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I will personally resist the urge to request a tier for “redraw all the best strips from the last 15 years”, but seriously every one we DO get to see is a privilege. Look at those faces.
Gotta remember that we’re only a few months into Freshman year with a bit of that being a timeskip. At the current rate, we’d be reading DoA for another thirty years or so before we even get to Summer break.
Well, thanks to the timeskip, we’re more than halfway through the freshman year.
We covered almost 7 weeks of the first semester before the timeskip and nearly 3 weeks of the second since. We’d really need another timeskip to get to the summer. Or maybe even Spring Break.
I thought it might be entertaining to go looking for the character reference art that had Joyce wearing each of these and while it is not in fact a sweatervest I definitely came to the same conclusion about the grey diamonds hoodie vest being the sexiest vest she has. The really short black one is also really cute but doesn’t really bring the same energy.
At first I thought the redrawn flashback here might have been “cheating” Dorothy’s expression slightly but nope, it really did look like she was staring at Joyce’s chest in the original scene too. Not sure if that was what 2011-Willis was goin’ for but it sure as hell is what they actually drew.
Sure, but I’m not sure how else Dorothy would be drawn to be looking at Joyce’s sweater vest? She literally has to be looking at either Joyce’s chest or her stomach to see what she’s wearing, and the way Joyce is drawn, her chest is going to get in the way even if Dorothy’s instinct would be to look at her stomach. Like, I don’t think there is a way to draw Dorothy looking at Joyce’s outfit without it looking like she’s looking at her chest. But I guess I’ll eat my words tomorrow if Dorothy starts daydreaming about Joyce’s chest or something.
Erm ackshually, did you know that clothes are worn on the human body??? Making a small, harmless remark about something looking a certain way cannot go uncorrected and must be treated with the utmost literality.
Thank you, Taffy. For a second I worried this remark would go un-remarked-upon and then what would we have done with our collective spare five minutes?
For those who have trouble remembering things from two days ago, I wanna point out that Joyce explicitly asked Dorothy to do this, in no uncertain terms. You can hit the “Previous” button no more than twice and see it.
“Joyce, I’ve decided that the sexiest sweater vest you could wear tonight is the one I’ve excluded from my own body.”
“But you’re wearing all of them. None are excluded.”
“Yes.”
SO I NOTICED THAT DISTINCTIVE BI FLAG SWEATER VEST THAT FOR SOME REASON MATCHES THE ONE FROM THE FLASHBACK.
NOT THAT I’M DRAWING ATTENTION TO THAT, OR THAT THEY ARE SIMILAR BUILDS SO DOTTIE COULD WEAR THE BISEXUAL SWEATER VEST AT A LATER TIME TO COME OUT TO JOYCE WHILE NOT TRYING TO RAIL HER BEFORE JOYCE’S DATE WITH JOE.
I can’t believe Dorothy, in her unhinged attempts to become Joyce’s true dommy mommy, is now invading her closet and has christened herself to be the one deciding what Joyce wears on her date. Dorothy is the Devil!
Oh I will absolutely join that prayer circle. Please Willis, no more “of these two 18 year olds, one is slightly less sheltered than the other and therefore she is a motherly figure, making her attraction to Joyce problematic” comments.
I have been wondering whether “Dorothy is actually ALSO autistic, obviously” would make anyone’s heads explode, because it REALLY increased in volume and frequency after the strip basically confirmed Joyce was.
Oh let me be very clear I’m at most agnostic, this is a nonreligious “pleeeeeaaaase I’m so tired” circle haha, but snacks are always appreciated.
It started with “mom friend” and then it just got. more and more literal, and weirder and weirder. It wasn’t enough for some folks to just say “they have a power imbalance [citation needed], so it’s wrong”; they had to escalate all the way into “Joyce sees Dorothy as a MOM [citation extremely needed], so it’s extra wrong”.
Great, now I’m thinking about Dorothy and Joyce, all cards on the table, no relevant information unknown, All-Access Pass granted by their boyfriends for a one-night show, having a fully consensual hands-on sex ed tutorial with a focus on safe domme/sub dynamics.
That whole shitshow was especially offensive to me, because Dorothy’s not even 20 yet. She’s still barely even half too young for MILF energy (you need to be at least 40, sorry). Motherfuckers wanna skip steps, it’s genuinely fucked up how impatient they are.
She, like the rest of the freshman cast, is younger than Dina (19). She’s not old enough to be anyone’s mom. She’s a Mom Friend, sure, but that just means she makes sure everybody’s, like, hydrated on day trips. It doesn’t mean she’s actually in any sort of position of power.
I guess I shouldn’t say “the rest of the freshman cast”. It’s at least all the girls who were present for the reveal of Dina’s age, though, because that was part of the point.
And now we know Dina had to repeat a grade. So it’s not just a matter of birthday timing.
Dina repeating a grade reminds me that I was almost held back during kindergarten. For me, I was an only child who didn’t have much contact with other kids prior to kindergarten. All my cousins were like 5 states away, and there were like 3 kids in my neighborhood that I knew and played with. So going from that to a classroom of over twenty other kids was a huge change of pace. I was very quiet and didn’t raise my hand to answer questions.
That lead to my teacher assuming I didn’t know the material. She had a meeting with my parents and suggested holding me back a year, which stunned my parents. They sat with me during homework and were able to see I was understanding the material. My mom suggested that I was quiet because I didn’t want to say the wrong thing (which was true!) so she suggested the teacher call on me randomly instead. It worked, and I was never at risk for being held back again, but it’s a shame Dina didn’t have that chance.
One day, I’ll watch an episode of Scrubs on a TV that’s already playing it. One of the characters will say one of the things that gets noticed here as a Scrubs quote and I’ll get the joke.
