I mean, just, well…
So did you bring the popcorn, or what?
I’m guessing she doesn’t know yet. If she does though, I may need to borrow Sarah’s baseball bat.
Lucky for you there’s a perfectly capable mike with two fists right here.
And now we know why he is there.
That was some damn good foreshadowing, if true.
Which I’m sure Walky will say IS true now XD
This IS the first time she’s been in the comic since she was interviewed by Dorothy, so I guess she could be uninformed enough to not know about this.
Hell, that was even before Ryan got overtly Rapey.
This was my thought, that she is simply unaware of what happened.
Probably would want to keep it that way. Such morally
demanding issue tends to greatly inconvenience the needs
of people like her to scream “WOOOOOOOOOOOOO!” chug
booze, and visit like they often do just about everywhere else.
Feel free to drag Roz aboard the guilt train, Joyce. She could use
I think I’ll take the Gutsy Bat, instead.
How aboout just a “clue bat”. No one gets expelled then.
I am surprised tat there’s no “Clunk” sound effect for the jaws hitting the floor.
OK… I’ve been reading every day, how come I don’t know what she is talking about or what the big deal is?
Your Gravatar makes this meta.
Umm… look at what happened on the Friday night in question – http://www.dumbingofage.com/category/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/
Remember – time passes SLOWLY in this comic.
Yes time dose pass quite slowly, which makes it very hard to remember details from several months ago.
…which is why I linked to it.
True, although I wouldn’t consider Joyce nearly getting raped to be a detail. More like a major plot point.
I can see why she views herself as the heroic martyr with her finger on the pulse of society and joyce as the ignorant closeminded shut-in
It was Dorothy I think she viewed as closeminded. Joyce and Roz dont talk much.
Because Joyce is a good judge of character is my bet.
well they did have that whole explosive argument about each other’s flowers so there’s that. plus roz did call her a fundie and was shocked to hear that she was at the party, hoping that she would be “actually learning something” which ironically she did: some guys are scumbags
Hmmm there are a few comments on here that make me think people don’t really get Roz’s character. She is about freeing women from their gender roles, with the sexual freedom side being her priority. I guarantee if she knew Joyce almost got raped she would be livid. Also, unless you really dig, you hardly ever know what caused a college party fight. Not everyone is omnipotent.
STUPID NOT-SEXY FIGHTS
There’s Roz, displaying all the sensitivity of a rock.
That’s assuming she knew what really happened, her tune might change if she knew about the attempted rape.
Seriously, who knew Velma could be sexy?
Hardly. May I direct you to the ORIGINAL Scooby Doo.
Velma was created to be a dumpy unattractive brain girl.
In the recent movies, they just took an attractive girl and tried to make her look frumpy.
People were attracted to Velma long before the live action movie. For much of the same reasons people might be attracted to say, Amber.
The bigger question is who actually thought Daphne was the ‘pretty one’?
But I also thought Scrappy was awesome, so my perception probably isn’t worth much.
i dont like what you’re implying about rocks. my pet rock archibold von igneous is the most sensitive friend and greatest listener i have ever encountered.
they actually take the time to listen. I miss my rock…he-he sadly eroded…
Yeah, it’s hard to outlive a pet. Especially since most rocks only last a few thousand years.
Even less if they’re sandstone and you live in a windy area. But those are the risks of owning a purebred.
It’s easy to take them for granite.
I marbled at how quickly he went.
Too many rock puns can leave one quite jaded.
I’m laughing so hard, I think I may have chipped a tooth.
Seriously, these puns are rocking my world!
You ore very punny.
Pass the basalt, please.
All these rock puns are bringing back memories of my geology classes. Makes me feel sedimental.
As the river said, “my sediments exactly”.
Don’t blame me for that one, it’s not my fault,
it’s San Andreas fault!
That’s not gneiss!
And in tribute to Plasma Mongoose’s Thelma gravatar:
BLASPHEMER! You dare besmirch the holy name of Velma!?
Don’t be misLEAD Jetstream.
Thanks Hamster, it’s better slate than never.
Speaking of that avatar, do you know who the artist is?
@Valdrax: Here is the original picture of Velma I based my grav on.
Thank you, and oh my!
(Warning: mildly nsfw.)
I prefer this
Obviously, I meant Velma. I think I need more sleep and less internets.
I wish someone would explain to me where Thelma even came from in my brain.
