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Stretches

by David M Willis on November 24, 2023 at 12:01 am
  • 02 – It's The Love I Haven't Got
└ Tags: joe, joyce

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    November 24, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    Now imagine doing this as a model in a life drawing class (with or without clothes on)… for TWO MINUTES

    /has in fact done that (with clothes on)

    • PASchaefer
      PASchaefer
      November 24, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

      Oof.

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      November 24, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

      I would never be able to model for a class; my body spasms frequently due to medical stuff, so I would never be able to sit perfectly still. Also I’m not exactly in shape so I wouldn’t be comfortable to model anyway.

      • Marisa Mockery
        Marisa Mockery
        November 24, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

        Oh I loved drawing curvy people, and I preferred older models. Our live model classes had nude people and drawing an 18 year old just felt so awkward. You is bby why you here

        • Nymphie
          Nymphie
          November 24, 2023 at 3:12 am | #

          My art school had students sign up to model for the evening life drawing sessions, and the rate was about double the minimum wage. So it was not uncommon to see some of our peers naked on a regular basis

      • Jo_Cubstar
        Jo_Cubstar
        November 24, 2023 at 12:30 am | #

        I modeled for a life drawing class, nude, once. I have fibromyalgia and I lose circulation so my limbs go numbs incredibly easily. It was not a pleasant experience. It was grueling

    • Viktoria
      Viktoria
      November 24, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

      I played a scarecrow in a play. First rehearsal we immediately figured out that having me hold my arms straight out for 7 minutes was not going to happen. There was a yardstick in the back of my shirt the next day.

      • John Campbell
        John Campbell
        November 24, 2023 at 12:34 am | #

        Nothing like a little crucifixion for the sake of art.

      • Bash
        Bash
        November 24, 2023 at 5:49 am | #

        I’ve done maybe 3 minutes as part of a workout video, and it was HARD. Thinking that you could do 7 minutes without any training is insane.

        • Viktoria
          Viktoria
          November 24, 2023 at 12:11 pm | #

          I was young, and in shape, and made it about a minute before it was clear that this was not tenable. As said, it was fixed before next rehearsal. We’d wanted a fast, easy transition from “on the pole” to “free movement”, and no one had actually tried doing it before me.

          And then everyone thought I was just weak, tried it themselves, and gave up just as fast. It was hilarious watching our resident football player start gasping at it.

      • Schpoonman
        Schpoonman
        November 24, 2023 at 7:58 am | #

        “But Scarecrow moves around, he’s part of the whole journey to–they did not specify Oz.”

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      November 24, 2023 at 5:18 am | #

      I did nude modelling for photography because I only had to hide my junk from a particular observation point, and I only had to hold the poses for at most 30 seconds. With my injuries prolonged standing poses were right out.

  2. UrsulaDavina
    UrsulaDavina
    November 24, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    Been there Joyce.

  3. Thag Simmons
    Thag Simmons
    November 24, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    I sympathize, I am pathetically weak.

    • Clif
      Clif
      November 24, 2023 at 12:45 am | #

      I sympathize, I have can have an incredably short attention span.

  4. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    November 24, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    Turns out exercise is just repetitive and tiring physical activity. Who knew?

    • asmodai27
      asmodai27
      November 24, 2023 at 9:24 am | #

      It does not HAVE to be repetitive, though it often is indeed.

  5. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    November 24, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    Joyce is going to be in trouble if her metabolism ever slows down. A 2 liter lemon-lime soda every day? That alone is enough to cause you to gain weight.

    • UrsulaDavina
      UrsulaDavina
      November 24, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

      I suppose she could switch to diet but there is a bunch of other health issues involved with that choice. But I don’t have the stamina nor attention span to talk about it.

      • Kyrik Michalowski
        Kyrik Michalowski
        November 24, 2023 at 12:47 am | #

        Fair enough, and yeah I did that soda for a few years and it was a poor choice. I went back to regular soda, but I now mostly drink water and only drink soda with my medication or if I am at a restaurant/fast food joint.

        • Bicycle Bill
          Bicycle Bill
          November 24, 2023 at 1:04 am | #

          Much as I hate to make a plug for the place, but Mall-Wart has their own label of flavored fizzy water called ‘Clear American’. No calories, no sugars, no sodium, and the flavors are (in my opinion) much stronger than Buble or La Croix or any of the other name-brand ones.  Comes in either 12-packs of 12-oz cans or 1-liter bottles, and if you go the bottle route there are far more flavors to choose from than the cans … but then you’re creating a problem due to the single-use plastic bottles which, no matter how diligent you are about putting them in recycle bins or containers, may still end up being burned in a refuse-to-energy program or landfilled anyway.

