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by David M Willis on September 26, 2022 at 12:01 am
  • 01 – Bring Me to Life Drawing
└ Tags: joe, joyce

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    September 26, 2022 at 12:03 am | #

    “my fives are up here”

    …

    “look, idk how I can ask you, literally, when was the last time I made fun of you–bc I literally DO NOT REMEMBER such a thing–WITHOUT it sounding sarcastic”

  2. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    September 26, 2022 at 12:04 am | #

    Joe just need to start saying “/s” after saying something sarcastic, so people will know.

    • The Wellerman
      The Wellerman
      September 26, 2022 at 12:04 am | #

      If only more people would do that, it would make life so much easier.

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        September 26, 2022 at 12:08 am | #

        I can promise that I am willing to say this, and to limit the number of times I say it sarcastically to only 40-60% of the time.

        (The meta, it is just too tempting.)

      • anon
        anon
        September 26, 2022 at 12:38 am | #

        lol when i was in school i kinda had a monotone voice when i was calm so ppl knew i was sarcastic by /what/ i said rather than my actual tone (tho that said i didn’t really get too ‘sassy/snarky’ among my group of friends [i don’t remember being esp. sarcastic/what i said but one time i said an off the cuff(?) thing that was ‘let slide’ but if it was someone else they would’ve gotten in trouble for it with the teacher])

        joking around with friends for fun is one thing, but the ones that don’t ‘clarify’ it under a guise of like being mean/passive aggressive/getting away with an ‘insult’ that might fly over some ppl’s heads would be kinda rude, but it would be a pain in a more professional setting

      • Sporky
        Sporky
        September 26, 2022 at 3:22 pm | #

        Perhaps, but at the cost of the majority of people being significantly more annoyed every day. “Yeah I know you were being sarcastic, asshole, shut up”

        • Decidedly Orthogonal
          Decidedly Orthogonal
          September 26, 2022 at 6:38 pm | #

          Based on the preponderance of requests for clarification versus the utter lack of complaints about /s being used on reddit, I doubt that the folks offended by /s are as legion as you are imagining.

      • Joy
        Joy
        September 27, 2022 at 10:40 am | #

        Context: cooking scrambled eggs
        Dialogue: “Sarcasm: would you like an omelette?”

    • Yoder of Kansas
      Yoder of Kansas
      September 26, 2022 at 2:18 am | #

      Took me a bit, trying to figure out how putting ‘is’ at the end would denote sarcasm, and how you made it italic before I realized it was slash s

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        September 26, 2022 at 6:45 pm | #

        Yeah “slash-ess” is like a programming switch. The implication being it’s a shorthand denoting when the sarcasm ends. Like a terminated html tag. Which brings us to “how to make it italic”, which is moot, but to answer anyways. The supported html tags are below thr comment window, but to spell “is” in italic, just use the html markup:

        <i>is</i>

  3. Johan
    Johan
    September 26, 2022 at 12:04 am | #

    Oh, Joe.

  4. Alex Boston
    Alex Boston
    September 26, 2022 at 12:05 am | #

    I like that Joyce can open up to Joe and I think Joe will not betray that trust.

  5. Sajuuk-Khar
    Sajuuk-Khar
    September 26, 2022 at 12:06 am | #

    I’m not humming the Ranma 1/2 theme to myself, I’m not humming the Ranma 1/2 theme to myself, YOU’RE humming the Ranma 1/2 theme to yourself

    • Jeff K!
      Jeff K!
      September 26, 2022 at 12:22 am | #

      Which one? Yappa Paa? Sweet Memories?

    • Maveric1984
      Maveric1984
      September 26, 2022 at 8:57 am | #

      Ya pappa ya pappa ii shan ten…

    • Sajuuk-Khar
      Sajuuk-Khar
      September 26, 2022 at 11:58 am | #

      Oh absolutely Yappa Paa

  6. Nono
    Nono
    September 26, 2022 at 12:06 am | #

    I think Joyce doesn’t trust people not to make fun of her since it’s a familiar dynamic she can fall back on.

    • Laura
      Laura
      September 26, 2022 at 12:08 am | #

      I agree.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      September 26, 2022 at 12:11 am | #

      I think she’s also lost a lot of self-esteem with having everything she believed to be true crumble out from under her, and kinda feels she deserves mockery.

      • thakoru
        thakoru
        September 26, 2022 at 12:51 am | #

        Also worth remembering that she was brought up in Persecution Complex: The Religion. On some not-particularly-healthy level, being made fun of is actually affirming to her.

