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by David M Willis on January 10, 2021 at 12:01 am
  • 02 - Look Straight Ahead
└ Tags: dorothy, joyce

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    January 10, 2021 at 12:05 am | #

    oh no family resemblance to family *shock*

  2. BBCC
    BBCC
    January 10, 2021 at 12:05 am | #

    Yaaaas! Go for the Joss look!

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      January 10, 2021 at 12:08 am | #

      Twist: not actually one of her brothers. I wish we could see this soon, but since it’ll be a long time I’ll settle for a glasses montage.

      • Dara
        Dara
        January 10, 2021 at 12:25 am | #

        ikr? “No, hon, you look like your sister.” xD

        • Fuzzy
          Fuzzy
          January 10, 2021 at 1:23 am | #

          To be fair, John wears the same style of glasses, and we don’t know what Jordan’s glasses looked like.

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            January 10, 2021 at 4:51 am | #

            There are a few variations, like the half-frames Roz wears, but most of the characters’ glasses are either ovals (Dorothy, Joss, John, Lucy, Billiefer) or square/rectangular (Ruth, Carla).

            They’re probably easier to draw consistently that way.

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        January 10, 2021 at 9:23 am | #

        “Glasses montage.”

        I love being alive in the age of the internet, elsewise I might think my attraction to women* in glasses is rarer than it is.

        (*That’s just me, of course. Both megane and meganekko exist for a reason.)

    • JBento
      JBento
      January 10, 2021 at 6:59 am | #

      That was my first thought: “Huh, so that’s what Joss would look like with long hair.”

  3. UnfrozenNeanderthal
    UnfrozenNeanderthal
    January 10, 2021 at 12:09 am | #

    Well, they look good on her

    • clif
      clif
      January 10, 2021 at 12:34 am | #

      I must admit, I thought the glass trying on montague was going to be off screen.

      • King Daniel
        King Daniel
        January 10, 2021 at 1:31 am | #

        What about the glass trying on capulet?

        • Demoted Oblivious
          Demoted Oblivious
          January 10, 2021 at 2:25 am | #

          Careful Mercutio, it doesn’t end well for Romeo’s comedian.

          • clif
            clif
            January 10, 2021 at 6:14 am | #

            Damn you, tablet autocorrect.

            • NotPiffany
              NotPiffany
              January 10, 2021 at 10:29 am | #

              Embrace the unintentional comedy of the auto carrot.

          • King Daniel
            King Daniel
            January 10, 2021 at 6:20 am | #

            Are you implying that I’ll be found a grave man, should any ask for me tomorrow?

            • Makkabee
              Makkabee
              January 10, 2021 at 11:12 am | #

              This joke is not so deep as a well, nor so wide as a church door, but ’tis enough, ’twill serve.

              • Casi
                Casi
                January 10, 2021 at 4:52 pm | #

                exit left, pursued by bear

                • King Daniel
                  King Daniel
                  January 10, 2021 at 7:36 pm | #

                  A pun o’ both your houses!

    • segnosaur
      segnosaur
      January 10, 2021 at 1:33 am | #

      I don’t know… given the way her eyes are drawn (bright blue, larger size) I thought she’d look better with a larger pair… do a better job at ‘framing’ her eyes.

    • James Rye
      James Rye
      January 10, 2021 at 5:24 am | #

      They do, but personally I feel like some colored frames might fit her better due her large blue eyes.

  4. Throwatron
    Throwatron
    January 10, 2021 at 12:09 am | #

    oh my god i did not realize how cute she was about to be because i am a dummy

  5. Doc Harleen
    Doc Harleen
    January 10, 2021 at 12:10 am | #

    She’s ADORABLE in glasses!!

  6. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    January 10, 2021 at 12:10 am | #

    Go for Julia Gray aviators.

    • misanthropope
      misanthropope
      January 10, 2021 at 1:42 am | #

      they’re real cool, some people say

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        January 10, 2021 at 11:09 pm | #

        After more than 45 years in aviators I went with the tiny ovals because I can see pretty good close-up without them, so I bought frames with lenses I could peek under and avoid the costs of bifocals.

        • Dean
          Dean
          January 10, 2021 at 11:24 pm | #

          Aviator frames are no good if you have a strong prescription, as the weight of the lenses drags the glasses down your nose. This probably isn’t something that Joyce has to worry about (yet).

  7. Nono
    Nono
    January 10, 2021 at 12:11 am | #

    I’m already anticipating Joyce in glasses to highly confuse, scare and/arouse any of Becky, Joe, Walky and/or Ethan.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      January 10, 2021 at 12:23 am | #

      1) Roomies (or maybe it was a Roomies cameo in IW) already did that storyline.

      2) Joyce already confuses, scares, and arouses Joe.

    • RacingTurtle
      RacingTurtle
      January 10, 2021 at 12:32 am | #

      Danny has a glasses fetish. That could cause some awkwardness.

    • Anna
      Anna
      January 10, 2021 at 7:29 am | #

      What about…Jacob?! :-/

      • Taellosse
        Taellosse
        January 10, 2021 at 12:33 pm | #

        That would just make Jacob sad, I think. We haven’t seen those 2 interact since the timeskip, but the way they parted seemed pretty final, and Jacob seems like the type to stick to his guns when he makes a moral decision.

