She has, though very little since Book 1. They literally had a face-to-face conversation in Book 1 after AG carried Billie away from a fight with Ruth. Billie must be “colorblind” or something.
The first was https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/nerds/ when Amazi-Girl carried her; there was no indication that she’d been drinking, other than that it was book 1 and, back then, Billifer was basically always drinking when the opportunity presented itself. So… probably at least somewhat drunk.
The second was in a party where she was distracted looking after Joyce (and had not only been drinking but had gotten pre-drunk before arriving). Not linking that directly to avoid my post going into automoderation.
Shoutout to the commenter yesterday or the day before who said that Jennifer would use Sal getting arrested as confirmation of her being Amazi-Girl, you almost had it
Maybe Ion is like an archetypal Willis character that tried to escape his fundamentalist background by becoming a scientist but ran out of money and fell back into the life of a police officer instead but secretly yearns to come out as a gay anarchist rebel.
Or maybe he’s just being lazy and knows the warrant (if it exists) only covered places the costume exists.
As Ruth pointed out, they don’t have a warrant. They’re already on the knife edge of being sued for this illegal search & seizure. If they break shit, they’re fucked
If so, they should be in serious legal trouble. Sure, cops do this kind of thing and get away with it, but that’s because they do it to people who can’t afford good lawyers.
That’s not the case on this floor. Most obviously Carla’s parents can put an entire team on it with their pocket change, but even the Walkerton’s have decent money.
Yeah, in this case the school is functioning like a landlord, and most places your landlord can’t let the cops into your rental without a warrant or your consent.
TBH, Ruth should have some legal standing to ask, I think, since she’s the RA and has the authority to kick people out, it would be reasonable for her to demand that she be shown a warrant or evidence that they have obtained permission from the school, since they are not being escorted by a resident, as required by the residence hall rules.
“As a reminder, residents are responsible for their guest’s behavior and should accompany them whenever they are inside the residential facility.” [Emphasis mine]
That would be a particularly weird legal twist: They technically need a warrant, but don’t have to show it to anyone who’s actually likely to be present.
They do apparently have room keys (or some kind of master key more likely), which suggests that they do have some kind of permission.
In IU’s specific case, IU appears to have its own campus police force and they would therefore be naturally allowed to be in the common areas for the same reason, say, Ruth’s boss can also show up.
I was going to say he wouldn’t be the first tagged character to make one appearance and disappear forever, but he’s tagged in two strips retroactively.
This reminds of the bit in Star Wars when the stormtroopers are searching Mos Eisley, and one of them knocks lightly on a door and declares ‘no answer, move along’ without even waiting.
You may call that lazy, but i say they care about their jobs just about as much as i care about mine. They’ve been out in the desert heat in those white, hard plastic suits for hours knocking on doors without results. I would also want to hurry up and get it over with so i could get out of that helmet and go get a drink.
Which implies she knew where the costume was, and was tipped off on the police raid early enough that she had enough time to get to Read and retrieve it before the cops arrived.
It’s highly improbable that word got to her via Dorothy’s text chain first, because Dorothy only found out about the raid after other people saw police at the building.
Maybe Asher really is the unknown number who texted Amber?
This is honestly one of the most disturbing things to think about for me. As a kid one of my friend’s dad was a cop. The school I went to had cops who seemed like chill bros and cool dudes. As I’ve gotten older, I cannot help but wonder… what were Officers X and Y and Z like on duty? What terrible things had they seen and done while also putting on a friendly face for a bunch of schoolkids?
I reported you for reporting, and I also reported the comment you reported, just to make it more likely for your mistake to cost someone their life. When a comment is deleted, the person who wrote it dies, and now that blood is on your hands in the real world, Jeff. You murderer.
It depends on what you mean by “terrible things they have seen and done”. If you mean police misconduct, that is a highly tailed distribution, with a small fraction of police officers accounting for the supermajority of problems. It’s a systemic issue that the bad cops aren’t punished, but odds are that any nice cops you know probably are genuinely nice. If you mean dealing with the ugly side of humanity, then yeah, outside like sleepy rural towns most cops have done some sort of violence at one point or another, because doing state-sanctioned violence is a core part of the job. I remember a Portland police officer telling me that every so often his department gets a new recruit who comes in with an idealistic notion that they will serve and protect with kindness and understanding, that they will never have to use violence if they deescalate. He said they usually burn out, because in reality some people will not comply no matter what you say or do, and then you have to use force. As he put it, you can’t be police if you are unwilling to hit somebody.
The point of laws and law enforcement is to coordinate force against people who will not comply with the rules of society. Law enforcement doesn’t need to be done by specific officers, some societies had it as a duty of all free men, but I don’t know of any way to do it without violence.
If there are 10 people at a table happily sharing lunch and one of them is an out and proud Nazi, then there are 10 Nazis sitting at that table. Although it may be true that 9 of them are actually quite nice in private.
I disagree strongly with this thesis. Firstly, I don’t believe in guilt by association. Secondly, I don’t believe in giving the enemy free recruits by shunning people who can still be saved. Thirdly, Daryl Davis is my hero, and he has sat down with hundreds of members of the Ku Klux Klan, and by doing so gotten over two hundred of them to quit. I once stopped a man from going down the rabbit hole into Holocaust denial, and I’m glad I met him where he was at instead of calling him a Nazi and bailing.
That’s cool and all, but back in the 1940s, a bunch of folks got together and figured out a way to stop literally millions of Nazis from being Nazis in just a few years. It was 100% effective every time.