        • Nono
          Nono
          September 26, 2022 at 12:57 am | #

          I mean, she also had Becky as a best friend growing up. Who admittedly to basically pushing Joyce’s buttons on occasion to get her to make funny faces on reaction.

          • StClair
            StClair
            September 26, 2022 at 3:56 am | #

            Yup. :\

          • Cerusee
            Cerusee
            September 26, 2022 at 7:05 am | #

            I would bet cash money that Joyce got teased a lot by her family for her food aversions. We know for a fact John is enough of an asshole to make digs about Joyce still ordering off the kids menu, but knowing how those kinds of family dynamics play out, it was probably not just John, when she was growing up. Joyce is *very* insecure about her discomfort with food, absolutely has internalized it as a personal failing and a sign of immaturity that she has to overcome to be “normal” and earn the respect of the people around her. (One of the many things that endeared Jacob to me in their earlier interactions was a willingness to meet Joyce on her own terms on that kind of thing—giving her low-stakes validation when she was proud of herself for ordering noodles and meatballs, meatballs NOT on the side, without ever indicating that he thought that it was something that she *ought* to be doing.)

    • Cerusee
      Cerusee
      September 26, 2022 at 12:42 am | #

      Yep.

    • Yoder of Kansas
      Yoder of Kansas
      September 26, 2022 at 2:20 am | #

      She is after all, inescapably her.

    • Carla's #2 Fan
      Carla's #2 Fan
      September 26, 2022 at 7:48 am | #

      Oh yeah, for sure. Because if she does get that diagnosis, if she reflects back, a lot of what folks made fun of her for was her autism, they just didn’t know. It’s hard to trust that people just won’t do that now that they know there is a reason. And she’d unfortunately be probably right.

  7. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    September 26, 2022 at 12:07 am | #

    Dorothy might become President but Joyce, at this rate, could be Governor of Delaware.

    • Laura
      Laura
      September 26, 2022 at 12:09 am | #

      John Carney?

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      September 26, 2022 at 2:16 am | #

      I definitely understood this very funny joke, but could you explain it for the dumb people who aren’t me and didn’t get the joke

      • Azhrei Vep
        Azhrei Vep
        September 26, 2022 at 5:38 am | #

        Indeed. While I am very smart and well-informed, and thus understood this joke perfectly well, we wouldn’t want the less-informed out there to feel left out, would we?

        • Decidedly Orthogonal
          Decidedly Orthogonal
          September 26, 2022 at 6:53 pm | #

          I _think_, maybe_ the joke is predicated more on taking the piss out of delaware.

          Like in Wayne’s World.

  8. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    September 26, 2022 at 12:07 am | #

    At least Joe is trying, not exactly the best method, but he is trying. I have a theory that he and Joyce will be doing a horizontal tango in the near future.

    Well, their near future, we probably won’t see it until 2033

    • Laura
      Laura
      September 26, 2022 at 12:10 am | #

      Joe really is trying.

      • Kyrik Michalowski
        Kyrik Michalowski
        September 26, 2022 at 12:45 am | #

        At the moment, Joe seems to be trying to be and actual friend to her. I don’t know if that is his end goal or not. Right now though, it seems to be he just wants to be her friemd.

        • Cerusee
          Cerusee
          September 26, 2022 at 7:32 am | #

          He has an openly acknowledged crush on her, but very, very confused feelings about whether he wants to pursue it with her (at least in part because he things he’s not good enough for the person she’s becoming, possibly also because I think he’s not sure whether she *would* reciprocate). I think right now he just wants to be friends and hang around her because he likes her, and he’s trying to shove the romantic attraction down and ignore it when they interact.

  9. BigDogLittleCat
    BigDogLittleCat
    September 26, 2022 at 12:07 am | #

    I really love these two together. How much Joyce trusts him is so sweet.
    And she brings out the best in him, with her directness.

  10. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    September 26, 2022 at 12:07 am | #

    Unless you’re being mean about them being short. Then you sarcastically get on the ground and hold your hand adjacent to the floor.

    • powerpowerpow
      powerpowerpow
      September 26, 2022 at 1:51 am | #

      I’ve somehow never seen this before. Thank you.

      Sidenote, is Joyce really “short?” I never pictured her as being particularly vertically challenged and always imagined her being of fairly average height. Meanwhile Joe is basically a tree and I’d imagine everyone is short compared to him.

      • Azhrei Vep
        Azhrei Vep
        September 26, 2022 at 5:39 am | #

        To Joe’s distorted perspective? Joyce is absolutely short. I’m surprised he can even see Dina from up there.

