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by David M Willis on January 25, 2012 at 12:01 am
  • 02 - Choosing My Religion
└ Tags: dorothy, dr pepper, joyce, monkey master, sierra

Discussion (256) ¬

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  1. NCP19
    NCP19
    January 25, 2012 at 12:01 am | #

    Joe would also like to put something behind you.

    • AckAckAck(Now with sugar powered speedster!)
      AckAckAck(Now with sugar powered speedster!)
      January 25, 2012 at 12:38 am | #

      While Mike….

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        January 25, 2012 at 12:45 am | #

        …will put something behind your mother for a nickel.

        • Zoey
          Zoey
          January 25, 2012 at 3:32 pm | #

          roflmao! I swear the fans make the comic even better than it all ready is!

  2. Hello, Mr. Anderson
    Hello, Mr. Anderson
    January 25, 2012 at 12:02 am | #

    Her logic is impeccable!

    • Darkflame
      Darkflame
      January 25, 2012 at 11:03 am | #

      Not really. God has Xray vision!

      • God
        God
        January 25, 2012 at 11:51 am | #

        Yes, yes. You cannot hide your bones from my x-ray vision! Mmmm~ that femur looks mighty fine.

        • Fauxlosopher
          Fauxlosopher
          January 25, 2012 at 1:06 pm | #

          That avatar. Not ironic at all.

      • Aragonius
        Aragonius
        January 25, 2012 at 3:11 pm | #

        Arguably God can see through your clothes anyways..

      • Blob Marley
        Blob Marley
        January 25, 2012 at 4:19 pm | #

        x-rays don’t register navels. God can never see your navel.

  3. Tom
    Tom
    January 25, 2012 at 12:02 am | #

    Internally, we all know Joyce is flipping out.

  4. Rognik
    Rognik
    January 25, 2012 at 12:02 am | #

    Because heaven knows the navel can’t be seen at other times of the day…

    • iSaidCandleja-
      iSaidCandleja-
      January 25, 2012 at 12:29 am | #

      I find this comment unreasonably amusing thanks to the double meaning.

      • Chester
        Chester
        January 25, 2012 at 12:31 am | #

        Seconded.

  5. Xailenrath Omniversal
    Xailenrath Omniversal
    January 25, 2012 at 12:02 am | #

    Wait… we put away childish things when we get old and joyless?
    why didn’t someone TELL me?!!

    • Wack'd
      Wack'd
      January 25, 2012 at 12:05 am | #

      “People never get more mature, they only get better at faking it.”

      • Tristan J
        Tristan J
        January 25, 2012 at 12:07 am | #

        Cue CS Lewis quote.

        • Thor
          Thor
          January 25, 2012 at 12:12 am | #

          “Perfect humility dispenses with modesty.”

          — C. S. Lewis

          • Izzy
            Izzy
            January 25, 2012 at 1:27 am | #

            “How many advantages can one person have? I’m a white man!”

            • Izzy
              Izzy
              January 25, 2012 at 1:28 am | #

              -Louis C. K.

        • Daibhid C
          Daibhid C
          January 25, 2012 at 8:27 am | #

          “When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.” -Lewis

          Also “When I became a man I put away childish things because. wow, then I could afford much *better* childish things!” -Sir Terry Pratchett

          I wonder if Dorothy even knows she’s paraphrasing the Bible here.

      • Rex Hondo
        Rex Hondo
        January 25, 2012 at 1:33 am | #

        “The more complex the mind, the greater the need for the simplicity of play.”

        -James T. Kirk

        • lawzlo
          lawzlo
          January 25, 2012 at 1:45 am | #

          “What does God need with a starship?”

          -James T. Kirk

          • Aizat
            Aizat
            January 25, 2012 at 2:19 am | #

            “Remember”

            -Spock

            • Rex Hondo
              Rex Hondo
              January 25, 2012 at 2:35 am | #

              “That green-blooded son of a bongo. It’s his revenge for all the arguments he lost.”

              -Leonard McCoy

              • Michelle J Caboose
                Michelle J Caboose
                January 25, 2012 at 7:41 am | #

                “Really, Doctor, you must learn to govern your passions. They will be your undoing.”
                — Spock

                • lordphulish
                  lordphulish
                  January 25, 2012 at 9:25 am | #

                  “Shut up, Wesley!”

                  -Everyone on ST:TNG

                • iggy_rock
                  iggy_rock
                  January 25, 2012 at 1:33 pm | #

                  It’s green.
                  — Scotty

                • BriGuy
                  BriGuy
                  January 25, 2012 at 6:05 pm | #

                  Also Data, to Scotty.
                  …Now I gotta go watch that episode.

                  Damn you!
                  (Not really)

                • Raiser
                  Raiser
                  January 25, 2012 at 6:35 pm | #

                  “Their shields are up.”
                  -Worf
                  “I sense… hostility.”
                  -Deanna Troi

                • SteveCharb
                  SteveCharb
                  January 25, 2012 at 10:36 pm | #

                  “I shall leave you as you left me… as you left her… alone for all eternity at the center of a dead planet. Buried alive… buried alive.”

                • SteveCharb
                  SteveCharb
                  January 25, 2012 at 10:37 pm | #

                  -KHAAAAAAAN!!!

          • Tucker
            Tucker
            January 25, 2012 at 2:22 am | #

            To escape the creepy factor:

            “My pain is constant and sharp and I do not hope for a better world for anyone; in fact, I want my pain to be inflicted on others.” -Patrick Bateman

            Feel like life’s going too good? Quote Bateman.

