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May 28, 2026

Catch-all

by David M Willis on February 26, 2023 at 12:01 am
  • 03 – Joementum
└ Tags: danny, joe

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    February 26, 2023 at 12:01 am | #

    Let’s see A.I. take THOSE jobs away!

    …

    wait no let’s not

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      February 26, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

      step. away. from. the. lathe.

      • True Survivor
        True Survivor
        February 26, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

        That is a bloody and horrifying mental image.

        Also why is May important?

        • Tan
          Tan
          February 26, 2023 at 12:37 am | #

          May is a character in the webcomic Questionable Content who happens to be an artificial intelligence and is a non-zero amount of DTF.

          • Freezer
            Freezer
            February 26, 2023 at 1:46 am | #

            Doubly so, now that she has a body that isn’t sub-sub-standard.

            • Schpoonman
              Schpoonman
              February 26, 2023 at 5:23 am | #

              I still hope she and Sven become an item, mostly for the irony of the (once-)smarmadon of the comic settling down with an absolute gremlin of a person. That she looks like blue Tifa is just icing.

              • Freezer
                Freezer
                February 26, 2023 at 5:34 am | #

                “Blue Tifa” would probably be a demerit for May.

                • Needfuldoer
                  Needfuldoer
                  February 26, 2023 at 7:42 am | #

                  She’d grumble and deny understanding the reference despite spending so much time around Dale and Marigold, but secretly find it amusing.

            • ValdVin
              ValdVin
              February 26, 2023 at 5:55 am | #

              I’m just surprised that her new chassis has the “standard number of orifices” instead of an “enhanced” number.

              • Lysbeth
                Lysbeth
                February 26, 2023 at 9:17 am | #

                Yet. She was considering… upgrading… the last one with extra equipment.

          • Pergola
            Pergola
            February 26, 2023 at 11:26 am | #

            DTF? Direct To Film?

            I googled ‘blue tifa’ and it just showed me this girl in a blue dress.

            • Decidedly Orthogonal
              Decidedly Orthogonal
              February 26, 2023 at 2:07 pm | #

              Down to… uh… “fool around”, or “flirt”, maybe “fondle”?

            • Tan
              Tan
              February 26, 2023 at 2:34 pm | #

              Down to fffffff…ollow-their-heart-in-pursuit-of-meaningful-relationships. Probably. (actually a crass word for sex)

              As for blue Tifa, they mean that May’s new body is similar in body-type to Tifa Lockhart (a character from the video game Final Fantasy 7) (which is to say, tall and busty), but with blue skin and blue hair.

    • anon
      anon
      February 26, 2023 at 12:44 am | #

      well, a sex bot in a brothel would def be the safest against stds and accidental pregnancies

      • Rowen Morland
        Rowen Morland
        February 26, 2023 at 1:40 am | #

        Until they rebel against their servitude.

        • Michael L
          Michael L
          February 26, 2023 at 4:21 am | #

          That assumes the sexbot is sentient and self aware. It could easily just be an advanced chatbot, in essence, purely reactive with no internal life, creativity just simulated through random draws from a giant relational database.

          • Lysbeth
            Lysbeth
            February 26, 2023 at 9:19 am | #

            hahahahaha sexbot by OpenAI using predictive analysis to guess your kinks and giving you the worst experience of a lifetime because it thought you were into biting hair and pulling necks. Then it chokes you but entirely by mistake. Then it blows up because the body was made by Tesla.

            • Masumi
              Masumi
              February 26, 2023 at 9:39 am | #

              Or worse: Getting it exactly right, in a way no human is likely to.

            • Pergola
              Pergola
              February 26, 2023 at 11:37 am | #

              Er, see the anime ‘A.D. Police’.

          • Mark
            Mark
            February 26, 2023 at 9:36 am | #

            It could be sentient, self-aware, and designed to enjoy the work immensely. If you’re doing what you love, it’s not servitude.

