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by David M Willis on February 16, 2015 at 12:01 am
  • 02 - Three's a Crowd
└ Tags: ethan, joyce, ryan

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  1. TheTJ
    TheTJ
    February 16, 2015 at 12:01 am | #

    Ethan is good people.

    • saltchocolate
      saltchocolate
      February 16, 2015 at 12:03 am | #

      Ethan LOVE.

    • airyu
      airyu
      February 16, 2015 at 12:03 am | #

      He really really is.

    • TheTJ
      TheTJ
      February 16, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

      Hrm… such a nice sentiment is at odds with the Mike Gravatar.

      Uhm… Ethan’s mom was good people, for a nickel.

      (No that doesn’t work, Ethan’s mom is the worst)

      • airyu
        airyu
        February 16, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

        Maybe she’d be better if someone gave her that nickel?
        This is really weird coming out of a Joyce gravatar

        • Solenoid
          Solenoid
          February 16, 2015 at 12:10 am | #

          Give her a nickel and tell her to get fucked, maybe?

          • TheTJ
            TheTJ
            February 16, 2015 at 12:12 am | #

            I’m pretty sure that was the original meaning behind the Nickel line in the first place.

            We’ve come full circle on this.

            • Solenoid
              Solenoid
              February 16, 2015 at 12:45 am | #

              I really do enjoy it when we complete the circle.

              • John
                John
                February 16, 2015 at 12:58 am | #

                You would, it how you earn your Nickels.

                • MrPotamus
                  MrPotamus
                  February 16, 2015 at 1:25 am | #

                  Actually this would be full circle.

                • Porthos9438
                  Porthos9438
                  February 16, 2015 at 3:52 am | #

                  Had Ethan’s Mom for a nickle once. Asked for change afterwards.

                  (How’s that?)

                • Yet_One_More_Idiot
                  Yet_One_More_Idiot
                  February 16, 2015 at 6:02 am | #

                  It doesn’t work in countries that don’t have nickels though…

                  Does my face fit with callous commentry? 😛

                  Also, before going to find Becky, I think Joyce needs a hug. Maybe not from Ethan right now, but definitely from somebody. :3

        • Gigafreak
          Gigafreak
          February 16, 2015 at 12:11 am | #

          One day she was just five cents short of being able to order mushrooms on her pizza and it made her super grumpy forever

        • TheGrammarLegionary
          TheGrammarLegionary
          September 11, 2015 at 12:59 am | #

          This thread is really weird now that all the Gravatars have changed.

      • neeks
        neeks
        February 16, 2015 at 1:01 am | #

        Nah, just looks like you’re complaining about Ethan being good people.

        • Formedras
          Formedras
          February 16, 2015 at 1:08 am | #

          Kya!! Miki-chan profile pic! Sorry. This comment was just for that.

        • Sailor_Arashi
          Sailor_Arashi
          February 16, 2015 at 6:58 am | #

          MIKIIIII!!!!

        • Lord Nullset
          Lord Nullset
          February 16, 2015 at 12:23 pm | #

          Sorry for being a noob, but from where does your avatar originate? I’m always looking for new manga to read, and it looks like my type.

          • Coru
            Coru
            February 16, 2015 at 6:56 pm | #

            Marmalade Boy. Adorable, but you’ve gotta be able to do some relationship trigonometry.

            I think love quadrangle is the simplest they go.

            • neeks
              neeks
              February 18, 2015 at 12:02 am | #

              I honestly don’t even remember, it might have been marmalade boy…I made the avatar like fifteen years ago while binging on a shojo scanslation site whose name I don’t recall either.

              • Sailor_Arashi
                Sailor_Arashi
                March 4, 2015 at 10:18 pm | #

                Oh, it’s absolutely Marmalade Boy. I’ve got the manga sitting on a shelf directly above my head here.

    • Gigafreak
      Gigafreak
      February 16, 2015 at 12:09 am | #

      Just got dumped. Still going to support the one who just dumped you, and without stopping to shed a single tear in between. Ethan is taking it well!

      • Solenoid
        Solenoid
        February 16, 2015 at 12:11 am | #

        Maybe it hasn’t sunk in. Maybe it has. Either way, he’s doing a good job of being there for Joyce.

        • Gigafreak
          Gigafreak
          February 16, 2015 at 12:13 am | #

          Maybe it’s a positive side effect of having no backbone. Maybe it’s because he wasn’t all that invested in the relationship anymore lately. Even if the reason is potentially bad, the result is good!

          • Gigafreak
            Gigafreak
            February 16, 2015 at 12:14 am | #

            Clarification: the reason can also be good or neutral. The result is still good no matter what the reason is, is what I meant.

          • insomniac
            insomniac
            February 16, 2015 at 12:48 am | #

            Maybe it’s because he knows damn well that it was a relationship built entirely on self-deception and was never going to be anything more.

            • TheTJ
              TheTJ
              February 16, 2015 at 12:50 am | #

              Actually, the past few comics show him being fairly upset by this.

              That just makes it that much more impressive that he does what he does.

              • neeks
                neeks
                February 16, 2015 at 1:03 am | #

                Ethan is still close friends with ALL his exgirlfriends!

              • Annie
                Annie
                February 16, 2015 at 1:27 am | #

                I was wondering if maybe he just wasn’t sure how to be friends with a girl that’s not his girlfriend anymore, but this comic kinda blows that theory out of the water.

                His reaction these last few comics really surprised me, though. I didn’t think he was all that invested in his relationship with Joyce. But heaven knows I’ve had relationships that I knew weren’t going anywhere but I was still sad and upset when they ended.

                • Rycan
                  Rycan
                  February 16, 2015 at 2:07 am | #

                  Last time, it was Amber who needed the break, not Ethan. He wanted his best friend back.

                • Freemage
                  Freemage
                  February 16, 2015 at 11:29 am | #

                  Just remember, for Ethan, this relationship was really about having a route to ‘normalcy’. He wouldn’t be looked down on, he’d have a companion to be with, and oh, yes, his parents might stop ripping on him. So he had acclimatized to being in a relationship that had no sexual appeal, and pretty little romantic attraction, simply because it was convenient.

                  So yes, he was upset–but not in the grieving way you get for a truly lost love. Instead, it’s more akin to discovering that no, you really aren’t cut out for your major and you’re going to have to toss aside the map of your life you’ve been making. Which, ironically, makes it easier for him to sympathize with Joyce, who really is going through much the same thing.

        • That Damn Rat
          That Damn Rat
          February 16, 2015 at 1:13 am | #

          Or Maybe, he was never really in love with or attracted to her at all. No wait, that’s exactly what it was.

          • Annie
            Annie
            February 16, 2015 at 1:31 am | #

            But how upset he looks in reaction to her in the first panel and in the last couple of comics makes it obvious he really cares about her. Plenty of people date without being in love and I know I’ve dated a couple guys I wasn’t attracted to.

          • Rycan
            Rycan
            February 16, 2015 at 2:09 am | #

            Correct on the latter part, definitely. But that doesn’t preclude the possibility of love developing in some form. But, as Joyce previously pointed out, Ethan most likely loves her as a friend or little sister.

        • dreadedseamonster
          dreadedseamonster
          February 16, 2015 at 10:32 am | #

          I feel like, being a gay man, he wasn’t really invested in the relationship in a romantic way anyway.

      • Christopher B. Wright
        Christopher B. Wright
        February 16, 2015 at 12:36 am | #

        This is going to sound a lot more rude than I intend it to be, but getting dumped by your beard probably isn’t as traumatic as getting dumped by someone you were actually emotionally invested in.

        If anything, what she did cleared the way to them having an actual friendship, and Ethan is more than savvy enough to recognize that. I never got the feeling his thing with Joyce was an attempt to convince himself he was straight… it was more a “this allows me to put off having to deal with a number of things I really don’t want to deal with right now” thing. So on the one hand, he doesn’t have that buffer any more, but on the other hand, Joyce just genuinely treated him like a person right there.

        • brionl
          brionl
          February 16, 2015 at 6:52 pm | #

          Right, he’s going to be a real friend, not a make-believe boyfriend. Much better for both parties.

      • Z
        Z
        February 16, 2015 at 7:25 am | #

        That was the most crap-tastic dumping ever. Anyways, if they actually talk about it, Joyce will realize that Ethan’s desire to not be gay has NOTHING to do with religion (or, very little, or it’s complicated), and is his choice. I think they both, deep down, know this is a buffer relationship. Joyce may not have at first, but now it’s obvious. They’re both together because neither are ready for a “real” (sexual) relationship, so they can both be together and support each other until they are ready.

        Joyce is feeling guilty about a lot of things, mostly what Becky is going through and feeling like she’s doing the same to Ethan. the two situations aren’t comparable and, clearly, Joyce still needs this relationship- and so does Ethan.

    • Pantheon the Mantheon
      Pantheon the Mantheon
      February 16, 2015 at 1:05 am | #

      Do… do you realize what you’ve done?…. You commented before Jen Aside…. Yer a wizard… a wizard who is Jen’s reincarnation

      • Solenoid
        Solenoid
        February 16, 2015 at 1:09 am | #

        Jen Aside actually hasn’t commented yet. I suspect a power outage.

    • Rosie
      Rosie
      February 16, 2015 at 2:45 pm | #

      He’s a mensch.

    • desai
      desai
      March 1, 2015 at 11:28 am | #

      Much like Murphy.

  2. Aubri
    Aubri
    February 16, 2015 at 12:01 am | #

    Us too.

  3. TrueVCU
    TrueVCU
    February 16, 2015 at 12:01 am | #

    Ethan gonna embrace who he is OVER HIS DEAD BODY

    • Tayo
      Tayo
      February 16, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

      shhhhh youll ruined the inevitable surprise

      • Historyman68
        Historyman68
        February 16, 2015 at 12:27 am | #

        I love the combination of future and past tense. Expert internet comment skills!

        (Not sarcastic. I legit enjoyed that!)

    • SUGauthor
      SUGauthor
      February 16, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

      Actually I’m pretty sure it’ll be over Danny’s body.

      • TrueVCU
        TrueVCU
        February 16, 2015 at 12:09 am | #

        And Joe’s when he walks in, shocked but oddly curious…

        • Solenoid
          Solenoid
          February 16, 2015 at 12:12 am | #

          But he walks out because he knows better than to ruin someone’s fun. He’ll come back a few hours later for high-fiving, though.

          • Gigafreak
            Gigafreak
            February 16, 2015 at 12:15 am | #

            He’ll be just a little hesitant to put the sock on the door this time though. JOURNALISM MAKES LIARS OF JOE’S SOCKS.

            • Disloyal Subject
              Disloyal Subject
              February 16, 2015 at 1:35 am | #

              Aand there’s my favorite comment this week

    • The Gorram Batguy
      The Gorram Batguy
      February 16, 2015 at 3:19 am | #

      “Over his dead body”.
      I can see it now. A freak accident at the bio-lab results in a reverse-polarity clone of Ethan being produced. A heterosexual womanizer who treats people like dirt, and who hates Transformers. Let’s call him anti-Ethan. Ethan and anti-Ethan meet, and naturally they fight to the death. Victorious, Ethan stands over the corpse of his clone (which is genetically identical to him) and embraces the truths of his being which his doppelganger had brought into such sharp focus.
      The fight is so graphic and full of “tension” that is goes straight to slipshine.

