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by David M Willis on January 7, 2022 at 12:01 am
  • 02 – I'll Leave You A Phantom
└ Tags: amber, joe

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  1. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    January 7, 2022 at 12:06 am | #

    In the moment it was funny. In hindsight it might’ve been an assault. In Mike is dead now memory it’s back to being funny.

    • alongcameaspider
      alongcameaspider
      January 7, 2022 at 12:08 am | #

      Oh it was definitely assault, but Mike is dead and he’s crushing hard on Joyce so there’s not much to do about it but laugh really

      • alongcameaspider
        alongcameaspider
        January 7, 2022 at 12:09 am | #

        Joe is crushing hard that is, realized that might not have been 100% clear by the way I typed it

        • Yet_One_More_Idiot
          Yet_One_More_Idiot
          January 7, 2022 at 8:08 am | #

          I think that maybe Joe’s funny story just accidentally and temporarily broke Amber. She needed an emotional release, looks like that’s it! xD

    • Laura
      Laura
      January 7, 2022 at 12:18 am | #

      I never quite understood that. I’d think it would be domestic violence, and creepy jealousy at that, the way Joyce and Mike teamed up to beat the tar out of Joe on their first date. I never understood why there are no consequences for Joyce, even when she said, “Our fists were instruments of the Lord!” (*Barf.*) Seems like she’d be more sensitive to self-righteous religiously motivated violence, and look back on her own prior actions more critically, after what she went through with Becky’s father. But when she just looked at Joe with those big puppy-dog eyes and said (words to the effect of) “But… a girl can’t REALLY hurt a boy, can she? Not really.” (Again, too lazy/inept to look up the original strip/quote.) And all is seemingly forgiven. At most, Joe demonstrated mild irritation before going back to being smitten. It’s this whole stereotype that women can’t be abusers. “Questionable Content,” by Jeph Jacques, has a similar trope: a lady punches a guy (even to the point of bruising or serious injury) and it’s a punchline. A joke. I don’t get it.

      • Laura
        Laura
        January 7, 2022 at 12:20 am | #

        …But it was sweet of Joe to share an anecdote about her friend, let Amber know she’s not alone (and that she’s not the only punchy/assaultive member of her peer group).

        • John Smith
          John Smith
          January 7, 2022 at 3:40 am | #

          I’ll be honest, that anecdote feels more like a lead up to “So anyway, Danny is right and it’s great that he’s dead.”

        • probskay
          probskay
          January 7, 2022 at 10:52 am | #

          i think it’s a bit more of a “Joe was being an objectifying creep” and “Joyce was being an unreasonable religious purist” so that both of them were being gross and wrong in that situation. there’s also a lot to be said about webcomic time, because those strips were…. so long ago lol. the violence was over the top and played mostly for jokes. Both characters have had arcs of growth where they changed alongside the tone of the comic. I think it’s very fair to be critical of those original events, but Joe did need something to help knock him out of his womanisation and Joyce is learning to be less repressed herself

          • Laura
            Laura
            January 7, 2022 at 8:45 pm | #

            How long ago has it been in comic book time, though? Is it still early Spring semester of freshman year?

      • Grimey
        Grimey
        January 7, 2022 at 12:20 am | #

        That is why I stopped reading QC to be honest. By the time I quit I remember Marten effectively reduced to little more than character development for everyone else.

        • jmsr7
          jmsr7
          January 7, 2022 at 12:42 am | #

          I have good news about QC then: Faye cuts that shit out, and the comic gets MUCH better. The Faye-bubbles arc alone is worth the price of admission.

          That said, i think Yay is my favourite character.

          • alongcameaspider
            alongcameaspider
            January 7, 2022 at 12:50 am | #

            Unfortunately Marten is even less of a character then he was before, seemly solely there to be “Claire’s boyfriend” until Jeph remembers he’s supposed to be a main character again

            • ESM
              ESM
              January 7, 2022 at 1:24 am | #

              Martin’s been vestigial to Questionable Content ever since it stopped being a love triangle, which was pretty early on. I think the only reason he hasn’t been written out altogether is because Pintsize needs a place to stay.

              • Andy
                Andy
                January 7, 2022 at 1:56 am | #

                I don’t see why it’s a problem. Stories need conflict and Marten is an easy-going dude who has a stable job and is in a stable healthy relationship. If he was the main character, he’d still be fairly ancillary to everyone else’s stuff, or it’d be a pretty boring comic. As it is, everyone else still has conflict and so the comic focuses on them, because they’re actually driving things forwards

                • Crazy Lou
                  Crazy Lou
                  January 7, 2022 at 3:13 am | #

                  I like that Marten’s moved on from the focus because it means that he’s allowed to stay the cool, chill guy that he became over time. Honestly if he wasn’t there to go “This is a thing now? Cool.” the comic’s tone would have probable gone off of one deep end or the other by now.

          • BarerMender
            BarerMender
            January 7, 2022 at 2:33 am | #

            Yes, Yay! I love her so much. I love Emily, but Yay is the queen of my heart.

            • BarerMender
              BarerMender
              January 7, 2022 at 2:35 am | #

              Oops! Love THEM so much.

