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didn’t congress actually just pass a law to make it so we don’t have to change the clocks anymore? Or is that still in the works? I was thrilled to see it either way though. A bizarre occurrence of right/left unity, truly unprecedented in our contemporary times.
But I do know that this was tried in the early 70s, and Florida’s governor led the charge to repeal it because kids were getting hit by cars in the dark dark mornings.
The reason it wasn’t much bigger news, I’m thinking, was that it happened at about the same time as Watergate.
Well, between the mass shootings and the pandemic response, it’s pretty obvious a whole lotta folks don’t actually care about kids dying so it might stick this time.
The Senate passed a bill to make DST permanent. The House has not. Permanent DST is the opposite of what we should do, permanent Standard Time is the proper answer but DST is what corporations prefer.
Yeah, but the Senate passed it in a really sneaky way that a lot of Senators are really ticked about. They used unanimous consent, which is not as unanimous as it sounds. It basically just requires nobody in the Senate to object, and they usually give a good heads up, but no notification was given and a whole lot of staff didn’t communicate to Senators that this happened, so nobody objected and it automatically passed. This was not a 100-0 vote.
I wouldn’t hold my breath for it to pass the House.
I would hope not, because Daylight Savings Time is the literal devil and I hate it from the bottom of my being. I would support eliminating time zones and just having everyone run on GMT over making DST permanent. At least that makes some sort of sense.
I’d hope we’d all normalise south-at-the-top maps before something as cursed as GMT/Zulu, which would lead to dates changing in the middle of the day.
Universal time should be based on the first time zone after the date line, and I’m not just saying that because of how, purely by coincidence, that’s where I live.
Hear, hear! GMT universal time as a method of timekeeping is awful.
Honestly, I understand why standard time is preferable to DST *insofar as* it’s a more accurate representation of time defined as ’12 noon is when the sun reaches its zenith in the sky’, which was our historical definition….
But if I am being honest, I really actually far prefer DST over Standard Time, because it aligns the hours of day ever so slightly more with the numbers that I choose to be awake on the clock, meaning that I typically have one more hour of daylight during DST- and in the dead of winter, if I have no other obligations forcing me to get up, that might literally double my regular daily daylight hours. (Given that I tend to get up of my own accord by about 3pm, and go to bed by about 6am… Quite a bad schedule for someone whose employment is teaching in a school! Rip sleep…)
We just got to this “no changing time non-sense” and now we’re stuck with nazi germany time at UTC+2 when we are in fact fucking one of the few UTC=GMT. No kidding, it’s a thing that first happened in the country by collaboration gov to coordinate better with nazi germany occupying half the country and therafter we somehow never came back to GMT.
So now we still don’t have any shared human rights in EU, but we got the same time zone, which is historically here the nazi one, even if it wasn’t the “point”, it’s still not a thing that should happen.
It’s bad enough that it gets light early in the morning in the summer. There’s no need for that awfulness in the winter. And changing the clock twice a year is just stupid.
I just want whichever one means it gets dark sooner. Unless we can manipulate the earth’s rotation such that it always begins to lighten where I am once I’ve gone to sleep, and darkens again right before I wake.
I never want to see the sun again, is what I’m trying to say.
I agree with you, if we’re gonna get rid of DST, the better way is to make standard time permanent, not permanent DST. And moving the clock forward even one hour causes increases in health problems and accidents for weeks after. https://www.businessinsider.com/daylight-saving-time-is-deadly-2018-3
Permanent DST is superior because most folks don’t actually need daylight for their morning routine anymore. Most people do more outdoor things in the evening than in the morning, so shifting the workday earlier makes more sense for MOST people.
To be fair, the recently-passed-by-the-House bill is just about the stupidest way they could have gone about abolishing it—and from what I’ve heard, the last time they tried this exact method of doing so back in the ’70s or ’80s, it was so unpopular that it got reversed by another bill after hardly a year, so.
isn’t it the usual USA thing of wanting to do everything different from everyone else, because they can’t be looking like they’re following other countries, see, they’re number one and all that.
Even the current time change, on the 15th, when most counties do it on the last sunday of the month.
If Americans don’t do everything in a way that everyone else can make fun of, what will the rest of the world do for entertainment? We serve a vital purpose in the world’s ecosystem.
If Americans weren’t so opposed to having more than one thing in a given category, they could just say “Yeah, school starts at 9am instead of 8am in the colder months.” and kids would adjust naturally. Instead, we have complete nonsense.
