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May 12, 2026

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by David M Willis on March 26, 2023 at 12:01 am
  • 03 – Joementum
└ Tags: joe, joyce

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    March 26, 2023 at 12:01 am | #

    “GOOD THING I DIDN’T MENTION HIS BUTT OR ANYTHING”

    …

    “HIS TUSH IS HIS THING RIGHT”

    • Lumino
      Lumino
      March 26, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

      10/10

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      March 26, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

      Ah, no wonder she wore such a short jacket. Easier access to her tummy.

      • GholaHalleck
        GholaHalleck
        March 26, 2023 at 3:15 pm | #

        The fun part of this is, if you go back a page, there’s a oddly square-headed shadow next to joyce’s parents.

  2. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    March 26, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    Eh, the jacket’s covering most of it anyway.

  3. BBCC
    BBCC
    March 26, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    Oh, absolutely. Very smooth. Such flirt, much romance. Wow.

    • Clif
      Clif
      March 26, 2023 at 2:42 am | #

      Joyce is nailing it.

      • Emperor Norton II
        Emperor Norton II
        March 26, 2023 at 12:32 pm | #

        At least she wants to nail it, HEEYO!

    • Masumi
      Masumi
      March 26, 2023 at 7:18 am | #

      Suddenly I’m worrying how many times I thought I’m nailing a social situation, but was, in fact, very much not.

      • Taellosse
        Taellosse
        March 27, 2023 at 10:26 pm | #

        Often, the ratio is alarmingly high – most humans grossly overestimate their own abilities.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      March 26, 2023 at 9:38 am | #

      [Plays Smooth on bagpipes]

  4. True Survivor
    True Survivor
    March 26, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    That last thought can be taken several different ways – one of them very different form the others.

  5. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    March 26, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    I mean, can’t argue with results. He’s smitten with her, so she’s sorta doing this right.

    • justin8448
      justin8448
      March 26, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

      Joyce still finding more ways to be adorable, confirmed.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        March 26, 2023 at 9:39 am | #

        She can do the impossible!

    • Mark
      Mark
      March 26, 2023 at 8:16 am | #

      She accomplished that by just being Joyce.

  6. J. Spider
    J. Spider
    March 26, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    She is nailing this, I think Joe’s feelings are going to blind him anyways.

    Kinda envious, I remember feeling strong emotion/attachment but it’s been a decade lol

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      March 26, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

      I’m so sorry. That sounds horrible. What happened, if you don’t mind me asking?

      • Moonlighter
        Moonlighter
        March 26, 2023 at 12:25 am | #

        I don’t think it’s necessarily a tragic story.
        Affection feels like this incredibly powerful force when you’re in your summer years, but once autumn comes around many people find that their tastes change. You don’t want the rollercoaster of emotion, you want something steady and comfortable. The tea and blanket of relationships, if you will.

        • AKP
          AKP
          March 26, 2023 at 1:54 am | #

          Yeah there’s something really special about how something feels at the beginning, especially when you’re a wildly anxious wreck. When you’re in it you would probably prefer it was not that way, but every once in awhile now that everything is stable and happy I think back on it very very fondly.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        March 26, 2023 at 9:41 am | #

        I’ll overshare.

        Ever meet someone who just makes you stop in your tracks, but you have absolutely no fucking idea what to do about it? That’s happened to me at least three times.

        • J. Spider
          J. Spider
          March 26, 2023 at 2:54 pm | #

          @Needfuldoer do you have ADHD? I’m just curious as I had similar issues during my teenage years where my early emotions/crushes would lock me out of even being able to approach people. I’d experience intense emotions so rapidly I couldn’t process it.

          Apparently low emotional regulation can be tied to ADHD though it can also be several other factors.

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            March 26, 2023 at 8:56 pm | #

            Yes. When I was diagnosed (almost 20 years ago, holy smokes), it was “ADD” because I don’t have the hyperactivity. I think the current DSM would call it ADHD-PI? I’m also technically slightly Autistic; it used to be named after a controversial German scientist but that terminology’s since fallen out of favor.

            For me it’s less “lockout”, more “oh crap what do I do what do I do” as I get extremely self-conscious, fear of coming across as a creep sets in, and all masking goes out the window. I have less than zero game.

