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by David M Willis on August 6, 2023 at 12:01 am
  • 04 – But Don't Give Yourself Away
└ Tags: amber, asher, ethan

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    August 6, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    FUCK THAT TRAUMA

    • Rose by Any Other Name
      Rose by Any Other Name
      August 6, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

      Woooo! Hooo!
      **waves flags, lets off air horns**

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      August 6, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

      MAKE! BAD! CHOICES!

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      August 6, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

      What if ignoring the trauma, and making poor life choices backfire and give him new trauma?

      But what are the odds of that?

      • Masumi
        Masumi
        August 6, 2023 at 6:48 am | #

        What if the attempt at making bad life decisions backfires and they’re actually good for each other? XD

        • Vanessa
          Vanessa
          August 6, 2023 at 2:14 pm | #

          We haven’t seen Ethan this lively and enthused since before the time skip! This might actually be a breakthrough for him. But is Asher going to pull a Walky on him here and induce guilt by invoking Billie? Asher should have broken up with her but he probably didn’t.

          • elebenty
            elebenty
            August 6, 2023 at 4:40 pm | #

            Or is she there in his room, and he’ll have to introduce her?

      • Wizard
        Wizard
        August 6, 2023 at 11:48 pm | #

        Probability approaches unity.

    • James
      James
      August 6, 2023 at 12:40 am | #

      He’s certainly about to try.

    • bleepbloop
      bleepbloop
      August 6, 2023 at 12:52 am | #

      Literally!

    • Mr. Random
      Mr. Random
      August 6, 2023 at 1:05 am | #

      No, not like that!

    • clif
      clif
      August 6, 2023 at 1:17 am | #

      Damn, Amber has become good at manipulating people. Maybe she has learned from her inner Mike.

      • pig
        pig
        August 6, 2023 at 8:24 am | #

        You think she did this on purpose? I thought she was genuinely warning Ethan away from Asher.

        • Vanessa
          Vanessa
          August 6, 2023 at 2:15 pm | #

          I thought she was honestly doing her duty to warn him off. I think she’s surprised.

    • Golden Yak
      Golden Yak
      August 6, 2023 at 3:15 am | #

      Ethan: “Fuck trauma, and fuck me!“

  2. Cmasta1992
    Cmasta1992
    August 6, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    Noooooo

    • Rose by Any Other Name
      Rose by Any Other Name
      August 6, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

      Yeeeessss

      • Doctor_Who
        Doctor_Who
        August 6, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

        Perhaaaaps

        • Kyrik Michalowski
          Kyrik Michalowski
          August 6, 2023 at 12:32 am | #

          Maaaaaaaaaybe.

          • Cmasta1992
            Cmasta1992
            August 6, 2023 at 1:11 am | #

            I don’t know? Can you repeat the question
            YOU’RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME NOW

            • Kyrik Michalowski
              Kyrik Michalowski
              August 6, 2023 at 1:46 am | #

              Well done, I can always appreciate some They Might Be Giants.

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        August 6, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

        YEEEEESSSSSSS

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      August 6, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

      Yeeeees

      • RassilonTDavros
        RassilonTDavros
        August 6, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

        Dangit, ninja’d.

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      August 6, 2023 at 12:28 am | #

      Tbh, I’m fine with it.

    • Dday
      Dday
      August 6, 2023 at 12:37 am | #

      Yes… Ha ha ha… YES!

      • Kim
        Kim
        August 6, 2023 at 4:23 am | #

        xD

  3. newlland(Henryvolt)
    newlland(Henryvolt)
    August 6, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    Ethan: “I’m full on self- destruction right now, I want all the things that are bad for me.”

    Guys I’m telling you, Maximum train wreck is the way to go right now.

    • Rose by Any Other Name
      Rose by Any Other Name
      August 6, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

      Ticket purchased. Popcorn at the ready.

      Also, I am too full of zany one-liners tonight and am pissing off the server with my quips (and the fact that it takes less than a minute to type them).

    • Tan
      Tan
      August 6, 2023 at 12:21 am | #

      Terrible decisions are the best decisions. No regrets for the things you know you’ll regret.

  4. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    August 6, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    … Billie’s going to see this, isn’t she?

    • Caro
      Caro
      August 6, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

      oh id forgotten about billie

      • C.T. Phipps
        C.T. Phipps
        August 6, 2023 at 12:40 am | #

        I mean, what about Jennifer?

        • Mark
          Mark
          August 6, 2023 at 8:44 am | #

          They’re both going to see it.

          • Vanessa
            Vanessa
            August 6, 2023 at 2:16 pm | #

            She’s there, haha, that would be the most hilarious thing.

            • elebenty
              elebenty
              August 6, 2023 at 4:41 pm | #

              She’s got to be in there.

    • Rose by Any Other Name
      Rose by Any Other Name
      August 6, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

      It’s time…

      **puts on very dated Professor Chaos costume**

      … for Chaos! Bwahahahaha!!!

    • Doopyboop
      Doopyboop
      August 6, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

      Jennifer will see and approach while doing a slow clap. “Finally! God, you really had me going with that ‘I’ll do whatever you say my queen’ crap. Good to see you being rebellious, Asher! Finally, some good relationship drama and it’s all mine…!”

      “B-but I don’t wanna cheat on you–”

      “CHEAT ON ME WITH ETHAN OR WE’RE THROUGH”

      • a/snow/mous/e
        a/snow/mous/e
        August 6, 2023 at 1:43 am | #

        She just needs unhealthy relationship dynamics to really feel loved.

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      August 6, 2023 at 12:29 am | #

      This is the weirdest way for Jennifer to find Amber relatable.

    • AlexaSpuds
      AlexaSpuds
      August 6, 2023 at 5:46 am | #

      the “Billie returning to her ex” arc is ready to take off after this twist was launched, and I’m all for it

      • Meagan
        Meagan
        August 6, 2023 at 5:16 pm | #

        But Ruth is with Jason now.

        • Purblebirb
          Purblebirb
          August 6, 2023 at 5:45 pm | #

          *chanting* Throuple! Throuple! Throuple!

  5. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    August 6, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    I mean “hot” I guess.

  6. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    August 6, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    Jennifer: “I wish Asher woulddo something to remind me less of Walky.”

    Monkey’s Paw: (curls finger)

    • Angel
      Angel
      August 6, 2023 at 12:25 am | #

      i mean i think walky has admitted that ethan was good looking at some point? tho that would be hilarious if jen vents to walky/lucy and like “oh ethan? I get it, dude’s hot” “walky! >o”

      • cbwroses
        cbwroses
        August 6, 2023 at 1:45 am | #

        He admitted that Jacob was hot at Joyce’s party.
        I don’t remember if he said the same about Ethan, but it wouldn’t be surprising.