        Eyes of a frickin’ hawk on that man, I swear.

        • Nep
          Nep
          September 26, 2022 at 2:08 pm | #

          My spouse is 6’7. I’m 5’11. He calls me short constantly.

          • Opus the Poet
            Opus the Poet
            September 26, 2022 at 2:56 pm | #

            I was 5’10” before the wreck, now closer to 5’8″, my wife was 5’5″ when we got married. 5’11” is on the tall end of the bell curve for women.

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        September 26, 2022 at 7:26 am | #

        My memory is that Joyce is 5’4″. Dorothy as well I think. Walky and Sal are 5’7″. Joe’s height has not been mentioned, nor Sarah’s, but maybe 5’10” (remember the jugs).

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          September 26, 2022 at 10:38 am | #

          I was remembering the wrong jugs for a minute and got very confused.

          • Taffy
            Taffy
            September 26, 2022 at 12:34 pm | #

            Is there such a thing as “wrong jugs”?

            • thejeff
              thejeff
              September 26, 2022 at 2:25 pm | #

              “Wait, which jug did I just drink out of?”

              But seriously, what’s the “jug” connection to Joe being 5’10”?

              • Taffy
                Taffy
                September 26, 2022 at 2:30 pm | #

                Joyce has some cool jug-shoes Carla made her, for showering. They make her taller, but I don’t think the connection between Joe’s height and the jugs is entirely linear.

                • thejeff
                  thejeff
                  September 26, 2022 at 11:03 pm | #

                  Yeah, I knew about the jugs – I just didn’t remember any connection with Joe.

              • ValdVin
                ValdVin
                September 27, 2022 at 10:46 am | #

                It wasn’t about Joe being 5’10” but my guess for Sarah. When Joyce was wearing the prototypes Sarah was surprised to see Joyce looking her straight in the eye.

          • StClair
            StClair
            September 26, 2022 at 1:07 pm | #

            You’re not the only one.

            • Cerusee
              Cerusee
              September 26, 2022 at 2:30 pm | #

              That strip ans the one after it are peak DOA comedy.

            • Opus the Poet
              Opus the Poet
              September 26, 2022 at 2:58 pm | #

              I liked Sarah’s face in the last panel of that one.

              • Cerusee
                Cerusee
                September 26, 2022 at 6:50 pm | #

                All the faces in that strip are gold, but Sarah’s is perfect.

        • Yoder of Kansas
          Yoder of Kansas
          September 26, 2022 at 3:56 pm | #

          Joyce is 5’4″ per https://walkypedia.fandom.com/wiki/Joyce_Brown

    • anon
      anon
      September 26, 2022 at 2:58 am | #

      Joe has been described as towering sorta, paraphrasing/don’t remember exactly what dina said

      And lol could be easily climbable haha

      • eh, whatever
        eh, whatever
        September 26, 2022 at 4:06 am | #

        Dina has done that experiment.

    • zee
      zee
      September 26, 2022 at 6:25 pm | #

      Ammunition, thank you

  11. The Wellerman
    The Wellerman
    September 26, 2022 at 12:08 am | #

    It’s quite unfortunate. Between Joyce’s fundamentalist brainwashing and now her autism, her friends took every opportunity to make fun of her. An unwise choice on their behalf, and these are the consequences.

    Oh well. Even when the world just doesn’t want to play fair, at least now she has her own comic world that she can make however she pleases. She’ll eventually get fans who basically worship her. Maybe a few of them will even make her fan games. Who knows?

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      September 26, 2022 at 12:34 am | #

      I mean, I get what you’re saying, but it’s not like they singled her out. They poke fun at each other, too, and she’s not above making comments with various degrees of seriousness. Like, think of any number of things she’s said about Walky.

  12. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    September 26, 2022 at 12:08 am | #

    “High fives? No thank you. I prefer my fives sober, please”

    • Laura
      Laura
      September 26, 2022 at 12:10 am | #

      That’s funny! ;-D

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      September 26, 2022 at 12:16 am | #

      She has to be sober, now that she’s no longer high on Jesus Christ, her lord and savior.

      https://www.dumbingofage.com/2010/comic/book-1/01-move-in-day/high/

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        September 26, 2022 at 12:20 am | #

        Jesus Christ is a hell of a drug. I saw it almost put a guy in a coma. But he woke up 3 days later.

