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June 14, 2026

Sanctum

by David M Willis on October 1, 2023 at 12:01 am
  • 01 – Everybody's Looking for Nothing
└ Tags: amber, dina, dorothy, walky

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  1. Icalasari
    Icalasari
    October 1, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    Dorothy. Dorothy, redundancy is important to have

    • Nono
      Nono
      October 1, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

      In fact, statistical redundancy helps reinforce results rather than it being attributed to a fluke.

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        October 1, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

        What do flatworms have to do with statistics?

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      October 1, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

      Dorothy, Dorothy. Redundancy. Redundancy is important. Important to have.

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        October 1, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

        Important to have what?

        • Stanistani
          Stanistani
          October 1, 2023 at 1:23 am | #

          Planaria.

          • clif
            clif
            October 1, 2023 at 2:00 am | #

            You’re thinking of flatworms, but that was just a fluke.

            • Roborat
              Roborat
              October 2, 2023 at 3:03 pm | #

              I see what you did there.

      • wwwhhattt
        wwwhhattt
        October 1, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

        It is in fact important to have redundancy, Dorothy.

    • Bruno
      Bruno
      October 1, 2023 at 12:50 am | #

      Organisational redundancies aren’t a great idea when you have a labour shortage, but what she doesn’t know is that Garbage Roof was dissolved, making this not one of those.

    • Angel
      Angel
      October 1, 2023 at 1:18 am | #

      i mean she prolly has a redundant amount of binders

    • Ray Radlein
      Ray Radlein
      October 1, 2023 at 6:38 am | #

      Exactly! What if garbage roof were occupied by other people when needed? Having a backup location would be a useful redundancy!

      This is why highly-optimized systems are extremely fragile: They treat necessary safety margins as redundancies to be done away with. Witness the multiple cascading disasters that Just-in-Time inventory procedures have been responsible for.

      • StClair
        StClair
        October 1, 2023 at 2:16 pm | #

        Exactly. I was thinking the same thing.
        You want to see what zero-margin, zero-redundancy gets you? Check out “The Cold Equations.”

        Do not read “The Cold Equations”, it is a bad story that’s just as contrived (to deliver its “moral”) as the ones it was written in response to.

      • Ana Chronistic
        Ana Chronistic
        October 1, 2023 at 11:58 pm | #

        surprised no one mentioned multiple bathrooms aren’t “redundancies”

    • Mark
      Mark
      October 1, 2023 at 8:49 am | #

      Well, a certain amount of overcapacity is what we call “resilience,” but I have never seen Garbage Roof operating anywhere near its theoretical capacity.

    • Durandal_1707
      Durandal_1707
      October 1, 2023 at 4:50 pm | #

      If it weren’t for redundancy, Worf wouldn’t have survived his spine surgery…

    • Felis Dee
      Felis Dee
      October 2, 2023 at 8:32 am | #

      Structural redundancy can be the difference between life and death in an earthquake or a hurricane situation.

  2. Nono
    Nono
    October 1, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    Those darn boomers, showing off their second garbage roof. I’m still renting!

    • quark
      quark
      October 1, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

      “the average dumbing of age character has 0.1 garbage roofs” is a statistical error. walky and amber, aka the collective garbage roof georg, with 2 garbage roofs, are statistical anomalies and should not be counted

      • clif
        clif
        October 1, 2023 at 2:04 am | #

        There are a lot of characters. 0.1 seems a little high

        • TerribleTransit
          TerribleTransit
          October 1, 2023 at 9:57 am | #

          Given that Garbage Roof has had at least a dozen participants, that can cover for 120 characters before it drops below a 0.1 average. If anyone has a comprehensive list of character tags I guess we could figure it out.

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      October 1, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

      This made me smile. Thank you.

  3. Animedingo
    Animedingo
    October 1, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    Walky knows a thing about dorothy and ambers sanctums

    • elebenty
      elebenty
      October 1, 2023 at 12:50 am | #

      As I can imagine Lucy saying… with that very face.

      • eh, whatever
        eh, whatever
        October 1, 2023 at 4:24 am | #

        Thread won, if I do say so myself with that very face.