            It’s a bit like this early strip where Walky meets Dorothy, except I don’t throw toys at them. (Maybe that’s the secret?)

            https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/02-uphill-from-here/dexter/

            • Carms
              Carms
              March 26, 2023 at 10:56 pm | #

              “I’m going to stand REALLY STILL until you are my friend, this will definitely not work and I know it but I REALLY WANT IT TO WORK”

            • J. Spider
              J. Spider
              March 26, 2023 at 11:24 pm | #

              I’ve wondered about being tested in the more modern age but as a teenager I was tested as having ADHD along with an above average retention rate. Looking around I’ve realized alot of my more recent friends have generally been on the spectrum. I’m not sure if that would mean I do but I do like people who hyperfixate which is a symptom of both ADHD and autism because I find people with clear interests are easier to understand than nerotypical folks who give generic responses I don’t always follow.

              I used to get self concious more around crowds or I’d overthink how I walk lol.

              I think my lockout also occured from my religious upbringing which filled my head with alot of paranoia about how relationships are supposed to match up. I think some of that programming still interferes with me today.

              Have you had many relationships? I’ve found the ones that I’ve had always stemmed from strong friendships over time which is where adulthood sucks since there isn’t a college commons to hang around and play Yugioh.

              I’m also curious if you’ve heard of RSD (rejection sensitive dysphoria)? It isn’t an official diagnosis yet but there’s a correlation with ADHD and RSD at least to my understanding.

      • J. Spider
        J. Spider
        March 26, 2023 at 2:50 pm | #

        Most people are kinda getting it.

        Experience makes you more cautious with your feelings and that doesn’t mean that attachment is beyond you but it does mean I don’t rapidly experience attachment/excitement the way I did as a teenager/young adult. Also alot of emotions lack the same kick when they’re not new.

        I can relate to Joyce alot as I came from a very restrictive upbringing. Despite being a guy and my deconversion happening in my late 20’s rather than early on in College.

        I struggled with a sense of identity without the religion and then I worked retention customer service during the pandemic which overloaded me with emotional labor. Doing waaaay better now but doing high intensity emotional support without much of my own just drained me which would be my terrible secret past.

  7. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    March 26, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    *tries looking for an old jingle for blue jeans*

    • RacingTurtle
      RacingTurtle
      March 26, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

      Heaven help her, Joe has got his blue jeans on

    • Plain Marie
      Plain Marie
      March 26, 2023 at 12:21 am | #

      Forever in blue jeans, babe.

  8. Bittersweet
    Bittersweet
    March 26, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    This strip resonates way too much with me for my comfort lol, 10/10 for effort Joyce. Replace the arms behind the head with one curled up on my chest in a non-existent waistcoat like an 1800’s portrait and I’m pretty sure I’ve done this.

  9. Yumi
    Yumi
    March 26, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    Love when I tell myself to be normal, and then blurt out the weirdest shit. Definitely familiar with the last panel internal reaction.

  10. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    March 26, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    That’s rude Joyce. Don’t call Joe a “This”.

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      March 26, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

      Poor boy put his heart out there and she only see’s him as a “this”. That’s rough.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        March 26, 2023 at 12:24 am | #

        It really takes some of the fun out of the nailing.

    • anon
      anon
      March 26, 2023 at 2:34 am | #

      Well i’m sure he’ll forgive some objectification ;P

    • GholaHalleck
      GholaHalleck
      March 26, 2023 at 2:36 pm | #

      Joe “Maytag” Rosenthal.

  11. Grimey
    Grimey
    March 26, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

    This feels…Very familiar on an IRL level. Knowing you’re both at least baseline attracted to each other, but unsure of what to do with it. Vastly different experiences, and zero “relationship experience” from both ends of the spectrum? Like Joe’s never had a real girlfriend has he?

    • Fred
      Fred
      March 26, 2023 at 3:27 am | #

      Joe’s never had a girlfriend on screen, talked about one, nor has Danny or Dorothy (both of whom knew him before college) has mentioned. That is not to say he hasn’t had one. I can totally imagine a “prequel” plotlines where Young Joe had his heart broken and he vowed to never catch feelings again, and he and Danny swore to Never Mention Her Name Again, etc. But you are correct. This is Joes’s first real relationship on screen and from all the information we know, first ever.

      • GholaHalleck
        GholaHalleck
        March 26, 2023 at 2:40 pm | #

        I always pegged it as Joe’s living under the shadow of his father’s womanizing.

        If he had any kind of serious relationship, it was probably hosed by either his dad banging his GF’s mom,

        or the GF being skeezed out about his dad and thinking “the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree” and breaking up with him and breaking his heart.