And if the Nazis start another war I’ll be happy to take up arms and deliver upon them another loss. Until there is a war on though, I will break bread with anybody willing to break bread with me.
I read the “happily sharing lunch” part as indicating that “attempting to convince the out and proud Nazi to maybe try not subscribing to a hate-filled ideology” wasn’t part of the proceedings.
I’m sorry to disappoint, but I really cannot see any way past the violence inherent in the system. The best I got is acknowledging the necessity of force, insisting that it that it be restricted to the necessary minimum, and demanding severe punishment on officers who exceed their mandate and abuse their power.
In elementary school, one of my best friends was like the sweetest kid ever, and both her parents were cops. My friend had her eyesight significantly damaged, almost going blind, because of medical malpractice, and my mom had to convince her parents to sue the doctor (who had flat out admitted to the parents he hadn’t done some monitoring he was suppose to). And yet… they were cops, going from the suburb we lived in to the bigger city with highly reported cases of police corruption for work.
If we’re being “realistic”, the cops possibly wouldn’t know an iguana is against the school rules and certainly wouldn’t care enough to do anything about it. They’re here on their own this time, the school didn’t call them. And if we’re being “realistic” I also have doubts that them finding the superhero costume would even be admissible evidence in court for both “cape don’t fit you must aacquit” reasons and 4th amendment concerns.
But we’re not being realistic, we’re being a gag-a-day cartoon strip that deals with political themes and while finding the right balance on the silly-to-serious dial is something DoA sometimes struggles with, I think it’s entirely appropriate for the iguana issue to be solved in a silly way because it was barely an issue in the first place, either “realistically” or in the comic trying to get us to care, and Jennifer raiding Sal’s room for the costume makes sense and pays off a running joke over a decade in the making, so that’s fine too.
Yeah, the version of this where they take the cover off is that there’s a moment of acknowledgement that that there is an Iguana and then they keep looking, which is less funny.
Fortunately for all parties involved, Jennifer has shifted the tone back to gag-a-day comedy and the cops respecting Malaya’s obvious bullshit is funnier than the alternatives.
tbf, Sal might not have known that AG was injured fighting cops, only that she didn’t want to draw attention by going to the hospital with very hard-to-explain-away injuries; and if she didn’t know that their were cops involved, she certainly wouldn’t have expected cops to show up and search the dorm.
Were there any strips where Sal was shown to even be aware of the protest and crackdown? She might have been otherwise occupied the whole time.
I’m honestly curious how a student at a Uni, even a large one,
could NOT know there is/was a protest for weeks and that it was
broken up by the police?
I think that’s one of the reasons people keep complaining about Joyce and Dorothy – they think it’s been some long stretch of time for them with “no consequences”. The protest, the police starting to riot, and The Smooch all happened on Saturday afternoon. Current in-comic time is Monday morning. The comic severely decompresses time, due to its strip-a-day nature.
There’s two wings, 4-5 floors per wing, and “dozens” of rooms per wing. Even dividing up the building, they are probably bored at this point and want to go back to playing candy crush or torturing homeless people.
i mean, amazigirl could start a mini army of ppl dressed like her to confuse ppl but surely there’d be pics of amazigirl out there where she’s clearly lighter skin toned than sal
Amazi-Girl’s just that committed to her disguise. If you’re not changing your skin colour, hair length and body type when you switch between your superhero mode and your secret identity, are you even trying?
Indeed. Long running payoffs for the win. I’m aware that neurodiversity prevents some people following the long wait, but me, I love this. All praise to the long haul Willis!
You created a new one! I was wondering if LIN STOPPABLE was a villain in Kim Possible who had a kerning problem and was really just the angular version of UN STOPPABLE.
I’m not sure it’s meant to be Billie that covered the cage, could be but my first thought was that’s just how Malaya leaves it when they’re out. Do iguanas like dark?
Also they’re raiding Read hall specifically and Jennifer lives in a completely different building. I know cops have a lot of unchecked power now but they still have to justify shit to superiors. Sweeping one hall is much easier to get away with than committing lots of time to searching multiple buildings with no warrant. Someone will start wondering what the fuck these guys are doing and why.
The Cops are after Amazi-Girl specifically and she’s known to live in this specific residence building. They probably won’t break into literally every girl’s dorm on campus, because it probably wouldn’t work and people would rightfully get pissed at them for it.
Ugh, I just knew Sal being uncharacteristically bad at hiding Amber’s costume was going to be used to prolong the old “Jennifer still thinks Sals lying about not being Amazi girl” gage.
Keep in mind this also implies Jennifer speedran breaking in to Sal’s place, speedran finding the costume, and then just calmly exited the building through a dozen or so cops. I really haven’t given her enough credit in the past.
This also pretty heavily implies she was tipped off as well, which heavily implies the source was Asher, since he’s the only other one who would have inside knowledge about Sal and Amazi-Girl, but also the cops.
Why would Asher tip off Jennifer? They didn’t exactly part on good terms and she doesn’t have any connection to Amazi-Girl that he knows of. She doesn’t even live in the dorm that’s getting raided.
Partially because he’s implicated, partially because on some underlying level, he clearly cares about Sal. He knew Sal was the one hiding Amazi-Girl’s gear after he hooked them up with a chop doc. If Sal gets caught with that, it’s bad for her, which is bad for him. But, he happens to know a person who builds their whole identity off of doing shit like this, who could conveniently slip in and out, and solve the problem. He probably didn’t even have to offer her anything in return, Jennifer will do shit like this purely for the self-satisfaction.