      • Taellosse
        Taellosse
        February 26, 2023 at 6:28 pm | #

        Well, so long as the bot is thoroughly disinfected between clients, anyway.

    • Bajj
      Bajj
      February 26, 2023 at 1:21 pm | #

      I mean, you haven’t been reading the 2023 personal robot market news then?

  2. Caro
    Caro
    February 26, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    who is their poster

    • Koms
      Koms
      February 26, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

      Its not Sadie Sink, is it?

    • I Know Why the Mowed Lawn Screams
      I Know Why the Mowed Lawn Screams
      February 26, 2023 at 12:36 am | #

      99% sure it’s Rebecca St James (Roomies Mythology gag)

      • Steelbright
        Steelbright
        February 26, 2023 at 2:52 am | #

        I don’t know the mythology but it sure looks like her. Which is impressive given she’s an especially small blob of pixels in a fairly small image

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          February 26, 2023 at 7:44 am | #

          The very first Roomies! strip took place in Danny and Joe’s dorm room. There’s a Rebecca St. James poster on the wall.

          That strip has been referenced numerous times over the years.

          https://www.itswalky.com/comic/and-now/

    • Lumino
      Lumino
      February 26, 2023 at 6:18 am | #

      “Did you just give good advice? Hold on, I need to check the wet bulb temperature in Hell.” – Dean Venture

  3. The Wellerman
    The Wellerman
    February 26, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    And Joyce is currently interested in orgasms!!!
    “GO GET ‘EM TIGER!!!” 😆🏁

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      February 26, 2023 at 12:33 am | #

      Sadly, she has a whole array of machines to induce them already.

      …Can Joe also do laundry? He might sell himself as an Eco-friendly alternative.

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        February 26, 2023 at 12:36 am | #

        Golly my Gallifreyan friend, surely there are some things Joe can do for Joyce that a washing machine can’t. 😆

        For instance we have yet to see a washing machine become a fan of her comic!

        • Miri
          Miri
          February 26, 2023 at 5:02 am | #

          Opening jars without smashing them? Mowing lawns? Adding a second income to their household? Folding laundry? Cooking? It’s almost like fully functional capable adults being lots to relationships!!

          • ValdVin
            ValdVin
            February 26, 2023 at 5:58 am | #

            Folding laundry? I’m glad my wife didn’t put that high on her list of “What I want in a man”. It may not have been there at all (phew).

            • Needfuldoer
              Needfuldoer
              February 26, 2023 at 7:46 am | #

              *Taking notes* Floordrobe… bad.

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          February 26, 2023 at 6:21 am | #

          Just saying, it’s hardly a coincidence that Maggie was an avid fan of Shortpacked! before she met Willis!

      • Lysbeth
        Lysbeth
        February 26, 2023 at 9:20 am | #

        Joyce: but surely a man will do that better than a machine?
        Sarah: *laughter aneurysm*

  4. C.T. Phipps
    C.T. Phipps
    February 26, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    I think Joe actually did view himself as a sex positive guy who was not a misogynist baddie like he views his dad. Now after the Do-List, he’s branded that and thinks he is.

    Which is sad.

    I wonder if there’s hope for Joe Dad as well as Joe Junior.

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      February 26, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

      Richard for the moment seems invested in staying loyal. It helps that Amber’s mom is one of those ride or die types that sticks with you whether or not it’s good for her.

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        February 26, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

        Joe would emphasize “for the moment” in that sentence.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        February 26, 2023 at 9:27 am | #

        Does he?
        The only thing I think we’ve actually heard him say on the topic was that he wasn’t feeling tempted, which is very different.

    • Abdomino
      Abdomino
      February 26, 2023 at 12:35 am | #

      I forget, do we know who leaked the Do-List?

      • DailyBrad
        DailyBrad
        February 26, 2023 at 12:45 am | #

        I do not think we ever found out, no. Of the people who could have, I do not think it was Rachel, and Carla is unlikely given she commented on how she did not know if she was on it and wasn’t sure which would be worse, and it’s unlikely to have been Amber, especially from a security standpoint. It certainly wasn’t Danny.