            • Aizat
              Aizat
              January 25, 2012 at 2:57 am | #

              “Back in high school, they used to call me Dr. Love”

              -Derrick Bateman

              • Plasma Mongoose
                Plasma Mongoose
                January 25, 2012 at 5:22 am | #

                The identity of the official whose alleged responsibility for this hypothetical oversight has been the subject of recent discussion is not shrouded in quite such impenetrable obscurity as certain previous disclosures may have led you to assume; but not to put too fine a point on it, the individual in question is, it may surprise you to learn, one whom your present interlocutor is in the habit of defining by means of the perpendicular pronoun.

                -Sir Humphrey-

                • NF
                  NF
                  January 25, 2012 at 9:18 am | #

                  “What?”

                  -Richard Nixon

                • Tucker
                  Tucker
                  January 25, 2012 at 12:04 pm | #

                  “…media perception creates a fake reality that becomes more meaningful than the whatever actually happened. Also, Lady Gaga.” -Chuck Klosterman

              • Wack'd
                Wack'd
                July 14, 2012 at 12:39 pm | #

                “The fact that you still call it ‘pop-pop’ tells me you’re not ready.” –Jason Bateman

            • Michelle J Caboose
              Michelle J Caboose
              January 25, 2012 at 7:48 am | #

              “Damn it Bones, you’re a doctor. You know that pain and guilt can’t be taken away with the wave of a magic wand. They’re the things we carry with us, the things that make us who we are. If we lose them, we lose ourselves. I don’t want my pain taken away! I need my pain!”

              — James T… Crap, I wasn’t going to make any more nerdy comments today. >_<

      • Animal
        Animal
        January 25, 2012 at 10:13 am | #

        As I approve of a youth that has something of the old man in him, so I am no less pleased with an old man that has something of the youth. He that follows this rule may be old in body, but can never be so in mind.

        – Marcus Tullius Cicero

        (Nerd THAT, children.)

    • mechaqua
      mechaqua
      January 25, 2012 at 12:10 am | #

      For gods sake Dorothy its okay to have some guilty pleasures, although i personally don’t think cartoons are really a guilty pleasure i suppose thats my point of view. But wait your favorite film is Persepolis which is an animated film.. wtf!!??

      • Linkara
        Linkara
        January 25, 2012 at 12:30 am | #

        An animated film about oppression and feminism in a country operating under Sharia law.

        • Aizat
          Aizat
          January 25, 2012 at 1:15 am | #

          I for one believe that if a Muslim country that operates under the Shariat law, it should not be oppressive and feministic. If that occurs, it is not the fault of the law, it’s both the execution of the law and the culture of said country.

        • mechaqua
          mechaqua
          January 25, 2012 at 1:21 am | #

          Yes and its a very good film with a serious tone (and probably should have won the 2007 academy award.) and a fictional cartoon based on a monkey master (i cannot recall the name of the show) is most likely not in the same league with this film. I was more shocked that Dorothy was willing to reject the monkey master animated show yet her favorite film is animated clearly she enjoys animation why be ashamed of a show she enjoyed and looking at previous strips seems to still enjoy perhaps, this show is what made her enjoy Persepolis in the first place i guess she is associating the theme of the monkey master show with childhood but it clearly had an impact on her, if something gives you joy and is harmless why reject it or hide it. the best comparison i can make is two films i like Super troopers and A Serious Man Super Troopers is a movie that relies on crude humor and immature jokes well A Serious Man is Dark Comedy that you have to think in order to get the Jokes well i love A Serious Man far more then Super Troopers I am not going to reject the film and put it behind me just because its Crude and Immature no matter what people think and Dorothy seems to be rejecting Monkey Master based on that it is immature and that she can’t be successful if she has what she views as immature impulses. But I am probably wrong. but The most important thing about this comic today is Dr. Pepper which is awesome.

          • Wack'd
            Wack'd
            January 25, 2012 at 9:06 am | #

            It has nothing to do with being animated. Monkey Master is geared towards children and is therefore immature and to be put aside. Persepolis is geared towards adults and is therefore fine.

            • mechaqua
              mechaqua
              January 25, 2012 at 5:41 pm | #

              Ok I admit my first post was a mistake it made it sound like I regard a childrens cartoon equivelent to a movie that was clearly made for adult audiencr . But what actualy lrkd me about Dorothy’s statement is that that the she should no longer like a childrens cartoon beacuse its for children. my orginal statement was just a fail . However my last statement I did identify that Dorothy was judging the show based on theme also this being writt touch screen so theres going to be mistakes in spelling and punctuation sorry for my orginal statement and the punctuation errors and paragraph mistakes I suck at lifea nd clearly am an idiot please forgive me.

              • mechaqua
                mechaqua
                January 25, 2012 at 6:01 pm | #

                Also I am actually being sincere about my apology.

          • David
            David M Willis
            January 25, 2012 at 9:07 am | #

            May I recommend punctuation.

            • Animal
              Animal
              January 25, 2012 at 10:16 am | #

              And the occasional paragraph break.

              • Tucker
                Tucker
                January 25, 2012 at 12:05 pm | #

                tl;dr

            • Roborat
              Roborat
              January 25, 2012 at 3:16 pm | #

              Oh, I thought he/she had started a “longest sentence” competition.

    • Bekah
      Bekah
      January 25, 2012 at 12:15 am | #

      Only if you include the joyless part. I’m twenty-frakking-three and I still play with my lego.

      • Thor
        Thor
        January 25, 2012 at 12:21 am | #

        If you think that’s fun, imagine what it would be like if you had a second one.

        • Bekah
          Bekah
          January 25, 2012 at 12:48 am | #

          Lego is a brand name. You wouldn’t say “My adobes photoshops” would you?