        • Adam Black
          Adam Black
          September 26, 2022 at 12:33 am | #

          I hear you can’t even inject pure Jesus w/out Fentanyl poisoning these days.

          • thakoru
            thakoru
            September 26, 2022 at 12:45 am | #

            Make sure to always test your Jesus before using. Dealers will try to cut it with all kinds of dangerous stuff.

            • thejeff
              thejeff
              September 26, 2022 at 7:29 am | #

              You haven’t really been able to get the pure Jesus for a couple thousand years.

              • The Wellerman
                The Wellerman
                September 26, 2022 at 5:01 pm | #

                I’d rather much have Silphium than Jesus, really. 🙂

    • moriarty70
      moriarty70
      September 26, 2022 at 8:29 pm | #

      Straight Edge Five!

  13. Throwatron
    Throwatron
    September 26, 2022 at 12:10 am | #

    okay joyce you have a problem. girl. if you don’t jump his bones now, I AM GOING TO

    • thakoru
      thakoru
      September 26, 2022 at 12:46 am | #

      I mean, this is Joe; if that ends up being a deal breaker, this thing’s never gonna happen.

    • Azhrei Vep
      Azhrei Vep
      September 26, 2022 at 5:41 am | #

      She should probably wait until the cramps stop trying to murder her. I don’t think she’s got it in her to jump high enough to reach the appropriate bones.

  14. Leorale
    Leorale
    September 26, 2022 at 12:12 am | #

    I like this response. Joyce could use a little positivity that being / getting diagnosed as Autistic isn’t actually bad or shameful.

    • Liliet
      Liliet
      September 26, 2022 at 3:45 am | #

      Yeah same.

    • FairyGothMama
      FairyGothMama
      September 26, 2022 at 4:07 am | #

      Very true. I didn’t get diagnosed until I was 45, and it was one of the best things to happen for me. I finally had answers and I felt vindicated.

      • Keulen
        Keulen
        September 26, 2022 at 1:11 pm | #

        Yes, I was diagnosed in February of this year at age 33, and it’s nice to finally understand myself better.

  15. Chaucer59
    Chaucer59
    September 26, 2022 at 12:16 am | #

    He’s right you know.

  16. Suet
    Suet
    September 26, 2022 at 12:19 am | #

    That part in Panel 1 sounds familiar

    It’s only sarcastic, until you have the jumping ability of a volleyball player.

    • Jeff K!
      Jeff K!
      September 26, 2022 at 12:26 am | #

      Close friends do pick up speech patterns and turns of phrases from each other. Maybe Joyce got it from Dorothy.

  17. Jamie
    Jamie
    September 26, 2022 at 12:20 am | #

    I appreciate the effort Joe is putting in even if it’s not working.

  18. ADLegend21
    ADLegend21
    September 26, 2022 at 12:20 am | #

    Still hoping Joe’s self loathing get addressed and resolved. I feel like that was just dropped on us, played for laughs, and forgotten.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      September 26, 2022 at 12:32 am | #

      I don’t think it’s that, exactly, like I feel like it’s one of those neurosis that is still present and colors his actions, but it’s not something he’s immediately in a position he can do much about it.

      • Cerusee
        Cerusee
        September 26, 2022 at 12:46 am | #

        Yeah, that. There’s not an easy fix for Joe’s issues. It’d a slow burn even if this comic didn’t operate at a slow pace to begin with. I don’t think it got dropped, I just don’t think it’s something that goes away after a few strips of it coming up in the first place.

        • StClair
          StClair
          September 26, 2022 at 3:58 am | #

          Seconded. I look forward to seeing him make more progress, even if it seems everyone (including him) doubts he can.

  19. Steelbright
    Steelbright
    September 26, 2022 at 12:20 am | #

    Joe actually trying and succeeding at being sincere is so nice to see.

  20. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    September 26, 2022 at 12:21 am | #

    Joe might be a little insensitive over Joyce’s distress here, but he’s definitely handling this way better than anyone else in Joyce’s friend circle, and I love to see it.

    • anon
      anon
      September 26, 2022 at 12:32 am | #

      IDK how much joe knows about the subject but it’s good that he interprets it as ‘good news’ even if it’s just so joyce can know/understand more about herself rather than ‘my condolences

      • Yoder of Kansas
        Yoder of Kansas
        September 26, 2022 at 3:12 am | #

        Yup. From this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib56g2DsX-s the best reaction is just acknowledging it, and moving on

        • Cerusee
          Cerusee
          September 26, 2022 at 1:22 pm | #

          I can understand why Joe’s non-reaction is throwing her, though, given the assorted reactions of her friends, each of whom found a *different* way to make her feel intensely self-conscious about it. She’s waiting for the other shoe to drop.