        • Rose by Any Other Name
          Rose by Any Other Name
          October 1, 2023 at 8:57 am | #

          **golf clap**

  4. Just an Armadillo
    Just an Armadillo
    October 1, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    The sanctum is gone, like nachito dust in the wind…

    • clif
      clif
      October 1, 2023 at 1:34 am | #

      It wasn’t all the wind. Amber helped a little.

    • Aura
      Aura
      October 1, 2023 at 9:09 pm | #

      Nachito dust. Wind. Dude.

  5. quark
    quark
    October 1, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    doesnt being an organizational redundancy just make it more worthy of being garbage roof 2, though? walkys a step ahead of you dorothy

  6. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    October 1, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    I think Dorothy’s more upset about the organizational redundancy than she was the prospect of Walky and Amber doing something naughty.

    …Hmmm, considering the occasionally remarked upon similarities between Dorothy and Amber, do you think the reason Dorothy was angry at the idea of Walky and Amber hooking up after he rejected her was that technically makes HER a redundancy?

    As if Dorothy wasn’t already in the middle of an identity crisis.

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      October 1, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

      It’s quite possible, given that two of her exes have rebounded onto Amber thus far.

    • justin8448
      justin8448
      October 1, 2023 at 2:00 am | #

      I think Dorothy’s immediate reaction was to her presumption that Walky was cheating on Lucy, or at least cheating-adjacent, or just generally putting himself into a situation that Lucy would not be happy with.

      • adam Black
        adam Black
        October 1, 2023 at 7:27 pm | #

        Which is not a thing Dorothy cared about two days ago when she begged him to cheat

    • Quirdry Tawks
      Quirdry Tawks
      October 1, 2023 at 10:21 pm | #

      “YOU call it redundancy… I call it a backup plan!”

  7. poofdepoof
    poofdepoof
    October 1, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    Walky is asserting himself against Dorothy a lot these days!

    • Schpoonman
      Schpoonman
      October 1, 2023 at 12:23 am | #

      The first time Dorothy called a pause, she did a not-great job at keeping that boundary. After their proper break-up and Walky getting together with Lucy (who I do think work together well if they don’t have as much chemistry [yet] as Wam-Bam Thank You Ma’am), he’s done a better job at reminding her they’re just friends now, with the ceiling on personal interaction and influence that implies.

      • Archieve
        Archieve
        October 1, 2023 at 1:14 am | #

        I kind of like his come back about Dorothy liking a level of self destruction, not outright telling everyone else but a reminder that’s he’s the one whoes been better a keeping boundaries lately.

        • justin8448
          justin8448
          October 1, 2023 at 2:02 am | #

          Dorothy has definitely been strolling along the edge of self-destruction lately.

      • cbwroses
        cbwroses
        October 1, 2023 at 12:08 pm | #

        Wam-Bam Thank You Amb 😅

  8. Steamweed
    Steamweed
    October 1, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    Garbage Roof is for lyfe.

    Sanctum o’ Nothin’ is temporary. Fleeting, even. Here today; gone in one bag’s time.

  9. Shorduie
    Shorduie
    October 1, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    I really like how Amber is the most socially inept person in the room and yet she’s the only one reacting appropriately to the situation.

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      October 1, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

      Eat the nachitos while everyone is distracted? I dunno, it seems Dino is reacting with the most chill, provided her sexual charisma is acknowledged.

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        October 1, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

        Ok. I’m out. I saw my egregious misspelling of Dina’s name and must now flee in shame.

    • Angel
      Angel
      October 1, 2023 at 1:16 am | #

      https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/4dfb724a-3b17-404d-8c85-8360d8fd94a4 “I’m eating because i’m very uncomfortable”

    • TulipKitten
      TulipKitten
      October 1, 2023 at 12:53 pm | #

      I think Amber was definitely trying to bang here and Walky doesn’t get it. That’s why she had the look of sheer and utter horror there while Walky is arguing semantics and doesn’t seem to give a shit that Dorothy is there. Dorothy is probably a little jealous and hurt because she threw herself at Walky, and here he is doing something that looks kinda suspicious with Amber.

      That means Dina is the only one reacting appropriately to all of this.

