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There’s just some days Ana doesn’t post early, and then doesn’t end up posting at all, making us all worry and concerned, but I’m sure Ana’s okay. They always end up okay. They were here yesterday, nothing could have happened. We’ll see them when they’re not busy.
I would rather have an honest professor who has an attitude problem towards idiots but is straightforward in his teaching than a laidback professor who acts fun but doesn’t teach that well. I’ve had both and I prefer no f(*&s given professor over the nice guy professor
Thanks zee – I was gonna say that very thing.
And now I will anyway. For reasons of personal amusement.
Ahem.
@Blindness: It is entirely possible that he is endangering his grandkids in his off hours. We really have no evidence either way. More research is clearly required.
This sort of thing is why I randomly determine the lab groups, and reroll them several times a semester (so if there’s a Joyce, no one gets stuck with ’em the whole term).
Been a while, but my standard isn’t finding someone who does their half. Never been that lucky. My standard is finding someone that doesn’t ACTIVELY make my job harder.
Holy crap, I just realized I have about the same standards for coworkers that I did for lab partners. And about the same level of success…
There is, in fact, no empirical way of determining what classes Walky is or isn’t taking at any given time, until he flunks out of college and collapses the waveform.
Lots of colleges have a general science requirement that can be fulfilled by a multitude of offered courses ( I was able to take online courses from my local community college and get them to count for my uni) so he may be taking another class. Or he was able to test out of it by taking a certain number of science classes in high school or did well on an AP course.
Can confirm! And they can be pretty easygoing about what counts as STEM class. IIRC I covered some of my science/math credit requirements with a philosophy class. (Logic. I loved it in the parts of my souls that loved trig proofs.)
Walky’s a telecom major, he’s probably taking the 101 level science class or filling the credit requirement with something else. Dina and Joyce probably need this class as a prerequisite for their majors, Becky’s here for minor/double-major credits, and Joe’s here because plot.
(I was in telecom, and didn’t have to take biology. Got plenty of math classes though, Walky’s screwed once he gets to calculus.)
Is she two?
Because I was trying to feed a 20 month old earlier.
Her success rate is about 20%, mine is currently 60% (at getting food into her mouth).
he’s pretty much the kind of person who would call her on her attitude about science and theories being shoved down the throats of others…so he’d clash with her which she would hate
Who’s the physicist here? Prof. Brock is teaching biology, which is Dina’s interest.
It’s certainly possible we’ll see some conflict here, but there’s no real evidence for it yet. Or even for which of Dina’s beliefs you think need challenging.
maybe her unyielding sticking to how things should look regarding dinosaurs instead of accepting that theories might be wrong and they might not be like she believes?
I think if she saw actual scientific evidence that dinosaurs weren’t how she believed / scientists used to think, she’d change her mind. Her intransigence is directed at the statements of people who don’t bother to learn the science, or distort it deliberately.
Yeah, it’s not her that “believes” many prehistoric dinosaurs to be feathered, for instance; the evidence is pretty overwhelming at this point, with everything from marks in Velociraptor arm bones to many being preserved with fossilized feathers (in a few cases, we even know what color or colors they were). A couple of years ago, they even found an actual dinosaur tail, feathers and all, trapped in amber. That’s not a “belief”, that’s fact.
I’d be interested in hearing her current stance on Spinosaurus, given the recent publication about its tail and the subsequent ‘no it was a wader’ paper. That argument’s gonna last for a while yet. (My personal opinion is ‘don’t get too attached to anything Spinosaurus, but the January 2020 paper overlooks some other details so I’m currently leaning more towards crocodilian-style ambush predator while expecting further bombshells soon enough.’)
The recent “debunking” conversation was interesting because of how detached/jaded Joyce was and how riled-up it got Dina! I want to see more of that.
Also, if Dina gets this angry about being “implicated in Sarah’s wizardry” (which is, let’s face it, a patently absurd level of anti-superstition), I have trouble seeing how she reconciles Becky’s clearly-still-strong Christianity.
I think we will definitely be seeing more tension with Dina, but I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s interpersonal (with, as suggested, Becky) and not necessarily this guy. She seems perfectly happy in this strip, so it could be she’s reading it as the ‘life is in some ways an arbitrary distinction and there is no hierarchy with humans on top’ a lot of people were taking it as yesterday and not as nihilism. (And given her interest in paleontology, ‘evolution is not a straight line and we are not the best’ is a sentiment I would fully expect from her.)
Now, if he’s a terrible teacher IN GENERAL and not just in the dropping this one bombshell to start off the class, I could absolutely see her hating him for being ineffective and/or reductive. But so far we’ve seen more snapping about the magic thing than Doc Brock. I’m game for an exploration of Dina’s own snappiness and ability to hold grudges as flaws.
Oh, I’m pretty excited for this arc! I like how Joe and Joyce interact, and I’m kinda wondering if they might start getting along well enough to unpack some divorce support tips together?
I’m shipping them now. I feel like they could complement each other very well as Joyce adjusts to her new worldview with less stigma around romantic relationships and Joe adjusts to viewing women as real people worth getting to know, not just sex objects.
I think he actually gives a fuck – at least, has certain strong opinions – but has to deal with too much bullshit he can’t handle so acts out both being evil _and_ not giving a fuck as a defense mechanism.
He’s a typical college professor in a low-level class: same BS each semester, same kinds of students, same issues…he grew numb to their problems and tells them right away that he won’t let them be idiots in class
My low level class profs were always super super nice, but I’m sure it must be aggravating to deal with certain types you get all the time (like Creationists in bio).
