That’s the closest I’m com to having a purty girl cuddle with me.
Not gonna lie, as much as I love purty gurls surprise pet rat cuddles rank even higher
“palms facing” what? which way are they facing? this is an incomplete sentence??
Also isn’t Dina the sort of person to use words like prone and supine specifically when describing things like arm/hand placement
I think it is a dinosaur reference: many dinosaur species could not rotate their wrists, so they’d tend to hold their hands with the palms facing each other.
It’s a dinosaur joke. Dinosaurs couldn’t pronate their wrists (most of ’em couldn’t at least, may be an exception I’m not aware of) so all bipedal dinosaurs would have held their hands facing inwards.
“Clappers not slappers” as the alt-text days
Facing inwards makes a lot more sense than just facing.
Thank you for explaining that this was a dinosaur joke. I thought it was some sort of oblique reference to praying? Like Dina joking about how pointless praying was? “Palms facing” seems like a description of how one would hold one’s hands in prayer.
I had a 20yo machine my family got off craigs list for me that I used for a few years before finally making the plunge to do all the studies.
Is Amber still cooling her heels out in the lobby?
We don’t know, but Dina and Becky are in Becky and Dorothy’s room.
Ah, so facing each other is the complete sentence.
How she worded it is unusual, but not incorrect.
This is so cute!
Also, yeah, me too. I love cuddling. I love sleeping (when I can). The two sadly cannot coexist ^^;