        • Sam
          Sam
          January 10, 2021 at 12:58 pm | #

          I agree. The Joyce/Jacob ship was sunk and I doubt there will be a plot twist life raft when Joyce did a lot of wrong things he may have been complicit in, but did not endorse as a practice. Now that he has distance from it, friendship might be on the table again one day but he doesn’t have to be willing to be friends either with how it went last time. Just as Ethan doesn’t have to make up with Danny for what he said at the hospital.

          • Casi
            Casi
            January 10, 2021 at 10:08 pm | #

            I agree, and while i do hope they can become friends again, Jacob is definitely under no obligation to extend the olive branch. It would have to come from Joyce, if reconciliation happens at all.

  8. Cholma
    Cholma
    January 10, 2021 at 12:12 am | #

    Bang on, Joyce! That was my first thoughts as well, as I wore my new glasses in High School for the first time. “How do people wear these things?” I wondered as they seemed to sit so heavily on my nose. Now, I often forget I’m even wearing them. I’ve literally gasped and said, “I forgot my glasses!” while driving down the road, only to put my hand to face and hit the glasses.

    • angie
      angie
      January 10, 2021 at 12:21 am | #

      or the fun opposite of that “oh my glasses must be dirty” but actually everything is blurry because you’re not wearing your glasses and then you poke yourself in the eye by accident

    • ischemgeek
      ischemgeek
      January 10, 2021 at 7:19 am | #

      I can’t see my hand in front of my face without glasses.

      I once lost my glasses on my face and didn’t wonder why I could see well if they were “lost”.

      ADHD is a trip.

    • Uly
      Uly
      January 10, 2021 at 8:16 pm | #

      Same as the frames on the side. You hear complaints about new glasses wearers – “I can’t see, the frames get in the way!” – but after a few weeks you just don’t see the frames.

    • Wizard
      Wizard
      January 11, 2021 at 1:05 am | #

      Never really bothered me. I was just happy to be able to see.

  9. Jane
    Jane
    January 10, 2021 at 12:12 am | #

    The Joyce in the mirror is cute. Glasses work well for her. I don’t even remember what she looks like without them. Clearly, this is the real her.

    …Oh, that doesn’t actually work when she can’t hear me? And probably wouldn’t even if she could? Ah, well. Joking aside, glasses do work well for her.

    That said, if I were Joyce, I’d actually be getting annoyed with Dorothy by this point. I get she’s trying to be reassuring, but it’s not what I’d find comforting, and doesn’t seem to be what Joyce finds comforting. Still, good work in getting her to get her eye issues resolved.

  10. Rosicrucian
    Rosicrucian
    January 10, 2021 at 12:13 am | #

    She’s totally going to put on the fanfic sunglasses and just bump into everything for weeks.

    “They’re prescription!”

  11. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    January 10, 2021 at 12:14 am | #

    There’s a message in the wire
    And I’m sending you this signal tonight
    You don’t know how desperate I’ve become
    And it looks like I’m losing this fight
    …

  12. Lingo
    Lingo
    January 10, 2021 at 12:18 am | #

    HAPPY (probable) DUMBING DAY!

    As I posted once before (Oct 18, 2019), we celebrate DUMBING DAY on whatever date (month and day) in real life that happens to correspond to the current in-story date of DoA, according to the deductions and assumptions of the DOA wiki — and, in this case, on deductions and assumptions I’m making. In particular, I’m assuming that this storyline is set on the first day of classes, that it’s a Monday, and that it’s scheduled when IU usually schedules the spring semester (in non-pandemic years), i.e. the second week of January. Thus, if the wiki dating is correct in that the first day of DOA was on a Sunday, August 29, then the first day of the spring semester would fall on Monday, January 10. (Of course, we’re currently on a Sunday, whereas the DOA storyline isn’t, but we ignore that part.)

    Time will tell if these assumptions will fall in line with Willis’s own storytelling plans (I figure we’ll at least get to Valentine’s Day before another giant time skip).

    Anyway, Happy Dumbing Day 2021!

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      January 10, 2021 at 12:29 am | #

      Happy Dumbing Day to you too.

    • RacingTurtle
      RacingTurtle
      January 10, 2021 at 12:36 am | #

      Happy Dumbing Day!

    • Geneseepaw
      Geneseepaw
      January 10, 2021 at 1:26 am | #

      Dumming Day, Hurrah, huzzah, rah, rah, rah!
      Only with confetti.

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      January 10, 2021 at 1:35 am | #

      After Dumbing Day 2020 was cancelled (due to the timeskip, but still another thing that accursed year took from us), this is nice.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      January 10, 2021 at 1:37 am | #

      *noisemaker* WHEEEEE! Happy Dumbing Day!

    • WanderingLynx
      WanderingLynx
      January 10, 2021 at 2:24 am | #

      Wooo! WE’VE BEEN HERE FOR TEN YEARS, GO US! What a cute idea ^^

    • Lingo
      Lingo
      January 10, 2021 at 2:28 am | #

      FYI, the previous Dumbing Days:
      Oct 18, 2019
      Oct 14, 2018
      Oct 10, 2017
      Oct 4, 2016
      Sep 27, 2015
      Sep 23, 2014
      Sep 18, 2013
      Sep 12, 2012

      • King Daniel
        King Daniel
        January 10, 2021 at 5:56 am | #

        Of those, I believe Dumbing Day 2019 is the only one to have been actually celebrated day-of, if I recall.