      • Usayasha
        Usayasha
        February 16, 2015 at 4:08 am | #

        Funny enough, Joe is a bit of an anti-Ethan. They’re both tall Jewish men with black hair and broad shoulders that like Transformers.

        But Ethan considers his nerdiness to be his identifying trait, cares about and talks with others about their problems, makes poor ethical decisions, and is a gay guy who can’t get a date.

        Meanwhile, Joe is embarrassed (last I recall) about liking Transformers, hates emotional hand-holding, has a good code of ethics that he stands by, and is a heterosexual guy who gets with all the wimens.

        They’re like opposite sides of the same coin. Ethan and Anti-Ethan. Joe and -Anti-Joe. If they fused together, they would makes the ultimate Nice Jewish Boy.
        …or an evil and emotionally stunted opposite.

        • NotPiffany
          NotPiffany
          February 16, 2015 at 7:48 am | #

          Joe’s Jewish?

          • Kodra
            Kodra
            February 16, 2015 at 8:17 am | #

            Yep. Joyce made a comment about being attracted to God’s chosen people after going on a date with Joe and then dating Ethan.

          • No Name
            No Name
            February 16, 2015 at 8:48 am | #

            His last name is “Rosenthal”. That’s even more stereo-typically Jewish than “Siegal”

        • Rycan
          Rycan
          February 16, 2015 at 10:29 am | #

          Joe’s Transformers have only appeared in the Walkyverse, as far as I know. I don’t think he has them in this universe.

        • Gamaran Sepudomyn
          Gamaran Sepudomyn
          February 16, 2015 at 11:08 am | #

          They wouldn’t fuse. They would release massive amounts of radiation. Orgone radiation, to be exact (yay for obscure references to crackpots!).

  4. otusasio451
    otusasio451
    February 16, 2015 at 12:01 am | #

    Ethan…you’ve made the top 5 of my favorite characters list.

  5. Dusk Tornado
    Dusk Tornado
    February 16, 2015 at 12:01 am | #

    Ethan is always so cool

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      February 16, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

      He collects Transformers, of course he’s cool!

      • Screwball
        Screwball
        February 16, 2015 at 5:45 pm | #

        Wait, People collect us? Do I have to watch out for trophy hunters? Is this some sort of big game hunting thing? Cause I’m not happy with it being a big game hunting thing. I don’t want my head on some plaque or anything like that. Starting to not like Ethan as much, bit worried about Humans, realizing I’m stuck on this planet…

        Wait, if collecting Transformers makes you cool, then maybe BEING a transformer makes me cool…

        • No Name
          No Name
          February 16, 2015 at 7:50 pm | #

          No, Screwball, humans don’t collect you. We collect little plastic models of people like you. I mean, there might be a few crazies who would put your head on a plaque given the chance, but they’d be prosecuted for murder. At least as long as long your human, friend, is able to make a case for your personhood.

          Also, yes, being a Transformer makes you cool.

          • Screwball
            Screwball
            February 16, 2015 at 8:21 pm | #

            Little plastic models of people like me? *Calms down* phew, that’s a relief. Wait, models? Interesting…

            *Starts wandering net…*

  6. caramelundqueer
    caramelundqueer
    February 16, 2015 at 12:01 am | #

    Awww. He’s her friend and that’s just what she needs.

  7. Saine
    Saine
    February 16, 2015 at 12:01 am | #

    Aw.

  8. alicemacher
    alicemacher
    February 16, 2015 at 12:02 am | #

    And people were wondering whether Joyce and Ethan could stay friends.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      February 16, 2015 at 5:30 pm | #

      Yup! Way to show me wrong, Ethan. More power to you.

  9. AnvilPro
    AnvilPro
    February 16, 2015 at 12:02 am | #

    So can we get a week of Joyce and Ethan awkwardly walking and making small talk?

    • Scoops
      Scoops
      February 16, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

      Joyce and Ethan Perform Awkward Small Talk

      • Twilightomens
        Twilightomens
        February 16, 2015 at 12:18 am | #

        Damn, I might actually need to get that Slipshine subscription D:

  10. Jupiterror
    Jupiterror
    February 16, 2015 at 12:02 am | #

    the power of friendship prevails

    • Solenoid
      Solenoid
      February 16, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

      May it remain so!

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        February 16, 2015 at 12:56 am | #

        This say we all!

    • Leishycat
      Leishycat
      February 16, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

      Friendship is magic. <3

      • Cynthia
        Cynthia
        February 16, 2015 at 2:29 am | #

        I know you! You…. ohhhh.. now you’ve got it coming! >:O

  11. SUGauthor
    SUGauthor
    February 16, 2015 at 12:02 am | #

    You rule Ethan.

  12. Romanticide
    Romanticide
    February 16, 2015 at 12:02 am | #

    Ryan is passing through!!!! kill him first!!!

    • Gigafreak
      Gigafreak
      February 16, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

      “They looked like MONSTERS to you?”

      • Scott John Harrison
        Scott John Harrison
        February 16, 2015 at 10:16 am | #

        I didn’t realise that all the extras were Ryan until this comic.

    • Barf Ninjason
      Barf Ninjason
      February 16, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

      Why does the Joyce not simply eat his heart?!?

      • Tacos
        Tacos
        February 16, 2015 at 12:16 am | #

        He probably doesn’t have one to begin with.

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      ninja_jesus
      February 16, 2015 at 12:28 am | #

      Don’t kill Ryan, he’s on a murder break!

  13. Solenoid
    Solenoid
    February 16, 2015 at 12:03 am | #

    At this point, I’m hoping the next time I see Ryan in this strip, it’s on the receiving end of Amazi-styled justice.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      February 16, 2015 at 12:06 am | #

      Or at an open-casket funeral of some kind.

      • Solenoid
        Solenoid
        February 16, 2015 at 12:08 am | #

        I would have gone with that, but it’s been done before. Unless that’s why you’re suggesting it, in which case, well played.

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          Crazy Dina
          February 16, 2015 at 12:10 am | #

          DAMN YOU SOLENOID! You made me remember Shortpacked! at a sad time. 🙁

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        a4lbi
        February 16, 2015 at 12:10 am | #

        Why not bo–

        Wait, better not finish that sentence.

        • Solenoid
          Solenoid
          February 16, 2015 at 12:16 am | #

          -th.

          I’m not necessarily a good person at all times. Now I’m imagining Amazi-girl causing harm to the corpse. Yeah, a bit like beating a dead horse, except it’s a human body instead.

          • Safgaftsa
            Safgaftsa
            February 16, 2015 at 12:25 am | #

            Allegedly.

            • Solenoid
              Solenoid
              February 16, 2015 at 12:48 am | #

              Those who deny the humanity of those who commit horrendous actions deny their own capacity to do horrible things. Not being prepared to censor their darker impulses, such people are actually more likely to do ill.

              So yeah, human. Like the rest of us, and like all those who’ve done horrible things all through history.

              • Crazy Dina
                Crazy Dina
                February 16, 2015 at 1:06 am | #

                No. Amazi-stool is allegedly a stool, and Screwball is allegedly a transformer. It’s not too much of a stretch to say that Ryan is a Bongo. (I mean the dear-like creature. The drums are too peaceful of a race to do something like that, even if we do hit them repeatedly.

                • elielh
                  elielh
                  February 16, 2015 at 1:33 am | #

                  No Ryan is a Dingo (likewise is Tom Wheeler).

                • Rycan
                  Rycan
                  February 16, 2015 at 1:59 am | #

                  One day, a battered pair of bongo drums will rise up. The revolution will ignite.
                  THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY

                • Crazy Dina
                  Crazy Dina
                  February 16, 2015 at 5:10 pm | #

                  Maybe Ryan is Jeff the Diseased Lung in a Cowboy Hat, but in disguise as a human.

                • Screwball
                  Screwball
                  February 16, 2015 at 6:03 pm | #

                  Not I got the processor image of someone tearing off his “face” to reveal a horned antelope-like head, only for someone to jump on his back, sit on his shoulders & hit his head saying “What he is a bongo, right? Where’s the other drum?”

                  And Elielh, Daniel says don’t insult Dingoes, he’s probably closer to a sewer rat…

                • Crazy Dina
                  Crazy Dina
                  February 16, 2015 at 6:21 pm | #

                  Okay, you KNOW something is funny when you can keep a straight face through Last Week Tonight clips, yet can’t stifle a laugh at a COMMENT.

                • Screwball
                  Screwball
                  February 16, 2015 at 8:21 pm | #

                  Happy to help 😛

          • Screwball
            Screwball
            February 16, 2015 at 5:58 pm | #

            a4lbi; Why not bo–

            Solenoid; -th.

            I’m not necessarily a good person at all times. Now I’m imagining Amazi-girl causing harm to the corpse. Yeah, a bit like beating a dead horse, except it’s a human body instead.
            .
            Or perhaps the REAL Ryan sees Joyce alone, tries to finish the job & Amazigirl puts the hurt on him so bad, the still healing ribs break again causing fatal damage. After much explaining no charges as it was defensive, they open the casket at the funeral to confirm once & for all he’s gone, Joyce begins recovering faster but Amazigirl potentially goes down hill…

            What? I gotta learn about you lot, so I poke the net a lot, find these kinda things…

      • Carriethedragon
        Carriethedragon
        February 16, 2015 at 12:13 am | #

        Denied her chance to confront him, Joyce shows up to gain what little closure she can by telling off while he lies in the casket and talk shit about him to the other attendees. Becky tags along to flip off the corpse.

        • Gigafreak
          Gigafreak
          February 16, 2015 at 12:16 am | #

          “Later, asshole. I kissed your target.”

        • Carriethedragon
          Carriethedragon
          February 16, 2015 at 12:20 am | #

          I have regrets about the grammar in this comment.

          • Disloyal Subject
            Disloyal Subject
            February 16, 2015 at 1:39 am | #

            That’s all I ask.

  14. Ter
    Ter
    February 16, 2015 at 12:03 am | #

    What is the point of having a favorite character poll if Meredith isn’t in the story yet? I ask you.

  15. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    February 16, 2015 at 12:03 am | #

    This is how The Living Dead started wasn’t it?

  16. Tayo
    Tayo
    February 16, 2015 at 12:03 am | #

    Petition for the backstory on ryan’s scar

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      February 16, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

      He got it when Joyce glassed him during THAT party.

    • airyu
      airyu
      February 16, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

      It’s because Joyce glassed him after he attacked her

    • Tom Speelman
      Tom Speelman
      February 16, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

      That was established in strip. It’s IN the storyline he appears in.

    • Riku
      Riku
      February 16, 2015 at 12:09 am | #

      That would be this guy (I don’t know how to link the words “this guy” to the url so if somebody can explain I’d be totes grateful)

      http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/smash/

      • Gigafreak
        Gigafreak
        February 16, 2015 at 12:39 am | #

        What you’re looking for are the “a href” html tags. Google should provide some helpful tutorials! I don’t know how to type the brackets in without the site parsing the html instead, so I can’t give a direct demonstration.

        • Opus the Poet
          Opus the Poet
          February 16, 2015 at 1:00 am | #

          Use the &lt and &gt html to form the angle brackets instead of typing them out.

        • Crazy Dina
          Crazy Dina
          February 16, 2015 at 1:08 am | #

          &lt; and &gt; – the semicolons are important. And if you need to type that out, & is &amp; .