Better to have interesting teachers than boring ones. I have no idea if Robin will actually be a good teacher of political science, but I suspect Not Doc Brown will be a pretty good science teacher.
Robin will definitely teach her students a lot, and everything will be useful for understanding or working in politics. It just probably won’t be the things on the course’s curriculum.
I like how Joe’s just “resigned” himself to having Joyce as a partner even though there are probably still other available people in the room. It reminded me of his conversation with Jacob in the previous semester about how she was going to continue growing and becoming better.
A long, long time ago, I seem to recall reading a sci-fi short story in ALIENS constructed the Earth and seeded the strata with dinosaur bones and other fossils to artificially age their creation.
Douglas Adams had something of the sort in the Hitch-Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. Golgafrinchams built Earth on commission from the white mice, and placed the fake fossils. They were preparing to do it again towards the end of the first series, but the mice cancelled.
That reminds me of that one strange novel by Terry Pratchett… (spoilers ahead) Where people creating planets for future colonists enjoyed putting in little “easter eggs” in their creations to confuse future scientists, like a dinosaur skeleton with a sign protesting nuclear power. And then they discovered an impossible flat planet on the back of a turtle, and eventually came to the realization that the planet was the equivalent of their own practical jokes, their universe having been created just like the planets they were seeding.
So does Joyce pretend to hate Joe more than she actually does because she thinks it’s expected of her? Or is this an actual reflection of her feelings?
She doesn’t hate him. Unless something changed over break, they are at loggerheads sometimes, but she also crashed with him at Becky’s party and didn’t seem weirded out by that or anything. He’s also the friend she’s gone to about parent shit in the past, so I could see her doing that during the divorce.
I know Joe’s going for a sexy five o clock shadow vibe but his whole look right now looks more like “I woke up late and put on the first thing I saw before running here”
Doc speaks the truth: he’s heard it all before, so save the jokes and get down to business. They have months to get things done, but they have to start right away to have time to actually do it right
And Penny as far as we know didn’t antagonize her students. She antagonized Jason, but that’s fine since they were fellow TAs, and she SCREWED her students, which is terrible but different from antagonizing. (If that sounds like damning with faint praise… it’s Penny, so.)
I’m counting the tutoring sessions here, where he was absolutely AWFUL to both Sal and Walky (and… jesus fuck, I just tag trawled, actually hit on Sal their first interaction too while acknowledging that was against TA ethics, not to mention the thugs and hoodlums line,) since that was in the context of his teaching duties. ‘You’re absolutely hopeless’ in response to a quiz score is… well, if he didn’t realize that was antagonizing a student, he’s so completely failed basic social interactions I don’t know where we go from there.
I agree he was awful as a TA, even without the sexing, but I still wish he’d stayed in that role. I’d have liked to see him struggle with and try to get better, rather than just swap over to bartender and mostly vanish.
I get that he’s a minor character, but it seemed like he had about a half a character arc and it just got torpedo’d.
Could be we see more of him now that Blaine’s not eating strip time with his Plotting. (The firing and Do List leak were around the point he started ramping up, and between that, the Mike/Ethan plotline, and Amber’s worsening mental health which has been out of focus since the timeskip, a lot of other subplots got backburnered. Joe, for example.) I’d certainly like to see more of the Galasso’s cast.
I’m not particularly bummed, but then I didn’t care that much for Jason to begin with and his tutoring sessions with Walky weren’t really making headway for either of them. He’d realized he was a shitty teacher but didn’t appear to be making much effort to fix one of the biggest problems (that he doesn’t know how to teach people who don’t learn the same way he does,) and Walky was only barely trying. (Though how much of that was because Jason wasn’t making a strong effort in reaching out and thus generating a negative feedback loop… *shrug*) I think he would’ve needed to interact with another character to really progress past that wall. Could’ve been interesting, but we’ve got a lot of characters to juggle as well and I’m less invested in him than, say, Jocelyne.
I believe there is at least one other differential between this prof and Doc Brown: You can see the whites of Doc Brown’s eyes. Contrast the people in panel 3 with the closeup in panel 2.
I just got that jerk too…I don’t even know if I tried this one yet, I’m getting all the bad today. First Danny, then Lucy (not bad, just not a fan), then Sal (Really want Sarah back), then Malaya (NO), then the doc. I am desperate.
Does she though? She’s been all about science being rad and wanting to become a scientist since she met Dina. De-radicalization comes in many flavours, it seems that while Joyce dropped the god part before she had the courage to examine her creationist education, Becky went hard for science without losing her entire faith, most conspicuously the sexual purity part of it.
She got mad at Sarah specifically for attributing her unreasonable happiness to magic and especially for dragging her into it as well. This is more like tricking someone into a church ceremony than to just believing yourself.
What thejeff said, and i think we’ve yet to see Dina get worked up over people for believing in a non-interventionist god, as opposed to believing in the absence of a god. Both propositions are equally untestable, as she would know.
Then again teenagers are not necessarily that subtle, so we’ll see
Did you just completely erase from your mind that these two bonded over becky ASKING dina to deprogram her regarding all the fake science she was taught as a child? You can be a christian -a devout one even- without being anti science.
I’m kinda hoping Joyce no longer believes that Satan put dinosaur bones in the ground to trick us. That would be a weird thing for an atheist to believe, even if she’s only been an atheist for a few months.
I’m not sure how being lab partnered with a fundie is such a terrible thing to happen to you. I would personally be so curious as to how they would deal with an evolution 101 and i would gladly take a front seat. (Maybe thats cause i have equal love for biology and sociology.) Also Joyce is nice and smart and I think studies decently hard. So how is this a bad situation for Joe? Maybe he’s just pulling her leg.