It’s probably ominous foreshadowing that one of these cops is tagged. This is not the last we’ve seen of lon. It’s also probably ominous foreshadowing that he’s tagged “lon” when I copy and paste into this comment box with a serif front, and not “Lon” or “Ion”. Is that meant to be an I and it’s a typo or is his name “Lon” and he actually doesn’t capitalize it?
And he’s referred to as Lon in the comic I literally just read ten seconds ago AND it’s the bald guy and not the beard guy who’s Lon so I was fucking up on literally every level.
She’s said it herself, she does dumb things the smart way and smart things the dumb way.
She probably had no idea the costume was hidden in Sal’s closet because Sal’s stashing it for Amazi-Ber, she just defaulted to going there because “Sal is Amazi-Girl”.
Yes, there are absolutely no yuks in this strip where Billie saves the day with her completely stupid continuing belief that Sal is Amazi-Girl, and the cops conducting an illegal search of the dorm don’t look in the iguana cage because it says “SCIENCE” on it.
Cop: Yeah, no, I don’t care if it’s science. I gotta make sure there’s no costume in here.
*lifts blanket
*sees Fuckface
Cop: Huh. Yeah, that’s science all right.
Time will tell, but my impression is she’s doing primarily this for clout. She needs to prove that Sal is Amazi-Girl, and she wants leverage against Dorothy.
Doesn’t have to be from my understanding, but it probably depends on the type of warrant issued. They can have someone arrested, who lives alone, and get a warrant to search the rest of the possessions to additional violations or evidence.
YES…. YESSSSSSSSS this is exactly what i was hoping for!!!
Also glad to see fuckface isn’t being found out either. Very glad the cops actually decided not to bother the “experiement”, would not have been at all shocked if that hadn’t been true
I guess I should’ve expected Jennifer to be the one to take the Amazi-Girl costume before the cops found it, since she probably still thinks Sal is Amazi-Girl. I would be disappointed that there’s no drama from this so far, but much as I dislike some characters in this strip, I really didn’t want to see any of them get arrested by the cops.
Y’know part of me is a little disappointed we’re just diffusing the tension like that but the way in which it was done was so spectacular I’m actually pretty happy about it.
I do like that this led to a callback to “Billie thinks Sal is Amazi-Girl because she’s the worst(period)reporter(period)ever(period)”, and part of me would miss that gag going away, but for Billie’s sake I think I’d like to see this storyline resulting in Billie *finally* finding out.
“Yeah we’re conducting a warrantless search in violation of civil rights, but a paper sign suggesting whatever is going on under this large box-shaped object is collegiate level science is far too precious to be investigated further.”
It really does undercut things.
Like it’s fine if the fascist cops are also bumbling idiots who don’t really care about the job in general, but here aren’t they supposed to be motivated by looking for the girl who beat them up?
Seriously? They’re looking for Super Hero costumes on a college campus? Have they met the comics geeks that inhabit your average dorm? If they only find a dozen or so they didn’t search very well.
I assume that they aren’t looking for “super hero costumes” in general, but rather they’ve looked at footage of the incident and know what Amazi-Girl’s suit looks like. After all, they’re searching for someone who’s beaten up a bunch of their colleagues, and cops tend to be surprisingly efficient at that kind of task.
That cop recalls his broken dreams of being a scientist, he has a full Ego style flasback. (They broke was because he was was too stupid, it’s why he is a cop now)
Well I did call that Billie thinking Sal is Amazi-girl would play into this, I assumed it would be in a more comedic way but I readily accept this as well
My headcanon: he doesn’t want to admit it, but the last time beard cop messed with a “science project” in a college dorm, it took him a week to wash the resulting smell off. He doesn’t want to risk that happening again.
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All Cops Arenomatchfor Billingsworth
Also, technically correct is the best kind of correct.
Jennifer to the rescue?!?!
An unlikely ally saves the day!!!
Head Cheerleader = Problem Solver for realz?!
It’s her whole thesis for why she’s in the group!
An excellent callback to “Jennifer believes Sal is Amazi-Girl”.
HAH! Totally missed that. Sal’s never escaping those allegations now. Also, Jennifer, please text someone that you did so.
Oh good save girl.
I know right, Malaya really killed it with the Schrodinger’s Lizard experiment.
So to speak.
Well, maybe she did, maybe she didn’t. Possibly both and neither.
Maybe Sal IS Amazi-Girl.
At this point, there’s more evidence that she is than not.
Whoever called “Billiefer ex machina” can take a bow.
Weirdly, my tablet called it. I typed “costume to ” and its autocomplete suggested “Billie” with no further prompting.
I did not anticipate Jennifer acting unprompted on her belief that Sal is AmaziGirl.
Once again, reality has failed me.
Maybe we’ve all been sleeping on autocompletomancy????
The Groucho Glasses for the win!
PROBLEM.
SOLVER.
Fuck yeah BILLIFER!
Fuck yeah indeed.
… oh my god, this only worked because of her abject stubborn nonsense beliefs.
A reminder Billie has never SEEN Amazi-Girl has she? So she has no idea she’s white.
(Mind you, any research would also reveal Sal and Amazi-Girl fought in public)
She has. She’s seen her, spoken with her, and ridden on her back.
Well plenty of people don’t know if Jesus is white or not after he carries them and there’s only that one set of footprints.
funniest possible response, thank you
incredible
Interesting that she was able to correctly identify Amazi-Girl as a Nerd, yet still somehow believes Sal is AG
In fairness, Jennifer knows firsthand the lengths to which a closet nerd can go to to keep their hobbies hidden.
