mind depend on the room, i can see the practicality of it but i assume from like the front door it wouldn’t be as soundproof compared to the walls in case of emerggencies lol
I initially thought it looked like he had done some serious self harm in the past and had scars. I thought that was some pretty dark background setting stuff though. But people who self-harm and have scars do eventually want to be able to wear clothes that don’t cover it up, if they work through the hiding it part. It just seemed like the kind of thing Willis wouldn’t throw on a side character though.
For it to be pretty serious self-harm, that then assumes that Sayid is going so far out there to completely draw attention to it and show it off, as sleeveless hoodies are *extremely* difficult to find and not typical clothing worn in the winter.
It also assumes that Sal is *so* completely insensitive that she assigns a name and identity to him that is very clearly related to self-harm and mental illness, rather than something more generic.
… I’m pretty positive that these are just tattoos.
How loud does it have to be if it leaks out the door? I have to assume that’s the only place that isn’t soundproofed and can be heard from the front desk.
If we’re going with ‘people who totally exist in DoA-verse in person’, then Lester (the cop who Blaine totally stole the gun from) is the current record at 2 strips.
Does Sal remember those arms? She’s expressed appreciation in the past.
. I’m finding them unsettling just this strip though, cos I can’t quite parse them. As conclusively cloth or skin. (I know they’re tats)
it’s hard to tell with the striped sleeve(?) but i suppose irl it might be more noticeable with buff arms (or at least i would notice b/c my arms are like the skinniest part of me b/c i have no upper body muscle haha)
I thought they were either clothes or his arm hair just grew weird like that until I checked the previous strips with Sayid and remembered he has tattoos on his arms.
Yeah this. Room to room is pretty good, they don’t bother with the hallway so you get a lot of hallway bleed. It’s good… enough? Barely? Unless someone is particularly loud in a small room in which case you might as well be in the same room and it’s horrible. (Yes, this is an “ask me how I know” experience.)
Why is every building so fucking noisy?? We have central air in my current apartment, and when the unit kicks on it may as well be a fucking TMC truck from how loud the damn thing is.
I once lived in a dormitory that had the opposite problem in a very weird way—thanks to a very poorly designed ventilation system, loud music from one dorm room could be heard *in the dorm room across the hall* through the overhead air ducts even though the dorm rooms were pretty well soundproofed from the hallway itself.
Soundproofing is easy when the rooms are purpose-built. They’ll have double walls between them instead of a single stud wall. That will help keep noise from transferring through the wood. All the walls would get filled with mineral wool insulation and finished with two layers of drywall glued together with that green soundproofing adhesive. I can’t imagine much would get through that.
The insides of the rooms would be acoustically treated too, with bass traps and wall coverings so you don’t get that hollow, metallic, “empty room” echo.
The door and HVAC system are going to be your weak points. You need a heavy, solid door with a good seal and no window for best results. Even then, you’re separating two spaces by a single solid piece, which is what the rest of the design avoids.
At Oberlin College, this was a feature, not a bug. It was fun and creative-feeling to walk through the hallways and hear the world-class Conservatory students practicing all their various pieces.
I don’t think any of them were playing WAP on ukulele, but nothing is perfect.
… When have we last seen Sal use her phone? Does she still have it? This is the second instance of “why don’t you just use your phone” in recent times (the first being climbing into Danny’s window rather than texting him)…
In a distance future where Sal and Danny got married
“Mom what first attracted you to dad?”
“His skill with a ukulele“
“is that a sex thing”
“No it’s a musical instrument”
“I know that but I don’t get the euphemism.”
“It’s not, it was his musical talents”
“Dad how did you get mom to notice you?”
“My skills at ukulele”
“Fine don’t tell me.”
It’s hard to imagine any of the characters staying together that long, but they would make a cute family together. I would read a family sit-com style comic about them with their kids.
I mean sound proof rooms with a bunch of young adults whats the worst that can go wrong… I think the school made the right choice by not 100% soundproofing them.
Still they would have to be almost entirely soundproof otherwise the sound would travel out one room and then into the other through the hallway. Plus if they are heavily booked and the rooms aren’t soundproof then surely anyone using the rooms would have heard other peoples music while walking past the other rooms.
Also it’s a bit questionable that Sayid could identify which room the music was coming from unless he’s been walking around listening at the doors. Which would definitely make more sense than him being able to hear the music from all the way over there.
I’m not sure exactly how I would do that, as I’m not too tech savvy and I don’t want to put my email address out there on this page. (Too many stalkery gross/scary ads and tracker cookies follow me around from this website.) But I am grateful to you for thinking of me! I was able to help them connect with a few resources, like the Trevor Project, so I am thinking and hoping they will be OK. Knock on wood!!!