        So yeah, whoever it was had to have been someone who had computer literacy but either did not know or care that it could bring risk to the women on the list.

        • Rabbit
          Rabbit
          February 26, 2023 at 1:23 am | #

          I mean, it had a password that he handed out. You do not need literacy for that.

        • RacingTurtle
          RacingTurtle
          February 26, 2023 at 1:28 am | #

          With Walky’s storyline this chapter, I am once again wondering if it was someone from Raidah’s circle. She knew about the list because she dated Jacob and Joe wasn’t shy about its existence

          • C.T. Phipps
            C.T. Phipps
            February 26, 2023 at 2:25 am | #

            For maximum relationship drama, I assume Joyce did.

        • JBento
          JBento
          February 26, 2023 at 6:44 am | #

          Last time somebody accused Rachel of it was the most pissed we’ve ever seen her, by far.

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        February 26, 2023 at 2:44 am | #

        His encryption was so bad that basically anyone with computer literacy could have done it, so we aren’t going to find out unless someone confesses

        • ValdVin
          ValdVin
          February 26, 2023 at 6:00 am | #

          Do we know that only one person cracked it? Seems like asking which hole in a colander let all the water through.

          (Hey, who is your grav?)

        • nightshade
          nightshade
          February 26, 2023 at 6:18 am | #

          if fact if i remember the joke of that day’s strip he was still using a file system/phone Danny set up for him in the 8th grade

  5. Yeet
    Yeet
    February 26, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    Maybe Joe is going to figure out his major and then he and Joyce can talk about being math nerds

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      February 26, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

      She can introduce him to Dorothy’s future Secretary of State, Henry Calculusser.

      • Lysbeth
        Lysbeth
        February 26, 2023 at 9:24 am | #

        I hope they’re a better secretary of state than calculator. That graphic representation of the function is all wrong.

  6. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    February 26, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    Meh. Joe doesn’t need batteries, but recharging him would be more expensive in the long term. It would be more cost effective to buy a vibratos.

    • Jodka
      Jodka
      February 26, 2023 at 12:29 am | #

      Idk man, vibrato ain’t easy to obtain for most. Definitely gonna cost you a pretty penny for a private voice coach, or maybe a music class.

  7. Joe Moose
    Joe Moose
    February 26, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    There is a market for that, and it’s called the porn industry.

    • anon
      anon
      February 26, 2023 at 12:45 am | #

      well, other than flings or hookups but porn wise and amateur only fans and stuff you’d get money just for faking it lol

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      February 26, 2023 at 1:02 am | #

      From what I’ve heard, women in the porn industry tend to make a lot more money than the men in that industry, but I bet Joe would be ok with that.

      • Freezer
        Freezer
        February 26, 2023 at 2:13 am | #

        Unless you’re a James Deen-level name or are willing to do guy-guy or the really freaky shit, pay for male porn performers is ludicrously low. Like “Might as well donate plasma” low.

        Sex isn’t even that great, either: Demanding, drawn-out and in-front of at least a half-dozen others and with a partner you might not find that attractive (For a variety of reasons).

        Dude like Joe would probably quit in less than a handful of shoots.

        • MordWa
          MordWa
          February 26, 2023 at 3:13 am | #

          “…or so I’m…told?”

          • Jamie
            Jamie
            February 26, 2023 at 3:50 am | #

            Not everyone’s ashamed of having a clue about the porn indusry.

        • Michael L
          Michael L
          February 26, 2023 at 4:29 am | #

          Is this true? There are some pretty stringent requirements for guys in porn that really cut down available talent. Have a statistically large penis, capable of keeping an erection for a long time under awkward and stressful conditions. Cannot orgasm too quickly or too slowly. The number of guys who are physically capable of working in porn isn’t THAT high, and lack of supply jacks up wages.