Jennifer? Doing research?
Ha! That’s nerd shit.
She has, she was at the party when Joyce was drugged.
Also Amazi-Girl ‘saved’ her from punching Ruth.
She has, though very little since Book 1. They literally had a face-to-face conversation in Book 1 after AG carried Billie away from a fight with Ruth. Billie must be “colorblind” or something.
I think she’s at least been heavily inebriated in most of her encounters? So her memory might be less than reliable
She was drunk for the first one but was sober and going to class for the second.
Browsing through https://www.dumbingofage.com/tag/jennifer+amazi-girl/ I found only two occasions Billifer might’ve got a good look at Amazi-Girl.
The first was https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/04-the-bechdel-test/nerds/ when Amazi-Girl carried her; there was no indication that she’d been drinking, other than that it was book 1 and, back then, Billifer was basically always drinking when the opportunity presented itself. So… probably at least somewhat drunk.
The second was in a party where she was distracted looking after Joyce (and had not only been drinking but had gotten pre-drunk before arriving). Not linking that directly to avoid my post going into automoderation.
Which it will only reinforce.
I really love this bit. I really just love this character
That’s such a sweet comment! 😀 (And you are very correct to do so!^_^ )
I was thinking how a Sal arrest would validate Jennifer but be awful. This is perfect.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHH
*breathes*
HAAAA
Shoutout to the commenter yesterday or the day before who said that Jennifer would use Sal getting arrested as confirmation of her being Amazi-Girl, you almost had it
So basically there’ll be no convincing Billie/Jennifer that Sal is not Amazgirl?
She will now feel justified in her reasoning!
Is she wrong? The proof is right there!
Sal’s web of lies falls before Billingsworth’s amazing skill as a reporter.
Looks like Lon needs tagged in Dec 26 and 27
maybe lon is a friend for fuckface and is in the cage.
i posted before registering htat the beard cop calls bald cop lon
Well, there’s no evidence the strip doesn’t contain two Lons.
Whoohoo!
Don’t trust a cheering Sirksome.
On one hand Sal is safe
On the other Jennifer is now even more convinced she’s Amazigirl
Also weirdly considerate cops, I kind of expected them to be turning the rooms upside down
I love their weird respect for SCIENCE
Maybe Ion is like an archetypal Willis character that tried to escape his fundamentalist background by becoming a scientist but ran out of money and fell back into the life of a police officer instead but secretly yearns to come out as a gay anarchist rebel.
Or maybe he’s just being lazy and knows the warrant (if it exists) only covered places the costume exists.
Hell, I’d read that fanfic.
lon is bald cop, we do not have a name for beard cop yet. but yes beard cop being a failed scientist woud be good
As Ruth pointed out, they don’t have a warrant. They’re already on the knife edge of being sued for this illegal search & seizure. If they break shit, they’re fucked
They don’t need a warrant if the school granted them permission, which it probably did
They need a warrant to enter any individual domiciles. Dorm rooms have fourth amendment protections.
If so, they should be in serious legal trouble. Sure, cops do this kind of thing and get away with it, but that’s because they do it to people who can’t afford good lawyers.
That’s not the case on this floor. Most obviously Carla’s parents can put an entire team on it with their pocket change, but even the Walkerton’s have decent money.
Yeah, in this case the school is functioning like a landlord, and most places your landlord can’t let the cops into your rental without a warrant or your consent.
They didn’t say they didn’t have a warrant. They just declined to answer someone who has no real legal standing to ask.
TBH, Ruth should have some legal standing to ask, I think, since she’s the RA and has the authority to kick people out, it would be reasonable for her to demand that she be shown a warrant or evidence that they have obtained permission from the school, since they are not being escorted by a resident, as required by the residence hall rules.
“As a reminder, residents are responsible for their guest’s behavior and should accompany them whenever they are inside the residential facility.” [Emphasis mine]
That would be a particularly weird legal twist: They technically need a warrant, but don’t have to show it to anyone who’s actually likely to be present.
They do apparently have room keys (or some kind of master key more likely), which suggests that they do have some kind of permission.
In IU’s specific case, IU appears to have its own campus police force and they would therefore be naturally allowed to be in the common areas for the same reason, say, Ruth’s boss can also show up.
Oh no, one of the cops has a name. That means he’ll show up again!
I was going to say he wouldn’t be the first tagged character to make one appearance and disappear forever, but he’s tagged in two strips retroactively.
He’s not tagged in the one where AG tagged his face. yet
Everyone else go home. Billie is the new queen.
Was there ever any doubt?
It helps that she’s committing obstruction of some sort.
not a trace of doubt in my mine
… Someone called it and I wish i’d believed it. For one, Jennifer’s bullshit pays off.
Problem is, of course, no one will ever be able to correct her anymore.
Guess will just have to assume the series ends with Jennifer none the wiser, too bad.
So what you are telling me, is that Sal blinded them with Science?
Err, Jennifer, sorry.
Malaya did.
good job, jenny
This reminds of the bit in Star Wars when the stormtroopers are searching Mos Eisley, and one of them knocks lightly on a door and declares ‘no answer, move along’ without even waiting.
The Empire can’t change that fascists are lazy AND stupid.
Like not leaving a squad at the Owens moisture farm to capture the third person who obviously lived there…
“Hold your fire, no life signs aboard.”
Like…maybe someone put the plans there?
You may call that lazy, but i say they care about their jobs just about as much as i care about mine. They’ve been out in the desert heat in those white, hard plastic suits for hours knocking on doors without results. I would also want to hurry up and get it over with so i could get out of that helmet and go get a drink.