What?? I’m given to believe that in Japan they go to school at like 5am and don’t leave until the sun is setting, and they allegedly have excellent test scores and also severe depression, crippling performance anxiety, disproportionate suicide rates, and most importantly the test scores thing please ignore the rest. Are you telling me that’s not a good thing?
I was going to be shocked by schools starting at 8 instead of 9 (or 8:45 or 8:40)…
Fun fact: I only discovered about a decade after finishing school that I was supposed to have been there for 8:40. The entire time up til then I had been convinced that registration was at 8:50 and that was when I was supposed to get there.
I mean, I still didn’t get there for 8:50 consistently because my time management isn’t amazing, was a chronic insomniac, and hated mornings – but I may have had a CHANCE had I correctly understood when I should have been there. You would have thought somebody would have said at some point, even if only sarcastically!
Isn’t it teenagers who have the most trouble with early starts? Wonder if it would be an improvement just to switch the usual elementary and high school start times?
The Senate, not the House, and with a really wonky process that has a lot of Senators really ticked off. This is likely going to be a big old pile of nothing.
As someone who lives in Arizona, I can tell you it’s a constant source of bemusement that the entire rest of the country just does this bizarre thing twice a year like it’s totally normal, while we’re down here doing completely fine without it.
Usually, when something is bad, it’s existence at least makes a degree of sense. Like there’s somebody with power who benefits from things being this way, or at least thinks they benefit. You can understand the bad thing, see why it exists even if it’s a pain for everybody.
This is not the case with moving clocks back and forth every year. Nobody benefits, everyone thinks this shit sucks, abolish it already.
The idea was first proposed by a New Zealand entomologist who wanted more time to study bugs. This was stupid and nobody listened to him. Then it was picked by this English busybody who thought that people didn’t spend enough time playing cricket and hunting foxes and such. This was also stupid and nobody listened to him.
THEN, during WWI Germany and Austria-Hungary adopted it as a wartime productivity measure, which meant everybody else had to as well, even though there’s no evidence it actually accomplished anything. Unfortunately, it has stuck around on-and-off since.
I’m always baffled by how far people will go to avoid just waking up earlier on their own. They have to make up entire laws and rules and traditions to trick themselves into it, instead of just… setting their alarm a little earlier and not dragging all of us down with them.
Personally, I like the part where I get an extra hour of sleep so I think we should do that twice a year instead and see where it takes us after a few years.
I recommend moving to Mars as soon as Musk gets his act together and sets up a colony there. Day length is about 37 minutes longer than here, which might help you to synchronise.
BONUS: one third gravity! Put a little bounce in your step! Or a lot.
Glad to see someone else thinks multiplanetary is important. Kind of puts our timezone problems in perspective. Don’t have to approve of Musk as a person for this. This is bigger than him. He’s just a … vessel.
Looking at history, many great things were accomplished by people who were, frankly, dicks. Pretty much the goal of civilization is to channel people’s more dickish impulses in a direction that’s socially useful.
I do believe there’s a flaw in that argument- all of the studies that I have seen use DST to refer to the practice of switching time twice annually. I don’t know of any studies that specify the psychological benefits/costs of referring to the time of daylight by x or y number, without adjusting that time otherwise. For myself personally, I know that my time of waking, based on the numbers on the clock, benefits from the hours given by DST.
Now, I also need to point out that neither DST nor Standard Time are accurate to the traditional method of telling time, that is noon being exactly at the peak of the sun; because our time-zones are too broad. If the time zone is set such that 12:00 PM is at the sun’s highest point at its Easternmost edge, then the Westernmost edge would not see the sun at its highest point until 12:59.59 PM. Therefore, I say we repeal the 24 one-hour based timezones, and implement the 1440 one-minute based time slivers! XD
You are overlooking the Equation of Time. Owing to the eccentricity of Earth’s orbit and the obliquity of its rotation the length of the actual solar day varies slightly through the year, and in a way that depends on latitude. We ought to slice each of your 1440 time zones into 180 latitudinal sections and have a spherical grid of 259 200 time-blocks with offsets from each other that change from day to day. Computers can look after the details.
Daylight Savings Time is stupid. The best explanation of it that I ever heard went something like this:
Daylight Savings Time is as if you had a blanket and you cut a foot off one end of the blanket and sewed it onto the other end, and then deluded yourself into believing that you now have a longer blanket.
Or it’s like getting up one hour after sun rise instead of two hours after sunrise and deluding yourself that you spend more time awake during daylight.
That’s just the result of living at higher latitudes, along with such other things as “seasons” and “temperate climate”. If you want sunsets to be at a fairly consistent time year-round, move to the tropics.