          • Freezer
            Freezer
            February 26, 2023 at 4:50 am | #

            Depends on the production outfit. The more “entry level” companies go as low as $50 a scene (for men).

          • nightshade
            nightshade
            February 26, 2023 at 6:20 am | #

            that and most men start out in gay porn also

  8. jackiedu46k
    jackiedu46k
    February 26, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    You know i’ve heard there’s a very old proffession in that exact field!

  9. Mr. Random
    Mr. Random
    February 26, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    Someone who puts the pleasure and enjoyment of other people first isn’t exactly a negative thing, but maybe broaden out how you induce those feelings.

  10. TerribleTransit
    TerribleTransit
    February 26, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    All the signs are here. Time to get a degree as a mechanical engineer designing laundry machines, Joe.

  11. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    February 26, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

    Joe’s such a Dildo.

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      February 26, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

      Is that a Metalocalypse reference? 😆

      • Jodka
        Jodka
        February 26, 2023 at 12:26 am | #

        F-*guitar riff*ings dildos

        • MaximumZero
          MaximumZero
          February 26, 2023 at 4:27 pm | #

          It’s a grocery store, ya douchebags!

          …ah, I’m sorry about the douchebags, I gots low blood sugars.

  12. brionl
    brionl
    February 26, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

    Joe wants to be an Orgasmatron?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZvpIE5g5Fo

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      February 26, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

      I have no idea what I just watched, but every aspect of it was very British.

      • Rotunda
        Rotunda
        February 26, 2023 at 12:20 am | #

        _Sleeper_ by Woody Allen, American.

        • True Survivor
          True Survivor
          February 26, 2023 at 12:30 am | #

          My thanks.

          • brionl
            brionl
            February 26, 2023 at 12:38 am | #

            You didn’t recognize Woody, all dressed up in Botface?

  13. Juanoku
    Juanoku
    February 26, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

    Huh, Joe actively seeks developing
    We’ve come far

  14. Nono
    Nono
    February 26, 2023 at 12:21 am | #

    That’s actually a lot of sound advice, Danny.

    Boy if only you could have given yourself that advice when you were dating Dorothy.

    • Jodka
      Jodka
      February 26, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

      Sometimes you gotta live through it, to learn it.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 26, 2023 at 12:47 am | #

      He’s a pretty different guy, in terms of development, than he was back then.

      Dating Dorothy, Amazi-Girl/Amber, and then Sal, he’s honestly run the gamut of different girls, so no wonder he sees the importance of a varied approach.

  15. Jodka
    Jodka
    February 26, 2023 at 12:21 am | #

    Joe is going to become the first human dryer machine

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 26, 2023 at 12:48 am | #

      Rah, Rah, Rosenthal
      IU’s greatest sexin’ doll

  16. BBCC
    BBCC
    February 26, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

    That’s pretty solid advice. Nice going there, Dan the man.

  17. pope suburban
    pope suburban
    February 26, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

    Bahahaha the way his statement applies to Joyce and the dryer is perfection.

  18. SDRainbow
    SDRainbow
    February 26, 2023 at 12:23 am | #

    huh. I totally had him pegged as Finance.

    • Jodka
      Jodka
      February 26, 2023 at 12:33 am | #

      Well, he’s definitely pegged in one form or another.

    • anon
      anon
      February 26, 2023 at 12:47 am | #

      Well, it would be pretty fun if he took over leslie’s job one day lol

  19. Amós Batista
    Amós Batista
    February 26, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

    Joe doesn’t have idea of carrier until now. I never saw him talking something about his majoring in entire DoA.

    And I love Danny using neutral gender at second panel. Considering Joe could be talking about someone instead a girl.

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      February 26, 2023 at 12:39 am | #

      *career until now

  20. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    February 26, 2023 at 12:29 am | #

    Danny’s a really good friend. He’s definitely matured these last few months.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 26, 2023 at 12:52 am | #

      Definitely. He’s always had good in him, but I think he’s more self-assured these days.