        • Lingo
          Lingo
          January 10, 2021 at 9:45 pm | #

          Yeah, I didn’t come up with the idea until 2019, and in any case the dates weren’t really nailed down until the October 1 storyline.

      • clif
        clif
        January 10, 2021 at 6:30 am | #

        What’s the date of the next Dumbing day so that I can prepare to celebrate properly? Oh wait, it depends on how many in-comic days pass. So probably around Jan 15, 2022 then.

        • King Daniel
          King Daniel
          January 10, 2021 at 12:48 pm | #

          Since (barring mentioned-in-narration-box timeskips) one chapter equals one in-universe day we’ll probably be able to see the next Dumbing Day at least a few weeks to a month or so in advance, but yeah, we don’t know when the next is currently.

        • Lingo
          Lingo
          January 10, 2021 at 9:42 pm | #

          As I said last time, guessing when the next Dumbing Day will be is part of the celebration of Dumbing Day! Put me down for January 15, 2022.

          • Lingo
            Lingo
            January 10, 2021 at 9:47 pm | #

            Oh you already guessed January 15! Okay, I’ll go with January 16.

    • a/snow/mous/e
      a/snow/mous/e
      January 10, 2021 at 3:17 pm | #

      Happy Dumbing Day!

      • a/snow/mous/e
        a/snow/mous/e
        January 10, 2021 at 3:18 pm | #

        or it could be Dumbing Day tomorrow, in which case Happy Dumbing Eve!
        i still assert there’s no reason to think this would be the 2011 calendar; timeskip changes everything

  13. Suet
    Suet
    January 10, 2021 at 12:23 am | #

    Grow numb to them, I guess. Or have a new persona.

    *plays I Can See Clearly Now by Jimmy Cliff on my way back*

    *brings up the Dorothy clone counter to 2*

    • Mr D
      Mr D
      January 10, 2021 at 9:49 am | #

      Or adjust them to SUMMON a persona.

      But first you have to confront your Shadow! THE TRUE SELF!

  14. StClair
    StClair
    January 10, 2021 at 12:25 am | #

    Hm, an additional thought.
    She’s used to being the only Brown sister. The only girl, in a family of boys. (She’s not, but she doesn’t know that – yet.) And, until now, the only one who doesn’t wear glasses.
    So now she’s having to give that bit of uniqueness up as well.

  15. Rosicrucian
    Rosicrucian
    January 10, 2021 at 12:26 am | #

    Also Joyce totally has the idea that she’s different from the Brown brothers factory because she’s the girl, doesn’t she?

    Hasn’t yet realized she’s not the only Brown sister.

    If anything, the impending divorce probably delayed Joss coming out to anyone in the family.

    • Axel
      Axel
      January 10, 2021 at 12:29 am | #

      Unless she’s like ‘fuck it, they’re splitting up anyway’

      which I’m hoping for because I don’t want to wait five-ten more years for her to come out (at least to Joyce. She can take her time with anyone else).

      • Regalli
        Regalli
        January 10, 2021 at 9:28 am | #

        My bet with Jocelyne is ‘dramatically upped her timeline for coming out to Joyce and Becky, cautiously optimistic about Hank, but not out yet because this made it abundantly clear Carol cannot EVER know and that Steps Need To Be Taken to ensure safety from Carol before going No Contact.’ (By which I mean: when your mother is backing the man who kidnapped your sister with a mobster in his SECOND attempt to kidnap and de-gay his daughter? Do not let her know where you live. And ensure she can’t ‘casually’ bump into you around town.) Not that the divorce delayed it so much as the ‘welp, Mom is actively dangerous to me’ factor.

        • Regalli
          Regalli
          January 10, 2021 at 11:51 am | #

          That said, I still think she’s coming out sooner rather than later. (Or at least, I hope so.) Maybe not immediately, but I’m hoping by the end of next book, at least.

  16. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    January 10, 2021 at 12:26 am | #

    I feel like Joyce will take to contacts like a slug takes to salt but maybe if Dorothy suggests them then Joyce will realize glasses aren’t that bad. Or at least not that bad for her.

    I personally love my contacts and couldn’t wait to stop wearing glasses, because I feel like I look stupid in glasses. I also sleep in my contacts even though I’m not really supposed to because I hate feeling blind when I wake up.

    • crow
      crow
      January 10, 2021 at 1:21 am | #

      Don’t you have a pair of glasses to wear when your contacts aren’t in?

      • Kyrik Michalowski
        Kyrik Michalowski
        January 10, 2021 at 1:57 am | #

        I used to, but now I don’t think I have a pair of glasses. If I do, the prescription is way out of date

        • crow
          crow
          January 10, 2021 at 3:16 pm | #

          Even so, I think it might be worth fumbling around a bit every morning to preserve your eye health. You only have two eyes, and wearing contacts 24/7 seems like it could be very bad for them!

          You’re welcome for the unsolicited advice.

    • RZT
      RZT
      January 10, 2021 at 4:45 pm | #

      I used to do that too. Then I ended up with an infection that could have cost me my eyesight. It was incredibly painful and one of the scariest moments ever for me. The proteins built up and I still have a small scar on my eye to this day. This was when I was 19 and I’m 35 now and it still haunts me. Please please please please don’t go blind in one of your eyes for the sake of a couple minutes of blindness in the morning. If you know your contact prescription you can get a pair of glasses from Zenni optical for $10-20 if you go bare bones.

      I also hate wearing glasses but will never again risk that. I use them for maybe 15 minutes a day total now. A few minutes at bedtime and when I wake up or if I need something in the middle of the night.

