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by David M Willis on February 11, 2019 at 12:01 am
  • 02 - But the Sun Still Shines
└ Tags: amber, sal

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    February 11, 2019 at 12:02 am | #

    CLEARLY he’s Angel Food Cake

    with strawberries

    and a doofy hatwhipped cream

    • Ana Chronistic
      Ana Chronistic
      February 11, 2019 at 12:03 am | #

      also, DANG two hours?? I break after like five minutes

      • lilyliv --> ian livs
        lilyliv --> ian livs
        February 11, 2019 at 12:06 am | #

        SAME, though. :/

      • Agemegos
        Agemegos
        February 11, 2019 at 12:22 am | #

        Twenty minutes for me.

        • Nelly Dreadful
          Nelly Dreadful
          February 11, 2019 at 3:03 pm | #

          Varies in my case, depending on degree and type of social interaction, available buffers, and how much warning and time to brace myself I had beforehand.

          Extreme unexpected emergency social stress can also mean all bets are off. The holiday meeting of a crafting society my mom and I are members of took a… dramatic turn when a member of the executive used her speech to accuse the membership of not appreciating all the hard work she did and burst into tears. Then afterwards everyone started the christmas party like nothing happened? My social threshold IMMEDIATELY zeroed out faster than I’d actually thought possible and triggered a more complete than usual withdrawal.

          Mom: “Excuse me, has anyone seen my daughter? I think she got a little overwhelmed and needed a time out.”

          Me: “… A LITTLE BIT YES.”

          Mom: “… Where are you?”

          Me: “SOMEWHERE NORMAL DOING SOMETHING WELL ADJUSTED AND DEFINITELY NOT HIDING UNDER A TABLE IN THE HALLWAY.”

          Mom: “Of course. Let me know if you want me to bring you a cupcake.”

          Me: “… YES PLEASE.”

          • PSadlon
            PSadlon
            February 11, 2019 at 3:56 pm | #

            This.

      • Mollyscribbles
        Mollyscribbles
        February 11, 2019 at 12:35 am | #

        Keep in mind, she must’ve worked to train that up so she’d be able to be outdoors and interacting with people for superhero reasons.

    • Marsh Maryrose
      Marsh Maryrose
      February 11, 2019 at 12:30 am | #

      In keeping with the “good egg” theme, wouldn’t he be more of a custard or a meringue?

      No, wait — he’s definitely a flan. Well, maybe a quiche. But I’m going with flan.

    • Tawdry Quirks
      Tawdry Quirks
      February 11, 2019 at 12:50 am | #

      I thought the bisexual desert was supposed to be lemon bars. Not that I’m particularly into lemon bars. But the only bi stereotypes I really conform to are not sitting in chairs properly and cuffing all my clothes.

      • Kat
        Kat
        February 11, 2019 at 1:27 am | #

        Wait, not sitting in chairs properly? Tell me more…

        • Tawdry Quirks
          Tawdry Quirks
          February 11, 2019 at 1:53 am | #

          Examples include sitting perched like a bird, having one leg propped under you and one leg up, feet tucked under in contexts too formal for sitting so casual, chair at weird angle in relation to desk, etc. It’s the latest bi meme: https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/11/27/bisexual-sitting-chairs-meme/

          Also, I totally forgot about finger guns. I do those sometimes as well.

          • Zee
            Zee
            February 11, 2019 at 7:35 am | #

            That’s been a gay meme in general (people were making that joke about the cast of queer eye sitting in an interview) and one iake sure I adhere to

          • Vigil
            Vigil
            February 11, 2019 at 8:46 pm | #

            Whenever my LGBT friends sit anywhere in the above mentioned way I dramatically gasp and yell “BEHOLD, THE GAY AGENDA!”

            I have weirdly picked up literally every gay secondary behavior such as poor seating behaviors, posturing, and awkward hand signs and now I have set off multiple gaydars so I guess the jokes on me for being the only straight guy in the group.

            • Kat
              Kat
              February 11, 2019 at 10:22 pm | #

              Hm…of all the things I suspected that would be linked to, this is not one of them. >.> That would explain the amount of lesbian attention I get.

      • Deanatay
        Deanatay
        February 11, 2019 at 7:45 am | #

        I BAKE a tasty lemon bar. What does that make me?