Ok, weird question… What exactly is Dorothy doing in panel 1. She has her hand up against the door. But is she closing it? If a, it’s a rather awkward way to push a door shut.
Clearly after Joyce left the room Dorothy took a minute to pursue her passion for flamenco dancing, as she always does whenever she is in a room by herself.
I thought she might be re-creating the Tom Mason scenes from Plan 9 from Outer Space.
(In that movie, one of the stars, Bela Lugosi, died in the middle of production. They completed his scenes with a stand in (Tom Mason), but Mason didn’t really look like Legosi. So every scene he was in he had his face covered with a cape.)
She’s caressing the legally-mandatory fire escape diagram. It’s a pinnacle of efficient communication regarding disaster preparation. She’s one of six people on-campus who have actually ever read the thing.
Not only do people not read that kind of sign, they’ll often act as if you’re doing something strange and potentially dangerous if they see you reading one.
I guess the expectation is that you’ll join them in their violent panic, clog up the one door everyone is heading for, and die in the fire? That’s all I can figure.
Yeah, it’s like actually frightening to be “caught” knowing things sometimes. You can see the light leave their beady little neurotypical eyes, the smile STOPS and their entire face just sorta hangs loose. They reflexively move their hand to protect their vital organs (watch it move to their chest or stomach, I’m dead serious about this) and they start looking around for escape routes and/or backup, preferably someone with a walkie-talkie or weapon. If you’re not very careful, they will get the cops on your ass, with a warning that you’re to be treated as someone armed and dangerous.
This is all lived experience, for the record. Sometimes I’ll have somebody question how my autistic ass can read that body language so well and so quickly, when I have so much trouble with it under most circumstances. It’s because I’ve had to explain why I knew basic things under a microscope or risk physical harm. I’ve made up entire family members from other towns on the fly, just to keep somebody from freaking the fuck out because I knew how to get someplace, after they asked me for directions.
Maybe things are different in more populated areas, but Little Egypt is no fuckin’ joke for a curious person.
It has Joyce’s room as 4th from the end. Even if there’s zero rooms in the variable length between Sal’s room and Dina’s, Joyce’s room would be 5th from the end, because of the singles by the stairs.
It’s a fraudulent fire escape map. This strip is probably foreshadowing a major plotline involving a fire department investigator, in the upcoming chapter “Ashes to Asher”
It is odd, and now I keep looking at it. Like, if she was standing further over and her hand was closer to the edge of the door, that’d seem normal. But upper center is a weird place to close a door from. Maybe it’s meant to be awkward ’cause girl’s feeling hella awkward right now.
The wood’s grain is slightly raised, but smoothed. The diagram is glossy paper, to prevent fading. It’s all cool to the touch, but marginally dusty. Sometimes a person has a kind of headiness where their hands just feel more, and they let them.
I really hope Dorothy doesn’t think that is sexiest sweatervest Joyce has. Still not convinced sweatervests are sexy, at least not the way Joyce usually wears them.
What’s important is that Joyce feels it’s her sexiest sweater vest, for confidence reasons. And Dorothy’s opinion will influence what Joyce thinks. Unless she says the blue/gray one, meh.
Yes. Since Tesset mentioned E, I’m assuming they’re referring to the silicone (or similar) breast forms that people might use, specifically trans women/trans femme people. (Not sure if Tesset meant Jocelyne, which would make since, or was meant to say Joyce here in a joking way.)
I think that Dorothy is going on a trip down memory lane, so she’ll either just help Joyce and tell her that she has to confess her something the next day or she’ll want to confess to Joyce now to rip out the bandaid ASAP. Mostly because she wants to do right by her and because she’s expecting to be thoroughly rejected.
This very much feels like the beginning of a “clip show episode” where Dorothy remembers Joyce being adorable and kind and supportive and sexy – one scene for every single one of these sweater vests.
I sure didn’t, but unfortunately not enough people on my side actually voted. My name night group chat is still full of idle despair, but maybe three of us actually voted at all.
The part of me that has lingering faith in humanity wants to believe that the people of our country didn’t actually vote him in.
The part of me that recognizes how utterly incompetent he and his goons actually are, however, thinks they weren’t capable of pulling this kind of mass vote tampering off.
That’s an important point that doesn’t get mentioned often when this comes up.
Obviously the long running GOP vote suppression operations were in play, but if vote counts were hacked in this election, it was by far a smoother operation than anything else Trump has ever touched. (Or Musk, for that matter.)
Yeah, if it was a hack, there had to be Russian interference with them learning from past attempts. Musk would have let it slip several times by now as he loves to brag
I mean, he and Trump have both literally said things at rallies. Trump said Musk “knows those vote counting machines” and that that’s what won them PA. Trump told people not to bother voting because “we have the votes” before the election. If they did it, they have in fact let it slip several times.
Too much attention to safely get away with imperfect voting tampering. Better to get into massive sociological engineering. Fire up the angry under-educated and under-employed males (focus on whites, of course); fatigue down most everyone else. This election had both Dem and Gop parties see fewer voters than 8 years ago. Just that Dems had more decrease than Gops did.
We didn’t. The biggest lie they told was that people stayed home.
Before the elections states were purging voter rolls. Plus some states allow individuals to mass challenge voter registrations. TX company “True the Vote” sent targeted lists to conservative groups. One of mtg’s staff had 32k Georgians kicked off the rolls, another guy had 4k Ft Benning soldiers removed. In WI it was Black men in Milwaukee and students in Madison. In IN students and women were targeted.
After the election, North Carolina’s bs.