  10. NGPZ
    NGPZ
    October 1, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    Oh no!!! This is the last Dina strip of the storyline, and Walky about to run out of nachitos!!!! 🥺

    • a/snow/mous/e
      a/snow/mous/e
      October 1, 2023 at 1:46 am | #

      turns out the monster at the end of this storyline was Dorothy all along

  11. brumagem
    brumagem
    October 1, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    Listen, some redundancy is good. If garbage roof literally can’t contain all your feelings of self loathing it makes sense to create another space for decompression and dissociation

    • Angel
      Angel
      October 1, 2023 at 1:20 am | #

      well, this is more of a chill sesh than some self destructive bad behavior, as far as we know i don’t think ambers disassociated at all unless she just does ever roller derby practice or so

    • Tan
      Tan
      October 1, 2023 at 1:27 am | #

      More practically, Garbage Roof is outdoors and it is winter.

      • Rose by Any Other Name
        Rose by Any Other Name
        October 1, 2023 at 8:59 am | #

        And Garbage Roof lacks outlets for video game devices and a giant dinosaur plushy to lean against.

  12. Nono
    Nono
    October 1, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    …Huh, is it just me, or has Walky’s lexicon almost been reading like he’s picked up Sal’s acccent? With the truncated words and the “yer”s.

    ‘Course it’s probably just meant to be like a lazy drawl rather than a southern one.

    • Laura
      Laura
      October 1, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

      It’s a solidarity drawl with his sister.

    • Mark
      Mark
      October 1, 2023 at 9:07 am | #

      There are regional accents within Indiana. Some claim that city folk speak English and country folk speak Hoosier. There is a rural accent that’s not the same as “Southern” but has enough features in common with it to confuse the eye, if not the ear.

    • cbwroses
      cbwroses
      October 1, 2023 at 12:06 pm | #

      I’m reasonably sure he’s been talking like that since the beginning of the comic.

  13. Taffy
    Taffy
    October 1, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    Goddamn, it’s just some video games.and chips. Why’s it have to be a fuckin’ Thing™?

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      October 1, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

      Her big brain loves problem solving and organizing, but right now she really gotta turn to relaxation mode (either said than done for a ND brain)

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        October 1, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

        *easier

        Guess I shouldn’t be commenting and coding at the same time heh

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      October 1, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

      “Why’s it have to be a Fuckin’ Thing (R)?”

      Oh we aren’t that lucky. 🥲

    • Angel
      Angel
      October 1, 2023 at 2:13 am | #

      it shouldn’t be but it is a red flag for ppl to be like ” don’t even look at another girl in a relationship” although usually it’s from the gf and not someone else in the friend group lol

      • zee
        zee
        October 1, 2023 at 11:49 am | #

        Or commenters on r/relationships

    • cbwroses
      cbwroses
      October 1, 2023 at 12:04 pm | #

      John Carpenter’s The Thing was monstrous enough.
      How much worse would it be if it was John Carpenter’s The Fuckin’ Thing?

  14. Grimey
    Grimey
    October 1, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    I…Mmm. Is Dorothy upset that she found Walky and Amber like this or is she upset that she doesn’t get to have a level of privilege that Amber enjoys but probably doesn’t even know she enjoys. The longer this has played out, the more it reads like Walky and Amber can actually be friends and have a level of zen just because they deal with life similarly. Dorothy does not so she gets no garbage roof or sanctum…She has no place to truly unwind, no way of really making a ‘break’ count.

    I kinda hope this devolves into her asking them how do they do it.

    • Steelbright
      Steelbright
      October 1, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

      I like this read. Seems accurate that Dorothy isn’t actually upset about what she is acting upset about… and now you’ve put that idea in my head i hope it happens…. Which probably means something much less healthy is gonna happen instead, heh.

    • Just an Armadillo
      Just an Armadillo
      October 1, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

      That would indeed be the optimal outcome. Dorothy is making a big fuss over all this nothing, so learning how to decompress would be great for her.

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      October 1, 2023 at 1:01 am | #

      Chapter title probably doesn’t have anything to do with Walky and what he’s looking for or with whom he can find it.