ACAB, but many of them are also lazy and stupid too.
Ack. I accidentally clicked the Report comment when trying to scroll. I didn’t mean it! I’m so sorry!
Avalon uniform!
Man, I should go back and read that comic again. I remember loving it in 2002…
Am I reading this right? The “science experiment” is Fuckface and not the Amazi-Girl costume?
Yes, Jennifer somehow packed up the costume in her bag
Which implies she knew where the costume was, and was tipped off on the police raid early enough that she had enough time to get to Read and retrieve it before the cops arrived.
It’s highly improbable that word got to her via Dorothy’s text chain first, because Dorothy only found out about the raid after other people saw police at the building.
Maybe Asher really is the unknown number who texted Amber?
Well now this is just unrealistic. Cops on a revenge trip being considerate of science?
i mean cops always seem to act all nice at first,
but mind you the cops pepper spraying journalists in recent years were very likely also the “nice cop” at school a few months back
This is honestly one of the most disturbing things to think about for me. As a kid one of my friend’s dad was a cop. The school I went to had cops who seemed like chill bros and cool dudes. As I’ve gotten older, I cannot help but wonder… what were Officers X and Y and Z like on duty? What terrible things had they seen and done while also putting on a friendly face for a bunch of schoolkids?
Dear Willis, please ignore any and all comment reports from me forever. It’s right where my finger scrolls on the phone.
I’ve never intended a report.
I reported you for reporting, and I also reported the comment you reported, just to make it more likely for your mistake to cost someone their life. When a comment is deleted, the person who wrote it dies, and now that blood is on your hands in the real world, Jeff. You murderer.
It depends on what you mean by “terrible things they have seen and done”. If you mean police misconduct, that is a highly tailed distribution, with a small fraction of police officers accounting for the supermajority of problems. It’s a systemic issue that the bad cops aren’t punished, but odds are that any nice cops you know probably are genuinely nice. If you mean dealing with the ugly side of humanity, then yeah, outside like sleepy rural towns most cops have done some sort of violence at one point or another, because doing state-sanctioned violence is a core part of the job. I remember a Portland police officer telling me that every so often his department gets a new recruit who comes in with an idealistic notion that they will serve and protect with kindness and understanding, that they will never have to use violence if they deescalate. He said they usually burn out, because in reality some people will not comply no matter what you say or do, and then you have to use force. As he put it, you can’t be police if you are unwilling to hit somebody.
It’s interesting how you describe the whole problem at the end there, but framing it in terms of “people will not comply”.
The point of laws and law enforcement is to coordinate force against people who will not comply with the rules of society. Law enforcement doesn’t need to be done by specific officers, some societies had it as a duty of all free men, but I don’t know of any way to do it without violence.
If there are 10 people at a table happily sharing lunch and one of them is an out and proud Nazi, then there are 10 Nazis sitting at that table. Although it may be true that 9 of them are actually quite nice in private.
I disagree strongly with this thesis. Firstly, I don’t believe in guilt by association. Secondly, I don’t believe in giving the enemy free recruits by shunning people who can still be saved. Thirdly, Daryl Davis is my hero, and he has sat down with hundreds of members of the Ku Klux Klan, and by doing so gotten over two hundred of them to quit. I once stopped a man from going down the rabbit hole into Holocaust denial, and I’m glad I met him where he was at instead of calling him a Nazi and bailing.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/daryl-davis
That’s cool and all, but back in the 1940s, a bunch of folks got together and figured out a way to stop literally millions of Nazis from being Nazis in just a few years. It was 100% effective every time.
And if the Nazis start another war I’ll be happy to take up arms and deliver upon them another loss. Until there is a war on though, I will break bread with anybody willing to break bread with me.
I read the “happily sharing lunch” part as indicating that “attempting to convince the out and proud Nazi to maybe try not subscribing to a hate-filled ideology” wasn’t part of the proceedings.
I anticipatied there be at least one bootlicker but it’s still disappointing.
I’m sorry to disappoint, but I really cannot see any way past the violence inherent in the system. The best I got is acknowledging the necessity of force, insisting that it that it be restricted to the necessary minimum, and demanding severe punishment on officers who exceed their mandate and abuse their power.
In elementary school, one of my best friends was like the sweetest kid ever, and both her parents were cops. My friend had her eyesight significantly damaged, almost going blind, because of medical malpractice, and my mom had to convince her parents to sue the doctor (who had flat out admitted to the parents he hadn’t done some monitoring he was suppose to). And yet… they were cops, going from the suburb we lived in to the bigger city with highly reported cases of police corruption for work.
Cops half-assing it is perfectly believable.
If we’re being “realistic”, the cops possibly wouldn’t know an iguana is against the school rules and certainly wouldn’t care enough to do anything about it. They’re here on their own this time, the school didn’t call them. And if we’re being “realistic” I also have doubts that them finding the superhero costume would even be admissible evidence in court for both “cape don’t fit you must aacquit” reasons and 4th amendment concerns.
But we’re not being realistic, we’re being a gag-a-day cartoon strip that deals with political themes and while finding the right balance on the silly-to-serious dial is something DoA sometimes struggles with, I think it’s entirely appropriate for the iguana issue to be solved in a silly way because it was barely an issue in the first place, either “realistically” or in the comic trying to get us to care, and Jennifer raiding Sal’s room for the costume makes sense and pays off a running joke over a decade in the making, so that’s fine too.