But even with that, they still wouldn’t have won. There are irregularities in some ballot tabulation machines across several states. Groups like Election Truth Alliance (Nathan Taylor is their spokesperson) have been documenting the differences. For example, in NV’s Clark County there were only irregularities in the early voting, not in mail-in or day-of results. PA doesn’t have early voting. Their mail-in was still fine, but their day-of shows the same irregularities:
Russian tails (instead of each candidate’s votes having a normal bell distribution, chunks under the curve of one candidate mirror chunks added above the curve of the other),
Drop-off (compared to the down-ballot votes, the presidential candidates perform the same, better, or worse — in affected machines the gop candidate never did worse), and
Vote Share (arrange most election results by precinct size and the vote share varies, but stays relatively parallel to the opponent — in the irregular results, the GOP vote share migrates toward a 60% win, even though it starts out on the bottom).
If it isn’t addressed, the more we vote, the more they win.
Tabulation machines are what that orange guy was calling “Vote-counting computers” when he claimed his tech guy knew all about them. Jan 19, 2025 “winning Pennsylvania like, in like, a landslide.”
There’s a reason no one believed he won.
They can’t win without cheating.
This is getting into conspiracy theory territory, man.
Occam’s Razor would say wartime fear and economic hardship led a lot of otherwise normal people into the arms of a right-wing demagogue who plays up false promises and stokes hatred amongst neighbors, as has frequently happened throughout history. And what little Left exists in this country either stayed home or voted third party for equally obvious reasons.
Humans act rashly when frightened. We lost. Not that complicated.
Blueanon. Ya, the GOP does voter suppression. That’s not why the Democrats lost.
The Democratic candidates didn’t offer an alternative, just GOP lite. Forever chasing the “persuadable centrist” further and further right. Great, they’re the party of Liz Cheney, anti-immigrant and anti-refugee, pro-crypto, rolling over to the christian nationalist judicial movement, promising to follow all the anti-trans laws the conservatives pass, but won’t follow the Leahy law against funding and arming crimes against humanity. When there’s a protest calling for police accountability, and reigning in their bloated budgets, followed by a nationwide police riot, their solution is to give the cops more money. We’ve already seen their climate solutions, and it includes more drilling and letting corporations do pretend offsets and lining the pockets of Elon Musk.
A sham primary four years after implying Biden only intended to serve four years as a caretaker. Saying out of one side of their face they were protecting democracy from fascism, but still talking how they think bipartisanship is the ultimate virtue.
The so-called project 2025 has been around 40-50 years. If Harris had won, it would just be project 2027 instead. The democratic party lost because it is ideologically bankrupt, it’s selling point is a half-true “we’re not the other team”.
It makes sense to be suspicious– this is the group that spent years talking about how the last election had been stolen, going, “Look at all these ways results could be manipulated! Foreign governments have the ability to tamper with our system!” So yeah, when they go on to win, it might be eyebrow raising. And I think it was fair to want it looked into shortly after the election– but I really think if there was something there, it would have come out. Competence isn’t a strong suit here; getting their supporters not to care about things like competence and morals is.
I will continue to have difficulty actually trusting polls as meaning anything, as long as they continue to conduct polls by cold-calling people and sending out sketchy looking links in text messages.
Pollsters have to at least try to reduce bias in their sample. Any means of doing that it going to have to involve cold approaching in some sense, because when you let people sign up to take part in a poll, you open yourself up to more self-selection.
The best way would be to set up polling stations in several uniformly distributed locations and physically soliciting people, but that’s usually cost-prohibitive, and it might introduce more bias than it reduces.
They’re always going to be samples and therefore the best you can get is confidence intervals. For instance, in the 2016 presidential election, fivethirtyeight gave Trump a 29% chance of winning. That’s more likely than flipping a fair coin twice and getting tails twice, something that, sure, is kind of unlikely, but if it happened you would not distrust the fairness of the coin.
I don’t think they’re introducing bias on purpose. I also don’t have a lot of alternative suggestions. I just think millennials, alpha, and Z are all extremely unlikely to respond to the polls we’ve got.
Also, god, don’t mention fivethirtyeight around me, I will start ranting about what a useless idiot Nate Silver is lol.
So. Not “distrusting the coin”, whatever that would mean in this scenario.
Just fully discarding the value of anyone currently trying to tell me how likely a heads or a tails is, because their methodology is critically flawed.
My point is that an event happening which was predicted to be unlikely is not enough to substantiate a claim of flawed methodology.
Also, this prompted me to look in to it more, and it seems that because phone survey response rates are so low across all age groups, a lot of pollsters have moved towards companies like Ipsos or Pew research that maintain survey panels, meaning huge pools of people that were randomly sent invites in the mail and agreed to be selected as survey participants. Pew has an interesting article comparing this method with what they call ‘benchmark’ surveys (large federal surveys) https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/09/21/does-public-opinion-polling-about-issues-still-work/
Election polling is a lot harder then general opinion polling, because the biggest key to it and the hardest to predict is the “likely voter” screen. You can’t just go off people’s opinions of the candidates because some groups don’t vote as reliably and if one candidate isn’t as popular overall but is stronger with groups that are more likely to vote, you’ll be off.
But which groups vote in each election changes, so weighting that is as much an art as a science.
The panic over one’s identity possibly being different and having to FIGURE IT OUT is so real. I thought I was done with that once I became an adult, but then round two happened in my 30s, and DANG IT WAS THE SAME ANNOYING INTERNAL PANIC ALL OVER AGAIN.
“I’m just going to say it, shame on any of us who throws a trans child under the bus for thinking they’re going to get elected. That child deserves our support. Don’t worry about the pollsters calling it distractions, because we need to be the party of human dignity.”