      • Andrusi
        Andrusi
        February 11, 2019 at 11:29 am | #

        I thought the bisexual desert was a big sandy place that’s attracted to both forests and oceans.

        • MatthewTheLucky
          MatthewTheLucky
          February 11, 2019 at 7:06 pm | #

          Yes, but that’s nothing special. They’re not called heteromes for a reason.

  2. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    February 11, 2019 at 12:02 am | #

    Anyway, here’s Wonderbread.

    • Zach
      Zach
      February 11, 2019 at 12:08 am | #

      He looks delicious

      • Doctor_Who
        Doctor_Who
        February 11, 2019 at 12:13 am | #

        The ukulele strings would get caught in your teeth, and the hat is just empty calories.

        • ktbear
          ktbear
          February 11, 2019 at 12:30 am | #

          OMG it even has eyes and a mouth…thats just creepy!

  3. butts
    butts
    February 11, 2019 at 12:02 am | #

    oh right, the crippling social anxiety

  4. mister gray
    mister gray
    February 11, 2019 at 12:04 am | #

    OMG she is so me.

  5. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    February 11, 2019 at 12:04 am | #

    Two hours of socially friendly is about my limit too.

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      February 11, 2019 at 12:05 am | #

      Okay, if I’m with my wife or my family. Alone, much less.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      February 11, 2019 at 12:07 am | #

      Same here. No party should take longer than that.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      February 11, 2019 at 12:24 am | #

      People are great… in small doses.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      February 11, 2019 at 1:59 am | #

      It’s taken a lot of practice, but now I can be “on” for the workday as long as I take regular breaks and retreat to my solitary nerd cave after hours.

  6. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    February 11, 2019 at 12:05 am | #

    *plays ELO’s “Telephone Line” on the P.A. speakers*

  7. BassBone
    BassBone
    February 11, 2019 at 12:05 am | #

    It me.

    Are kids still saying that?

    • woobie
      woobie
      February 11, 2019 at 1:07 am | #

      Less, and they’ve grown some, and it’s partially ironic.

    • Sam
      Sam
      February 11, 2019 at 3:28 am | #

      I still say this.

    • TheFlamingonator
      TheFlamingonator
      February 11, 2019 at 7:40 am | #

      I think they say “mood.” or “big mood” but i cant keep up anymore

      and im still part of the “kids” to some aspect

      • Andrusi
        Andrusi
        February 11, 2019 at 11:30 am | #

        Sometimes they say “same hat.”

        • Shen Hibiki
          Shen Hibiki
          February 11, 2019 at 12:39 pm | #

          And I bet they don’t even -own- that helmet!

  8. Falcon
    Falcon
    February 11, 2019 at 12:05 am | #

    From personal experience as an introvert myself, it’s a muscle like any other. Socialize, look out for queues, be prepared to stumble, find supportive people, and you’ll turn out alright.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 11, 2019 at 12:12 am | #

      Yeah, that makes sense. For me, it feels like a battery I have to recharge.

    • Agemegos
      Agemegos
      February 11, 2019 at 12:23 am | #

      Queues or cues?

      Bloody English!

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        February 11, 2019 at 1:00 am | #

        A queue is a line of people. Cue is meat and barbecue sauce.

        • wwwhhattt
          wwwhhattt
          February 11, 2019 at 3:35 am | #

          I’m pretty sure you’re playing snooker wrong if you’re using sauce like that…

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      February 11, 2019 at 2:07 am | #

      Yup. Getting thrown headfirst into the corporate world did wonders for my social anxiety. (The Internet sure helped a lot too. Thanks, phpbb.) I was almost as bad as Amber up through college, and to be honest I still hate being the center of attention, but a lot of work and practice built up confidence.

  9. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    February 11, 2019 at 12:08 am | #

    Fair enough

  10. BarerMender
    BarerMender
    February 11, 2019 at 12:08 am | #

    No, Amber, don’t resign yourself to always being broken. Self-fulfilling etc.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      February 11, 2019 at 12:25 am | #

      But getting fixed is for pets.

      • hueloovoo
        hueloovoo
        February 11, 2019 at 12:03 pm | #

        I got fixed and I’m much calmer.

  11. BBCC
    BBCC
    February 11, 2019 at 12:10 am | #

    Awww, it’s sweet they both have such a high opinion of Danny. I just wish Amber had a higher opinion of herself.