    • Otl1973
      Otl1973
      October 1, 2023 at 1:04 am | #

      I think she’d get it if she happened to own a Switch. It was clear that Walky’s initial intent was not to stay, but leave with the Switch (and the nachitos). But he was willing to deal with Amber’s rules.

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        October 1, 2023 at 1:25 pm | #

        “clear” as in not clear. he offered to share a bag of chips from how far away? Maybe it’s the conclusion you came to quickly, but no. not clear.

    • DashWallkick
      DashWallkick
      October 1, 2023 at 1:18 am | #

      The fact that she’s litigating what does and does not count as “Garbage roof” because she cannot fathom the idea of slacking in the abstract tells me this is likely where it’s going.

      Would be a remarkably wholesome resolution to her learning how to be selfish. Walky doesn’t do anything other than explain that doing nothing is its own reward, and if she’s *never* done “nothing” then that explains why she’s so miserable right now. She feels like if she lets go at any moment, she’ll unwind.

      • Mark
        Mark
        October 1, 2023 at 9:12 am | #

        OTOH this is Dorothy. She will organize her slacking and execute it scientifically. Could be bad, very bad.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      October 1, 2023 at 9:09 am | #

      Would Dorothy even allow herself to unwind if she had a space to do so? Or would she just get progressively more agitated and restless because she’s not leveraging that time to its full potential?

      • StClair
        StClair
        October 1, 2023 at 2:25 pm | #

        an engine in neutral, over-revving…

  15. sakamism
    sakamism
    October 1, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    “Place where we can do nothing” is a lot healthier than “place where we can be pieces of shit.” Baby steps, people. Maybe one day Walky and Amber will make a “Zone of Mutual Self-Improvement” and they’ll be ready to date again.

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      October 1, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

      Sounds a LOT healthier than a pact of self-destruction.

      • Bruno
        Bruno
        October 1, 2023 at 12:49 am | #

        I don’t think so. The idea of a space dedicated to being somehow inadequate sucks.

        • Archieve
          Archieve
          October 1, 2023 at 1:19 am | #

          Yeah Walkys and Amber’s thing has always been to hangout without the pressure of living up to expectations. Maybe zone of self acceptance is a possibility in the future.

        • Decidedly Orthogonal
          Decidedly Orthogonal
          October 1, 2023 at 6:02 pm | #

          Fair. I meant the zone of self improvement but acknowledge the lack of clarity in my first statement.

  16. Steelbright
    Steelbright
    October 1, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

    I feel like Amber is still looking way more guilty than the situation warrants, i wonder what’s going on in her head

    • Puppeteer Nessus
      Puppeteer Nessus
      October 1, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

      She did force Walky sit next to her while she is pants-free. Trappin him in her seductive web. A web she baited with a Switch, chips and sex dinosaur. And the lure of Nuthin.

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        October 1, 2023 at 12:21 am | #

        Ooohhhh. Is THAT what people mean by ‘bate and switch?

      • Otl1973
        Otl1973
        October 1, 2023 at 1:08 am | #

        I think the “sitting next to” was necessary to play Mario – which I think Amber is always willing to – and to share the nachitos – which she didn’t want to (she wanted them all) but agreed to. It doesn’t seem to me that she has any residual interest in him “romantically”.

      • Mr D phone posting
        Mr D phone posting
        October 1, 2023 at 4:48 am | #

        The lure of nutting

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        October 1, 2023 at 9:01 am | #

        Amber is secretly an Orion confirmed?

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      October 1, 2023 at 12:23 am | #

      My guess is that Dorothy suddenly walked in, acting judge-y, and Amber has social anxiety.

      • Archieve
        Archieve
        October 1, 2023 at 1:33 am | #

        Yeah, Dorothy’s aura of parental disapproval will have that effect. Much to her own determent, because I don’t see Amber being in the mood for mindles fun afterwards.

      • justin8448
        justin8448
        October 1, 2023 at 2:08 am | #

        I think in addition Amber realizes that this situation could look bad to someone willing to see it badly, and her immediate reaction is anxiety. Meanwhile Walky plays it cool without pausing for a breath.

    • Otl1973
      Otl1973
      October 1, 2023 at 1:12 am | #

      Realizing that her having finished the nachitos means Mario playing is over?

