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by David M Willis on August 18, 2011 at 12:01 am
  • 06 - Yesterday Was Thursday
└ Tags: dorothy, roz

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  1. Mkvenner
    Mkvenner
    August 18, 2011 at 12:01 am | #

    Wait just happened?

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      August 18, 2011 at 12:03 am | #

      Dotty said the story was dumb and Roz agreed with her, which clearly Dotty didn’t expect.

      • Mkvenner
        Mkvenner
        August 18, 2011 at 12:04 am | #

        Who the feck is Dotty?

        • Aizat
          Aizat
          August 18, 2011 at 12:04 am | #

          Dorothy.

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          August 18, 2011 at 12:05 am | #

          Dorothy of cause, Dotty is a common nickname for Dorothy where I’m from.

          • Mkvenner
            Mkvenner
            August 18, 2011 at 12:07 am | #

            Where?

            • Plasma Mongoose
              Plasma Mongoose
              August 18, 2011 at 12:10 am | #

              Australia

              • David
                David M Willis
                August 18, 2011 at 12:11 am | #

                And everywhere else, too.

              • Tristan J
                Tristan J
                August 18, 2011 at 12:13 am | #

                You’re from everywhere?! 😛

                • Plasma Mongoose
                  Plasma Mongoose
                  August 18, 2011 at 12:23 am | #

                  Everywhere is located in 11700 Preston Road, Dallas, TX according to Google Maps

                • Fata Morgana
                  Fata Morgana
                  August 18, 2011 at 12:31 am | #

                  It… it is? That’s near where I live. I’ll have to go visit Everywhere.

                • Plasma Mongoose
                  Plasma Mongoose
                  August 18, 2011 at 12:43 am | #

                  Everywhere

                • MuleyBob
                  MuleyBob
                  August 18, 2011 at 8:02 am | #

                  11700 Preston Road, Dallas, TX …

                  I’m pretty sure that is just a Whole Foods… not everywhere.

                • Blob Marley
                  Blob Marley
                  August 18, 2011 at 1:31 pm | #

                  Holy crap. Inputting address into phone navigator RIGHT NOW. I could drive to Everywhere in half an hour, tops.

                • Jetstream
                  Jetstream
                  August 18, 2011 at 6:06 pm | #

                  @Blob Marley

                  When you’re done with that, there’s a really neat all-you-can-eat Sushi place about five minutes away on Belt Line. Y’know, so you actually get something other than a trip to Whole Foods/Staples 😉

                • Plasma Mongoose
                  Plasma Mongoose
                  August 18, 2011 at 7:26 pm | #

                  I did a screen capture of where Everywhere is on the Australian Google Maps.

                  http://i1191.photobucket.com/albums/z479/Plasma-Mongoose/EverywhereTX.gif

                • Robert
                  Robert
                  August 18, 2011 at 11:45 pm | #

                  Everywhere else 😉

              • Thomas
                Thomas
                August 18, 2011 at 5:54 am | #

                Oz, you mean.

            • Kelly
              Kelly
              August 18, 2011 at 1:43 am | #

              Dotty is clearly a nickname for Dorothy, but while I know a few Dorothys, the only one I have heard being called Dotty is my grandmother. So while Dorothy sounds like a general name to me, Dotty sounds like a little old lady name.

              • la6ue mous snow angel
                la6ue mous snow angel
                January 6, 2015 at 5:07 pm | #

                NOW THAT’S JUST DOTTY

          • Canvas Hat
            Canvas Hat
            August 18, 2011 at 12:07 am | #

            Let me get this straight.
            Dotty=Dorothy
            Tubs=Billie
            Freckles=Ruth
            Mike=Mike
            Am I missing anyone?

            • Mkvenner
              Mkvenner
              August 18, 2011 at 12:09 am | #

              How do you get Dotty from Dorothy?

              • Aizat
                Aizat
                August 18, 2011 at 12:10 am | #

                The same way people get Dick from Richard.

                • MuleyBob
                  MuleyBob
                  August 18, 2011 at 8:03 am | #

                  Buy him dinner and maybe a take him to a movie?

                • AndaisQ
                  AndaisQ
                  August 29, 2011 at 9:53 pm | #

                  WITH HIS PENIS?