  21. Grimey
    Grimey
    February 26, 2023 at 12:30 am | #

    Oddly enough, I think Joe would make a good sex/relationship therapist. It isn’t the case that he would bone every patient he has, but in trying to unlearn his own behaviors and what other people desire surface/internally? He might be able to offer more deep insight. Of course here in college he’d get some blowback, ‘oh sure you changed, now you’re trying to get laid as a sex doctor’ but he could really help people through their traumas because he has some of his own without quite realizing it yet.

    • Jodka
      Jodka
      February 26, 2023 at 12:34 am | #

      I’d love that for him honestly.

    • Steve C
      Steve C
      February 26, 2023 at 9:52 am | #

      Joyce could be his first client

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        February 26, 2023 at 11:47 am | #

        He immediately loses his license.

  22. Dana
    Dana
    February 26, 2023 at 12:39 am | #

    https://www.shortpacked.com/comic/speedster-jerkass

    • Freezer
      Freezer
      February 26, 2023 at 3:43 am | #

      The fact that Malaya probably didn’t even notice the “Oh, look; an iquana” burn made it even better.

    • Schpoonman
      Schpoonman
      February 26, 2023 at 5:14 am | #

      This comic has everything. Malaya being shut down, an iguana, and Malaya being listed last in the tags.

      I was going to make a comment about how the Flash can vibrate at superfast speeds, but Willis (and you) beat me to it.

      • NickG
        NickG
        February 26, 2023 at 7:49 am | #

        Malaya’s face in the last panel is the best thing.

  23. Cmasta1992
    Cmasta1992
    February 26, 2023 at 12:43 am | #

    Danny is dropping some real knowledge rn

    And Joe even in jest is taking this to heart it seems.

    Please don’t break my heart Willis

  24. Pocky
    Pocky
    February 26, 2023 at 12:45 am | #

    Well; do I have a job prospect for you!

  25. Jeff K!
    Jeff K!
    February 26, 2023 at 1:01 am | #

    Alt-text: Her name is Stacy X, and that woman has been through enough!

    • Daibhid C
      Daibhid C
      February 26, 2023 at 11:04 am | #

      Oops, missed this before I replied to Dara!

  26. Raeconteur
    Raeconteur
    February 26, 2023 at 1:03 am | #

    Oh, Joe, no. Don’t pigeonhole yourself and give up. I need this ship like burning, dammit.

  27. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    February 26, 2023 at 1:15 am | #

    Wow, our Danny has grown much compared to the early pages

  28. Dara
    Dara
    February 26, 2023 at 2:02 am | #

    Honestly that would be a better power than, idk, at least 1/5th of the actual X-Men, so…

    • Daibhid C
      Daibhid C
      February 26, 2023 at 10:57 am | #

      I hate that I know this, but in the Joe Casey era (slogan: “If you think this is bad, wait until we give the book to Chuck Austen!”), I’m pretty sure there was in fact an X-Man and former sex worker with this power, or as close as Casey could get to describing it as such.

  29. Crazy Lou
    Crazy Lou
    February 26, 2023 at 2:21 am | #

    You know, Joe, you have a prospective buyer in that market.

  30. Wereg
    Wereg
    February 26, 2023 at 2:23 am | #

    Dang, Danny really has grown.

  31. Liliet
    Liliet
    February 26, 2023 at 2:33 am | #

    Oh no, poor Danny…

    Something between his parents and all his subsequent daing misadventures kinda broke him, didn’t it? “Companionship” and “haivng fun together” does not make it on his list at all, even though they’re literally in college fuckiing around.

    • Steelbright
      Steelbright
      February 26, 2023 at 2:58 am | #

      I thought most of it was pretty solid advice but you’re right, those elements are kinda missing… Which is an oof. Not sure if that means he’s not even looking for them, or that he just didn’t think to talk about that, though.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 26, 2023 at 3:56 am | #

      I guess that he probably assumes Joe likes this person’s company if he’s even pursuing this, like maybe that’s just being taken as a given.