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            January 7, 2022 at 2:48 am | #

            I still read it every day out of habit, but if you asked me to summarize the last couple years’ worth of plot I’d have nothing. Sometimes I get the feeling the comic writes itself into a corner, and gets bailed out by introducing new characters (with increasingly eccentric names and interests) to hyperfocus on for a few months. It’s more “vignettes about a small New England mill town” than an overarching plot.

            • Bridgebrain
              Bridgebrain
              January 7, 2022 at 5:31 pm | #

              I view the plot as “exploring the AI-Human future but not an apocalypses”
              The rest of the plot is just a delivery vehicle

          • drs
            drs
            January 7, 2022 at 3:16 am | #

            Then even later QC gets much worse, IMO.

            • Needfuldoer
              Needfuldoer
              January 7, 2022 at 5:11 am | #

              Agreed. I think the Faye/Bubbles arc was the last plot thread that felt planned in advance and fully executed to a satisfying conclusion.

              Once the repair shop was established, the comic went back to aimless meandering.

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                January 7, 2022 at 8:01 am | #

                I like a lot of the places it meanders to though, so I don’t really miss big plot arcs.

                • BarerMender
                  BarerMender
                  January 8, 2022 at 4:05 am | #

                  Agreed.

      • C.T. Phipps
        C.T. Phipps
        January 7, 2022 at 12:24 am | #

        How was it religiously motivated violence?

        • Jeff K!
          Jeff K!
          January 7, 2022 at 12:30 am | #

          It was violence caused by a desire to uphold a particular religious standard.

          • C.T. Phipps
            C.T. Phipps
            January 7, 2022 at 9:22 am | #

            I feel like if you attribute the gender roles and feelings on sex purely to religion you’re being dangerously reductive.

            • Spencer
              Spencer
              January 7, 2022 at 9:29 am | #

              where do y’think she learned them patriarchal gender roles and feelings on sex, bud

            • alongcameaspider
              alongcameaspider
              January 7, 2022 at 10:53 am | #

              I mean in general you’re right

              In Joyce’s case specifically though I’d absolutely attribute it solely to religion

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                January 7, 2022 at 11:19 am | #

                In general, you could at least have an interesting conversation about it. We could consider broadly how religious attitudes towards gender roles and sex have shaped society and been shaped by it in turn and how that affects even people not raised in a religion. Like Dorothy’s concerns about how her sexual needs will be seen.

                But this is Joyce and the entire main plot of the comic is about how she deals with having been messed up by her childhood in a cult. She literally says “Our fists were Instruments of the Lord.”

            • Arawn
              Arawn
              January 7, 2022 at 5:08 pm | #

              You’re completely right. Religion is absolutely unoriginal and quite frankly not at all pivotal to the development of the ethos of a community. Instead, religions are just a reflection or the founder’s prejudices. Therefore, no, religions are not the problem. They’re just the part that delivers the problem to the next generation as a bundle of lessons served up to corrupt the innocent! Therefore, religion itself is certainly not the problem.

        • Laura
          Laura
          January 7, 2022 at 12:31 am | #

          Quote: “Our fists were instruments of the LORD!” -Joyce

      • Jamie
        Jamie
        January 7, 2022 at 12:27 am | #

        FWIW, I don’t think either webcomic has used that trope in a long while.

        I’m having a hard time actually figuring out what your objection is, though. The stereotype of women being physically weak, or that slapstick comedy is weird when gendered?

        Like, QC never depicted Marten as shrugging off Faye’s hits. And DoA has had Amazi-girl since the beginning. So I think you have a point in there, but I can’t figure out exactly what it is.

        • alongcameaspider
          alongcameaspider
          January 7, 2022 at 12:33 am | #

          Wasn’t there an arc in QC relatively early on where there was a female vigilante beating the shit out of womanizers and she was treated like a straight up villain?

          And I remember Faye being genuinely apologetic when her shit got too much

          • Laura
            Laura
            January 7, 2022 at 12:39 am | #

            Yes, I recall that QC arc — but the vigilante was trying to run men over on her moped (IIRC), which is significantly more dangerous than punching. But punching is not excusable.

            Maybe Faye apologized once or twice, I don’t know. To me that doesn’t matter whether a person apologizes, if they are never held accountable for it and if they keep on doing it as a pattern. Like for example that time when Faye went to the hospital due to alcohol poisoning. She opens her eyes and punches Marten clean out, and that’s the whole punchline. And he doesn’t even mention it the next morning, just keeps showing sweet concern for her. I don’t like treating people as if they are entitled to hurt others just because they may have experienced oppression or violence or trauma in other contexts.

            …And, Mike was right. Amazi-Girl’s hobby is problematic, too. She’s better off now, playing roller derby, where the violence is expected and consensual.

            • GreyICE
              GreyICE
              January 7, 2022 at 12:47 am | #

              I mean there’s flavors of punching friends. My wife might punch me in the arm when I’m being a jerk but that doesn’t mean she’s beating the crap out of me.

              Does everyone think that everyone is throwing Mike Tyson haymakers here?