Thelma and Louise?
That’s about the only thing I’ve ever seen that name in.
I’m sorry for your loss. Chalk this one up to experience.
Let me show you this handy little graphite.
It’s slated to happen to everyone.
We know it’s hard. You might feel like a piece of schist.
But you just gotta tuff it out, feel a little boulder, and enjoy
your own years before they argon.
i’m not usually so sedimental but im all choked up now
Runs in the family, perhaps?
And now add one dose of insensitive bitch to the equation, and the show takes yet another turn.
I think Roz is about to get bitchslapped by Joyce…
*bops Roz on the forehead with a rolled up newspaper*
Bad. Bad girl.
*squirts roz with squirtbottle* stop making comments based on incomplete information about possibly traumatic events and pooping on the rug! no treat for you!
I don’t think the squirt bottle will work for her, she enjoys getting wet.
Ammonia to the face is never good. Oh, wait, that’s my squirt bottle for when I ride my bicycle… bleach? No, that’s for my dishes… liquid plant food? herbicide? *gets whispered to* Water? Who puts just plain ol’ water into a spray bottle?
Wow, time just DOESN’T fly in this universe.
it is basically a snail piggy-backing a turtle at the moment
No, it’s a turtle piggybacking a snail.
The turtle is piggybacking four (five?) elephants and a large disc.
Maple syrup on the snail, which is on the turtle, which is on top of a copy of Sir Walter Scott’s Ivanhoe.
But is the turtle male or female?
I see someone was watching Robot Chicken tonight…
It honestly took me a moment to figure out that she was talking about the rape party. Because “friday” seemed so long ago.
And “rape party” is the best worst thing I’ve ever said in relation to this comic.
The worst thing so far.
The comic speaks for itself.
Most comics do. At least, ideally.
Panel 5 must have been hard to draw, eh, Willis?
Actually, Joyce’s cup size suddenly became smaller. That, or she inhaled deeply upon hearing Roz talk about the party.
Joyce has mood boobs. They change based on her mood. She’s just slowly adjusting from surprise to anger.
And apparently Dorothy has mood lips. At the beginning of the strip they were a pinkish color. But shortly after she broke up with Danny, they turned this weird chocolate brown color. But since swapping spit with Walky, they’ve become this nice dusty rose color that makes her look better.
I’d say it was lipstick, but it’s sort of a gradual thing. So, mood lips.
well Dorothy’s lips clearly have a much longer change rate than Joyces boobs.
It’s the same artwork, just shrunk. You can tell not just by that, but by the relative distance between the top of Joyce’s head and the top panel border in each one.
I can’t believe how much time I just wasted flicking my eyes back and forth between (non-real) boobs.
I want those 5 minutes back, Mr Willis!
I think that’s just a trick of the shading. The shadow on Joyce in panel 5 is different from in panel 2. I don’t know if that explains it all, though. It could just be shrunk like others have pointed out above.
It seems to be identical in most regards, size included, but there are some minor differences. I superimposed one over the other and changed opacity to 50% and the breasts and the coloring/shading were different, but otherwise, everything lines up the same on both. The lineart on everything but the breasts is the same, but the coloring is unique between them.
Joyce’s hair is different in panel 5 as well.
Oh, Roz, it’s gonna be so cute watching them rip your femurs apart.
Hey, she did not know. She. Did. Not. Know. Just throwing that out there.
Nice to know that I’m not the only one to realise this.
we all realise this. I just think 40% of us just don’t care for Roz
Then again, until recently most of the commenters in SP! hated Faz.
and most still hate Malaya. Personally I like this Roz of SP! Roz.
I’m really, really, really hoping you are right.
Probably, but this is Roz we’re talking about.
I wouldn’t put it past the SP version at least to not really care.
I’m willing to give her the first one, but carrying on about the dumb fight really reduces the sympathy available to her. I think Dotty’s agape face and Joyce’s death glare are enough to indicate to most people that you just said something back.
My name is Joyce Brown, and YOU WILL FEAR MY LASER FACE!
Yeah, but if I were a betting man (and I am; I just tend to lose frequently), I’d say even if she did find out what happened, she’d probably just blow it off as “the fundie overreacting to someone just trying to get her to loosen up and have a good time” or something.
Roz strikes me as the type of person who doesn’t give a flying butt taco about anyone else’s feelings or opinions, but by God, you’d better respect HER right to live HER life HER way!