              • David
                David M Willis
                August 18, 2011 at 12:10 am | #

                The same way you get Maggie from Margo.

                • Ridureyu
                  Ridureyu
                  August 18, 2011 at 12:34 am | #

                  or Chuck from Charles, or Bob from Robert, or Jack from John…

                • gangler
                  gangler
                  August 18, 2011 at 1:12 am | #

                  Wait, I didn’t know about Jack and John.

                • Krepta
                  Krepta
                  August 18, 2011 at 1:57 am | #

                  Or “Hodge” from “Roger”… that one kind of went by the wayside though.

                • Plasma Mongoose
                  Plasma Mongoose
                  August 18, 2011 at 4:14 am | #

                  The way they somehow get Daisy, Gretel, Peggy or Rita from Margaret.

                • Björn
                  Björn
                  August 18, 2011 at 5:31 am | #

                  Or “Bill” from “William”.

                • Raistandantilus
                  Raistandantilus
                  August 18, 2011 at 7:18 am | #

                  I can’t speak to Daisy or Gretel, but the other two diminutives of Margaret make linguistic sense. The name Margaret is derived from the Greek word μαργαρίτης (margarites, for those of you who don’t read Greek), which means ‘Pearl.’ Rita comes from the final syllables of ‘margarita,’ the Latin equivalent of the Greek word (and also a very tasty drink). ‘Peggy’ derives from an Irish Gaelic word that also means ‘pearl.’

                  I only know this because I have a sister named Margaret, and she learned these factoids in order to justify being called Peggy.

                • Raistandantilus
                  Raistandantilus
                  August 18, 2011 at 7:32 am | #

                  A quick internet search (because I have no life) indicated that ‘Gretel’ derives from a Germanic word meaning ‘pearl.’ The internet’s claim to Daisy also being a diminutive of Margaret is that the French word for ‘daisy’ (the flower) is ‘marguerite,’ which is pronounced a lot like ‘Margaret.’

                • Roborat
                  Roborat
                  August 18, 2011 at 3:38 pm | #

                  I had a good friend proudly inform me that he had named his newborn son after his and his wife’s grandfathers. The boy was Harold Richard …, the look of horror on his face when I reminded him of that the nicknames were was priceless . Personnally I would have named him Harold William.

              • iSaidCandleja-
                iSaidCandleja-
                August 18, 2011 at 12:16 am | #

                The same way you get Jack from Jonathan.

                • Mkvenner
                  Mkvenner
                  August 18, 2011 at 12:36 am | #

                  ……Okay I know you are making that one up. 😐

                • Seerow
                  Seerow
                  August 18, 2011 at 12:57 am | #

                  Actually they’re not making that one up. Though it also is a nickname for John. Given I know of at least 2 people who are named John but get called Jack, it’s not all that uncommon.

                • Rosie
                  Rosie
                  August 18, 2011 at 2:05 am | #

                  The root name for both Jack and John is Yochanon. It’s the old Hebrew version of Jonathon. The ch is sort of a cat-with-a-hairball noise.

                • boojum
                  boojum
                  August 18, 2011 at 4:16 am | #

                  I’m pretty sure John and Jonathan actually come from different (though similar-sounding) Hebrew names– Yohannon is John
                  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_(given_name))
                  and Yonatan or Yehonatan is Jonathan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_(name)).

                • Jetstream
                  Jetstream
                  August 18, 2011 at 6:08 pm | #

                  @Mkvenner

                  Making it up? You kidding?

                  Pop culture, book by Julian May: “Jack the Bodiless.” Nickname for Jon Remillard

                  U.S. Politics: John F. Kennedy, “Jack Kennedy”

              • Baf
                Baf
                August 18, 2011 at 12:46 am | #

                Honestly, the phonetic transformation from “Dorothy” to “Dotty” is so direct as nicknames go that I’m having trouble seeing how you can be having trouble with it. “Dotty” is just “Dorothy” spoken with a lack of precision, right? Think of the “Putting On the Ritz” scene from Young Frankenstein, but imagine that instead of trying to say “Putting On the Ritz” and coming out with “POO’EEN ON A REEEEES”, he’s trying to say “Dorothy”. It would sound pretty much like “DOOOOOTEEEEE”.