          • David
            David M Willis
            January 25, 2012 at 12:54 am | #

            Strictly speaking, you play with your LEGO brand construction bricks.

            • Tucker
              Tucker
              January 25, 2012 at 1:52 am | #

              I have a LEGO BRAND CONSTRUCTION BRICK prop airplane on the top of my monitor! How is it sitting there, you ask? CRT goodness.

              • ADHadh
                ADHadh
                January 25, 2012 at 3:13 pm | #

                And I have a LEGO BRAND MINIATURE FIGURINE standing below mine. It’s a surfer lady.

                • Icalasari
                  Icalasari
                  January 26, 2012 at 12:02 am | #

                  And when I was a little kid in kindergarten, I made a very crude LEGO BRAND CONSTRUCTION BRICK penis and LEGO BRAND CONSTRUCTION BRICK vagina

                • Kryss LaBryn
                  Kryss LaBryn
                  January 26, 2012 at 11:38 am | #

                  I have a LEGO BRAND Spybotics robot on mine. 🙂 Those things are AWESOME!!

            • Bekah
              Bekah
              January 25, 2012 at 3:01 am | #

              Yes… well… there’s that.

            • Ethan
              Ethan
              January 25, 2012 at 11:52 am | #

              http://www.fbtb.net/2012/01/25/studs-comic-4/studs4finalsmall/

          • begbert2
            begbert2
            January 25, 2012 at 10:32 am | #

            Of course not – “my adobes photoshops” is a grotesque bastardization of standard pluralization and practically a crime against nature.

        • Jarnor
          Jarnor
          January 25, 2012 at 4:29 am | #

          Isn’t the plural of that “Legolas”?

          • fellixe
            fellixe
            January 25, 2012 at 9:59 am | #

            I don’t imagine you’ll find many women or gay men for that matter who’ll complain they’re too old to play with Legolas.

            • Raiser
              Raiser
              January 25, 2012 at 6:37 pm | #

              Heck, I’m straight, and I like to toss all my Legolas into a pile.

              They get uppity when I start trying to peg them together though…

              • Kryss LaBryn
                Kryss LaBryn
                January 26, 2012 at 11:39 am | #

                Well, pegging is a sensitive thing for some guys…

      • Aizat
        Aizat
        January 25, 2012 at 12:24 am | #

        Hey, I’m 20 and still play with my old toys and watch cartoons and I’m proud of it, no matter what all people say about it.

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          January 25, 2012 at 12:37 am | #

          Cartoons don’t automatically equal kids anymore anymore than live-action shows automatically equaling with adult.

          • Aizat
            Aizat
            January 25, 2012 at 1:18 am | #

            Problem is most people in Malaysia still attribute cartoons with children. For them, “adults” watch boring, cliche trite that is our local drama or foreign drama, most of which being Indonesian drama which is pretty much the “torture our stupid main character our and got away with it almost Scott free hour”.

          • begbert2
            begbert2
            January 25, 2012 at 3:50 pm | #

            Oh come on, anime is always child-appropriate!

            • Plasma Mongoose
              Plasma Mongoose
              January 25, 2012 at 4:18 pm | #

              So that’s why I used to find anime like Akira, The Legend Of The Overfiend, Wicked City and Golgo 13 in the kids section of the video shops.

              Because, nothing entertains kids quite like tentacle rape, bodies turning into ‘chunky salsa and spider women with toothy vaginas. 😀

              • a99steaksauce
                a99steaksauce
                January 25, 2012 at 8:36 pm | #

                lol

        • Tucker
          Tucker
          January 25, 2012 at 1:53 am | #

          You know, I wanted to weigh in here and say something about graduating into big boys toys… But then I realized that I played video games as a kid, and messed around with stereos. I guess I do the same thing now, just the video games are bigger and the speakers are more interesting XD

          • Rex Hondo
            Rex Hondo
            January 25, 2012 at 2:36 am | #

            Big boys’ toys are NOT to be confused with big girls’ toys, which were covered in last friday’s strip and comments.

            • Fauxlosopher
              Fauxlosopher
              January 25, 2012 at 1:13 pm | #

              What about big boytoys?

              • Rex Hondo
                Rex Hondo
                January 26, 2012 at 12:43 am | #

                Like Joe?

      • Keulan
        Keulan
        January 25, 2012 at 3:20 pm | #

        I’m 23, I’m male, and I watch My Little Pony.

        • Anon
          Anon
          January 25, 2012 at 10:23 pm | #

          I WOULD say something about your avatar and statement matching, but I must confess that I watch it too! Anyone who doesn’t is missing out on life!

          …well, thats what i tell myself anyways..

          • SteveCharb
            SteveCharb
            January 25, 2012 at 10:49 pm | #

            bronieeeees, wassup

    • Jetstream
      Jetstream
      January 25, 2012 at 1:00 am | #

      You put away childish things, but you unpack most of them when you get where you’re going.

      Mac Hall said so 😉

      http://www.machall.com/

  6. Jen Aside
    Jen Aside
    January 25, 2012 at 12:02 am | #

    As long as it’s not Sierra Mist!

    • Ragnal
      Ragnal
      January 25, 2012 at 12:08 am | #

      Ow…-.- That HURT my SOUL!

  7. Mkvenner
    Mkvenner
    January 25, 2012 at 12:03 am | #

    He can see it no matter what.

    • begbert2
      begbert2
      January 25, 2012 at 3:43 pm | #

      He also sees every other part of you too, regardless of what you try to do to cover up.

      …that pervert!

  8. Confuzor
    Confuzor
    January 25, 2012 at 12:03 am | #

    One of Dr. Pepper’s many selling points!