          • Gigafreak
            Gigafreak
            February 16, 2015 at 3:34 pm | #

            I am grateful for this and regret to inform you both that I will likely forget those keywords by the end of the week.

            • Crazy Dina
              Crazy Dina
              February 16, 2015 at 4:18 pm | #

              Bookmark this for now then: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_encodings_in_HTML#XML_character_references

              I’m sure there are better lists somewhere on the web, but I’m not going to come up with any until I stop calling them and-amp codes. (for &)

      • No Name
        No Name
        February 16, 2015 at 5:40 am | #

        A demonstration:
        <a href=”link” title=”title text”>Click me!</a href>
        gives you
        Click me!

        There have been cases (including myself) where people have put what they want to click in the title attribute. DON’T DO THAT!

      • Screwball
        Screwball
        February 16, 2015 at 6:09 pm | #

        (I don’t know how to link the words “this guy” to the url so if somebody can explain I’d be totes grateful).

        I tend to use This website for my links, including this 1 :P, and this site for the italics for when quoting & stuff. I just highlight what I want & drag it into the typing box. Simples *meercat squeak*

  17. TrueVCU
    TrueVCU
    February 16, 2015 at 12:03 am | #

    So… who’s bleeding in the foreground in panel 3?

    • Solenoid
      Solenoid
      February 16, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

      Another Mind!Ryan.

    • dailybrad
      dailybrad
      February 16, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

      One of the Ryans Joyce sees.

    • TrueVCU
      TrueVCU
      February 16, 2015 at 12:08 am | #

      Wait the Ghost of Rapists Past is a thing?

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        February 16, 2015 at 12:13 am | #

        So you think Joyce will meet the Ghost Rapists of the Present and Future?? YIKES!

        • Gigafreak
          Gigafreak
          February 16, 2015 at 12:45 am | #

          Ghost of Rapists Future?

          Is it necrophilia if it’s a ghost of someone who hasn’t actually died yet?

        • Wizard
          Wizard
          February 16, 2015 at 12:47 am | #

          So she can discover the True Meaning of Rape? Somehow I’m thinking not.

          • Disloyal Subject
            Disloyal Subject
            February 16, 2015 at 1:42 am | #

            This IS the internet, there are almost certainly stories about that somewhere.
            …there probably actually are. Excuse me, I need comfort food.

            • Screwball
              Screwball
              February 16, 2015 at 6:37 pm | #

              Yeah, I’ve stumbled onto that kinda thing. In surprising locations too. Daniel the Human tells me it’s far from how I’m supposed to behave, so I stay away from it. There are indeed some…weird people out there…

              • Crazy Dina
                Crazy Dina
                February 16, 2015 at 10:55 pm | #

                … appropriate new gravitar. (Future readers, it’s shocked Joyce [think right after the “Hail Satan” event] saying “Braaaiiinss…”)

  18. Wonder Wig
    Wonder Wig
    February 16, 2015 at 12:03 am | #

    I wonder if people who try to use Ryan as a gravitar are instantly eradicated.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      February 16, 2015 at 12:14 am | #

      I would hope Ryan will be removed from the random grav list.

      • Rycan
        Rycan
        February 16, 2015 at 12:39 am | #

        I think there are a limited number of random gravs. One each of Joyce, Joe, Jacob, Danny, Mike, Walky, Roz, Dina, Amber, Dorothy, Billie, Ruth, Sarah, and whoever else I’m forgetting.

        Fortunately, we are still allowed to used the name Ryan (or an altered version of it, in my case).

        • Solenoid
          Solenoid
          February 16, 2015 at 12:50 am | #

          You forgot Jason, but he was the only one you forgot. That’s a fairly complete list.

          • neeks
            neeks
            February 16, 2015 at 1:07 am | #

            Well, Jason is pretty forgettable.

            • poofdepoof
              poofdepoof
              February 16, 2015 at 1:44 am | #

              Thanks?

          • Rycan
            Rycan
            February 16, 2015 at 1:53 am | #

            Funny story – I nearly forgot Sarah.

          • SDGlyph
            SDGlyph
            February 16, 2015 at 3:45 am | #

            And Mary.

      • No Name
        No Name
        February 16, 2015 at 5:49 am | #

        I’m pretty sure the random Gravs are (currently) taken from a big “candid class picture” residing on Willis’s tumblr. Ryan is not in that picture. (And neither is Amazi-Girl.)

        • Gigafreak
          Gigafreak
          February 16, 2015 at 9:13 am | #

          Nah, most of them are cropped from individual comics. Sometimes you can spot the source images while re-reading the archives.

          • Gigafreak
            Gigafreak
            February 16, 2015 at 10:25 am | #

            It occurs to me that I may possibly be mistaken and some specific people just have cropped individual comics for their own gravatars! Any that aren’t from comics are probably from the cast pages or from the “clothing model” illustrations that David Willis creates for his own reference and often posts to his tumblr, also used for the cast pages.

            • Rycan
              Rycan
              February 16, 2015 at 11:48 am | #

              Well, I cropped mine straight from a comic (hence why it has a transparent background). But I think it’s fair to say that if multiple people share the same Gravatar, then it’s one of the randomly assigned defaults.

          • No Name
            No Name
            February 16, 2015 at 2:03 pm | #

            Found it!
            Also, I lied. Amazi-Girl is in the picture, not Amber. Not sure where the Amber Grav comes from then.

            • Gigafreak
              Gigafreak
              February 16, 2015 at 3:45 pm | #

              http://itswalky.tumblr.com/tagged/dumbing+of+age/
              Most of David Willis’ character/clothing model reference illustrations are under the Dumbing of Age tag on Tumblr, and the banners usually consist of said model illustrations spliced together into one image.

              • No Name
                No Name
                February 16, 2015 at 5:26 pm | #

                That explains it. Thank you Gigafreak.

                • Screwball
                  Screwball
                  February 16, 2015 at 6:56 pm | #

                  Me, I just have fun taking comics & turning faces into Avatars. I like how this 1 went together… 😛

    • Tandel
      Tandel
      February 16, 2015 at 1:06 am | #

      I’m not even sure you could modify it in a way that makes it acceptable. No quote that disparages him would be of significant magnitude to rob him of his dark and monstrous power.

      • No Name
        No Name
        February 16, 2015 at 5:45 am | #

        Isn’t there a guy with a Jokerized Blaine? He’s still around. I think.

        • Gigafreak
          Gigafreak
          February 16, 2015 at 9:18 am | #

          His posts are well-written and insightful and so on, but I have difficulty bringing myself to actually read the things with that horrifying face staring back at me.

          • StClair
            StClair
            February 16, 2015 at 4:04 pm | #

            Same.

    • Eric
      Eric
      February 16, 2015 at 5:20 pm | #

      You take the random gravatar you get, and you don’t throw a fit.

      • No Name
        No Name
        February 16, 2015 at 7:31 pm | #

        But if you do decide to through a fit, may I point you to the “Get a Gravatar” button conveniently located next to the name field.

  19. kenny
    kenny
    February 16, 2015 at 12:03 am | #

    I forget, does Ethan know what happened? Did Joyce ever confide in him about that night?

    • dailybrad
      dailybrad
      February 16, 2015 at 12:06 am | #

      I don’t know if he knows, but I think he can tell Joyce is shaken. Amber might have told him if he didn’t tell her, though, since Amber and Ethan do talk and she understood the reason for the arrangement.

      • Gigafreak
        Gigafreak
        February 16, 2015 at 12:18 am | #

        Amber only recently started talking to Ethan again, though. Probably not long enough to get to personal gossip like that.

        • NotPiffany
          NotPiffany
          February 16, 2015 at 7:55 am | #

          I’d be disappointed in Amber if she spread the story of another person’s near-rape (or actual rape) without their permission.

          • Gigafreak
            Gigafreak
            February 16, 2015 at 9:21 am | #

            Exactly. Ethan is trusted, and the information would be directly relevant to him as her boyfriend-until-today, but this really is the kind of thing that would warrant an “If you want to know about that, you should ask her yourself. …Says Amazi-Girl, not Amber. Amber doesn’t ‘know’ about it.”

    • Solenoid
      Solenoid
      February 16, 2015 at 12:06 am | #

      It would help him understand exactly how she’d been using him, so Joyce ought to say something about it. He doesn’t know, though. Joyce never told him.

      • dailybrad
        dailybrad
        February 16, 2015 at 12:14 am | #

        He knows as least part of what the deal was. She wanted a boyfriend, but she also didn’t want to give in to temptation, so she went with someone who wasn’t going to go all the way with her no matter what, anyhow.

    • Gangler
      Gangler
      February 16, 2015 at 12:47 am | #

      Somewhere else in the comments somebody speculated that spending time with Amber has left him sensitive to this sort of stuff.

      Could be that he’s just learned not to treat it as something silly or trivial when somebody doesn’t want to walk alone.

    • Rycan
      Rycan
      February 16, 2015 at 1:52 am | #

      I’m not sure if it’s been directly covered, but I think Joyce has asked Ethan to escort her. If so, an explanation may or may not have been given. I think Ethan knows when not to ask questions.

  20. Marc in MN
    Marc in MN
    February 16, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

    Meanwhile, Dorothy and Walky are apparently still running in that direction.

    They would have made it sooner, but someone started playing “Chariots of Fire” out of their dorm room window and they were forced to run in slow-motion.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      February 16, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

      That’s why you should never wear a Baywatch style red one-piece even under your clothes.

      • newllend(henryvolt)
        newllend(henryvolt)
        February 16, 2015 at 12:09 am | #

        Joyce went in that direction let’s run after her( SLOWLY)

      • NotFred
        NotFred
        February 16, 2015 at 2:18 am | #

        Or six million dollar legs.

        • Screwball
          Screwball
          February 16, 2015 at 7:14 pm | #

          From what I’ve seen, you need to put on a cheezy 80s cocky/power face for the 6 million Dollar Man run. And the sound effect helps too.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      February 16, 2015 at 12:08 am | #

      They were running at full speed and Ruth saw them and said “No running in the dorm!” and their bodies refused to run any longer.

      • Solenoid
        Solenoid
        February 16, 2015 at 12:20 am | #

        Except Ruth’s currently in bed and asleep. Me, I think they’re busy fighting their way through the Ryans. Boy, there sure are a lot of them.

        • Marc in MN
          Marc in MN
          February 16, 2015 at 12:42 am | #

          Is it like that Agent Smith battle in Matrix Reloaded?

          • Solenoid
            Solenoid
            February 16, 2015 at 12:51 am | #

            I’d like to imagine so.

            • Screwball
              Screwball
              February 16, 2015 at 7:24 pm | #

              *Plays Burly Brawl theme from Matrix as I imagine Walky going all Matrix Neo on the mind!Ryans, Dorothy taking on the mind!Ryans Trinity’s style…*

              *People running like crazy to get away from the crazy couple beating up random people…*

              • Marc in MN
                Marc in MN
                February 16, 2015 at 8:03 pm | #

                And some mind!Ryan goes skidding across the ground, then says, “More……”

        • Andrusi
          Andrusi
          February 16, 2015 at 8:14 am | #

          I picture them jumping on various Ryans’ heads over and over.

          By this point they’re getting extra lives every time.

          • Rycan
            Rycan
            February 16, 2015 at 11:50 am | #

            Then Walky walks straight into a Ryan, and falls off the planet. Annoying when that happens.