Minnesota Star Tribune@startribune.com ⋅ 21h
Gov. Tim Walz is doubling down on trans rights — and criticizing members of his party who are retreating — at a time when the issue has become a political lightning rod nationally and back home in Minnesota.
they managed to get the arms and thighs to be different grays, which I wasn't sure they'd be able to do, the way the mold's set up
though maybe they're just producing a lot of extra thighs and/or arms in the wrong colors and throwing those away, i dunno
Cops are overgrown children cosplaying War, with all the rest of us forced into their stupid, childish game without our consent, consuming vast funds from the public treasury and ruining lives by the hundreds of thousands.
unknown@collie.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
I cannot get over these cops wearing night vision to arrest a dude on a Southwest Airlines flight in broad daylight.
B’aww, Dorothy.
Congrats on the eight-month-buffer, Willis-of-the-past!
I will personally resist the urge to request a tier for “redraw all the best strips from the last 15 years”, but seriously every one we DO get to see is a privilege. Look at those faces.
Huh. Coulda sweared Willis was at a full year buffer…
They are now! (or even a little over) That means they kicked it up from the time when today’s strip was created.
Ahh, I see now. Got multiple timelines going!
And in all of them, more and more previously presumed-straight-and-cis characters are coming out. /nods sagely
The list gets shorter. The polycule’s bonds grow more numerous. The fullerene-esque structure emerges toward clarity.
They really need to have likes for comments. Cause that was awesome.
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man this time shit’ll fry your brain like an egg
Okay, I assumed the alt text referred to the original strip that this strip references.
Ya knows, that’s not a bad interpretation. I’d believe it.
He is (see the buffer watch on the left side of the page). But 8 months ago when he drew this one he was at 8 months.
And now he’s at 12 months. Willis at 24 months by November?
Please No. Doubling his workload to creating 3 strips per day would not be healthy.
Here’s the million dollar question: How far ahead will they be when this strip is flashed back to and updated?
Why don’t we give in to the urge of requesting DOUBLE UPDATES per day? We may even get to see the second year before the heat death of the universe!
Double updates? I think the comments section would need to be disabled, it’d become so unusable.
I know Willis has said in the past that he has no intention of continuing DoA into sophomore year. But maybe that could change.
Gotta remember that we’re only a few months into Freshman year with a bit of that being a timeskip. At the current rate, we’d be reading DoA for another thirty years or so before we even get to Summer break.
Well, thanks to the timeskip, we’re more than halfway through the freshman year.
We covered almost 7 weeks of the first semester before the timeskip and nearly 3 weeks of the second since. We’d really need another timeskip to get to the summer. Or maybe even Spring Break.
*plays “Puttin’ on the Ritz” by Taco on hacked muzak*
More like Puttin on the Rizz, amirite?
Dotty, ya gonna dress Joyce for Joe…or for you?
Yes.
I worry that she is dressing Joyce so that Joyce will be thinking about her tonight
I don’t think it’s that calculated. Dorothy likes this vest because it reminds her of a moment together with Joyce.
Now that is cute.
She has found it, the One Sweater
The real virgin killer.
Nah, you gotta go with the diamonds if you want her to look seductive!
I thought it might be entertaining to go looking for the character reference art that had Joyce wearing each of these and while it is not in fact a sweatervest I definitely came to the same conclusion about the grey diamonds hoodie vest being the sexiest vest she has. The really short black one is also really cute but doesn’t really bring the same energy.
yeah it was
conflicted by the passage of time here, Willis
I appreciate Willis re-drawing those flashback panels to match the current style.
I confess I got confused on this flashbacks.
On another note we need more Sierra, we haven’t seen her in over three years.
*nods
Nothing but the sweater vest… the sexiest sweater vest.
Which is the sexiest tho?
The orange one since it’s bathed in the blood of her enemies.
Blood of one’s enemies is a solid look, but because of the nature of what led to the blood, I wouldn’t call the orange one “sexy.”
that was unfortunately a sweater, not a sweatervest, and thus is completely inappropriate for tonight
This one, clearly.
Whichever looks best hastily flung on the floor.
Heh, I remember this strip. I guess that gives this one the edge, the association.
u were first commenter on the original strip… do u think its awesome yet
wait no u werent -_-
BETRAYAL MOST FOUL
No comment here from mkvenner. The circle is broken.
Don’t make Walky sad, you.
He did call it
Dotty can haz a boyfren _and_ grrlfren. And eat them too. Walky is supportive!
Literally eat them. This is how we learn Dorothy is into vore.
At first I thought the redrawn flashback here might have been “cheating” Dorothy’s expression slightly but nope, it really did look like she was staring at Joyce’s chest in the original scene too. Not sure if that was what 2011-Willis was goin’ for but it sure as hell is what they actually drew.
Also lol, eight month buffer. What is that, a buffer for ants?
All we know so far is that Willis knew Dorothy was bi before the timeskip.
That’s a lotta free real estate for speculation!
I mean, she’s staring at Joyce’s sweatervest that is *on* her chest, so kinda, yeah
…Ok, but where else would she be looking? It’s not like the sweater vest goes up to Joyce’s face.
It made sense because her focus was on the matching sweater vest. Obviously nothing else at all she was staring at. Obviously nothing.
Sure, but I’m not sure how else Dorothy would be drawn to be looking at Joyce’s sweater vest? She literally has to be looking at either Joyce’s chest or her stomach to see what she’s wearing, and the way Joyce is drawn, her chest is going to get in the way even if Dorothy’s instinct would be to look at her stomach. Like, I don’t think there is a way to draw Dorothy looking at Joyce’s outfit without it looking like she’s looking at her chest. But I guess I’ll eat my words tomorrow if Dorothy starts daydreaming about Joyce’s chest or something.
Erm ackshually, did you know that clothes are worn on the human body??? Making a small, harmless remark about something looking a certain way cannot go uncorrected and must be treated with the utmost literality.
Thank you, Taffy. For a second I worried this remark would go un-remarked-upon and then what would we have done with our collective spare five minutes?
I guess we could try drinking water and touching grass. Those are fun.
