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Foxhole

by David M Willis on January 1, 2013 at 12:01 am
  • 01 - If the Shoe Splits
└ Tags: dorothy, ethan, joyce, walky

Discussion (101) ¬

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  1. david
    david
    January 1, 2013 at 12:02 am | #

    BA DUM DUM TSSSH

    • JBO
      JBO
      January 1, 2013 at 2:06 am | #

      Wah-wah-waaaaaaaaah

      • Chronos
        Chronos
        January 1, 2013 at 2:58 am | #

        Bum bum bah-dum, WHAAAAAAAOOOOOOOOoooooo

    • Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
      Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
      January 7, 2013 at 12:04 am | #

      That was too funny 😀

  2. Sensedog
    Sensedog
    January 1, 2013 at 12:03 am | #

    Dorothy’s face in the last panel will make a nice gravatar image.

    Also, Happy New Year!

    • CWR
      CWR
      January 2, 2013 at 6:38 am | #

      Was thinking the same for Joyce.

      • petsinwinter
        petsinwinter
        January 3, 2013 at 8:58 pm | #

        Walky’s face is good too

    • Mally
      Mally
      July 23, 2015 at 2:06 am | #

      ‘Who else but Dorothy?’

      Cue canned laughter.

  3. David Herbert
    David Herbert
    January 1, 2013 at 12:03 am | #

    Give it some time Dorothy. Walky will be entering your fox hole soon enough.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      January 1, 2013 at 12:04 am | #

      Will he discover religion when he does?

      • ShadowWing Tronix
        ShadowWing Tronix
        January 1, 2013 at 12:06 am | #

        He’ll discover something alright.

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          January 1, 2013 at 12:09 am | #

          Something so wonderful it’ll make him believe in god?

          • Wonder Wig
            Wonder Wig
            January 1, 2013 at 12:10 am | #

            The G in G-spot stands for God.

          • Plasma Mongoose
            Plasma Mongoose
            January 1, 2013 at 12:12 am | #

            Dotty is THAT GOOD? No wonder Danny didn’t want to break up with her.

          • Kernanator
            Kernanator
            January 1, 2013 at 1:18 am | #

            …Disgruntled aside.

      • Doctor_Who
        Doctor_Who
        January 1, 2013 at 1:40 am | #

        Does it count if he screams God’s name?

        • Wizard
          Wizard
          January 1, 2013 at 2:57 pm | #

          According to at least one church bulletin board all over the interwebz, no.

  4. Wonder Wig
    Wonder Wig
    January 1, 2013 at 12:03 am | #

    Nobody help me. I’m gonna try to figure it out myself….

    • littlespeck
      littlespeck
      January 1, 2013 at 12:05 am | #

      no such thing as an athiest in a foxhole.

      • Wonder Wig
        Wonder Wig
        January 1, 2013 at 12:08 am | #

        But then, the speech writers part…

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          January 1, 2013 at 12:10 am | #

          Cos Dotty hopes to become President one day.

          • Kemp
            Kemp
            January 1, 2013 at 12:29 am | #

            Yes, but why does the skill of speech-writing help Dorothy or Joyce in this situation?

            • taekwondogirl
              taekwondogirl
              January 1, 2013 at 12:40 am | #

              The implication is that Dorothy’s joke is awful.

              • gangler
                gangler
                January 1, 2013 at 12:51 am | #

                It is not a joke that a speech writer would have given her to tell.

            • Reb
              Reb
              January 1, 2013 at 12:41 am | #

              Joyce is implying that Dorothy is lucky that she will have people to write her jokes, because her own sense of humor is cheesy/terrible. At least that’s what I took away from it.

      • Angel
        Angel
        January 1, 2013 at 12:23 am | #

        I still don’t get it.

      • Groove
        Groove
        January 1, 2013 at 8:21 am | #

        “no such thing as an athiest in a foxhole.”

        What do these words mean/where do they come from?

        • Groove
          Groove
          January 1, 2013 at 8:24 am | #

          Never mind, research got the better of myself.

        • DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
          DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
          January 1, 2013 at 6:11 pm | #

          It means put Dorothy in a war zone, death camp, zombie apocalypse, etc. that she has to endure, and face her own inevitable mortality that her principles won’t help one bit while she’s at it, and there’s a good chance her atheist principles will be replaced with “Save me, Jeebus!” or “God, Allah, Buddah, L. Ron Hubbard, I love you all!”

          Atheists are usually found in places very far from foxholes at that, or at least it seems that way.

          • Kelly
            Kelly
            January 1, 2013 at 10:54 pm | #

            That is the theory. It does not pan out in practice.
            http://militaryatheists.org/atheists-in-foxholes/

            • DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
              DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
              January 2, 2013 at 3:55 pm | #

              With a perfectly unbiased source, of course.

              But the proverb does reek of borderline reasoning, yes.