                How you get Polly from Mary has always been a mystery to me, though.

                • David
                  David M Willis
                  August 18, 2011 at 1:00 am | #

                  Or “Sally” from “Sarah.”

                • Björn
                  Björn
                  August 18, 2011 at 5:30 am | #

                  Salvador! 😀

              • Slipdance
                Slipdance
                August 18, 2011 at 1:25 am | #

                Or “Susan” from “Thrakkorzog”?

                • Paul
                  Paul
                  August 18, 2011 at 3:26 pm | #

                  Now you’re doing it on purpose.

              • Nichan
                Nichan
                August 18, 2011 at 5:10 pm | #

                The same why you get Jack from Orville.

                • Nichan
                  Nichan
                  August 18, 2011 at 5:11 pm | #

                  Way, too.

            • Canvas Hat
              Canvas Hat
              August 18, 2011 at 12:09 am | #

              Walky=David.
              How could I miss that?

              • Fred
                Fred
                August 18, 2011 at 9:52 am | #

                From his last name, Walkerton.

                People sometimes call me by my last name too, specially when there is more than one Fred 😛

                • vlademir1
                  vlademir1
                  August 18, 2011 at 9:13 pm | #

                  Yeah, I get that a lot too IRL, especially at work where we’ve gone through several people with the same first name as me over the years I’ve been there.

            • Plasma Mongoose
              Plasma Mongoose
              August 18, 2011 at 12:11 am | #

              Sal=Batman 😛

            • Mkvenner
              Mkvenner
              August 18, 2011 at 12:16 am | #

              Joyce=Blue eyes white devil. 😛

            • Canvas Hat
              Canvas Hat
              August 18, 2011 at 12:20 am | #

              Amazi-Girl=UltraCar (or) Gallasso (or) Abe Lincoln.

            • Vivvav
              Vivvav
              August 18, 2011 at 1:02 am | #

              Actually, AAAAAAAH = Mike.

              • MacGravatar
                MacGravatar
                August 18, 2011 at 10:36 am | #

                Mike+Your mom = a nickel

    • Mkvenner
      Mkvenner
      August 18, 2011 at 12:15 am | #

      I’m done. I will not pursue this line of commenting anymore, as it has become rather silly.

      • Mkvenner
        Mkvenner
        August 18, 2011 at 2:03 am | #

        What, no nimb?
        You’re no fun anymore.

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          August 18, 2011 at 4:11 am | #

          NIMB?

          • Mkvenner
            Mkvenner
            August 18, 2011 at 2:01 pm | #

            I meant nibble.

          • Jetstream
            Jetstream
            August 18, 2011 at 6:09 pm | #

            NIMH? 😀

      • Hannover Fist
        Hannover Fist
        August 18, 2011 at 8:34 pm | #

        Now, I’ve noticed a tendency for this forum to get rather silly. I do my best to keep things moving along, and I’m not having things getting silly. Those last two forums I posted on gat rather silly indeed, and that last one about the necks got even sillier. Now, nobody likes o good laugh more than I do, exept perhaps my brother, and some of his friends. And my dog. Come to think of it, most people like a good laugh more than I do, but that’s beside the point. Now lets have a good, clean, healthy, outdoor forum. Get some air into your lungs! Ten, nine, eight and all that!

        • Rayrayrave
          Rayrayrave
          August 19, 2011 at 11:16 am | #

          Awww, you’re just upset ‘cuz you couldn’t think of a punchline. 😉

    • David Herbert
      David Herbert
      August 18, 2011 at 2:23 am | #

      Dorothy lost her femurs.

  2. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    August 18, 2011 at 12:02 am | #

    Dotty isn’t taking that comment too well it seems.

    • Canvas Hat
      Canvas Hat
      August 18, 2011 at 12:06 am | #

      She isn’t taking the story too well, also.

  3. Ragnal
    Ragnal
    August 18, 2011 at 12:02 am | #

    “Wow, she actually just said that, didn’t she?”

  4. Aizat
    Aizat
    August 18, 2011 at 12:02 am | #

    What is the answer that Roz wanted to hear?

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      August 18, 2011 at 12:04 am | #

      You meant Dotty right?