    • Tenn
      Tenn
      January 25, 2012 at 10:14 am | #

      I only know of one other selling point: it’s an excellent emetic! Sure, it’s a bit unpleasant for a few seconds, but the vomit washes away most of the taste.

    • heh
      heh
      January 25, 2012 at 8:27 pm | #

      Dr. Pepper: Now 20% more godproof!

  9. mechaqua
    mechaqua
    January 25, 2012 at 12:04 am | #

    Is there anything Dr. Pepper can’t fix?

    “Mr. Pibb is a poor imitation of Dr. Pepper. Dude didn’t even get his degree.’
    Mitch Hedberg

    • Fauxlosopher
      Fauxlosopher
      January 25, 2012 at 1:14 pm | #

      I less than three Mitch. RIP dude.

  10. TemplarKnight
    TemplarKnight
    January 25, 2012 at 12:04 am | #

    . . .That Dr Pepper is totally freaking Joyce out!

    • Trae Dorn
      Trae Dorn
      January 25, 2012 at 12:08 am | #

      That’s just because one of those 23 flavors is… SATAN!

      • mechaqua
        mechaqua
        January 25, 2012 at 12:10 am | #

        Satan is delicious.

  11. Wonder Wig
    Wonder Wig
    January 25, 2012 at 12:04 am | #

    I know they’ve never met but… Sal x Sierra babies would be HOT.

  12. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    January 25, 2012 at 12:05 am | #

    Convenient censorship doesn’t work like that IRL Sierra, just to let you know.

    • begbert2
      begbert2
      January 25, 2012 at 3:49 pm | #

      It does if she pressed the bottle up against her belly.

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        January 25, 2012 at 4:21 pm | #

        So she plans on holding it there for the next few hours?

  13. Khantalas
    Khantalas
    January 25, 2012 at 12:05 am | #

    I like the cut of Sierra’s jib.

    Also, I am betting 10 credits that Dorothy won’t be able to put all that behind her.

  14. Twisted Two-face
    Twisted Two-face
    January 25, 2012 at 12:05 am | #

    I’m I the only one not sure what Sierra’s race is….? Not that it matters…..it’s just….she’s grey…..

    • Twisted Two-face
      Twisted Two-face
      January 25, 2012 at 12:06 am | #

      *am. Silly autocorrect

    • a99steaksauce
      a99steaksauce
      January 25, 2012 at 12:09 am | #

      I highly doubt that grey is a good description for the color of her skin. In fact, I would say it is most certainly not grey.

      • LauraS
        LauraS
        January 25, 2012 at 12:10 am | #

        But it is. What color does that look like to you?

        • Aizat
          Aizat
          January 25, 2012 at 12:15 am | #

          She looks like dark olive to me.

        • a99steaksauce
          a99steaksauce
          January 25, 2012 at 12:15 am | #

          Brown if anything, definitly brown.

          • a99steaksauce
            a99steaksauce
            January 25, 2012 at 12:17 am | #

            That tv or computer screen in the background is more along the lines of grey, although slightly blueish i think. Just for a reference.

            • Thor
              Thor
              January 25, 2012 at 12:33 am | #

              According to Photoshop, Sierra’s main skin tone is #8c8569, which is a mid-tone yellow-cast brown. The computer monitor screen behind here is #a1a1ab, which is 66% of the way from white to black, with a slight blue cast.

              If these colors don’t look right to you, then you need to adjust the settings on your monitor. Your eyes can lie to you, but the RGB numbers won’t.

              • a99steaksauce
                a99steaksauce
                January 25, 2012 at 1:08 am | #

                I know her skin color is not a complete brown, Its a light brown but definitly cant be said is a light brown, so I just settled for saying brown. And by your description and my no understanding of what you just said, I think said that the screen was gray with some blue?

                • Tucker
                  Tucker
                  January 25, 2012 at 2:07 am | #

                  For people who are not familiar with colour temperatures, cinema standard is 6500k (typically “warm”) with a steady 2.2 gamma. There’s a launch-point for your inquisition.

                  I know I always aim for d65 (industry shorthand for the previous) on my displays. It seems to yield the best results ongoing – especially with cinema, as that is an ISF specification.

                  What is your calibration target, Willis?

                • David
                  David M Willis
                  January 25, 2012 at 9:09 am | #

                  My calibration target is “my monitor turns on successfully.”

                • Tucker
                  Tucker
                  January 25, 2012 at 12:06 pm | #

                  Cheeky.

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          January 25, 2012 at 12:18 am | #

          If I was to guess her nationality, I would choose Sudanese as we have a number of Sudanese in I seen in Adelaide have a charcoalish skintone.

          • Jerrery
            Jerrery
            January 25, 2012 at 12:44 am | #

            What kinda weird brown charcoal you got where you come from? Kingsford’s black.

            • Plasma Mongoose
              Plasma Mongoose
              January 25, 2012 at 12:48 am | #

              Hence the term charcolISH, I was going to say licorice but that’s more of a bluish black.

        • Rex Hondo
          Rex Hondo
          January 25, 2012 at 1:14 am | #

          Like delicious, delicious caramel…

      • lordphulish
        lordphulish
        January 25, 2012 at 9:29 am | #

        Girls not grey
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Yzu-4kJg6g

        • Tucker
          Tucker
          January 25, 2012 at 12:20 pm | #

          I see what you did there.

    • mechaqua
      mechaqua
      January 25, 2012 at 12:20 am | #

      is Elf an option cause i am gonna go with Elf

    • Jetstream
      Jetstream
      January 25, 2012 at 1:03 am | #

      I’m thinking Pacific islander of some stripe or another.

