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by David M Willis on February 27, 2023 at 12:01 am
  • 03 – Joementum
└ Tags: danny, joe

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    February 27, 2023 at 12:01 am | #

    I feel like I’ve drawn this exact comic before

  2. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    February 27, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    These two have never been more JD and Turk than they are right now. They’re often a little JD and Turk, but now they’re like 100%.

    • Paradoxius
      Paradoxius
      February 27, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

      ♫Guy love, between two guys…♫

  3. The Wellerman
    The Wellerman
    February 27, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    Awe…. 🙂

  4. Paradoxius
    Paradoxius
    February 27, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    Increasingly (shockingly) common Danny W

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      February 27, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

      He’s paid his dues in losing. He deserves at least a few years to be cool.

    • Lysbeth
      Lysbeth
      February 27, 2023 at 12:05 pm | #

      “… okay it’s Joyce”
      “CONSEQUENCES”

  5. Jess
    Jess
    February 27, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    the juxtaposition of Danny’s big smile with Joe’s cranky little frown in the last panel I’d absolutely sending me

    • Jess
      Jess
      February 27, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

      * is absolutely sending me. sigh

    • StClair
      StClair
      February 27, 2023 at 12:24 am | #

      Same.

    • Azhrei Vep
      Azhrei Vep
      February 27, 2023 at 7:06 pm | #

      Sending you … where, exactly?

  6. Bittersweet
    Bittersweet
    February 27, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    D’awwwwwwwe this one makes my heart feel happy

  7. Thag Simmons
    Thag Simmons
    February 27, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    Oh yeah he’s got it bad for her.

    • Pergola
      Pergola
      February 27, 2023 at 6:58 pm | #

      Joe grovels at the foot of her pedestal, hoping the Goddess will look down and notice him.

  8. The Wellerman
    The Wellerman
    February 27, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    ϞϞ(๑⚈ ․̫ ⚈๑)∩ 🥳🥳🥳

    Pokemon Day!!! Pokemon Day!!!
    Today today is Pokemon Day!!!
    How will you all celebrate!?!?
    27 years of Pokemon YAY!!!

    *plays “Pokemon Theatrical Theme” on hacked muzak*

  9. miz
    miz
    February 27, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    let’s be real: danny deserves this moment completely. in every true friendship there must be some amount of shit talking, and dan has weathered far more than his fair share during the course of the comic. let it happen, joe. ya boy has earned this.

  10. True Survivor
    True Survivor
    February 27, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    I like Joe’s shirt.

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      February 27, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

      I can’t, however, figure out if Danny is wearing only a long sleeve shirt with a light blue section bisecting the navy blue part OR if he is wearing both a long sleeve shirt and an undershirt that is the exact same dark navy as the lower part of the long sleeve shirt. This has been bothering me.

      • karinaisab
        karinaisab
        February 27, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

        You have left out the secret third option: he’s wearing one of those extremely cropped shirts that’s cut above the chest, for whatever reason

      • OBBWG
        OBBWG
        February 27, 2023 at 12:30 am | #

        Only a long sleeve shirt.

      • anon
        anon
        February 27, 2023 at 12:34 am | #

        isn’t it just a variation of a ‘baseball shirt’?

      • Tawdry Quirks
        Tawdry Quirks
        February 27, 2023 at 2:06 am | #

        It’s an undershirt of similar but not matching color. The bit above the neckband is #262c38, while the main color of the torso of Danny’s shirt is #3d4554, which is a much bluer shade. Even the shadow seen across his shirt today (#362f3b) doesn’t match the color above the lighter blue neckband. And yes, the palette for his outfit is very consistent across strips.

        • True Survivor
          True Survivor
          February 27, 2023 at 1:14 pm | #

          Wow, you put a lot of work into answering this question for me. Thank you so much. I like your bow-tie cat avatar.

          • Tawdry Quirks
            Tawdry Quirks
            February 28, 2023 at 3:47 am | #

            It wasn’t much work at all…I just have an eye dropper browser plugin (an essential for front-end work) that saves colors to a palette and shows hex values.