Oh great, an opinion about which comments are worthwhile, that’s always worth hearing.
Oof ouch the sass
Honestly, I read it as her noticing how matching vests exposed their chest size difference? Maybe that’s just me.
That’s just you – for understandable reasons!
Joyce is the one who got the revised pose-expression instead!
Wait did I miss something? Is Willis nonbinary? Seeing a lot of theys here, I thought Willis was he/him? Gotta get my pronouns right lol
Willis uses he/they pronouns. Has for a while now. You’re not wrong if you refer to them as him.
Dorothy lets Nostalgia decide!
She remembers it so we don’t have to.
oh. oh no. its time to have violent emotions about her without her even being in the room. oh this is going to hurt so good
But what _is_ the sapphic endgame here? _Is_ there a sapphic endgame?
*grabs popcorn
**doesn’t like popcorn
***grabs popcorn nonetheless
Need something to throw when this all goes to hell.
Yes! I like how you think!
*grabs popcorn with sharp, spiky candy covering
Do they make that and why?
It’s called caramel corn and I assume it’s made for people who legitimately hate themselves.
I like how Joyce’s closet has all of her Head Alien and Monkey Master plushies. That is a fun detail.
wear that again, and Carla is going to have an even harder time picking you two apart.
Do we have a winner?
“It is what I would choose, therefore it is clearly the best.”
The bag of stuffed animals!
That’s some top tier continuity.
Dang, well-spotted.
For those who have trouble remembering things from two days ago, I wanna point out that Joyce explicitly asked Dorothy to do this, in no uncertain terms. You can hit the “Previous” button no more than twice and see it.
I hope she tries on all Joyce’s clothes. It would remind me of my old roommates.
I hope she puts on everything Joyce owns at once, like Joey in that one episode of Friends, only she’ll be doing it for no reason.
“Joyce, I’ve decided that the sexiest sweater vest you could wear tonight is the one I’ve excluded from my own body.”
”
“But you’re wearing all of them. None are excluded.”
“Yes.
SO I NOTICED THAT DISTINCTIVE BI FLAG SWEATER VEST THAT FOR SOME REASON MATCHES THE ONE FROM THE FLASHBACK.
NOT THAT I’M DRAWING ATTENTION TO THAT, OR THAT THEY ARE SIMILAR BUILDS SO DOTTIE COULD WEAR THE BISEXUAL SWEATER VEST AT A LATER TIME TO COME OUT TO JOYCE WHILE NOT TRYING TO RAIL HER BEFORE JOYCE’S DATE WITH JOE.
I read this comment and I hope you’ve managed to ward off that horrible future you predicted, full of wild accusations.
6 hours from now, we’re gonna see “Dorothy is about to put Joyce’s clothes on and steal her identity” or something in that tri-county area.
Carla at least probably wouldn’t notice
I can’t believe Dorothy, in her unhinged attempts to become Joyce’s true dommy mommy, is now invading her closet and has christened herself to be the one deciding what Joyce wears on her date. Dorothy is the Devil!
Prayer circle for no more “Dorothy is LITERALLY Joyce’s mom, so if you think they’d be cute together, you’re gross” comments.
Oh I will absolutely join that prayer circle. Please Willis, no more “of these two 18 year olds, one is slightly less sheltered than the other and therefore she is a motherly figure, making her attraction to Joyce problematic” comments.
I have been wondering whether “Dorothy is actually ALSO autistic, obviously” would make anyone’s heads explode, because it REALLY increased in volume and frequency after the strip basically confirmed Joyce was.
oh it would absolutely make heads explode
I missed those comments and THANK GOODNESS for that. I don’t join prayer circles anymore but I’ll set up snacks on the side table for ya’ll.
Oh let me be very clear I’m at most agnostic, this is a nonreligious “pleeeeeaaaase I’m so tired” circle haha, but snacks are always appreciated.
It started with “mom friend” and then it just got. more and more literal, and weirder and weirder. It wasn’t enough for some folks to just say “they have a power imbalance [citation needed], so it’s wrong”; they had to escalate all the way into “Joyce sees Dorothy as a MOM [citation extremely needed], so it’s extra wrong”.
“Power imbalance” claims are especially funny these days because at least here and here, if not in fact all the way back when Joyce said “I can make Dorothy angry? […] I feel bad, but also like I’ve been given immense power”, it’s been really obvious to me that… if we’ve gotta pick a “dom” and a “sub” here, Joyce is the one who runs this show, l m a o .
Great, now I’m thinking about Dorothy and Joyce, all cards on the table, no relevant information unknown, All-Access Pass granted by their boyfriends for a one-night show, having a fully consensual hands-on sex ed tutorial with a focus on safe domme/sub dynamics.
You’re welcome.
That whole shitshow was especially offensive to me, because Dorothy’s not even 20 yet. She’s still barely even half too young for MILF energy (you need to be at least 40, sorry). Motherfuckers wanna skip steps, it’s genuinely fucked up how impatient they are.
Right?
She, like the rest of the freshman cast, is younger than Dina (19). She’s not old enough to be anyone’s mom. She’s a Mom Friend, sure, but that just means she makes sure everybody’s, like, hydrated on day trips. It doesn’t mean she’s actually in any sort of position of power.
I guess I shouldn’t say “the rest of the freshman cast”. It’s at least all the girls who were present for the reveal of Dina’s age, though, because that was part of the point.
And now we know Dina had to repeat a grade.
So it’s not just a matter of birthday timing.
Dina repeating a grade reminds me that I was almost held back during kindergarten. For me, I was an only child who didn’t have much contact with other kids prior to kindergarten. All my cousins were like 5 states away, and there were like 3 kids in my neighborhood that I knew and played with. So going from that to a classroom of over twenty other kids was a huge change of pace. I was very quiet and didn’t raise my hand to answer questions.