To me, that just doesn’t jive with the Roz who is handing out condoms, urging people to have protected sex, and talking about owning your sexuality. I think she would be very much opposed to the idea of someone taking away your ability to consent or trying to have sex with you against your wishes.
But it does jive with SP! Roz, who stalked and harassed a guy who’d turned her down until he finally gave in and slept with her. Roz is the kind of sextivist who thinks everyone should be having lots of safe, happy sex; someone who doesn’t want to have sex for reason Roz thinks are BS (religion, sex addiction, etc) isn’t going to find much support from her.
But Roz never drugged him to have her way. She may not support someone’s moral reasons for abstaining, but that doesn’t necessarily mean she supports taking away their right to choose. Roz doesn’t believe in sexual addiction, so the way she sees it, Jacob freely chose to have sex with her.
That aside Willis has stated that DoA is not SP. This Roz is not that Roz. You can’t judge DoA Roz based on SP Roz’s actions.
Roz was way to busy partying in the back of someone’s car to know about Joyce.
The need for an edit button…
Believe you me, there are a number of times when I wish I could edit a post, if only for the first 5 minutes afterwards.
You were right the first time.
In the context of Splash*Boogie’s sentence, “way too busy” would have been the correct use.
Oh. Right. Looking at the wrong ‘to.’ (to know about)
I too wish there was an option to edit posts.
That would probably require some sort of registration and login based board software, so DO NOT WANT.
Seriously, if you want me to create an account first and go through some elaborate email verification system, I’m not generally going to bother. (This counts for web stores as well.)
Óoooo dear jesus
He hasn’t shown up in this comic yet.
I`M YOUR BIGGEST FAN!
GIMME A HANDSHAKE PLEASETHX!!
Is he the Jesus with antlers, the Son of the Dear God?
Hey. one party isn’t going to date rape you. oh wait.
Stay classy, Roz.
i dont always cause awkward silences, but when i do i make sure its because i unknowingly made an insensitive comment about daterape
And take it from me, making sure to do something unknowingly is hard!
I would say “Awkward”, but that would be the understatement of the year.
It’s hard to imagine how large of a foot Roz just put in her mouth.
Australian Size 14? I’m not familiar with American shoe measurements.
American size 10
UK size 12
Germany size 38
Did you already know that or did you google size size conversions?
If mech knew the conversions I would hope mech is an expert on shoes. If not I will question mech’s sanity.
size size conversions = shoe size conversions
Google, the way you actually have to convert these is kind of dificult since Europe uses 2/3 cm for every shoe point and UK is last shoe sizes x 3 -12
huh? isn’t american size 10 the equivalente to UK size 8? O.o
Uk is 9.5 i messed up.
Nope. Wrong direction. American sizes are the ones that sound smaller.
Unless that’s only clothes, not shoes. I haven’t got a clue with shoes.
Pretty sure it’s the UK ones that are a smaller number, because I am a size 9 US and about a 4 or a 5 UK.
Joyce looks like an amazon next to Dot and Roz… Could there be “another dumb fight”?
Joyce is standing while Dorothy and Roz are sitting down. In case her over-large appearance is what you’re referring to.
… If Roz is about to condone sexual assualt she is going to become my least favorite character.
It was so nice to have a sexually active female character who stood up for herself so well about it. It would suck to have that go along with promoting rape culture.
I doubt she’d do that, but she might blame Joyce for being such a shut-in that she couldn’t detect a predator.
Which would be at least putting a toe over that line. Blaming the victim is not something a good feminist (or a decent human being in general) does.
Really doubt she is. No reason to assume she had any idea what was happening.
Figure we’ll see tomorrow.
At least wait until we find out if Roz knew about what Ryan did before passing final sentence, OK?
Yes, I know, I feel like it was clear that I hadn’t passed judgment yet.
I am thinking Roz didn’t realize that Joyce was being sexually assaulted, rather she assuming two idiots got into a fist fight, as she was probably elsewhere when it happened.
Considering Roz’s general political philosophy, I doubt she’d condone sexual assault. Then again, in Sp!, she denied the existence of sex addiction, so who knows. People’s politics aren’t always internally consistent.
Perhaps this will be their chance to share a common view. Roz can admit that not all sex is good, and Joyce can admit that not all feminism is about hating housewives.
I think Roz’s sheer apathy or lack observational skills may have just now caused Dorothy have an stroke or aneurysm.