    And yeah, Sal feels guilty Amber (Actually AG but Sal doesn’t know the difference) and Danny broke up. She might feel bad about Amber and Walky too but there’s probably more residual weirdness about Amber and Walky dating. I know they said they forgive each other and want to move on, but there’s still time for the brain to match that desire (Sal had to remind herself of that earlier when she was talking to Joyce).

  12. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    February 11, 2019 at 12:10 am | #

    I will agree that Danny deserved better than he was getting at the end, but I think Amber is giving herself too little credit, as per usual. If they did get back together, I would want her to keep a close eye on how she treats him, the kind of shit Mike was calling her out on, etc.

    full disclosure, I’m from an emotionally and physically abusive childhood, so maybe I am being overly sensitive on some of those past interactions, but just… it really, really rubs me the wrong way when couples tear each other down with name-calling and shouting. Like, raised voices happen, but when you’re getting rancorous, I don’t think, “This is where it’s come to”, I think about what can happen next when it keeps escalating, and that’s a really terrifying place to go to, even if it doesn’t come to blows.

    In either case, I do hope Amber and Danny can talk things out, wherever that leads them. It could be a very healing experience for both of them, but particularly for Amber. It’s good to be accountable, but you also need to realize that mistakes aren’t Game Over. You try again.

    • Sam
      Sam
      February 11, 2019 at 4:12 am | #

      Amber herself called herself out on it long before Mike did and it was part of where her self-loathing in the relationship came from. Danny brushed it off, but both AG and Amber knew it was wrong and not okay to do. Amber’s inherent reaction though is to destroy herself for making an error which is obviously not helpful – she isn’t evil for getting annoyed that Danny kept doing something she asked him not to even if she handled it poorly. Even good people sometimes do the wrong thing.

      You’re not oversensitive for finding it uncomfortable when couples raise voices, start shouting and tearing at each other with name-calling though. It shows poor communication and communication can make or break relationships. Name-calling doesn’t solve anything and just hurts each other as well and shouldn’t be part of a discussion.

  13. meep
    meep
    February 11, 2019 at 12:13 am | #

    That’s probably a new record for her. Good Job Amber!

    • Kensou
      Kensou
      February 11, 2019 at 1:20 am | #

      That’s Amber, shining example to all of us introverts.

  14. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    February 11, 2019 at 12:13 am | #

    Best way I think I can decsribe Danny in a very truthful manner would be that he’s a Hapless well nicely straight laced goodegg with endearing Charm to him. I think any girl would be happy to have him just as long as they don’t mind a bit of bad luck every now and again since he’s always finding some way of getting himself in a mess…. then again he’s been doing better lately.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 11, 2019 at 12:20 am | #

      One of his qualities is a big faith in others, which sometimes bites him in the ass, and very little faith in himself. (Though, he’s getting better on that.)

  15. Piotr W
    Piotr W
    February 11, 2019 at 12:16 am | #

    Warning: Emotional Shutdown Imminent! Warning! Warning!

    *sound of pneumatics powering down*

    • Marsh Maryrose
      Marsh Maryrose
      February 11, 2019 at 1:37 am | #

      “Danger, Sal Walkerton! Danger! Danger!”

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      February 11, 2019 at 2:15 am | #

      *Red alert klaxon*
      *Alert tone* Warning. Social anxiety containment energy field depleted. Emotional shutdown imminent.
      *Red alert klaxon continues*

  16. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    February 11, 2019 at 12:16 am | #

    Even though Ambers last two relationships went belly up because of Sal related things I think Sal’s being a bit to hard on herself. Out everything that’s happened between these two I would say whatever happened in Amber’s love life was definitely not Sals fault. I mean as much as I desperately want Amber to be with someone good for her I think it’s going to be hard to allow someone to love her if she can’t even love herself.

    • Foxhack
      Foxhack
      February 11, 2019 at 12:29 am | #

      I don’t think Sal is being too hard on herself. She knows Amber had issues with her and it caused the relationship to strain. She didn’t do anything on purpose and she knows it.

  17. Dana
    Dana
    February 11, 2019 at 12:17 am | #

    She didn’t even have the phone with her, did she? It just kind of appeared there.

    • TheFlamingonator
      TheFlamingonator
      February 11, 2019 at 7:36 am | #

      I have a theory that she learned how to make it appear out of thin air for just these situations.