While it might be interesting from that sociological perspective, they’re also likely to have lots of completely wrong ideas about the material that you’ll be stuck helping them work through in time you could be using to learn the new stuff yourself.
eh, i guess. then again if being a good student is in fact Joe’s priority here, my experience is that far and away the best way to become proficient in a subject is to have to teach it to someone else. But sure, i see your point
Doing a group assignment solo tends to be a frustrating amount of work, because group projects are designed for you to split the load. (Particularly frustrating when you have a partner and they’re not pulling their weight, but I had a professor for an online class once who gave us extremely long review worksheets – think ‘eight pages of questions’ if I’m remembering right – that she suggested we find partners for. Again, ONLINE class. It was exhaustingly tedious.)
Teaching it to someone else is even worse in the time and effort expended department. Joe probably has three other classes to do work for, carrying group assignments or teaching Joyce are both way more trouble than he’d have time for.
It might be interesting to watch, but not interesting to be actively involved with. Making sure you sit next to Joe and Joyce to see how it goes? Sure. Be Joe in that situation? Maybe less so.
I mean, Joe’s good. He’s got some misogynism, but not the kind that would leave Joyce doing all the work. He’ll do his fair share. They’ll bicker, but they were already doing that.
Sure, but Joe is still Joe. There may have been a falling out during the break, but I always thought they were fine being honest with each other because they also were clear on their boundaries. Which this may be crossing, albeit not by design.
Poor Joe. This looks really like the beginning of an awkward and complicated collaboration. It’s really impossible to have group of three and put Joyce with Becky and Dina? So Joyce could feel the joy to be the third wheel♡! But sadly, that’s improbable. Let’s see the what will happens with the dangerous combination of this two. Maybe, this will be like Luann and Jack being Lab partners and be a good thing.
Joyce glances around forlornly, sighs in disgust, gets up, stomps halfway across the classroom, pulls another student out of his seat, and with a louder sigh of disgust, sits down next to Joe.
Oh please please PLEASE let this mean we’re getting a repeat of the BCE Roomies! strip, but with Joe not giving DannyJoyce a sympathetic reception because come on, he’s Jewish, why would he ever.
I mean, I have no idea if BCE/CE is still in academic use, but Joe might use it as a matter of habit? I know that’s how historical dates were presented to us in Hebrew school back in the day.
Probably depends on the field/context/audience, but one folklorist I know uses CE/BCE in her facebook posts out of habit still, because AD/BC feels really weird when specifically talking about and studying various cultures across the world in their historical context.
Cops are overgrown children cosplaying War, with all the rest of us forced into their stupid, childish game without our consent, consuming vast funds from the public treasury and ruining lives by the hundreds of thousands.
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I cannot get over these cops wearing night vision to arrest a dude on a Southwest Airlines flight in broad daylight.
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Anyway, I haven't been here because I've been yelling IS THIS A TURKEY at everything. You should try it
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Jonathan Joss being shot outside his home while protecting his husband after being sent a threatening and distressing package is WHY we need Pride
It's 2025 and people are still being shot and killed for being queer
This is why we march and why we fight
the thing about white liberal Americans is that they'll argue to accept bigots into their tent before accepting the bigots' targets.
the targets that have been on the same side as white liberals from the jump.
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Wait, was this actually posted… early? Am I the *first poster*!?
Also: I’m with you, Joe. SO MUCH.
Yes, no
You were beaten but technically you are the first comment that isn’t saying “First.”
Okay so that makes them the first poster.
Yeah, it’s been awhile since Willis has had to enforce the No “First!’ Posts Rule, hasn’t it? Ana has both spoiled us and saved us from those evils.
What happened to Ana?
There’s just some days Ana doesn’t post early, and then doesn’t end up posting at all, making us all worry and concerned, but I’m sure Ana’s okay. They always end up okay. They were here yesterday, nothing could have happened. We’ll see them when they’re not busy.
If Ana weren’t okay, I’m sure she would tell us.
It’s ok Joe, the only way this could go wrong was if you were in a comedy/slice of life comic strip or something…
In other news, this professor seems like he’ll be interesting, if not benevolent.
Oh hell no, I just now realized I’m Joe, let us fix that
Better but what are my other options?
Awwwww yeah, Carla! This pleases me greatly.
And it pleases Carla as well.
I messed around with mine for a while and when I got fuckface I decided I was satisfied
OH NO IT’S DIFFERENT
You know what though I’m still okay with it
Lets see if i can get julia grey again
Okay i’m fuckface, that’s epic.
Hey, Casi, how’d you capitalize to get Fuckface?
I wonder if mine’s the same after all this time.
Curses, I forgot I had set mine custom.
No nonsense, give no f##ks guy…he might actually be a decent professor if there’s no more idiocy around one of the fundies
IDK, I don’t think Doc Brown is benevolent. I see him more as chaotic neutral.
Well, least he’s honest.
I would rather have an honest professor who has an attitude problem towards idiots but is straightforward in his teaching than a laidback professor who acts fun but doesn’t teach that well. I’ve had both and I prefer no f(*&s given professor over the nice guy professor
The problems start when the prof’s definition of ‘idiot’ is over-broad.
Biology: Where Organism Repeats Itself.
Joe: Where History Repeats Itself.
So… He’s Rick Sanchez
without the abusing and nearly killing your grandkid…
There’s a whole lot of room on the spectrum between Doc Brown and Rick.
Rolling in, pissing people off, then giving them busy work is a move that puts him a bit closer to the Rick end of that spectrum though.
Nah, that’s just tenure.
or the perpetual state of drunkenness
We don’t know what he does in his personal life
Oh i miss Joyce but this lol make the booster love thread more apt lol
Thanks zee – I was gonna say that very thing.