    • Johan
      Johan
      October 1, 2023 at 1:18 am | #

      She’s looking guilty because she finished off the chips.

    • Bash
      Bash
      October 1, 2023 at 1:24 am | #

      Social anxiety.

    • Mark
      Mark
      October 1, 2023 at 9:17 am | #

      My take is: 1. there are now three other people in my room; 2. they are requiring attention; 3. surprise! the bathroom door burst open and a wild Dorothy appeared, breathing fire; 4. what are you on about, Dorothy? 5. come to think of it, does this situation look a little weird?

      All at the same time.

    • cbwroses
      cbwroses
      October 1, 2023 at 11:59 am | #

      She ate the majority of the chips and just finished him as he was signaling their death flag.

      • cbwroses
        cbwroses
        October 1, 2023 at 12:00 pm | #

        *finished THEM

  17. Cholma
    Cholma
    October 1, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

    Quick Dina! Use your teleport powers to go to the store and buy more Nachitos! Lots & lots of Nachitos.

  18. Quirdry Tawks
    Quirdry Tawks
    October 1, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

    I now realize what my life is lacking… :O

    • clif
      clif
      October 1, 2023 at 1:40 am | #

      Nachitos?

      • Nicoleandmaggie
        Nicoleandmaggie
        October 1, 2023 at 6:31 am | #

        Doritos is now making a mini version which are perfect.

        • Quirdry Tawks
          Quirdry Tawks
          October 1, 2023 at 10:16 pm | #

          Dorititos?

  19. True Survivor
    True Survivor
    October 1, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

    I guess Amber didn’t get breakfast yet. Why are they sitting around playing video games instead of eating? That seems like a very unhealthy practice I have certainly never ever done – definetly.

    • Angel
      Angel
      October 1, 2023 at 2:15 am | #

      i’m guessing it’d be a typical weekend for her even without walky unless they had some thing as a snack that’d be decent but idk how ‘healthy’ college cafeteria options are but in retrospect i’m surprised more ppl weren’t unhealthy growing up on sugary cereals in america

      • Mark
        Mark
        October 1, 2023 at 9:21 am | #

        Don’t look at me; I’ve always liked oatmeal and Shredded Wheat.

      • cbwroses
        cbwroses
        October 1, 2023 at 11:57 am | #

        Ethan and Mike were shown trying to get her to eat early in the comic, so her forgoing food while she does stuff in her room seems to be a habit.

  20. JA
    JA
    October 1, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

    It’s hard to tell if Dorothy or Amber is handling this worse.

    • Coatl
      Coatl
      October 1, 2023 at 12:26 am | #

      I think both

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      October 1, 2023 at 8:59 am | #

      I think Dorothy’s handling it worse.

      Amber’s just playing Mario Kart and eating corn chips.

  21. Schpoonman
    Schpoonman
    October 1, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

    Garbage Roof is more a state of being, you can take it with you. In a way, Dorothy is breaking GR rules. Gotta check that… Cleanliness at the door?

  22. Dana
    Dana
    October 1, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

    Walky is technically correct. The best kind of correct!

    • cbwroses
      cbwroses
      October 1, 2023 at 11:55 am | #

      “Ha! You’ve activated my trap card! I counter your “worst kind of redundancy” with “the best kind of correct”!

  23. sdrainbow
    sdrainbow
    October 1, 2023 at 12:21 am | #

    okay, i’m gonna ask the question no one has been brave enough to ask

    are nachitos a real thing, or are they doritos with the serial numbers filed off

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      October 1, 2023 at 12:21 am | #

      Yes.

      • a/snow/mous/e
        a/snow/mous/e
        October 1, 2023 at 1:50 am | #

        They’re called Nachitos in the world where Dorothy lives, and they’re called Doritos in the [real] world where Nachothy lives.

        • Just an Armadillo
          Just an Armadillo
          October 1, 2023 at 2:09 am | #

          You’ve done spectacular work here.

          • milu
            milu
            October 1, 2023 at 9:32 am | #

            Agreed, this is top-notch, chef’s kiss

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      October 1, 2023 at 12:24 am | #

      Sorry for my earlier incomplete response. I should have said, “yes.”