    • Zee
      Zee
      February 11, 2019 at 7:39 am | #

      Contrary to popular belief, some women’s pants do in fact have pockets

      • TheFlamingonator
        TheFlamingonator
        February 11, 2019 at 7:42 am | #

        yea but theyre about as rare as white T-shirts that aren’t see-through

      • DSL
        DSL
        February 11, 2019 at 9:39 am | #

        It’s the sticking the phone in the tight-but-stretchy back pocket that baffles me. When people complain about their smartphones being broken (physically, not electronically), what surprises me is that it doesn’t happen more often.

        • ValdVin
          ValdVin
          February 11, 2019 at 6:27 pm | #

          Especially if you’re doing 2 hours of roller derby practice.

  18. Sporky
    Sporky
    February 11, 2019 at 12:18 am | #

    alt text: i like how willis likes 1 (One) Anime

    • LeslieBean4Shizzle
      LeslieBean4Shizzle
      February 11, 2019 at 12:51 am | #

      Evangelion, the anime that keeps on giving.

  19. Roger
    Roger
    February 11, 2019 at 12:21 am | #

    glad to have willis not make sal blush while saying danny’s a cupcake. real easy to have characters express fondness of each other and making it seem “shippy” or whatever, so its good to just go this dude’s sweet i like hanging out with him and i hope he finds happiness and that being it.

    My point from yesterday still stands, this rapport is weird and i don’t feel like its earned.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 11, 2019 at 12:26 am | #

      You can break a lot of ice while you’re kicking each other’s ass, sometimes. 😛

      Joke-ish answer out of the way, I think it’s a lot of good will because both of them have a weight off of their shoulders, along with knowing they could have been in deep shit but skated, no pun intended.

      Plus, you have Sal being happy Marcie’s giving her the time of day again, a lot of residual guilt the two had, and I think both of them just really wanting to make it work. They’ll probably snap at each other again eventually, but for now, they’ve got stuff going in their favor.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        February 11, 2019 at 12:38 am | #

        Yeah, they’re going on ‘I want to do this’ momentum and happiness right now. I suspect it’ll eventually be slightly more complicated – especially once AG notices she’s suddenly down one ‘sidekick’.

        And yeah, they’re taking shots at each other. Nicer ones than they might have if they hadn’t agreed to try to move on, but still poking.

    • Emily
      Emily
      February 11, 2019 at 6:40 am | #

      Yeah, I’m completely checked out of this arc at this point.

  20. Marsh Maryrose
    Marsh Maryrose
    February 11, 2019 at 12:21 am | #

    I’m with Amber. I have at most two hours of social interaction in group settings before I start shutting down. (Two hours is maybe generous.)

    • Agemegos
      Agemegos
      February 11, 2019 at 12:26 am | #

      I have twenty minutes. Visitors should go away after half an hour. They should not stay for two weeks.

  21. abysswatcher1993
    abysswatcher1993
    February 11, 2019 at 12:24 am | #

    If I am not with friends I can talk to about things I like, then I start getting bored and angsty and want to read something in AO3 on my phone.

  22. Foxhack
    Foxhack
    February 11, 2019 at 12:25 am | #

    I support the Danny / Sal Broship.

  23. jeffepp
    jeffepp
    February 11, 2019 at 12:30 am | #

    It is by will alone I se my mind in motion

  24. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    February 11, 2019 at 12:33 am | #

    People that keep saying “he desserves better blablabla”. Well that’s up for him to decide.

  25. C.T Phipps
    C.T Phipps
    February 11, 2019 at 12:34 am | #

    As a former vanilla whitebread, no, no they don’t want a girl like that. It’s never Betty, always Veronica.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      February 11, 2019 at 12:39 am | #

      You’d think it’d be easier for Archie to make his mind up then. 😉

      • C.T Phipps
        C.T Phipps
        February 11, 2019 at 1:37 am | #

        Surprisingly, for like 90% of the series run it’s usually him dating Veronica.

        It’s just readers generally liked Betty more.

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          February 11, 2019 at 1:48 am | #

          Depends what girl the writers prefer. A lot of more Betty stories have Archie liking Veronica for the glitz and glamour and Veronica being (generally) nice and cool, but Betty having more of a connection. Meanwhile, Veronica stories tend to have him only hanging around Betty when Veronica isn’t around.