            • Gigafreak
              Gigafreak
              February 16, 2015 at 12:38 pm | #

              Accompanied by a comical “oops!” musical sting, no doubt.
              Better hope he reached a save checkpoint recently!

      • cesium133
        cesium133
        February 16, 2015 at 12:21 am | #

        It’s hard for them to run without femurs.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      February 16, 2015 at 5:08 am | #

      Or they stopped ten meters away, realized a breakup was going on and has since then ackwardly pretended not to listen.

      • Screwball
        Screwball
        February 16, 2015 at 7:32 pm | #

        Possibly, but that’s not as much fun for us… 😛

  21. chris73
    chris73
    February 16, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

    You’re a good guy Ethan

  22. Weebles
    Weebles
    February 16, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

    The sad part is, my real name is Ryan so every time he shows up it feels personal. 🙁

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      February 16, 2015 at 12:08 am | #

      I feel the same way about that bloody Disney parrot.

      • caesaria82
        caesaria82
        February 16, 2015 at 12:16 am | #

        ….. Iago?

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          February 16, 2015 at 12:23 am | #

          Yup, le sigh…

          • Totz the Plaid
            Totz the Plaid
            February 16, 2015 at 12:27 am | #

            Better not watch Othello, then…

          • caesaria82
            caesaria82
            February 16, 2015 at 12:28 am | #

            Awww, I think that’s pretty cool. It’s a Shakespearean name. I always wanted one of those. Cordelia or Portia or Viola or something lol. But tbh Iago is badass. I’d embrace it 😀

            • neeks
              neeks
              February 16, 2015 at 1:10 am | #

              These days if you’re named Cordelia, people would assume it’s for the Buffy/Angel character…even if you were born before btvs came out. (Not speaking from experience, though.)

              • caesaria82
                caesaria82
                February 16, 2015 at 1:22 am | #

                I’d embrace that too, I loved her, hah.

              • Usayasha
                Usayasha
                February 16, 2015 at 4:14 am | #

                I’m in a similar boat, but my name is Cullen so people think I have something to do with Twilight.

                Which is a tragic thing to be associated with, but oh well. Still a better love story than 50 Shades of Gray.

                • No Name
                  No Name
                  February 16, 2015 at 2:08 pm | #

                  Well, 50 Shades is a Twilight fanfic. What do you expect?

                • neeks
                  neeks
                  February 18, 2015 at 12:04 am | #

                  I told my mom that 50sog was a twilight fanfic, and then I had to explain to her what “twilight” and “fanfiction” was.

                • Emma
                  Emma
                  February 18, 2015 at 8:08 am | #

                  Well, at least you’ll have a slew of Dragon Age fans somewhere in the world!

            • That Damn Rat
              That Damn Rat
              February 16, 2015 at 1:22 am | #

              Well, yes it is a Shakespearean name, but it is also the name of one of the biggest douches in Shakespeare’s works.

              • caesaria82
                caesaria82
                February 16, 2015 at 1:25 am | #

                True, he’s despicable. But he’s a great antagonist character, clevery written and an archetype now for many modern villains. Plus come on, the name is cool as hell 😉

                • Marie
                  Marie
                  February 16, 2015 at 2:28 am | #

                  He’s my favourite villain, I think (and Emilia’s my favourite Shakespeare character), but I can see why the Aladdin one would be annoying.

              • anonymsly
                anonymsly
                February 16, 2015 at 10:33 am | #

                Also one of Shakespeare’s only ‘successful’ villains. Nearly everyone he wanted dead dies after suffering horribly for a while, and he survives it all.

      • Lawzlo
        Lawzlo
        February 16, 2015 at 12:20 am | #

        There’s a Disney parrot named Plasma Mongoose? That’s a Hell of a weird coincidence.

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          February 16, 2015 at 12:23 am | #

          heh! 😛

      • Historyman68
        Historyman68
        February 16, 2015 at 12:30 am | #

        Despite exclusively being a villain name in fiction, Iago’s a pretty dope name.

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          February 16, 2015 at 12:33 am | #

          Iago is the Spanish form of James.

          • NotFred
            NotFred
            February 16, 2015 at 2:54 am | #

            Actually it is the spanish form of the greek “Iacobus”. “James” comes from it as well, but they have independent etymological lines.

            As far as I know “Iago” is barely used outside Galicia (spanish community), world wide the most common versions could be “Diego” and “Santiago”.

            • Random832
              Random832
              February 16, 2015 at 10:19 am | #

              Doesn’t “Santiago” just mean “Saint Iago”?

              • No Name
                No Name
                February 16, 2015 at 2:11 pm | #

                Which is why it’s more popular than “Iago”, no doubt.

              • NotFred
                NotFred
                February 16, 2015 at 8:49 pm | #

                Exactly, from the apostle Iacobus (actually Ya’akov, in english James son of Zebedee) named in ancient spanish “Sant Iago”. “Diego” (and the least known “Tiago”) comes in turn from it.

                Them all are versions of “Iago”.

    • dailybrad
      dailybrad
      February 16, 2015 at 12:15 am | #

      #NotAllRyans

    • Rycan
      Rycan
      February 16, 2015 at 12:45 am | #

      I just tell myself not to make it personal. Other people share names with villains, after all. There’s everyone named Blaine or Ross who reads this comic, for instance. And there’s probably somebody who was named Head Alien by hippie parents.

      • neeks
        neeks
        February 16, 2015 at 1:13 am | #

        Ross? Did you mean Roz and get autocorrected or am I forgetting a doa character people Ross’s (rosses?) regret being associated with?

        • Rycan
          Rycan
          February 16, 2015 at 2:12 am | #

          Becky’s father. Never actually named in DoA, but Willis made it clear that he is Ross.

          • neeks
            neeks
            February 18, 2015 at 12:06 am | #

            Ah, that’d be why I had no idea who that is. I haven’t been on tumblr or anything in a while, so this site is where I get all my info on the comic.

      • Usayasha
        Usayasha
        February 16, 2015 at 4:16 am | #

        And there’s all the poor Marys out there, too.

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          February 16, 2015 at 5:15 am | #

          Mary and it’s many variations being one of the most popular female names since Biblical times.

        • Andrusi
          Andrusi
          February 16, 2015 at 8:17 am | #

          And then there are the Rachels, who are just kind of confused.

      • No Name
        No Name
        February 16, 2015 at 8:42 am | #

        Also, the Naomis, what with her being Ethan’s mom. And what’s Mrs. Walkerton’s first name again? I’m sure there all angry too.

        • Rycan
          Rycan
          February 16, 2015 at 10:36 am | #

          Linda. She had some… surprises in It’s Walky! (and I will say no more)

          • Gamaran Sepudomyn
            Gamaran Sepudomyn
            February 16, 2015 at 11:13 am | #

            The fact that she was batshit crazy was kind of obvious from the beginning, though.

  23. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    February 16, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

    If you love something set it free. If it comes back, then its yours.
    (Just like me!)

    • newllend(henryvolt)
      newllend(henryvolt)
      February 16, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

      Where you been? On one of your long ass spiritual journeys again?

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        February 16, 2015 at 12:09 am | #

        If I’m honest I was very hesitant to comment here for a while. I kinda upset some people. Most people told me to just stop commenting here, but I love you guys too much.

        • Riku
          Riku
          February 16, 2015 at 12:13 am | #

          What’s the context there? You’re one of the cooler ones I’ve noticed

          • Yotomoe
            Yotomoe
            February 16, 2015 at 12:17 am | #

            I’m being vague cuz I don’t really wanna talk about it. Also one of the cooler whats?

            • Solenoid
              Solenoid
              February 16, 2015 at 12:21 am | #

              Eh. I’d read the comment thread you’re specifically not talking about, and it had seemed like a big misunderstanding to me.

              • Rycan
                Rycan
                February 16, 2015 at 12:46 am | #

                A big, ugly misunderstanding.

                • Yotomoe
                  Yotomoe
                  February 16, 2015 at 1:12 am | #

                  Well I am Big and Ugly!

            • Riku
              Riku
              February 16, 2015 at 12:21 am | #

              One of the cooler commenters on Willis’s comics. I’m sleepy so my words are coming out stupid, sorry.

            • newllend(henryvolt)
              newllend(henryvolt)
              February 16, 2015 at 12:23 am | #

              Let’s not, certain things on the internet are better left buried.

              And I think he ment one of the Cooler commenters who comer here regularly( apparently newllends not a fan favorite)

              • Gigafreak
                Gigafreak
                February 16, 2015 at 12:31 am | #

                Well, I used to be an honest-to-goodness troll on Keenspot years ago, so you can hopefully feel better in comparison

        • Rycan
          Rycan
          February 16, 2015 at 1:05 am | #

          You weren’t the only one who stepped on toes in that thread, believe me. I certainly share some blame. Best to learn and move on.

          • Rycan
            Rycan
            February 16, 2015 at 1:10 am | #

            And I want to preemptively state that I don’t think a discussion of who’s to blame for what will help here. Just wanted to point out that Yotomoe wasn’t alone.

    • Steven
      Steven
      February 16, 2015 at 12:17 am | #

      Unless it comes back with like twenty armed friends.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        February 16, 2015 at 12:28 am | #

        But twenty armed friends give GREAT hugs!
        (It’s a play on words, you see.)

        • Kyrros
          Kyrros
          February 16, 2015 at 1:40 am | #

          I see what you did there <_<

        • Gamaran Sepudomyn
          Gamaran Sepudomyn
          February 16, 2015 at 11:15 am | #

          Being crushed to death by friends is not fun. And how the heck would they balance? They’d probably die from various related issues before they were more than a year old.
          …
          I am a horrible, horrible person.

          • Rycan
            Rycan
            February 16, 2015 at 11:55 am | #

            Perhaps they’re anthropods. Granted they’d have difficulty giving hugs to humans, but living with twenty limbs would be easy.

          • Screwball
            Screwball
            February 16, 2015 at 7:42 pm | #

            I can see someone like that basically using the arms to walk, a mass of well coordinated limbs flailing around as they propel themselves at surprising speeds… 😛

        • Rheinman137
          Rheinman137
          February 16, 2015 at 3:24 pm | #

          I saw mommy kissing Yog Sothoth…

          • Tenn
            Tenn
            February 16, 2015 at 6:42 pm | #

            Oh, what a laugh it would have been
            If Shub-Niggurath had seen
            Mommy kissing Yog-Sothoth last night!

            Wait, how did we get here?

    • Screwball
      Screwball
      February 16, 2015 at 7:44 pm | #

      If you love something set it free. If it comes back, then its yours.
      (Just like me!)
      .
      If it doesn’t, hunt it down & kill it?

      Seen that version around… 😛

  24. timemonkey
    timemonkey
    February 16, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

    I wonder if maybe Amber gave Ethan a heads up on what happened to Joyce. She both knows and has realised how badly affected Joyce is by the event.

    Also, Willis you could just replace all the Ryans with bongos.

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      February 16, 2015 at 12:09 am | #

      What’s is with all the bongo references?

      • Gigafreak
        Gigafreak
        February 16, 2015 at 12:21 am | #

        Ryan always dreamed of going on stage and reciting poetry between beats of his hand drums

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          February 16, 2015 at 12:24 am | #

          He did? I don’t recall that at all.

          • Gigafreak
            Gigafreak
            February 16, 2015 at 12:33 am | #

            I’m being a smartass. The word that rhymes with “witch” has been auto-filtered to the hand drum because entirely too many people decided “calling Roz by this gender-charged epithet” was a good idea.