              I still think Dorothy will cave, on account of her being no Ernest Hemingway or Kurt Vonnegut. Her atheism strikes me more as glorified agnosticism due to fear making the wrong call, and also an extension of her persona as an intellectual.

  5. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    January 1, 2013 at 12:03 am | #

    I know there is a dick joke in that statement somewhere, I just not sure where it is exactly.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      January 1, 2013 at 12:11 am | #

      There was a dick joke in your mom last night.
      for a Nickel.

      • Luke
        Luke
        January 1, 2013 at 12:33 am | #

        Are you implying that your dick is a joke?

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          January 1, 2013 at 1:11 am | #

          Are you implying that I’m refering to myself?

          • Luke
            Luke
            January 1, 2013 at 1:14 am | #

            The only other reference that would make sense is Mike, and if that were the case, you’d’ve come down with a terrible case of the face-fisting.

            • ProjectXa3
              ProjectXa3
              January 1, 2013 at 3:35 am | #

              Would he contract fist-AIDS from it?

              • Luke
                Luke
                January 1, 2013 at 6:27 am | #

                And all the others. Fistiphilus and such.

                • Chronos
                  Chronos
                  January 1, 2013 at 9:38 am | #

                  One of the many types of FisTDs.

                • CWR
                  CWR
                  January 2, 2013 at 6:21 am | #

                  Alla the internets – just take ’em, already.

          • |Agent
            |Agent
            January 4, 2013 at 6:15 pm | #

            Touché

  6. The Sound Defense
    The Sound Defense
    January 1, 2013 at 12:06 am | #

    Awesomeface spotted in panel 4.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      January 1, 2013 at 12:13 am | #

      Tread quietly…it’s the very rare awesomeface. Do not make any loud noises or you may spook it. The wild awesome face tends to be a wide grinned matter of fact looking species. But sometimes it’s plumage takes the shape of a smug smile. This, is of course, the former.

  7. Kemp
    Kemp
    January 1, 2013 at 12:07 am | #

    The final panel escapes me entirely.

    • Wack'd
      Wack'd
      January 1, 2013 at 12:10 am | #

      Perhaps this will help.

      • Kemp
        Kemp
        January 1, 2013 at 12:38 am | #

        Cool, thanks, never heard that phrase before. But I’m afraid I still don’t get the presidential speechwriting bit. Like I said, the whole exchange was entirely lost on me.

        • Kernanator
          Kernanator
          January 1, 2013 at 1:13 am | #

          She’s saying that it’s not a joke a speechwriter would recommend. In other words, it’s a bad joke.

          • DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
            DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
            January 1, 2013 at 6:16 pm | #

            Not even here or there with the situation, either. She’ll need more than a writer, or she needs to consider a better career path.

  8. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    January 1, 2013 at 12:08 am | #

    Those speech writers didn’t hlep Bush much, unless you go along with the theory that Bush made all those speech mistakes on purpose to deflect some of the blame for his unpopular decisions during his terms.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      January 1, 2013 at 12:15 am | #

      Don’t blame the speech writers for the speaker’s incompetence.

      • Raoullefere
        Raoullefere
        January 1, 2013 at 1:38 am | #

        How about blaming them all?

  9. Wack'd
    Wack'd
    January 1, 2013 at 12:08 am | #

    Panel four Dorothy reminds me of Groucho Marx for some reason.

    Perhaps its the eyebrows.

    • JebJeb
      JebJeb
      January 1, 2013 at 1:08 am | #

      Same. The first thing to pop to mind.

  10. Clark
    Clark
    January 1, 2013 at 12:30 am | #

    Eh, not that funny. Keep trying though, Dorothy.

  11. Sporky
    Sporky
    January 1, 2013 at 12:37 am | #

    Look at Walky’s face in the last panel. He’s smiling. He totally digs it. They have the same silly sense of humor.

    Sigh. I actually really like the two of them together in DOA.

  12. antiwesley
    antiwesley
    January 1, 2013 at 12:58 am | #

    Dorothy could feel Joyce’s breath on the back of her neck, a warm tease that made her think of other things. “Can’t she even understand that Sal would kill me for even thinking about her in that way.” she thought as the breaths became shallower and more rapid. “Bad enough Sal already sneaks in and out to visit her, now this?” the inner monologue continued. “Joyce, I thought Sal wanted to take you for a ride…” Joyce’s eyes opened. “Oh yes, I had forgotten about that.” Joyce’s breathing became deeper again. “Where was it you wanted to take me?” she sweetly sang towards Sal, her puppy dog eyes looking up into the steel-eyed biker chick.

    • Luke
      Luke
      January 1, 2013 at 1:11 am | #

      Come now, there’s enough of that everywhere else, we don’t need it here too… Okay, maybe we do.