That lead to my teacher assuming I didn’t know the material. She had a meeting with my parents and suggested holding me back a year, which stunned my parents. They sat with me during homework and were able to see I was understanding the material. My mom suggested that I was quiet because I didn’t want to say the wrong thing (which was true!) so she suggested the teacher call on me randomly instead. It worked, and I was never at risk for being held back again, but it’s a shame Dina didn’t have that chance.
Teachers need to be better at their jobs, among many other things.
Watch out, she’s got a fanny pack
With sunscreen and granola bars
She’ll help to UV-shield your back
And play nice music in your car
Haha
Click a button? Twice?? So much work!!!
Re: Title text:
The buffer is insane, it’s 368 days now.
Hitting an 8 month buffer??
Hope it didn’t hurt!
Do you think it’s August right now?
For whatever reason, this gave me strong Scrubs “Where do you think we are right now?” vibes.
One day, I’ll watch an episode of Scrubs on a TV that’s already playing it. One of the characters will say one of the things that gets noticed here as a Scrubs quote and I’ll get the joke.
Can’t deny, that peach colored number is the best in the closet.
Should have brought back the yellow dress
Especially with the effect it had on Joe the first time.
Isn’t it simply too cold for that right now?
Rookie talk, if you wear skirts in the cold often enough your legs grow a transparent shell that keeps you warm.
Well, she’d have to wear a sweater vest OVER it, because she’s committed now to a sexy sweatervest.
Not sure if this pushes things towards the positive or the negative/awkward outcome…
Yes
I really need to pop some popcorn
OH GOSH WHATEVER HAPPENS THIS IS PAINFULLY ADORABLE AND I AM HERE FOR IT
Ok, weird question… What exactly is Dorothy doing in panel 1. She has her hand up against the door. But is she closing it? If a, it’s a rather awkward way to push a door shut.
Clearly after Joyce left the room Dorothy took a minute to pursue her passion for flamenco dancing, as she always does whenever she is in a room by herself.
I thought she might be re-creating the Tom Mason scenes from Plan 9 from Outer Space.
(In that movie, one of the stars, Bela Lugosi, died in the middle of production. They completed his scenes with a stand in (Tom Mason), but Mason didn’t really look like Legosi. So every scene he was in he had his face covered with a cape.)
She’s caressing the legally-mandatory fire escape diagram. It’s a pinnacle of efficient communication regarding disaster preparation. She’s one of six people on-campus who have actually ever read the thing.
People don’t read those?
Not only do people not read that kind of sign, they’ll often act as if you’re doing something strange and potentially dangerous if they see you reading one.
but I always read them. What if there’s an emergency?
I guess the expectation is that you’ll join them in their violent panic, clog up the one door everyone is heading for, and die in the fire? That’s all I can figure.
Don’t let neurotyps see you reading those. They might put you on the registry. :O
They’re so afraid of knowledge and forethought. It’d be cute if it didn’t become violent so quickly.
Those last 7 words are what worries me.
Yeah, it’s like actually frightening to be “caught” knowing things sometimes. You can see the light leave their beady little neurotypical eyes, the smile STOPS and their entire face just sorta hangs loose. They reflexively move their hand to protect their vital organs (watch it move to their chest or stomach, I’m dead serious about this) and they start looking around for escape routes and/or backup, preferably someone with a walkie-talkie or weapon. If you’re not very careful, they will get the cops on your ass, with a warning that you’re to be treated as someone armed and dangerous.
This is all lived experience, for the record. Sometimes I’ll have somebody question how my autistic ass can read that body language so well and so quickly, when I have so much trouble with it under most circumstances. It’s because I’ve had to explain why I knew basic things under a microscope or risk physical harm. I’ve made up entire family members from other towns on the fly, just to keep somebody from freaking the fuck out because I knew how to get someplace, after they asked me for directions.
Maybe things are different in more populated areas, but Little Egypt is no fuckin’ joke for a curious person.
That is absolutely deranged behavior.
On which end? I assume the neurotypicals’ end.
It has Joyce’s room as 4th from the end. Even if there’s zero rooms in the variable length between Sal’s room and Dina’s, Joyce’s room would be 5th from the end, because of the singles by the stairs.
It’s a fraudulent fire escape map. This strip is probably foreshadowing a major plotline involving a fire department investigator, in the upcoming chapter “Ashes to Asher”
It is odd, and now I keep looking at it. Like, if she was standing further over and her hand was closer to the edge of the door, that’d seem normal. But upper center is a weird place to close a door from. Maybe it’s meant to be awkward ’cause girl’s feeling hella awkward right now.
The wood’s grain is slightly raised, but smoothed. The diagram is glossy paper, to prevent fading. It’s all cool to the touch, but marginally dusty. Sometimes a person has a kind of headiness where their hands just feel more, and they let them.
I do like anything that could support reading Dorothy as autistic. (This would be similar to something I might do, in a very autistic way.)
She’s getting ready to Duel.
Is that Dorothy with a Duel Disk??? Damn nice!!! ^^
I want you to know i appreciate you taking the time to make that gravatar.
This will not end well lol
oh damn man oh heck oh darn oh dang man it’s on now baby
I really hope Dorothy doesn’t think that is sexiest sweatervest Joyce has. Still not convinced sweatervests are sexy, at least not the way Joyce usually wears them.
Right, but Joe is the target for convincing, so his in-story opinion is the one we should focus on.
What’s important is that Joyce feels it’s her sexiest sweater vest, for confidence reasons. And Dorothy’s opinion will influence what Joyce thinks. Unless she says the blue/gray one, meh.
Alright, I’m calling it. Nothing bad is going to happen and the only train getting wrecked tonight is Joyce.
Her caboose gonna get off the rail.