As someone in a country who doesn’t do it, in a long distance relationship with someone in a country that does, i loathe it to no end. You’d be surprised the difference between a 6 hour time gap and a 7 hour one.
I know time is a construct but i cannot fathom having the arrogance to say “i know the earth is in this position in it’s rotation right now BUT we, your government, declare it’s this other time now actually”
For even more cheeriness, try a long distance relationship with someone in a country that does daylight saving in the opposite half of the year, so that you switch at arbitrary time between difference of sixteen, seventeen, and eighteen hours, four changes per year.
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wow i just realized how bad dorothy is gonna feel when she realizes she focused 100% of the social capital of this friend group on her friend’s friend’s queer trauma, and it led to her neglecting a huge amount of trauma that her actual close friend is going through, because she has that friend’s trauma compartmentalized under [PERSONAL ISSUES: TRAUMA] instead of [SYSTEMIC ISSUES: TRAUMA], and she is preternaturally predisposed to see problems of the prior lens as “so easy they don’t count,” while seeing the latter problems through the lens of “problems that affect those systemically treated unfairly, and thus of primary social importance, requiring full attention and goal-oriented solutions.” idk that observation just makes me =(
Systemic issues filter into personal issues in that the Queer population of the US has to deal with systemic abuse and attempted stripping of their human rights on a macro level, as in that is something they all face, but then an individual person suffering that systemic issue is still one person in a sea of people with personal issues, and plenty of those personal issues are also systemic.
Like here in Ontario the ASD population is being mistreated where 50,000 kids are being waitlisted for support and my premier’s only contribution was to tell them to get a job. That is a systemic issue in that the system is causing it and my value as a human being is placed under question on the grounds that the leader of my province is saying to his voter base who then continues to vote for him, and also it is a personal issue because, well, *gestures broadly at the average neurotypical*
That’s all real shit to me, but if I meet a guy being abused by his wife and it’s fine because haha girls can’t hit guys he should just man up and leave, I don’t think I’m supposed to compare myself to him and judge myself more deserving of support on the grounds that this is a personal issue (and it isn’t, it’s systemic on a cultural level, like most personal issues).
Like the only thing I should worry about when I see two problem with problems is how they can both be helped.
Like that time Roz was super correct about Becky working for Robin so Dorothy’s only contribution was to go “um, actually Roz, helpful reminder: Becky is a lesbian” as if Becky working for someone who was going to make life worse for everyone is fine because being a lesbian from a shitty home gave her a thorough understanding of political wargaming.
With Joyce I don’t think it’s that rigid, in that it’s mostly been expressed that one time Joyce went off on one at Ruth so Dorothy started a textbook read of sexual fluidity and identity, whereas what Joyce was saying was “I could have made Ethan straight and it would have been my fault!” I do think it’s extremely clear that she’s viewing this through the lens of “sad Becky being bullied by mean Joyce” and it’s established that Dorothy coddles her, and while Becky’s identity absolutely filters into that I dunno if the stated, textual reason would turn out to be “Dorothy thinks The Gays are soft uwu beans who need her protection.”
She absolutely does think this, because she is a white middle class neolib, but, like, it’s probably not gonna be stated.
This was a solid chapter. Was expecting more Sarah and a different sort of Trial, but this was charming and sweet and who can complain about more Dina than you anticipated
Hey, Sarah did have her trial. She saw her little sisters with problems she absolutely could have supported them through, because all she has to do was hear them out instead of taking over.
She just failed, because she’s Sarah and doesn’t think she’s capable of meaningfully giving back to someone she loves. I was actually expecting a big character development jamboree, but if we skip right to the destination ten we miss out on the journey.
But without addressing the actual root anxieties Liz is experiencing there’s nothing stopping her from doing it again but she knows she can’t go to Sarah this time (granted this may have happened while Sarah was offscreen)
You’re saying this as if “Liz dropping out” was some kind of tangible possibility and not Liz flailing in a panic in front of her big sister because she has an actual problem over at BSU, let alone a major motivator in the plot of the last chapter, where Sarah approaches a problem her little sister has, completely fails to display the slightest humanity at her inconvenience, and then returns home to her other little sister and throws her hands in the air proclaiming that she’s not only completely helpless to do the slightest good for Joyce, she’s someone that Joyce shouldn’t ever admire.
Like I don’t think the trial of Trial & Sarah was giving Liz a ride back.
It still hasn’t been brought to the House, cause House says it’s stupid and the House shouldn’t deal with it. Personally I prefer permanent Standard time instead of getting up hours before sunrise just to improve a few companies’ bottom lines.