          • Yoder of Kansas
            Yoder of Kansas
            September 26, 2022 at 3:57 pm | #

            Yeah, it started out OK, with just “yup, this checks out” but the next day with the medication stuff was not great.

  21. anon
    anon
    September 26, 2022 at 12:27 am | #

    LOL better than sending her a ‘congrats on the autism’ cake meme image i suppose?

    • Liliet
      Liliet
      September 26, 2022 at 3:45 am | #

      Someone should do that too tbh

      • anon
        anon
        September 26, 2022 at 10:54 pm | #

        i mean, i def wouldn’t turn down cake/it’d def make most ppl with even a slight sweet tooth feel better unless the diagnosis was “diabetes” or like “you need to cut out carbs/sugars or your liver/kidneys/etc” will shut down lol

  22. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    September 26, 2022 at 12:30 am | #

    This is too goddamn cute. I do genuinely think he’s being serious, too, which makes Joyce’s suspicion all the more amusing.

  23. Mano308gts
    Mano308gts
    September 26, 2022 at 12:31 am | #

    It’s been about 5 years now of comics, that the Joyce/Joe comics are the generally best/most positive, with the fewest problems. As such, while I would love to see their dynamic focused on more, I fully expect that tomorrow’s strip will whiplash us off to another pair, because we can’t have too much positivity…

    • thakoru
      thakoru
      September 26, 2022 at 12:40 am | #

      IDK, Sal and Danny have at least been in the running recently. Also, while I definitely appreciate some good, wholesome content every now and then, I also live for the drama. INJECT IT DIRECTLY INTO MY VEINS! (In the comic proper, mind you; I could do with less drama in the comments section.)

    • anon
      anon
      September 26, 2022 at 12:41 am | #

      well, can’t tell for sure what it’s about but even if you’re not on patreon you can still click the ad in teh corner and see a ‘blurry’ version of it lol

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        September 26, 2022 at 2:39 am | #

        I do this almost every day. It’s a zoomed-in, dim, blurred version of the middle half of the strip. You can’t read dialogue, but you can tell which characters are present except in very wide shots.

    • Nono
      Nono
      September 26, 2022 at 1:00 am | #

      Honestly I’d prefer if they didn’t get together and just remained as friends. I know it’s cute and all, but they bounce off each other pretty well just like this.

      We also don’t have that many M/F close friendships in the strip that don’t eventually go into kissyface. Sal/Danny are now a thing, Danny/Amber was a thing, etc. The closest otherwise is Walky/Jennifer.

      • teebee
        teebee
        September 26, 2022 at 2:26 am | #

        We’re getting there with Joe/Dina and Joe/Amber now which is nice! I really do enjoy their interactions.

      • Cerusee
        Cerusee
        September 26, 2022 at 7:36 am | #

        If we were talking about a different couple of characters, I might agree. But the physical attraction between Joe and Joyce has always been present and always been mutual, and it’s not even a question of whether they might develop kissy-face feelings in the future—they already have ‘em, and are just not acting on them at present for a variety of good reasons.

        I had a longer comment about those reasons, sigh, but the webpage spontaneously reloaded before I hit enter, and it’s lost to the aether.

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      September 26, 2022 at 12:31 pm | #

      Too much positivity for the characters, or too much positivity for us drama llamas down here in Commentsville?

      • Mano308gts
        Mano308gts
        September 27, 2022 at 12:14 am | #

        Porque no los dos?

        (I had to…)

        But I see that my forecast was wrong, much to my pleasant surprise.

  24. thakoru
    thakoru
    September 26, 2022 at 12:36 am | #

    Joe Rosenthal: Indomitable Sex Monster, Second Worst Brother (ahead of Faz), and apparently the most neurodiversity-positive (I couldn’t think of a better term) character in the entire strip thus far.

    • JBento
      JBento
      September 26, 2022 at 5:34 am | #

      “Second Worst Brother (ahead of Faz)”

      Look, I understand the desire to forget John exists, but…

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        September 26, 2022 at 7:37 am | #

        I read it as Amber’s second worst brother, not of all brothers in general.

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      September 26, 2022 at 5:18 pm | #

      Can we agree that Faz is also on the ND spectrum? Like, maybe a third to half of his behavior can be laid at the feet of his being non-typical for whatever reason.