            And my avatar is Sahn from Saphie the One-Eyed Cat, who strongly resembles my late cat Henry in both looks and personality.

      • Johan
        Johan
        February 27, 2023 at 2:01 pm | #

        It’s a baseball shirt.

        • Johan
          Johan
          February 27, 2023 at 2:02 pm | #

          Oh I see the undershirt now. My b.

  11. Ray Radlein
    Ray Radlein
    February 27, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    Don’t worry, Joe, there’s nothing wrong with being a machine that produces orgasms, because that means you also wash and dry clothes for a quarter

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      February 27, 2023 at 1:29 pm | #

      Mom clothes for a nickle.

  12. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    February 27, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    I could read about Danny and Joe being friends all day long.

    As long as it’s in a good comic, anyway.

  13. anonymsly
    anonymsly
    February 27, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    Running aside, I think this genuinely does feel good to Danny. Not that Joe is twisting, though that’s fun, but that he said ‘shower me with you insecurities’ and Joe kind of DID. still eternal BFFs!

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 27, 2023 at 6:58 pm | #

      Yeah, Joe is grumbling a little, in general, but he’s being pretty sincere about this all.

  14. BBCC
    BBCC
    February 27, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

    Ahhh, learning emotional vulnerability. It sucks, you’re gonna hate it, and it’s gonna be annoyingly helpful.

  15. Dunedon
    Dunedon
    February 27, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

    so he shows up to the door early … this could be an interesting discovery …

    • anon
      anon
      February 27, 2023 at 12:38 am | #

      well i assume the door wouldn’t be unlocked but by the time he gets there i imagine joyce willl be hopefully calm versus even more flustered, as entertaining as that’d be

  16. Meagan
    Meagan
    February 27, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

    Ohhhhh…this is sweet.

  17. Carla's #2 Fan
    Carla's #2 Fan
    February 27, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

    I would say 5 minutes is okay

    • anon
      anon
      February 27, 2023 at 12:39 am | #

      depends on how far/soon the class is

      • Clif
        Clif
        February 27, 2023 at 2:16 am | #

        For walking someone to class, 5 to 10 minutes is okay. That’s assuming that it’s 5 to 10 minutes before leaving time, not class time. Class may be in the next building or on the other side of campus 30 minutes away. If you’re really unsure and want to know if it’s okay to show up early, there’s this nifty invention called the cell phone.

        That said, it really depends on the girl. Some may start getting antsy if there’s no sign of you 15 minutes before and some will still be getting g ready one minute before and down to the wire.

        • Carla's #2 Fan
          Carla's #2 Fan
          February 27, 2023 at 7:15 am | #

          Yeah I was definitely think before leaving time. I also agree to extending it to 10 min. 15 minutes seems like a lot and that’s coming from someone who is perpetually early.

  18. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    February 27, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

    The mortifying ordeal of being known, whereas in the past, people only tended to “know” Joe in the Biblical sense.

    • anon
      anon
      February 27, 2023 at 12:37 am | #

      emotional vulnerability is def a good thing in a partner as long as they don’t use their insecurities to manipualte others.

  19. HueSatLight
    HueSatLight
    February 27, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

    Answer the question though, Danny.

    • milu
      milu
      February 27, 2023 at 6:26 pm | #

      WHY WONT YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION DANNY

  20. goggleman64
    goggleman64
    February 27, 2023 at 12:28 am | #

    I fuckin’ love these two

  21. BOOSTER SHOT
    BOOSTER SHOT
    February 27, 2023 at 12:32 am | #

    SO CUTE MORE JOE DANNY HUGS PLZ

    • milu
      milu
      February 27, 2023 at 6:30 pm | #

      Tomorrow: joe and danny having a hug for four panels straight
      Comment section: AKGHFJSDKHGGGGHJGJXZ

      • milu
        milu
        February 27, 2023 at 7:31 pm | #

        (three distressed commenters: is danny just gonna ignore joe’s question then??? What is going on?!? 😳)

  22. anon
    anon
    February 27, 2023 at 12:32 am | #

    lol well if anything, it’d be great to go asap to not risk being late

  23. Wack'd
    Wack'd
    February 27, 2023 at 12:42 am | #

    Responding to the alt text: as far as material published on the internet goes, yes.