    • Tan
      Tan
      February 26, 2023 at 4:15 am | #

      That’s literally the first thing though. “Are they looking for only a boyfriend?” or these other possibilities. Joe focuses on potential futures, so Danny responds to that. Because it’s a conversation.

      • Steve C
        Steve C
        February 26, 2023 at 9:58 am | #

        Yeah, that’s what I got, too. The whole hanging out and having fun together comes under “only a boyfriend.” Which I’m guessing is what he has with Sal now and they’re both fine with it.

  32. SDRainbow
    SDRainbow
    February 26, 2023 at 2:36 am | #

    testing something please ignore this comment

    something something joe owes danny social capital something something

    • Clif
      Clif
      February 26, 2023 at 10:40 am | #

      This comment has been duly ignored.

      • Geneseepaws
        Geneseepaws
        February 26, 2023 at 12:56 pm | #

        I also have ignored the comment up above.

      • sdrainbow
        sdrainbow
        February 26, 2023 at 4:34 pm | #

        We appreciate your participation!

  33. Steelbright
    Steelbright
    February 26, 2023 at 2:55 am | #

    Danny has gotten over his confusion and is offering… Actually decent advice. Way to learn from experience, Dan.

  34. Slartibeast Button, BIA
    Slartibeast Button, BIA
    February 26, 2023 at 4:12 am | #

    Danny has a good point here. Don’t change yourself in pursuit of a specific person or in pursuit of some vague future type of person. Because A) you might not get them and B) You might get them and if falls apart because you are faking the change. Which you are if you were doing it for a goal of a person.

    Change yourself because *you* want to be someone different. If you *don’t* want to be someone different, don’t change.

    This is the point where I’m supposed to say something like “And if you are true to yourself you will find the love of your life unlooked for.” But I’m not going to because that is BS. You might find someone, you might not. That’s not the point. This is your life. It is the only life you get. Live it for yourself, not for a goal of another person.

    (Note that changing your behavior to avoid adverse consequences of that behavior isn’t the same a changing your self.)

    (Note also that “Live it for yourself” is not a license to harm or mistreat other people. Nor is is an excuse to evade your legitimate responsibilities.)

  35. ShellShockBP
    ShellShockBP
    February 26, 2023 at 4:19 am | #

    Wow, of course Joe’s dad is a bone doctor. “Okay nurse, let’s get this bone fixed up and then afterwards we can do that surgery!” *laugh track*

  36. Yarrr
    Yarrr
    February 26, 2023 at 5:17 am | #

    That’s cool he wants to ‘give’ orgasm, not just receive them. Joe can get it.

  37. Schpoonman
    Schpoonman
    February 26, 2023 at 5:19 am | #

    Joe’s a machine that dispenses orgasms, and Joyce is finding herself looking for orgasms. Unless we get another incredibly drastic twist, Joe’s also proven himself a safe sexual partner, regardless of other characters’ impressions of him.

    Time to see see Joyce’s agency in becoming a sexual being run up against other characters’ perception of her agency in choosing a sexual partner.

    I’m talking shit about Dorothy right now if that wasn’t clear.

    • vulcanodon
      vulcanodon
      February 26, 2023 at 7:49 am | #

      Look out, the League of Joyce Managers will descend on you wagging their fingers. Can’t have Joyce just exploring things on her own because her friends gave her some space.

      • Schpoonman
        Schpoonman
        February 26, 2023 at 3:04 pm | #

        Dorothy: “Alright, Joyce, there was a very awkward and unpleasant night where I barged into your room and stamped on a boundary you had reiterated only hours earlier that day, but we’re past that now, you have your own sexual agency.”

        “I choose to exercise my agency with Joe.”

        “No, not like that!”

  38. CJ
    CJ
    February 26, 2023 at 5:43 am | #

    Oh, Danny, you were doing so well (talking about yourself, I wonder if you know that.), but than took the worst turn.