              • Laura
                Laura
                January 7, 2022 at 12:57 am | #

                Given the little stars of pain in QC, I got the impression that Faye hit Marten pretty hard. But sometimes people hit and hurt while they think they are just hitting lightly.

            • alongcameaspider
              alongcameaspider
              January 7, 2022 at 1:08 am | #

              On the hospital punch

              No part of that strip was a punchline, the entire moment was meant to be dramatic, I imagine she punched him because she wasn’t fully aware of what was happening at the time and Marten doesn’t bring it up because he knows that (and also his defining character flaw is he’s a bit of a doormat)

              And her being quick to punch is something she gradually gets better about, honestly don’t think she’s punched anyone in rl years

              • Laura
                Laura
                January 7, 2022 at 1:21 am | #

                Well, that’s good. I did see one a few years back where she tries to punch Marten and then stops herself, and says, “Sorry, just a reflex,” and he congratulates her on stopping. I mean, that’s progress. She has her jerkish moments, and Bubbles calls her out on them occasionally, but apparently they still love each other regardless of each any flaws, so hopefully that’s a good thing. And Bubbles really is too big and strong to be hurt easily by a physical attack.

        • Laura
          Laura
          January 7, 2022 at 12:34 am | #

          Thanks for checking in. What bothers me is the idea that women can’t be abusers. It makes light of domestic abuse, as if it doesn’t “count” when perpetrated by women. I always took QC as treating Faye’s punching of Marten as if it were a joke somehow, or occasionally something that he “deserved” for some smart-aleck comment.

          • Twitcher
            Twitcher
            January 7, 2022 at 6:51 am | #

            What you’re talking about is the Duluth Model of abuse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duluth_model#:~:text=Criticism%20of%20the%20Duluth%20Model,violent%20only%20in%20self%2Ddefense. I think Willis knows that women are capable of all sorts of violence, what with his “sainted mother” being the way she was.

            • someone
              someone
              January 7, 2022 at 1:44 pm | #

              “Criticism of the Duluth Model has centered on the program’s insistence that men are perpetrators who are violent because they have been socialized in a patriarchy that condones male violence, and that women are victims who are violent only in self-defense.”

              Oh great, more essentialism. “People with this phenotype are always like this, people with that phenotype are always like that.” For all the talks about broad spectrum and complex identity, it’s quite depressing how often people who should be expected to be progressive falls back to this simplistic model that wants to assign people a role (the villain or the victim) based entirely on what they look like rather than their actual story.

          • Jamie
            Jamie
            January 7, 2022 at 2:54 pm | #

            Thanks for clarifying. I’d agree that that’s a problem in general, though I have trouble agreeing with the comics being examples of it. But that’s probably more a case of my being relatively uneducated in this subject, and also I haven’t done the archive dives necessary to refresh myself.

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        January 7, 2022 at 12:41 am | #

        It’s a double standard. Society has a lot of them and Joe has probably internalized a bit of those toxic masculinity concepts. The whole “women are the physically weaker sex and thus can’t abuse men” Not sure how that translates when said women is using another man to commit that violence by proxy though? Joe was very creepy in early DoA but taking that night literally and metaphorically on the chin was pretty impressive by early Joe standards.

        • Laura
          Laura
          January 7, 2022 at 1:24 am | #

          Hmm, looks like I included too many links in my reply, because it’s in “awaiting moderation” limbo. (Never have I done anything in moderation…)

          So rather than include all the links, I’ll just say:

          My impression is that Joyce and Mike both piled on, at the end, hard enough to leave marks, and that Joyce later admitted to hitting Joe but minimized her actions by saying that she was too weak to have really hurt him:
          Starting from here and then going forward until their conversation in the elevator the next day.

          • Laura
            Laura
            January 7, 2022 at 1:29 am | #

            For reference, here is the subsequent elevator conversation.

          • Roe
            Roe
            January 7, 2022 at 1:36 pm | #

            I was wondering why I didn’t rem,ember this, but since I apparently read it 11 years ago, I’ll forgive myself

      • Pearl
        Pearl
        January 7, 2022 at 1:32 am | #

        In cartoons, it’s common for the consequences of physical violence to be downplayed for comedic effect.

        • Nova
          Nova
          January 7, 2022 at 2:37 am | #

          Yeah, but their point is – Only for women in these comics. If a male character punched one of the female characters it would not be downplayed for comedic effect. And, if it was, the comment section would be up in arms. Rightfully so.

          Is it really too much to ask that we don’t laugh at guys getting abused?

          • Pearl
            Pearl
            January 7, 2022 at 4:24 am | #

            Not really. The strips where Mike punches Joe are immediately followed by ones where Billie punches Ruth in the face, and they’re dating now.

            • Pearl
              Pearl
              January 7, 2022 at 4:26 am | #

              Or like they were for a while.

              And besides a one-time incident isn’t “abuse” it’s just a guy getting punched in the face for being a creep, which Joe was actually doing.

            • Laura
              Laura
              January 7, 2022 at 8:49 pm | #

              Yeah… Billie and Ruth was super problematic, and presented as such.

              • Pearl
                Pearl
                January 8, 2022 at 8:09 am | #

                Joyce being problematic is the point of the entire comic.