If Dorothy successfully does nothing, she’ll still be a Gordian knot of conflicting motives. An emotional wreck.
I don’t think she’ll do nothing, but I think it’ll turn out ok.
It doesn’t matter two titties what Joyce wears, Joe gunna take it off anyway, hanky panky.
Boooo
I must disagree! Two titties matter _very_ much. For exhibit A, I present Joe’s imminent reaction.
I think Joyce has been on E long enough that she doesn’t have the kinda titties you can take off anymore
Does… does *anybody* have titties you can take off?
Yes. Since Tesset mentioned E, I’m assuming they’re referring to the silicone (or similar) breast forms that people might use, specifically trans women/trans femme people. (Not sure if Tesset meant Jocelyne, which would make since, or was meant to say Joyce here in a joking way.)
Oh I was thinking of the actual lumps of fat that lie above the pectoral muscles.
You can take those off too, but then you can’t put them back on. The same ones, anyway. (/j)
Then she got an idea!
A SEXY idea!
The Dot got a WONDERFUL, SEXY IDEA!!!
I think that Dorothy is going on a trip down memory lane, so she’ll either just help Joyce and tell her that she has to confess her something the next day or she’ll want to confess to Joyce now to rip out the bandaid ASAP. Mostly because she wants to do right by her and because she’s expecting to be thoroughly rejected.
This very much feels like the beginning of a “clip show episode” where Dorothy remembers Joyce being adorable and kind and supportive and sexy – one scene for every single one of these sweater vests.
It’s hard to understand if Dorothy is just remembering something pleasant or found what she thinks it’s the right clothe for the occasion.
I guess we’ll find out tomorrow!
What does this mean,? Are you insinuating there may be another comic after this one, and the current comic may not be the final one?
It will just be Dorothy and her memories, because she’s wearing all the sweaters so she alone survives the heat death of the universe.
Oh god, alt-text Willis is still in August 2024. There’s so many horrors he’s yet to encounter. If only we could save him.
I remember August 2024, when I confidently told my friends there was no way we’d vote that man in again when the alternative was such a great option.
Good times…
Yeah…
I was hoping this would be the case while also starting to stockpile estrogen
I am not convinced we did vote that man in again
I sure didn’t, but unfortunately not enough people on my side actually voted. My name night group chat is still full of idle despair, but maybe three of us actually voted at all.
Approx 77 million voted the rump. So approx 31% of all registered voters voted the rump. Approx 69% (nice) did _not_ vote the rump.
Unfortunately, a slightly larger number also didn’t vote for Harris.
It was certainly close and it certainly wasn’t the mandate he claims, but it was a pretty clear victory.
The part of me that has lingering faith in humanity wants to believe that the people of our country didn’t actually vote him in.
The part of me that recognizes how utterly incompetent he and his goons actually are, however, thinks they weren’t capable of pulling this kind of mass vote tampering off.
That’s an important point that doesn’t get mentioned often when this comes up.
Obviously the long running GOP vote suppression operations were in play, but if vote counts were hacked in this election, it was by far a smoother operation than anything else Trump has ever touched. (Or Musk, for that matter.)
Yeah, if it was a hack, there had to be Russian interference with them learning from past attempts. Musk would have let it slip several times by now as he loves to brag
I mean, he and Trump have both literally said things at rallies. Trump said Musk “knows those vote counting machines” and that that’s what won them PA. Trump told people not to bother voting because “we have the votes” before the election. If they did it, they have in fact let it slip several times.
Like I’m not saying they did do anything. We don’t have any proof of that.
But I am saying they’ve VERY much been talking exactly as if they did, in fact, do something.
Too much attention to safely get away with imperfect voting tampering. Better to get into massive sociological engineering. Fire up the angry under-educated and under-employed males (focus on whites, of course); fatigue down most everyone else. This election had both Dem and Gop parties see fewer voters than 8 years ago. Just that Dems had more decrease than Gops did.
We didn’t. The biggest lie they told was that people stayed home.
Before the elections states were purging voter rolls. Plus some states allow individuals to mass challenge voter registrations. TX company “True the Vote” sent targeted lists to conservative groups. One of mtg’s staff had 32k Georgians kicked off the rolls, another guy had 4k Ft Benning soldiers removed. In WI it was Black men in Milwaukee and students in Madison. In IN students and women were targeted.
After the election, North Carolina’s bs.
But even with that, they still wouldn’t have won. There are irregularities in some ballot tabulation machines across several states. Groups like Election Truth Alliance (Nathan Taylor is their spokesperson) have been documenting the differences. For example, in NV’s Clark County there were only irregularities in the early voting, not in mail-in or day-of results. PA doesn’t have early voting. Their mail-in was still fine, but their day-of shows the same irregularities:
Russian tails (instead of each candidate’s votes having a normal bell distribution, chunks under the curve of one candidate mirror chunks added above the curve of the other),
Drop-off (compared to the down-ballot votes, the presidential candidates perform the same, better, or worse — in affected machines the gop candidate never did worse), and
Vote Share (arrange most election results by precinct size and the vote share varies, but stays relatively parallel to the opponent — in the irregular results, the GOP vote share migrates toward a 60% win, even though it starts out on the bottom).
If it isn’t addressed, the more we vote, the more they win.
Tabulation machines are what that orange guy was calling “Vote-counting computers” when he claimed his tech guy knew all about them. Jan 19, 2025 “winning Pennsylvania like, in like, a landslide.”
There’s a reason no one believed he won.
They can’t win without cheating.
This is getting into conspiracy theory territory, man.
Occam’s Razor would say wartime fear and economic hardship led a lot of otherwise normal people into the arms of a right-wing demagogue who plays up false promises and stokes hatred amongst neighbors, as has frequently happened throughout history. And what little Left exists in this country either stayed home or voted third party for equally obvious reasons.