          • DSL
            DSL
            February 11, 2019 at 9:34 am | #

            If there’s any consistency to how the Archie/Betty/Veronica relationship is handled, it’s that Archie sees Betty as a friend first, and is occasionally reminded (sometimes by Betty) she’s a girl-person too. Veronica is always a girl/potential gf first, last and always in Archie’s view. And her air of unattainability helps too/doesn’t help either.

            • BBCC
              BBCC
              February 11, 2019 at 2:47 pm | #

              Bold of you to assume there’s consistency. 😉

              • C.T Phipps
                C.T Phipps
                February 11, 2019 at 3:13 pm | #

                As much as comics over 70 years old can be. 🙂

                • BBCC
                  BBCC
                  February 11, 2019 at 3:23 pm | #

                  70 years and a zillion writers. Like I said, the writer is usually a better indicator on Archie’s feelings than any sort of consistency. There’s plenty where he prefers Veronica and also plenty where he prefers Betty. And this is not something that will ever get sorted out in the story.

                  It also comes with the side effect of making Archie look like an indecisive scoundrel, but that’s also been brought up more and more recently.

                • ValdVin
                  ValdVin
                  February 11, 2019 at 6:30 pm | #

                  Indecisive? They’ve all spent 70 years in high school–wait til they have to pick a college manor.

                • BBCC
                  BBCC
                  February 11, 2019 at 6:39 pm | #

                  Good god, that will be a sight to behold.

            • DSL
              DSL
              February 11, 2019 at 5:44 pm | #

              That’s why I said: “If there’s any consistency.”

              • BBCC
                BBCC
                February 11, 2019 at 6:38 pm | #

                I know, I just can’t resist taking shots at Archie. I know there are a few darker series, but Archie in general is just such a light hearted, fun series I can’t help myself. 😛

  26. WingedBeast
    WingedBeast
    February 11, 2019 at 12:39 am | #

    Okay, no.

    I’ve never been on that kind of pedestal, but I do immediately see that it’s a very lonely pedestal, as nobody lives up to what you two are requiring for being with him.

    Don’t do that to people. If you feel you’re not good for a relationship, or this particular relationship isn’t going to be good for the both of you, be honest on that. But, don’t put them on a pedestal like that. That’s a shitty thing to do to a person.

    • Sam
      Sam
      February 11, 2019 at 4:37 am | #

      I don’t think they are putting him up on a strict pedestal so much as just going ‘Danny’s pure, he deserves someone pure like him’ as more of a passive commentary. Amber is partly saying it out of self-loathing naturally but I don’t think either would like, enforce it on anyone else.

  27. David Alexander McDonald
    David Alexander McDonald
    February 11, 2019 at 12:42 am | #

    ZORRRRRP

    *click*

  28. sunflowerofice
    sunflowerofice
    February 11, 2019 at 12:44 am | #

    distractions can be great.sometimes you just need to pull away from reality.

  29. Joe
    Joe
    February 11, 2019 at 12:52 am | #

    Oh no….they’re gonna try to get him with Joyce, aren’t they?

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 11, 2019 at 12:56 am | #

      Oh my god, there is so much collateral damage in that scenario.

    • Catullus
      Catullus
      February 11, 2019 at 1:05 am | #

      That’d be such a bad idea, and now I really want it to happen.

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      February 11, 2019 at 2:37 am | #

      Oh I really hope not.

      • Geeky Warrior
        Geeky Warrior
        February 11, 2019 at 8:33 am | #

        It would never happen. Danny has met Joyce a few times and all that registers is the hat.

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      February 11, 2019 at 5:25 am | #

      Well, Joyce did crush on/obeseness over/stalk Danny in Roomies! Maybe Willis wants to explore whether they would have worked out if not for the whole ‘aliens, mind-wipe and Walky as a superhero’ thing.

      • King Daniel
        King Daniel
        February 11, 2019 at 12:40 pm | #

        Joyce did many things to get Danny’s attention in the Walkyverse, but I don’t think she ever went obese in any of those attempts.

    • Reaver
      Reaver
      February 11, 2019 at 12:08 pm | #

      Joyce isn’t pure, she’s said heck.

    • segnosaur
      segnosaur
      February 11, 2019 at 12:39 pm | #

      You know, they’ve already sort of planted the seed of that way back in one of the earliest comics.