        • Laura
          Laura
          January 7, 2022 at 2:41 am | #

          Yeah. That bothers me. I don’t really know what to make of it.
          Real-life punching — or even open-fist slaps across the face can have such serious consequences. They can cause long-term cumulative traumatic damage to your brain and cervical spine. I wouldn’t wish a punch on anyone, and I’d have a hard time forgiving anyone who punched someone in the face. Even in play — it’s so easy not to know your own strength and hurt someone by accident.

          • Laura
            Laura
            January 7, 2022 at 2:45 am | #

            … I have some history around this kind of thing. Part of why this strikes a nerve.

          • Spencer
            Spencer
            January 7, 2022 at 5:12 am | #

            It’s not real life punching because they are cartoons.

            QC is a series that established that Cartoon Punching is fine and causes no lasting consequence. Whether or not the audience found it funny, how that joke got played out, and how it was indulging in “it’s funny for the Feisty Female Lead to punch the Doormat Male Lead” often enough that the funny bits drained it was just some shy dude getting smacked around and everyone involved didn’t want to have it anymore, least of all the author.

            DoA had these exact scenes with Billie/Ruth and Joe/Joyce, more specifically the latter. Joe gets smacked around and we think it’s funny, and then we get to their next Gender Studies class and it’s “actually this is deeply inappropriate and Joyce was motivated by a patriarchal gender standard into believing she could cause no harm” and so we stop laughing at “girls punching dudes” as a baseline for comedy. Dorothy once slapped Walky upside the head when he insulted Joyce, except that was funny because it was in a single panel and Walky had no facial expression, so it’s shaped by context.

            So “punching in the face for comedy” stopped being a universally Funny thing for this series, but then it was still funny when it happened to Billie for a while. Ruth would kick the crap out of her, but Billie would be kind of shrill and annoying so there’s at least some give and take where a moody jerk gets thrown into chairs. Then Ruth slams Billie into a wall and kisses her and it’s not funny and sorta retroactively stops, and so Ruth doesn’t hit Billie again.

            Meanwhile you’ve got Mary and Mary’s been slapped in the face so hard that it left an imprint of a dick. This is actually funny, except it fell kind of flat because Mary had yet established herself as a character who really deserved it, but then last year we got Dina aggressively hompking Mary when she starts being a jerk and it’s funny even though Dina is engaging in technically what is physical violence and harassment of Mary and I laugh because Mary throws wild cartoon faces. Or there was that time Amazi-Girl held her arm out and Malaya fell down and Marcie thought it was hilarious, and then a few years later it became impossible to laugh whenever she punched people because the cartoon superhero mythology Amazi-Girl had built up evaporated.

            Physical slapstick is a valid form of comedy for cartoons and it’s something that gets harder in situations that seem analogous to reality, which is probably why manga gets away with it so often; characters getting smacked there turn into cartoon silly putty before reshaping back to reality. It’s something that has to be shaped by context, where establishing what’s physical slapstick and what’s Actual Violence is important for the reader, but then just because it’s a joke doesn’t always make it a funny one if a story fails to both properly contextualize them as well as run the joke into the ground.

            • Thag Simmons
              Thag Simmons
              January 7, 2022 at 1:49 pm | #

              Yeah, the level of violence that can be played for comedy is pretty variable. There’s comedies that can get away with characters getting exploded or shot in the face as a joke, even though both have extreme and often fatal consequences in real life.

            • Laura
              Laura
              January 7, 2022 at 8:54 pm | #

              Wow, cool! Thanks for the deep dive! Thumbs up. 🙂

          • Roe
            Roe
            January 7, 2022 at 2:07 pm | #

            Not sure why people are trying to argue with you or ignore your real experience with violence—I’m sorry. violent comedy still normalizes or downplays violence in real life. it definitely desensitizes people.

            • Spencer
              Spencer
              January 7, 2022 at 2:33 pm | #

              No one has done this.

            • Laura
              Laura
              January 7, 2022 at 8:55 pm | #

              Thank you, Roe. That’s kind of you to say.

      • BarerMender
        BarerMender
        January 7, 2022 at 2:31 am | #

        Seriously. Why did Marten put up with Faye punching him? I’ve never struck a woman, but if she punched me, there’d be punching going on.

        • alongcameaspider
          alongcameaspider
          January 7, 2022 at 2:35 am | #

          Because Marten’s defining character trait is he’s a bit of a doormat

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        January 7, 2022 at 8:22 am | #

        Partly I think it was “early strip weirdness”. The tone on DoA hadn’t quite settled yet and the violence in that strip would have fit better in SP!.

        That said, it still did some character stuff for both Joyce and Joe and it was called back to more critically many times after. Even at the time, the “girls can’t hurt boys” thing read to me as a character trait of Joyce’s, not authorial truth. It also kept coming up throughout their early relationship, usually obliquely, eventually leading up to the “what was I, before I hurt you” bit.

        Honestly my biggest problem with that sequence is that it’s our only look at Joe on a date and Joyce is so awful it makes him look good by comparison.

