everyone outside hears dorothy shout and they figure things must be going extremely well
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Freezing


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  1. SET WATER TO BURNINATE OR GTFO

    1. You say potato and I say pah-tot-oh, let’s call the whole thing off.

    2. My kid and I are both like this. Super hot, turn the skin red. Husband calls it “temperature of the sun.” When kiddo was potty training, she would intentionally have “accidents” so that she could take a nice, hot shower. So to counter this, we made them short and like partway between lukewarm and temperature of the sun. Her speech was limited, but she sure made sure to helpfully tell people that we made her take cold showers. :\

      1. Such parental cruelty. Oh the horror and humanity!

    3. Dorothy’s no peasant, but she’s been burninated alright.

    4. Okay, even if you’re not a fan of this ship, the setup was worth it for this shower logistical silliness. Something that seems like a good idea in your head when you’re horny turns out to be not so great in practice.

      1. “You’re telling me I took a pill for this?

    5. I had to replace the faucet in my shower recently. The new one has a maximum temperature limiter that you’re supposed to set at 120. I disabled that ‘feature’. The last time I checked kitchen faucet temp it would go to 160, and the shower is closer to the heater.

  2. Your skin can’t itch if you don’t have it.

  3. It’s not visible but the actual reason Dorothy screamed is Joyce tried out her brand new “foot fingering” technique

    1. isn’t it called footjob?

  4. Uh-oh, water temperature incompatibility.

    1. The flag is only red because it’s boiling.

  5. Do communal showers still have the “scald you when someone flushes in the same room” problem?

    1. People tell me that this is a solved problem in modern plumbing and they probably, so I guess depends on how recently the shower was installed.

      1. That issue is caused by the toilet using cold water, which decreases the amount of cold water in the shower

        If the shower is set to 100% hot, there will be no change in temperature, so Joyce isnin to something here

        1. Yeah I understand the mechanics, suddenly scalding shower water has been a constant risk in every house I’ve ever lived in.

          I had just been led to believe that this was down to me living in shithole fixer uppers that nobody ever had the cash to actually fix up properly and that more modern buildings have solutions to this problem.

        2. This has been a mostly-solved problem since the late 1930s, and a completely solved problem since the late 1960s. Since then, it’s just been a matter of how cheap the builder was. (Although I think now, at least pressure-sensing valves (the 1930s tech) are the norm?)

        3. It says everything you need to know about capitalism that this is still an issue in cheapass structures despite having been a solved problem for nearly a century.

    2. My apartment building built in the 50s definitely has this problem. Gotta keep your ears open because your neighbor might like to randomly flush his toilet when you’re in there to try and get ya. Fun times.

    3. Pressure balanced shower valves solved this problem decades ago, and they’ve been code in most developed regions for almost as long. Showers that still have this problem were either built incredibly cheap or are owned by curmudgeons who “still don’t trust ’em”.

  6. Aha, there is a flaw in the plan here. Not that I blame either one of them; people like to shower at different temperatures, and there’s nothing wrong with that.
    .
    I like my showers warm, but I’ve had to put up with some really hot showers when sharing.

    1. I tend to start warm, then slowly increase the temp as I get used to it.

      1. this is how i am too, and it can be so frustrating in some showers. like, it’s not that i need it to be hot; i need it to be hotter than it was a minute ago, in a linear fashion, for the whole shower. every time i acclimate to the current hot, the hot needs to go up. i cannot rationalize or understand this, it’s just the way it is

  7. I’m with Joyce, I like it HOT HOT HOT

    1. Team HOT HOT HOT reporting for HOT!

    2. Joyce is right and she should say it.

    3. Joyce definitely ain’t wrong.

    4. Hotties verses the Lukewarms in the comment section! Let’s get the debates flowing.

      1. I’m with the Lukewarms. :P I like my shower to be on the hotter side of “warm”, but not hot enough that the skin starts reddening. I do have a fairly narrow band of temperature that I consider to be tolerable though; I do NOT deal with the cold, but while I can tolerate higher temperatures into the 30’s(C), it makes me grumpy.

      2. its gotta be hot enough to boil away my stress of the day lol

      3. Yes! More arbitrary divides amongst the comments! I assume Hotties get the torches and Lukewarmers get the pitchforks.

      4. Yeah, I don’t even like to get wet when showering; so warm/coolish for as short as time as feasible to get clean.

      5. The rush of the water is to make sure the sweat I’m pouring out doesn’t leave salt on my skin.
        I KNOW my pores are clean. I shoved fluid out of them through pure heat, and made sure it didn’t stay there.
        Team Scalding.