I know that she is probably (and understandably) about to flip out on Roz in the next comic or two, but I am getting a kick out of her facial expression in this one.
I applaud you Willis for not simply copy/pasting panels 2 and 5. Bravo!
Why is today’s comic called Peter? Is it some kind of reference I am unfamiliar with?
Background guy’s name is now canonically Peter.
I was gonna say that after just reading the title, I assumed we’d discovered green-shirt guy was named Peter.
your mom was not used to a peter. Mike taught her about it for a nickel
peter means to slowly lose energy. the party petered out as in lost energy cuz there was an attempted rape
plus, roz is acting like a dick.
Wouldn’t that be more of a Richard than a Peter?
Roz is is reaching Malaya levels of insensitivity.
I read that as “Roz is is reaching Malaria levels of insensitivity.”
I was going to say since this was Roz’s party I thought someone who knew would tell her what happened but with so much going on I can understand why she wouldn’t know at all. We’ll see what happens when she finds out. That is if Dorothy or Joyce decide to tell her at all.
it wasnt actually roz’s party, it was ron’s, roz was just invited/inviting to the party. she and ron probably did some journalism together at some point
Thanks for the clarification. All this time I thought it was Roz’s party.
Agreed. I can understand of being willfully ignorant a a fight at a party. As per my experience I do not investigate the motive of the fight and the persons involved in the fight. All I would register in such a situation is that some kids got into a fight bringing the mood of the party down.
Unless she knew about the whole thing and is asking them as a part of her character trait. That would put her in the running for Amiza-girl arch enemy “Super B*Word”.
“I’m not going to say b*words”
I am guessing she didn’t knew about the attempted rape… please let it be that…
Well, to be fair, she might not even be referring to Ryan’s attack on Joyce. Before that, in the background, you can see Amazi-Girl beating up the football players who, even earlier than that, tried to beat Danny up.
Terah, you are absolutely right! And honestly, do you expect everyone at one big party to know about every fight that happens? Also, didn’t they kind of agree not to tell anyone, therefore the story of the rape attempt wouldn’t have gotten far amongst peers.
I…HOPE…she didn’t know about what happened. Because if she knows, and approves…ugh. We have our new candidate for Worst Person of the Strip.
Obviously she doesn’t know…. which, still, wow. What a tool.
Yeah, I’m pretty sure she doesn’t know, but I also wouldn’t put it past being a twist that Roz heard about it, and decided that it wasn’t rape, just overprotective busybodies keeping Joyce from having “fun.”
I mean, Roz is already a straw(wo)man, anyway.
Actually I’m pretty sure Willis doesn’t even mean for us to all hate her so much. And I really doubt Roz would be ok with it at all.
Still hate her though.
I’m not excusing Roz or anything, but I’m pretty sure the actual attempted rapist still ranks worse. Because, you know, he thought she was being too dramatic about it too.
That avatar and comment fit perfectly.
I got a nice laugh out of this. Now, I’m inclined to believe Roz didn’t know.
Doesn’t make the awkward go away but at least it’s due to ignorance.
Wow, suddenly I really want to slap Roz
And suddenly Roz’ head exploded.
And then it exploded AGAIN!
This is what needs to happen to Roz.
Dorothy wins for best facial expression. Just saying.
Well it’s only been a weekend and nobody (none of the Main Characters) really talked to Roz, so I’d say there’s a 99% chance she didn’t hear about it.
There is literally no way that someone like her would ever think a sexual assault victim was being melodramatic.
I think there are some ways–it’s called being a naive self-absorbed idiot. However if a character who is so strongly in favour in people being able to do whatever they want with their bodies, (which includes the right to say no,) turns out to not see the big deal or whatever in this case… well, I’m gonna be more than a little disappointed.
Dorothy’s face has ‘new avatar’ written all over it…..
Maybe Joyce’s too.
Joyce’s, definitely. I have *never* seen that look on her face before. XD
the level of awkward in this strip is ridiculous
And the shit.
Although I am curious as to whether or not this is the “show” make alluded to earlier. I don’t remember him ever learning Roz was unaware of the incident, or even Mike being aware of it himself.
make = Mike
Considering how cryptic Mike was being, it’s possible he knew this exact scenario was about to go down.
Note if Mike knew about the incident, there would be body parts all over the school.