        • Mark
          Mark
          August 6, 2023 at 8:50 am | #

          Dude A saying dude B is hot does not necessarily mean that A is attracted to B; it can mean A thinks “B has plenty of what it takes to attract the ladies” (or whatever B is into).

  7. Thag Simmons
    Thag Simmons
    August 6, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    Does this count as an act of self-harm?

    • Angel
      Angel
      August 6, 2023 at 12:33 am | #

      Depends on what asher does. otherwise it’s no diff than any of his previous ‘hookups’/makeouts with random dorm students lol. Only risk is a potential std tho i’d hope at that age there wouldn’t be too many ppl that’d have it or them getting access to condoms and disease tests every month or so

      • Comic.phile
        Comic.phile
        August 6, 2023 at 9:07 pm | #

        When I was in college there was an absolutely massive outbreak of gonorrhea at a nearby university leading people to joke they had their own strain of it. People that young often tend to just think they’re invincible, and when people are drunk they’re less likely to use protection. Thankfully Ethan and Asher are not drunk. And hopefully they keep things all wrapped up lol.

    • GholaHalleck
      GholaHalleck
      August 6, 2023 at 12:40 am | #

      Only if he bottoms without proper prep time.

    • Imogen
      Imogen
      August 6, 2023 at 2:18 am | #

      Yeah, self-destructive behavior and deliberately bad choices are definitely in the pantheon.

  8. Lumino
    Lumino
    August 6, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    Ya know, I didn’t expect Ethan to take the crown for “Most self destructive decision” but here we are.

    • Angel
      Angel
      August 6, 2023 at 12:25 am | #

      Grief/trauma is a helluva drug

    • C.T. Phipps
      C.T. Phipps
      August 6, 2023 at 12:40 am | #

      Depends on whether Mike was killed by his own injuries or the cop finished him off.

    • Nono
      Nono
      August 6, 2023 at 1:06 am | #

      Does Sal deciding to rob the store count?

    • Wraithy2773
      Wraithy2773
      August 6, 2023 at 8:22 am | #

      What exactly is self-destructive about this?

      Asher did a shitty thing that put Ethan in harm’s way, yes. But that was when these two were thirteen, and they’re half again as old as that now. Ethan’s shown that the experience, while hardly pleasant, isn’t something that’s tearing him up inside either, as seen by his interactions with Sal pre time-skip.

      • Vanessa
        Vanessa
        August 6, 2023 at 2:29 pm | #

        Yup, this just seems like sad Ethan giving way to the old horny random-hookups Ethan. He’s not about to marry the guy. Just because Amber is traumatized by something that happened when she was 13 doesn’t mean Ethan has to care almost ten years later. With Walky it took one punch, with Ethan it just takes one fuck. As for the more recent mob entanglements and violence, Ethan isn’t aware of that and maybe it won’t come up.

        • eskimolos
          eskimolos
          August 6, 2023 at 5:59 pm | #

          I mean Ethan is the one who was held at knife point, has he got nothing to work through after that?

          • Wraithy2773
            Wraithy2773
            August 6, 2023 at 7:07 pm | #

            It didn’t happen to him last week or anything, and didn’t seem to really impact him all that much pre-timeskip.

            Not to say he has nothing regarding that event that he needs help with, trauma isn’t all-or-nothing, after all, but it’s probably pretty low on the list compared to Ethan’s issues with his parents or, ya know, Mike.

      • Lumino
        Lumino
        August 6, 2023 at 6:54 pm | #

        The fact that he sought Asher out PURELY out of spite towards Amber, one of his best friends.

        The fact that Asher is currently in a relationship, something Ethan didn’t even bother asking before he sexually assaulted him.

        And yeah, that last point, SEXUAL ASSAULT. I know this is a comic, but that’s a pretty serious crime.

        • Wraithy2773
          Wraithy2773
          August 6, 2023 at 7:11 pm | #

          I said in the previous comic that I think Amber was a bit out of line in how she was approaching this subject, in a “don’t kiss Asher” manner instead of a “there’s something you should know about Asher” manner. Him doing this to spite a friend that he’s been on the rocks with and is telling him what to do isn’t great, but its, ya know, a very teenage thing to do.

          Fair point on Asher being in a relationship, but its an understandable assumption that idiot teenagers are going to make, “this guy I was flirting with and seems to want me is probably available”. I wouldn’t call that self-destructive.

          ………going at it full-hog, probably with tongue action, without saying anything to Asher first, though, yeah, uh, good point, that’s a good ways over the line >_>.

          • Comic.phile
            Comic.phile
            August 6, 2023 at 9:16 pm | #

            I definitely agree with you on how Amber should have approached it. She’s still not the best with social skills. Ethan has known her the longest though, he knew what she meant. I think this is like, _% mean-spirited spite to take out some of his angry feelings at Amber and try to hurt her, _% sheer horniness, _% genuine attraction to Asher, and _% working through grief about missing Mike right now. (Actual percentage amounts totally unclear to me, but I am guessing those are the variables). Maybe with a good bit of _% wanting to feel like trash, plus _% being turned on by a potential asshole/badass.

    • Chaucer59
      Chaucer59
      August 6, 2023 at 2:45 pm | #

      Dangerous sex is hot. Maybe he just wants something hot.

  9. Yumi
    Yumi
    August 6, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    I, too, have that part of my brain that goes, “Yeah, sounds like that could be traumatic, I’m game.” Luckily, it’s not currently in control. Seeing that decision making in Ethan is concerning.

    BUT

    I want this ship to happen.

  10. I Know Why the Mowed Lawn Screams
    I Know Why the Mowed Lawn Screams
    August 6, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    Emothan has graduated from being shaded in gray to being shaded in “i’m sure nothing will go wrong” pale terracotta

    • Vanessa
      Vanessa
      August 6, 2023 at 2:30 pm | #

      Yes, did he come to life right there? Wow, at least his blood is moving finally.

  11. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    August 6, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    I mean… empowering? in its way.

    Even if definitely not prudent.

  12. NGPZ
    NGPZ
    August 6, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    OH YEAH!!!! 🤩🏳️‍🌈

    • Renshear Blade
      Renshear Blade
      August 6, 2023 at 12:38 am | #

      *offers Kool-aid*

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        August 6, 2023 at 12:52 am | #

        No thanks, already brought my own

  13. cbwroses
    cbwroses
    August 6, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    I can’t wait until the consequences of this hits Jennifer.

  14. Jo_cubstar
    Jo_cubstar
    August 6, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    The last panel seems like Asher’s not quite sure about this

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      August 6, 2023 at 12:25 am | #

      It is hard for me to tell, too. His body and hands give the impression of shock, but his eyes look closer to how Willis draws characters in the throws of contented lust than those of shock and I think he is getting some tongue action – which would suggest at least a few seconds had passed. I also can’t tell if his body is angled backwards because he is pulling away when hugged or if the impact of Ethan’s sudden embrace has pushed him back upon his weakened knees.