  24. Carms
    Carms
    February 27, 2023 at 12:43 am | #

    I lov them

  25. Nono
    Nono
    February 27, 2023 at 12:59 am | #

    I think if Joe punched Danny on the shoulder he’s end up in the hospital.

  26. Keulen
    Keulen
    February 27, 2023 at 1:13 am | #

    This is sweet, but maybe Danny could actually answer the question too.

    • milu
      milu
      February 27, 2023 at 6:32 pm | #

      Why danny won’t answer joe’s question may remain forever a tantalizing and ominous mystery

  27. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    February 27, 2023 at 1:19 am | #

    I mean, I get that we’re getting in digs at Joe’s social and emotional hangups, but no unsolicited hugging of someone who clearly doesn’t want it Danny.

    • Otl1973
      Otl1973
      February 27, 2023 at 2:18 am | #

      I think they’re close enough friends that he gets a pass on that.

      • Azhrei Vep
        Azhrei Vep
        February 27, 2023 at 7:11 pm | #

        Nnnno. No one’s close enough friends for that. Nobody should be subjected to such an awful, horrifically uncomfortable expression of affection, unless they asked for it.

  28. Regalli
    Regalli
    February 27, 2023 at 1:42 am | #

    Dumbing of Age Book 13: Shower Me With Your Insecurities!

    • Steelbright
      Steelbright
      February 27, 2023 at 2:06 am | #

      Hear, hear

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      February 27, 2023 at 2:17 am | #

      Well damn you’re right ☺️

      You celebrating Pokémon Day this year Regalli?

  29. Steelbright
    Steelbright
    February 27, 2023 at 2:05 am | #

    Just answer the question Dan… Hahaha this is precious tho

  30. Zaxares
    Zaxares
    February 27, 2023 at 2:57 am | #

    I’d say 5-10 mins early is ideal. It shows you’re a responsible person who’s on time but is also wise enough to give some extra leeway in case of unexpected delays. 15 is acceptable only if you were going to do something beforehand that finished earlier than expected (and then you should be prepared to wait for another 5-10 mins for them to be ready.) Anything earlier than that is starting to be too early.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      February 27, 2023 at 6:14 am | #

      What is this… “early” of which you speak?

  31. Amós Batista
    Amós Batista
    February 27, 2023 at 3:10 am | #

    Let’s take off Joe and Joyce aside for a moment and focus on his friendship with Danny.

    Joe never have talked about feelings with his best friend. He’s always a stupid jock. I remember this strip in particular.
    But, even unfair to him, Danny has kept together to Joe. And, without big moment, each day after, Danny has grown as a human and a partner.

    Today, it’s the great day: Joe has finally conceded the victory to Danny, that’s passing advices and giving hugs to him.

    Today’s a great strip. To remember to be better to my friends. To always reach out those I don’t have sexual thoughts, but that I must have intimacy.
    To give hug to a boy like me, that’s angry or depressed. To try to save some man to the very know abyss of hate that treat our generation.

    Today is a good day, Danny won the crown.

  32. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    February 27, 2023 at 3:49 am | #

    it’s not like it’s only gonna be the 2 of yous, anyway

  33. nightshade
    nightshade
    February 27, 2023 at 4:02 am | #

    wow joes becoming human being

  34. Acher4
    Acher4
    February 27, 2023 at 4:18 am | #

    Danny and Joe hugging!
    It’s a Walkyverse miracle!
    😛 😀 awwww

  35. Taffy
    Taffy
    February 27, 2023 at 5:04 am | #

    Danny’s being really toxic right now, encouraging Joe to be emotionally available like this. He’s gone too far.