      Dorothy had just broken up with Danny. Joe suggested finding Danny some sort of “romantically co-dependent doofus to latch on to”. Scene switches to Joyce writing up all the ways she could write her name if she were married… “Mrs. X… Mrs. Joyce X… Mrs. Joyce Brown X”.

      http://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/02-uphill-from-here/codependent/

    • Deacon Blues
      Deacon Blues
      February 11, 2019 at 9:24 pm | #

      I sort of got that impression from this, too. I actually kind of support it, since I like seeing the Walkyverse relationships through the Dumbing of Age lens, and not only do I just think that Danny and Joyce would be interesting together, I’m hoping that might make Joe jealous. I really dig Joece (Joeyce?).

  30. Dean
    Dean
    February 11, 2019 at 12:54 am | #

    Amber, only two such people exist, and they’re already in a relationship.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 11, 2019 at 12:57 am | #

      Dina and Becky?

    • Zee
      Zee
      February 11, 2019 at 7:41 am | #

      But Lucy’s not dating anyone

  31. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    February 11, 2019 at 12:59 am | #

    “He deserves someone pure”….I get maybe she’s exaggerating for the sake of emphasizing how broken she says she is, but I still have to scoff at the idea of a person being perceived as innocent, pure, or perfect when it’s more reasonable that no particular person can be any of those things especially innocent. Sure maybe someone can be just a little Innocent but not completely, the way I see it minute you’re introduced to this toxic environment you call life your tarnished forever

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      February 11, 2019 at 1:09 am | #

      That seems a little crab-buckety.

      • newllend(henryvolt)
        newllend(henryvolt)
        February 11, 2019 at 1:26 am | #

        I had a deeper monologue planned with more details but I thought Maybe I would just sum up my point with that last sentence.

        • FacelessDeviant
          FacelessDeviant
          February 11, 2019 at 1:45 am | #

          Yeah. Humans are just human. Holding out for someone who is “pure” is just setting impossible standards. Everyone has baggage, doubts, flaws.

          And thats the beauty of it.

          • Emily
            Emily
            February 11, 2019 at 6:39 am | #

            Not to mention the idea the amount of weight our society puts on purity and innocence as like desirable traits is weird and uncomfortable especially in regards to women.

    • Catman
      Catman
      February 11, 2019 at 5:30 pm | #

      I raise you a Lucy and leave it there.

  32. Marsh Maryrose
    Marsh Maryrose
    February 11, 2019 at 1:27 am | #

    Okay, we’ve been having a lot of fun with panel 3, and panel 4 has a lot of resonance for many of us, but:

    The core of this strip — the core of Amber’s story — is the bottom of panel 2. Amber sees herself as irredeemably and permanently broken.

  33. FacelessDeviant
    FacelessDeviant
    February 11, 2019 at 1:38 am | #

    Props to Amber for knowing her limits that well. I usually notice that times up after its happened.

  34. Carms
    Carms
    February 11, 2019 at 1:40 am | #

    Shit son I’m pretty sure I’m neurotypical, 2 hours of new activity new people active emotional reasoning activity with old scars TWO HOURS sheeeet

  35. BenRG
    BenRG
    February 11, 2019 at 2:06 am | #

    In which Sal realises just what a huge blow to healthy human social interaction is modern communications technology!

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      February 11, 2019 at 7:05 am | #

      Not really. Amber needed to withdraw. She was going to whether she had a phone or not.

    • Zee
      Zee
      February 11, 2019 at 8:01 am | #

      In which sal realizes that modern communications technology provides a nice escape for people with anxiety disorders, as they now have a socially acceptable way to withdraw when they feel overwhelmed rather than needing to look for an escape. Some other people might realize that it’s not causing any actual blow to healthy interaction, as most of the time it’s used to interact with people in other countries, or who just aren’t present. Hopefully they’ll also realize that face to face interaction with people who happen to be around you is no more valuable than interaction with friends through a phone

      Thanks for coming to my TED talk

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        February 11, 2019 at 10:58 am | #

        Which doesn’t mean there aren’t other more subtle consequences. I’m not actually sold on the idea that face-to-face interaction is no more valuable.

        Might not be at any particular moment, but overall it’s still a big deal. And a lot of phone use is pretty shallow interaction, not necessarily with actual friends (even online ones.)