    • Angel
      Angel
      August 6, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

      i mean other than being half drunk at a frat bro party where you’ve done it before, most ppl don’t expect someone they just met to start making out with them. Even as a sudden kiss a tongue is a bit much but i never saw the appeal of french kissing (if i had a partner that wanted to i guess i’d indulge but i’d def want them to use mouthwash beforehand)

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        August 6, 2023 at 1:10 am | #

        I don’t really get the appeal of kissing in general, but I especially don’t get it when it involves someone putting their tongue in my mouth. Why would I want another tongue in my mouth? I already have one, which is the appropriate number of tongues per mouth.

        • eh, whatever
          eh, whatever
          August 6, 2023 at 4:22 am | #

          As far as I understand (which isn’t farther than you can throw it), some people use the tongue as a metaphor for another body part with a hydrostatic skeleton, and then they get off on the metaphor.

          • morleuca
            morleuca
            August 6, 2023 at 8:43 am | #

            It has been explained to me that the underside of the tongue has a similar mouthful to that body part, at least it does if the body is operating on a testosterone based system. If there has been a switch to an estrogen OS, the mouth feel becomes different.

        • Mark
          Mark
          August 6, 2023 at 8:58 am | #

          I’m beginning to suspect that the sense of intimacy is yet another dimension of personal relationships orthogonal to sex andromance. Because the tongue is very personal, and such kissing can be quite an expression of intimacy if both partners find it so. It’s a sharing of privacy for both, no matter which tongue it is. But I can well understand that it doesn’t do this for everyone.

    • Wraithy2773
      Wraithy2773
      August 6, 2023 at 8:26 am | #

      …I mean, its hard to tell, given that Ethan’s kinda in the way, but that looks like a bedroom eye in the final panel, not a shocked eye.

      We’ll see tomorrow, most likely!

      That is, unless we cut back to Sal and Danny for a bit >_>.

      • Vanessa
        Vanessa
        August 6, 2023 at 2:31 pm | #

        Fingers crossed, I think Asher looks into it too!

        • Vanessa
          Vanessa
          August 6, 2023 at 2:31 pm | #

          Dorothy should have tried this method instead!

  15. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    August 6, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    So is the running theme just having relationship plans that immediately back fire? Cause this is like the third time it’s happened.

    • clif
      clif
      August 6, 2023 at 1:24 am | #

      Whose relationship plan backfired? Amber’s? She’s given fair warning and has every reason to be happy with this development. Lucy? Hasn’t backfired on her yet. Walky? His hairbrained scheme actually worked. Ethan? Maybe it’s going to crash and go down in flames, but I wouldn’t put money on it.

      • Reaver
        Reaver
        August 6, 2023 at 4:21 am | #

        Jacobs

  16. Joyfulldreams
    Joyfulldreams
    August 6, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

    This is not where I expected this to go!

    But tbh I’m into it. Asher dump Jennifer already and just mess around with Ethan that sounds like fun.

    • BarerMender
      BarerMender
      August 6, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

      Didn’t Jennifer already dump Asher? I’m confused.

      • GholaHalleck
        GholaHalleck
        August 6, 2023 at 12:41 am | #

        Is anyone Jennifer has had sex with, ever REALLY dumped?

      • Mark
        Mark
        August 6, 2023 at 9:01 am | #

        I think Jennifer and Asher themselves are unsure on this point.

        • Vanessa
          Vanessa
          August 6, 2023 at 2:33 pm | #

          Good point, a lot of people would have already thought they were dumped already, but Billie is the queen of mood swings.

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      August 6, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

      I think Asher is already dumped. At least Jennifer made it seem like he is. She told him he’s dump him if he didn’t change the way she wanted, and then he did, and she said he was trying too hard. I’d assume the relationship was over after that. Of course Jen was coached to think rejection is flirting so ….maybe they’re still together?

      • Leorale
        Leorale
        August 6, 2023 at 1:21 am | #

        It’ll be whatever is the most drama for Jennifer. So, I’m placing my bet on: Asher will react like he was dumped, and Jennifer will react like he cheated.

        • Mark
          Mark
          August 6, 2023 at 9:03 am | #

          Indeed: if Asher does not react like he was dumped, then Jennifer will treat him as clueless (and still not make things explicit, because there’s still more juice in this lemon).

    • Thomas
      Thomas
      August 6, 2023 at 4:42 am | #

      Ethan is currently a zombie with a face like an ashtray. He does not seem like fun.

      Rejection is flirting for Jennifer and this is somehow learned behavior? First time I heard that last part. You mean how she was constantly ignored by her parents? Gosh, that makes sense.

      • Mark
        Mark
        August 6, 2023 at 9:05 am | #

        Probably referring to Ruth’s repeated unsuccessful attempts to de-couple from Billie, with following relapses.

        • Sirksome
          Sirksome
          August 6, 2023 at 1:51 pm | #

          Yeah, Ruth and Billie broke up several times over their relationship only for one to come back, or flat out ignore the break up, including the most recent split that actually stuck, Ruth still admitting she hypocritically still wanted Billie to find a way back to her despite completely, physically, shutting her out.

          • Vanessa
            Vanessa
            August 6, 2023 at 2:34 pm | #

            So Billie/Jennifer is probably expecting Asher to come crawling back to her yet again. And expecting to kick him again.

  17. Laura
    Laura
    August 6, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

    Ummm… I think these days you’re supposed to ask permission first. Asher looks excited but also very surprised.

    • Laura
      Laura
      August 6, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

      That, and *Plays “Shut up and kiss me” on the hacked gramophone.*

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      August 6, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

      Perhaps it he approached slowly and it just skipped to the kissing part. Or maybe it comic hyperbole to really sell the gay. I dunno.

      Either way I’m McLovin it (and perhaps a bit high already from the weed lasagna i made, lots of cheddar, real good)

      • Laura
        Laura
        August 6, 2023 at 12:33 am | #

        Yum, sounds delish!

        • NGPZ
          NGPZ
          August 6, 2023 at 12:36 am | #

          😋😊 Cannabis-infused roux + onion + milk + a little mustard = a white sauce that tastes a lot like a fancy cheese apparently

          • Jo_cubstar
            Jo_cubstar
            August 6, 2023 at 12:53 am | #

            You had me until the mustard… I hate mustard so much.

            • NGPZ
              NGPZ
              August 6, 2023 at 1:10 am | #

              🥺 Awe sorry to hear. I know some folks who hate mustard as a condiment but like it as an ingredient in some foods in which you don’t really taste it’s intense sourness — for instance in some cheesy dishes like mac and cheese, it can be used to make cheese taste a good kinda pungent, and peppery too.