I had to come in to comments to understand this strip, time runs so slow I didn’t realize it was the rape. We have 2 totally different non-conversations going on here-I hope. And Wack’d-it’s a diskworld atop 4 elephants atop the world turtle. Don’t know about the elephants but the turtle is rumored to be female. [Terry Pratchett ?]
So nobody’s actually addressed why exactly Joyce is glaring. Is it because she knows Dorothy wants to tell Roz what happened, and doesn’t want word to get out? Is the reason Dorothy hasn’t actually said anything, despite her open mouth, because she can feel Joyce’s glare on the back of her head?
That’s how I read it, but I wouldn’t put it beyond the realm of possibility that Joyce could start telling Roz all about it tomorrow.
In all fairness, She was ALMOST raped.
if she was ACTUALLY raped, then that would be awful. Almost raped is nothing.
(PLEASE DEAR GOD KNOW THAT I AM JOKING)
I know you’re joking and it doesn’t particularly matter, you’re still being shitty.
stop before you hurt yourself
Open mouth A, insert foot B.
Due to the fact that Roz clearly didn’t bother to find out what that fight was about and assumed it was a drunken fight and not an attempted rape situation, I’m not going to get too pissed off at her here (yet). But still… the insensitivity of the comment really hurts.
A drunken fight is also nothing to dismiss lightly. People have DIED from drunken fights, and weapons don’t even need to be involved. (Don’t get me wrong though. I’m more miffed at Roz than you. )
Yes, that’s true, but drunk fights are usually over misunderstandings or stupid over-reactions that results in one or both parties with a few bruised faces or egos. Their are of course exceptions, but its usually not someone’s intent to go out drink and then to kill someone or hurt someone.
Rape on the other hand is more often than not, the result of someone having a predatory agenda to perform get sex by any means, regardless of anyone else.
So in-comparison, a “dumb drunk fight” that didn’t result in death or extreme injuries (which Roz, I believe, seems to be implying) is much easier to dismiss as a minor annoyance, in comparison to rape.
She might not be referring to the attempted rape at all. There was a fight involving some guys shortly before Joyce went off with Ryan. Roz might mistakenly be assuming that it was this fight that flattened the party.
What’s that white thing behind Roz’s head in panel three?
And now it’s gone, natch, making me look like a crazy person.
Someone needs to tell Roz what happened. I hope Joyce is not the one to do so, with her fists.
Would have loved to have seen an eye twitch from Joyce in the last panel.
Folks, let’s be rational here. We don’t have all the facts yet. She might not know what happened other than some vague details about a fight. I don’t like Roz that much either, but if I’m gonna get worked up into a frenzy it has be with just cause.
Why would anyone assume Roz knows what happened!?
*CLEARLY* she doesn’t.
Not because she’s being insensitive.
Because she called it a drunken fight which, if she knew about it, she’d have known it *wasn’t*. But it did *look* like one to people who didn’t know about it.
Seriously. This comic provides no *more* reason for anyone to be pissed at her. No, she’s not coming of smelling like a rose, but would you seriously try and figure out the circumstances behind what seemed like a drunken fight at a party? I know I wouldn’t.
So yeah. People. If you’re going to be pissed at Roz, YOU SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN PISSED AT HER. To do anything otherwise is to blame her for NOT BEING OMNISCIENT.
I figured she just thought it was an escalation of the fight that broke out just before Joyce went off with Ryan. She walked by just as that fight broke out and later we see Amazi-Girl getting in the middle of it. That and you don’t see Roz anywhere in the crowd that formed around Joyce and co. after Sarah smacked down Ryan, so the odds are she was no where near where it went down. She probably saw a crowd and heard commotion and was uninterested in what was likely, to her, some drunk guys going at it. Can’t really be mad at her for not wanting to mob up and watch people fight.
More specifically she was probably off having sex, and only heard about it third hand.
Willis has created at least three avatar-worthy faces in this strip.
I can’t remember if Roz was the one throwing the party; if she was, then she SHOULD know what happened. Well, hopefully. If it wasn’t her party, then, yeah, I can see where she might have missed the details of what happened.
It was this Ron’s party.
Roz was just attending.
You’re trying to make us hate Roz aren’t you. It’s a sneaky plan so we unanimously hate Roz and then do something that’ll make us guilty for hating Roz… I’m onto you Willis!
This won’t end well.
Except for us, the readers!
The dramatic irony!
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