        Creating the “no woman could ever really love me, I’ll be a man whore and never catch feelings again!” stance he had at the start of comic.

  12. adam Black
    adam Black
    March 26, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

    Now I know why Joyce is unsure where to put her hands.

  13. Ray
    Ray
    March 26, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

    Sat with my autistic face in my hand for five minutes trying to think of a comment besides ‘same’.

    …Same.

  14. Erica
    Erica
    March 26, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

    The way Joyce acts about Joe make me question whether she actually likes him or is just horny. It would be ironic if he finally has real feelings for a girl and she is only interested in his body. I hope that’s not the case, I don’t want him to get hurt

    • shrub
      shrub
      March 26, 2023 at 12:38 am | #

      They have built up a level of trust through prior interactions so maybe there’s more than lust going on

      I hope there’s more going on

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        March 26, 2023 at 7:14 pm | #

        Today’s strip is not an example of this, but it seems like she’s a lot more comfortable around him than her other friends. Like she doesn’t have to hide anything or compete for time. Her feelings probably aren’t the same as his, but she’s more than just horny.

    • Steelbright
      Steelbright
      March 26, 2023 at 1:08 am | #

      I’ve also thought this tbh, and i hope there’s more going on than just lust, but we honestly haven’t seen that much from Joyce to suggest it. It is clear that she trusts him more than many people in her life right now, which is heartening… Seems like it definitely could become more.

    • Dday
      Dday
      March 26, 2023 at 1:32 am | #

      You’re probably not going to like the things they had to say about each other, but they clearly had some kind of mutual attraction as soon as they met, and Joyce seemed to think of Joe as perfect dating material (at first).
      https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/03-men-are-from-beck-women-are-from-clark/follow/
      The line between physical and emotional attraction can be blurry/wavy/squiggly but I get the sense that Joyce actually is drawn to Joe as a person and not just a source of meat.

      • Mark
        Mark
        March 26, 2023 at 8:24 am | #

        Indeed, Joe is being smarmy, but that’s not his usual approach.

    • Nono
      Nono
      March 26, 2023 at 1:32 am | #

      Having rubbed one out might have helped.

    • Schpoonman
      Schpoonman
      March 26, 2023 at 7:33 am | #

      She has repeatedly expressed disappointment in Joe when he’s brushed off emotional attachment, most recently when describing him as “libido with a face.” If that were the case (barring Joyce’s many existing hang-ups), she would have been nearly so excited to find he has feelings.

      I don’t get where people keep getting this idea that she’s not actually emotionally invested in Joe.

      • Schpoonman
        Schpoonman
        March 26, 2023 at 7:57 am | #

        *wouldn’t have been…

  15. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    March 26, 2023 at 12:26 am | #

    Narrator: “She was not, in fact, nailing this.”

  16. Suet
    Suet
    March 26, 2023 at 12:26 am | #

    So nailing it

  17. Sajuuk-Khar
    Sajuuk-Khar
    March 26, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

    Roz, appearing as if via eldritch summoning: “Actually, Joyce, that’s called pegging, and—”

  18. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    March 26, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

    I can’t read about characters complimenting each other’s butts without thinking of the greatest shot in the history of animation.

    • Dana
      Dana
      March 26, 2023 at 12:46 am | #

      That was certainly a video.

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        March 26, 2023 at 2:46 am | #

        I think this is what’s called a YouTube Poop. 😛

  19. Golden Yak
    Golden Yak
    March 26, 2023 at 12:29 am | #

    Hook, line, sinker, rod, and copy of ‘Angling Monthly’, Joyce.

  20. UrsulaDavina
    UrsulaDavina
    March 26, 2023 at 12:30 am | #

    Nailing it 100% Joyce!

    His tush probably does look good in the outfit but it is not be addressed.

  21. shrub
    shrub
    March 26, 2023 at 12:40 am | #

    This is a nice, awkward, sweet interaction between two friends that are well suited to each other, it’s good to see

    Hopefully Dorothy doesn’t turn up to ruin it

  22. Warcodered
    Warcodered
    March 26, 2023 at 12:46 am | #

    flawless

  23. brionl
    brionl
    March 26, 2023 at 12:47 am | #

    Boy, it’s nice to see somebody who is worse with the opposite sex than I am.

  24. Blume
    Blume
    March 26, 2023 at 12:55 am | #

    You’re doing great sweetie!

  25. Dday
    Dday
    March 26, 2023 at 1:04 am | #

    She actually is nailing it. Her goofy, corny, naive purity is what sets her apart, it’s why Joe thinks she’s special. That and her irrational fear of soup.