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      August 6, 2023 at 12:29 am | #

      I think we are in RomCom mode, were it is typical (and acceptable?? – I’ll let you debate that last part amongst yourselves) that Willis is just playing a little fast and loose with real norms for the sake of passionate drama.

      What is your favorite RomCom? I like Music and Lyrics with Hugh Grant.

      • Laura
        Laura
        August 6, 2023 at 6:07 am | #

        Good question! I dunno.

        …I really like “The Break-Up,” with Vince Vaughn and Jennifer Aniston. I love it because the supposedly wrong ending (couple breaks up) turns out to be the happy ending all along.

        • Laura
          Laura
          August 6, 2023 at 6:24 am | #

          …Anyone else? Favorite rom-com?

          • stacyswirl
            stacyswirl
            August 6, 2023 at 7:05 am | #

            My fave is “While You Were Sleeping”.

          • NGPZ
            NGPZ
            August 6, 2023 at 7:08 am | #

            not a big fan of Western Rom Com films (other than Blended, which i still wanna get around to watching), but I like this one Rom Com manga called NiseKoi where two teenagers have to pretend to date in order to prevent their mafia families from wreaking the city.

          • morleuca
            morleuca
            August 6, 2023 at 8:46 am | #

            Bird on a Wire

  18. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    August 6, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

    Well this is just a car crash waiting to happen.

    …oh fuck one of them is gonna die saving the other from a truck aren’t they

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      August 6, 2023 at 12:21 am | #

      I think Willis is going to hold off on any more characters dying, at least for a while.
      So don’t worry and, if anything with a truck happens it will probably be survivable.

    • cbwroses
      cbwroses
      August 6, 2023 at 1:49 am | #

      I read that as car wash and it made me wonder what new euphemism I was missing.

  19. Ty34er
    Ty34er
    August 6, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

    This is when we find out that he’s completely straight

    • Mark
      Mark
      August 6, 2023 at 9:08 am | #

      That’s what I’m thinking.

  20. k
    k
    August 6, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

    You know, the last few weeks I’ve been wondering which couple was gonna end up having sex, Between Sal/Danny, Joyce/Joe, and Walky/Lucy. It really seemed like at least one of these relationships would take it to the next level by the end of the storyline.

    Then Willis introduces Asher/Ethan in the same storyline and they’re speedrunning through it all. Bless ya Willis.

  21. Joe Moose
    Joe Moose
    August 6, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

    Should we do it? Should we do the correct thing?

    HAHAHAHA! NEVER!! LET’S MAKE BAD DECISIONS!!!

    • Laura
      Laura
      August 6, 2023 at 6:20 am | #

      Plays “Let’s misbehave!” and “Ain’t misbehaving” simultaneously, on the passing car stereo.

  22. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    August 6, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

    So how well is Billie/Jennifer going to react to this? I’m putting money down on a complete meltdown by Billie/Jennifer, and depending on what is said it might be one that also ruins her new social group.

    • Warcodered
      Warcodered
      August 6, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

      I mean does this count on his score for being a bad boy though?

      • Kyrik Michalowski
        Kyrik Michalowski
        August 6, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

        I mean… technically it does, but Billie/Jennifer might find out she doesn’t want that specific type of bad boy. Maybe she’ll realize she was being an ass to Asher just because he expressed some things that Walky also likes, and that somehow made him less desirable. However knowing Billie/Jennifer, I doubt she will ever figure it out.

    • Bash
      Bash
      August 6, 2023 at 3:24 am | #

      I don’t think she wanted Asher to be bad in ways that hurt her, just to be stereotypically cool and increase her social value. That’s why she got so mad when instead of being cool and aloof, he goofed around with Walky.

    • shanunu
      shanunu
      August 6, 2023 at 3:59 am | #

      I think Jennifer was already on the not wanting to date Asher much longer step so maybe this settles it?

  23. Friendly Frankenstein
    Friendly Frankenstein
    August 6, 2023 at 12:20 am | #

    God I love this comic.

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      August 6, 2023 at 12:32 am | #

      Me too!

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        August 6, 2023 at 1:06 am | #

        Yee it’s dumb sometimes but also hella gay and raw and I love it. 😋

        *plays “Dance Like An Idiot” by Lemon Demon on hacked muzak*

  24. k
    k
    August 6, 2023 at 12:21 am | #

    Also I’m “proud” of Ethan for making a decision? Idk if it’s a good one. I don’t even care if it is. But he’s making an active choice to DO something instead of just passively letting life happen to him, and taking that first step can make all the difference.

    • Hazel
      Hazel
      August 6, 2023 at 1:22 am | #

      I was just thinking something similar.

      • Vanessa
        Vanessa
        August 6, 2023 at 2:36 pm | #

        Yes! So nice to see him running around, excited to do something!

  25. not someone else
    not someone else
    August 6, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

    *metal guitar riffs* Fuck yeeeeeeeeeaaaah

  26. Warcodered
    Warcodered
    August 6, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

    That’ll show you……world?

  27. Schpoonman
    Schpoonman
    August 6, 2023 at 12:23 am | #

    You are all now hearing Looney Tunes/Flintstones sound effects when you see Ethan running in the 3rd panel.

    You’re welcome.

    • Dara
      Dara
      August 6, 2023 at 1:07 am | #

      it took a second but then looooooooooooooool

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      August 6, 2023 at 2:26 am | #

      YABBA DABBA DOOOOO AAAAAAAAAAAAAH~<3

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      August 6, 2023 at 5:02 am | #

      OMG, ETHAN IS RUNNING

  28. IniquitousKing
    IniquitousKing
    August 6, 2023 at 12:23 am | #

    … Honestly, I actually hope they work out.

    • Angel
      Angel
      August 6, 2023 at 12:30 am | #

      Might be a bit…iffier? in the real world but idk how many relationships work out with someone hitting on/making a move on someone already in a relationship (even if ethan didn’t rly know before but he is on a beeline of bad decisions so he might not care in the moment even if he’d feel bad about it when he recovers more)

  29. Angel
    Angel
    August 6, 2023 at 12:23 am | #

    Be great for Jen to walk in at this time or already be in his room lol.

    But even if i liked someone i would def be put off at them kissing me out of nowhere versus hugging XD; at least go ‘wanna make out’ or so

  30. k
    k
    August 6, 2023 at 12:25 am | #

    Also also, I just really appreciate that Ethan was like “a bad decision, you say?” And went RUNNING TOWARDS IT.