  17. Moon
    Moon
    January 10, 2021 at 12:29 am | #

    maybe gold wire frames would kinda slap

    • He Who Abides
      He Who Abides
      January 10, 2021 at 12:44 am | #

      I dunno, I kinda wanna see her with some thick-framed glasses myself.

      • Bicycle Bill
        Bicycle Bill
        January 10, 2021 at 1:08 am | #

        “Girl, please… “

      • Bicycle Bill
        Bicycle Bill
        January 10, 2021 at 1:09 am | #

        Let’s try that again….

        Gurl, please… “

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          January 10, 2021 at 4:45 am | #

          Those are still “grouchy, nearly retired school lunch lady” glasses, regardless of bright pastel colors and who’s wearing them.

          • Tunasammich
            Tunasammich
            January 10, 2021 at 3:23 pm | #

            🙁

            • Needfuldoer
              Needfuldoer
              January 10, 2021 at 4:24 pm | #

              Hey don’t blame me, I didn’t put them on every Miss Finster in pop culture throughout the 80s and 90s.

    • zee
      zee
      January 10, 2021 at 11:18 am | #

      I wanna see her in big round gold frames
      …totally not just because that’s what I wear

  18. Dr. T
    Dr. T
    January 10, 2021 at 12:29 am | #

    I see coming out wasn’t a thing during the time skip. I guess we still have something to look forward to.

  19. Illithid
    Illithid
    January 10, 2021 at 12:30 am | #

    Worst part of getting new frames: you don’t really know how you look in them, because your lenses aren’t in.

    • Rosicrucian
      Rosicrucian
      January 10, 2021 at 12:34 am | #

      She’s nearsighted, so she can see that much.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        January 10, 2021 at 4:42 am | #

        And not enough that she has to mash her face in the mirror (yet, anyway).

        • Regalli
          Regalli
          January 10, 2021 at 12:08 pm | #

          Yeah, I’m bad enough that it was always tricky. The realization a couple years back I could take pictures using my cell phone and compare them was a game-changer.

  20. Axel
    Axel
    January 10, 2021 at 12:32 am | #

    I know she’s trying to help, but with how bad she’s doing at it, it feels like Dotty is either incredibly out of sorts, or is actively trying to make Joyce not want glasses.

    Also no they shouldn’t feel noticeably heavy or pinchy (though the pinchiness might be fixed by getting her own and having the optometrist fit them), she should try a different pair.

    • Shade
      Shade
      January 10, 2021 at 1:41 am | #

      The heavy I can see for your first pair since you’re going from nothing there to something, but yeah if its pinchy the optometrist can adjust those on your pair.

  21. Dave Van Domelen
    Dave Van Domelen
    January 10, 2021 at 12:35 am | #

    And in a few decades, she can freak out over bifocals.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      January 10, 2021 at 4:41 am | #

      I’ve had straight-line bifocals since I was a kid. The hard transition between “distance” and “reading” is reassuring.

      Been considering the no-line progressive lenses this time around though, because reading the dashboard without tilting my head down at it is getting difficult.

      • clif
        clif
        January 10, 2021 at 6:52 am | #

        Trifocals is also a thing.

  22. Nyx
    Nyx
    January 10, 2021 at 12:36 am | #

    Aaaand I just realized a part of why she doesn’t want this is she *doesn’t* want to look like the rest of her family because, you know, the trauma.

    • RacingTurtle
      RacingTurtle
      January 10, 2021 at 12:52 am | #

      Oh, yeah. That. Poor Joyce.

  23. auroki
    auroki
    January 10, 2021 at 12:38 am | #

    It begins!

  24. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    January 10, 2021 at 12:49 am | #

    Oh, hey there.

    Carla is still cutest glasses girl, but room for one more.

  25. Josh Spicer
    Josh Spicer
    January 10, 2021 at 1:03 am | #

    Joe’s gonna lose his mind. Maybe have an awakening. Or at least a reckoning. An actual proper one.

    Either way, Joyce’s complaints about “look like one of my brothers” is valid coming from a sibling, though at this point I look like my sister WITHOUT the glasses.

    Also, Joyce has a point on the Dorothy indoctrinating. A bit of a hyperbole, but I think Dorothy is making her points quite well without having to hammer them in too deep.

  26. KSClaw
    KSClaw
    January 10, 2021 at 1:15 am | #

    As soneone who wears glasses, no, they are not supposed to pinch or feel heavy. Dorothy, I know you’re trying to be encouraging, but it’s not working right now. To Joyce, no doubt this feels like ludicrous speed. You gotta slow down.

    • Rikunda
      Rikunda
      January 10, 2021 at 1:31 am | #

      She could have properly educated her then about the nose pads being adjustable.

      • KSClaw
        KSClaw
        January 10, 2021 at 6:32 am | #

        Exactly. The only way you stop noticing, is when they’re probably adjusted.

  27. crow
    crow
    January 10, 2021 at 1:18 am | #

    Joyce should dye her hair to distinguish herself from the rest of the family.

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      January 10, 2021 at 1:54 am | #

      I can’t imagine what Joyce might look like with a different hair color.

      • a/snow/mous/e
        a/snow/mous/e
        January 10, 2021 at 3:21 pm | #

        It’s hard to picture.