Isn’t Indiana one of those states that doesn’t switch to Daylight time with the rest of the country? I know it was when I lived in Louisville. It made my friend who was an entertainer pretty crazy trying to make sure he showed up for gigs in the state at the right time.
If I remember correctly, the state stayed officially on CST, while some areas (those counties near cities in other states namely Louisville, Chicago and Cincinnati) unofficially kept time with their more populous neighbors. Add that to the fact that Kentucky was one of the few states already split into two time zones, my friend always worried he was going to be late for a paying job and never be invited back.
This is adorable, but I’m so distracted by Becky’s hair. Who sleeps with their long hair under their face? instead of flopped up over the top of the pillow? Hair under the face is itchy, or is this just me?
I guess at this point all of the characters are too young to have direct experience with how Indiana didn’t observe regular DST until a few years into this century.
Optimus Prime broke down and cried on the set of "Transformers" (2007) due to the extensive use of green screen filming. He reportedly said, "This is not why I became an actor."
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Gov. Tim Walz is doubling down on trans rights — and criticizing members of his party who are retreating — at a time when the issue has become a political lightning rod nationally and back home in Minnesota.
they managed to get the arms and thighs to be different grays, which I wasn't sure they'd be able to do, the way the mold's set up
though maybe they're just producing a lot of extra thighs and/or arms in the wrong colors and throwing those away, i dunno
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I imagine even if clock-changing becomes abolished, it’ll still take a minute to leave the public conscious
wonder how long it took for people to get used to stuff like not having an elevator operator or party lines anymore
Dotty, I totes have a nightlight you can have
it comes with a humidifier attached
… I think I have that same nightlight/humidifier. The one where you can set it to cycle through all the colors, right?
they only had the one! =p
didn’t congress actually just pass a law to make it so we don’t have to change the clocks anymore? Or is that still in the works? I was thrilled to see it either way though. A bizarre occurrence of right/left unity, truly unprecedented in our contemporary times.
The US Senate passed a bill for permanent DST, but the House rejected it.
Or not. I may be stupid.
But I do know that this was tried in the early 70s, and Florida’s governor led the charge to repeal it because kids were getting hit by cars in the dark dark mornings.
The reason it wasn’t much bigger news, I’m thinking, was that it happened at about the same time as Watergate.
Well, between the mass shootings and the pandemic response, it’s pretty obvious a whole lotta folks don’t actually care about kids dying so it might stick this time.
No streetlights in Florida?
Waitaminute, more importantly no reflectors on kids cloths and schoolbags either?!!
The Senate passed a bill to make DST permanent. The House has not. Permanent DST is the opposite of what we should do, permanent Standard Time is the proper answer but DST is what corporations prefer.
Yeah, but the Senate passed it in a really sneaky way that a lot of Senators are really ticked about. They used unanimous consent, which is not as unanimous as it sounds. It basically just requires nobody in the Senate to object, and they usually give a good heads up, but no notification was given and a whole lot of staff didn’t communicate to Senators that this happened, so nobody objected and it automatically passed. This was not a 100-0 vote.
I wouldn’t hold my breath for it to pass the House.
I would hope not, because Daylight Savings Time is the literal devil and I hate it from the bottom of my being. I would support eliminating time zones and just having everyone run on GMT over making DST permanent. At least that makes some sort of sense.
I’d hope we’d all normalise south-at-the-top maps before something as cursed as GMT/Zulu, which would lead to dates changing in the middle of the day.
Universal time should be based on the first time zone after the date line, and I’m not just saying that because of how, purely by coincidence, that’s where I live.
Hear, hear! GMT universal time as a method of timekeeping is awful.
Honestly, I understand why standard time is preferable to DST *insofar as* it’s a more accurate representation of time defined as ’12 noon is when the sun reaches its zenith in the sky’, which was our historical definition….
But if I am being honest, I really actually far prefer DST over Standard Time, because it aligns the hours of day ever so slightly more with the numbers that I choose to be awake on the clock, meaning that I typically have one more hour of daylight during DST- and in the dead of winter, if I have no other obligations forcing me to get up, that might literally double my regular daily daylight hours. (Given that I tend to get up of my own accord by about 3pm, and go to bed by about 6am… Quite a bad schedule for someone whose employment is teaching in a school! Rip sleep…)
Obviously the answer is to just move to a timezone that matches your pattern better.
Better yet, get a job working remotely in a timezone that matches your pattern.