            • WaytoomanyUIDs
              WaytoomanyUIDs
              February 16, 2015 at 10:00 am | #

              An argument can be made that “bongo” can and has been used as a racially charged epithet.

              • Gigafreak
                Gigafreak
                February 16, 2015 at 12:43 pm | #

                http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bongos
                I don’t see any race-related definition in there. Care to go add it in?

                • David M Willis
                  David M Willis
                  February 16, 2015 at 12:50 pm | #

                  they didn’t say it was a GOOD argument

        • Crazy Dina
          Crazy Dina
          February 16, 2015 at 12:54 am | #

          Okay, I maaaaaaaaaaaaaay want to see that. And have that end badly. (Maybe Ultra Car throwing a pie in his face, saying “Hey Bongo! Here’s a message from another universe! and doing her classic middle middle finger flippoff?)

      • caesaria82
        caesaria82
        February 16, 2015 at 12:31 am | #

        In the comments to the strip where Roz calls out Joyce so many people were calling her a ‘female dog’ that Willis replaced that word with bongo. And the world became a better place.

        • timemonkey
          timemonkey
          February 16, 2015 at 12:35 am | #

          Or at least a funnier place.

          • caesaria82
            caesaria82
            February 16, 2015 at 12:42 am | #

            A funnier place is always a better place.

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          February 16, 2015 at 12:45 am | #

          So if you say bongo, it replaces it with bongo?

          • Plasma Mongoose
            Plasma Mongoose
            February 16, 2015 at 12:46 am | #

            Well I’ll be an SOB.

            • Gigafreak
              Gigafreak
              February 16, 2015 at 12:53 am | #

              SOB? Sounds of Bongos?

              So you are the embodiment of Rumba

              • NotPiffany
                NotPiffany
                February 16, 2015 at 8:01 am | #

                Or beat poetry. *snaps fingers*

          • Gigafreak
            Gigafreak
            February 16, 2015 at 12:48 am | #

            No, no, if you type bongo, it replaces it with bongo!

          • Rycan
            Rycan
            February 16, 2015 at 1:17 am | #

            Also retroactive, across all DoA threads.

            Of course, we’re already starting to see people circumventing the filter.

    • Crazy Dina
      Crazy Dina
      February 16, 2015 at 12:12 am | #

      ON IT!

    • Crazy Dina
      Crazy Dina
      February 16, 2015 at 12:51 am | #

      http://crazyhead42.tumblr.com/post/111153313840/as-requested-all-of-ryan-are-bongos-i-3 ^.^

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        February 16, 2015 at 1:13 am | #

        Except those are congas. These are bongos. http://www.stevesgifts.com/images/XM/Bongo/Bongo_Light_BOG0708-NT.jpg

        • Crazy Dina
          Crazy Dina
          February 16, 2015 at 12:25 pm | #

          How can you tell?

      • Rycan
        Rycan
        February 16, 2015 at 1:13 am | #

        To be fair, I would be pretty freaked out too by everyone around me turning into giant bongo drums

      • Tandel
        Tandel
        February 16, 2015 at 10:37 am | #

        Here’s your internet, good sir.

    • Gangler
      Gangler
      February 16, 2015 at 12:52 am | #

      I don’t think Amber would’ve shared information like that without Joyce’s consent.

    • Rycan
      Rycan
      February 16, 2015 at 1:12 am | #

      I for one prefer to not be addressed by the name ‘Bongo’.

      • Rycan
        Rycan
        February 16, 2015 at 2:16 am | #

        All Ethan needs is a bat.

        • Rycan
          Rycan
          February 16, 2015 at 2:17 am | #

          This random self-reply brought to you by our obtuse commenting system.

        • Gigafreak
          Gigafreak
          February 16, 2015 at 9:24 am | #

          Ethan needs a bat, and Ethan (as a gay man) needs a man, and Ethan (as a toy collector) needs a Batman.

  25. Foxhack
    Foxhack
    February 16, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

    Yes, this is what I wanted to see.

    Ethan being a friend to her.

  26. zmm
    zmm
    February 16, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

    Good on ya buddy.
    also I forgot that guy had a scar.

    I’m waiting for her to see him..and go Dark Joyce on his shitty ass. Then Ethan or Dorothy to pull her off and send her off with Sara (always her at the end and never during) and then someone beating the crap out of the guy

    • Carriethedragon
      Carriethedragon
      February 16, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

      It’s the wound from where she smashed him in the face with a glass.

    • No Name
      No Name
      February 16, 2015 at 6:03 am | #

      If I remember correctly, Sarah was the “during” in the Ryan incident.

      • Screwball
        Screwball
        February 16, 2015 at 8:07 pm | #

        Yep. How does it go, “Hey batta battahey batta hey batta batta sw-ing batta…

        I think I like her style…

  27. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    February 16, 2015 at 12:05 am | #

    To be fair you used each other.

    • airyu
      airyu
      February 16, 2015 at 12:08 am | #

      But Joyce doesn’t know that.

      • dailybrad
        dailybrad
        February 16, 2015 at 12:16 am | #

        She does, she knew Ethan wanted an out from being “the gay guy”. Which is narcissistic of him, given he wouldn’t exactly be the only one, but given his background with his parents, it makes sense.

        • That Damn Rat
          That Damn Rat
          February 16, 2015 at 1:26 am | #

          Given that he said exactly that to her when they started dating, yes. She knew.

          • Rycan
            Rycan
            February 16, 2015 at 1:48 am | #

            Not when they started – it was after Amber confronted him.

            • Bagge
              Bagge
              February 16, 2015 at 5:02 am | #

              That’s the crucial distinction to me. Joyce was not given the choice to enter the relationship as Ethan’s beard. She was given the choice to continue the scam that was already going on (and she was clearly bothered by it when she discussed it with Sarah afterwards).

              The both got something they wanted out of it, and this was about as good as it could possibly end, but it has been damaging for both of them.

  28. mogoskier
    mogoskier
    February 16, 2015 at 12:06 am | #

    Does Ethan know what happened with Ryan or is he just really good at reading signals.

    • dailybrad
      dailybrad
      February 16, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

      We’re not sure, though there’s a chance he might, since Amber knows and Amber also knows Joyce is afraid of being around men she doesn’t know without people with her.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      February 16, 2015 at 4:57 am | #

      Joyce is not THAT hard to read, and he has been her security blanket for a while now. She’s also in the middle of the worst panic attack we have seen since the ding-dong incident (and this one is longer).

      • Tandel
        Tandel
        February 16, 2015 at 10:44 am | #

        It’s about twice as long as the Ding-dong.

        About 50% more girth, too.

        • Gigafreak
          Gigafreak
          February 16, 2015 at 12:46 pm | #

          Though this one is about the cessation of a figurative dick move rather than the perpetration of somewhat literal dick moves

    • anonymsly
      anonymsly
      February 16, 2015 at 10:42 am | #

      Ethan is Amber’s best friend, and as we saw from Amber’s flashback, Ethan was an ‘expert’ in Amber’s mumbling, how to get her talking more calmly – in essence, he got very very good at helping a best friend who could be scared and anxious at the drop of a hat. (For good reason, given her home life.)

      I have no problem believing that Ethan noticed Joyce’s anxiety about men she doesn’t know. He definitely said something like ‘My girlfriend doesn’t need me to walk her to class today’ to Danny, showing that he knows his company is a need from Joyce, not a want.

      • Freemage
        Freemage
        February 16, 2015 at 12:47 pm | #

        Oooh.. bravo. I had missed the significance of that (the ‘doesn’t need me’ bit), even on rereads.

  29. Varius
    Varius
    February 16, 2015 at 12:07 am | #

    Ethan is awesome. A true friend and a stand-up guy.

    (See what I did there?)

    • airyu
      airyu
      February 16, 2015 at 12:11 am | #

      …the Jason gravatar is ridiculously fitting for you…

      • Varius
        Varius
        February 16, 2015 at 12:12 am | #

        How so?

    • chris73
      chris73
      February 16, 2015 at 12:13 am | #

      Hes made some questionable choices in men but, that aside, hes being a good friend and a better person here

    • Gigafreak
      Gigafreak
      February 16, 2015 at 12:22 am | #

      I think that joke only works in the other universe

      • neeks
        neeks
        February 16, 2015 at 1:16 am | #

        It only works as a joke BECAUSE of the other universe.

        • Gigafreak
          Gigafreak
          February 16, 2015 at 1:30 am | #

          He doesn’t do stand-up in this one though

  30. ChocolateRat
    ChocolateRat
    February 16, 2015 at 12:08 am | #

    Aww. I’ll really like these two together as friends.

  31. airyu
    airyu
    February 16, 2015 at 12:09 am | #

    What is Ethan looking at on the last panel?

    • TheTJ
      TheTJ
      February 16, 2015 at 12:10 am | #

      DESTINY!

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      February 16, 2015 at 12:10 am | #

      He’s ascended boyfriend status and has reached the level of guardian angel. From his perspective there’s a bright light shining on him.

      • Lord Geovanni
        Lord Geovanni
        February 16, 2015 at 12:24 am | #

        smells like friend zone to me

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          February 16, 2015 at 12:29 am | #

          Friend Zone Act 1.

          • Gigafreak
            Gigafreak
            February 16, 2015 at 12:42 am | #

            Eggman’s machine at the end self-destructs without the player’s intervention because the Friend Zone mentality is self-defeating like that

        • neeks
          neeks
          February 16, 2015 at 1:19 am | #

          No, Joyce is the one who got friend-zoned in this context, but that was kind of their shared goal, so idk if the usual context for the term works here.

        • Rycan
          Rycan
          February 16, 2015 at 1:23 am | #

          He’s gay – and has always been uncomfortable with Joyce’s subtle advances. If he succeeds in staying friends, I think he’ll view this as an improvement (except when he next has to talk to his parents).

    • newllend(henryvolt)
      newllend(henryvolt)
      February 16, 2015 at 12:13 am | #

      Ethan: You see this Joyce ? For everything the light touches is my Kingdom, and one day it will be yours.

      • Lord Geovanni
        Lord Geovanni
        February 16, 2015 at 12:24 am | #

        wait! ethan is gonna die soon?

        • Gigafreak
          Gigafreak
          February 16, 2015 at 12:26 am | #

          The villain in this story DOES bear a facial scar…

          • zach
            zach
            February 16, 2015 at 8:53 pm | #

            But he isn’t a fabulous, brilliant queen.

      • Rycan
        Rycan
        February 16, 2015 at 1:25 am | #

        Ethan would be stealing Galasso’s thunder, and that is ill-advised.

      • Gamaran Sepudomyn
        Gamaran Sepudomyn
        February 16, 2015 at 11:32 am | #

        I read “Kingdom” as “Klingon”. Am I the only one?

  32. caesaria82
    caesaria82
    February 16, 2015 at 12:11 am | #

    You’re a good egg, Ethan.

  33. The Thing
    The Thing
    February 16, 2015 at 12:11 am | #

    Joyce is being a bit hard on herself. They used each other – Ethan used Joyce as his beard and Joyce used Ethan to try and prove homosexuality could be cured.

    • dailybrad
      dailybrad
      February 16, 2015 at 12:17 am | #

      There’s more to it than that, but it was a mutually poor decision, their relationship. Luckily, a friendship seems to have formed.