    • WanderingLynx
      WanderingLynx
      January 10, 2021 at 2:22 am | #

      YES YES YES. A fantasy color! Pink would look striking on her 😀

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        January 10, 2021 at 2:40 am | #

        Joyce with PINK hair? That’s like one of my Japanese animes.

        • King Daniel
          King Daniel
          January 10, 2021 at 6:00 am | #

          But what if she has pink hair AND glasses? That seems thoroughly, truly, and altogether inconceivable!

          • clif
            clif
            January 10, 2021 at 6:47 am | #

            Joyce with glasses, as expected, looks very little different. Joyce with pink hair works surprisingly well.

    • zee
      zee
      January 10, 2021 at 11:23 am | #

      Eh, they always have for me. The feeling of them on my nose isn’t something I ever got used to, even when I had the nose piece perfectly measured. At home i usually wedge the arms under my headphones so they sort of hover over my nose

    • Bysmerian
      Bysmerian
      January 10, 2021 at 5:03 pm | #

      I’ve been half expecting something to happen to Joyce’s hair, tbh.

  28. Chris Phoenix
    Chris Phoenix
    January 10, 2021 at 1:19 am | #

    ObPolitics:

    “Divide the country?”
    “Yes – jail the seditionists.”

    • Geneseepaw
      Geneseepaw
      January 10, 2021 at 1:31 am | #

      I b’lieve a presidential thingy was passed 6-7 months ago, that’s it is an automatic 10 years for rioters damaging federal property.
      The irony took me a day to figure out.

      • clif
        clif
        January 10, 2021 at 6:39 am | #

        Trump Monument Executive Order.

        • clif
          clif
          January 10, 2021 at 6:58 am | #

          Irony is taking selfies of yourself to prove you were committing insurrection.

          • Uly
            Uly
            January 10, 2021 at 8:17 pm | #

            That’s not ironic, that’s just ill-advised.

  29. BarerMender
    BarerMender
    January 10, 2021 at 1:24 am | #

    Joyce’s last speech would just about tear it for me if I were Dorothy. “Joyce, if I can’t offer advice without hearing ‘indoctrination,’ I’m walking away from you.”

    • clif
      clif
      January 10, 2021 at 7:07 am | #

      I could be wrong, but I doubt Dorothy has heard the word ‘indoctrination’ leave Joyce’s lips before.

      Good friends are the people you like in spite of their annoying imperfections. Well, that and the fact that they are willing to ignore yours.

  30. SuperFroakie82
    SuperFroakie82
    January 10, 2021 at 1:33 am | #

    Honestly, I don’t think I’d actually care about getting glasses that much, but I’m kinda agreeing with Joyce here. What Dorothy’s saying that at some point you’ll get used to them and you’ll think you don’t look like yourself without them, and this complete reversal of how your brain processes things, changing how you think, is completely out of your control and will happen whether you like it or not. That’s weird! I like having control over my own thoughts about things thank you very much, not having them decided by an outside force. Of course, this is a major exaggeration of what is actually happening, and minor changes that affect how you think happen all the time and aren’t a big deal at all, but having the fact that even your own mind isn’t fully under your control pointed out so directly does feel kinda weird. At least, that’s why I feel weird about it, maybe Joyce’s reason is actually completely different.

    • clif
      clif
      January 10, 2021 at 7:17 am | #

      Pretty sure that the only control you usually have over your own thoughts is that you usually hide most of them from yourself. This is not exactly cutting news.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        January 10, 2021 at 10:26 am | #

        Well yeah, but I’m used to hiding that from myself.

      • SuperFroakie82
        SuperFroakie82
        January 11, 2021 at 12:12 am | #

        Well, you at least feel like you have the opinions you do for a reason, and that they make sense, right? And if your opinion changes it’s usually because you think about it and consciously change your mind, so that’s some sort of control I’d think.

        • SuperFroakie82
          SuperFroakie82
          January 11, 2021 at 12:40 am | #

          Idk, I guess this is basically just saying that people’s opinions can change, which is obvious. I guess the weird part is being told that your opinion WILL change, without knowing why it will change and cause your current opinion to not make sense anymore when it makes perfect sense to you right now. It brings up thoughts of like, what if what I believe right now is right and the other way is wrong and now I’m gonna be forced to be wrong for the rest of my life. Or, my current opinion doesn’t actually make any more or less sense than the other one and my internal reasoning is actually meaningless, so I can never actually know if what I believe is right and makes sense. But I guess that’s probably more just a personal fear of my thoughts turning out to be objectively wrong and bad, even though that’s not actually how it works. But I don’t even know why I’m writing this still since the new post is already up and no one’s gonna see this, I guess it’s just to get my thoughts written out.

  31. Geneseepaw
    Geneseepaw
    January 10, 2021 at 1:33 am | #

    So get yourself some glasses with big dark frames,
    With lenses so dark they won’t even know your name,
    And try to stop sedition from the masses,
    And get yourself some cheap sunglasses.

    • Bicycle Bill
      Bicycle Bill
      January 10, 2021 at 1:36 am | #

      I’m doing all right, getting good grades
      The future’s so bright, I gotta wear shades

      • woobie
        woobie
        January 10, 2021 at 2:59 pm | #

        I wear my sunglasses at night
        So I can, so I can
        Watch you weave then breathe your story lines

  32. Carms
    Carms
    January 10, 2021 at 1:33 am | #

    Jocelyn (?) wears glasses right? She is going to FREAK. imagine seeing yourself in your little sister like that. That’s ME. why is Joyce ME?