We just got to this “no changing time non-sense” and now we’re stuck with nazi germany time at UTC+2 when we are in fact fucking one of the few UTC=GMT. No kidding, it’s a thing that first happened in the country by collaboration gov to coordinate better with nazi germany occupying half the country and therafter we somehow never came back to GMT.
So now we still don’t have any shared human rights in EU, but we got the same time zone, which is historically here the nazi one, even if it wasn’t the “point”, it’s still not a thing that should happen.
GAH! NO!!!!
It’s bad enough that it gets light early in the morning in the summer. There’s no need for that awfulness in the winter. And changing the clock twice a year is just stupid.
Permanent DST is the way to go.
I just want whichever one means it gets dark sooner. Unless we can manipulate the earth’s rotation such that it always begins to lighten where I am once I’ve gone to sleep, and darkens again right before I wake.
I never want to see the sun again, is what I’m trying to say.
I agree with you, if we’re gonna get rid of DST, the better way is to make standard time permanent, not permanent DST. And moving the clock forward even one hour causes increases in health problems and accidents for weeks after.
https://www.businessinsider.com/daylight-saving-time-is-deadly-2018-3
Permanent DST is superior because most folks don’t actually need daylight for their morning routine anymore. Most people do more outdoor things in the evening than in the morning, so shifting the workday earlier makes more sense for MOST people.
But getting up is harder when it’s still dark out.
So change office hours to 0800–1600 rather than lie about the time.
To be fair, the recently-passed-by-the-House bill is just about the stupidest way they could have gone about abolishing it—and from what I’ve heard, the last time they tried this exact method of doing so back in the ’70s or ’80s, it was so unpopular that it got reversed by another bill after hardly a year, so.
(And I say this as someone who loathes the idea of arbitrarily changing clocks, for the record)
Yeah, I haven’t looked into much, but the idea of having Daylight Savings Time always be “on” instead of standard time all the time seems…wrong…
isn’t it the usual USA thing of wanting to do everything different from everyone else, because they can’t be looking like they’re following other countries, see, they’re number one and all that.
Even the current time change, on the 15th, when most counties do it on the last sunday of the month.
If Americans don’t do everything in a way that everyone else can make fun of, what will the rest of the world do for entertainment? We serve a vital purpose in the world’s ecosystem.
Oh it’s all good. There’s still plenty to mock while we don’t look under our own rugs.
Yeah, Nixon tried it to “save gas,” somehow. I remember it. School kids were going out to catch the bus in the middle of the night.
If Americans weren’t so opposed to having more than one thing in a given category, they could just say “Yeah, school starts at 9am instead of 8am in the colder months.” and kids would adjust naturally. Instead, we have complete nonsense.
and really they should always start later because we know its better for their brains
What?? I’m given to believe that in Japan they go to school at like 5am and don’t leave until the sun is setting, and they allegedly have excellent test scores and also severe depression, crippling performance anxiety, disproportionate suicide rates, and most importantly the test scores thing please ignore the rest. Are you telling me that’s not a good thing?
I mean the way we did it gave me all of those things without the excellent test scores, so maybe they’re onto something here.
I was going to be shocked by schools starting at 8 instead of 9 (or 8:45 or 8:40)…
Fun fact: I only discovered about a decade after finishing school that I was supposed to have been there for 8:40. The entire time up til then I had been convinced that registration was at 8:50 and that was when I was supposed to get there.
I mean, I still didn’t get there for 8:50 consistently because my time management isn’t amazing, was a chronic insomniac, and hated mornings – but I may have had a CHANCE had I correctly understood when I should have been there. You would have thought somebody would have said at some point, even if only sarcastically!
I’m impressed you got through an entire school career violating system norms. This is an accomplishment to be proud of!
Stick it to the Man, yeah!
Nope, gotta get school finished early enough in the day so they can tend the fields before sunset.
/s
And summer vacation is only a way for children to tend the fields full time before the harvest.
Isn’t it teenagers who have the most trouble with early starts? Wonder if it would be an improvement just to switch the usual elementary and high school start times?
The Senate, not the House, and with a really wonky process that has a lot of Senators really ticked off. This is likely going to be a big old pile of nothing.
As someone who lives in Arizona, I can tell you it’s a constant source of bemusement that the entire rest of the country just does this bizarre thing twice a year like it’s totally normal, while we’re down here doing completely fine without it.
that ALMOST makes me want to move to Arizona
ALMOST
AWE!!! 🥹
Hope these lovely dinosaurs have the the sweetest dinosaur dreams!!!
*plays “Emerald Tide” by Michael J. Murphy on Hacked Muzak*
Dinosaur Dreams is a good album name
I hate Daylight Savings Time with a burning passion.