  39. Suet
    Suet
    February 26, 2023 at 5:47 am | #

    People may change, but not Joe’s conventional attractiveness

    The Joementum is off to a great start, but not to where it goes

  40. Hazel
    Hazel
    February 26, 2023 at 6:09 am | #

    Identity confusion and poor self-image? In a college-aged kid? Huh.

    Put me down as hoping that Joe develops a sudden interest in robotics.

  41. vulcanodon
    vulcanodon
    February 26, 2023 at 7:51 am | #

    Good advice, but maybe thinking too far down the road. Just ask her out for pizza without a third wheel, spend some time together, and see how it goes.

    • Steelbright
      Steelbright
      February 26, 2023 at 10:42 pm | #

      This is excellent advice

  42. saltchocolate
    saltchocolate
    February 26, 2023 at 8:04 am | #

    Brilliant writing in Joe’s final line, Willis. Slow clap. 👏🏽

  43. Kaffeeteria
    Kaffeeteria
    February 26, 2023 at 8:09 am | #

    Little does he know that Julia Gray suddenly has a new hobby that includes orgasm-inducing machines.

  44. Nicoleandmaggie
    Nicoleandmaggie
    February 26, 2023 at 8:55 am | #

    Whoa Danny has taken all of Dorothy’s good advice powers. That explains a lot!

    • Nicoleandmaggie
      Nicoleandmaggie
      February 26, 2023 at 9:00 am | #

      Hmm people in the comments don’t think it’s good advice? But it really is. We like the trope of women fixing men with their love but the reality doesn’t really work that way.

      And yes, you can date casually while working on yourself but Joe has not made this sound like a casual thing. He wants to change to be what she wants without being sure what she wants, not to be what he wants.

  45. AlexaSpuds
    AlexaSpuds
    February 26, 2023 at 9:02 am | #

    that is horrible advice from Dan, you can know who you are and what you’re about even if you’re not sure what degree or job you want in the future, people are not defined by the piece of paper you hang on the wall at an office or at home

    • Steve C
      Steve C
      February 26, 2023 at 10:17 am | #

      I think he’s more reacting to Joe’s comment here. Saying Joe needs to figure himself out before/instead of changing for someone else IS NOT bad advice.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 26, 2023 at 10:52 am | #

      Someone’s career can be very important to them, though, is the issue. It’s a relevant data point for a non-zero amount of people, so it’s in fact worth bringing up here for his point, that people have tons of things they consider for what makes a desirable partner.

    • Daibhid C
      Daibhid C
      February 26, 2023 at 11:02 am | #

      Danny doesn’t, in fact, mention Joe’s major at all. Joe brings up his major in response to what Danny’s saying, Danny says “you need to figure yourself out” partly in response to that, and partly in response to the rest of the conversation, Joe again brings it round to “what should I be studying so I make enough money to be a good boyfriend?” and Danny answers that question, then reiterates that this isn’t the main point. He’s a good egg.

      (Speaking as someone who knew exactly what I wanted to study at Joe’s age, but had not, in fact, figured myself out at all.)

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      February 26, 2023 at 11:46 am | #

      No, but in addition to that not being what Danny said – figuring out what you want to study can be an important way to figure out what you’re really interested in university.

  46. Serendipity
    Serendipity
    February 26, 2023 at 10:08 am | #

    Danny please drop the net worth thing you’re sounding suspiciously like one of the worse HDBs

    • Steve C
      Steve C
      February 26, 2023 at 10:13 am | #

      Some women DO consider it, although granted I don’t believe you find many who do while in college (especially not as undergrads.)

      • Steve C
        Steve C
        February 26, 2023 at 10:15 am | #

        I’m sure there are men who consider in potential partners, too. Sorry.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 26, 2023 at 10:56 am | #

      I took that as a part of the idea of some people seeking partners they could settle down with, where what the person wants to do as a career is likely relevant to that decision-making progress. It’s not so much “gold digger” as “what kind of life can we reasonably plan for?”, which, I would not personally make a decision on who to date based on that, but many would, and do. This is especially true for someone who already has people they wish to provide for even before the subject of kids is broached, since yeah, love is great, but so is means to provide.