And now I will anyway. For reasons of personal amusement.
Ahem.
@Blindness: It is entirely possible that he is endangering his grandkids in his off hours. We really have no evidence either way. More research is clearly required.
Actually, Rick’s killed Morty several times. He just has him cloned with a full memory restore.
This sort of thing is why I randomly determine the lab groups, and reroll them several times a semester (so if there’s a Joyce, no one gets stuck with ’em the whole term).
So you too are a benevolent scientist.
Christ yes benevolent teaching scientist thank you.
That, or a scientist that prefers data sets drawn from multiple trials.
Joyce might be a fine lab partner, you don’t know. At least she’ll do her half of the work, which can be a high bar to clear.
Been a while, but my standard isn’t finding someone who does their half. Never been that lucky. My standard is finding someone that doesn’t ACTIVELY make my job harder.
Holy crap, I just realized I have about the same standards for coworkers that I did for lab partners. And about the same level of success…
and spouses!
I mean, fair, but at the same time, she put up with YOU in gender studies so.
Season 2 of the search for Sal continues!
And y’all get a two parter because I wanna be a person!
Three parter apparently.
That was pretty funny. What were the chances?
I don’t know but amazing.
How did you roll Fuckface?
Nope.
So much Joe hate here!
I honestly don’t mind Joe, I just don’t feel any real connection to him as a character.
Someone like Asher, on the other hand, gets under my skin.
Oh hey, I finally found Dina again! Just need to unlock Fuckface, and I can switch between the best two!
The chances? There are currently 25 avatars in my collection. There is no Ethan. There will be another grav shuffle when he returns.
Grav buddies!
Yay!
Very True … not that her preconceptions about gender were much better.
she swapped him for Dorothy immediately when they were tasked to work together
Oh man, I so hope Joyce says something similar before this conversation ends.
Let’s see who I get today!
Uhm…eh?
This is acceptable for today!
This … was inevitable. But I’m pretty surprised Walky is not also in this course.
He probably is and cut the class.
There is, in fact, no empirical way of determining what classes Walky is or isn’t taking at any given time, until he flunks out of college and collapses the waveform.
He’s Schrödinger’s Dumbass.
yaaaaaaaaaaas Schrödinger’s Dumbass xD
Lots of colleges have a general science requirement that can be fulfilled by a multitude of offered courses ( I was able to take online courses from my local community college and get them to count for my uni) so he may be taking another class. Or he was able to test out of it by taking a certain number of science classes in high school or did well on an AP course.
Can confirm! And they can be pretty easygoing about what counts as STEM class. IIRC I covered some of my science/math credit requirements with a philosophy class. (Logic. I loved it in the parts of my souls that loved trig proofs.)
Walky’s a telecom major, he’s probably taking the 101 level science class or filling the credit requirement with something else. Dina and Joyce probably need this class as a prerequisite for their majors, Becky’s here for minor/double-major credits, and Joe’s here because plot.
(I was in telecom, and didn’t have to take biology. Got plenty of math classes though, Walky’s screwed once he gets to calculus.)
I made this comment primarily because I thought Willis wouldn’t resist pairing Walky and Professor Doc back together.
He’s got a point.
Haha! Holy shit i got the best icon for this.
Ahem,
‘Hello. Joe here…I have a point’
Nice
If you want to waste some empty hours, go to TVtropes and look up ‘Dumbass has a point’.
NO.
Not until the long weekend.
So… Valentines day. XD
Joe’s undeclared right? I was wondering what combination of subjects would land him here.
He’d probably hide his actual interest behind a joke about anatomy.
To walk in his father’s footsteps and become a podiatrist?
I believe that Richard’s specialty is “bone doctor, oy oy”.
He is. I was more thinking of going into a medical profession in general.
Osteologist, and yes.
Yes! The two best, most interesting, well rounded characters together at last!
Black hair red hoodie glasses person and blonde hair blue jacket person.
They truly have had the most significant character arcs!
There’s some def chemistry going on in Panel 3. And I don’t mean the main chars in the background.
As my niece so succinctly puts it: no, no, no, no, no, no, no!
Is she two?
Because I was trying to feed a 20 month old earlier.
Her success rate is about 20%, mine is currently 60% (at getting food into her mouth).
I admit, I am very excited about Dina hating this class and having her beliefs challenged.
Why would Dina hate a science class?
he’s pretty much the kind of person who would call her on her attitude about science and theories being shoved down the throats of others…so he’d clash with her which she would hate
what beliefs would she have challenged?
Bio-centrism. Physicists and Biologists clash all the time.
Just because you believe in science, doesn’t mean you agree how it’s applied. I say this as someone who works at a university.
Who’s the physicist here? Prof. Brock is teaching biology, which is Dina’s interest.
It’s certainly possible we’ll see some conflict here, but there’s no real evidence for it yet. Or even for which of Dina’s beliefs you think need challenging.
Yes, but he took an anti-biology stance in the previous comic.
Did he?
Is there any reason to think that Dina has inaccurate beliefs about Biology? Did you mean Joyce?
And if you did mean Dina and there is something she’s wrong about, wouldn’t she accept a well reasoned, scientific argument?
maybe her unyielding sticking to how things should look regarding dinosaurs instead of accepting that theories might be wrong and they might not be like she believes?
I think if she saw actual scientific evidence that dinosaurs weren’t how she believed / scientists used to think, she’d change her mind. Her intransigence is directed at the statements of people who don’t bother to learn the science, or distort it deliberately.