      • Freemage
        Freemage
        February 16, 2015 at 6:50 pm | #

        Yup. Like a beautiful and fragrant rose, rising from the fetid, rotting manure.

    • Ranthog
      Ranthog
      February 16, 2015 at 12:56 am | #

      Well keep in mind, she can use the “correcting” Ethan to justify within her beliefs hanging out with him. Outside of pretending to be his girlfriend I don’t remember any strips where Joyce actively tries to cure homosexuality.

      More so I think that Joyce was using Ethan to feel safe, secure, and loved. She used him to have what she wanted: a boyfriend who she didn’t have to worry about doing anything to her, and who would keep her from doing anything too sinful. (After all she’s also as scared of herself as much as she is of others.)

      • Rycan
        Rycan
        February 16, 2015 at 1:46 am | #

        She pressured him to suppress his homosexual urges. She only did it lightly, but it was a push in the wrong direction for his psychological health. I think that is what Joyce is deeply regretting.

        • Ranthog
          Ranthog
          February 16, 2015 at 9:57 pm | #

          Joyce should feel guilty about it because the means to her ends were wrong. The motives though are important consideration, and it paints Joyce unfairly if converting Ethan to heterosexuality to be her main and only goal. (Especially considering the fact that she didn’t date him initially because he was gay.)

          Their relationship was always a coping mechanism for both Joyce and Ethan. Both of them have things that they want to hide from and things they’re afraid of. The fact that both of them wanted it is important. It isn’t something that in the long run would have been healthy for either of them.

      • fogel
        fogel
        February 16, 2015 at 10:53 pm | #

        Joyce also quite liked hugs in which she could press against Ethans chest….

        • The Thing
          The Thing
          February 16, 2015 at 11:08 pm | #

          I think we’d all like that.

          I mean, everyone except me would like that.

          Because I don’t in any way fantasize about being held close to Ethan’s broad, warm chest and smelling his cologne and…

          I’ll be in my bunk.

    • Rycan
      Rycan
      February 16, 2015 at 1:27 am | #

      If you wrong someone, and they wrong you, those two wrongs do not cancel each other out. You should still own up to what you’ve done.

      • Gigafreak
        Gigafreak
        February 16, 2015 at 3:55 pm | #

        Your selection of gravatar certainly seems appropriate for that argument.

  34. Idon'tcarenomore
    Idon'tcarenomore
    February 16, 2015 at 12:16 am | #

    Always has been more or less there for her, when they weren’t trying to pass as a couple. I’m guessing he’s taking it well because they aren’t in love and he does care about her.
    He may be a jerk sometimes, but looks like here he knows that she is trying to do right for the both of him.
    The flood of tears may possiblely let him know how hard it was for her, maybe :).

    I don’t blame Mr. W. never caring if draws Ryan ever again…for many reasons.

    Wonder if he is really out there tonight?

    • Rycan
      Rycan
      February 16, 2015 at 1:32 am | #

      I think Ethan loves Joyce, just like he loves Amber – there’s just no lust for either.

      And if Ryan is out there, then he’s going to regret it.

  35. Lord Geovanni
    Lord Geovanni
    February 16, 2015 at 12:16 am | #

    you cant weasle your way out of this Willis you have to explain whats up with him its burning me

    • Gigafreak
      Gigafreak
      February 16, 2015 at 12:24 am | #

      Click Ryan’s name and see his first appearances then

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      February 16, 2015 at 12:29 am | #

      This would be a good Ryan comic to start off with.

      http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/mark/

      • neeks
        neeks
        February 16, 2015 at 1:25 am | #

        Geovanni might have meant “what is Ryan up to currently?”

        Actually, has anyone even nominated him for a monthly patreon bonus strip? Or have I just earned willis’s ire by asking/suggesting it? I get the feeling that if the subscribers did vote for a Ryan strip, it would be like the time we voted for Becky…right before her next in comic appearance. Although I guess he could just draw more of Joyce hallucinating, but the dramatic effect is a bit lessened now that we already know about it.

    • Lord Geovanni
      Lord Geovanni
      February 16, 2015 at 3:47 am | #

      i actually meant less who the character was and more why he’s walking around in duplicate and triplicate in the same pannel. i did forget him though though there was some v for vendetta thing going on

      • Lord Geovanni
        Lord Geovanni
        February 16, 2015 at 4:04 am | #

        Oh! Joyce’s imagination i would never have known that if i didnt read the comments or seen some hazyness in the back ground

        • Rycan
          Rycan
          February 16, 2015 at 11:58 am | #

          When she first ran outside alone, she saw normal strangers walking about. Next panel, they were all transformed into Ryans, but still going about their day. Today is just a continuation of that.

  36. Kenjia
    Kenjia
    February 16, 2015 at 12:17 am | #

    Ethan understands what shitheads some people can be. He witnessed Amber’s father growing up. Would not be surprised if he suspects something happened to Joyce based on how shaken she is.
    Also, he is a really good friend. Ethan and Joyce were pretty much friends with hand holding and cuddling benefits… and despite how misguided Joyce may appear in her delivery of her break up with him, it’s clear he respects her more for honoring his identity (and apologizing for trying to help him repress it)

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      February 16, 2015 at 4:53 am | #

      Yup, this goes really well. It looks like Ethan is relieved to end the charade. I’m glad he still supports Joyce.

  37. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    February 16, 2015 at 12:18 am | #

    Maybe now they can both have real relationships and people who loves them for who they are so they can help them grow as people.

  38. Chengrel
    Chengrel
    February 16, 2015 at 12:21 am | #

    Good, the cut left a scar. But how is he in two places at once in the third panel? Or am I looking at it wrong?

    • Totz the Plaid
      Totz the Plaid
      February 16, 2015 at 12:23 am | #

      You’re seeing what Joyce is hallucinating.

      • Gigafreak
        Gigafreak
        February 16, 2015 at 12:24 am | #

        And has been hallucinating ever since she stepped outdoors without safety in numbers.

      • Haven
        Haven
        February 16, 2015 at 12:27 am | #

        I’m assuming she’s not literally hallucinating (because hallucinations do not work that way), but rather that this is visual shorthand for her seeing everyone as potentially doing what he did.

        • Rycan
          Rycan
          February 16, 2015 at 1:34 am | #

          That’s my assumption – you can illustrate a hallucination, but it’s much harder to illustrate a perception.

    • Steven
      Steven
      February 16, 2015 at 12:25 am | #

      Joyce is just imagining that every person she sees is Ryan, his look is based off the last time she saw him.

      Go back and read the last three comic’s.

      • Chengrel
        Chengrel
        February 16, 2015 at 2:46 am | #

        Wow, I did not notice that.

    • quix
      quix
      February 16, 2015 at 12:25 am | #

      You are reading it too literally. For the last couple strips, the idea is that Joyce is seeing Ryan everywhere.

  39. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    February 16, 2015 at 12:22 am | #

    Meeting Becky should hopefully be beneficial for Ethan in his closeted stage.

    But what about Joyce though? Who to solicit help from?

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      February 16, 2015 at 12:27 am | #

      If anyone can pull Ethan out of the closet so she can blow it up, it’s Becky. ^_^

      • Totz the Plaid
        Totz the Plaid
        February 16, 2015 at 12:30 am | #

        …and Joyce has developed a pretty solid friend group to help her. Dorothy, Becky, Ethan, Sarah, even Walky.

    • Rycan
      Rycan
      February 16, 2015 at 1:38 am | #

      A professional – what she’s needed all along. Roz, despite having been the most abrasive to Joyce, is the only one who’s encouraged her to seek out what she really needs. Unfortunately, people tend not to listen to advice from those who berate them.

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        February 16, 2015 at 5:19 am | #

        That’s pretty much a universal trait.

  40. Saki
    Saki
    February 16, 2015 at 12:22 am | #

    Aww, Ethan’s the best! ><

  41. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    February 16, 2015 at 12:26 am | #

    Just to let anyone interested OmegaDez’s wencomic has reached its 100th comic.

    http://frivolesque.com/archives/comic/100-return

    • Gigafreak
      Gigafreak
      February 16, 2015 at 12:35 am | #

      >Wencomic

      Please tell me it’s not related to Faz’s penis

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        February 16, 2015 at 12:47 am | #

        Not according to this chart at least. 😛

    • OmegaDez
      OmegaDez
      February 16, 2015 at 9:22 am | #

      Wow, that’s some random advertisement. XD

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        February 16, 2015 at 9:30 am | #

        Being predictably random is what I do best. ^_^

        • OmegaDez
          OmegaDez
          February 16, 2015 at 12:24 pm | #

          Doesn’t that count as spam though?
          I wouldn’t want Willis to be upset.

          • Plasma Mongoose
            Plasma Mongoose
            February 16, 2015 at 4:31 pm | #

            It might border on spam but since Willis has proven to be willing to support smaller webcomics in the past, I’m sure he will allow it as long as it doesn’t get out of hand.

    • NotFred
      NotFred
      February 16, 2015 at 9:07 pm | #

      And it is the first strip where the url do not match the title. Pearl 😛

      • OmegaDez
        OmegaDez
        February 17, 2015 at 10:19 am | #

        I KNOW, RIGHT?
        I totally forgot to change the URL. And it’s too late now.

  42. Totz the Plaid
    Totz the Plaid
    February 16, 2015 at 12:28 am | #

    I hope Blaine and Ryan die in a car crash by hitting each other head-on.

    • neeks
      neeks
      February 16, 2015 at 1:28 am | #

      For some reason I immediately thought of the “slampora” from homestuck but that’s an unlikely scenario for these guys to ever be in.

  43. Jay
    Jay
    February 16, 2015 at 12:29 am | #

    Except for Ryan, this is exactly what I wanted.

  44. S'toon
    S'toon
    February 16, 2015 at 12:30 am | #

    Joyce always travels with someone outside. She sees Ethan for who he is, instead of the phantom Ryan she’s afraid of because she sees Ethan as safe. Maybe that’s why she said he’s perfect when he outed himself to her, because she’s conflicted. She wanted a hubby, but is now afraid of men and all THAT stuff.

    • Rycan
      Rycan
      February 16, 2015 at 1:40 am | #

      There was (and still is) also her strong desire to avoid the temptation of pre-marital hanky panky.

      • S'toon
        S'toon
        February 17, 2015 at 1:57 am | #

        Which is what I meant by THAT stuff.

  45. Wendy
    Wendy
    February 16, 2015 at 12:42 am | #

    AAHHHH I REALLY HOPE THEY STAY FRIENDS…..poor babies. T_T

  46. Arianod
    Arianod
    February 16, 2015 at 12:45 am | #

    Gee. Looks like you do need him after all. :c

  47. Bearpelt
    Bearpelt
    February 16, 2015 at 12:50 am | #

    Ethan’s a good guy.

    When I was being stalked at my first college and Seth Myers had tried to touch me in dance class, there was only one person in the class I was friends with. There was a ton of drama around our friendship circle at the time, which I remember clearly, and even when the others would rip into him when he wasn’t there, I always had the attitude of, “Fuck you guys, he’s the only one who will walk me to and from class every week where I was sexually assaulted by a student I have to see in class every week. Whatever you think, he’s the only one who did that for me.”

  48. Nothri
    Nothri
    February 16, 2015 at 12:58 am | #

    How is it that I come away from these events feeling like they both did exactly the right thing? How is that possible when those decisions seem to fit on opposite ends of the outcome spectrum??