      • Aizat
        Aizat
        August 18, 2011 at 12:09 am | #

        No, Roz said that Dotty’s comment is pretty close to the one she wanted to hear. So, the question remains, what is the answer Roz really wanted to hear?

        • kagato23
          kagato23
          August 18, 2011 at 11:33 am | #

          My guess? That it’s a pointless story not worth having.

          She’s doing damage control, is my guess. She knows she’ll be watched. So she’s going with scandal right off. A really stupid scandal. “college girl has sex” is basically what it is. Which, honestly, is about as surprising and shocking as “college boy gets paddled to join frat”.

          There’s really little story here. So when it’s over and done with, nobody will care when she keeps doing it. Which keeps robin safe. Unless it’s a huge scandal, those things only hurt enough to decide elections if they happen right before an election. By election time far fewer people will care, especially as Robin has no doubt secured world peace.

          • Andy
            Andy
            August 18, 2011 at 10:52 pm | #

            The difference between a representative’s sister’s sex scandal and a pledge getting paddled is the pledge getting paddled is illegal. And it actually is surprising and shocking these days, in large part because of that fact. As a fraternity alum, I resent the implications you have made about fraternities.

    • Canvas Hat
      Canvas Hat
      August 18, 2011 at 12:08 am | #

      Something to the lines of “Do you want an interview?”

    • Tristan J
      Tristan J
      August 18, 2011 at 12:12 am | #

      I’m thinking Roz dislikes the fact that sex (specifically, sex between consenting adults) is seen as a moral or important issue. Knowing that the journalism student working on the story thinks the story is meaningless and stupid gives her hope for journalism and how people view sex in the future.

      She’s let down by the ableist language though, hence the ‘pretty close’, but it looks like she’s taking what she can get.

    • iSaidCandleja-
      iSaidCandleja-
      August 18, 2011 at 12:14 am | #

      She wanted to hear “No, I’m not excited to write about something so normal as sex just because it will titilate the repressed masses who are only interested because one of the people having sex is related to somebody important.”

      That, or she wanted to be propositioned.

      • Mkvenner
        Mkvenner
        August 18, 2011 at 2:07 am | #

        That’s an answer I can get behind.

        • Hannover Fist
          Hannover Fist
          August 18, 2011 at 8:40 pm | #

          You really should have had a Joe gravatar to post that.

    • Mkvenner
      Mkvenner
      August 18, 2011 at 12:17 am | #

      Are you also into girls?

      • Aizat
        Aizat
        August 18, 2011 at 12:21 am | #

        Are you answering the question or are you talking to me?

        • Mkvenner
          Mkvenner
          August 18, 2011 at 12:33 am | #

          Answering the question.

          • CP
            CP
            August 18, 2011 at 1:18 am | #

            Although…

            • Mkvenner
              Mkvenner
              August 18, 2011 at 1:29 am | #

              Put words in mouth at your own peril.

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        August 18, 2011 at 12:25 am | #

        Mkvenner, your grav is perfect for that comment.

    • Mkvenner
      Mkvenner
      August 18, 2011 at 2:09 am | #

      I hate turning you into ammo that your sister’s enemies can use against her.

    • nitpicker
      nitpicker
      August 18, 2011 at 5:27 am | #

      She wanted to hear, “I’m excited, but not about the story.”

  5. A. Colunga
    A. Colunga
    August 18, 2011 at 12:04 am | #

    Dislike Roz.

    • CP
      CP
      August 18, 2011 at 1:21 am | #

      Agree. She’s unpleasant for the exact same reason Joyce is. They both have a preconceived idea about how people should think and think it’s their primary responsibility to fix any divergence. On the other hand, at least Joyce seems capable of dealing with people outside of that context. So far, every single thing Roz has done has been in service of her crusade.

      • iSaidCandleja-
        iSaidCandleja-
        August 18, 2011 at 2:17 am | #

        Including Joe?

        • Qix
          Qix
          August 18, 2011 at 2:53 am | #

          I saw what you did there.

        • CP
          CP
          August 19, 2011 at 1:56 pm | #

          Yes, very definitely including Joe.

      • invisiblemoose
        invisiblemoose
        August 18, 2011 at 6:42 am | #

        What crusade is this again?