    • Angel
      Angel
      August 6, 2023 at 12:29 am | #

      makes me wonder if amber wanted it to happen…she seemed fine with telling booster to not get in the way

      or if anything, be better to let booster know the situation and let them handle it rather than amber directly telling ethan to not do it

      • Jo_cubstar
        Jo_cubstar
        August 6, 2023 at 12:57 am | #

        Amber did want it to happen. That’s why she regrets that she had to inform him that it was a terrible idea

        • clif
          clif
          August 6, 2023 at 1:30 am | #

          Thus insuring it would happen. A very Mike move, though maybe not a DOA Mike move.

          • a/snow/mous/e
            a/snow/mous/e
            August 6, 2023 at 2:14 pm | #

            I don’t think she anticipated his reaction, but she may not be entirely displeased with it.

            • a/snow/mous/e
              a/snow/mous/e
              August 6, 2023 at 2:15 pm | #

              (I mean, once she learns about … whatever develops from this.)

  31. Dot
    Dot
    August 6, 2023 at 12:25 am | #

    Oh riiiight Ethan’s been on a willfully self-destructive kick

  32. BBCC
    BBCC
    August 6, 2023 at 12:28 am | #

    Welp, this is gonna explode in like sixteen different ways. I’m here for it.

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      August 6, 2023 at 12:31 am | #

      What are the other 14?

      Sorry.

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      August 6, 2023 at 12:36 am | #

      I wish this would end well for Ethan, at least.

      Asher and Billie/Jennifer are not my concern really. I don’t care how this ends for them, and I would probably enjoy it more if it ends poorly for them. Just spare Ethan.

      • Vanessa
        Vanessa
        August 6, 2023 at 2:41 pm | #

        It would be good for Asher to stop dealing with Billie and Raidah’s crap. Time to go hang out with Booster and Amber instead. Nothing good lays down the “Billie marrying into the mob” future! And his horrible relatives would probably disown him for being gay so Raidah would have no further use for him.

  33. Regalli
    Regalli
    August 6, 2023 at 12:30 am | #

    … Well, at least he’s making an informed decision to do this as opposed to doing it, finding out later, and then being traumatized?

    Anyway. *Gets popcorn*

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      August 6, 2023 at 12:39 am | #

      I suppose knowing that the choices, and actively choosing one you believe to be bad for you, is a form of control over your life.

      Poor life choices: They suck, but you already knew that.

      • Kyrik Michalowski
        Kyrik Michalowski
        August 6, 2023 at 12:41 am | #

        Also can I have some popcorn? I didn’t bring any.

        • Regalli
          Regalli
          August 6, 2023 at 12:46 am | #

          Of course! Here’s the bowl.

          • NGPZ
            NGPZ
            August 6, 2023 at 12:51 am | #

            Thank you Regalli for making me smile. 😊

            • clif
              clif
              August 6, 2023 at 1:31 am | #

              No popcorn; just the bowl

              • milu
                milu
                August 6, 2023 at 4:53 am | #

                PLS POPCORN?
                NO BOWL!
                ONLY POPCORN

                • Laura
                  Laura
                  August 6, 2023 at 6:11 am | #

                  Just pop it straight into my mouth! (That’s how I used to eat pop corn as a kid… just eat it straight from the hot air popper.)

                • clif
                  clif
                  August 6, 2023 at 7:31 am | #

                  Wow! I’m extremely envious I never thought of that.

                • Laura
                  Laura
                  August 6, 2023 at 7:39 am | #

                  Never too late!

                • Clif
                  Clif
                  August 6, 2023 at 11:29 pm | #

                  Well. I would have to go out and buy a hot air popper. I assume that they still make them.

                  The tricky bit would be explaining to my wife why I’m suddenly buying a hot air popper. I mean I’m sure there is a completely logical reason why we need one; I’m just not sure what it is yet.

                • Laura
                  Laura
                  August 7, 2023 at 12:46 am | #

                  Oh, yeah, Target sells them, for one.
                  See, e.g.:
                  https://www.target.com/s?searchTerm=popcorn+poppers&sortBy=PriceLow
                  Just filter out the microwave stuff and look only for hot air electric poppers.

                  And… I mean, who DOESN’T need a hot air popcorn popper!? Talk about a healthy treat! Just check out this powerhouse of low-cal nutrition!

                  https://www.urmc.rochester.edu/encyclopedia/content.aspx?contenttypeid=76&contentid=19034-1

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      August 6, 2023 at 12:43 am | #

      🍿🥤😋

    • Wraithy2773
      Wraithy2773
      August 6, 2023 at 8:17 am | #

      I’m curious why people think Ethan would be traumatized by finding out that Asher had an impact on that time Sal held a knife to his throat, when he’s gotten on well with Sal directly.

      Yeah, Asher Did A Bad Thing… when he was flippin’ THIRTEEN. It remains shitty for Amber to hold that thing over him perpetually, disregarding any possibility that Asher changed in the last third of his entire lifetime.

  34. Marisa Mockery
    Marisa Mockery
    August 6, 2023 at 12:34 am | #

    CONSENT ETHAN THAT IS A THING

    • Bash
      Bash
      August 6, 2023 at 3:22 am | #

      People don’t usually ask for permission to kiss someone. Usually there is time to pull away or stop the kiss if you don’t want it to happen.

      • poofdepoof
        poofdepoof
        August 6, 2023 at 3:33 am | #

        Only one person in my life has kissed me without asking first, movie style, and I found the surprise element surprisingly unpleasant. The anticipation and courage building between knowing you’re gonna kiss and kissing is fun!

        • Laura
          Laura
          August 6, 2023 at 6:18 am | #

          I recently watched “The Seven Year Itch” … seems like a real parody of misogynistic violence! But one thing I did love was when the male lead tries to do a movie-style kiss ‘very fast, and very hard,” and even announces it as such in advance using a fake French accent, and it backfires SPECTACULARLY and he feels terrible about it the next day.
          I was so sad when Marilyn Monroe’s character says, “Don’t worry. That kind of thing happens to me all the time.”

      • Leorale
        Leorale
        August 6, 2023 at 4:14 am | #

        It’s great to ask!

        Many people lean in for a long time with eye contact — like Dina and Becky’s first kiss. They’re asking nonverbally, checking in the whole time that they’re both doing this thing. That seems to work OK as long as nobody rushes this and everyone present is good at / prefers nonverbal communication.

        But, I strongly prefer if the other person or I have sexily declared “I really want to kiss you” first. Or, “may I kiss you,” with bedroom eyes and in a sexy voice. So far, I have only had people react to this as extremely charming and attractive, so, I highly recommend it.

        • Thomas
          Thomas
          August 6, 2023 at 5:08 am | #

          Look, I can speak the words, but asking for “bedroom eyes” and “a sexy voice” is a bit much. I don’t know how to do those. I mean, I’m already straining at the prolonged eye contact.