Yeah, it’s not her that “believes” many prehistoric dinosaurs to be feathered, for instance; the evidence is pretty overwhelming at this point, with everything from marks in Velociraptor arm bones to many being preserved with fossilized feathers (in a few cases, we even know what color or colors they were). A couple of years ago, they even found an actual dinosaur tail, feathers and all, trapped in amber. That’s not a “belief”, that’s fact.
I’d be interested in hearing her current stance on Spinosaurus, given the recent publication about its tail and the subsequent ‘no it was a wader’ paper. That argument’s gonna last for a while yet. (My personal opinion is ‘don’t get too attached to anything Spinosaurus, but the January 2020 paper overlooks some other details so I’m currently leaning more towards crocodilian-style ambush predator while expecting further bombshells soon enough.’)
Frankly, Joyce being challenged is a strawman that’s not funny anymore just sad.
No, I’d like to see Dina have her views challenged and it’s about time. College is about learning.
If you had any experience with yoing earth creationists, you know very well that Joyce is the accurate portrayal of one
That doesn’t mean it isn’t getting worn out.
The recent “debunking” conversation was interesting because of how detached/jaded Joyce was and how riled-up it got Dina! I want to see more of that.
Also, if Dina gets this angry about being “implicated in Sarah’s wizardry” (which is, let’s face it, a patently absurd level of anti-superstition), I have trouble seeing how she reconciles Becky’s clearly-still-strong Christianity.
that awkward moment when you realize an entire demographic has become an overused trope IRL
I think we will definitely be seeing more tension with Dina, but I wouldn’t be shocked if it’s interpersonal (with, as suggested, Becky) and not necessarily this guy. She seems perfectly happy in this strip, so it could be she’s reading it as the ‘life is in some ways an arbitrary distinction and there is no hierarchy with humans on top’ a lot of people were taking it as yesterday and not as nihilism. (And given her interest in paleontology, ‘evolution is not a straight line and we are not the best’ is a sentiment I would fully expect from her.)
Now, if he’s a terrible teacher IN GENERAL and not just in the dropping this one bombshell to start off the class, I could absolutely see her hating him for being ineffective and/or reductive. But so far we’ve seen more snapping about the magic thing than Doc Brock. I’m game for an exploration of Dina’s own snappiness and ability to hold grudges as flaws.
Yeah, dinosaurs were obviously the peak of evolution, not us.
“Evolution doesn’t have levels!”
“Lies!”
Notice how Joe does not flee from getting paired with Joyce when pressed.
This is because they are in love and destined to be together and already married.
This makes me laugh so much, and is what I came to say, but better!
Yep!
JoJo(?) shippers are out here playing the long game.
JoJo’s Bizarre Adventures
If only we could track down the handsome genius who first came up with that ship name.
I wonder where he is now.
Okay if that was you, then handsome genius is accurate, well done! I actually remember when people first said it here, just not who.
I’m pretty sure it was me yeah but the important thing is that I take credit for it.
We are a patient bunch.
We really are.
NANI!?!
Yes, I know this joke was made by someone else yesterday, but fuck it.
Yare yare daze.
brb, subscribing to Spencer’s newsletter
Wait do they post Joe/Joyce stuff? Where may I find that?
They could both do worse. (And Joe has.)
I am so okay with this. Joe and Joyce are good for each other, in the end. (Avatar roulette GO)
I’m with Joe on this one, he might be an ass but no one deserves Joyce as a lab partner
Oh hey, I got Doc Brock
She’s about the worst to get even if she might be smarter than the average person…
You have the perfect avatar for this comment
So it’s Doctor Arkeville?
The fourth panel is so cute here, I love it!!!
That really is a great facial expression!
For once, Joe has a point
Joe is gonna partner with Rachel.
Oh, I’m pretty excited for this arc! I like how Joe and Joyce interact, and I’m kinda wondering if they might start getting along well enough to unpack some divorce support tips together?
I worded that awkwardly. I meant tips for how to deal with your parents divorce.
I’m shipping them now. I feel like they could complement each other very well as Joyce adjusts to her new worldview with less stigma around romantic relationships and Joe adjusts to viewing women as real people worth getting to know, not just sex objects.
Either that or it will be a total dumpster fire as they try to push each other too much too fast. It will be interesting either way
You sure about the shippin’? Your name says otherwise :V
I didn’t even know there was a rule against ‘first’ anymore. Sorry. Also, I welcome Joe and Joyce back together again!
So is not Doc Brown evil or not caring.
I think he actually gives a fuck – at least, has certain strong opinions – but has to deal with too much bullshit he can’t handle so acts out both being evil _and_ not giving a fuck as a defense mechanism.
He’s a typical college professor in a low-level class: same BS each semester, same kinds of students, same issues…he grew numb to their problems and tells them right away that he won’t let them be idiots in class
My low level class profs were always super super nice, but I’m sure it must be aggravating to deal with certain types you get all the time (like Creationists in bio).
*plays Oingo Boingo’s theme from the movie WEIRD SCIENCE on the hacked Muzak*
Aha! Thank you. I was wondering what would go with today’s comic.
*casually slips the LP for Huey Lewis’ “Power of Love” into the next slot on Stephen’s playlist*
God, I missed Joe and his dynamic with Joyce so much.
Yeah, there’s a lot of unexplored territory between them (ifyaknowwhati’msayin hurp durp).
Me, Joe’s Lawyer: Joe, you aren’t legally obligated to partner up with the first person to make eye contact with you.
Joe: *reveals the DoA Moderate Character Contract he signed before the series began*
Me: *reads*
Me: Well, shit.
Do they have to practice their landing strategies?
Joe: “By no means does this make us friends.”
I genuinely enjoy how you all just devolved directly into RWBY references.