          • ValdVin
            ValdVin
            November 24, 2023 at 6:27 am | #

            Michael Buble is hawking his own brand of seltzer?

            Sellout. It used to be about the music, man!

            • Tan
              Tan
              November 24, 2023 at 6:56 pm | #

              While Michael Buble is an advertising spokesman for it, Bubly Sparkling Water is a PepsiCo brand, not his own.

              • ValdVin
                ValdVin
                November 27, 2023 at 2:11 pm | #

                Okay, this is why I like this space.

                I was going for the cheaplaff and had no idea Michael Buble was advertising Bubly!

          • Mark
            Mark
            November 24, 2023 at 9:15 am | #

            I think all the stores have captive brands of flavored fizzy water.

            Or, y’know, 2l of tap water and a tot of lemon juice might work too, Joyce.

      • Felgraf
        Felgraf
        November 24, 2023 at 6:35 am | #

        In Finland, we have these fizzy little tabs you can add to water that add carbonation and some flavor, and often vitamins too. I don’t believe they have any sugar, though.

        • Mark
          Mark
          November 24, 2023 at 9:16 am | #

          We had those in US back in the 60s-70s. They were terrible then and would likely be unimaginably awful now. I hope yours are better.

        • v.gay.person
          v.gay.person
          November 25, 2023 at 2:10 am | #

          We have the them in Australia and it’s the best way to get myself to drink water and the only way for me take my vitamins. They’re also a great alternative to sports drinks.

    • Fay
      Fay
      November 24, 2023 at 4:36 am | #

      I mean, the diabetes will probably hit her before the weight does.

      • S.R.
        S.R.
        November 24, 2023 at 8:40 am | #

        It’s actually a myth that sugar causes diabetes. Diabetes is something you already have, or something that develops independent of diet. A diet high in sugar can cause you to /notice/ it sooner, but you can’t cause it no matter how much sugar you consume.

        • Decidedly Orthogonal
          Decidedly Orthogonal
          November 24, 2023 at 1:38 pm | #

          Do you have a source for that that isn’t funded by the sugar industry?

  6. shadowcell
    shadowcell
    November 24, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    Joyce Has Neither the Stamina Nor the Attention Span For This: A Dumbing of Age Pornographique

    • Dana
      Dana
      November 24, 2023 at 12:37 am | #

      Lets hope they at least get the gym to themselves.

  7. NGPZ
    NGPZ
    November 24, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    “Congratulations Sailor, you made it to Black Friday!”

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      November 24, 2023 at 9:18 am | #

      The funny of all is that Mr. Crabby is the perfect character for a Black Friday

  8. shrub
    shrub
    November 24, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    Someone’s been skipping leg days…

    • drs
      drs
      November 24, 2023 at 12:26 am | #

      Oof yeah, his biceps look bigger than his thighs

    • Angel
      Angel
      November 24, 2023 at 2:34 am | #

      joyce did mention bike riding before, maybe they could go on a two person bicycle lol

      • Bicycle Bill
        Bicycle Bill
        November 25, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

        I’ll loan ’em mine.

  9. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    November 24, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    I concur. Working out sucks. That’s why I just go for walks. Much easier.

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      November 24, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

      I need to find a way to watch a show or youtuber while I walk on the treadmill. Then at least I won’t be bored.

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        November 24, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

        Hard to give specific suggestions without knowing your workout space, but it’s not that difficult to set-up a laptop or tablet in front of the treadmill.

      • Jamie
        Jamie
        November 24, 2023 at 12:34 am | #

        The visual component is difficult, since holding your head steady is just … less-than-great walking form. But audially, I’d suggest getting wireless headphones of some kind. I have a Shokz OpenRun for listening to stuff while I walk and it’s the favoritest thing I bought this year. Designed to handle “oh no I’m sweating” levels, but not to handle “oh no I’m swimming” levels of moisture.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        November 24, 2023 at 3:21 am | #

        If it’s facing a wall, you can wall-mount a TV. Some treadmills have a little shelf or ledge on the control panel that can hold a tablet, too.

        • Roborat
          Roborat
          November 24, 2023 at 3:18 pm | #

          That is what I did, put a shelf on the wall in front of the treadmill and placed a 41 inch tv and Wi-Fi equipped DVD player, and use that to watch Netflix. I just walk on the treadmill, I don’t think it would work with running, too much head bounce. I tried to watch videos on a tablet while treadmilling, but it wasn’t too successful, works well with an exercise bike however.