      • Furubatsu
        Furubatsu
        January 7, 2022 at 11:04 am | #

        To be fair, Joe does call her out on it and after her saying that “girls can’t hurt boys” does she come to realise that actually, maybe that’s not right.

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      January 7, 2022 at 12:19 am | #

      It’s actually assault and battery.

      And that night, Mike was the Energizer bunny of punching.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      January 7, 2022 at 12:21 am | #

      It’s bad but nobody was seriously hurt and there don’t seem to be any hard feelings.

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      January 7, 2022 at 12:50 am | #

      OK so Ana Chronistic is sometimes away or off for a day, but she’s been absent three days now. Anybody know if she’s all good?

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        January 7, 2022 at 4:23 am | #

        Last I saw, she was on the news, flying around in some sort of self-made metal warsuit. Probably a little busy with that, I’d imagine.

    • a/snow/mous/e
      a/snow/mous/e
      January 7, 2022 at 11:42 am | #

      wow sirksome called the title-text

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      January 7, 2022 at 11:31 pm | #

      As someone who’s a fan of classic slapstick, when you bring a real life perspective to comedic violence it does make you think “why is there no consequences” But I mean it’s not like I mind when Nami hits Luffy, or Blooma hits Goku Or slapstick waifu hits bumbling MC #20. I dunno. I guess I can’t defend it but it’s a trope I’m pretty fond of.

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        January 7, 2022 at 11:47 pm | #

        Yeah me too.

        I mean, complaining about web comics for not being 100% realistic like this is kinda like complaining about Taco Bell not being 100% Authentic Mexican Food, because neither are ever SUPPOSED to be that, you know?

  2. The Wellerman
    The Wellerman
    January 7, 2022 at 12:06 am | #

    Seeing her cheered up like that is such a happy sight 🥲

    (if only I knew where she got that comfy shirt of hers)

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      January 7, 2022 at 12:10 am | #

      Hopefully it’s not exclusive to a Target store in Ohio.

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        January 7, 2022 at 3:00 am | #

        (seriously someone point me to her shirt it’s driving me crazy trying to search for it on Amazon) 😑

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        January 7, 2022 at 5:17 am | #

        It’s probably from Target or Kroger.

        • The Wellerman
          The Wellerman
          January 7, 2022 at 7:02 pm | #

          If only I knew the specific one Willis went to…

    • Carla's #2 Fan
      Carla's #2 Fan
      January 7, 2022 at 12:17 am | #

      I feel the same way. It gives me hope for her future. Like sure, she has such a long way to go, but maybe she’ll actually go there.

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      January 7, 2022 at 1:51 am | #

      yeah, it’d been a while I ever saw her laughing…

  3. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    January 7, 2022 at 12:10 am | #

    …huh. I never realized it before now, but that was pretty much the only time Joe and Mike interacted, wasn’t it. Just did a tag search, and literally the only other scene they’re both in was when Mike snuck into the Gender Studies class to humiliate Walky.

    • Joyfulldreams
      Joyfulldreams
      January 7, 2022 at 3:42 am | #

      Is there literally any way to search for two characters at once in the archive, I’ve been trying to figure that shit out for like over a year.

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        January 7, 2022 at 4:24 am | #

        You just put “Ruth+Dina” instead of “Ruth”, for example.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          January 7, 2022 at 5:16 am | #

          This works for at least three characters’ names.

          You can also put “site:dumbingofage.com” at the end of a Google search to find old comments. (Every comment has a permalink too, but you have to rummage through the page source to find it.)

        • Rose Red
          Rose Red
          January 7, 2022 at 10:58 am | #

          Thank you! That’s really helpful.

        • Joyfulldreams
          Joyfulldreams
          January 7, 2022 at 7:49 pm | #

          ITS BEEN THAT SIMPLE THIS WHOLE TIME????? *Man*….

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      January 7, 2022 at 8:43 am | #

      It’s kinda interesting trying random combinations of two character tags and seeing when or if they interacted with each other, or even if they ever shared the same strips together.

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        January 7, 2022 at 8:49 am | #

        Like how Sal and Joe didn’t have any interactions at all until she started dating Danny.

  4. Huehuetotl
    Huehuetotl
    January 7, 2022 at 12:16 am | #

    I had forgotten about that. https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/03-men-are-from-beck-women-are-from-clark/three/

    • carl320
      carl320
      January 7, 2022 at 12:19 am | #

      Going way back… I had forgotten also (Thanks for the comic link)

  5. Jamie
    Jamie
    January 7, 2022 at 12:16 am | #

    See, this is what you should’ve said at the funeral, Walky.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      January 7, 2022 at 12:20 am | #

      Did Walky know about it?

      • Jamie
        Jamie
        January 7, 2022 at 12:29 am | #

        Doubt it. Not sure it was clear, but I was joking. This would not actually have been a good story to tell plainly. Carefully edited, maybe, but it wasn’t anyone’s good memory of Mike, not even Joyce’s.

  6. Kravis
    Kravis
    January 7, 2022 at 12:18 am | #

    Chang:

    It’s funny cause he’s dead.

  7. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    January 7, 2022 at 12:20 am | #

    I totally forgot about that incident, and I feel like Joe and Joyce could apologize to the each other. I doubt that will happen unless they start dating, and even then it is only a maybe.