  8. I’m a Dorothy, my partner is a Joyce

  9. One of many reasons why shower sex is generally doomed to failure

    1. I thought the first reason is that water is not a good lubricant?

      1. Nah, the temperature thing is pretty much always going to come up before lubrication becomes a factor.

      2. I thought it was because the slippery floors and walls make it difficult to get satifying leverage.

        1. brace against the wall works for me.

  10. HAHA YES! Joyce it feels good to say I’m on your side again, even if its shower temperature.

    If I can’t burn away my sins I dont want it

  11. I do moderately warm showers now, I think. And I probably did as a kid, maybe slightly cooler, but in general… I hated hot so much. When I go to wash my hands, I still forget there are options besides only cold/all the way to cold.

    1. other than enjoying the ‘feel’ of it, despite her saying she got her own bathroom as a kid as the baby sister, maybe she used to use up all the hot water while she could so her brothers didn’t hog it all lol

  12. If it doesn’t make your skin a little red, what’s the point?

  13. how hot I like it really depends
    usually yes, I like it rather hot, ^-^
    but when dealing with a heatwave like this, imma turn it down a notch XD

  14. Some like it hot, and some sweat when the heat is on
    Some feel thr heat and decide that they can’t go on

  15. I’m with Joyce on this one. It’s gotta make me feel like I’m burning up just a little.

  16. Did Joyce grow up believing in the hot Hell or the cold Hell?

    1. Fundies only believe in hot Hells. The frozen (9th circle) is not scriptural but the invention of Dante Alighieri.

      1. The fire and brimstone hot hells are *also* the invention of Dante Alighieri.
        Hell is not actually described anywhere in the Bible.
        It’s actually only vaguely alluded to a couple times, if you sort of squint sideways at what the text actually says.

        1. There were ~1200 years of Christian folklore before Dante; saying he invented everything is a strong claim.

          Aquinas, who died when Dante was nine, refers to hell fire in Summa Theologiae, citing Matthew 25:41: “Go far from me, you that are accursed, into that eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels.”

          Columba of Iona (521-597) supposedly said various individuals would end their lives in hellfire, though I don’t have a primary source.

          Revelation has multiple references to sinners being cast into a lake of fire and brimstone.

          Mark 9:43 refers to hell and the fire that shall never be quenched, as do Matthew 18:8-9. Matthew 5:25 refers to hell fire.

          Now as I remember, the idea of eternal punishment is not obvious in the Bible. The _fire_ is eternal, but a “second death” for those cast into it. Jesus offers resurrection and eternal life as an alternative to death, rather than heaven as an alternative to eternal damnation… but having said that, Mark 3:29 does mention eternal damnation.

          Augustine (~400 AD) talked about eternal punishment and flames in hell.

        2. Basically, the entire Divine Comedy was Dante’s SI fanfic of Catholic doctrine of his era. He used it to make a lot of political commentary that was probably scathing in 1321.

        3. A favorite character of mine, in one of my favorite games, says:
          “I’ve never met a priest who could tell you anything about Heaven, but they knew every square inch of Hell. They should. They built it.”

  17. bwhahahahahahhahaahahahaahahaahahaha

  18. I like dorothy’s wet hair color.
    This is fun and cute and appropriately awkward as shower sex should be, I like it :3

  19. Joe is at his desk studying. His door flies open and Dorothy tosses Joyce bodily into his room.

  20. Been there. Relatable moments lol

  21. I can’t stand neither too cold or too hot water in a shower, slight warmer that the middle is for me.

  22. And this is why i can’t have shower sex

  23. I’m with Joyce here 100 percent. For some reason my skin doesn’t feel clean enough unless I use the hottest water available to me.

  24. This is amazing. Everything has lead to this singular moment

  25. Panel 4 is one of my all-timers for sure.

  26. One reason why we have two shower heads with two temperature controls in our master shower.
     
    Mind you, we seem to only take baths together anyway these days

  27. Yes, excellent, no notes ffff you enormous goobers.

    1. No notes? I don’t know about that… Dorothy may have hit a pretty high one here.

      1. Oh Dorothy for sure has notes for this experience, as does Joyce probably, but I do not. 😂

  28. ohhhhhh, yeah. should have known Joyce was gonna Joyce this…

  29. I like this one. This one is cute.
    Also did I ever post this comic?
    https://imgchest.com/p/bp45nbd8v45 (Suggestive)