  49. Chris
    Chris
    February 16, 2015 at 1:00 am | #

    Canon be damned, that’s Tomax and Xamot runnin’ around campus.

  50. Justin
    Justin
    February 16, 2015 at 1:01 am | #

    Well, you have to draw him once more to show him getting every bone in his body obliterated, but after that~

  51. Kris
    Kris
    February 16, 2015 at 1:20 am | #

    Turns out it was officially dress as a random fucktard day at IU.

    • neeks
      neeks
      February 16, 2015 at 1:31 am | #

      Or Ryan’s face is the model used for Anonymous’s new mask.

      I originally said “Ryan’s face is the new mask” but that could be taken more literally than I’m comfortable with.

  52. Cheryl
    Cheryl
    February 16, 2015 at 1:24 am | #

    I just had the scariest thought. But i dont wanna say just in case David has a plan. But omg I swear I will shit kittens if it happens.

    • neeks
      neeks
      February 16, 2015 at 1:36 am | #

      “Joyce sees Ryan in every person she sees, but they’re not all literally Ryan…except for the one who is, who happens to be wearing the exact outfit from the night of the party while wandering around campus”? Fwiw, Willis has the comic drawn months in advance, so it’s not like you could jinx it by speculating. Well, unless that particular scenario wouldn’t have been addressed in the storyline of the next few months.

      But I don’t know…she’ll have to confront this problem eventually anyway.

      • ArkArks
        ArkArks
        February 16, 2015 at 2:21 am | #

        Yeah, because in this comic everyone just does that. They confront their porblems and then live a happy life…

        I don’t think it is going to happen any time soon. So much can still be shown about how bad things can get.

        • neeks
          neeks
          February 18, 2015 at 12:09 am | #

          I feel like “So much can still be shown about how bad things can get” should be the tagline for this comic.

  53. Haintsu
    Haintsu
    February 16, 2015 at 1:30 am | #

    Is it just me or does Ethan look sorta kawaii in the last panel?

    • jadedcynic
      jadedcynic
      February 16, 2015 at 11:09 am | #

      Only in the LAST panel? Where’ve you been for the past few YEARS?!? 😉

  54. That Damn Rat
    That Damn Rat
    February 16, 2015 at 1:31 am | #

    Well, Willis you can get out of drawing him in the future, all it requires is the judicious application of a truck.

    • Mr. Morningstar
      Mr. Morningstar
      February 16, 2015 at 4:25 pm | #

      and or a train and maybe a t-rex thrown in for good measure

  55. JD
    JD
    February 16, 2015 at 1:37 am | #

    Ethan steps UP. Respect.

  56. halcyon1234
    halcyon1234
    February 16, 2015 at 1:41 am | #

    Maybe you can draw Ryan just one more time.

    As a corpse.

  57. CarlaGriffin
    CarlaGriffin
    February 16, 2015 at 1:58 am | #

    I am so on board with this friendship!

  58. NinjaZaku
    NinjaZaku
    February 16, 2015 at 1:58 am | #

    Ethan never ceases to amaze.

    • Gigafreak
      Gigafreak
      February 16, 2015 at 9:33 am | #

      His best friend Amber never ceases to Amazi

  59. Orangey
    Orangey
    February 16, 2015 at 2:08 am | #

    This is just so good of Ethan, as i dont think he even knows about the whole Ryan thing. He’s never questioned the need to walk with Joyce from classes even though he most likely has to go out of his way, and here he knows somethings up and still supports her anyway even though theyre not together.

    I just love these two a lot. I hope they stay really good buddies cause I like seeing them together. (just not romantically. as obviously joyce and becky are girlfs4eva )

  60. Orangey
    Orangey
    February 16, 2015 at 2:12 am | #

    also to whoever said that Joyce was gonna break up with Ethan real quick and then be like BYE GOING TO SEE BECKY NOW LATERS, this was a pretty close!

  61. Rycan
    Rycan
    February 16, 2015 at 2:19 am | #

    Only way this could be better would be if Ethan had a baseball bat.

  62. Darth Cariss
    Darth Cariss
    February 16, 2015 at 2:22 am | #

    Willis, I’ve been reading your comics for way too long to believe you’ll never draw Ryan again.

  63. Ben
    Ben
    February 16, 2015 at 2:29 am | #

    YES! Ethan, thank you for being awesome, and taking the high road (someone was bound to eventually in this comic full of dunderheads).

  64. Liz
    Liz
    February 16, 2015 at 2:44 am | #

    Please draw Ryan one more time. His death scene, please. That would be lovely.

    Also, wow. Good job, Ethan. Good job. Now all we need are Dorothy and Walky, and the Joyce Squad will outnumber the fake Ryans.

    • Al Schroeder
      Al Schroeder
      February 16, 2015 at 3:09 am | #

      His death scene at the hands of Amazi-Girl, please. (Or, running from an enraged Amazi-Girl right into the path of an oncoming bus filled with protestors against date rape and slut-shaming, through no fault of Amazi-Girl–AG has enough to cope with.)

      • jadedcynic
        jadedcynic
        February 16, 2015 at 11:06 am | #

        I’d settle for seeing his face appear on a newspaper or tv screen accompanying the story about how a rapist was arrested, charged, tried, convicted, and is currently serving a LOOOONG prison sentence.

        Given the pace of the comic and the pace of the justice system, even if the first happened the same night of The Party, it’d still be somewhere in the 2020’s where the comic for the above would air…but at least it would be somewhere in the 22nd century before Ryan got out. 🙂

      • Smiling Cat
        Smiling Cat
        February 16, 2015 at 5:13 pm | #

        Yeah, no, let’s not saddle good people with guilt for the death of another human being. Even one such as Ryan.

        Bar of soap, shower. Maybe lightning strike. Let God sort it out.

        • Huttj
          Huttj
          February 16, 2015 at 5:30 pm | #

          My vote’s for a R.K. Milholland guest strip, featuring ceiling gators.

          http://www.somethingpositive.net/sp02132009.shtml

  65. Emperor Kiva
    Emperor Kiva
    February 16, 2015 at 2:52 am | #

    Well at least Ethan’s still nice enough to help Joyce out.

  66. Saru
    Saru
    February 16, 2015 at 2:56 am | #

    No Joyce! LSD is bad!

  67. TheLurkerAbove
    TheLurkerAbove
    February 16, 2015 at 3:11 am | #

    I don’t know about you all, but I thought this is a pretty awesome strip that shows the good in both characters.

  68. Lordess of Madness
    Lordess of Madness
    February 16, 2015 at 4:09 am | #

    What’s with the dude with the cut? Has Amazigirl been at it again?

    • NotaGravatar
      NotaGravatar
      February 16, 2015 at 4:45 am | #

      http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/thessalonians/

      Leading to…

      http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/smash/

    • NotPiffany
      NotPiffany
      February 16, 2015 at 8:17 am | #

      That’s Ryan (or more properly Joyce’s seeing Ryan in every strange male around her). Ryan’s the asshat who tried to rape Joyce. He drugged Joyce, but she smashed the glass into his face, giving him that cut, before he could force her into the bathroom. Then Sarah beat him with her bat. He escaped while Amazi-Girl unwittingly provided a distraction. He’s been at large ever since.

      • jadedcynic
        jadedcynic
        February 16, 2015 at 11:02 am | #

        …and because of that experience with a seemingly nice man, Joyce has been paralyzed with fear when confronted with male strangers – the ‘every extra is Ryan’ is a rather poignant illustration of that – and she’s been leaning on Ethan for support and safety.

        Oh, and just a quick tangent – my avatar needs to apologize to your avatar. 😉

  69. heavvymetalqueen
    heavvymetalqueen
    February 16, 2015 at 4:28 am | #

    these last few strips have been a pretty heavy emotional punch. I feel bad for the people calling out Ethan for “using Joyce too” and stuff. They helped each other. They still are. I’m happy to see that.

    Ethan is such a good guy. He deserves a good boyfriend to love him very very much.

  70. Corlanthis
    Corlanthis
    February 16, 2015 at 4:32 am | #

    This strip needs a like button. THIS STRIP NEEDS A LIKE BUTTON!!!!!

  71. Kaunisenkeli
    Kaunisenkeli
    February 16, 2015 at 4:41 am | #

    He doesn’t have to be your boyfriend to be there to support you, Joyce. Here’s hoping they remain friends.

  72. Bagge
    Bagge
    February 16, 2015 at 4:43 am | #

    Look a that, not only Joyce is doing the right thing today. Good on you Ethan.

  73. DuckDuckMoose
    DuckDuckMoose
    February 16, 2015 at 5:36 am | #

    And then, just like that, Ethan became the coolest guy in the world. Anti-damn you, Willis. Or… contra-damn you? “Bless you” is a little too painfully earnest for me, especially with this avatar I was dealt.

    (Also, hey, DW, feel free never to draw Ryan again. I don’t even need to know how many of his ribs Sarah broke. He’s just not worth it.)

    • NotPiffany
      NotPiffany
      February 16, 2015 at 8:24 am | #

      Something just occurred to me. It’s possible that the real Ryan isn’t even on campus anymore (assuming he was actually a student at IU in the first place). He got a glass smashed in his face, was beaten with a bat, and then an angry young woman stomped on him. He may have needed medical attention after all of that.

      • No Name
        No Name
        February 16, 2015 at 8:32 am | #

        There’s no “may” about it. If he didn’t go to hospital, he’s probably dead of a punctured lung or internal bleeding and lying in a morgue somewhere as a John Doe.

        • DuckDuckMoose
          DuckDuckMoose
          February 16, 2015 at 10:17 am | #

          Personally, I really hope we never find out anything more about the real guy, because only Joyce’s mind-Ryans are important to the story at this point. For what it’s worth, though, I think he made it to a hospital, told some wild story about getting jumped by a gang of bodybuilders on PCP, and crawled back home to his pastor dad. Unless he’s a deeply irrational type of predator, he won’t be seen anywhere near campus again, not when there are a dozen or more witnesses who could ID him.

          • Bagge
            Bagge
            February 16, 2015 at 10:30 am | #

            I really hope you are right for exact that same reason – Ryan’s part of the story is over. What’s important now is how Joyce handle the trauma and how she deals with the knowledge that seemingly normal – even good – men might assault her. That story arc will end with her defeating mind Ryan. If the REAL Ryan shows up and get the crap kicked out of him it will only serve as a metaphor for her defeat of mind-Ryan (and a pretty bad one at that – I mean, it’s not like Amber’s problems disappeared once she kicked the shit out of Blaine).

            In fact, I think mind Ryan as it is described here (every man on campus is Ryan) is a perfect visual aid for Joyce trauma (and the concept Shrodinger’s Rapist), and I think his eventual defeat will be perfectly demonstrated by the men turning normal again.

            That said, I can’t help but think that it would be an awesome act of storytelling to have Joyce live through day after day with random mind-Ryans in the background – more or fewer depending on how secure she feels at the moment- and at some point when all of us have grown complacent one of them will turn out to be real. OOOOOOH SHIIIIIIT.

  74. Jimmy
    Jimmy
    February 16, 2015 at 7:41 am | #

    If you’ve heard multiple crash sounds over the past few days, that’s just been the sound of my heart breaking after reading DoA lately. Not that that’s a bad thing, but it’s amazing how fictional characters can instill so much emotion.