          Conversely, someone going “Look, I’m doing the sexy thing from the movies that you must now find sexy!” can be a bit of a turn-off with how artificial and performative it all is. Am I being difficult?

          • Laura
            Laura
            August 6, 2023 at 6:13 am | #

            No, not difficult at all. You do what is comfortable for you! 🙂

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      August 6, 2023 at 4:59 am | #

      That’s the thing I don’t know how to think. It’s great this generation finally have this talk about consent. Finally people agree that asking before advance is a good idea.

      • Nathan
        Nathan
        August 6, 2023 at 12:25 pm | #

        What scene is your Dora avatar from? I recognize it but just can’t quite remember.

        • Amós Batista
          Amós Batista
          August 6, 2023 at 12:28 pm | #

          I’ll find it today, hold on.

          • Amós Batista
            Amós Batista
            August 6, 2023 at 6:00 pm | #

            Here. Dora, the real magick girl

  35. C.T. Phipps
    C.T. Phipps
    August 6, 2023 at 12:39 am | #

    Are we sure Ethan isn’t a vampire? It would explain a lot.

    Is he watching Asher in his sleep?

    • Aslan
      Aslan
      August 6, 2023 at 1:50 am | #

      Their* sleep

      Unless you mean that Ethan has some sort of somnial Panopticon by which he observes Booster mid-slumber, which would be a cool vampire power indeed

      • Aslan
        Aslan
        August 6, 2023 at 1:50 am | #

        Oops, totally misread your comment lmao I’m tired my bad

  36. Axel
    Axel
    August 6, 2023 at 12:40 am | #

    Eh, as long as he’s informed.

  37. Azu
    Azu
    August 6, 2023 at 12:51 am | #

    Ethan slightly leaving the frame of the second panel kinda makes it look like he’s ascending, floating upwards (toward terrible decisions).

  38. Victor Riley
    Victor Riley
    August 6, 2023 at 1:08 am | #

    “oh wait… I should have used REVERSE psychology.”

    “Hey, Ethan… it’d be a great idea to go try and bone that half-redeemed villain-in-training.”

    • clif
      clif
      August 6, 2023 at 1:33 am | #

      She should have used, or she did use?

  39. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    August 6, 2023 at 1:08 am | #

    Me when I decide to draw a miscellaneous ship.

    • milu
      milu
      August 6, 2023 at 4:59 am | #

      “these 2 characters exist, therefore they should bang” 👍

  40. Nono
    Nono
    August 6, 2023 at 1:09 am | #

    Man, hot kiss but I wish Ethan was in his healthy stage than looking like he needs 3 straight days of sleep.

    • Miri
      Miri
      August 6, 2023 at 6:55 am | #

      Well, maybe epic makeouts/sexy times then a more natural, happier sleep than he’s managed recently, having found somebody to bone who could potentially be as bad for him as Mike was..?

      • Nono
        Nono
        August 6, 2023 at 7:40 am | #

        To be fair, some of the best and longest natural sleeps I’ve had was after, er, ending a dry spell.

  41. Christron5000
    Christron5000
    August 6, 2023 at 1:12 am | #

    Oh so this motherfucker chose violence huh?

    RESPECT.

  42. Freezer
    Freezer
    August 6, 2023 at 1:16 am | #

    BAD DECISIONS! GETCHER BAD DECISIONS HYAH!

  43. Aslan
    Aslan
    August 6, 2023 at 1:25 am | #

    God DAMN, Willis!

    • clif
      clif
      August 6, 2023 at 1:35 am | #

      It’s traditional to shake your fist.

      • Aslan
        Aslan
        August 6, 2023 at 1:45 am | #

        My fist is only shaking from how tightly it’s clutching my pearls at the drama of it all

        • clif
          clif
          August 6, 2023 at 7:34 am | #

          That will work.

  44. reed
    reed
    August 6, 2023 at 2:06 am | #

    my toxic trait has been wanting to see ethan get some no matter what. i’ll allow this.

    • Dara
      Dara
      August 6, 2023 at 3:12 am | #

      perfect icon is perfect xD

  45. Rognik
    Rognik
    August 6, 2023 at 2:15 am | #

    And this is when Asher says he doesn’t like Ethan that way…

    • Bash
      Bash
      August 6, 2023 at 3:20 am | #

      Nah, I doubt it. It may come up that he’s sort of still in a relationship with someone else.

  46. Chris Phoenix
    Chris Phoenix
    August 6, 2023 at 2:51 am | #

    I think Willis was like, “This strip is named Dumbing of Age but since the semester break almost everyone’s getting wise and sensible! I don’t want to rename it. What can I do…? Walky’s more about hijinks than actually dumb. Who can be dumb so I can keep the title… Oh, Ethan! OK, what’s the dumbest thing I can make him do?”

  47. ADLegend21
    ADLegend21
    August 6, 2023 at 3:01 am | #

    There is….a lot to unpack here.

    • Dara
      Dara
      August 6, 2023 at 3:13 am | #

      No, that’s lesbians, and no, that’s second date. ^_^

      • Thomas
        Thomas
        August 6, 2023 at 3:33 pm | #

        Such a perfect joke! +1

  48. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    August 6, 2023 at 3:49 am | #

    Well I didn’t expect it to happen THAT quickly. Jennifer’s gonna be so p-i-double-s-d.

  49. Nicoleandmaggie
    Nicoleandmaggie
    August 6, 2023 at 3:58 am | #

    That’s not what enthusiastic consent looks like! Weren’t you listening at orientation?!?

    • Nicoleandmaggie
      Nicoleandmaggie
      August 6, 2023 at 7:47 am | #

      Ask if the person wants tea before shoving it down their throat. (Tea and consent video is the best.)

    • Mark
      Mark
      August 6, 2023 at 9:19 am | #

      Was anyone listening?

      • Nicoleandmaggie
        Nicoleandmaggie
        August 6, 2023 at 4:36 pm | #

        Re: was anyone listening— they sure were at mine because one of the boys got into a huge argument about how it wasn’t sexy to have to ask and would definitely kill the mood. Ugh. (He is very wrong.)

    • Bash
      Bash
      August 6, 2023 at 9:48 am | #

      What does enthusiastic consent look like for a kiss? Real question.

      • Sam
        Sam
        August 6, 2023 at 11:40 am | #

        It looks like leaning into it, their body language will likely be more relaxed, interested and engaged, small physical contact like holding their hand will be accepted and reciprocated etc..

        Tensing and leaning back can both indicate surprise and a desire to escape. Pulling out of your grip, shrinking away, looking at the nearest exit frequently = I want to leave NOW.