      • seregiel
        seregiel
        February 11, 2019 at 2:27 pm | #

        And an actual ted talk: https://www.ted.com/talks/john_mcwhorter_txtng_is_killing_language_jk/up-next?language=en

    • Deathjavu
      Deathjavu
      February 11, 2019 at 8:31 am | #

      According to “think pieces” throughout the centuries, _______ has been responsible for “a huge blow to healthy human social interaction”

      – Newspapers
      – TV
      – Penny Novels
      – Chess
      – Regular Phones
      – Pool
      – Probably the first cave paintings

      Calling the new thing a social communication plague has been the norm for thousands of years.

      • Marsh Maryrose
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        February 11, 2019 at 1:34 pm | #

        Cave ruined forever now!

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        February 11, 2019 at 6:34 pm | #

        Don’t forget “the second TV”, which I remember living before, when I was a kid.

        (/ onion on my belt)

      • Bathymetheus
        Bathymetheus
        February 12, 2019 at 12:06 am | #

        The ancient Greeks thought writing would rot the minds of their children.

        Your point stands – it’s nothing new. It’s actually a constant. Technology changes the way we interact, and the changes are continuing, even accelerating. Old people like me tend to think that “kids today” are taking society to Hell in a handbasket. But it’s just changing. It is easy to see change as detrimental but it’s usually not.

    • Aro
      Aro
      February 11, 2019 at 11:37 am | #

      If I don’t have my phone, I whip out a book. If I don’t have a book, I find another way to ignore people. I’ll read the ingredients of one of those little packets of jelly if I don’t feel like talking. Technology has nothing to do with it.

  36. StClair
    StClair
    February 11, 2019 at 2:30 am | #

    “Going non-verbal now.”

  37. Keulen
    Keulen
    February 11, 2019 at 2:38 am | #

    I might be starting to ship this comic’s versions of Sal and Danny now.

  38. Eldritch Gentleman
    Eldritch Gentleman
    February 11, 2019 at 3:14 am | #

    Okay but I seriously love how cheerful and light-hearted Sal has been these days. It’s like someone rolled a giant boulder off the top of her shoulder.

    And don’t worry Amber, start small and slowly go forward, slow and steady wins the race.

  39. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    February 11, 2019 at 3:40 am | #

    Oh phew. I thought she was gonna Amazify herself.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 11, 2019 at 4:13 am | #

      Nah, she’s trying to put some distance between her and Amazi-Girl at the moment, which is why she made sure to not wear her Amazi-Skates for this.

      • JessWitt
        JessWitt
        February 11, 2019 at 4:36 am | #

        Of course, of course. I’m not keeping track of the plot intricacies so these things just slip by.

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      February 11, 2019 at 5:26 am | #

      Actually, I would have liked that because I think that the AG persona has some relevant knowledge and opinions in this matter.

  40. Bagge
    Bagge
    February 11, 2019 at 4:06 am | #

    Amber: Can’t talk. Killing spiders.
    Danny: GREAT, THERE’S STILL A BUG RIGHT HERE.

  41. kilgaen
    kilgaen
    February 11, 2019 at 7:13 am | #

    oh

  42. TheFlamingonator
    TheFlamingonator
    February 11, 2019 at 7:32 am | #

    “This Amber has reached their social quota for the day, please return in 24 hours. Thank you for your service.”

  43. Zee
    Zee
    February 11, 2019 at 8:26 am | #

    My point about Danny and Lucy dating comes back, stronger that ever

  44. Josh Spicer
    Josh Spicer
    February 11, 2019 at 8:35 am | #

    I see you Sal. I see you.

  45. DSL
    DSL
    February 11, 2019 at 9:42 am | #

    So it’s called “emotionally shutting down,” is it? I always thought it was: “OK, world, you’re not as interesting as what’s in this book/little electronic box.”

    • WikiDreamer
      WikiDreamer
      February 11, 2019 at 9:52 am | #

      I think it’s a mix of both. It’s like saying “I like you, I greatly enjoy our company, but I enjoy us best in silence and at a non-social distance at great lengths at a time because I feel awkward in social situations. Yes, even private ones, so I tend to fall back on old habits.”
      If you find the present company boring, you don’t do what Amber did and politely say something about it. You’d just grab your nearest distraction and let that take you attention without warning.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      February 11, 2019 at 10:53 am | #

      Sometimes it can be.