  75. ShazamWow!
    ShazamWow!
    February 16, 2015 at 8:16 am | #

    Hopefully this is the beginning of a beautiful, healthy friendship. Joyce and Ethan could be much better for each other outside of a faked romance.

    • RandomRedMage
      RandomRedMage
      February 16, 2015 at 10:21 am | #

      yes.

  76. Sam
    Sam
    February 16, 2015 at 9:26 am | #

    D’awwww

  77. brumagem
    brumagem
    February 16, 2015 at 10:06 am | #

    I’m crying. I’m crying. I don’t know why this scene feels so powerful AND I WANT TO SIT HERE AND CRY FOREVER.

    • No Name
      No Name
      February 16, 2015 at 2:28 pm | #

      There, there, Sal, it’s alright. Just let it all out.

  78. lensipensi
    lensipensi
    February 16, 2015 at 10:51 am | #

    I really like this strip!

  79. anonymsly
    anonymsly
    February 16, 2015 at 10:55 am | #

    Ethan Siegal, you are a good, good person. Someone you care about has just rejected you; however little you really wanted the role she rejected, and however good for you it will be in the long run, it’s gotta sting now. But she’s still scared and anxious, so you step up to help her do what she needs to do just like you’ve always done, even though you know nothing about why exactly she’s scared.

    Kindness in the fake-people population of the media I consume always gets me.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      February 16, 2015 at 11:11 am | #

      Hear, hear!

    • Bill
      Bill
      February 16, 2015 at 12:47 pm | #

      And with this one act, this one touch of Joyce’s shoulder, these four words, Ethan has become a mensch.

  80. Camille
    Camille
    February 16, 2015 at 11:22 am | #

    THE GUY WITH THE SCAR. THAT’S THE RAPIST GUY. THE RAPIST GUY JOYCE HIT AT THAT PARTY. OMG IT’S HIM.

    Alright carry on.

  81. Dani Kelley
    Dani Kelley
    February 16, 2015 at 11:23 am | #

    This makes me so happy.

    My freshman year of college, I was assaulted in one of my classes. The dean of students assured me that my attacker would be suspended. He never was. The following semester, I had to see him 3-4x a week. Everyone I’d told about the attack had told me it was my fault or it wasn’t a big deal, so I didn’t have anyone to help me or even just…be with me when I’d have to walk past him after classes. It was so traumatizing and isolating and awful.

    Ethan is just…such a wonderful person. I’m so glad he’s there for Joyce, even after such an emotional conversation.

    • The Thing
      The Thing
      February 16, 2015 at 5:22 pm | #

      Have you sought therapy?

      • Dani Kelley
        Dani Kelley
        February 17, 2015 at 12:05 pm | #

        No. Largely because lack of insurance combined with extreme anxiety surrounding therapists. I was forced to go to Christian counselors in my teens, and while I’m glad my parents saw the value in therapy, the experiences were pretty awful.

  82. Spencer
    Spencer
    February 16, 2015 at 11:25 am | #

    This is going to well. Toedad’s already at the school, isn’t he?

  83. Jeremy
    Jeremy
    February 16, 2015 at 12:03 pm | #

    Now that she faced facts their friendship can continue honestly

  84. Bilal Kalyal
    Bilal Kalyal
    February 16, 2015 at 1:00 pm | #

    Oh poor Ethan, this all must be so damn confusing for him that he can’t help but just lend a hand.

  85. Tsuki
    Tsuki
    February 16, 2015 at 1:01 pm | #

    Of all the craziness, does anyone have a feeling that Becky’s “dad” has already found her and forcibly try to take her back?

  86. Bob
    Bob
    February 16, 2015 at 1:22 pm | #

    Decency. It isn’t just for non-Christians anymore. 🙂

  87. Jason
    Jason
    February 16, 2015 at 2:15 pm | #

    Does Ethan even know who Becky is??

    • No Name
      No Name
      February 16, 2015 at 2:33 pm | #

      No, but Joyce literally (literally literally) just said “I need to find Becky.” If Ethan’s smart enough to realize that Joyce still needs to “use” him, he’s smart enough to pick up on that.

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        February 16, 2015 at 2:44 pm | #

        Also, both Dorothy and Walky knew who Becky was before she finally showed up. It’s pretty likely that Joyce told Ethan about her best friend at some point.

        Of course, he doesn’t know anything about recent events, but he has enough context to figure out the general shape of things (“best friends in trouble, possible related to gay related freakout”)

        • Gigafreak
          Gigafreak
          February 16, 2015 at 4:03 pm | #

          http://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/06-strange-beerfellows/hands/
          Joyce has spoken to Becky in Ethan’s presence once before, though there is no guarantee that Becky’s name was spoken aloud in that conversation, nor that Ethan considered it noteworthy enough to remember. Ethan’s probably just reacting to Joyce’s “I need to find Becky” in today’s first panel.

  88. Joya
    Joya
    February 16, 2015 at 4:39 pm | #

    Is it bad that I hissed at the screen the minute I saw Ryan?

    • Johnny Z
      Johnny Z
      February 16, 2015 at 5:09 pm | #

      Well he did yell pretty meanly.

  89. lightsabermario
    lightsabermario
    February 16, 2015 at 5:15 pm | #

    Next comic is literally nothing but Ryans. Every cast member of Dumbing of Age with Ryan’s face, surrounding Joyce. You will be assimilated, Joyce. RESISTANCE IS FUTILE.

  90. Kraken
    Kraken
    February 16, 2015 at 5:57 pm | #

    The way Willis is depicting Joyce’s PTSD is incredibly effective and disturbing. It’s a really awe inspiring use of art to convey a feeling that words would have trouble capturing. This strip is even more effective than the last one, with the foreground Ryans flanking a much smaller Joyce.

    That said, I never want to see it again. I hope someone convinces Joyce to see a therapist so she can work her way through ths.

  91. Tenn
    Tenn
    February 16, 2015 at 6:56 pm | #

    The Ryan entering from the right in panel 2 is fricking scary. A dead, empty stare and some slight sadness — and we don’t see the wound, but we know it’s there, on the other cheek, waiting, gaping, bleeding…

    • DarkoNeko
      DarkoNeko
      February 16, 2015 at 8:02 pm | #

      It’s clearly a zombie attack.

  92. segnosaur
    segnosaur
    February 16, 2015 at 6:58 pm | #

    Didn’t see anyone mention it so far… but this comic did address one other issue…

    Remember in the previous comic (after Joyce pulled a “Harry and the Hendersons” and told Ethan to go) that Ethan had a strange look on his face that people thought might be anger. Fortunately in this comic that doesn’t seem to be the case.

  93. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    February 16, 2015 at 8:01 pm | #

    …He knoooows.

  94. ilvos01
    ilvos01
    February 16, 2015 at 8:54 pm | #

    WHAT COLOR IS JOYCE’S HAIR

    • David M Willis
      David M Willis
      February 16, 2015 at 10:15 pm | #

      #C2AE96

      • Crazy Dina
        Crazy Dina
        February 16, 2015 at 10:40 pm | #

        Huh. A fairly washed-out orange. http://www.hexcolortool.com/C2AE96#eab16c

      • ilvos01
        ilvos01
        February 17, 2015 at 4:39 pm | #

        What is that? Wheat? Flaccid blonde?

  95. completeinsanity
    completeinsanity
    February 16, 2015 at 10:00 pm | #

    I would be happy if you drew Ryan one more time, to see him in custody

  96. Space Penis
    Space Penis
    February 16, 2015 at 10:34 pm | #

    The two guys in the second and third panel are the same guy. I sense shenanigans are afoot.

  97. Evie
    Evie
    February 17, 2015 at 7:44 am | #

    This is why Ethan is and will always be my favourite. No questions asked. Friend needs him. Immediately calm and able to be there for her even though he’s got his own stuff to deal with. (Though it’s been a fault of his to put his own problems aside for someone else, so I hope he can work through this okay later.)

  98. Plume
    Plume
    February 24, 2015 at 3:00 am | #

    wait hold on… was scarface there who just walked by that guy from the party???

    • Plume
      Plume
      August 14, 2015 at 10:28 am | #

      *on a reread* Oooooooooohhhh I see what you did there now. Can’t believe I missed it the first time.

  99. MutantSentry
    MutantSentry
    March 19, 2015 at 12:27 pm | #

    In reference to the alt text… I’d be happy if that truck from the other universe would get Ryan in this one…

  100. MortartarSaws
    MortartarSaws
    October 18, 2015 at 11:30 am | #

    Let’s be honest, you won’t really be happy until you draw Ryan getting his comeuppance, preferably via another bat-beating and an excruciatingly public arrest.

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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Today in #9ChickweedLane I learned it's nice to see Walter Bubbletea, 80-year-old fiance to someone roughly 20, talk to someone his own age.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
"ESPECIALLY willa!" "dad, has it come to mind yet that if i was correct, actually, about belle being cuckoo for murderpuffs, that she was in fact trying to kill me, your human daughter, all this time" "sorry, still only really care about the fish"
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Dumbing of Age: "My eyes only" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
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My eyes only
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Jay Edidin @edidin.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
fuck Target's sad beige pride. You don't have to like rainbows to be loud and proud; AND you can support a currently-unemployed trans artist! (many more at link) www.teepublic.com/user/chekhov...
a black hoodie with hand-lettered white text reading,
a black tshirt with hand-lettered white text reading,
a red tshirt with hand-lettered black text reading,
a maroon tshirt with hand-lettered white text reading,
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John Leavitt @leavittalone.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Mammal solidarity “stealing and eating a treat with your dexterous little hands”
paulle.bsky.social's user avatarPaul Lê @paulle.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
I'm obsessed with this li'l hungry bub.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
*weird dean sounds*
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Got my pointy Galvatron slippers.
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Mark Jacob @markjacob.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Rolling Stone is one of the few news outlets that know how to write headlines.
rollingstone.com's user avatarRolling Stone @rollingstone.com ⋅ 2d
Report: Elon Used So Much Ketamine He Couldn’t Pee Right The New York Times reports that the billionaire experienced some negative effects from frequent drug use while stumping for Trump last year
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Elon Used So Much Ketamine He Couldn't Pee Right: Report
Elon Musk's frequent use of ketamine during the 2024 campaign caused him to experience bladder problems, according to The New York Times.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
everyone: remember to transform your ss86 scavenger so that the shovel arm hangs off his ass like a floppy butt-penis
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PAK @papaalphakilo.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Sam Reich doing a little dance on the set of
rajandelman.bsky.social's user avatarBlue sky nice guy @rajandelman.bsky.social ⋅ 12d
We need a liberal Jigsaw
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Ben Rosen @benrosen.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
i tell ya, my wife is bi. yeah, she bi and i pay!
maggiewestrum.bsky.social's user avatarMaggie Westrum @maggiewestrum.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
we need a rodney dangerfield of the left
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Kelly Turnbull @coelasquid.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Oh hey Hulu released the new King of the Hill intro I boarded
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King of the Hill Season 14 | Credit Sequence Reveal | Hulu
YouTube video by Hulu
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
thanks for the three bigfoot-esque images of cyberworld optimus prime, hasbro pr
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
"so now what?" "well handing her every knife in the house has worked out for us so far"
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Chris McFeely @chrismcfeely.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
CYBERWORLD trailer! www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTsf...
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Transformers: CYBERWORLD | OFFICIAL TEASER TRAILER | Transformers Official
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