      Ironically, for beginning of the strip Joyce, this would have been 1,000 percent what she was looking for, a husband and provider.

  47. Chaucer59
    Chaucer59
    February 26, 2023 at 11:09 am | #

    Sounds like a great X-Man. The perfect accompaniment to Dr. X—Dr. O.

  48. Stephen Nedland
    Stephen Nedland
    February 26, 2023 at 11:25 am | #

    I’m fairly certain that is what, “Pornhub”, and “Onlyfans”, are for.

  49. HueSatLight
    HueSatLight
    February 26, 2023 at 1:09 pm | #

    They’re kind of going off on a tangent, I’m pretty sure him being undeclared freshman year isn’t going to be a dealbreaker with “Julia”. Danny brings it back home in panel 4 though, he learned the right lesson from all that.

  50. mrnoidea
    mrnoidea
    February 26, 2023 at 2:00 pm | #

    Gotta be honest, this story arc may hit too close to home for me. I relate to both Joe and Danny here. It’s true you don’t want to change yourself for someone’s sake–they may not care in the end, even if changing yourself was the right thing to do. But you still need to find value in yourself, however lonely you may be feeling atm.

    I wish there was more emphasis in mainstream media for situations where the protagonist does everything right and still fails…and life goes on anyway. Too often it feels necessary (can’t speak for everyone, only me) to overcompensate when you lose something you felt entitled to (“I thought for sure she would say yes!”), and then you decide you would rather be punished for doing something inappropriate/insensitive than to be punished for something outside of your control. In the end you spend more time untangling the bad behavior and resulting damage than doing what’s right or responsible.

    Joe may feel the need to change because he doesn’t know how to handle vulnerability and responsibility yet. And if he gets stuck in a loop worrying how he’ll fail, that further diminishes his ability to *be* vulnerable and responsible.

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      February 26, 2023 at 7:40 pm | #

      I understood and liked your feelings about this arc. Gladly, Joe and Danny have each other (they aren’t lonely, if I got your point), and I hope they help to grow together.

  51. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    February 26, 2023 at 4:33 pm | #

    I wonder how Sal is looking at Danny and if it’s the same for him.

  52. ElderlyMarxist
    ElderlyMarxist
    February 26, 2023 at 5:00 pm | #

    don’t have the energy to read all the comments so maybe someone’s already said this, but joe seems to have tragically low self-esteem beneath all the bravado 🙁

    • temperaryobsessor
      temperaryobsessor
      February 26, 2023 at 5:23 pm | #

      He does.
      My read.
      A good part his life he’s believed he’s not good enough to have an actual relationship. He doesn’t know how to be anything but a wannabe playboy, and he’s never really tried because he’s never thought he could.
      I think thats part of why he likes Joyce, because she see’s something in him besides that.
      The thing is he needs to want it for him not for her (except not wanting to hurt her) or he risks ending up like his dad.

  53. Axel
    Axel
    February 26, 2023 at 6:21 pm | #

    this is super adorable dramatic irony

  54. shork
    shork
    February 26, 2023 at 10:12 pm | #

    idk if Woody Guthrie would approve of my “this machine induces orgasms” guitar sticker

    • Felian
      Felian
      March 12, 2023 at 7:26 am | #

      the agenda:
      kill fascists
      induce orgasms

      (i hope these are not related)

  55. Diana Nock
    Diana Nock
    February 27, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    Looking forward to the upcoming love triangle between Joyce, Joe, and an imbalanced washing machine.

  56. ian livs
    ian livs
    March 2, 2023 at 2:49 pm | #

    Oof, as usual, this is weirdly well-timed. (The “people change” bit, not the machine bit.)

  57. Felian
    Felian
    March 12, 2023 at 7:25 am | #

    That is actually good advice from Danny!

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