      • Rex Hondo
        Rex Hondo
        January 25, 2012 at 1:15 am | #

        Polynesian? Like the yummy yummy sauce at Chik-Fil-A?

        • Jetstream
          Jetstream
          January 26, 2012 at 12:40 am | #

          I’m resisting a lewd joke here, but only because I’m tired and I can’t think of one right now.

  15. Henry
    Henry
    January 25, 2012 at 12:05 am | #

    Looks like Sierra likes to http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BareYourMidriff

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      January 25, 2012 at 12:13 am | #

      That’s not how you trope, THIS IS HOW YOU TROPE! Young Grasshopper!

      • Aizat
        Aizat
        January 25, 2012 at 12:16 am | #

        Damn it, you two. I’ve just left TV Tropes 2 hours ago.

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          January 25, 2012 at 12:19 am | #

          Think of it as building up your Trope resistance, soon you will be able to spend as little as a few minutes in TVTropes at any one time like I can.

          • a99steaksauce
            a99steaksauce
            January 25, 2012 at 12:26 am | #

            Probably cus he’ll have seen them all by then.

            • Raiser
              Raiser
              January 25, 2012 at 6:40 pm | #

              That’s kinda the long and short of it, yes.

      • Henry
        Henry
        January 25, 2012 at 1:26 am | #

        How does I trope?

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          January 25, 2012 at 1:35 am | #

          [href=”http://www.hereisanexample.com”]EXAMPLE[/a]

          Remember to replace [ with <

          • Plasma Mongoose
            Plasma Mongoose
            January 25, 2012 at 5:31 am | #

            [href=”http://website.com”]EXAMPLE[/a]

            • Kryss LaBryn
              Kryss LaBryn
              January 26, 2012 at 11:56 am | #

              [a href=”http://website.com”]EXAMPLE[/a]

              You need that leading “a” in there, I think.

  16. Dave Van Domelen
    Dave Van Domelen
    January 25, 2012 at 12:07 am | #

    Dr Pepper is God-proof? This explains much.

    • mechaqua
      mechaqua
      January 25, 2012 at 12:11 am | #

      its the perfect agnostic drink not quite cola not quite root beer its something else

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        January 25, 2012 at 12:20 am | #

        So which one is God, cola or root beer?

        • Chester
          Chester
          January 25, 2012 at 12:33 am | #

          If you have to ask, I think you’re hellbound either way.

          • Plasma Mongoose
            Plasma Mongoose
            January 25, 2012 at 12:40 am | #

            I am only Hell-bound if it turns out that, that not only God exists but that many Christan denominations turn out to be correct when it comes to Final Judgement.

            • Tucker
              Tucker
              January 25, 2012 at 2:02 am | #

              This begs a question: If only a couple-hundred thousand Jehovah’s witnesses are going to be saved on judgement day, why do they keep trying to recruit more people? It seems to be mathematically flawed. Not very pragmatic, indeed…

              • Plasma Mongoose
                Plasma Mongoose
                January 25, 2012 at 5:34 am | #

                If that was litrally true, I am pretty sure that the quota would have been met hundreds of years ago, maybe thousands.

                But then again, I am no expert on LDS theology.

                • Michelle J Caboose
                  Michelle J Caboose
                  January 25, 2012 at 7:58 am | #

                  Actually, LDS is the Mormons. Different group.

                • begbert2
                  begbert2
                  January 25, 2012 at 10:37 am | #

                  Yeah, the Mormons don’t assume a limit, so the “wait, why are you recruiting people again?” pretty much applies only to the JWs.

                • Tucker
                  Tucker
                  January 25, 2012 at 12:09 pm | #

                  Silly willy!

                • Plasma Mongoose
                  Plasma Mongoose
                  January 25, 2012 at 4:25 pm | #

                  Opps I get those two mixed up sometimes.

              • Clouded
                Clouded
                January 25, 2012 at 8:20 pm | #

                Let me help you out here. Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that only a few will go to heaven and that the rest will live here on earth in peace. Unlike other religions they do not believe that the earth will be destroyed just the bad people who live on it. That is why they continue to “recruit”.

                • Plasma Mongoose
                  Plasma Mongoose
                  January 25, 2012 at 10:07 pm | #

                  Thanks, that explains a lot. So the JW believe that only the ‘best of the best’ will get to live in Heaven, while everyone else stays on Earth.

                • Tucker
                  Tucker
                  January 26, 2012 at 4:01 am | #

                  Still seems like a bad idea. If you want your best chances of being one of the few, then a smaller pool makes for better bets.

                • Kryss LaBryn
                  Kryss LaBryn
                  January 26, 2012 at 11:59 am | #

                  @ Tucker: According to the Jehovah’s Witness I worked with, recruiting more people makes you awesomer in God’s eyes and moves you higher up the list. It’s kind of like a pyramid scheme like that. (My phrasing of what he was explaining, not his).

        • Leorale
          Leorale
          January 25, 2012 at 12:42 am | #

          Root bear goes with ice cream, Coca Cola goes with rum. I think we’ve got a pretty even heaven/hell split here.

          • Rex Hondo
            Rex Hondo
            January 25, 2012 at 1:16 am | #

            Dr Pepper also goes nicely with ice cream, as does Guinness… mmmm…

          • fellixe
            fellixe
            January 25, 2012 at 10:12 am | #

            And Jim Beam goes well with Welch’s Grape Soda for some reason.

            • Tucker
              Tucker
              January 25, 2012 at 12:09 pm | #

              And Canadian Club goes good in my mouth… with more Canadian Club.

      • Michelle J Caboose
        Michelle J Caboose
        January 25, 2012 at 7:57 am | #

        Right. Everything is explained here.