        If you’re hanging out with someone and their feet are pointing at the door or away from you, rather than towards you, even if their upper body is directed at you, pay attention to that. People are better at masking their upper body’s reactions while they don’t think to lie with their feet.

        • Bash
          Bash
          August 6, 2023 at 12:40 pm | #

          I think that level of detail might be a bit much for a panel-by-panel comic.

          • Sam
            Sam
            August 6, 2023 at 1:31 pm | #

            I wasn’t talking about in a comic strip. The most you’ll see in a comic strip usually is reciprocation, leaning back in shock/surprise/lack of interest depending on person or pulling out of someone’s grip.

            But for real life, there are totally non-verbal ways to tell if someone is interested and consenting, and if unsure, you should telegraph it with words or by asking.

            • Nicoleandmaggie
              Nicoleandmaggie
              August 6, 2023 at 4:34 pm | #

              Verbal is great! If you’re not close enough that you can ask then you’re not close enough to actually do. Consent is SEXY.

            • Bash
              Bash
              August 7, 2023 at 2:36 am | #

              I meant more in the context of the comic strip. Because OP was saying that’s not what enthusiastic consent looks like, but I’m not sure what they expected in this context.

  50. Acher4
    Acher4
    August 6, 2023 at 4:03 am | #

    Ethan just running head fast, on ice, towards the ‘best’ decisions.

    Hot though 😛

  51. ktbear
    ktbear
    August 6, 2023 at 4:10 am | #

    Is this where we find out Asher is not in fact gay, or even bi, and Ethan ends up getting stabbed? *dashes off to check Patreon*

  52. Maggie
    Maggie
    August 6, 2023 at 4:24 am | #

    Is Asher even into guys? Because this would be a super awakened time to discover he’s straight.

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      August 6, 2023 at 4:29 am | #

      Willis has given a huge hint some pages before. Asher was clearly attracted to him

      • Amós Batista
        Amós Batista
        August 6, 2023 at 4:31 am | #

        Starting from here. Asher’s is bi.

        • Bryy
          Bryy
          August 6, 2023 at 4:53 am | #

          And Jennifer, who has extreme internal homophobia, is gonna throw a fit.

          • NGPZ
            NGPZ
            August 6, 2023 at 5:59 am | #

            There’s good news tho.

            The more comically disastrous the aftermath, the more grist for my gamemaking mill 😛 🎮

          • Nono
            Nono
            August 6, 2023 at 7:39 am | #

            I don’t know if it’s so much homophobia as “I’m not WEIRD”.

            And there can be a lot of complex reasons for that. Especially for a biracial youth who basically coasted on money-bought popularity.

          • clif
            clif
            August 6, 2023 at 7:55 am | #

            Jennifer has extreme internal homophiobia? Are we reading the same comic? Or could you provide a link to the strip where this was established?

            Jennifer has a strong bias towards considering herself normal. And if she experiments with girls, that is a completely normal thing to do. But since she likes boys, that proves she’s straight. Jennifer has an advanced ability to lie to herself. That’s a long way from extreme internal homophobia.

  53. Amós Batista
    Amós Batista
    August 6, 2023 at 4:28 am | #

    You know what will be funny? Asher and Ethan having sex before everyone.

    As everybody is expecting Joyce and Joe, and there’s teo more couples on the row, these two guys kind of get on “first place”, right?

    🍿

    • Nono
      Nono
      August 6, 2023 at 7:38 am | #

      I mean Dina and Becky already beat them.

  54. Bryy
    Bryy
    August 6, 2023 at 4:52 am | #

    Uh…. Ethan….. acknowledging that you are using Asher as a Mike Surrogate is really shitty.

  55. CianM1301
    CianM1301
    August 6, 2023 at 4:57 am | #

    God damn, just diving straight into it, I see.

  56. hazel
    hazel
    August 6, 2023 at 4:57 am | #

    Look idk but if my friend said I shouldn’t do something and kept centering themselves *and* their own fetishization of everything I do, I’d be inclined to be reactionary about it.

    What else was Ethan going to do? Let Amber’s trauma get in the way of bone-town with a guy he’s only known positively? She took the robbery way harder than he did, and he should be allowed to try to move on if he wants!

    • Wraithy2773
      Wraithy2773
      August 6, 2023 at 8:19 am | #

      And he’s literally met the girl that held a knife to his throat and gotten along fine with her, tense though it was. Why shouldn’t he think that the guy who had a much smaller part to play in that night may also have changed for the better?

    • Bash
      Bash
      August 6, 2023 at 9:44 am | #

      I think Amber has trouble understanding that the robbery was never a big deal for Ethan. She warned Ethan because she thought he would be upset.

    • Derek
      Derek
      August 6, 2023 at 7:10 pm | #

      “Look idk but if my friend said I shouldn’t do something and kept centering themselves *and* their own fetishization of everything I do, I’d be inclined to be reactionary about it.”
      YUP, this exactly!!

  57. milu
    milu
    August 6, 2023 at 5:09 am | #

    Asher: wow! That was sudden, to what do i owe this pleasure?
    Ethan: my best friend’s advice 👍

  58. milu
    milu
    August 6, 2023 at 5:16 am | #

    Amber’s cooch: no! noooooooo!!!!!
    Amber, looking down, grinning viciously: oooh, yes

    • PirateTawnee
      PirateTawnee
      August 6, 2023 at 5:54 am | #

      Ethan is such a good friend to do this for Amber.

      • clif
        clif
        August 6, 2023 at 7:59 am | #

        Amber is such a good friend to do this for Ethan.

        • Taffy
          Taffy
          August 6, 2023 at 8:33 am | #

          Amber is Ethan.

  59. Da Boy
    Da Boy
    August 6, 2023 at 5:16 am | #

    Oh man that second panel, that’s the face of a man who is ready to make so many terrible decisions.

  60. saltchocolate
    saltchocolate
    August 6, 2023 at 5:29 am | #

    Run, don’t walk

  61. AGV
    AGV
    August 6, 2023 at 5:29 am | #

    Looooool go get him, tiger.

    I wonder if Asher will dump Jennifer right after this hookup.

    • DarkoNeko
      DarkoNeko
      August 6, 2023 at 6:27 am | #

      Maybe Jennie is still pouting, maybe she’s right behind Asher at this moment, which would be hilarious (for me. Poor Ethan)

  62. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    August 6, 2023 at 6:27 am | #

    They only met once but Asher already told Ethan where he lived during that conv eh ? 😀

    • clif
      clif
      August 6, 2023 at 8:00 am | #

      Well, when they walked back from class…

      • clif
        clif
        August 6, 2023 at 8:02 am | #

        Or more seriously, stuff happens between panels. Ethan could have asked the RA or anyone who lived there.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      August 6, 2023 at 8:30 am | #

      There are so many missing panels of Ethan running from building to building, knocking on doors.