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      January 10, 2021 at 4:36 am | #

      Joyce can be her Mini-Me.

      • Geneseepaw
        Geneseepaw
        January 10, 2021 at 6:29 am | #

        All right, here are 5 upvotes. Fine.

      • Khyrin
        Khyrin
        January 10, 2021 at 10:46 am | #

        it might trigger a little bit of disphoria, but I feel like Jocelyn has been REALLY good at tamping down on her own issues to help a hurting sibling. It might be helpful or it might hurt, but I feel like Jocelyn thoughtlessly complimenting Joyce before getting a hold of herself might improve Joyce’s attitude vis-à-vis glasses.

  33. Chaucer59
    Chaucer59
    January 10, 2021 at 2:08 am | #

    No, it’s NOT supposed to feel all heavy and pinchy. Heavy glasses cause my sinuses to clog. Keep looking, Joyce. Don’t pick uncomfortable glasses.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      January 10, 2021 at 4:35 am | #

      I doubt they’re that bad. The flat placeholder lenses they come with weigh nothing. It’s just that she’s not used to wearing any at all, and the off-the-rack demo pair hasn’t been adjusted for her.

      She’s also completely done with the whole situation, so she’s predisposed to knee-jerk negativity right now.

  34. WanderingLynx
    WanderingLynx
    January 10, 2021 at 2:21 am | #

    I want Joce to come out, transition fully, and give Joyce a hug as long as both of them clearly need. LIFE HAS CHEATED BOTH OF THEM OFF ONE, OK. Joyce doesn’t know she’s not the only Brown sister, she’s stated before she would’ve loved to have one, and maybe that way she’ll realize family resemblance while female doesn’t mean Looking Like Her Mom. Or that wearing glasses doesn’t make her look like John, or Jordan who’s been banished (which probs means good things) – Something that also plays into her fears.

    While a part of me really wants to see her in the Julia Gray shades, I don’t think those are what she picks. WHAT WILL IT BE? For both thematic and characterization reasons I doubt it’ll be contacts :’)

  35. Bagge
    Bagge
    January 10, 2021 at 3:03 am | #

    Becky will have another of those “Hurt itself in its confusion” moments when she sees Joyce in glasses, won’t she?

    • Schpoonman
      Schpoonman
      January 10, 2021 at 3:41 am | #

      99% chance.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      January 10, 2021 at 6:03 am | #

      I suspect Becky, Joe, and Danny will all have one of those moments at some point.

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        January 10, 2021 at 6:25 am | #

        Let’s add Jacob to the set

        • JBento
          JBento
          January 10, 2021 at 6:58 am | #

          Let’s not add Jacob to anything, and be better off that way.

          • Bagge
            Bagge
            January 10, 2021 at 11:02 pm | #

            I’m sure he will be allowed to enjoy a nice, drama free time at campus, because that’s totally how anyone’s life work in this comic.

            • Needfuldoer
              Needfuldoer
              January 11, 2021 at 2:30 am | #

              Beef and Tony have that market cornered (and after what they went through in the Walkyverse, they deserve it).

  36. Fairygothmama
    Fairygothmama
    January 10, 2021 at 3:06 am | #

    This storyline reminds me I need an eye appointment and new bifocals.

  37. NinjaNick
    NinjaNick
    January 10, 2021 at 3:10 am | #

    That doesn’t look so bad.

  38. Varangian
    Varangian
    January 10, 2021 at 3:49 am | #

    Oh no

    Megane Joyce is powerful

    I wasn’t ready

  39. Keulen
    Keulen
    January 10, 2021 at 4:03 am | #

    Yay, finally Joyce looking cute wearing glasses!

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      January 10, 2021 at 4:14 am | #

      By the way, this may be my favorite song about girls with glasses.

  40. fishamaphone
    fishamaphone
    January 10, 2021 at 4:29 am | #

    Me, to myself: “Huh. Does it feel wrong to me when my nose isn’t being pinched?”

    Me: *takes off glasses for a moment*

    Me: “AAAAAAA I CAN’T SEEEEEEEE!!!!”

    Me: *puts glasses back on*

    Me: “Oh, whew, I can see again. What was it I was trying to check?”

  41. BenRG
    BenRG
    January 10, 2021 at 4:32 am | #

    JOYCE: “Oh gosh! I look like Joshua!”

    That night, after having run into Booster at in the canteen, Joyce starts wondering if she actually looked like one of her brothers at all…

    Yes, I’m wondering we’re at the very beginning of Joyce finding out the truth about Jocelyn.

    • a/snow/mous/e
      a/snow/mous/e
      January 10, 2021 at 3:23 pm | #

      i doubt it, but hopefully this is setting up for more Jocelyn in the near future?

      • a/snow/mous/e
        a/snow/mous/e
        January 10, 2021 at 3:30 pm | #

        (that is, i don’t think Joyce would come up with the idea organically. being in the closet, you can act pretty normal and nobody [even family members] will have the idea you’re hiding something without you telling them, unless they start actively spying on you)

        (ok i guess i could have been more careful not to have lewd chats when not in my room)

  42. TheFlamingonator
    TheFlamingonator
    January 10, 2021 at 5:40 am | #

    JOYCE just cut your hair and style it a lil and youll look like Dotty in those glasses

  43. TemplarKnight
    TemplarKnight
    January 10, 2021 at 6:32 am | #

    So, I got a pair of Oakley Airdrops in 2019 and they are literally the most comfortable glasses I have ever worn. This year when I was trying to spend down my FSA and get a new pair of glasses, I tried some other pairs of frames and they just couldn’t reach the same level of comfort, so I ended up buying a second pair of the exact same frames.