Yeah, the version of this where they take the cover off is that there’s a moment of acknowledgement that that there is an Iguana and then they keep looking, which is less funny.
“…ayep, that’s Science, all right”
Fortunately for all parties involved, Jennifer has shifted the tone back to gag-a-day comedy and the cops respecting Malaya’s obvious bullshit is funnier than the alternatives.
Not as unrealistic as Sal thinking her closet was a safe place to hide evidence. That’s the sort of thing Joyce might do.
Early Joyce would assume the cops would understand and be sympathetic to stopping bad cops.
tbf, Sal might not have known that AG was injured fighting cops, only that she didn’t want to draw attention by going to the hospital with very hard-to-explain-away injuries; and if she didn’t know that their were cops involved, she certainly wouldn’t have expected cops to show up and search the dorm.
Were there any strips where Sal was shown to even be aware of the protest and crackdown? She might have been otherwise occupied the whole time.
I’m honestly curious how a student at a Uni, even a large one,
could NOT know there is/was a protest for weeks and that it was
broken up by the police?
It wasn’t for weeks. It was just starting.
For you, the protest was a months-long ordeal of love, violence, and betrayal. But for Sal, it was Saturday.
I think that’s one of the reasons people keep complaining about Joyce and Dorothy – they think it’s been some long stretch of time for them with “no consequences”. The protest, the police starting to riot, and The Smooch all happened on Saturday afternoon. Current in-comic time is Monday morning. The comic severely decompresses time, due to its strip-a-day nature.
There’s two wings, 4-5 floors per wing, and “dozens” of rooms per wing. Even dividing up the building, they are probably bored at this point and want to go back to playing candy crush or torturing homeless people.
at least the costume is out of view,
but something tells me the worse is yet to come 👀
Billie, you precious dumbass!
I have another reason to like you.
Wow, kudos to those who called this! I didn’t think there was any way this was going to happen.
Of course, now no one is ever going to be able to convince Jennifer that Sal isn’t Amazi-Girl.
i mean, amazigirl could start a mini army of ppl dressed like her to confuse ppl but surely there’d be pics of amazigirl out there where she’s clearly lighter skin toned than sal
Joyce already mentioned that to Jennifer, but she just chalked it up to racism.
Amazi-Girl’s just that committed to her disguise. If you’re not changing your skin colour, hair length and body type when you switch between your superhero mode and your secret identity, are you even trying?
Hell yes, something to cheer about finally other than the disaster lesbians
Okay this is. the funniest payoff to one of the longest running jokes in the entire comic. really great job
Indeed. Long running payoffs for the win. I’m aware that neurodiversity prevents some people following the long wait, but me, I love this. All praise to the long haul Willis!
Never stopped Billie-ving
Hold on to that feeling.
This ammunition is gonna fuel her for years.
Great strip.
JENNIFER WITH THE STEEL CHAIR!
literally went :O upon seeing this
It’s Lin Stoppable!
But where’s Jim Possible?
*Lon, darn it, I ruined my own joke.
You created a new one! I was wondering if LIN STOPPABLE was a villain in Kim Possible who had a kerning problem and was really just the angular version of UN STOPPABLE.
Like… ЏN STOPPABLE without the descender.
ooh, the science project is hiding fuckface isn’t it
Seems to be, so she did Malaya a solid as well.
I’m not sure it’s meant to be Billie that covered the cage, could be but my first thought was that’s just how Malaya leaves it when they’re out. Do iguanas like dark?
We’ve seen the “Science project” bit before.
So, what makes her think the cops won’t find some excuse to snoop in her bag?
I think she’s expecting this to go in waves and by the time they get to her residence hall she’ll have been able to get it back to Sal
Also they’re raiding Read hall specifically and Jennifer lives in a completely different building. I know cops have a lot of unchecked power now but they still have to justify shit to superiors. Sweeping one hall is much easier to get away with than committing lots of time to searching multiple buildings with no warrant. Someone will start wondering what the fuck these guys are doing and why.
Isn’t she throwing it away?
That’s a bed.
The Cops are after Amazi-Girl specifically and she’s known to live in this specific residence building. They probably won’t break into literally every girl’s dorm on campus, because it probably wouldn’t work and people would rightfully get pissed at them for it.
I think the last panel is Billie back in her own room in Forest Quad already. That looks to be a bed in the ol’ Dragons navy and gold there.
i mean she is technically rich even if not ‘carla rich’ so she could porlly get connections too
I forgot that she still probably thinks Sals Amazi-girl.
This twist is so amazing XD
Ugh, I just knew Sal being uncharacteristically bad at hiding Amber’s costume was going to be used to prolong the old “Jennifer still thinks Sals lying about not being Amazi girl” gage.
Amazi-Girl will freak out when she finds out Billie threw away her costume.
She appears to be just pulling it out onto her own bed, not throwing it away.
Sometimes we can have characters doing stupid things for the sake of a joke, as a treat.
Especially if their so doing rescues a popular character, and has nothing to do with certain other characters
Ugh, consistency. Ew. Gross.
At least this time it’s an amusing (and helpful!) twist on the bit. 🙂
Head cheerleader, problem solver coming in clutch.
Jennifer making a strong case for being the goat of this book
Don’t love seeing the cop inspecting the schoolgirl uniform
Less or more so than them roughing up college kids for protesting against their campus for funding wars?
That’s a whole new sentence man.
Just in case the dialogue wasn’t enough to ensure the audience knows they’re currently searching Sal’s closet.