Yep.
Usually, when something is bad, it’s existence at least makes a degree of sense. Like there’s somebody with power who benefits from things being this way, or at least thinks they benefit. You can understand the bad thing, see why it exists even if it’s a pain for everybody.
This is not the case with moving clocks back and forth every year. Nobody benefits, everyone thinks this shit sucks, abolish it already.
The idea was first proposed by a New Zealand entomologist who wanted more time to study bugs. This was stupid and nobody listened to him. Then it was picked by this English busybody who thought that people didn’t spend enough time playing cricket and hunting foxes and such. This was also stupid and nobody listened to him.
THEN, during WWI Germany and Austria-Hungary adopted it as a wartime productivity measure, which meant everybody else had to as well, even though there’s no evidence it actually accomplished anything. Unfortunately, it has stuck around on-and-off since.
In conclusion, it’s the Kaiser’s fault.
I’m always baffled by how far people will go to avoid just waking up earlier on their own. They have to make up entire laws and rules and traditions to trick themselves into it, instead of just… setting their alarm a little earlier and not dragging all of us down with them.
“Where’d that Daylight Savings Time come from, Kaiser?”
“Step-Kaiser, I’m stuck in the Daylight Saving Time! Can you help me out?”
Is he called Step-Kaiser because he stepped on Belgium
In the US the Idea was first proposed by a B. Franklin as a way to conserve candles pre-Revolution.
Daylight Saving Time out here taking all the crap when it’s Standard Time that sucks.
Just wake up around when the sun’s up like a normal hunter-gatherer. Or when it goes down, like a night watcher.
Personally, I like the part where I get an extra hour of sleep so I think we should do that twice a year instead and see where it takes us after a few years.
It’s not extra though. It’s all smoke and mirrors. If anything, you get an hour stolen from you on the opposite end.
I think you might have misunderstood Nathan’s suggestion, which is to put the clocks forward by one hour twice per year and never put them back.
Or vice versa I have never had a firm grip on the metaphor by which “later” and “earlier” are mapped to directions.
I have long argued for this, but apparently other people are not permanently jetlagged and have circadian rhythms tied to day and night..?
I recommend moving to Mars as soon as Musk gets his act together and sets up a colony there. Day length is about 37 minutes longer than here, which might help you to synchronise.
BONUS: one third gravity! Put a little bounce in your step! Or a lot.
Glad to see someone else thinks multiplanetary is important. Kind of puts our timezone problems in perspective. Don’t have to approve of Musk as a person for this. This is bigger than him. He’s just a … vessel.
Looking at history, many great things were accomplished by people who were, frankly, dicks. Pretty much the goal of civilization is to channel people’s more dickish impulses in a direction that’s socially useful.
All the science we have disagrees with you. DST makes people sad, standard time is much more healthy.
I do believe there’s a flaw in that argument- all of the studies that I have seen use DST to refer to the practice of switching time twice annually. I don’t know of any studies that specify the psychological benefits/costs of referring to the time of daylight by x or y number, without adjusting that time otherwise. For myself personally, I know that my time of waking, based on the numbers on the clock, benefits from the hours given by DST.
Now, I also need to point out that neither DST nor Standard Time are accurate to the traditional method of telling time, that is noon being exactly at the peak of the sun; because our time-zones are too broad. If the time zone is set such that 12:00 PM is at the sun’s highest point at its Easternmost edge, then the Westernmost edge would not see the sun at its highest point until 12:59.59 PM. Therefore, I say we repeal the 24 one-hour based timezones, and implement the 1440 one-minute based time slivers! XD
You are overlooking the Equation of Time. Owing to the eccentricity of Earth’s orbit and the obliquity of its rotation the length of the actual solar day varies slightly through the year, and in a way that depends on latitude. We ought to slice each of your 1440 time zones into 180 latitudinal sections and have a spherical grid of 259 200 time-blocks with offsets from each other that change from day to day. Computers can look after the details.
Daylight Savings Time is stupid. The best explanation of it that I ever heard went something like this:
Daylight Savings Time is as if you had a blanket and you cut a foot off one end of the blanket and sewed it onto the other end, and then deluded yourself into believing that you now have a longer blanket.
Or it’s like getting up one hour after sun rise instead of two hours after sunrise and deluding yourself that you spend more time awake during daylight.
Counterargument: Sunset at 4:30 PM suuuuuuucks.
That’s just the result of living at higher latitudes, along with such other things as “seasons” and “temperate climate”. If you want sunsets to be at a fairly consistent time year-round, move to the tropics.
And to the western edge of a timezone.