    • milu
      milu
      February 27, 2023 at 6:08 pm | #

      Yeah. Joe doesn’t owe him the disclosure of his insecurities. It’s like Danny thinks he’s entitled to Joe’s vulnerability. Learn some boundaries, Danny! Joe is explicitly stating he wants you to stop! Very disturbing interaction between these two human persons.

      • Clif
        Clif
        February 27, 2023 at 6:18 pm | #

        Y’all slay me.

  36. Pocky
    Pocky
    February 27, 2023 at 5:09 am | #

    Bruh, you gotta hug your bros sometimes

  37. Hazel
    Hazel
    February 27, 2023 at 5:46 am | #

    I love these two adorable dorks.

  38. Doc Harleen
    Doc Harleen
    February 27, 2023 at 6:01 am | #

    This is sweet but also Danny is kinda centring himself in Joe’s sincere request for help so maybe Danny you should keep these thoughts to yourself and just answer your buddy’s questions.

    • Adept
      Adept
      February 27, 2023 at 3:14 pm | #

      Agreed. He’s not doing this part particularly well.

      • Taffy
        Taffy
        February 27, 2023 at 3:18 pm | #

        He’s doing fine?? It’s a conversation between BFFs, not therapy. He’s not a rotating desk fan.

        • milu
          milu
          February 27, 2023 at 6:10 pm | #

          BOLD

        • DailyBrad
          DailyBrad
          February 27, 2023 at 6:55 pm | #

          Agreed.

          • milu
            milu
            February 27, 2023 at 7:26 pm | #

            BOLD!!!!!

  39. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    February 27, 2023 at 6:55 am | #

    Joe has skipped the chapter on “dipping he pigtails into the inkwell”! Good, as that was never cool, and became “archaic” decades ago.

    Jumping ahead to “walk her to class”? Intriguing.

  40. Nicoleandmaggie
    Nicoleandmaggie
    February 27, 2023 at 7:40 am | #

    It’s the Midwest the answer is it’s never too early. Although [obligatory negative aspersions on Indiana from midwesterner from another state].

  41. Joy
    Joy
    February 27, 2023 at 7:53 am | #

    Tsundere Joe

  42. vulcanodon
    vulcanodon
    February 27, 2023 at 8:44 am | #

    Awwwww… I’m a sucker for a redemption arc, and Joe’s has been long and convincing. Made more realistic by the people who aren’t having it.

    Also good job Danny

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      February 27, 2023 at 1:47 pm | #

      You gotta remember it’s been years for us but only a few weeks in comic time. It has been January for them since (checks notes) 2020 for us.

  43. smolgrlboi
    smolgrlboi
    February 27, 2023 at 10:22 am | #

    I really really like this scene between these two boys. Yeah Joe is hiding that it’s Joyce but that’s fine, I hid the true identity of plenty of my crushes out of similar insecurities. Just a nice sweet little moment between friends.

    • anon
      anon
      February 27, 2023 at 8:04 pm | #

      danny doesn’t rly have a connection with joyce other than telling her “i have a hat now” and that awkward chat at halloween (tho he might be jealous he couldn’t get him to open up as quickly [“with you it only took two weeks” or so] but i can imagine not saying anything til there’s more of a step, though i imagine he’d be cool with it in the long run since Sal doesn’t have an issue with Joyce

  44. Bob
    Bob
    February 27, 2023 at 11:20 am | #

    It’s awkward when you realize that the entire comic is Joyce overcoming her relationship/intimate hangups with a bunch of filler characters.

    Except Joe. Joe is the best.

    • Clif
      Clif
      February 27, 2023 at 6:26 pm | #

      No, no. The entire comic has been about Dorothy coming to terms the reality of her ambitions and Carla demonstrating her awesomeness.

      Also Mike died.