Oh this was WONDERFUL, 10/10 strip
Jennifer one again proving she’s best girl
Keep in mind this also implies Jennifer speedran breaking in to Sal’s place, speedran finding the costume, and then just calmly exited the building through a dozen or so cops. I really haven’t given her enough credit in the past.
This also pretty heavily implies she was tipped off as well, which heavily implies the source was Asher, since he’s the only other one who would have inside knowledge about Sal and Amazi-Girl, but also the cops.
Head cheerleader, problem solver.
Why would Asher tip off Jennifer? They didn’t exactly part on good terms and she doesn’t have any connection to Amazi-Girl that he knows of. She doesn’t even live in the dorm that’s getting raided.
Partially because he’s implicated, partially because on some underlying level, he clearly cares about Sal. He knew Sal was the one hiding Amazi-Girl’s gear after he hooked them up with a chop doc. If Sal gets caught with that, it’s bad for her, which is bad for him. But, he happens to know a person who builds their whole identity off of doing shit like this, who could conveniently slip in and out, and solve the problem. He probably didn’t even have to offer her anything in return, Jennifer will do shit like this purely for the self-satisfaction.
Good thing locks are no problem for Jebillifer…
Sal has never used the door so we don’t know if it’s been locked or not.
It’s probably ominous foreshadowing that one of these cops is tagged. This is not the last we’ve seen of lon. It’s also probably ominous foreshadowing that he’s tagged “lon” when I copy and paste into this comment box with a serif front, and not “Lon” or “Ion”. Is that meant to be an I and it’s a typo or is his name “Lon” and he actually doesn’t capitalize it?
No one’s name is capitalized in tags, I’m an idiot.
I really wish I could delete or edit comments on here because sometimes I just post the dumbest shit.
And he’s referred to as Lon in the comic I literally just read ten seconds ago AND it’s the bald guy and not the beard guy who’s Lon so I was fucking up on literally every level.
But you were entertaining while you did it, so that’s the silver lining for the cloud.
But that only deepens the mystery. Ion is a name (the Romanian version of John). What is “Lon”?
IIRC Lonnie is a pet form for Alonzo, Lawrence, Leonard, etc, which makes me think Lon probably is as well.
I saw Lon Cheney, Jr. walking with the Queen
Doing the Werewolves of London…
Hey, Jennifer still thinks Sal is AG, and look how well that’s working out for everyone. Sometimes fucking up on multiple levels comes back around.
She’s said it herself, she does dumb things the smart way and smart things the dumb way.
She probably had no idea the costume was hidden in Sal’s closet because Sal’s stashing it for Amazi-Ber, she just defaulted to going there because “Sal is Amazi-Girl”.
…Yeah.
@ESM: Maybe it will turn out that the bearded cop’s name is Ion.
Eh, I mistook Jennifer’s bed for a dumpster.
wouldn’t be surprised if tehy were related or distantly connected to the students if not a satfff
Not to add insult to injury, but it’s not an I in the tag, for that matter. https://jsfiddle.net/mindset/u1x2cLrd/
Man these more serious trips sure hit alot better when there isnt a total whiplash yuk yuk in the last panel.
Great strip
The serious and the yuk-yuk aren’t separate in real life either.
Yes, there are absolutely no yuks in this strip where Billie saves the day with her completely stupid continuing belief that Sal is Amazi-Girl, and the cops conducting an illegal search of the dorm don’t look in the iguana cage because it says “SCIENCE” on it.
and billie it is!
and she;s even more convinced
oh my god this owns. billifer forever.
“Jennifer thinks Sal is Amazi-girl” is usually one of my least favorite running gags, but I can’t even be mad. This is very heartwarming.
all-time payoff of a bit
Cop: Yeah, no, I don’t care if it’s science. I gotta make sure there’s no costume in here.
*lifts blanket
*sees Fuckface
Cop: Huh. Yeah, that’s science all right.
Fuckface needs to be wearing a costume.
Now that you mention it…have we ever seen Fuckface and Amazi-Girl together? I think not. Hmmm….
Well, now someone’s gonna be more insufferable than usual.
yep
Confirmation bias aside, It’s really sweet that she cares about Sal ❤️
Time will tell, but my impression is she’s doing primarily this for clout. She needs to prove that Sal is Amazi-Girl, and she wants leverage against Dorothy.
Actually this is so that Jennifer can prove she pulls off the look better than Totally Sal.
The campus will soon be kept safe by the Golden Dragon.
What does this have to do with Dorothy?
Stupid question arent during search should be present owner or representative?
Doesn’t have to be from my understanding, but it probably depends on the type of warrant issued. They can have someone arrested, who lives alone, and get a warrant to search the rest of the possessions to additional violations or evidence.
If you have someone arrested true, but there they search Innocent until proven citizen room because there can be something
Reasonable cause is our case here, multiple sightings of AG near this quad and her activities at the protest.
prolly an illegal search to begin with..
wonder if htey’d bother arresteing meredith or any other pot smokers tho
Probably? It’s Indiana! Of course it’s illegal but the stupid cops don’t care
If they’ve got a warrant, no. They don’t have to wait for you. What if you’re on the run?
Well, looks like we need to add iguana to the “can you lick the science” list, cus it’s official science now.
YES…. YESSSSSSSSS this is exactly what i was hoping for!!!
Also glad to see fuckface isn’t being found out either. Very glad the cops actually decided not to bother the “experiement”, would not have been at all shocked if that hadn’t been true
Called it. So hard.
I guess I should’ve expected Jennifer to be the one to take the Amazi-Girl costume before the cops found it, since she probably still thinks Sal is Amazi-Girl. I would be disappointed that there’s no drama from this so far, but much as I dislike some characters in this strip, I really didn’t want to see any of them get arrested by the cops.