The sun only getting over the horizon once it’s 9am would be even worse, though.
It amazes me that anyone actually likes DST. It makes no sense at all to me.
As someone in a country who doesn’t do it, in a long distance relationship with someone in a country that does, i loathe it to no end. You’d be surprised the difference between a 6 hour time gap and a 7 hour one.
I know time is a construct but i cannot fathom having the arrogance to say “i know the earth is in this position in it’s rotation right now BUT we, your government, declare it’s this other time now actually”
For even more cheeriness, try a long distance relationship with someone in a country that does daylight saving in the opposite half of the year, so that you switch at arbitrary time between difference of sixteen, seventeen, and eighteen hours, four changes per year.
This possesses all the wholesome
This is so cute.
Also, god, really does reinforce how Joyce has been in bed all day.
Yeah, sometimes the uterus do be like that
They look so happy <3
I love Dorothy’s inner journey, here.
Also if we cut it off at Panel 2, it’s super fucking ominous and I love that even more.
“Sure Morty, if you spend all day shuffling panels around, you can make anything look bad!”
Ominous… fucking….
Thanks for the idea!
Hey, sometimes ya just gotta fuck ominously. A proper licky-style loom, a horizontal menace, a lurkjob. Classic stuff.
Panel 2: Zombie Ross’ hair has grown shaggy in the grave, but he is filled with the righteousness of the Lord and therefore knows, unlike his daughter, that there are things in the world more important than haircuts.
Don’t ruin the moment.
wow i just realized how bad dorothy is gonna feel when she realizes she focused 100% of the social capital of this friend group on her friend’s friend’s queer trauma, and it led to her neglecting a huge amount of trauma that her actual close friend is going through, because she has that friend’s trauma compartmentalized under [PERSONAL ISSUES: TRAUMA] instead of [SYSTEMIC ISSUES: TRAUMA], and she is preternaturally predisposed to see problems of the prior lens as “so easy they don’t count,” while seeing the latter problems through the lens of “problems that affect those systemically treated unfairly, and thus of primary social importance, requiring full attention and goal-oriented solutions.” idk that observation just makes me =(
The problem with that analysis is that systemic issues ARE personal for those of us suffering because of them.
Systemic issues filter into personal issues in that the Queer population of the US has to deal with systemic abuse and attempted stripping of their human rights on a macro level, as in that is something they all face, but then an individual person suffering that systemic issue is still one person in a sea of people with personal issues, and plenty of those personal issues are also systemic.
Like here in Ontario the ASD population is being mistreated where 50,000 kids are being waitlisted for support and my premier’s only contribution was to tell them to get a job. That is a systemic issue in that the system is causing it and my value as a human being is placed under question on the grounds that the leader of my province is saying to his voter base who then continues to vote for him, and also it is a personal issue because, well, *gestures broadly at the average neurotypical*
That’s all real shit to me, but if I meet a guy being abused by his wife and it’s fine because haha girls can’t hit guys he should just man up and leave, I don’t think I’m supposed to compare myself to him and judge myself more deserving of support on the grounds that this is a personal issue (and it isn’t, it’s systemic on a cultural level, like most personal issues).
Like the only thing I should worry about when I see two problem with problems is how they can both be helped.
I mean yeah, she does do this.
Like that time Roz was super correct about Becky working for Robin so Dorothy’s only contribution was to go “um, actually Roz, helpful reminder: Becky is a lesbian” as if Becky working for someone who was going to make life worse for everyone is fine because being a lesbian from a shitty home gave her a thorough understanding of political wargaming.
With Joyce I don’t think it’s that rigid, in that it’s mostly been expressed that one time Joyce went off on one at Ruth so Dorothy started a textbook read of sexual fluidity and identity, whereas what Joyce was saying was “I could have made Ethan straight and it would have been my fault!” I do think it’s extremely clear that she’s viewing this through the lens of “sad Becky being bullied by mean Joyce” and it’s established that Dorothy coddles her, and while Becky’s identity absolutely filters into that I dunno if the stated, textual reason would turn out to be “Dorothy thinks The Gays are soft uwu beans who need her protection.”
She absolutely does think this, because she is a white middle class neolib, but, like, it’s probably not gonna be stated.
The last time we saw Dorothy, she was dealing with Joyce…
Willis, yesterday Dina said Becky was going to be the little spoon. I demand you get into an online feud with Three Panel Soul over what that means.
http://www.threepanelsoul.com/comic/who-stacks-irregular-spoons-anyway
SPOON!
SPOON-BENDING!!!