  26. Steelbright
    Steelbright
    March 26, 2023 at 1:04 am | #

    Yes, those are the excellent, social, casual remarks of someone who is not horny in the slightest.

  27. Bryy
    Bryy
    March 26, 2023 at 1:18 am | #

    She’s not nailing him yet.

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      March 26, 2023 at 11:51 pm | #

      yet…

  28. Pocky
    Pocky
    March 26, 2023 at 1:24 am | #

    knocking it out of the park

  29. Raja
    Raja
    March 26, 2023 at 1:28 am | #

    Grade A flirting, keep it up

  30. V
    V
    March 26, 2023 at 1:33 am | #

    Joyce is trying to figure out how to become less sexually repressed, like Joe; Joe is trying to figure out how to become more romantically inclined, like Joyce. Is it just me or is this relationship heading for disaster?

    • Mark
      Mark
      March 26, 2023 at 8:28 am | #

      Or is it destined to become legendary? Sounds like a combination that could be very bad or awesome depending on how they manage it.

      • Daibhid C
        Daibhid C
        March 26, 2023 at 10:14 am | #

        Yeah, it feels like its either “meet in the middle” or “miss each other, over-correct, crash and burn”. I’m hoping for the former.

  31. Bogeywoman
    Bogeywoman
    March 26, 2023 at 1:55 am | #

    I flirt like Joyce 😵‍💫
    Just messaged my crush: “You have a nice face. I appreciate looking at it. I formally invite you to put your face on my face whenever you like.”

    • justin8448
      justin8448
      March 26, 2023 at 4:19 am | #

      Good luck on seeing those feelings requited, Bogeywoman!

      • Bogeywoman
        Bogeywoman
        March 27, 2023 at 2:10 am | #

        She blushed so hard she hid her face in her shirt and was adorable. My flirting technique is surprisingly effective. Apparently people find it charming.

    • Zaxares
      Zaxares
      March 26, 2023 at 5:16 am | #

      “Invitation accepted. How does 5 mins of forehead touching sound?” 😉

    • Emperor Norton II
      Emperor Norton II
      March 26, 2023 at 12:35 pm | #

      It would absolutely work on me if I had been the recipient.

  32. Wraithy2773
    Wraithy2773
    March 26, 2023 at 2:04 am | #

    If Dorothy saw this, she might actually recognize that Joe’s changed.

    Because Old Joe would not be nearly this bad at trying to get with a girl.

    • Matthew Davis
      Matthew Davis
      March 26, 2023 at 12:42 pm | #

      Old Joe would have the constant look of worry, either, any time he tries to unleash his inner Danny. He is _so_ convinced he’s going to break Joyce.

      Actually, thinking about it it’s sort of reveral of their relative positions in this storyline. Danny is fairly confident with Sal — he’s finally decided that if she likes him and he’s this big ol ukelele nerd then he’s going to go with it. Joe is the one who’s trying to figure things out.

  33. Cmasta1992
    Cmasta1992
    March 26, 2023 at 2:14 am | #

    I love them and will die on this ship

    • Schpoonman
      Schpoonman
      March 26, 2023 at 7:34 am | #

      “I will go down with this ship.”

      • Emperor Norton II
        Emperor Norton II
        March 26, 2023 at 12:34 pm | #

        “I will go down with this hill.”

  34. Amós Batista
    Amós Batista
    March 26, 2023 at 2:17 am | #

    Joyce’s getting more and more cute in this storyline.

  35. J. Steven York
    J. Steven York
    March 26, 2023 at 3:25 am | #

    Okay, this is nerdy, but although I know this comic is often (always?) based on real locations, this is the first time I’ve been able (pretty easily, actually) been able to pull up Google Street View and figure out EXACTLY where a comic was set and match the details. At first things seemed wrong, and then (duh!) I realized the comic (unlike the pictures) was set in winter, when there are no leaves on the trees and the planters are empty!

    • Mark
      Mark
      March 26, 2023 at 6:33 pm | #

      One of the things I like about this comic is the occasional feeling of “yeah, I’ve been there!”

  36. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    March 26, 2023 at 3:40 am | #

    You’re nailing this about as well as Jesus nailed the cross

  37. AY
    AY
    March 26, 2023 at 5:33 am | #

    Joyce is so relatable for me. I also walked backwards into my first real relationship during my second semester of uni. In my case, we’ve been together now for 12 years. But I remember so well how it felt to be at this stage of things. Nostalgic.