    1. It’s just fiber, Joyce :P

    2. That’s really good! I can relate to Joyce there.

    3. okay i thought the comic was cute but this is cute as hell

  30. If the water doesn’t hurt, you’re doing it wrong.

  31. lol that’s one way to stay clean. altho if she’s that insenstive to heat/likes the sting, then swallowing a tiny pill shouldn’t be bad in comparison

    altho even tho ppl pay for college i’d expect the mto cheap out and not let you make it too cold or too hot other than like an atehletes shower room

    1. I would argue that the two things are loosely related: the pill is bad because it’s tiny, and the small impact on the senses is part of what makes it icky; it’s like having a bug walk on you, for instance. The more sensitive a person you are, the more you react to that stimulus, and Joyce hyper-reacts to that stimulus, so that could imply sensitivity.

      When you’re sensory sensitive, showers can be a nightmare, because there’s a lot of different tiny sensations that add up, and become overwhelming in the aggregate. One way to combat that, is to ratchet up one of those sensory inputs to maximum levels, so it drowns out the other, worse ones. You can’t sense the shower being too loud, or that you’re wet, or that there’s a ton of tiny droplets hitting your skin over and over and over (like little bugs crawling on your skin), if you distract yourself with the sensory input of Hotness on your skin, which has tons of positive associations in other parts of life, and is generally seen as a positive sensory input (like a gorgeous summer day).

      Joyce thus needs the shower to be almost scaldingly hot, because it’s the least triggering sensation available, out of the full suite of feelings you could experience in a shower. Hot means you aren’t thinking about being wet, or being over-stimulated in a negative way, because you’re deliberately over-stimulating in a positive way. Also, Hot usually means Clean, so she isn’t thinking as much about the shower being Gross and Dirty if it’s Hotter.

      1. so what ur saying is instead of downing a 2 liter sprite she should shove a bunch of coughdrops or something to go with it XD i wonder how she’d react to boba/bubble tea lol

        1. i think if there were weird squishy balls in her drink, Joyce may kill God again

  32. The burning sensation is how you know it’s working!

    …We really do get told, “It’s supposed to hurt”, or, “It’s just a pinch/tingle”, a lot.

    1. I am sorry i am a big piss baby, if the water hurt even a bit i am not getting in that shower.

      1. Nah, you’re not being a baby. That’s called “being reasonable”.

  33. Somebody predicted this!

    1. I predict that that’s probably true.

  34. I think this shower stall is bigger than my apartment.

  35. I sort of agree with Joyce, anything less than as hot as I can stand leaves me feeling chilly. But my comfortable temperature range is narrow so that’s only kinda hot to start and then gtadually increasing as I get used to it (and the heater tank empties).
     
    However, cold showers often help me feel a little better but I usually don’t have the energy for one.

  36. ohno, that’s official then. This ship will not sail for long. :P

    Shower temperature is uber important – next comes the house temperature.

  37. 1) Joyce is correct
    2) Probably not as sexy as she expected
    3) Might still be sexy enough for her to try

  38. Though presumably unintended on Joyce’s part, I am amused by this reward more closely matching the level of self-sacrifice that Joyce endured to get it! “I will force myself to swallow this disturbing tiny pill… if afterward you force yourself to join me in my BOILING HOT SHOWER.”

  39. Sex-shower sound like a nice and fun thing to do up until you gotta deal with the logistic of it.

  40. I think it would be hilarious if Joyce and Dorothy end up not actually having shower sex after all because of disagreements about the water temperature and other differences in how they prefer their showers.

  41. I take a pretty hot shower, but I end with a minute or so of ice cold rinse. I am a creature of extremes.

  42. I try not to do near-scalding hot water anymore. The brain wants to keep turning the heat up, but obviously the skin doesn’t like it.

  43. Team dorpy all the way, what is up with people who boil themselves on scalding water

    1. It’s because they come from hell itself to corrupt us with hot showers!

  44. I see Joyce is the kind of person who chooses to boil herself like a lobster in the shower.

  45. This is good, though. Now they know that their water temperature preferences are too disparate to make shower hanky-panky all that viable/fun they can go have their fun in a hopefully-less-public-but-more-comfortable place?

    1. I believe in their ability to have sex in public places!

  46. Alas, this is the real boundary to having actual shower sex even if ‘space concerns’ and ‘only one of you can really be under the spray at once’ are both off the table.