Should the need arise again, there are secure services like protonmail that allow you to create an email address in a few clicks that you can use once or twice and then forget about. It’s as untraceable as it gets I think
In theory, for practicing with a musical instrument.
In practice (ahem), making out and/or having sex (when doing it in a dorm room or whatever is not an option).
And they’re booked because they’re a finite resource. I would guess that supply is usually sufficient to meet demand, but because Sayid made a point of mentioning it just now, I suspect we’re about to see that Sal and Danny can’t simply keep using that room, because someone else has reserved it for the next block of time.
Thanks.
“In practice (ahem), making out and/or having sex (when doing it in a dorm room or whatever is not an option).” the lack of sound insulation for the hallway might put some dents into this plan.
Music rooms for practicing instruments/singing so you don’t annoy literally all your dormmates into hating you because musicians have to practice and often to get and stay good. My high school had three.
And they’d have to be booked in advance because there is likely only a few but more than a few people learn an instrument or sing and you can’t have the same 5 people hogging the rooms for hours and hours each and every day without giving other people a chance.
Let’s hope this will not become a problem for the recording session. If I remember well, Sayid don’t like ukulele players. But probably he will not say that to Sal.
His beef was with non-music majors using those rooms for a hobby while music majors (such as himself) were kept from practicing. Presumably with Sal actually using the room for her studies Danny would get a pass this time.
Currently playing “Tony Stark’s Concentration Mix” on the hacked robot arm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVbUNRwpXzw
Sending caring thoughts to anyone experiencing workplace anxiety right now.
Thanks, StClair. Just dealing with low-grade subsurface panic about the effects of disability at work. Makes it hard to think and talk and write and get things done. Music helps a bit.
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I thought Bryan said he was thankful those rooms were soundproofed when he and Sayid…
…
hmm
mind depend on the room, i can see the practicality of it but i assume from like the front door it wouldn’t be as soundproof compared to the walls in case of emerggencies lol
Sayid apparently speaks from experience. Painful, painful experience.
yeah that’s a mistake you only make once
That’s what SHE sayid!
when they played the uke?
Sayid working there must be a kind of… penality?..
oh wow been a while since we’ve seen sayid lol
It’s not the first strip with Sayid in it called “arms” either.
i would love to be that consistent i feel like i could like have a good walk one day but laze around the rest of the week haha
He has very nice arms
Legitimate question:
Is that a prosthetic, tattoos, or hair?
I was gonna say tattoos, but I took another look and… now I’m gonna say hair.
I initially thought it looked like he had done some serious self harm in the past and had scars. I thought that was some pretty dark background setting stuff though. But people who self-harm and have scars do eventually want to be able to wear clothes that don’t cover it up, if they work through the hiding it part. It just seemed like the kind of thing Willis wouldn’t throw on a side character though.
For it to be pretty serious self-harm, that then assumes that Sayid is going so far out there to completely draw attention to it and show it off, as sleeveless hoodies are *extremely* difficult to find and not typical clothing worn in the winter.
It also assumes that Sal is *so* completely insensitive that she assigns a name and identity to him that is very clearly related to self-harm and mental illness, rather than something more generic.
… I’m pretty positive that these are just tattoos.
Any hoodie can be a sleeveless hoodie, once.
Pretty sure it’s a tattoo of muscles.
I thought it was a tattoo of wood grain!
It has been so long that he appeared in a strip that I forgot about the tattoos, I thought he was wearing a knitted sweater or something similar.
There’s a previous comic where Sal indicated that she was rather enamored with Sayid’s tattooed arms.
Slipshine suggests definitely not a prosthetic. (And also definitely not hair.)
It’s apparently the feature Sal has decided to recognize him by.
To be fair, so would I, though I’m not sure if it’s for the same reason. And he takes it in stride, so I guess she’s not the only one.
dude’s wearing a tank top I’m sure he knows what he’s working with
Oh no is Sal gonna be all self conscious.
How loud does it have to be if it leaks out the door? I have to assume that’s the only place that isn’t soundproofed and can be heard from the front desk.
Hi Sayid!
Good to know that everyone in the hall was subjected to what I’m sure was a delightful WAP cover.
“Empty Arms Hotel?”–Hee Haw
I hear that “The Culhanes” are still living there (if you want to reach them just call BR-549)!
Sayid makes a very rare appearance. I wonder who the rarest named character is?
Bonnie clocks in at 3 strips. Not sure if anyone’s lower.
“totally harmless guy” but he’s not really a chara lol
Bloodrose has two, but she’s not tagged.