*erases the first ‘d’ from ‘devolved’* Fixed that for you.
“There’s one important distinction between us. Doctor Emmet Brown is a benevolent scientist.”
This fucking guy
Between him and Professor Robin, they’ve effectively turned the cast’s curriculum into a fucking Galasso’s subsidiary.
Thus unfolds the next phase of Galasso’s agenda of conquest. First, pizza (and subs). Now, IU. Tomorrow, the world!
It’s good to have more interesting teachers. Previously you just had Leslie really, and while she’s the best bean it’s good to get some variety
Well, we had Amber’s Intro To CS teacher that switched genders halfway through last semester…
Better to have interesting teachers than boring ones. I have no idea if Robin will actually be a good teacher of political science, but I suspect Not Doc Brown will be a pretty good science teacher.
Robin will definitely teach her students a lot, and everything will be useful for understanding or working in politics. It just probably won’t be the things on the course’s curriculum.
So does this imply Professor Brock knows he’s fictional (or just not alive, because nothing is alive)?
So yeah, tenured, has to teach 100 level classes and hates it, has zero fucks to give.
But eee, Joe/Joyce interactions once more! (My I-Actually-Think-This-One’s-Plausible Joyce OTP.)
I like how Joe’s just “resigned” himself to having Joyce as a partner even though there are probably still other available people in the room. It reminded me of his conversation with Jacob in the previous semester about how she was going to continue growing and becoming better.
He knows he’s part of the cast. He cannot escape to pair with a rando, only with named characters.
A long, long time ago, I seem to recall reading a sci-fi short story in ALIENS constructed the Earth and seeded the strata with dinosaur bones and other fossils to artificially age their creation.
Douglas Adams had something of the sort in the Hitch-Hiker’s Guide to the Galaxy. Golgafrinchams built Earth on commission from the white mice, and placed the fake fossils. They were preparing to do it again towards the end of the first series, but the mice cancelled.
That reminds me of that one strange novel by Terry Pratchett… (spoilers ahead) Where people creating planets for future colonists enjoyed putting in little “easter eggs” in their creations to confuse future scientists, like a dinosaur skeleton with a sign protesting nuclear power. And then they discovered an impossible flat planet on the back of a turtle, and eventually came to the realization that the planet was the equivalent of their own practical jokes, their universe having been created just like the planets they were seeding.
Strata! It reads like a weird sort of zeroth draft for Discworld in a way
(though it’s more properly a riff on BDO novels like Ringworld and Rendezvous with Rama)
Once we develop the technology, you know that’s going to happen.
Humans just can’t help but hide little inside jokes in our work. Just look up Moon Museum and the “diagrams” in some of the Apollo EVA workbooks.
And on microchips. That you can’t even see without an electron microscope.
“Dunno, there’s other folks here.”
What, is Joyce Dotty to you now that you can be with your girlfriend?
/joking
Is Dorothy even in the class?
if somebody in-strip says he looks like rick rickandmorty i will lose my mind (not sayng this negatively at all)
Or they start calling him “Professor Plum”.
(The students are too young to reference “Reverend Jim”.)
Why must Joe look all hot and Bruce Wayne-y here?
I do like Joe and Joyce content, so I am curious where this goes.
Ooh, I get Joyce? I can dig that. Carla, Amber, now Joyce, feels nice after being Galasso for what felt like 12 years.
That ain’t Joyce Brown, that’s Julia Grey!
Perfect icon for that.
So does Joyce pretend to hate Joe more than she actually does because she thinks it’s expected of her? Or is this an actual reflection of her feelings?
She doesn’t hate him. Unless something changed over break, they are at loggerheads sometimes, but she also crashed with him at Becky’s party and didn’t seem weirded out by that or anything. He’s also the friend she’s gone to about parent shit in the past, so I could see her doing that during the divorce.
Given she seems to trust in him to the degree of emotionally confiding in him via text message, I think she’s fronting a bit.
I know Joe’s going for a sexy five o clock shadow vibe but his whole look right now looks more like “I woke up late and put on the first thing I saw before running here”
It’s entirely plausible that he did wake up late and wore the first thing he saw.
He’s even been called out on it by Booster, so who knows. Maybe he just doesn’t like shaving.
Doc speaks the truth: he’s heard it all before, so save the jokes and get down to business. They have months to get things done, but they have to start right away to have time to actually do it right
And he’s doubtless been hearing it for decades.
Seriously, would any of these kids have actually seen that film enough for them to still be commenting on the resemblance?
And now he’s hearing rumblings about this “Rick” guy, but he hasn’t bothered to find out who that is.
People see movies older than they are all the time. I’ve seen that one for crying out loud.
Sure, but at “cultural touchstone” level?
Yeah, most people get “Back to the Future” still.
Why is Leslie the only teacher at this place who doesn’t feel the need to antagonize their students?
New Alex is perfectly fine!
And Penny as far as we know didn’t antagonize her students. She antagonized Jason, but that’s fine since they were fellow TAs, and she SCREWED her students, which is terrible but different from antagonizing. (If that sounds like damning with faint praise… it’s Penny, so.)
Jason didn’t antagonize people deliberately, either. I mean, he did so because he was a terrible teacher, but he wasn’t TRYING to.
Honestly, I don’t think Robin was trying to, either. (Not even Roz.) She’s just…Robin.
So, that’s Professor Brock and Previous Alex who are active jerks.
I’m counting the tutoring sessions here, where he was absolutely AWFUL to both Sal and Walky (and… jesus fuck, I just tag trawled, actually hit on Sal their first interaction too while acknowledging that was against TA ethics, not to mention the thugs and hoodlums line,) since that was in the context of his teaching duties. ‘You’re absolutely hopeless’ in response to a quiz score is… well, if he didn’t realize that was antagonizing a student, he’s so completely failed basic social interactions I don’t know where we go from there.