  47. The sex is going great. Actually things may be getting a little too hot for Dotty.

  48. I remember a story I heard once, maybe saw it in a TV show, or read it in a meme or whatever, where someone claimed they told their therapist that they like to turn the shower up until it stings, and they were told “yes, self-harm comes in many forms.”

    I think about that sometimes when I turn the hot water up until it stings…

  49. My dermatologist recently dissuaded me from stinging showers, for the sake of my KP.

    1. How do showers affect your karma points?

  50. Ah, I see that Joyce likes her showers the same way that I do. If it’s not hard to breathe through the steam, then it’s not hot enough.

  51. oh she just like me fr

  52. The first time I showered with an s.o…..
    Was the last time I showered with the s.o.

  53. The last panel is Joyce giving Dorothy a really weird handjob.

    1. It’s not a good handjob unless it stings a little.

  54. Joyce knows she’s not clean unless she turns the knob to Frollo.

  55. Joyce is correct here and she should say it

    (I mentally note that I’m also autistic and this might be a sensory seeking behavior on our parts)

    1. It’s definitely sensory seeking behavior on my part. I need that shower to warm all the way through me, and that takes some hot hot water.

  56. Why are there someone’s clothes hanging on the inside of the shower stall door where they’re going to get soaked by the spray from the showerhead and the backsplash off of Joyce and Dorothy??

    1. They’re Joyce’s clothes. You see her take them off in the previous comic iirc. I guess maybe undressing outside the stall gives her the oogies or something. I was wondering the same thing when I saw her put it up yesterday haha

  57. Joyce and I would get along just fine

  58. I am also autistic and I also do this with my shower temp lol. Is this a universal experience for us or something?

    1. I am autistic and i literally dir if my shower ever had even a little bit of steam.

    2. Dorothy’s also (probably) autistic, so…
      Yeah, I’m autistic and more iffy about hot water (and heat in general), though I’ve learned how to adjust in some circumstances. Mix of where each person is sensory seeking/sensory sensitive. (Me: hate hot; love different textures in food)

  59. Are we taking bets on how long to the break-up, given how incompatible these two are?

    1. I’m not sure if this is sarcasm but I have to ask, why would this be even a blip on the radar? This is one of those small difference on preferences that plague many long-term happy couples. Can you believe my spouse likes things with vinegar flavor?! AND they’re a Hottie instead of a Lukewarmer. Oh, and they like to listen to music when we drive places instead of podcasts. And that’s only the start! What have I been DOING for 20 joyful years?!

      1. My wife likes to be cold when she sleeps. I like to be warm. So, she has a fan that can be aimed to blow only on her side of the bed.
        .
        Clearly, the last 29 years have meant nothing, and we’re headed straight for divorce court because of this fundamental incompatibility.

  60. OK this one was funny

  61. Warm showers are cold and gross and feel like piss. Need that water to be steaming hot !!

  62. THIS is the reality of shower sex.

  63. Joyce is 1000% correct, make that shower water burn baby!

  64. There are showers for utility and showers for pleasure. They can be the same shower, but they don’t have to be. If I’m just trying to get clean, a two minute lukewarm shower is just the thing. But if I have ten minutes to spare, boil me alive.

    1. I don’t understand how that works, all of my showers are just for getting clean and all of them last 10 minutes or more.

      1. Part of it is that i have no hair to clean. So a quick shower for me is just jump in, lather up, scrub down, rinse off. Done. The rest of my routine (line cleaning my face) is out of the shower

  65. Joyce doesn’t have anything to fear about ending up in Hell, she’ll deal with the heat juuuuust fine (might even be a lil’ warm for her)

  66. Going down in the shower is not supposed to mean cracking your head on the wall, slipping on the floor, and ending up in the ER.

  67. She’s right. The water should be just shy of, or just over, the boiling point.

  68. I have never related more to Joyce than I do right now.

  69. Shower sex is always one of those things that looks cool/hot on film but the reality is pretty much this strip. Hell, even when you agree on a temperature you’re still only half under the water at best.

  70. 105 °F (40 °C) is good for me. 110 °F is pretty hot. Human skin can scald to the point of third degree burns in just five minutes in 120 °F.

    Guessing Joyce likes it at 115 °F… just over 45 °C.

    Thing is, you’re basically washing off even the base protective layer of your own skin oils at that point. It’s a recipe for dry and flaky skin.

  71. Yet one more reason shower sex is greatly overrated. Get clean by yourself, then get dirty together.

  72. Yup, shambles! Pack it up, kids! It’s Joe-ver!

    Get it, because where is Joe

  73. This is so real, very much how I feel when I shower with my spouse loll

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