      • Schpoonman
        Schpoonman
        November 24, 2023 at 7:56 am | #

        My oldest brother used to dribble a soccerball when he went on runs. Dude’s a freak.

        • Rose by Any Other Name
          Rose by Any Other Name
          November 24, 2023 at 7:49 pm | #

          … why a soccer ball specifically?

          • HueSatLight
            HueSatLight
            November 24, 2023 at 8:10 pm | #

            I would guess he was soccer dribbling.

      • v.gay.person
        v.gay.person
        November 25, 2023 at 2:11 am | #

        When I went to the gym the treadmills had screens in them and a usb port, so I’d just load up a whole movie to walk/jog to.

    • Angel
      Angel
      November 24, 2023 at 2:25 am | #

      being active in small ways is fine but i’d def rather ‘workout’ than go to a church lol

    • Mark
      Mark
      November 24, 2023 at 9:19 am | #

      Hear, hear! Or yard-work. Wearing out machines is boring.

  10. Ty34er
    Ty34er
    November 24, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    Worth mentioning that warming up should be active stretching and not this style of stretching. Granted, any stretchong is better than nothing, but still

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      November 24, 2023 at 12:21 am | #

      This person fitnesses.

    • butting
      butting
      November 24, 2023 at 2:08 am | #

      The last “active stretching” I tried was jogging across the field to where the five-a-side football was being held. Halfway across: eeeeeYEEOOWWW as I pulled my right hamstring, followed right away by a GYYAARRRRHHHH when I came down on the other leg and pulled my left groin.

      My physio LOVED that story, and had me tell it at least three times while she tried not to giggle. Sort of tried not to giggle. Well, sort of tried not to giggle too much.

      I’m with Yoto, working out sucks.

      (… nah, that last bit’s a lie. walking’s out for me ‘cos my big toe joints are failing, but living handy to a shared walking/biking riverside track through replanted native bush was awesome. jump on the bike, peel out 7km to the edge of the city, then turn back and collapse on the lawn at home when done. and, jump into the river on a hot day and do the rest of the ride soaking wet with deliciously chill river water, couldn’t be beat.)

    • Angel
      Angel
      November 24, 2023 at 2:32 am | #

      i’m assuming joe is starting her off with the basics

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      November 24, 2023 at 3:22 am | #

      Maybe this is the pre-warmup warmup.

    • LiamKav
      LiamKav
      November 24, 2023 at 3:51 am | #

      I was gonna say the same thing, re active vs passive stretching then wondered if maybe Joe knew more thane,.then realised that Joe isn’t real, then had a.small existential crisis.

      • elebenty
        elebenty
        November 25, 2023 at 8:11 am | #

        Darn know-it-all figments of Willis.

    • Roborat
      Roborat
      November 24, 2023 at 3:19 pm | #

      More people get injured stretching than exercising.

  11. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    November 24, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    *cues up “Defying Gravity” on the hacked Muzak*

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      November 24, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

      YES <3 ^_^

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEq3xM-i0Ng

  12. HueSatLight
    HueSatLight
    November 24, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    anyone else stretch like them for 10 seconds after reading? did you forget to breath too?

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      November 24, 2023 at 5:30 am | #

      I did! I’m tiny-skinny-armed, and pregnant, but it wasn’t difficult at all. I did remember to breathe.

      At about 30sec my arms start to fall asleep a lil, but I’m not sure why Joyce’s muscles are shaking with effort at 5sec. Maybe she’s tensing up super hard (which isn’t how to stretch), and/or maybe this is just another way that pregnancy is weird?

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        November 24, 2023 at 3:49 pm | #

        She’s excited, a little nervous, and just picked up 150-ish pounds of Sarah a few moments ago.

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      November 24, 2023 at 9:16 am | #

      Damn it, Autonoetic consciousness…

  13. Suet
    Suet
    November 24, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    |o| It’s only ten Mississippis, just the right amount of time to nab all the sides you wanna eat.

    The struggle of noodle arms, post-Sarah bodylock, is real

    • elebenty
      elebenty
      November 25, 2023 at 8:13 am | #

      My kid used to count seconds between lightning and thunderclaps as “one Ms. Piggy, two Ms. Piggy….”

      • elebenty
        elebenty
        November 25, 2023 at 8:14 am | #

        She also asked “Why do squirrels only stick to trees?”

  14. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    November 24, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

    I need to do my stretches more often before work, given I have a fairly physical job. It’s easy to neglect sometimes, but it will bite you eventually.