      • Leorale
        Leorale
        September 26, 2022 at 11:22 pm | #

        Faz is really traumatized. Do you have to be born with an unusual brain to count as neurodivergent, or can kids in the middle of intense ongoing trauma count as neurodivergent, too?

        • not someone else
          not someone else
          September 27, 2022 at 12:26 am | #

          Kids in the middle of intense ongoing trauma almost inevitably wind up with mental illnesses (at least a mood disorder but very often a personality disorder, C-PTSD, dissociative disorder, a whole bunch of things have their roots in childhood trauma!) so it’s sadly almost a moot question?

  25. John Campbell
    John Campbell
    September 26, 2022 at 12:39 am | #

    I’m just wondering how Joyce wanted Joe to respond to that.

  26. VolticEXE
    VolticEXE
    September 26, 2022 at 12:49 am | #

    Hoping Joe does O.K. in the future. I wish more people saw that he was trying to genuinely change, but not a single one seems to notice or they don’t care at all.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      September 26, 2022 at 7:38 am | #

      He’s also trying to hide it, so that makes it hard.

      • DailyBrad
        DailyBrad
        September 26, 2022 at 8:25 pm | #

        Yeah, he’s trying to obscure it and seems to get uncomfortable if people draw much attention to it. I’m sure Danny’s probably cognizant of it to an extent, but most people just don’t really see it.

        • Taellosse
          Taellosse
          September 26, 2022 at 9:28 pm | #

          Yeah, being simultaneously ashamed of the person you were/are seen as by others AND embarrassed of the kind of person you’re trying to be is a pretty tough spot to be stuck in.

  27. Cerusee
    Cerusee
    September 26, 2022 at 12:49 am | #

    I’ve argued as recently as yesterday that both Joyce and Joe have a lot of growing to do as individuals before I think they could be a viable long-term romantic couple, and I stand by it.

    *But* also I think it’d be real sexy if Joyce climbed Joe like a sprightly squirrel alighting a mighty oak right now.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      September 26, 2022 at 1:42 am | #

      I agree with exactly half of that.

      • Cerusee
        Cerusee
        September 26, 2022 at 7:27 am | #

        I’m glad you didn’t specify which half, since without knowing which half you disagree with, I can imagine your support for both, which is almost the same as if you’d said, “I agree with you completely.”

        • Maveric1984
          Maveric1984
          September 26, 2022 at 9:06 am | #

          Schrödinger’s comment

          • Taellosse
            Taellosse
            September 26, 2022 at 9:30 pm | #

            No no – the comment undeniably exists, just as the box containing the metaphorical cat exists in the thought experiment. The thing suspended in quantum uncertainty is Yotomoe’s agreement.

            • Cerusee
              Cerusee
              September 26, 2022 at 10:16 pm | #

              I actually looked up Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle before I posted my above reply, before I realized I did *not* understand Heisenberg’s Uncertainty Principle well enough to make a joke about it.

  28. Taffy
    Taffy
    September 26, 2022 at 12:52 am | #

    That’s two people talking about grist and mills in as many days. They should date.

  29. BBCC
    BBCC
    September 26, 2022 at 12:54 am | #

    See that last line just makes me wanna kick him in the shin.

    • Schpoonman
      Schpoonman
      September 26, 2022 at 3:18 am | #

      C’mon, he just did it for demonstration.

  30. shanunu
    shanunu
    September 26, 2022 at 1:11 am | #

    He’s telling the truth, that really is the sarcastic height for short people high fives

  31. Minty
    Minty
    September 26, 2022 at 1:28 am | #

    Poor Joe! Joyce is really putting him through it. Has he ever actually done anything to warrant the disgust and dislike from her? He keeps kinda bending over backwards for her.
    Hopefully she realizes it…

    • ZerglingOne
      ZerglingOne
      September 26, 2022 at 2:23 am | #

      Joyce is fully aware of how good Joe is to her. Unfortunately she is struggling extremely hard to reconcile her sexuality and feelings for him while also being absolutely miserable on her period. Let’s not forget also, that she’s still in the dead middle of a belief-based identity crisis.

      Her closest friends have been; to quote her, “up her ass”. A stance I agree with her on, even though I also think they were doing the right thing ultimately. They did a good thing for her, but at the same time they were pushy to the point of extreme for something that almost certainly wouldn’t help her right away.

      Oh right, her parents’ marriage also recently fell apart and she got a possible diagnosis for something she probably thinks is one of the worst things ever. Religious circles are REALLY hard on autistic people.