      • milu
        milu
        February 27, 2023 at 6:36 pm | #

        Wait Mike WHAT

  45. Alex
    Alex
    February 27, 2023 at 11:54 am | #

    I think it’s a positive sign that instead of deflecting with something about sex, he asks a practical question about how to be a good boyfriend.

  46. Yakumo
    Yakumo
    February 27, 2023 at 1:07 pm | #

    I want to say you have drawn Joe hugging Danny some time in the early versre(s). Because he was overcome with emotion at something ill- something like they had to go to strip joint of school/work (I mean, I never saw that, but something like that).

    • Alex
      Alex
      February 27, 2023 at 3:46 pm | #

      A strip joint of schoolwork?

      • milu
        milu
        February 27, 2023 at 6:21 pm | #

        A strip joint of schoolwork.

        • Clif
          Clif
          February 27, 2023 at 6:29 pm | #

          I’m not seeing any links.

          • milu
            milu
            February 27, 2023 at 6:43 pm | #

            The link only shows itself to the pure. Renounce your fearful quest for meaning, loosen your sickly grip on logic, only then may you perceive the Link.

            • Yakumo
              Yakumo
              March 2, 2023 at 9:49 pm | #

              No no. Just something I am pretty sure I saw from the whole prior verse(s) rerun starting with Roomies (and the rerun was when I first saw it, since I only started reading toward the end of Shortpacked! some time before DoA started). I am not willing to take the time to look back to find it. I just remember Joe hugging Dan from something that was worth being emotional by his standards

  47. lia
    lia
    February 27, 2023 at 3:26 pm | #

    alt text made me sad 🙁 comic made me glad 🙂

  48. Daniel M Ball
    Daniel M Ball
    February 27, 2023 at 3:40 pm | #

    I sympathize with Joe here.

  49. sdrainbow
    sdrainbow
    February 27, 2023 at 4:17 pm | #

    joooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooe

    this is so cute i love it

  50. Chaucer59
    Chaucer59
    February 27, 2023 at 4:18 pm | #

    This is where Danny leans in and whispers in Joe’s ear: “You know, men have nipples, too.”

  51. poyo
    poyo
    February 27, 2023 at 4:25 pm | #

    awww, joe !! youre becoming a real boy !!!

    • milu
      milu
      February 27, 2023 at 6:16 pm | #

      WAIT A MINUTE
      was pinocchio’s nose, which lengthens when he’s being dishonest, always an indictment of the eroticization of insincerity inherent in heteronormative seduction scripts???

      Well, it is now

      • Clif
        Clif
        February 27, 2023 at 6:32 pm | #

        Now see, I always assumed it was the symbolic eroticization of noses.

        • milu
          milu
          February 27, 2023 at 6:45 pm | #

          Of wooden noses though. Nudge wink!

  52. ElderlyMarxist
    ElderlyMarxist
    February 27, 2023 at 5:21 pm | #

    d’awwwww (never has my gravatar been less accurate)

    • Council
      Council
      February 27, 2023 at 6:44 pm | #

      Considering it’s of a young American black woman, and you are an old communist, that’s probably saying something!

      • milu
        milu
        February 27, 2023 at 7:25 pm | #

        Haha silly Council, you got your decades mixed up! We’re in the 2020’s, not the 1950’s! Americans are allowed to be communists now.

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          February 27, 2023 at 10:59 pm | #

          Very much true! Speaking as a Marxist Pokemon-loving alien parasite here! 😊

  53. Nathan
    Nathan
    February 27, 2023 at 11:06 pm | #

    Awwwwwwww 🥰

    • Nathan
      Nathan
      February 27, 2023 at 11:31 pm | #

      New gravatar!

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        February 27, 2023 at 11:41 pm | #

        So glad for you, but tbh imma miss the Dina one, but oh well

  54. Megan Rivera
    Megan Rivera
    February 28, 2023 at 4:53 pm | #

    Aww the hug. Awwww. C’mon. My heart. ♥♥♥♥ These boys are good boys.

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