        • HMRC4EVR
          HMRC4EVR
          August 18, 2011 at 8:29 am | #

          Don’t call this a Crusade. I’m sure either JMS or TBS will run in, cancel it midway through the arc and leave us all hanging for the next several decades.

          Ooh, a Babylon 5 universe reference?? And I didn’t even care for Crusade that much. Prefered B5 way over it.

          Anyway, nice twist Walky. Be interesting to see where it goes next.

  6. Inara
    Inara
    August 18, 2011 at 12:07 am | #

    suddenly liking Roz despite myself – provisionally, of course. Depends on whether this was all meant to be a statement, or just a jab at her sister.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      August 18, 2011 at 12:14 am | #

      I like Roz myself, but then again, I seem to like Faz and Malaya in Shortpacked! so you can make whatever conclusions you will from these facts.

      • Marimba
        Marimba
        August 18, 2011 at 7:52 am | #

        I hate Malaya!! But I also like Roz and Faz. Faz is too funny. I hope he makes an appearance in DOA!!

        • ryan
          ryan
          August 18, 2011 at 8:36 am | #

          i can only see faz appearing as someone’s sibling or as a child prodigy that made it in. alas, my preferred scenario seems the least likely.

          • Plasma Mongoose
            Plasma Mongoose
            August 18, 2011 at 7:13 pm | #

            I would like to see a Faz show up as a teacher. >:D

  7. Cholma
    Cholma
    August 18, 2011 at 12:11 am | #

    I like how Dorothy is sitting there with her hands all properly folded, sitting in “high judgement” of Roz’s “loose morals”.

    Then: BAM! Right in the face with a sweet pickle pie! (Ultracar may not exist in this continuity, but the pies should!)

  8. Ryune
    Ryune
    August 18, 2011 at 12:11 am | #

    For shame, Dotty. You’re using ableist language in front of Roz.

    • Ryune
      Ryune
      August 18, 2011 at 12:12 am | #

      I’m suddenly realizing that everything becomes ten times more hilarious when you’ve got Walky beaming and giving it two thumbs up right next to your comment.

      • Vivvav
        Vivvav
        August 18, 2011 at 1:03 am | #

        It’s also funny when it’s positive and you have Mike glaring.

    • Björn
      Björn
      August 18, 2011 at 5:36 am | #

      Oh yeeeeah… I wonder if that was intentional?

    • Jetstream
      Jetstream
      August 18, 2011 at 6:12 pm | #

      God da… I draw the line at “dumb” being ableist language. Usage defines meaning. Dumb has meant unintelligent since the SIXTIES. It no longer refers to someone who is incapable of speech.

      So sick of “ableist” language anyway. Not everything needs an “ist,” people.

      • Cass
        Cass
        August 19, 2011 at 3:14 pm | #

        That reminds me of the first time I ever read The Trumpet of the Swan when I was a little kid; I was so confused, “He’s a BIRD, how can you tell if he’s smart or not? Not being able to honk doesn’t mean he’s stupid! And how will giving him a trumpet make him less dumb?”

        I have no idea how long it took me to figure out that “dumb” had another meaning I hadn’t known.

  9. Kernanator
    Kernanator
    August 18, 2011 at 12:16 am | #

    Pssst! I think she broke Dorothy.

    • Aizat
      Aizat
      August 18, 2011 at 12:18 am | #

      Dorothy’s already broken by Joe, I think.

      • Mkvenner
        Mkvenner
        August 18, 2011 at 12:22 am | #

        Dorothy already went to high school with him and dated his best friend/wingman.

        • Mkvenner
          Mkvenner
          August 18, 2011 at 12:22 am | #

          So Joe doesn’t really bother her THAT much.

          • Aizat
            Aizat
            August 18, 2011 at 12:24 am | #

            Really? Cause she really looked bothered in yesterday’s strip.

            • Mkvenner
              Mkvenner
              August 18, 2011 at 12:35 am | #

              I think that was of annoyed than bothered.

          • bramble
            bramble
            August 18, 2011 at 2:06 pm | #

            what, you think she’s built up a resistance? I’d say that every time she has to interact with Joe, it chips away at her soul a little more – she put up with him in highschool for Danny’s sake, but like many women who do not want to have sex with Joe, she’s got a limited tolerance for his behavior.