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          January 25, 2012 at 4:27 pm | #

          For whatever reason, I cannot watch it here in Australia.

    • Thor
      Thor
      January 25, 2012 at 12:34 am | #

      Can God make a soda so opaque that even He can’t leer through it?

      • Kernanator
        Kernanator
        January 25, 2012 at 2:18 am | #

        Answer: Trick question! Everyone knows soda comes straight from Hell!

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          January 25, 2012 at 5:35 am | #

          So God didn’t create Hell?

      • captainswift
        captainswift
        January 25, 2012 at 11:20 am | #

        Yes, but he can then see through it anyway. Do not doubt God’s ability to both see and not see through a substance.

        • Plasma Mongoose
          Plasma Mongoose
          January 25, 2012 at 4:28 pm | #

          God is the only being who CAN UNSEE things.

    • Noel Schornhorst
      Noel Schornhorst
      January 25, 2012 at 8:13 am | #

      His one weakness!!!

  17. SlenderTroll
    SlenderTroll
    January 25, 2012 at 12:07 am | #

    So is Joyce going mad in that last panel, or just passing gas?

    • begbert2
      begbert2
      January 25, 2012 at 10:47 am | #

      More like straining to sound polite and approving when she’s internally horrified.

  18. Ragnal
    Ragnal
    January 25, 2012 at 12:08 am | #

    What did Dr. Pepper ever do to you, Joyce? WHAT DID HE EVER DO TO NERVE YOU?!

    Seriously, love Dr. Pepper. LOVE IT JOYCE.

    • Michelle J Caboose
      Michelle J Caboose
      January 25, 2012 at 7:59 am | #

      Eh. I don’t blame her. I find the stuff nauseating, myself. And Sierra’s navel less so.

      • fellixe
        fellixe
        January 25, 2012 at 10:15 am | #

        Dr. Pepper has awesome in it! But you are still correct, Sierra’s navel is better.

  19. Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
    Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
    January 25, 2012 at 12:09 am | #

    Okay, so churches normally no longer judge what people come in and wear, but I think they’d have a little bit of a problem. They wouldn’t kick her out, just kindly approach her on the matter.

    • Schroedingers Spy
      Schroedingers Spy
      January 25, 2012 at 1:07 am | #

      Which is still even a bit silly. Shes wearing clothes and willing to go see and practise said beliefs in this day and age they should be happy enough for just that

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        January 25, 2012 at 4:30 pm | #

        Many churches do have an unoffical dress code, something on the lines of no shoes, no shirt, no service.

        • fellixe
          fellixe
          January 25, 2012 at 9:14 pm | #

          No service! HA! Nicely done!

        • Kryss LaBryn
          Kryss LaBryn
          January 26, 2012 at 12:01 pm | #

          Pants: Optional. XD

    • Jackson
      Jackson
      January 25, 2012 at 7:00 am | #

      Depends on the church.

  20. LauraS
    LauraS
    January 25, 2012 at 12:09 am | #

    God doesn’t give a crap what you wear. The little old ladies at church, on the other hand…

    • a99steaksauce
      a99steaksauce
      January 25, 2012 at 12:12 am | #

      I get the feeling sometimes that old highly devout religious women are religious so they have something to yell at people for about. Or rather as an excuse to.

      • Noel Schornhorst
        Noel Schornhorst
        January 25, 2012 at 8:15 am | #

        Not just the women…

        Some people need to remember the Pharisees and, y’know, not act like them…

    • tbf
      tbf
      January 25, 2012 at 12:32 am | #

      Jesus didn’t wear pants. Why should I?

      • LauraS
        LauraS
        January 25, 2012 at 12:38 am | #

        Win.

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        January 25, 2012 at 12:42 am | #

        Did pants even exist back in Jesus’s time?

        • Rex Hondo
          Rex Hondo
          January 25, 2012 at 1:21 am | #

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trousers

      • Kernanator
        Kernanator
        January 25, 2012 at 2:28 am | #

        You, sir or ma’am, are now a saint to me. That’s going to be what I say when I go to church in pajamas.

        • ryan
          ryan
          January 25, 2012 at 9:37 am | #

          please be a little more considerate. at least wear pajama jeans.

    • Kernanator
      Kernanator
      January 25, 2012 at 2:23 am | #

      You know, sometimes, I feel like going to church in a T-shirt, pajama pants, and slippers, with messy hair, while squinting/glaring to complete the image that I just got out of bed. I’ll be grumpy on the outside, but smirking on the inside.

      Then I remember that part of the reason I live on campus now instead of at home like I used to is so I can sleep as long as I want on Sunday morning.

    • HiEv
      HiEv
      January 25, 2012 at 5:17 am | #

      It always amuses me when people speak for God, and in doing so, directly contradict the Bible.

      Apparently God cares a lot about what you wear when you pray or worship, especially what you do or do not wear on your head (see 1 Corinthians 11:2-16).

      Heck, you should see how specific the commandments got about the dress code around the Ark of the Covenant. It even specifies the kind of cloth for your underwear. (Exodus 39, if you’re curious.)

      But hey, I’m just an atheist who actually reads the Bible. What do I know?

      • DagonXIII
        DagonXIII
        January 25, 2012 at 8:13 am | #

        Well, we kinda just ignore those verses. Its a wonderful bit of hypocrisy; Something about outdated cultural norms. Doesn’t apply anywhere else but to how to dress in church.

        • Tucker
          Tucker
          January 25, 2012 at 12:19 pm | #

          But gay marriage is serious business, guys. We can’t ignore those verses in light of outdated cultural norms. Not even for legal marriage not performed within a church, but under a JP.