I agree he was awful as a TA, even without the sexing, but I still wish he’d stayed in that role. I’d have liked to see him struggle with and try to get better, rather than just swap over to bartender and mostly vanish.
I get that he’s a minor character, but it seemed like he had about a half a character arc and it just got torpedo’d.
Could be we see more of him now that Blaine’s not eating strip time with his Plotting. (The firing and Do List leak were around the point he started ramping up, and between that, the Mike/Ethan plotline, and Amber’s worsening mental health which has been out of focus since the timeskip, a lot of other subplots got backburnered. Joe, for example.) I’d certainly like to see more of the Galasso’s cast.
I’m not particularly bummed, but then I didn’t care that much for Jason to begin with and his tutoring sessions with Walky weren’t really making headway for either of them. He’d realized he was a shitty teacher but didn’t appear to be making much effort to fix one of the biggest problems (that he doesn’t know how to teach people who don’t learn the same way he does,) and Walky was only barely trying. (Though how much of that was because Jason wasn’t making a strong effort in reaching out and thus generating a negative feedback loop… *shrug*) I think he would’ve needed to interact with another character to really progress past that wall. Could’ve been interesting, but we’ve got a lot of characters to juggle as well and I’m less invested in him than, say, Jocelyne.
Wait was Joe on Penny’s class?
Yep! With handcuffs.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/twelvethirty/
(PLEASE not Malaya…Friiiiick)
Because they’re freshman classes
We have the mission to break the souls of the freshman before they can get to higher levels of education.
I believe there is at least one other differential between this prof and Doc Brown: You can see the whites of Doc Brown’s eyes. Contrast the people in panel 3 with the closeup in panel 2.
‘screepy.
Is Doc
BrownBrock related to Joyce? Those baby blue eyes…What does
do?Ah, the s tag is the same as the strike tag.
Excellent, Becky & Dina and Joyce & Joe can study…biology together.
*continues to happily munch on popcorn*
You & me babe we ain’t nothing but mammals
Joe’s theme song. Or perhaps his dad’s.
FAKE NEWS!
You’re about to be paired up as a lab partner with someone who USED to believe Satan put bones in the ground to trick you.
*claps hands repeatedly*
Here we go!
Are we going to get lots of Joyce and Joe strips now? I sincerely hope so!
and so it begiiiins
Those guys in Panel 3 are definitely going to fuck, aren’t they?
Next slipshine
That “pair with them for the rest of semester” is really foreboding huh
Ok, not a fan of being this guy, let’s give this a whirl
How do you change it?
Change the capitalization in your email address, typically.
Change what letters are capped in your email.
I just got that jerk too…I don’t even know if I tried this one yet, I’m getting all the bad today. First Danny, then Lucy (not bad, just not a fan), then Sal (Really want Sarah back), then Malaya (NO), then the doc. I am desperate.
Ugh, this WAS Dan….One letter at a time for now, FRICK.
One day DYW will get tired of this and change things so you are stuck with your first grav forever.
It’s been 3 decades and I still ship it.
ahahah Joe definitely got the short straw here XD
So how long until Dina realizes that Becky holds most of if not all of the same anti-science beliefs that Joyce does?
Does she though? She’s been all about science being rad and wanting to become a scientist since she met Dina. De-radicalization comes in many flavours, it seems that while Joyce dropped the god part before she had the courage to examine her creationist education, Becky went hard for science without losing her entire faith, most conspicuously the sexual purity part of it.
Yeah but she’s still got really strong faith, which it just seems would get to Dina more than it seems to — or at all, really.
She gets mad at Sarah for being unreasonably happy without evidence, but her Explicitly Christian girlfriend gets a pass?
She got mad at Sarah specifically for attributing her unreasonable happiness to magic and especially for dragging her into it as well. This is more like tricking someone into a church ceremony than to just believing yourself.
What thejeff said, and i think we’ve yet to see Dina get worked up over people for believing in a non-interventionist god, as opposed to believing in the absence of a god. Both propositions are equally untestable, as she would know.
Then again teenagers are not necessarily that subtle, so we’ll see
Did you just completely erase from your mind that these two bonded over becky ASKING dina to deprogram her regarding all the fake science she was taught as a child? You can be a christian -a devout one even- without being anti science.
You say that like Doc Brown wasn’t collaborating with Libyan terrorists
I’m kinda hoping Joyce no longer believes that Satan put dinosaur bones in the ground to trick us. That would be a weird thing for an atheist to believe, even if she’s only been an atheist for a few months.
I’m not sure how being lab partnered with a fundie is such a terrible thing to happen to you. I would personally be so curious as to how they would deal with an evolution 101 and i would gladly take a front seat. (Maybe thats cause i have equal love for biology and sociology.) Also Joyce is nice and smart and I think studies decently hard. So how is this a bad situation for Joe? Maybe he’s just pulling her leg.
While it might be interesting from that sociological perspective, they’re also likely to have lots of completely wrong ideas about the material that you’ll be stuck helping them work through in time you could be using to learn the new stuff yourself.
eh, i guess. then again if being a good student is in fact Joe’s priority here, my experience is that far and away the best way to become proficient in a subject is to have to teach it to someone else. But sure, i see your point
Doing a group assignment solo tends to be a frustrating amount of work, because group projects are designed for you to split the load. (Particularly frustrating when you have a partner and they’re not pulling their weight, but I had a professor for an online class once who gave us extremely long review worksheets – think ‘eight pages of questions’ if I’m remembering right – that she suggested we find partners for. Again, ONLINE class. It was exhaustingly tedious.)