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        August 18, 2011 at 12:27 am | #

        If that was the case, then Joe needs to fix her again…

        • Tristan J
          Tristan J
          August 18, 2011 at 12:29 am | #

          With his hammer.

          His fists are not the hammer.

          • Kernanator
            Kernanator
            August 18, 2011 at 12:33 am | #

            So no percussive maintenance?

            • Plasma Mongoose
              Plasma Mongoose
              August 18, 2011 at 12:39 am | #

              I wouldn’t say that, a certain type of ‘pounding’ may be in order. 😀

              • Mkvenner
                Mkvenner
                August 18, 2011 at 1:06 am | #

                I’m going to have ask you to stop right there.

                • Plasma Mongoose
                  Plasma Mongoose
                  August 18, 2011 at 1:29 am | #

                  Only if you usen the safety word.

                • Kernanator
                  Kernanator
                  August 18, 2011 at 3:17 am | #

                  The safe word is “Femurs”.

                • Plasma Mongoose
                  Plasma Mongoose
                  August 18, 2011 at 4:09 am | #

                  That works for me. 😀

          • Sammy
            Sammy
            August 18, 2011 at 1:13 am | #

            Joe is Captain Hammer suddenly?

            • Tristan J
              Tristan J
              August 18, 2011 at 6:11 am | #

              Mostly I’m trying to find new and exciting ways to cut off predictable memes before they start.

              Granted, I used a meme from a different context, but it’s the best I could do as quickly as I could.

            • HMRC4EVR
              HMRC4EVR
              August 18, 2011 at 8:31 am | #

              Then who’s Dr. Horrible?

              And do they have a Sing Along blog?

  10. begbert2
    begbert2
    August 18, 2011 at 12:36 am | #

    It seems like most english words for unintelligent are ableist in some way, given that there didn’t used to be much of a conceptual distinction between “stupid” and “mentally handicapped”. Personally I’ll just stick with modern definitions, thanks, and consider any definition shift that’s over a century old to be grandfathered in. Which gives ‘dumb’ a free pass.

    • CP
      CP
      August 18, 2011 at 1:32 am | #

      ‘Unintelligent’ is every bit as much ableist as the rest of them. Calling someone mentally handicapped is the same as calling someone handicapped, just more specific. The real question is, why would you prefer to use words that are technically inaccurate, when accurate words are available to you? Is it somehow more insulting to call someone dumb than stupid?

      I think the concept of ableist language is ridiculous, because it’s like getting offended at someone calling you a paraplegic when you’re blind. It’s got nothing to do with you if they don’t know how to describe it if your legs are fine but your eyes don’t work.

      • begbert2
        begbert2
        August 18, 2011 at 10:48 am | #

        There’s nothing innaccurate about using the word “dumb” to mean “stupid”, since the word has held that meaning for over a hundred and fifty years. Calling the “stupid” usage “technically inaccurate” is like saying that using “fine” to mean “okay” and using “bill” to mean “legal paper” are inaccurate because “fine” means “punitive charge” and “bill” means “a duck’s mouth”. The simple fact is that lots of words have more than one meaning in English. We rely on context to tell them apart – and it’s rare for it to be unclear which you mean when you use “dumb”. (If it ever is confusing, it behooves you to use a different term in that instance.)

        And incidentally, I’ve done a little poking around on the interwebs and seen it claimed that while prior to that the word “dumb” was occasionally used in the ableist fashion of “silent = stupid” back in the 1700s, it’s modern meaning seems to have mainly been borrowed from the German word “dumm”, an thus the modern sense of “dumb” = “stupid” isn’t actually ableist at all! In which case any accusations of ableism are based on (basically) homophone/homograph trouble. Who knew, eh?

      • begbert2
        begbert2
        August 18, 2011 at 3:23 pm | #

        Oh, and “unintelligent” is explicitly not ableist, since neither it nor its base term “intelligent” are a demarcation between handicapped and non-handicapped people.

    • Random832
      Random832
      August 18, 2011 at 8:31 am | #

      “Dumb” means [rather, historically meant] mute, not mentally handicapped. You’re thinking of “idiot”.