  15. Decidedly Orthogonal
    Decidedly Orthogonal
    November 24, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

    Palm’s are sweaty?
    Mom’s spaghetti,
    Vomit on Joyce’ sweater vest already

  16. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    November 24, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

    People of the comment section, lend Joyce your stamina!

    • Clif
      Clif
      November 24, 2023 at 12:48 am | #

      Can’t hear you. I already lent this fellow my ears.

      • DaveM
        DaveM
        November 24, 2023 at 11:11 pm | #

        I so need to upvote this!

  17. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    November 24, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

    If Joyce can’t handle stretching upwards, she DEFINITELY isn’t going to do a pelvic curl, or a spine twist supine, or a one leg circle. She’s going to wash her hands of this whole exercise thing.

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      November 24, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

      Until she learns that these can help her ride Joe’s bus as the wheels go round and round.

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        November 24, 2023 at 1:54 am | #

        …. okay, now I can’t tell whether that’s just a euphemism, or if I should be looking for a stealth pun in response to my own.

        • David DeLaney
          David DeLaney
          November 24, 2023 at 4:23 am | #

          … more of a visual thing, really

          –Dave, if Joe’s bus’ wheels are going round and round something has gone wrong. I’d say the wheels have come off but as a fellow guy YIKES

          ps: for a guy those/them are always one layer of the subtext

          • Leorale
            Leorale
            November 24, 2023 at 5:33 am | #

            I’m not quite sure how to read it when you especially sign each of your comments.
            –Leorale, did I do it right

            • David DeLaney
              David DeLaney
              November 24, 2023 at 8:55 pm | #

              it used to be an internym, three decades ago

              –Dave, but over the years, the “DeLaney” sort of withered away. once it escaped from the culture which formed it on a.f.u., and now it’s entirely a postnym

          • Reltzik
            Reltzik
            November 24, 2023 at 12:44 pm | #

            pps: Except when they’re just plain text.

  18. Nono
    Nono
    November 24, 2023 at 12:25 am | #

    For a second I thought Joyce discovered she had an armpit fetish.

  19. Jamie
    Jamie
    November 24, 2023 at 12:40 am | #

    For my lack-of-attention-span, I make it a point to count out loud if I can. Better yet if I do it in a non-primary language. It’s something mildly interesting to hyperfocus on, plus I’m keeping myself from going 100% rusty on that language. (I can never remember all the numbers for French. It’s also fun to switch between Cantonese and Mandarin.)

  20. Bicycle Bill
    Bicycle Bill
    November 24, 2023 at 12:51 am | #

    Side-by-side like this shows either how tall Joe is, or just how short – sorry, how ‘fun-sized’ Joyce is.

    Has it ever been canonically specified just how tall our characters are, or times where they have been drawn close enough to something of known height so that we can make an accurate assessment?

    • John Campbell
      John Campbell
      November 24, 2023 at 1:08 am | #

      Heights have been given for various characters over the years, but I don’t think the art style is really technically accurate about the relative sizes. IIRC, Sal and Walky are 5’7″. Joyce is a little bit shorter, I think, maybe 5’6″ or so. Amber’s like 5’3″ maybe with her Amazi-Girl boots on. Joe is big. Galasso is frickin’ ginormous.

    • miz
      miz
      November 24, 2023 at 1:12 am | #

      Joyce is 5’4″, perfectly average. Walky is 5’7″. the other characters’ heights are basically consistent but more “relative to each other” than solidified numbers.

      • Leorale
        Leorale
        November 24, 2023 at 3:11 am | #

        As we can see here, Joe is built like a silverback gorilla.

  21. Clif
    Clif
    November 24, 2023 at 12:51 am | #

    The secret is to do this while standing on your tip toes. The strain on your toes will cancel out any discomfort elesewhere.

    • StClair
      StClair
      November 24, 2023 at 12:59 am | #

      Found the ballet dancer.

      • Clif
        Clif
        November 24, 2023 at 10:48 pm | #

        Not guilty, yer honor.

  22. BBCC
    BBCC
    November 24, 2023 at 12:58 am | #

    It’s a marathon, not a sprint!

    Which is good ’cause you can’t pull off either.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      November 24, 2023 at 3:24 am | #

      Depends on the length of the sprint.

    • asmodai27
      asmodai27
      November 24, 2023 at 9:40 am | #

      I’d argue that if you can’t pull it off, a sprint is better, as it is over sooner…

  23. Bryy
    Bryy
    November 24, 2023 at 1:17 am | #

    Ah, my mortal enemy.