      Joyce has been through a LOT lately, and ragging on Joe, someone she clearly trusts a lot is definitely one of her coping mechanisms.

      • Bratty Roger
        Bratty Roger
        September 26, 2022 at 6:06 am | #

        “Religious circles are REALLY hard on autistic people.”

        🙄 That depends on nature of the religion/s in question.

        For example;
        I know that in the buddhist lay-organization I was born into, grew up in, and still belong to, it has not been an issue for me.

        • Taffy
          Taffy
          September 26, 2022 at 12:23 pm | #

          Oh come on, you know exactly what they meant. Your upbringing being different doesn’t negate the Usual Suspects being a problem for others.

          • Jahu
            Jahu
            September 26, 2022 at 1:38 pm | #

            The point is, if you mean Christianity (or whatever specific sect you may be referring to), say Christianity, not religion in general. The non-Christians get a bad enough rap without being accused of Christianity’s failings.

            • Taffy
              Taffy
              September 26, 2022 at 2:12 pm | #

              It’s a strip about Joyce, the probably-autistic former fundamentalist. Do we really need to add extra qualifiers and disclaimers when the context is at the top of the page? I struggle to imagine anyone is thinking of Shinto when Joyce is the topic of discussion and the word “religion” comes up.

    • teebee
      teebee
      September 26, 2022 at 2:30 am | #

      Honestly.. Yeah kinda? The last time they seemed to get really close was the texting over break, which was followed by Joe giving her the cold shoulder when they came back to school and then ditching her for a hookup when confronted about his feelings irt her and Jacob.

      So her frostiness is definitely not unwarranted. She doesn’t know if he’s gonna run off on her again.

    • Yoder of Kansas
      Yoder of Kansas
      September 26, 2022 at 3:15 am | #

      So I recently started rereading DoA, just hit the 4 year anniversary, and to be honest, most of the Joyce-Joe interactions have been Joe making fun of her. The turn to a more kind Joe is kinda recent, there’s a lot of history and first impressions to work thru.

  32. Ashley
    Ashley
    September 26, 2022 at 1:34 am | #

    i feel like joe has been making an effort to be better for a while and no one has noticed or given him the chance to improve.

    • june gloom
      june gloom
      September 26, 2022 at 1:44 am | #

      Boy if that ain’t the human condition.

  33. teebee
    teebee
    September 26, 2022 at 2:20 am | #

    Love how Joyce is still freely offering up personal information and updates about her life that she has yet to share with Becky, mind you, while still accusing him of wanting to belittle her. Because regardless of everything she does want to share it with him.

    Then there’s Joe’s attempt at disproving the accusation by telegraphing in the most passive, non-teasing way possible that he isn’t trying to ridicule her without saying so flat out (because that’s more vulnerable than he’s ready to or knows how to be).

    These two, man!!!! They value each other so much but are so afraid of acknowledging it!

    • StClair
      StClair
      September 26, 2022 at 4:09 am | #

      like june said: that’s the human condition.

      • Jahu
        Jahu
        September 26, 2022 at 1:40 pm | #

        [imagine, if you will, that one viral three-panel comic about the dog playing fetch] rewards of being loved?? NO MORTIFYING ORDEAL OF BEING KNOWN!!! ONLY REWARDS OF BEING LOVED

  34. bagge
    bagge
    September 26, 2022 at 2:26 am | #

    Neat!

  35. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    September 26, 2022 at 2:30 am | #

    Nice!

  36. Carms
    Carms
    September 26, 2022 at 3:05 am | #

    i just. with these.
    look at her like ‘I am revealing vulnerabilities but being like, thorny about it, cos I don’t Exactly recognise how/why/that I trust you so much.
    That’s a big deal! my psych suggested autism and TWO people know and I raised it with them quite similarly. like its Just Another Thing, gawd.
    I just. these lil bois

  37. Juanoku
    Juanoku
    September 26, 2022 at 3:13 am | #

    Oh hey he’s wearing a beach shirt (or, kinda, it has a flower pattern)
    Some stuff IS universal

  38. Liliet
    Liliet
    September 26, 2022 at 3:43 am | #

    Oh my god I love Joe. 100000% better reaction than Dorothy

    • Daibhid C
      Daibhid C
      September 26, 2022 at 4:25 am | #

      Very different situation. I’m trying to imagine how Joyce would react if Dorothy’s response to her completely freaking out about her autism diagnosis was “Neat”. She probably wouldn’t think Dotty was being sarcastic, but I’m not sure what she would think.