    So it’s time again to ask this, do you think Joyce and Joe will get together?

    • newlland(Henryvolt)
      newlland(Henryvolt)
      January 7, 2022 at 12:24 am | #

      Maybe, if it happens it happens and if doesn’t I know for a fact Joe will be to blame for blowing it again like all the other times.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      January 7, 2022 at 8:27 am | #

      Joe should apologize for Mike (and Joyce) beating him up? Odd take.

      That said, whether they’ve formally apologized for it or not, they’ve clearly gotten past it.

    • zee
      zee
      January 7, 2022 at 11:43 am | #

      Didn’t Joyce already apologize? During Joe’s cancellation arc (it’s funny to call it that.)
      I remember her acknowledging that she hurt him and i feel like she apologized but im on mobile and digging through the archive is a pain

      • Spencer
        Spencer
        January 7, 2022 at 12:05 pm | #

        Did an archive hike and from the looks of it, Joyce has never flat out said “sorry I hit you,” but acknowledged that what she had done had “hurt him” which then gave her the Zero-Minus ranking on his Do List when that got leaked.

  8. BBCC
    BBCC
    January 7, 2022 at 12:21 am | #

    Yeah, there wasn’t any serious harm done so it might seem/feel funnier now that he’s gone.

    Honestly, it’s surreal thinking about time you had with someone, even brief time or someone you don’t like, once they’re gone.

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      January 7, 2022 at 12:27 am | #

      Indeed, it’s not something you ever really get used to. It’s gets brought up more frequently if you spend time with others, like a group of friends, and the loss just hangs in the air.

  9. newlland(Henryvolt)
    newlland(Henryvolt)
    January 7, 2022 at 12:21 am | #

    I mean Joe seems to have just a little more of a memory of him than his roomate.

    • C.T. Phipps
      C.T. Phipps
      January 7, 2022 at 12:22 am | #

      *imagined conversation I assume is canon*

      Dan: I mean, is it SUCH a bad thing I said I hoped he stayed in a coma forever and then he died soon after?

      Joe: Yes. Dude. What the fuck?

      • newlland(Henryvolt)
        newlland(Henryvolt)
        January 7, 2022 at 12:33 am | #

        How I would feel about if I was in his shoes is kind of like how I felt with the last president a little more than a year ago.

        “I’m not wishing for him to die but if he does croak I’m just not going to feel anything for his ass, I will sing him no eulogy.” That would have been better than wishing him to be permanently left as a Is comatose vegetable or death because he got with my crush at the time.

        • Spencer
          Spencer
          January 7, 2022 at 5:14 am | #

          This did not happen.

          • C.T. Phipps
            C.T. Phipps
            January 7, 2022 at 9:22 am | #

            Yes, because Mike faked his death. It’ll be the ultimate prank.

            • zee
              zee
              January 7, 2022 at 11:44 am | #

              Because Danny didn’t actually say he wanted mike in a coma forever, just a while longer

              • Spencer
                Spencer
                January 7, 2022 at 12:09 pm | #

                yeh

                More specifically, he said it completely foot-in-mouth and then apologized in the following strip’s first panel, whereupon an actual argument started about Mike getting immediately forgiven.

                I dunno why these specific character reads keep propagating despite being at best a woeful misread of what actually happens in the comic, but I blame TV Tropes.

                • Axel_Grease
                  Axel_Grease
                  January 7, 2022 at 1:02 pm | #

                  It bothers me too. Danny wanted a break from a toxic person. He knew this was selfish and inappropriate, and looked mortified when he blurted it out by accident. But it was such a big moment that I think it sticks in the mind of many readers, especially since Mike eventually died.

                • thejeff
                  thejeff
                  January 7, 2022 at 3:22 pm | #

                  Yeah, it was a crappy thing to say at all and even more so right then and there, but damn do people seem to remember it as far worse than that. It was bad enough, leave it there.

                  I don’t actually think it was selfish though. Yeah, he’d been thinking about his crush on Ethan, but if you look back to Danny’s last talk with Mike (at Dina and Sarah’s birthday party) he’s pretty clearly focused on how bad Mike’s been to Ethan, not on anything Mike’s done to Danny. I read him as thinking (and then blurting out) that Ethan will be better off with Mike not around for awhile.

  10. Viktoria
    Viktoria
    January 7, 2022 at 12:27 am | #

    I suspect Amber’s laughing because she’s reminded of the fact that she’s mourning a guy who objectively was an asshole, which is just a hilarious waste of her time and energy. Joe will probably also find that funny if she explains it.

    Ethan won’t.

    • Bryy
      Bryy
      January 7, 2022 at 1:48 am | #

      It isn’t a waste of time or energy, though.

      She’s processing what she is feeling, and furthermore, she probably blames herself for his death.

    • Clif
      Clif
      January 7, 2022 at 1:56 am | #

      Amber’s laughing because Joe can’t hear what ghost Mike is saying.

      • powerpowerpow
        powerpowerpow
        January 7, 2022 at 12:42 pm | #

        “Yeah, I pounded him like 60 times, but not as hard as I pounded his mom. For a nickel.”