    The Pre-Stretch.

  24. Puppeteer Nessus
    Puppeteer Nessus
    November 24, 2023 at 1:25 am | #

    Aaagh Joyce is cute around joe

  25. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    November 24, 2023 at 1:32 am | #

    maybe you need aclock to stare at~

  26. Bash
    Bash
    November 24, 2023 at 2:00 am | #

    This whole plan has been the epitome of “someone did not think this through”.

    • David DeLaney
      David DeLaney
      November 24, 2023 at 4:25 am | #

      book title!

      –Dave, and/or alternative strip title!

  27. Angel
    Angel
    November 24, 2023 at 2:04 am | #

    at least you have some muscles to stare at, joyce ;P or i guess they could play some music lol

  28. shrub
    shrub
    November 24, 2023 at 2:49 am | #

    Question for those who lift: stretch or no stretch before lifting?

    I personally don’t stretch but I do 5 warm up sets before my working sets so I feel good to go

    • LiamKav
      LiamKav
      November 24, 2023 at 5:08 am | #

      I tend to do light strength exercises, but from what I understand active stretching is what’s important BEFORE exercise, so doing light weights probably at least partially counts.

      • shrub
        shrub
        November 24, 2023 at 11:22 am | #

        Yeah it’s funny because it was always drummed into me that you must stretch, that if you do basically anything physical without stretching you’ll damage yourself, that you must warm up in a specific way etc etc

        Well I train in my garage so the metal garage door makes the garage very warm so I don’t feel the need to do any cardio to warm up as I’m already warm and if 20 light reps of the specific exercise isn’t enough to prep you for the work set…

        Or it could be that I’m quite lazy and I don’t want to bugger about with doing cardio 😀

    • Bash
      Bash
      November 24, 2023 at 5:45 am | #

      I do a few minutes of running or elliptical before weights, and stretching after. Warmup sets or light exercises would be good too.

  29. thumb
    thumb
    November 24, 2023 at 3:58 am | #

    Oh my god, there’s a lot of Joe.
    You don’t realise until you see the full wingspan, but oh god there’s a lot of him.

    • Schpoonman
      Schpoonman
      November 24, 2023 at 7:52 am | #

      Yeah there is.

  30. David DeLaney
    David DeLaney
    November 24, 2023 at 4:26 am | #

    DAMN Joe you have Monkey Master/i> arms

    –Dave, … i’ll be in mah hammock

  31. David DeLaney
    David DeLaney
    November 24, 2023 at 4:26 am | #

    i wonder if there’s any way for Willis to correct that malformed tag

  32. Amós Batista
    Amós Batista
    November 24, 2023 at 5:00 am | #

    Joyce, stamina? You were able to take down Toedad, I’m sure you can hold arms for 10 seconds…

    • S.R.
      S.R.
      November 24, 2023 at 8:41 am | #

      Adrenaline.

  33. Felian
    Felian
    November 24, 2023 at 6:24 am | #

    The struggle of ADHD and sports. Some excercises are just too boring to keep doing…

    • Sillygoose
      Sillygoose
      November 24, 2023 at 11:47 am | #

      Pro tip, it feels shorter if you’re the one doing the counting, as compared to waiting for someone to say stop.

      • Felian
        Felian
        November 24, 2023 at 4:32 pm | #

        Yes, especially because i can count to 30 way faster than any sports instructor i’ve ever had! 😀

  34. Schpoonman
    Schpoonman
    November 24, 2023 at 7:51 am | #

    Used to do arm raises not unlike this for marching band practice, though ours were straight to the side then raised 10 degrees. Adding forwards and backwards rotations after holding that pose for a minute was the worst.

  35. Sillygoose
    Sillygoose
    November 24, 2023 at 11:45 am | #

    Now everyone, just admit you tried to see if you could best her and do a full ten seconds.
    Feels good to feel more athletic than someone, anyone, even a cartoon character.

  36. Mym
    Mym
    November 24, 2023 at 4:36 pm | #

    These are part of my art stretches lol

  37. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    November 24, 2023 at 5:02 pm | #

    Weird. I can understand that Joe wants to be safe Joyce will not hurt herself, but pre workout stretching is pretty much useless if you’re not doing some sports. I can’t remember to see a bodybuilders doing it.

  38. Meerkat
    Meerkat
    November 24, 2023 at 7:20 pm | #

    My trainer butt is just being like “no static stretches aren’t good for pre-workout and should only be for post workout stretches or during the normal day

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