Bart (a.k.a. Bart O’Ryan, the Walter-Peck-type jerkass-has-a-point lawyer from the final years of It’s Walky!) currently has exactly one tagged strip.
If we’re going with ‘people who totally exist in DoA-verse in person’, then Lester (the cop who Blaine totally stole the gun from) is the current record at 2 strips.
Wow, two appearances and he killed Blaine in one of them? Lester might be a crooked cop, but he’s very efficient in cleaning up this comic strip.
I had a graph that shows all named DoA characters, but it’s offline now. Shit.
So Sayid works at both Galasso’s and the… wherever this is?
Is he a student?
Yes.
Campus jobs probably don’t pay much. Wonder if he’s working his way through school or funding his bad arm tattoos?
Could be both.
So… wait.
How does that work?
If any room can be heard from the hall and vice versa…
Or is it a surveilance camera situation?
The room booked itself after hearing the first few notes.
*plays Hanson’s “Where’s The Love” behind the painting*
Does Sal remember those arms? She’s expressed appreciation in the past.
. I’m finding them unsettling just this strip though, cos I can’t quite parse them. As conclusively cloth or skin. (I know they’re tats)
it’s hard to tell with the striped sleeve(?) but i suppose irl it might be more noticeable with buff arms (or at least i would notice b/c my arms are like the skinniest part of me b/c i have no upper body muscle haha)
I think is because of this com
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/02-but-the-sun-still-shines/arms/
I am dumb I misunderstood what you were asking >_<
I always thought it was a prostetic, but as shown just now I might be dumb lmao
I thought they were either clothes or his arm hair just grew weird like that until I checked the previous strips with Sayid and remembered he has tattoos on his arms.
sayid my absolute beloved
(both him and sal look so good in panel one)
That’s pretty shitty soundproofing then.
that’d make everyone’s tuition even higher even if ppl don’t use those rooms lol XD
I’m still having a hard time imagining how that kinda situation is actually physically possible.
Probably soundproofed walls, but the wooden door leaks the sound into the hallway a bit.
Yeah this. Room to room is pretty good, they don’t bother with the hallway so you get a lot of hallway bleed. It’s good… enough? Barely? Unless someone is particularly loud in a small room in which case you might as well be in the same room and it’s horrible. (Yes, this is an “ask me how I know” experience.)
Ah, now I have the picture. Very interesting how the school wouldn’t also soundproof the door….
I have a lot of issues with building code in this country, sound control (or the lack thereof) is definitely one of them.
Why is every building so fucking noisy?? We have central air in my current apartment, and when the unit kicks on it may as well be a fucking TMC truck from how loud the damn thing is.
Acoustics Engineering is always the first thing to get cut when putting a building up, nobody cares enough to get it right
I wonder if it’s like a regular fan, where it gets noisier if you don’t clean it, only it’d be a really big fan that nobody cleans?
I once lived in a dormitory that had the opposite problem in a very weird way—thanks to a very poorly designed ventilation system, loud music from one dorm room could be heard *in the dorm room across the hall* through the overhead air ducts even though the dorm rooms were pretty well soundproofed from the hallway itself.
Soundproofing is easy when the rooms are purpose-built. They’ll have double walls between them instead of a single stud wall. That will help keep noise from transferring through the wood. All the walls would get filled with mineral wool insulation and finished with two layers of drywall glued together with that green soundproofing adhesive. I can’t imagine much would get through that.
The insides of the rooms would be acoustically treated too, with bass traps and wall coverings so you don’t get that hollow, metallic, “empty room” echo.
The door and HVAC system are going to be your weak points. You need a heavy, solid door with a good seal and no window for best results. Even then, you’re separating two spaces by a single solid piece, which is what the rest of the design avoids.
Accurate though. Direct room-connected-to-room sound dampening wasn’t bad but you had some severe hallway bleed. Well, at my school, anyway.
At Oberlin College, this was a feature, not a bug. It was fun and creative-feeling to walk through the hallways and hear the world-class Conservatory students practicing all their various pieces.
I don’t think any of them were playing WAP on ukulele, but nothing is perfect.
Yep, this is true of pretty much any music building I’ve ever been in.
Yeah; this is why you test the soundproofing before you do. . . things
… When have we last seen Sal use her phone? Does she still have it? This is the second instance of “why don’t you just use your phone” in recent times (the first being climbing into Danny’s window rather than texting him)…
Doing everything in person leaves no paper trail to be used against her at a later date.
…am *I* Sal? I don’t know if I can handle this responsibility.
“Oh, uh, if it ain’t soundproofed Ah guess Ah don’t need the room fer a while longer.”
In a distance future where Sal and Danny got married
“Mom what first attracted you to dad?”