    Such a waste.

    • clif
      clif
      January 10, 2021 at 6:44 am | #

      Having a spare pair of glasses is never a waste.

      • woobie
        woobie
        January 10, 2021 at 3:04 pm | #

        I have 4 pairs, two current and two last prescription. Because I need a pair in the car, one at work, one at home, one for when I misplace one of the others, and (5) one that is reading prescription on the entire lens.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      January 10, 2021 at 9:10 am | #

      Last time I got new frames, I liked the first pair I pulled off the rack. Turns out they were literally the same exact frames I walked in wearing. Same model, color, everything.

      So now I have two identical frames.

    • Roborat
      Roborat
      January 11, 2021 at 4:15 pm | #

      FSA? field service allowance?

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        January 12, 2021 at 8:50 pm | #

        (Assuming you’re not joking) Flexible Spending Account.

        When you set your health plan up with your employer during open enrollment, you can opt to have pre-tax money deducted from your check and put into what’s effectively a checking account with a debit card. You can then use that card to pay out of pocket health care expenses.

        It’s kind of like getting a 30% discount because you’re not paying income tax on it, but there are some downsides. They’re strict about what you can pay for with it (no booze and scratch-offs), you have to provide paperwork and receipts and justify everything paid with the card, and you can only carry a few hundred dollars over year to year if you’re lucky. (The surplus is forfeit and may as well just evaporate into the ether.)

        It’s either a great way to save money on the overpriced American healthcare industry, or a pain in the ass red tape scam, depending on how much you use it and which carrier your employer foists upon you.

  44. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    January 10, 2021 at 6:55 am | #

    Sorry, Joyce, you look like all of your brothers.

    • Khyrin
      Khyrin
      January 10, 2021 at 10:50 am | #

      and, y’know… Her SISTER.

      • C.T Phipps
        C.T Phipps
        January 10, 2021 at 4:35 pm | #

        Eh, maybe Joyce doesn’t think she looks like her. 🙂

  45. Sam
    Sam
    January 10, 2021 at 7:13 am | #

    Personally, I would have recommended rectangular ones to try first. I just like the look of rectangles better for glasses despite not wearing any myself.

  46. RedCat
    RedCat
    January 10, 2021 at 7:19 am | #

    You actually look very much like your sister, Joyce 😛

  47. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    January 10, 2021 at 7:50 am | #

    The thing that amazes me the most is that this is happening right now even to Kat in “Heart of the city” as well. But Kat makes way fewer complaints about the glasses she tries on.

  48. Daibhid C
    Daibhid C
    January 10, 2021 at 8:40 am | #

    I continue to sympathise with Joyce, only backwards.

    As I mentioned before, I got used to glasses being part of “what I look like” at a very early age. But the last time I got new glasses, I was given a selection of stylish unobtrusive frames. And in the back of my head a voice was screaming “No! I wear glasses that take up half my face like pre-makeover Amber! That’s my thing!” I got over it eventually.

    • CJ
      CJ
      January 10, 2021 at 11:18 am | #

      When I went from attention grabbing frames to no-rim with titanium wisps.
      And I started to wear the old pair when using a fbp2 mask, because they are heavier and not hoisted so much by the mask (multifocals lifted are a real pain)

  49. FacelessDeviant
    FacelessDeviant
    January 10, 2021 at 8:51 am | #

    Haha, she’s had enough indoctrination. In college 😀

  50. Black
    Black
    January 10, 2021 at 9:32 am | #

    Technically speaking, glasses should rest on your nose, not pinch it, but obviously adjustments can be made.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      January 10, 2021 at 1:13 pm | #

      They’re a sample pair fresh off the rack, that hasn’t been adjusted to fit her at all.

      Definitely somebody’s first time picking out frames!

  51. Kirdei
    Kirdei
    January 10, 2021 at 9:40 am | #

    That mirror is haunted! Get out of there Joyce!

  52. foducool
    foducool
    January 10, 2021 at 9:55 am | #

    as a glasses wearer myself, I can definitely say that it feels wrong when I’m not wearing them, and not because I have vision troubles ^^

  53. Borg
    Borg
    January 10, 2021 at 1:41 pm | #

    Speak for yourself. With light frames you stop being able to tell the difference between wearing and not wearing your glasses until you try to look at something far away/close up (depending on the correction needed).

  54. Otl1973
    Otl1973
    January 10, 2021 at 1:54 pm | #

    Joyce’s reaction implies she’s never worn even a pair of sunglasses before. I guess that’s possible (Willis didn’t show her wearing them while driving or at the “beach”), but at least where I live it seems odd. Maybe the sun isn’t as bright in Indiana. I can understand Willis not wanting to bother drawing them, but the implication is that it’s never happened even “off screen”.

    • Sam
      Sam
      January 10, 2021 at 2:57 pm | #

      I have sunglasses that don’t have the nose parts of normal glasses (it is one solid piece with foldable legs) but I also don’t regularly wear sunglasses, which is possibly true for Joyce too.

  55. Galatae
    Galatae
    January 10, 2021 at 2:15 pm | #

    Please get her into contacts. Out of character, but damn it will be hilarious to see joyce touch her eyeballs.