Teaching it to someone else is even worse in the time and effort expended department. Joe probably has three other classes to do work for, carrying group assignments or teaching Joyce are both way more trouble than he’d have time for.
It might be interesting to watch, but not interesting to be actively involved with. Making sure you sit next to Joe and Joyce to see how it goes? Sure. Be Joe in that situation? Maybe less so.
No matter what Joe says, I’m sure he could have found someone else if he actually tried
I don’t know, could still be some aftermath of his Do-List getting out.
Also, hey real talk do you folks pronounce Dina’s name Dee-na or Die-na?! I always assumed the former but suddenly I wonder
It is Dee-na.
Dina’s name is pronounced “DEE-na.”
ahahah that bad huh XD
guess i missed all of the other times this was brought up
thanks
It’s in the About/Read Before Posting thingy. Because it’s a FAQ.
/condescension
I mean, Joe’s good. He’s got some misogynism, but not the kind that would leave Joyce doing all the work. He’ll do his fair share. They’ll bicker, but they were already doing that.
Things are starting to blur together now, but wasn’t Joyce at one point carrying on lengthy text conversations with Joe anyway?
Sure, but Joe is still Joe. There may have been a falling out during the break, but I always thought they were fine being honest with each other because they also were clear on their boundaries. Which this may be crossing, albeit not by design.
Now Joe, that’s not entirely fair. Those bones might have been put in the ground by God to test our faith.
What do you mean Doc Brown is fictional, Prof Broc?
They say Doc Brown, but all I can hear is Werner Herzog.
Weird.
So, we’re not going to learn who yelled “FIRST OF ALL” yesterday?
I mean, the obvious assumption is Joyce, but I like to think Dina was totally aghast at Brock’s unscientific assertations.
Probably just some nameless student, given we don’t have followup.
I know why the prof is so upset.
He was frozen today.
+1
Poor Joe. This looks really like the beginning of an awkward and complicated collaboration. It’s really impossible to have group of three and put Joyce with Becky and Dina? So Joyce could feel the joy to be the third wheel♡! But sadly, that’s improbable. Let’s see the what will happens with the dangerous combination of this two. Maybe, this will be like Luann and Jack being Lab partners and be a good thing.
Self proclaimed evil science professor has me concerned for many reasons.
Joe has a point.
And, apparently, I have a Joe.
I like that Bio professor more and more.
yessssssss joe and joyce i am excite
Also, you both realize you can just…..pick someone else? Oh, you’re the only named characters in this class, nevermind, carry on.
Unshown Panel 4.5:
Joyce glances around forlornly, sighs in disgust, gets up, stomps halfway across the classroom, pulls another student out of his seat, and with a louder sigh of disgust, sits down next to Joe.
I made the mistake of pairing with the guy I knew already in my chem 2 class sophomore year. I wound up carrying us the entire semester.
NOW KISS!!!
So go find someone not in the tiny group of people you interact with, Joyce.
Joe has ALL the points here.
I still ship these two TBH
I thought the fictional Scientist was Dr. Wiley for some reason
I’m just wondering where the professor’s eyebrows are. Did he get a nasty shock? Or a lab accident?
idk want to be blowjob cat. Time for my first ever roulette.
Sarah’s cool, I can work with this.
GIMME BACK MY SARAH! I keep getting DANNY. >_<
*sound of students back-spacing on their document reading ‘Doc Brown?’*
*sound of students typing ‘Rick Sanchez?’*
Oh please please PLEASE let this mean we’re getting a repeat of the BCE Roomies! strip, but with Joe not giving
DannyJoyce a sympathetic reception because come on, he’s Jewish, why would he ever.I mean, I have no idea if BCE/CE is still in academic use, but Joe might use it as a matter of habit? I know that’s how historical dates were presented to us in Hebrew school back in the day.
Probably depends on the field/context/audience, but one folklorist I know uses CE/BCE in her facebook posts out of habit still, because AD/BC feels really weird when specifically talking about and studying various cultures across the world in their historical context.
I have often wondered if (from the era of It’s Walky! even) Joe and Joyce wouldn’t make a better couple.
I mean, seriously-their vices are extremely complimentary and their virtues are really very well suited to one another.
Weren’t they actually a couple in one of the alternate universes?
Professor Brock? Not Professor Doc?
How old have I gotten?
The Dorothys of the world usually use what should be being used on them.
It always been like this.
*The JOYCES of the world, not the lovely Dorothys.
Oddly, I didn’t think of Emmet Brown. His hair isn’t frizzy enough.
Who are the two folks in the foreground of the middle panel, and who is already shipping them?
I am 100% shipping them, unless they’re actually just really good friends. That’s okay too.
I came here specifically to comment that I ship them
I just made this post now thinking nobody did and all I had to do was scroll up exactly two inches.
(they look cute together)
Something about the indirect smiles. It’s nice.
And who does Dorothy end up with?
( not that that concerns me or anything )
Anyway I ship those two guys in the foreground of Panel 3.
You know… I thought that the professor looked more like Mick from Power Rangers Ninja Steel.
I’m glad Joyce and Joe are back in panel together, I love their dynamic in and out of ship.
….This is not the avatar I was hoping for on this shuffle.
Me too. I’m always down for some Joe/Joyce screeentime.
If they are not together by the end of book 15, I may scream. We’ll see. They can break up again for all I care, just fricken try again, damn it!
Well this ought to be good.
[/John Mulaney]
incorrect, god put dinosaur bones in the earth to test our faith
source: my batshit mother