      In this case, it’s an introvert who’s been exerting great effort for hours to be social and interactive and now needs a break from that and is using the phone to do so, after explaining what she’s doing.

    • ischemgeek
      ischemgeek
      February 11, 2019 at 11:17 am | #

      Admittedly for me part is that I am hyperexcitability and mildly autistic but for me it was/is less “not as interesting” and more “it’s Too Much” and I need something to block it out. Because hyperextend, reading helps.

      • ischemgeek
        ischemgeek
        February 11, 2019 at 1:07 pm | #

        Hyperlexic not hyperexcitability fuck you very much autocorrect.

  46. ischemgeek
    ischemgeek
    February 11, 2019 at 11:13 am | #

    Amber is relatable here. Introversion generally have a smaller social energy gas tank than extroverts so when we hit our limit we need to hermit a bit to refuel.

    My habit is volunteering for duties everyone else at work hates because tedious and using that to get my refuel time but yeah.

    Extroverts don’t get I at all but there are times when I get home that I am so socially drained I don’t speak at all for two or three hours. Thankfully my partner gets it but yeah.

    • APersonAmI
      APersonAmI
      February 11, 2019 at 11:49 am | #

      I heard a youtuber once describe it as “Extroverts gain mana from socializing, introverts lose mana. When you are making inqonsequential small talk at me, you are *draining my mana*.”

      It’s not how I describe it, but I liked that way of phrasing it.

      I, too, sometimes needs hours to recharge after work before I can speak again. I’m also glad my partner gets it. I feel you.

    • JBento
      JBento
      February 11, 2019 at 3:54 pm | #

      My job involves me listening to audio recordings of people and transcribing what they say. It’s only SLIGHTLY less draining than actual people.

      The current best times of my week are the two and a half hours that I spend waiting for a train in the winter at night, because the station is otherwise empty.

      • Roborat
        Roborat
        February 11, 2019 at 4:05 pm | #

        Good lord, you have to wait 2.5 hours for a train? Everyday?

        • JBento
          JBento
          February 11, 2019 at 8:13 pm | #

          No, once a week.

  47. Bagge
    Bagge
    February 11, 2019 at 1:30 pm | #

    Maybe I’m reading too much into this, but Sal seems very happy to engage in classical girl talk. Despite all her protests to the contrary, I think there might have been cases when one friend was not enough.

    Or she just has spent too much time together with Joyce.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      February 11, 2019 at 2:50 pm | #

      Sal’s had other friends besides Marcie. Her problem is when she didn’t meet their expectations, they ditched her. Marcie’s the only one who’s cared about her for her and not out of some image of what Sal is that Sal doesn’t actually fit in reality: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/pissybaby/

      Also, apparently at least some history of picking ‘the worst damn people’ besides Marcie.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        February 11, 2019 at 2:51 pm | #

        Citation of second part:http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/erase/

  48. Victor Riley
    Victor Riley
    February 11, 2019 at 4:56 pm | #

    Hmmm… is this foreshadowing for Danny to be getting with Joyce at some point? Someone “good and pure”?

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      February 11, 2019 at 5:29 pm | #

      You know, when I made my friend start reading this comic, she started shipping Danny and Joyce very earlier on. There can be hints of what looks like foreshadowing for the pairing, looking back, but then it really swerved on you. Anyway, I really doubt Danny and Joyce would happen now, but it’d be interesting in that “foreshadowing” aspect if they did.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        February 11, 2019 at 6:06 pm | #

        When Willis started foreshadowing Amber and Walky, it was when both were dating other people with little sign of that changing (see: Walking with Dina, Amber saying ‘Walky’s cute but not worth losing Danny over’ was pointed to by Willis as an example of early crumb dropping).

  49. Jenny Islander
    Jenny Islander
    February 11, 2019 at 5:27 pm | #

    Self-awareness! Self-awareness is good! Now to work on that warped normality filter and the Goddamn Tapes from your dad that you still have playing in your head.

  50. maninblack
    maninblack
    February 11, 2019 at 8:15 pm | #

    Classic Introvert

  51. Elsendor
    Elsendor
    February 11, 2019 at 10:41 pm | #

    is danny really that vanilla tho

  52. MicaXIII
    MicaXIII
    February 13, 2019 at 3:49 pm | #

    oh mood

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