  13. Kernanator
    Kernanator
    January 1, 2013 at 1:17 am | #

    I think that dream was not “bad” as much as it was “fucked up”.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      January 1, 2013 at 1:29 am | #

      Fucked up and bad seem to be in the same general area.
      Rarely do you hear the phrase “fucked up” and there not be some negative implication to it.

      • Kernanator
        Kernanator
        January 1, 2013 at 10:52 am | #

        True. What I was trying to say was that her dream had transcended being merely “bad”, and had crossed over into the realm of being “fucked up”.

    • begbert2
      begbert2
      January 1, 2013 at 10:34 am | #

      I think any dream where I was having sex (sort of) with my squeeze and he suddenly turned into evil cut rape man on me could legitimately be categorized as a bad one.

      • Kernanator
        Kernanator
        January 1, 2013 at 10:54 am | #

        Yeah, clearly I worded my comment badly. The point I was trying to get across was that her dream had gone beyond being merely bad, and was now officially fucked up.

    • Prodigal
      Prodigal
      January 1, 2013 at 12:14 pm | #

      True, but saying “bad dream” won’t necessarily cause people to ak what happened in the dream the way “fucked up dream” will.

      • Kernanator
        Kernanator
        January 2, 2013 at 12:35 am | #

        I dunno, I’ve had people ask me regardless.

  14. Sir Robin
    Sir Robin
    January 1, 2013 at 1:27 am | #

    Damn, Ethan is tall

    • averystrangeplace
      averystrangeplace
      January 1, 2013 at 2:07 am | #

      Joyce is afraid to get near Ethan. After all, he may be a lustwolf in sheep’s clothing.
      BUH DUM TSH.

  15. Uniqueantique
    Uniqueantique
    January 1, 2013 at 2:08 am | #

    humm? So Joyce became frightened of Ethan for a moment because she flashed on her dream of the attempted rape she underwent at the party. Got that. Ethan is sorry for scaring her, got that. Now it get wierd. Dororthy knows about Joyces scare I think..so why would she say such a stupid thing? That while “there are no Athiests in foxholes” I guess Dorothy is saying that er….Ethan is a foxhole and a play on words of the overly religious Joyce being an athiest? haha yeah right

    • Norah
      Norah
      January 1, 2013 at 2:44 am | #

      No, Dorothy is the foxhole–Joyce is hiding behind her as someone would hide in a foxhole during war. Dorothy is also an atheist.

      • Jackson
        Jackson
        January 1, 2013 at 11:15 am | #

        I have got to start paying more attention to the staging.

  16. Beachfox
    Beachfox
    January 1, 2013 at 3:20 am | #

    Wait, it’s still the day after the WTF?! Dream?

    G.damn, this comic’s pacing….

  17. Buckybone
    Buckybone
    January 1, 2013 at 3:34 am | #

    Dorothy…

    THAT JOKE IS BAD, AND YOU SHOULD FEEL BAD!

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      January 1, 2013 at 4:14 am | #

      That Meme is old and you should feel old!

      • Lieutenant Dan
        Lieutenant Dan
        January 1, 2013 at 7:12 pm | #

        This place is a butt and you are also a butt!

  18. Dr.Z
    Dr.Z
    January 1, 2013 at 4:15 am | #

    I’m missing the context here, huh?

    Foxhole?

    • Marianne
      Marianne
      January 1, 2013 at 4:32 am | #

      A commonly held belief amongst some religious people is that there are “no atheists in foxholes”, i.e., when we’re in a scary dangerous situation (like war) we all suddenly become religious and pray to be kept safe. This is of course complete nonsense, but it’s where the phrase comes from.

      • Leo
        Leo
        January 1, 2013 at 6:33 am | #

        There is some truth to that argument, but I think it actually works against them. In their least rational and most emotionally traumatised state of mind one might do something equally stupid and irrational, such as attempt to bargain with a non existent higher power. That is basically what the argument is saying. Now, to me, that doesn’t say much for people who do it in a safe familiar situation where they don’t have the excuse to behave so irrationally.

        • begbert2
          begbert2
          January 1, 2013 at 10:30 am | #

          I think the more general sense of the claim is that all atheists already believe in God, and are just lying about it or perhaps in extreme twisted denial during peacetime. Facing the horrors of war is supposed to have scared us into admitting what we already knew.

          • jaimehlers
            jaimehlers
            January 1, 2013 at 10:56 am | #

            It’s basically just sophistry. Almost as bad as Pascal’s Wager (one is better off acting as if they believe in God even if they don’t because the ‘stakes’ are so high). But anyway, the “atheist in a foxhole” saying is just a common misconception amongst religious believers, so they can continue to believe that their beliefs are universal.

            It reminds me of someone who tried to use a similar kind of sophistry to claim that science was “faith-based”. His reasoning, such as it was, was that science was forced to make certain assumptions, and then presuming that one had to have ‘faith’ in those assumptions. Ergo, science is faith-based, and atheists (who ‘believe’ in science) were faith-based believers.