        • Jamie
          Jamie
          January 7, 2022 at 3:41 pm | #

          What did happen to Joe’s mom, anyway?

    • C.T. Phipps
      C.T. Phipps
      January 7, 2022 at 9:23 am | #

      I feel like if you think that Mike’s relationship to Amber was purely that of a asshole, you’ve missed a lot of what she and he were about.

      • Spencer
        Spencer
        January 7, 2022 at 9:32 am | #

        The last realization Mike had, the one that motivated him into tackling Blaine off a balcony, is the realization that what he saw as sincerely helping was actually him being the second most emotionally destructive person in Amber’s life.

        Mike was a shithead edgelord who thought he had life figured out so well that he could dispense misery to make the people he cared about grow, and now he’s permanently lost the chance to ever start undoing the damage he caused.

  11. Warcodered
    Warcodered
    January 7, 2022 at 12:34 am | #

    Joe is best Bro.

  12. Reaver
    Reaver
    January 7, 2022 at 12:41 am | #

    I like the detail of the little puffs of their breath.

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      January 7, 2022 at 12:52 am | #

      I like that too. Willis had been doing really good work on visual details like this in recent years.

      Got a tasty joke? 😋

  13. Chaucer59
    Chaucer59
    January 7, 2022 at 12:43 am | #

    Still laughing. Not sorry.

  14. jmsr7
    jmsr7
    January 7, 2022 at 12:43 am | #

    Laughing turns into cry-laughing and an emotional breakdown in 3-2-1-…

  15. thakoru
    thakoru
    January 7, 2022 at 1:03 am | #

    Yeah, it was almost definitely more than 60 times. Probably not 70, though. 70 would just be excessive. But if it were just below 70…

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      January 7, 2022 at 1:22 am | #

      Like sixty-eight plus one?

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        January 7, 2022 at 2:31 am | #

        That sounds like a nice estimate.

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      January 7, 2022 at 4:26 am | #

      Mike can punch faster than Star Platinum, so it was probably a bit more than that.

  16. Bagge
    Bagge
    January 7, 2022 at 2:33 am | #

    Awww, it’s so him.

  17. Delicious Taffy
    Delicious Taffy
    January 7, 2022 at 4:29 am | #

    Look, I’m just glad she can smile and laugh about something at this point.

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      January 7, 2022 at 5:35 am | #

      Hey, just wanted to pop in and compliment your Ruth-as-Joker.

      (It took me longer to figure that out than maybe it should have, which is extra embarrassing since I saw the original before the internet.)

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        January 7, 2022 at 6:36 am | #

        We like our palette-swaps ’round these parts. If I ever got around to messing with that fan-game idea I had, Ruth would probably be the one with the most costumes.

  18. Carms
    Carms
    January 7, 2022 at 5:03 am | #

    its only just occurring to me that they actually do have similar neuroses. Amber thinks she’s an inch away from punching anyone and everyone, and Joe thinks he is like. radioactive or something. and will hurt people just by dint of getting close to them.
    i’m pretty sure ive seen exactly this in the comments before. probably several times. but its the first time that neurons link has actually connected in my own brain

  19. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    January 7, 2022 at 5:16 am | #

    she looks half about to tears up

    • Zaxares
      Zaxares
      January 7, 2022 at 5:52 am | #

      That’s actually a good thing. 🙂 This is how grief is processed in the brain. You can’t be constantly dwelling on the bad memories or how it’s your fault or longing for the dead person to be back again. You need to remember the departed in a good way, a way that makes you smile and laugh and be grateful for the memories they have left you. There will no doubt still be times of sadness or regret, but they won’t be overwhelming.

  20. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    January 7, 2022 at 5:26 am | #

    I didn’t expect this to become fun. Amber is laughing and seems really amused to have discovered something she didn’t know about her dead friend. Good job Joe! He’s really a great brother.

  21. James Rye
    James Rye
    January 7, 2022 at 5:53 am | #

    Dunno why but to me it feels like next strip Amber will cry, like this laughing was the drop to break her dam that kept all her feelings closed off. Crying might also help her, just like laughing does.

    • alongcameaspider
      alongcameaspider
      January 7, 2022 at 2:10 pm | #

      If this is the case then Joe will have already helped her more then every other character in the comic combined

      • justin8448
        justin8448
        January 7, 2022 at 10:03 pm | #

        Yay for Joe!

  22. Wereg
    Wereg
    January 7, 2022 at 8:16 am | #

    Dang, this is probably the first genuine emotion she’s felt in a while.

  23. Kaidah
    Kaidah
    January 7, 2022 at 8:35 am | #

    “It wasn’t so funny when it happened, but it’s a great story.”

  24. Deanatay
    Deanatay
    January 7, 2022 at 9:15 am | #

    “I am obligated to laugh once for each time my dead friend punched you in the face. Let me just discharge that obligation, right now.”

    HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHA

  25. Spencer
    Spencer
    January 7, 2022 at 9:33 am | #

    Eagerly anticipating the moment where Danny and Sal have it out and Joe’s just “you should talk about your feelings and expectations with each other.”