I’m wonder which cop is Lon, the bald one or the one with the beard?
The bald one. Read the comic.
From the speech balloons, I’m pretty sure it’s Beardy addressing Baldy as “Lon”.
Bald one or the mostly off-panel one in panel 1, since the word balloon comes from the left of the cage.
Shoutout to Billifer knowing how to pick a lock. <3
This gets a big fat “noice” from me.
Jennifer is best girl!!
CHEERLEADER PROBLEM SOLVER!!
love how Jennifer pulled this off, Jennifer is officially in the ranks of favorite characters for this arc.
She fixes things. 😉
(Twin Peaks the Return reference time) Jennifer was always cool
Jennifer Billingsworth you beautiful bisexual you!
I wonder if her pursuit of AG has gone from proving she can do journalism to wanting to be AG’s Lois Lane?
Y’know part of me is a little disappointed we’re just diffusing the tension like that but the way in which it was done was so spectacular I’m actually pretty happy about it.
I mean, amazi-amber is still on the ledge, so…
Pseudo-siblings look out for each other ya know.
ahahahhahaha.
Now that was truly the best unexpected solution!
Damn you Willis! 😛
Wow, what a great save from Billie that will no doubt lead to wacky hijinks with Sal later and OHMYGOD AMBER GET OFF THE LEDGE
Third Eye Blind did a song about that once
Billie ex machina? Deus ex Jennifer?
Guess it depends on which you prefer
“Billy in the Machine” or “The God in Jennifer”
Dang. How could this gag pay off this much
I wonder about walky’s ‘night guy’ costume unless that just seems like jammies to them
It’s probably not in the girls’ dorm, anyway
yay biliefer but surprised they’d respecct it versus risking an infection i guess
In Which Billie Saves The Day
I knew it! I knew we were about to get the payoff to Jennifer believing Sal is Amazi-Girl. I love it!
Jen hype! Lets fucking go girl!!
(someone tell Amber to get off of the side of the building please)
I do like that this led to a callback to “Billie thinks Sal is Amazi-Girl because she’s the worst(period)reporter(period)ever(period)”, and part of me would miss that gag going away, but for Billie’s sake I think I’d like to see this storyline resulting in Billie *finally* finding out.
Like, she deserves it at this point, right?
She’s been told directly that Amber is Amazi-Girl and she just rejected it. I’m not sure what could possibly get through to her at this point.
“Yeah we’re conducting a warrantless search in violation of civil rights, but a paper sign suggesting whatever is going on under this large box-shaped object is collegiate level science is far too precious to be investigated further.”
It really does undercut things.
Like it’s fine if the fascist cops are also bumbling idiots who don’t really care about the job in general, but here aren’t they supposed to be motivated by looking for the girl who beat them up?
Amazi-Girl’s short, but she’s not going to fit under that cloth.
She is still wrong… but Heroically wrong XD
fuckface (aka science project) is safe, good
Alpha-Bongo comes through. 😀
I hate that the stupidest misunderstanding has ended up giving a good outcome. But I am also relieved.
……Willis. You beautiful. Beautiful genius. Are you fuckin kidding me. Of course. of COURSE.
head cheerleader gets things done…………..
Hooray fir Jennifer for saving Sal from the Lon arm of the law
Ok cue the Mr Peabody tuba fart for that
Ahahahaha, I can’t believe you actually made the “Jen inexplicably thinks Sal is Amaz-Girl” plotline come back around
Seriously? They’re looking for Super Hero costumes on a college campus? Have they met the comics geeks that inhabit your average dorm? If they only find a dozen or so they didn’t search very well.
I assume that they aren’t looking for “super hero costumes” in general, but rather they’ve looked at footage of the incident and know what Amazi-Girl’s suit looks like. After all, they’re searching for someone who’s beaten up a bunch of their colleagues, and cops tend to be surprisingly efficient at that kind of task.
One can never have too many leather jackets
That “science project” reaction is the most “campus cop” thing I think I’ve seen since I left college myself.
F#ckface is saved, thanks to, science?
OK. As soon as Amber climbs back in from the ledge, I can breath again.
Jennifer is a brilliant idiot, and I love her for it.
Step 1 in Lucy becoming Amazi-Girl II.
Jen: You owe me, Sal
Sal: …
Jen: That thing
Sal: …
…
…
The prestige!
That cop recalls his broken dreams of being a scientist, he has a full Ego style flasback. (They broke was because he was was too stupid, it’s why he is a cop now)
Well I did call that Billie thinking Sal is Amazi-girl would play into this, I assumed it would be in a more comedic way but I readily accept this as well
oh my fucking god of course. of course. of couuuurrrrse. i love it here happy bleeding anniversary
I also hope this leads to more Fuckface appearances, since the last time he appeared was literally 15 months ago (irl time, not comic time)
The cops not looking there because they’re respecting a science experiment seems like the most unrealistic thing to yet happen in the comic. 🙂
My headcanon: he doesn’t want to admit it, but the last time beard cop messed with a “science project” in a college dorm, it took him a week to wash the resulting smell off. He doesn’t want to risk that happening again.
SOMEBODY BETTER PICK UP THAT PHONE
BECAUSE I FUCKING CALLED IT
*high five*
Phew, fuckface is safe.
Anyway Jibbifarn is a good egg in my book. She can have this confirmation that Sal is amazi-girl, as a treat.
(LAUGH) Jennifers *incredible density* saves the day.