  38. eh, whatever
    eh, whatever
    March 26, 2023 at 7:09 am | #

    It must be horrible to be an extrovert.

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      March 26, 2023 at 1:56 pm | #

      Fuck yeah!
      Like, how an extrovert can travel alone for 2 or 3 hours straight????
      And how they get single for more than 1 month??

  39. CJ
    CJ
    March 26, 2023 at 8:06 am | #

    The lady doth protest too much.

  40. Mr.Morningstar
    Mr.Morningstar
    March 26, 2023 at 8:15 am | #

    Joyce

    Ignore dorothy on this one, you’re allowed like him

  41. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    March 26, 2023 at 8:20 am | #

    Joe’s xhoice of a fairly short jacket, in Indiana, in January, is paying dividends.

    Also respect for Joyce maturing from “tushie”.

    https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/03-up-all-night-to-get-vengeance/bootycall/

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      March 26, 2023 at 9:47 am | #

      Or it’s just Joyce recalling from experience.

      https://www.dumbingofage.com/twohours/

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        March 26, 2023 at 12:33 pm | #

        Good one! You were referring also to Yoto’s fan art linked in that one also?

  42. Keulen
    Keulen
    March 26, 2023 at 9:59 am | #

    Very smooth Joyce. Smooth as sandpaper.

  43. vulcanodon
    vulcanodon
    March 26, 2023 at 10:27 am | #

    Good job having only platonic thoughts there…

    • vulcanodon
      vulcanodon
      March 26, 2023 at 10:59 am | #

      (Joe, that reactor is overheating, and you’re the only one who can save us all)

  44. Kazuma Taichi
    Kazuma Taichi
    March 26, 2023 at 10:34 am | #

    sounds like realistic dialogue to me TuT

  45. Thanatos
    Thanatos
    March 26, 2023 at 12:24 pm | #

    Schrodinger’s Tush

  46. Dr. Sharks
    Dr. Sharks
    March 26, 2023 at 12:32 pm | #

    I’d have thought Joyce’s failure to nail it here would only make her more endearing to Joe, but his facial expressions seem to say otherwise and it’s concerning.

    Also, unrelatedly, I keep getting an ad on this page that covers the edges of the screen with leaves, obscuring most of the first and last panels of the comic. Dunno where to report that sort of thing.

    • Blue
      Blue
      March 26, 2023 at 1:09 pm | #

      I think they’re just mutually awkward at this point.

    • Mark
      Mark
      March 26, 2023 at 6:38 pm | #

      I think Joe can’t decide between “worst. flirting. ever.” and “she’s feeling awkward, what do I do???”

  47. eskimolos
    eskimolos
    March 26, 2023 at 1:34 pm | #

    honestly, I love this for Joe, he’s possibly never actually had butterflies and not knowing how to act with a girl before. This is his first proper crush that we know of, and it’s absolutely precious.

  48. NameLips
    NameLips
    March 26, 2023 at 7:07 pm | #

    This is fascinating, because both of them are unsure what they’re wanting, don’t know what they’re doing, and struggling with a friend group who is unwilling to accept the way their personalities are changing.

  49. Taffy
    Taffy
    March 26, 2023 at 8:12 pm | #

    Haha. Nailing.

  50. Carms
    Carms
    March 26, 2023 at 11:03 pm | #

    So I was trying to explain to someone why I’m enjoying this SO much. Like. The standard trope here is silent pining and obliviousness, right, and this exact interaction happens but both people are like ‘oh god did I give myself away’ and/or ‘why aren’t they figuring it out’ etc etc and its basically the same spoken interaction but the Stupid part isn’t there because Joe achieved Basic Communication and Joyce has also scraped a pass.
    And like, both of them are still doing the ‘oh god oh god’ internal monologue, which, excellent. AND ALSO Joe is definitely terrified right but everytime he says something totally normal that a person can nevertheless die inside over, Joyce comes barrelling out of the gate with something WAY OBJECTIVELY WEIRDER AND LESS NORMAL and I like that she gets to feel relatively comfortable because she’s informed on the present emotional stakes and landscape, and Joe gets to feel relatively comfortable because as terrible as his self-concept is, On Top Of normal crush anxiety, Joyce is Weirder. Everytime he says a thing, any awkwardness is immediately dwarfed and also Joyce does and says more of the things that he likes about her. What a killer position to be in. imagine.

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