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        October 1, 2023 at 12:25 am | #

        Or at least they were, until Amber ate them all!

    • Schpoonman
      Schpoonman
      October 1, 2023 at 12:24 am | #

      Googling “Nachitos” gives me a bunch of hits for various restaurants, and one hit for Walkypedia.

    • Angel
      Angel
      October 1, 2023 at 2:17 am | #

      well nachitos would literally mean little nachos so seems like something that could be flavored and packaged into chips if not like a ‘slider’ version of nachos like how sliders are to burgers

      • Alan in DC
        Alan in DC
        October 1, 2023 at 8:24 am | #

        If some company actually introduces a product called Nachitos and doesn’t do their due diligence to see if the name is being used elsewhere, that’s gonna be quite the payday for ol’ Davey W.

        • Mano308gts
          Mano308gts
          October 1, 2023 at 9:25 am | #

          Nachitos have existed, as noted above, in the restaurant sphere for quite some time; as such the word is not likely to be trademarkable.

    • Mturtle7
      Mturtle7
      October 1, 2023 at 2:46 pm | #

      I’ve been reading this comic for years and never once realized that Nachitos weren’t a real snack food brand! My world, she is ROCKED!

  24. thakoru
    thakoru
    October 1, 2023 at 12:34 am | #

    The problem is that once you designate anywhere as Garbage Roof, Garbage Roof is no longer partitioned off, and self-destructive thinking is allowed anywhere. As opposed to how it usually is.

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      October 1, 2023 at 12:41 am | #

      Yeah, the main problem here tho is that Dorothy has equivocated healthy R&R with laziness and self-destruction. A flawed heuristic that she must address if she is to avoid a meltdown 😰

  25. Dday
    Dday
    October 1, 2023 at 12:38 am | #

    It’s a room about nothing

    • elebenty
      elebenty
      October 1, 2023 at 7:07 am | #

      Seinfeld would be proud!

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        October 1, 2023 at 8:51 am | #

        [Slap bass intensifies]

  26. M.Blind
    M.Blind
    October 1, 2023 at 12:51 am | #

    Dust in the wind. all we are is nachito dust in the wind.

  27. BBCC
    BBCC
    October 1, 2023 at 12:53 am | #

    It’s an important distinction!

  28. Archieve
    Archieve
    October 1, 2023 at 1:07 am | #

    Dorothy think for a moment, do you really think your goal of mindless fun will be achieved by making Walky leave over no Nachitos? Do you really think it will be nonawkward to ask Amber to hangout after getting on Walkys case for chilling with her?

  29. Pocky
    Pocky
    October 1, 2023 at 1:32 am | #

    welp

    they had a good run

  30. C.T. Phipps
    C.T. Phipps
    October 1, 2023 at 1:56 am | #

    I feel Dorothy envies their ability to be garbage while she’s always wanted to be amazing.

    • Angel
      Angel
      October 1, 2023 at 2:21 am | #

      idk what dorothy considers garbage behavior i assume she wouldn’t go to the extreme with drugs even if she did get drunk with ruth, but she rly does need a hobbyt/time away from everyone

      • Daibhid C
        Daibhid C
        October 1, 2023 at 8:49 am | #

        Garbage roof isn’t about behaviour (nobody’s done drugs on garbage roof that I recall), it’s about believing you’re a terrible person, and not feeling any compulsion to not feel that way.

        • cbwroses
          cbwroses
          October 1, 2023 at 11:50 am | #

          That one girl smokes weed on Garabge Roof, but she’s barely in the comic.

    • Mark
      Mark
      October 1, 2023 at 9:24 am | #

      I find this sad because Dorothy is amazing, just not amazing enough to suit her.

      • C.T. Phipps
        C.T. Phipps
        October 1, 2023 at 3:33 pm | #

        Dorothy has always wanted to be President because it’s an apex to achieve.

        But she’s gradually realizing:

        * Presidents are probably required to kill people (even if not war crimes) and she is horrified by violence.
        * Her personal skills at getting people to like her are severely underdeveloped.
        * It probably wouldn’t make her satisfied on any real level.

        • C.T. Phipps
          C.T. Phipps
          October 1, 2023 at 3:33 pm | #

          I think Robin also demonstrated politics is a LOT slimier than she ever imagined.