  63. Taffy
    Taffy
    August 6, 2023 at 8:15 am | #

    Fuck it, what could go wrong? This is a positive development.

  64. Stephen Nedland
    Stephen Nedland
    August 6, 2023 at 8:22 am | #

    Did she purposefully leave out that Asher is in a relationship, with Jennifer? I’m not the biggest Jennifer fan, but this would be cruel, if Amber deliberately left that piece of information, out. You don’t have to like her, but you shouldn’t be putting pain and humiliation on her.

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      August 6, 2023 at 8:28 am | #

      Kinda seems like that’s more Asher’s responsibility than Amber’s.

    • Bash
      Bash
      August 6, 2023 at 9:47 am | #

      Does Amber know about that? I think it may have come up with Sal but I’m not sure if she remembers.

    • Sam
      Sam
      August 6, 2023 at 11:26 am | #

      I don’t think Amber knows. Amber does not hang out with Jennifer and while they did come to at least one roller derby thing… that was for Sal. Amber likely didn’t even notice them.

      • Bash
        Bash
        August 6, 2023 at 12:36 pm | #

        I think after that scene there was a conversation with Sal about Asher not being right for Jennifer. But that might have been with Amazi-girl, and then Amber was looking at her phone afterwards. So I’m not sure how much it registered.

        • Sam
          Sam
          August 6, 2023 at 1:18 pm | #

          Yeah, pretty sure that was with Amazi-Girl. And a thing with alters is, even if both present for an event, what they remember distinctly can be different. So it is possible even if Amber was nearish or also present, she might not remember that specific thing.

    • tunasammich
      tunasammich
      August 6, 2023 at 12:39 pm | #

      I mean, it’s totally reasonable for her to expect him to ask before just kissing someone

  65. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    August 6, 2023 at 8:28 am | #

    Amber doesn’t know what to do, now that the depressive self-destruction is on the other foot.

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      August 6, 2023 at 8:32 am | #

      Film it for views?

  66. Valerie
    Valerie
    August 6, 2023 at 8:49 am | #

    Jennifer/Ruth is BACK ON THE TABLE, baybay!

  67. Pocky
    Pocky
    August 6, 2023 at 9:29 am | #

    On one hand; I very much still expect some crazy stuff to happen when the other shoe drops with Asher and his crime related background. . .

    But on the other hand; Jennifer kinda could use some more knocks against heir new found ego.

  68. Thanatos
    Thanatos
    August 6, 2023 at 9:33 am | #

    Take chances, get messy, MAKE MISTAKES!!

    • reed
      reed
      August 6, 2023 at 9:41 am | #

      miss frizzle?

      • Josh Spicer
        Josh Spicer
        August 6, 2023 at 12:30 pm | #

        I don’t know if she would be the kind to support her ideology being used in this manner, but it’s the thought that counts as much as it is the Count that thoughts.

  69. Hof1991
    Hof1991
    August 6, 2023 at 10:49 am | #

    As Charles said, don’t choose a partner ( or hookup) to please or displease someone else. This is not gonna end well.

    • Bash
      Bash
      August 6, 2023 at 12:38 pm | #

      I think Ethan has survivor’s guilt and is throwing himself at Asher in a self-destructive manner. He didn’t say “so getting with Asher will piss you off”.

  70. Vicky
    Vicky
    August 6, 2023 at 12:30 pm | #

    You know, I used to like Ethan.

    • Woof McGee
      Woof McGee
      August 6, 2023 at 9:12 pm | #

      Yaknow – I can remember when he was an empathetic character who got a lot of screen time.

  71. John
    John
    August 6, 2023 at 1:14 pm | #

    Jesus fucking Christ, Ethan, GO TO THERAPY!!!

    • Rocketboy1313
      Rocketboy1313
      August 6, 2023 at 2:25 pm | #

      I don’t think having sex with his therapist would help the situation.

  72. Joy
    Joy
    August 6, 2023 at 4:22 pm | #

    Unironically love this

  73. Grayfinity
    Grayfinity
    August 6, 2023 at 4:25 pm | #

    Oh boy, 🎵0 to 63.5🎵

  74. Dante
    Dante
    August 6, 2023 at 4:33 pm | #

    Amber tried. She legitimately tried, despite how hot she would’ve found it.

    Luckily for her, Ethan is in his ONLY BAD CHOICES CAN MAKE ME FEEL ALIVE phase and woke up, for the first time on the semester. He ran towards it. His inner slut (affectionate) resurfaced with every step.

    And Asher was surprised, but look at those bedroom eyes. Homeboy is INTO IT.

    This will be CAPITAL D DRAMA™. INJECT IT INTO MY VEINS.

  75. Lysbeth
    Lysbeth
    August 6, 2023 at 4:59 pm | #

    Well… uuuh… good news for her cooch I guess?

  76. Derek
    Derek
    August 6, 2023 at 6:56 pm | #

    I didn’t have time to reply yesterday, but regarding my comment that she’s not achieving character growth because she’s vocalizing her sexual fantasies (to someone who doesn’t want to hear about it) SLIGHTLY LESS.

    it’s not demanding perfection to say she shouldn’t be sexually creepy towards someone she calls a friend. in fact, it’s the BARE MINIMUM.
    I’m surprised I got more than one comment mentioning perfection. Do people really think “stop being shitty” means the same as “be perfect immediately”?

  77. Derek
    Derek
    August 6, 2023 at 7:02 pm | #

    Also @cain who did a longer reply (which is appreciated)
    1. She doesn’t doesn’t do it in private and that’s my entire problem with her. She literally shouted it at Ethan.
    2. Ethan shut the door on her face when she mentioned this. I think that’s a pretty good indicator.
    3. Amber has gotten a lot worse since the beginning of her university year. She used to say that she lives in fear of social rules. Now she’s shouting about her sexual fantasies. I’m all for sexual liberation, but there are limits. it stops at telling people that they’re the subject of sexual fantasies when they don’t want to hear about that.

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      August 6, 2023 at 7:11 pm | #

      Number three sounds exactly like an example of character growth to me? But I guess some people use that term in an exclusively positive way. Not that she’s not being creepy about it. I just like when characters develop in ways that aren’t always good. Sometimes people get worse, sometimes for a while.

      Fair enough to be annoyed at a character for it, though.

  78. thumb
    thumb
    August 6, 2023 at 8:57 pm | #

    welcome to Garbage U

  79. Mr D
    Mr D
    August 6, 2023 at 9:29 pm | #

    Ethan just sprinting across to get himself some man loving is cracking me up

  80. elfroyalty
    elfroyalty
    August 6, 2023 at 10:02 pm | #

    that is the fastest ethan has moved since the timeskip

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