Humans act rashly when frightened. We lost. Not that complicated.
Can you explain this again, but without the colander on your head?
Blueanon. Ya, the GOP does voter suppression. That’s not why the Democrats lost.
The Democratic candidates didn’t offer an alternative, just GOP lite. Forever chasing the “persuadable centrist” further and further right. Great, they’re the party of Liz Cheney, anti-immigrant and anti-refugee, pro-crypto, rolling over to the christian nationalist judicial movement, promising to follow all the anti-trans laws the conservatives pass, but won’t follow the Leahy law against funding and arming crimes against humanity. When there’s a protest calling for police accountability, and reigning in their bloated budgets, followed by a nationwide police riot, their solution is to give the cops more money. We’ve already seen their climate solutions, and it includes more drilling and letting corporations do pretend offsets and lining the pockets of Elon Musk.
A sham primary four years after implying Biden only intended to serve four years as a caretaker. Saying out of one side of their face they were protecting democracy from fascism, but still talking how they think bipartisanship is the ultimate virtue.
The so-called project 2025 has been around 40-50 years. If Harris had won, it would just be project 2027 instead. The democratic party lost because it is ideologically bankrupt, it’s selling point is a half-true “we’re not the other team”.
We lost 5 years ago when Joe Biden was nominated.
It makes sense to be suspicious– this is the group that spent years talking about how the last election had been stolen, going, “Look at all these ways results could be manipulated! Foreign governments have the ability to tamper with our system!” So yeah, when they go on to win, it might be eyebrow raising. And I think it was fair to want it looked into shortly after the election– but I really think if there was something there, it would have come out. Competence isn’t a strong suit here; getting their supporters not to care about things like competence and morals is.
I was entirely convinced that there was no way we’d get a second term, and for the first time in YEARS I wasn’t super worried about politics.
Being wrong hurt so bad.
If you looked at polling it was pretty obvious that the election was going to be a toss-up, even back in August.
I will continue to have difficulty actually trusting polls as meaning anything, as long as they continue to conduct polls by cold-calling people and sending out sketchy looking links in text messages.
Yeah, after 2016, I’m probably never trusting a poll again.
Pollsters have to at least try to reduce bias in their sample. Any means of doing that it going to have to involve cold approaching in some sense, because when you let people sign up to take part in a poll, you open yourself up to more self-selection.
The best way would be to set up polling stations in several uniformly distributed locations and physically soliciting people, but that’s usually cost-prohibitive, and it might introduce more bias than it reduces.
They’re always going to be samples and therefore the best you can get is confidence intervals. For instance, in the 2016 presidential election, fivethirtyeight gave Trump a 29% chance of winning. That’s more likely than flipping a fair coin twice and getting tails twice, something that, sure, is kind of unlikely, but if it happened you would not distrust the fairness of the coin.
I don’t think they’re introducing bias on purpose. I also don’t have a lot of alternative suggestions. I just think millennials, alpha, and Z are all extremely unlikely to respond to the polls we’ve got.
Also, god, don’t mention fivethirtyeight around me, I will start ranting about what a useless idiot Nate Silver is lol.
So. Not “distrusting the coin”, whatever that would mean in this scenario.
Just fully discarding the value of anyone currently trying to tell me how likely a heads or a tails is, because their methodology is critically flawed.
My point is that an event happening which was predicted to be unlikely is not enough to substantiate a claim of flawed methodology.
Also, this prompted me to look in to it more, and it seems that because phone survey response rates are so low across all age groups, a lot of pollsters have moved towards companies like Ipsos or Pew research that maintain survey panels, meaning huge pools of people that were randomly sent invites in the mail and agreed to be selected as survey participants. Pew has an interesting article comparing this method with what they call ‘benchmark’ surveys (large federal surveys) https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/09/21/does-public-opinion-polling-about-issues-still-work/
Election polling is a lot harder then general opinion polling, because the biggest key to it and the hardest to predict is the “likely voter” screen. You can’t just go off people’s opinions of the candidates because some groups don’t vote as reliably and if one candidate isn’t as popular overall but is stronger with groups that are more likely to vote, you’ll be off.
But which groups vote in each election changes, so weighting that is as much an art as a science.
I don’t know why you’re all assuming I meant Trump, I was talking about Birmingham City winning the league.
The Sprites are there. Does this show every sweater vest we’ve seen Joyce in?
It’s missing the one she was wearing when Joe asked her out the first time. And the one she just took off. I haven’t thought of any others to check.
It’s The “Mirror Scene” in The Marx Bros.’s “Duck Soup”!
That time Lucille Ball did the mirror bit with Harpo was incredible.
Ahh, sweet memories.
This sweater will look great crumpled on the floor!
The panic over one’s identity possibly being different and having to FIGURE IT OUT is so real. I thought I was done with that once I became an adult, but then round two happened in my 30s, and DANG IT WAS THE SAME ANNOYING INTERNAL PANIC ALL OVER AGAIN.
At this rate, with your constantly-growing buffer, the day you retire, no one is going to know it for 2 1/2 years…
Deciding to update the redraws has got to be one of my favourite things. Great little game of spot the differences each time.
On a separate note, I wonder if we’re ever gonna get unreliable narrator flashbacks/memories. I love a good lie.
If anything, we’ve had flashbacks check people on their bullshit. Jennifer got called out as if narrated by Ron Howard.
“I’m a great judge of character,” immediately being flashbacked was some of the hardest I’d laughed in months.
Awwwwwww
I wonder if Dorothy will ever be able to say something. It’s not like she’s going to actively try to sabotage Joyce and Joe.
Keeping quiet about her attraction is one of the choices available for Dorothy to make, keeping Joyce’s interests in mind as well as her own.