  56. Dracke
    Dracke
    January 10, 2021 at 3:25 pm | #

    One of us , one of us, one of us

  57. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    January 10, 2021 at 4:21 pm | #

    That panel #4 Joyce though…

  58. anon
    anon
    January 10, 2021 at 4:50 pm | #

    LOL i always hated that so eventually i got the frames that didn’t have the ‘pinchy’ thing in the middle haha XD; (at the very least joyce should be able to find ones that are more adjustable b/c sometimes there are stuff that’s too small/pinchy)

  59. Blue62
    Blue62
    January 10, 2021 at 4:59 pm | #

    I’m legitimately surprised that Willis resisted giving Joyce glasses for as long as he did.

  60. hof1991
    hof1991
    January 10, 2021 at 6:14 pm | #

    Get Joyce army style glasses, know to many as “birth control devices”. It’ll help her stay a virgin, though some wear them ironically now. Not like beer goggles. https://taskandpurpose.com/history/brief-history-militarys-unsightly-birth-control-glasses/

  61. Opus the Poet
    Opus the Poet
    January 10, 2021 at 10:36 pm | #

    Can confirm after more than 60 years in glasses not wearing them feels like public nudity. And after 30 years as a practicing Witch I know what public nudity feels like. I have led more than a few skyclad rituals, both with and without my glasses.

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      January 10, 2021 at 11:02 pm | #

      Missed a digit there, I have only been wearing glasses since 12, not since age 2.

    • HeySo
      HeySo
      January 11, 2021 at 3:11 pm | #

      “I have led more than a few skyclad rituals, both with and without my glasses.”

      Does that mean you’re doubly nude at certain times? Are you like, the fusion-danced doublemint twin of nudity? Double the nudity, double the fun (under the sun! Well, I’d hope- moon just doesn’t have the same rhyme appeal).

      Hmm. Though perhaps Mentos is the better slogan reference point for this..
      “Stay Fresh!”

      Actually, thanks to this topic, I’ve just discovered that “NUDE” brand mints exist [just google “nude mints”, or go to nudemints.com for a flavor listing midway down the page]. Whelp, guess we can firmly lock in your breath freshening brand association, then.. 😛

      Bright side, you can now refer to yourself as “Sexy Spearmint” and “Mad Melon”. I think we can count that as a win. ^.^

  62. HeySo
    HeySo
    January 11, 2021 at 3:03 pm | #

    I’d have to argue with what Dorothy is peddling, there. The nosepads on the metal frames never got familiar, due to how exceedingly uncomfortable they are, even after decades. Plastic frames that sit right on the nose are a massive pain to align right but, hell if they aren’t a heck of a lot more comfortable and much easier to feel familarity/comfort with having on. Frankly, I gotta imagine this is some kind of weird masochistic fetish specific to Dorothy..

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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
www.ebay.com/itm/23609184... 5 hours left on my 4-jet titans return tidal wave
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Check out those stickers. They make him look pretty great, actually. That aircraft carrier mode shines. Tidal Wave is loose and incomplete! So there's only four (4) jets!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
confirming that the reason there's been no Galaxy Version female characters in Blokees until now is that they felt they needed to make Round Lady Thighs For Ladies
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Dumbing of Age: "For you" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
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For you
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
y'know there's not an awful lot of rocketeering in The Rocketeer
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wint @dril.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
buddy you came to the wrong ass to fuck
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Man if they were arresting judges then this'd be the dumbest fucking thing I've ever heard but thankfully that's not happening.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Stop making the one toy I want the super-expensive chase, Auldey!!!!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
And that's why you have Jesus wear a condom!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
It's #webcomicday? We have a special day??? Well, my name is Pat McHoarney and I draw 69 Mouse-Ear Blvd, a multigenerational story about women who all have sexy legs and probably other features. There was a grandmother, but she wasn't hot and so she died off-panel.
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hoanna newsom @bsweet.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
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Elizabeth Holmes is in prison for defrauding investors through her blood-testing company, Theranos. Her partner, Billy Evans, is now trying to raise money for a company that describes itself as “the future of diagnostics.” nyti.ms/3FbtZm9
Elizabeth Holmes and Billy Evans, sitting closely on a couch. A headline reads:
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Chris McFeely @chrismcfeely.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
That's the most upsetting LEGO Thing minifig possible
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LEGO Marvel Studios The Fantastic Four: First Steps Fantastic Four vs. Galactus will release June 1st ($59.99) - bit.ly/3F4uRci #ad
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
what's going on with tariffs right now i dunno, what time is it today
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Chet @sealless.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
This @bransonreese.bsky.social four panel is never completely out of my head.
Four panel comic by Brandon Reese titled Animal Crackers.  In each panel Groucho Marx is speaking.

1 - One morning I shot an elephant in my pajamas 
2 - How I worked up the courage to kill a living thing I'll never know.
3 - (silent)
4 - They mourn their dead, as we do.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
www.ebay.com/itm/23609767... selling my netflix war for cybertron megatron -- the walmart exclusive one that came with pinpointer and lionizer (but being sold here without pinpointer and lionizer)
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Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Transformers Siege Netflix Megatron complete Hasbro WFC Generations Voyager at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many prod...
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Gran... IS ALIVE? okay, juliette still has brown hair, so this is probably definitely a flashback i'm just surprised that the comic has remembered her, at all
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