            • Yet Another Laura H.
              Yet Another Laura H.
              January 1, 2013 at 11:05 pm | #

              Actually, Pascal’s Wager is, “If you think Christianity is a good and healthy way to live, you have a lot to gain from living it if it’s the real deal, so why not be a Christian anyhow?” It actually drives “true” Christians lolnutz, because if you’re not “the Elect,” or you are in it because there is something to be gained aside from acknowledgement of the love of God and obedience to His divine plan, you’re not a “real” Christian. (But setting fire to homosexuals and venerating wealth above people, that’s totally cool.)

              I kind of think that the “no atheists in foxholes” is just as much an insult to religious people as it is to atheists, as it does tend to suggest that religion is a fear-based adrenaline reaction, roughly as noble as pooping one’s pants.

              My proposal: I won’t hold the idiocy of the noisy/proselytizing Christians against the usually-pretty-okay Christians on the street; I won’t hold the smug-about-it rudeness of the sexist Dawkinsites against the usually-pretty-cool atheists; and I hope you will judge me based upon my own stupidities without tarring all pagans with the same brush (or believing anything you hear about us on television unless they’re saying that Charmed is an emetic).

        • Dr.Z
          Dr.Z
          January 2, 2013 at 5:23 am | #

          Are you trolling at the end, there?

      • Dr.Z
        Dr.Z
        January 2, 2013 at 5:22 am | #

        Ah. Thank you enlightening me.

  19. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    January 1, 2013 at 7:07 am | #

    A more logical saying should be “There are no atheists during bouts of great sex”.

    • All-Purpose Guru
      All-Purpose Guru
      January 1, 2013 at 8:36 am | #

      “I had an atheist last night. After five minutes she was screaming “Oh, my nonexistent supreme being!” After ten more minutes, she was screaming “There *is* a god!” –The Unknown Comic, 1984

    • mrelegos
      mrelegos
      January 1, 2013 at 8:49 am | #

      That’s only because “Oh My Universe of Wonder” doesn’t flow as well.

    • Prodigal
      Prodigal
      January 1, 2013 at 12:16 pm | #

      Either way a foxhole may be involved.

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        January 1, 2013 at 5:28 pm | #

        Assuming foxhole is a euphemism of cause. 😉

        • CWR
          CWR
          January 2, 2013 at 6:31 am | #

          What accent is that, PM?

  20. HLY
    HLY
    January 1, 2013 at 8:55 am | #

    y’know, over at shortpacked it’s sometimes easy to forget how tall Ethan is…

    • begbert2
      begbert2
      January 1, 2013 at 10:25 am | #

      He’s not all that tall; everyone else here is just really quite short.

  21. begbert2
    begbert2
    January 1, 2013 at 10:31 am | #

    You’re not the foxhole, Dorothy. You’re the whole fox. Mrrar!

    • Kernanator
      Kernanator
      January 1, 2013 at 10:48 am | #

      Foxy, foxy~

  22. Charles RB
    Charles RB
    January 1, 2013 at 2:36 pm | #

    DOROTHY WINS

  23. Raen
    Raen
    January 1, 2013 at 3:08 pm | #

    Delivery, Joyce. The best speechwriter on Earth can’t help with delivery.

    …wait a minute… Dorothy knows what happened at the party… gods, what the hell is WRONG with this girl?!

    • Aegon01
      Aegon01
      January 1, 2013 at 4:01 pm | #

      Yeah, but she doesn’t know what Joyce was dreaming about. It’s probably in response to Joyce’s reaction to PDA.

      • begbert2
        begbert2
        January 1, 2013 at 6:54 pm | #

        Yeah, she probably just thought that Joyce had a sex dream – and that’s probably the part of the dream Joyce is thinking about too. Her reaction to Ethan in yesterday’s strip did not look like ‘oh god he’s going to rape me’.

    • DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
      DudeMyDadOwnsADealership
      January 2, 2013 at 4:08 pm | #

      That she’s stupid?

    • |Agent
      |Agent
      January 4, 2013 at 6:19 pm | #

      Well, like Joyce was saying…Dorothy doesn’t always say the right things.

  24. Ry
    Ry
    January 1, 2013 at 7:50 pm | #

    <3 Dorothy

  25. Ziaheart
    Ziaheart
    January 1, 2013 at 8:58 pm | #

    Let’s be war buddies; Waist deep in big muddies, side by side. I’ll be your atheist of a fox hole any time.

  26. nothri
    nothri
    June 4, 2013 at 3:09 am | #

    I….don’t get it.

    • Narf
      Narf
      June 26, 2013 at 12:01 am | #

      Google “No atheists in the foxhole,” it may help you out.

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