      • LeaLeonis
        LeaLeonis
        August 18, 2011 at 8:51 am | #

        Hence the pun in the song title “Free Speech For The Dumb”.

      • Phillip Wilde
        Phillip Wilde
        August 18, 2011 at 10:44 am | #

        If we’re going to split hairs over it, you should know that the original meaning of ‘idiot’ is someone who keeps to himself and does not participate in politics, and it simply had the connotation of being stupid or uneducated based in the implication that any educated man would be interested in the workings of the polis, but over time the connotation overshadowed the actual definition.

        • JesseJanitect
          JesseJanitect
          August 18, 2011 at 11:52 am | #

          I just have to say how much I love the fact that I was expecting to see sex talk and Roz bashing and we are instead getting a linguistics discussion. Gotta love this group.

      • begbert2
        begbert2
        August 18, 2011 at 10:52 am | #

        Dumb means “stupid” and “mute”, nowadays. Neither definition is erroneous.

        (And you can’t replace it with “idiot” – that’s a different part of speech. “Idiotic”, maybe, though I consider the two words to have different shades of meaning. You have to work a little harder to be idiotic; being dumb is easy and common.)

  11. Dahlia
    Dahlia
    August 18, 2011 at 12:37 am | #

    Oh snap!

    D: Hey, roz isn’t doing this…to SPITE Robin…r-right?

    I mean…c’mon…its her SISTER….Dx;

  12. Undrave
    Undrave
    August 18, 2011 at 12:59 am | #

    That’s so demeaning! Refering to Joe as a ‘story’! HE’S A HUMAN BEING!!

  13. Jillian
    Jillian
    August 18, 2011 at 1:01 am | #

    …I get a good laugh out of most of the comics. But I get an even BETTER laugh out of the comments left bellow them.

    • Jillian
      Jillian
      August 18, 2011 at 1:02 am | #

      Below. >> -cough-

    • Mkvenner
      Mkvenner
      August 18, 2011 at 1:07 am | #

      We try.

    • Jackson
      Jackson
      August 18, 2011 at 9:51 am | #

      The comments do tend to be funnier if you bellow them.

      • Kernanator
        Kernanator
        August 18, 2011 at 4:46 pm | #

        WITH MY PENIS!!!!

        Wow, you’re right, it is funnier!

  14. Ravux
    Ravux
    August 18, 2011 at 1:10 am | #

    I shall now try to interpret Dorothy’s thoughts!….”Was that thing I ate this morning still good?”…. What? Am I off?

    • Aizat
      Aizat
      August 18, 2011 at 1:23 am | #

      I think it’s more like ” Why am I pissed off about all this? Oh right, Joe.”

      • Mkvenner
        Mkvenner
        August 18, 2011 at 1:26 am | #

        I thought it was “What the fuck just happened?” or “Did that just happen?”

        • CP
          CP
          August 18, 2011 at 1:39 am | #

          Se the way her mouth gets all small? That’s annoyance. She isn’t ticked about Joe or astonished about anything. She’s annoyed about something specific to the situation she is currently looking at.

          Also, the eye tick suggests that it’s something she already knew was going to annoy her before it happened. I’m guessing she’s directly annoyed about the subtle dig at her use of the word ‘dumb’.

          • Hitoshi
            Hitoshi
            August 18, 2011 at 2:12 am | #

            The way she is holding her hands together screams that her hands are thirsting necks.

          • iSaidCandleja-
            iSaidCandleja-
            August 18, 2011 at 2:22 am | #

            I thought the mouth suggested stunned silence while the eyebrow was simply raised in curiosity. Kind of like in The Dark Knight when Joker crashed a party and an old mine said nobody was scared.

            • Loki
              Loki
              August 18, 2011 at 10:00 am | #

              Yeah, it looks more like confusion to me. Pursing one’s lips and tilting one’s eyebrows often indicates confusion/puzzlement.

        • artemi
          artemi
          August 18, 2011 at 3:50 am | #

          I agree. That is clearly a ‘…what!?’ eyetick.

          I would imagine her next expression would a be a narrowed eyed, ‘I see what you did there’ look, followed by a growl of annoyance or a sigh of giving up.