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        October 1, 2023 at 7:36 pm | #

        Dorothy is ordinary, and that’s ok.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      October 1, 2023 at 9:30 am | #

      Some part of her still wants to be President, and on some level she realizes that garbage behavior is presidential.

      … yeah okay that’s probably not it.

  31. clif
    clif
    October 1, 2023 at 1:57 am | #

    I was wondering why there was a Dina tag, but then I saw that the last panel showed Dina’s uncovered hair, the source of her sexual charisma.

  32. Agemegos
    Agemegos
    October 1, 2023 at 2:36 am | #

    In the title of Shakespeare’s play Much Ado About Nothing, and in a lot of places in its text, too, “nothing” is the subject of elaborate puns.

  33. Derek
    Derek
    October 1, 2023 at 4:55 am | #

    does anyone have the link to when Dorothy learned about Garbage Roof?

    • JepMZ
      JepMZ
      October 1, 2023 at 6:06 am | #

      It’s last page before time skip

      • Derek
        Derek
        October 1, 2023 at 7:45 pm | #

        I was hoping for a link

  34. Da Boy
    Da Boy
    October 1, 2023 at 5:55 am | #

    Ah so it’s like Camping in Darkest Dungeon.

  35. Suet
    Suet
    October 1, 2023 at 6:38 am | #

    Another branding ploy of his, a likely story.

    Plus Garbage Roof was mostly Amber’s thing, after all.

    • cbwroses
      cbwroses
      October 1, 2023 at 11:49 am | #

      No it wasn’t.
      Walky coined that phrase and he started going up there because he realized his situation with Sal as well as trying not to deal with failing math.
      Amazi-girl went up there because she often met Sal there, but Amber didn’t start going up there regularly as herself until after Walky spent his first day fully broken up with Dorothy interacting with Amber on the app formerly known as Twitter.
      In other words, Walky went up on the roof to be garbage, but Amber went up on the roof to be garbage with Walky (admittedly she wasn’t fully two personalities when she was up there as AG, but the reason and frequency of AG being up there was less about being garbage).

      • cbwroses
        cbwroses
        October 1, 2023 at 12:36 pm | #

        Actually, let me walk that back from.
        It’s Walky’s concept, being the one to say “Up here we can be garbage”, but it was indeed Amber who used the name “Garbage Roof” first in the following discussion.

  36. elebenty
    elebenty
    October 1, 2023 at 7:05 am | #

    Seinfeld would be proud!

  37. elebenty
    elebenty
    October 1, 2023 at 7:08 am | #

    …is what I had to repost under the comment I meant to reply to.

  38. Pylgrim
    Pylgrim
    October 1, 2023 at 7:19 am | #

    All I’m hearing is “how come you make two garbage roofs with Amber and not a single one with me?”

  39. anonymsly
    anonymsly
    October 1, 2023 at 7:52 am | #

    I find it interesting that Dorothy seems to equate ‘spending a morning playing video games and eating snacks, pointedly doing nothing’ with ‘self-destructive’. At the very least, she didn’t argue Walky’s description.

    • Da Boy
      Da Boy
      October 1, 2023 at 8:41 am | #

      She is obsessed with being Productive, not doing things that yield progress and results is very much self-destructive to her.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        October 1, 2023 at 8:49 am | #

        Well yeah. Being “productive” is how she avoids self-reflection.

        • Da Boy
          Da Boy
          October 1, 2023 at 9:44 am | #

          I mean even before this whole mess in College she was obsessed with this Live to Work mentality. She dumped Danny and Walky too (I think? I don’t remember how they broke up) because she was laser focused on her work.

          • Luna
            Luna
            October 1, 2023 at 10:34 am | #

            Dorothy broke up with Walky because her grades were slipping, true, but she broke up with Danny because he was making her his entire identity while also undermining her ambitions. Danny just misremembered/framed it as ‘she broke up with me to focus on school’ after the fact.

            • Da Boy
              Da Boy
              October 1, 2023 at 10:38 am | #

              True but it could be also read as her cutting off the bonds she has no use for/are holding her back. It’s actually pretty funny that she is taking an issue with Walky’s desire to just chill since that was the whole reason why she hooked up with him. Easy fun.