          • HiEv
            HiEv
            January 26, 2012 at 3:44 pm | #

            And some of those anti-gay paragraphs are just one chapter away from the commandment about not wearing clothing woven of two kinds of material and getting tattoos (Leviticus 20:13, 19:19, and 19:28, respectively). Funny how only the ones they don’t personally like are the ones that are “serious business” to them, and the rest are “no big deal”.

            The way that some treat those passages so differently is part of the hypocritical part of Christianity that I just don’t understand, that is, if you really believe those are all commandments from your God.

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        January 25, 2012 at 4:35 pm | #

        In other words, men: short hair and no headgear, women: long hair and some kind of head covering.

        I can only assume that Jesus as depicted in many paintings is not classified as too long for some reason.

        • HiEv
          HiEv
          January 26, 2012 at 3:47 pm | #

          Considering that they usually depict him as white, and I mean Caucasian white, it really isn’t hard to believe that they got the hair wrong too.

  21. Jabberwocky
    Jabberwocky
    January 25, 2012 at 12:10 am | #

    Evidently, if God were Superman, overrated soft drinks would be his lead.

    • a99steaksauce
      a99steaksauce
      January 25, 2012 at 12:14 am | #

      Silly, superman can eat lead for breakfast. Although he would probably have bad indigestion afterwords or diarrhea.

      • Jabberwocky
        Jabberwocky
        January 25, 2012 at 12:15 am | #

        Yeah, but he can’t see *through* lead.

        • a99steaksauce
          a99steaksauce
          January 25, 2012 at 12:18 am | #

          Damn, blast you and your comic logic.

  22. Aizat
    Aizat
    January 25, 2012 at 12:12 am | #

    You know Dorothy, you are never too old for the things you cherished the most.

    • mechaqua
      mechaqua
      January 25, 2012 at 12:16 am | #

      Like the cool refreshing taste of Dr. Pepper…. oh and nostalgic cartoons t, there pretty awesome as well now watching nostalgic Cartoons and drinking Dr. Pepper, that’s just a good time waiting to happen

      • Michelle J Caboose
        Michelle J Caboose
        January 25, 2012 at 10:26 am | #

        It sure is. Except for the Dr. Pepper part.

        Cherry Pepsi and a box of Count Chocula, however…

  23. Janette
    Janette
    January 25, 2012 at 12:17 am | #

    Finally, someone with my take on church.

    • iSaidCandleja-
      iSaidCandleja-
      January 25, 2012 at 12:38 am | #

      Exactly, most chuch-going freshmen I knew had a similar outlook. I mean aside from the attire being more suited for Saturday night than Sunday morning. Perhaps Sierra decided not to go to bed before going to confession.

  24. MarcinMN
    MarcinMN
    January 25, 2012 at 12:28 am | #

    I wonder if Sierra’s hair has an impact on her depth perception. =P

    • Plasma Mongoose
      Plasma Mongoose
      January 25, 2012 at 12:43 am | #

      Why would a 2D character have depth perception? 😛

      • fellixe
        fellixe
        January 25, 2012 at 10:21 am | #

        *Zzzzzzt!* Dammitss! Now U make brreakin mind mine.

        • Tucker
          Tucker
          January 25, 2012 at 12:26 pm | #

          Only on account of villainy.

  25. OhHayMike
    OhHayMike
    January 25, 2012 at 12:34 am | #

    Seriously! What’s going on with her collarbone???

  26. AckAckAck(Now with sugar powered speedster!)
    AckAckAck(Now with sugar powered speedster!)
    January 25, 2012 at 12:35 am | #

    Loopholes!

    I don’t know why but I think the word “loophole” sounds dirty to me…

  27. Robert
    Robert
    January 25, 2012 at 12:37 am | #

    What a terribe waste of a dr. pepper!

  28. Thor
    Thor
    January 25, 2012 at 12:37 am | #

    So when will we hear the story of how Sierra lost an eye?

    • iSaidCandleja-
      iSaidCandleja-
      January 25, 2012 at 1:07 am | #

      It was a dark and misty night…

    • Aizat
      Aizat
      January 25, 2012 at 2:16 am | #

      Do you know how I lost my eye?

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        January 25, 2012 at 4:37 pm | #

        Are we talking glass eye here?

    • Kryss LaBryn
      Kryss LaBryn
      January 26, 2012 at 12:32 pm | #

      She traded it in exchange for wisdom granted by a drink of water from Mimir’s well.

      That’s how she knows God can’t see through Dr. Pepper.

  29. Vabolo
    Vabolo
    January 25, 2012 at 12:38 am | #

    I’ve heard of product placement before, but this is ridiculous!

    • David
      David M Willis
      January 25, 2012 at 12:55 am | #

      booooooooooooooooooooo

      • begbert2
        begbert2
        January 25, 2012 at 10:54 am | #

        You obviously should have said, “with one non-specific opaque soft drink” instead. It would have been much more natural-sounding too.

    • Jason
      Jason
      January 25, 2012 at 1:08 am | #

      At least it wasn’t Sierra Mist….

      • Tucker
        Tucker
        January 25, 2012 at 1:55 am | #

        I’m almost thinking that might have been more glorious. She’d be able to make all kinds of bad puns regarding her mist!

  30. Davecom3
    Davecom3
    January 25, 2012 at 1:01 am | #

    And here I thought that God had a problem with us hiding ourselves away from his sight. Not that I necessarily argue, therefore, that all of us should go around nude, though. Can get rather chilly if you do that too often.

    • fellixe
      fellixe
      January 25, 2012 at 10:23 am | #

      And come cold and flu season it can be really hard on the furniture.