Say, wouldn’t it be AWESOME if Becky’s dream was The Construct and Dina was teaching her how to dodge spoons in slow-motion Matrix style?!?! 🤩
Not in the face! Not in the face!
“There is no spoon.”
The great Tick/Neo debate.
“When do we turn our clocks forward?”
Well, in a year or so, never, if Congress has their way!
Congress can fuck right off anyhow. Just like, in general.
Quick question, have either Becky or Dina seen The Matrix?
This was a solid chapter. Was expecting more Sarah and a different sort of Trial, but this was charming and sweet and who can complain about more Dina than you anticipated
If only my anxiety and depression didn’t get in the way of enjoying it nearly every day.
Oh well. I guess the product of 4.5 billion years worth of happy accidents can only do so much right.
Hey, Sarah did have her trial. She saw her little sisters with problems she absolutely could have supported them through, because all she has to do was hear them out instead of taking over.
She just failed, because she’s Sarah and doesn’t think she’s capable of meaningfully giving back to someone she loves. I was actually expecting a big character development jamboree, but if we skip right to the destination ten we miss out on the journey.
You’re never going to admit that Sarah stopping Liz from dropping out of college wasn’t a bad thing, are you
Don’t answer that
It wasn’t a bad thing
But without addressing the actual root anxieties Liz is experiencing there’s nothing stopping her from doing it again but she knows she can’t go to Sarah this time (granted this may have happened while Sarah was offscreen)
You’re saying this as if “Liz dropping out” was some kind of tangible possibility and not Liz flailing in a panic in front of her big sister because she has an actual problem over at BSU, let alone a major motivator in the plot of the last chapter, where Sarah approaches a problem her little sister has, completely fails to display the slightest humanity at her inconvenience, and then returns home to her other little sister and throws her hands in the air proclaiming that she’s not only completely helpless to do the slightest good for Joyce, she’s someone that Joyce shouldn’t ever admire.
Like I don’t think the trial of Trial & Sarah was giving Liz a ride back.
Same, Dorothy, same.
7 AM or PM?
If only I don’t hum Journey for every strip next chapter— Billie?
Panel 4 Dorothy would be a great avatar.
And all of this is the cutest.
Everyone is sleeping early in this storyline.
Funny how this comic became dated between when it was drawn and when it was actually published.
It still hasn’t been brought to the House, cause House says it’s stupid and the House shouldn’t deal with it. Personally I prefer permanent Standard time instead of getting up hours before sunrise just to improve a few companies’ bottom lines.
Dorothy looks so happy for them♡♡♡. She’s a good friend.
Yeah,
I’m sure Becky will be unnecessarily mean to her after of course but yeah!
It seems positive that the first line from her is not immediate snark.
To be fair to Becky in this circumstance, if I was cuddling in the dark and someone looked at me like it was a Hallmark moment, I would feel weird.
Like I’d make at least one comment before moving on, at least.
Isn’t Indiana one of those states that doesn’t switch to Daylight time with the rest of the country? I know it was when I lived in Louisville. It made my friend who was an entertainer pretty crazy trying to make sure he showed up for gigs in the state at the right time.
If I remember correctly, the state stayed officially on CST, while some areas (those counties near cities in other states namely Louisville, Chicago and Cincinnati) unofficially kept time with their more populous neighbors. Add that to the fact that Kentucky was one of the few states already split into two time zones, my friend always worried he was going to be late for a paying job and never be invited back.
I thought it was only Arizona for the mainland?
Becky is slipping a bit in her ‘irresponsible room mate persona’, but I suppose spooning so Dorothy can’t read gets the work done
This is adorable, but I’m so distracted by Becky’s hair. Who sleeps with their long hair under their face? instead of flopped up over the top of the pillow? Hair under the face is itchy, or is this just me?
The hair goes back behind the head and then the blanket goes over the hair to keep it in place. This is the tradition.
It’s actually a helmet.
That’s how Becky got her hair longer when she first got it cut.
Everyone should just wear a Bonnet. Once again the black community has the best solution
AWWWWW! That’s sweet.
As for DST vs Standard Time, I don’t really care which we settle on, I just don’t want to set my clocks forward and back.
I guess I starting to find out how Dumbing of Age works
Needs a little work before it becomes a fleshed out theory, but it’s an EXCELLENT and HILARIOUS start nonetheless!!!
For one, your chart forgot to account for DOA video games made by aliens like me!!!
Speaking of which, meet me on Discord Amos, I wanna show you something!
I guess at this point all of the characters are too young to have direct experience with how Indiana didn’t observe regular DST until a few years into this century.