  15. RayBarrington
    RayBarrington
    August 18, 2011 at 2:38 am | #

    “Call me Dottie and you die.”
    – Dot Warner, Animaniacs.

    • JesseJanitect
      JesseJanitect
      August 18, 2011 at 11:55 am | #

      My name is Princess Angelina Contesa Louisa Fancesca Banana-Fanna Bo Besca the Third.

  16. Wix
    Wix
    August 18, 2011 at 3:59 am | #

    Damn… I love that Roz prefers the truth to flattery. It honestly means that she prefers hearing the truth about herself instead of ‘flattery’ or ‘flaming’. If I wasn’t in love with the bow ties already, I’d fall in love with Roz for that alone.

    But again, the bow ties own my heart, because bow ties are cool.

    • Aizat
      Aizat
      August 18, 2011 at 8:27 am | #

      And so are fezzes.

      • HMRC4EVR
        HMRC4EVR
        August 18, 2011 at 8:33 am | #

        Yes, but I’m sure Sal in this universe would pull out a gun and shoot any random Fez cause that’s just how she rolls.

        • JesseJanitect
          JesseJanitect
          August 18, 2011 at 11:56 am | #

          Especially because Walky is the person most likely to wear a fez.

  17. espanolbot
    espanolbot
    August 18, 2011 at 6:55 am | #

    Okay, how many people think that she did to just to mess with Robin?

    • begbert2
      begbert2
      August 18, 2011 at 3:18 pm | #

      I think she had sex with Joe because she wanted to have sex. You don’t volunteer to wear a condom hat without having some pretty firm views on sexual liberation, which would seem to go hand in hand with being of the mind that your own genitals are there for you to use.

  18. Arkadi
    Arkadi
    August 18, 2011 at 7:46 am | #

    Mmmmmm…

  19. LeaLeonis
    LeaLeonis
    August 18, 2011 at 8:57 am | #

    If Dorothy’s close to telling Roz what she wants to hear, does this mean she gets free sex from her? Just in theory. Not shipping or anything.

    • HMRC4EVR
      HMRC4EVR
      August 18, 2011 at 6:45 pm | #

      I think Roz’s door swings both ways. As long as it’s fun and consentual between adults doesn’t matter who gets her off.

      Not saying she’s a slut mind you; but there is a fine line between that and just being ‘free spirited’.

  20. Zem
    Zem
    August 18, 2011 at 10:02 am | #

    Phuh. Mind games.

    Personally I think she’s just BSing.

    • Zem
      Zem
      August 18, 2011 at 4:29 pm | #

      On a second read, it seems that Dorothy is the jerk? She called her out just to tell her she doesn’t like having to write a story about her? First read I though she was trying to go somewhere with it, like “I don’t like it, you don’t like it but let’s both make the most of it” and showing frustration ‘d be justified if that’s the feeling she was trying to convey, but maybe she was just agitating her on purpose?

  21. Shifty
    Shifty
    August 18, 2011 at 7:54 pm | #

    I’m confused. Roz’s response seems to imply that she think the big deal everyone is making about her and Joe having sex is a not a big deal. And considering her she’s all about Female Sexual empowerment (the condom hat…), that opinion would make sense. After all, sex isn’t really a big deal to the people who it doesn’t directly affect.

    Buuuut… She went to the effort of putting the video online and getting a lot of attention for it, which implies she wants people to see it as a big deal.

    So… I’m not sure what she’s aiming for. I mean, it feels a little beneath her to do this just to screw with Robin. Especially if the Robin in this universe is anything like the Robin in the Shortpacked Universe. After all, that Robin made a major aspect of her campaign two gay boys making out all lickity-style.

    • Maycroft
      Maycroft
      January 20, 2012 at 5:31 pm | #

      I think she’s just messing with Dorothy’s head to gain more attention, or her attention.

    • Notebooked
      Notebooked
      January 24, 2013 at 3:44 am | #

      She could be posting the video online to make a big deal out of the ensuing discussion. As in “this video doesn’t affect you, why are you talking about it”.

  22. Jenny Creed
    Jenny Creed
    June 3, 2013 at 4:14 pm | #

    So, no jokes about Dorothy going to Roz?

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