              • cbwroses
                cbwroses
                October 1, 2023 at 11:43 am | #

                Her issue isn’t that Walky is chilling.
                It’s that he’s chilling with Amber in her underwear (after just rejecting Dorothy under the premise of him being a good boyfriend to Lucy).
                There’s also some bleed over anxiety from the fact that she came to Amber because she couldn’t go to Walky and here he is.
                And she may or may not be thinking about how Amber isn’t big on socializing and so Walky may have drained that particular resource for the moment.

                • StClair
                  StClair
                  October 1, 2023 at 2:42 pm | #

                  it’s just a cascading series of Dorothy being unable to get what she wants and/or needs (many of which she’s not consciously aware of and/or doesn’t acknowledge).

    • Daibhid C
      Daibhid C
      October 1, 2023 at 8:46 am | #

      I find it far more interesting that Walky does, tbh.

  40. Alan in DC
    Alan in DC
    October 1, 2023 at 8:11 am | #

    Anyone who wakes up on a weekend and says, “Organizational redundancy”deserves to be blasted with a 2” fire hose.

    Or at least with one of Carla’s pies.

    • Mark
      Mark
      October 1, 2023 at 9:27 am | #

      Please don’t criticize my way of enjoying life.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      October 1, 2023 at 9:28 am | #

      That sounds so important that we should dedicate at least three separate and independent task forces to the job.

      …. mostly because the recursion would be awesome.

      • milu
        milu
        October 1, 2023 at 9:37 am | #

        Let’s get the redundency department of redundency on the case.

        • Quirdry Tawks
          Quirdry Tawks
          October 1, 2023 at 10:09 pm | #

          Or the Department of Redundancy Department? I think there’s both.

  41. The Jighole Man
    The Jighole Man
    October 1, 2023 at 9:34 am | #

    “don’t compromise it with your something.”
    The return of the “Something”
    https://www.dumbingofage.com/2023/comic/book-14/01-everybodys-looking-for-nothing/bag/

    im guessing the something/nothing he is talking about is that he just wants to be with someone without it being a production of some sort. no drama, nothing to do or concern yourself with, just…nothing.

    let us exist together, and enjoy the quiet minutes we can scavenge from an tiresome day.

    • StClair
      StClair
      October 1, 2023 at 2:49 pm | #

      He’s been under significant pressure this last couple of weeks, from both parents and girlfriend, to do/be “something” and is pushing back in his own way.
      (“Nah,I just wanna be a total slack-ass.”)

  42. Luna
    Luna
    October 1, 2023 at 10:35 am | #

    …Suddenly vibing with Dorothy/Walky/Amber as an OT3

    • Mturtle7
      Mturtle7
      October 1, 2023 at 2:50 pm | #

      This sounds like exactly the kind of thing Yotomoe would be into drawing, but I think he might be busy drawing a million Joyce/Joe/Sarah cartoons these days. We’ll see!

  43. Quirdry Tawks
    Quirdry Tawks
    October 1, 2023 at 1:44 pm | #

    No no no, you’re all missing the point.

    Dorothy’s not the one defining, delineating, designating or otherwise Dorothying it up.

    THAT’S her problem.

    • Quirdry Tawks
      Quirdry Tawks
      October 1, 2023 at 1:45 pm | #

      Even after kissing all her dreams goodbye, she can’t stop trying to be The Goddamn President.

      • Mewzard
        Mewzard
        October 1, 2023 at 2:20 pm | #

        Now I’m just imagining the most terrifying All-Star Batman and Robin sequel…

  44. HueSatLight
    HueSatLight
    October 1, 2023 at 1:54 pm | #

    Probably no meaning behind “Garbage roof than just being pals.

  45. Mr. Random
    Mr. Random
    October 1, 2023 at 11:59 pm | #

    Awww All gone.

  46. AbacusWizard
    AbacusWizard
    October 2, 2023 at 1:28 am | #

    It’s like Garbage Roof for people who are too lazy to go all the way up to the roof.

  47. Willoughby Chase
    Willoughby Chase
    October 3, 2023 at 10:23 am | #

    it’s been real

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