“His skill with a ukulele“
“is that a sex thing”
“No it’s a musical instrument”
“I know that but I don’t get the euphemism.”
“It’s not, it was his musical talents”
“Dad how did you get mom to notice you?”
“My skills at ukulele”
“Fine don’t tell me.”
It’s hard to imagine any of the characters staying together that long, but they would make a cute family together. I would read a family sit-com style comic about them with their kids.
Becky/Dina maybe. I’ve learned to stop betting against the Lizbians
“Hey, Arms.”
“Yeah, Gloves.”
heh
I mean sound proof rooms with a bunch of young adults whats the worst that can go wrong… I think the school made the right choice by not 100% soundproofing them.
Still they would have to be almost entirely soundproof otherwise the sound would travel out one room and then into the other through the hallway. Plus if they are heavily booked and the rooms aren’t soundproof then surely anyone using the rooms would have heard other peoples music while walking past the other rooms.
Also it’s a bit questionable that Sayid could identify which room the music was coming from unless he’s been walking around listening at the doors. Which would definitely make more sense than him being able to hear the music from all the way over there.
but this way they can halt a rhythmic slapping of the flesh tambourine for those who don’t know they aren’t soundproofed.
Hi folks,
I’m asking since you folks know a lot about all things trans, hoping you can help…
Know of any community resources for transgender children, especially BIPOC transgender children, in Missouri? Asking for a friend.
I know someone who might know someone? Would you consider linking an email or website to contact you with?
That is so sweet of you, Joy!
I’m not sure exactly how I would do that, as I’m not too tech savvy and I don’t want to put my email address out there on this page. (Too many stalkery gross/scary ads and tracker cookies follow me around from this website.) But I am grateful to you for thinking of me! I was able to help them connect with a few resources, like the Trevor Project, so I am thinking and hoping they will be OK. Knock on wood!!!
Thank you again,
Laura
Should the need arise again, there are secure services like protonmail that allow you to create an email address in a few clicks that you can use once or twice and then forget about. It’s as untraceable as it gets I think
Thank you, milu!
All I have is the tri-county mental health services, but it’s better than nothing!
https://www.tri-countymhs.org/
That is helpful! Thank you very much!
Okay, can anyone clarify what those rooms are, their purpose and why it need to be booked?
In theory, for practicing with a musical instrument.
In practice (ahem), making out and/or having sex (when doing it in a dorm room or whatever is not an option).
And they’re booked because they’re a finite resource. I would guess that supply is usually sufficient to meet demand, but because Sayid made a point of mentioning it just now, I suspect we’re about to see that Sal and Danny can’t simply keep using that room, because someone else has reserved it for the next block of time.
Thanks.
“In practice (ahem), making out and/or having sex (when doing it in a dorm room or whatever is not an option).” the lack of sound insulation for the hallway might put some dents into this plan.
They still have better sound insulation than your dorm room.
Music rooms for practicing instruments/singing so you don’t annoy literally all your dormmates into hating you because musicians have to practice and often to get and stay good. My high school had three.
And they’d have to be booked in advance because there is likely only a few but more than a few people learn an instrument or sing and you can’t have the same 5 people hogging the rooms for hours and hours each and every day without giving other people a chance.
Hi Sayid !
True that music rooms *in general* can have crappy isolation, but is this instance based on a particular condition at this university?
And did it really happen to someone in particular that inspired this episode?
Let’s hope this will not become a problem for the recording session. If I remember well, Sayid don’t like ukulele players. But probably he will not say that to Sal.
His beef was with non-music majors using those rooms for a hobby while music majors (such as himself) were kept from practicing. Presumably with Sal actually using the room for her studies Danny would get a pass this time.
This time Danny passes, but I’m sure Sayid will continue to glare at him with disdain.
Local library has a soundproof recording studio. With a large double pane window. No shenanigans!! I helped design it.
So cool!
Ours too!
Currently playing “Tony Stark’s Concentration Mix” on the hacked robot arm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVbUNRwpXzw
Sending caring thoughts to anyone experiencing workplace anxiety right now.
more a case of generalized anxiety, but thanks for the thought.
what’s the occasion? :\
Thanks, StClair. Just dealing with low-grade subsurface panic about the effects of disability at work. Makes it hard to think and talk and write and get things done. Music helps a bit.
*my disability.
I feel ya. It never gets any less exhausting for us neurodivergents, does it?
Nope.
Oops! Meant that to be a reply to the earlier thread! Scratch that / disregard.
Wait, Sal isn’t going to freak out because someone heard her singing with a ukelele, right? Also sorry for the double comment, I messed up my email.
I’m pretty sure a lot of people in the college have already heard her and Danny performance on the stairs.