    And then every single blood cell on Danny’s face explodes at once, killing him instantly.

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      January 7, 2022 at 1:21 pm | #

      On his face? What, was Danny a messily-eating vampire?

      • Spencer
        Spencer
        January 7, 2022 at 2:24 pm | #

        God damn it.

        That happens to me so often lately. Stupid stubby fingers.

  26. Mr.Morningstar
    Mr.Morningstar
    January 7, 2022 at 9:42 am | #

    I honestly keep forgetting Joyce and Joe did go on a date once.

    • Ragingagnostic
      Ragingagnostic
      January 7, 2022 at 3:24 pm | #

      I don’t forget. It’s a happy memory for me, too. XD
      http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/03-men-are-from-beck-women-are-from-clark/bliss/

  27. Alan in DC
    Alan in DC
    January 7, 2022 at 5:28 pm | #

    Other than to drive home the comedy, why didn’t Joe just punch Mike back after the first hit?
    Look how big that mutha is!

  28. Derek
    Derek
    January 7, 2022 at 6:40 pm | #

    Looking back on the “Joe gets punched by Mike” arc, I somehow forgot that Joyce calls Lindsay Lohan a slut

    https://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/03-men-are-from-beck-women-are-from-clark/pizza-2/

    I thought that would be a no-no word for her, since she can’t (couldn’t)say sex. Could she say whore back then?

  29. Andru
    Andru
    January 14, 2022 at 8:53 pm | #

    Well shit, I didn’t know he died. I thought he was just in a soap opra coma to return in a very special episode when the ratings dropped

Who should be the default doodle for Book 14?

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You Can’t Even Watch A Movie Anymore Without Seeing Some Theme Explored
I’ve loved movies ever since I was a little kid. Just stepping into that dark theater, with the smell of fresh popcorn, was like being transported to a whole other world. It used to be so magical. But now I’m thinking about boycotting movies altogether. Why? Because I can’t seem to watch one anymore without […]
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
GOTTEM
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geoffrey @parsnip.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
the 90s were a wild time. if i told you how many magazines there were you wouldnt even believe me
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Aubrey Gilleran @aubreygilleran.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
It's not a new argument, of course, but Chesterton dismissed it effectively in 1908. "You will hear everlastingly... this argument that the rich man cannot be bribed. The fact is, of course, that the rich man is bribed; he has been bribed already. That is why he is a rich man."
atrupar.com's user avatarAaron Rupar @atrupar.com ⋅ 1d
Hawley dismisses Trump lining his pockets with his memecoin: "Listen, I think nobody believes that Donald Trump can be bought. I mean, what does Donald Trump need more money for?"
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Cat Manning @catacalypto.bsky.social ⋅ 10d
1984 calendar meme reading 1529, the year of the first Ottoman siege of Vienna
spavel.bsky.social's user avatarPavel🐀 @spavel.bsky.social ⋅ 10d
Who can forget the Swiss-Austrian Union, or its famous capital - Istanbul.
AI generated ad by a company called Travello showing the 10 most visited cities in Europe, except the cities are hilariously poorly placed. London is in Wales, Paris is in Ireland, Rome is in France, Rom (yes like Rome but without an E) is in Spain, Barcelona is in Morocco, Prague is in Germany, Vienna is in Italy, Istanbul is in Austria, Milan is in Libya, and Antalya is correctly shown as in Turkey but is in the wrong place. Also a few of the borders like Switzerland and Austria or Hungary and Slovenia are missing.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
*at the very end of Andor, cassian travels through a vortex that makes everyone look a decade younger*
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
(May 14, 2026)
a bemused lucy watches as somebody collapses on her dorm room floor
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 1d
wilbur, savvy enough to know he's in a comic strip but still not a great actor, awkwardly lifts a muffin up into frame so that we, the audience, understand that he has a muffin right now, which is very important narratively, but he's not really selling it well as an organic, human action
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Dumbing of Age: "Up" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic #dofa
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
i mean i... guess there are people who want toy-accurate hyper-articulated original-toy-look guys but in cartoon colors for some reason
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Fuck you, Clayface!!!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
www.ebay.com/itm/23609982... selling my LG34 Mindwipe, minus Servant
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Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Transformers Generations TakaraTomy Legends LG34 Wipe (Mindwipe), incomplete at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many pro...
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Menace Level: up to date on his vaccinations
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Today in #9ChickweedLane I learned Gran is back from the grave so she can jerk it to furry porn with her daughter
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
www.ebay.com/itm/23609184... 5 hours left on my 4-jet titans return tidal wave
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Check out those stickers. They make him look pretty great, actually. That aircraft carrier mode shines. Tidal Wave is loose and incomplete! So there's only four (4) jets!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
confirming that the reason there's been no Galaxy Version female characters in Blokees until now is that they felt they needed to make Round Lady Thighs For Ladies
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Dumbing of Age: "For you" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
y'know there's not an awful lot of rocketeering in The Rocketeer
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wint @dril.bsky.social ⋅ 4d
buddy you came to the wrong ass to fuck
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Man if they were arresting judges then this'd be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard but thankfully that's not happening.
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