      Honestly, I’m not even sure how I’d react if someone reacted to being told I was autistic with “Neat”, whether I was freaking out or not.

      • Throwatron
        Throwatron
        September 26, 2022 at 1:15 pm | #

        I mean, I wouldn’t know what the hell else to say. From my perspective, nothing about you as a person has changed. Most testimonials I see from adult autism diagnosees say that it was a huge, life-changing weight off their life to get diagnosed and have an explanation for this thing or that thing. It’s not like you can catch autism. If someone is telling me they’re autistic, they are exactly the same person I was friends with before that conversation. I can see having to fake one more intense archetypal response or another, based on the context of the person’s emotional strife; but, “neat” is, as far as I can tell, the only real response to have that actually makes sense.

      • Alex
        Alex
        September 26, 2022 at 2:20 pm | #

        The difference is that she’s not freaking out in this strip.

  39. darkoneko
    darkoneko
    September 26, 2022 at 3:50 am | #

    did you just call me short ?

  40. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    September 26, 2022 at 4:33 am | #

    C’mon Joyce, high five him♡.

  41. Lone Duck
    Lone Duck
    September 26, 2022 at 4:33 am | #

    Excuse me, the global average height for women is about 5’3”. So, give that a high five, you tall, dark… Outlier!

  42. AlaninDC
    AlaninDC
    September 26, 2022 at 6:00 am | #

    That was YESTERDAY?

  43. Minkey93
    Minkey93
    September 26, 2022 at 6:51 am | #

    Said it yesterday, Joe coming in at Joyce’s healthiest relationship right now. I’d say walky is a close second. (I’m going off from the start of spring semester)

  44. MegaBee
    MegaBee
    September 26, 2022 at 7:10 am | #

    Yeah, I can confirm the sarcastic high-five height. We make it so you can’t reach it.

    Signed, a tall person

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      September 27, 2022 at 11:40 am | #

      We can reach anything. We might choose to kick you real hard in the shins to get as it.
      Signed, a short person

  45. SlothfulCobra
    SlothfulCobra
    September 26, 2022 at 9:37 am | #

    Not really good news or bad new. Just news.

  46. Serendipity
    Serendipity
    September 26, 2022 at 10:52 am | #

    Joe, are you demonstrating growth?? Proud of you man, keep it up!

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      September 26, 2022 at 12:19 pm | #

      That’s weird, usually people just hold a character’s smallest transgressions against them in perpetuity and ignore all growth.

      • Throwatron
        Throwatron
        September 26, 2022 at 1:11 pm | #

        to be fair, joe is a hot man, that changes a lot of standards. now the WOMEN in the comic, hoo boy, they’d better get it together XD

        • Serendipity
          Serendipity
          September 26, 2022 at 9:31 pm | #

          Please do not paint me as sexist out of hand thank you

  47. Jason
    Jason
    September 26, 2022 at 1:45 pm | #

    Honestly, other than lack of convincing Joyce he’s not sarcastic and not checking in on how she’s feeling… not an inappropriate reaction. In my opinion, as someone figuring the autism shit out in my thirties (along with my husband- forties- and best friend, sixties.) “Congrats on starting to make sense of how you function” is… well, it’s hard to phrase well but not an inappropriate message.

    • Florence
      Florence
      September 26, 2022 at 9:54 pm | #

      Yea, it’s difficult processing it yourself. I was diagnosed when I was a toddler but didn’t really face it til I was 18, and it’s a lot to deal with how others view you and whether that changes who you are

      Even now at 30 I’m still processing and while more confident in how I talk about being autistic, it’s still difficult

      And whilst I think we autistics deserve our existence as margenlised people respected, I understand that it’s difficult to comprehend how to approach it considering how much ableism prevents people from understanding it’s not about intelligence but simply one way of describing different brains communicate and connect in specific ways

      Also the variety of subjectivity that we all exist in

  48. The Wellerman
    The Wellerman
    September 27, 2022 at 6:50 am | #

    high five of doom /s

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Jonathan Joss being shot outside his home while protecting his husband after being sent a threatening and distressing package is WHY we need Pride It's 2025 and people are still being shot and killed for being queer This is why we march and why we fight
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Ahh, Target 2025 Pride Collection Spinister
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Wagatwe Wanjuki @wagatwe.com ⋅ 2d
the thing about white liberal Americans is that they'll argue to accept bigots into their tent before accepting the bigots' targets. the targets that have been on the same side as white liberals from the jump.
gelliottmorris.com: New piece: Most Trump voters did not
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