  31. Sporkaganza
    Sporkaganza
    January 25, 2012 at 1:08 am | #

    I like Sierra already. I seem to recall her having no characterization in IW! at all so it’s nice to actually get some here.

    • Tucker
      Tucker
      January 25, 2012 at 1:59 am | #

      I know I saw her, but I can’t remember for the life of me in what strip.

      Which of the 200,000 1-bit coloured characters was she?

      Before anybody starts, that’s not a race comment – it’s just that when people don’t have actual physical features as detailed as real life, you start to have to identify them by the colour of their clothes and such XD

  32. DT
    DT
    January 25, 2012 at 1:23 am | #

    Dr Pepper. Is there anything it can’t do? 😀

  33. Azumango
    Azumango
    January 25, 2012 at 1:25 am | #

    TACTICAL (Dr.) PEPPER

  34. Henry
    Henry
    January 25, 2012 at 1:26 am | #

    JoycexNavel OTP!

  35. Rex Hondo
    Rex Hondo
    January 25, 2012 at 1:35 am | #

    Apropos of nothing, but this comment section has been a LOT more fun than the Shortpacked! comment section over the last few days… 😛

    • Tucker
      Tucker
      January 25, 2012 at 1:57 am | #

      Here here.

    • ADHadh
      ADHadh
      January 25, 2012 at 4:17 am | #

      And then Willis will troll us all by throwing Malaya in here.
      And pairing her with Sal or Billie.

      • Tucker
        Tucker
        January 25, 2012 at 12:08 pm | #

        Perhaps the shift could dispel some of the murderous rages. They are getting… tedious.

  36. Kernanator
    Kernanator
    January 25, 2012 at 2:26 am | #

    It looks like she’s using…

    Pepper Spray.

  37. Romanticide
    Romanticide
    January 25, 2012 at 2:31 am | #

    I think Sierra has just become my favorite character 😀

    • Rex Hondo
      Rex Hondo
      January 25, 2012 at 4:57 am | #

      I don’t know that I’d call her my favorite, but it certainly is a breath of fresh air after a Malaya-centric week in the other comic to have a new character introduced who is, y’know, friendly.

  38. Markus
    Markus
    January 25, 2012 at 3:27 am | #

    Reminds me of an expletive used by a character in a (Jerry Pournelle?) SF Novel:
    “God’s Navel!”
    I like this for some twisted reason.

    • Markus
      Markus
      January 25, 2012 at 3:31 am | #

      Huh? I think that’s the second time in maybe 5 comments total that I’ve got the Marcie gravatar. Do these thing gravitate towards similar Nicks?

      • ryan
        ryan
        January 25, 2012 at 9:43 am | #

        unless you upload your own, the gravatar is randomly assigned. you will keep the same randomly assigned gravatar until willis adds new ones. when that happens, gravatars are randomly assigned again.

    • Hannover Fist
      Hannover Fist
      January 25, 2012 at 10:11 am | #

      The Mote In God’s Eye (one of my all-time favorite books by the way) was a collaboration between Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle.

  39. Ed
    Ed
    January 25, 2012 at 3:34 am | #

    Sierra is really cool and i hope we get more of her.

  40. ADHadh
    ADHadh
    January 25, 2012 at 4:18 am | #

    What is it with dark skinned ladies in Willis’ comics? They’re nearly all fun characters I’d love to know IRL. Even Malaya.

    • begbert2
      begbert2
      January 25, 2012 at 10:46 am | #

      And yet they’re all drastically different from one another. Perhaps it’s just that he makes fun female characters in general? He seems to save “comically annoying/crazy” for male characters (Faz, Joe, Galasso, Mike), possibly because they can be more readily ‘punished’ with slapstick violence. Or whatever.

      • ADHadh
        ADHadh
        January 25, 2012 at 3:11 pm | #

        Yeah, they’re all pretty good, but there something about the dark skinned ones that appeals to me. And I’m pretty sure it’s not their skin colour.

  41. LiC
    LiC
    January 25, 2012 at 4:32 am | #

    Cause everyone knows how much God hates to see navels.

    • begbert2
      begbert2
      January 25, 2012 at 3:36 pm | #

      There are those that believe that God created Adam and Eve without navels, even though there obviously was nothing to stop him from including them. Working off that assumption, one could deduce that navels are in fact a reproduction defect (like molding seams are), and that God could indeed be offended by their presence – that he excluded them from his original design is telling.

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        January 25, 2012 at 10:14 pm | #

        The reason they believe Adam and Eve had no navels is because belly-buttons are the remnants of the umbilical cord and as Adam and Eve were not born from a womb but created out of mud, thus no belly-buttons.

  42. lawzlo
    lawzlo
    January 25, 2012 at 4:37 am | #

    Sierra, cover that navel up with a fig leaf, like Eve did in the…

    Wait…

    Never mind, she didn’t have one.

    Anyhow, they’re offensive to God.

  43. Zababcd
    Zababcd
    January 25, 2012 at 5:08 am | #

    Dorothy agrees to go to church with Joyce, and already she’s slowly morphing into a nun – see clothing colour scheme.

  44. Gordon Blvd
    Gordon Blvd
    January 25, 2012 at 6:30 am | #

    I’m abosolutely shocked that none of y’all are concerned with the FAR MORE stunning implication that Dr Pepper contains an ingredient that can knowingly blind the eyes of God! 😉

    • DagonXIII
      DagonXIII
      January 25, 2012 at 8:18 am | #

      Now that we have this knowledge, there is only one response. We must line our facilities with Dr. Pepper so that we can begin the resistance.

  45. Jackson
    Jackson
    January 25, 2012 at 7:04 am | #

    I wonder if Dorothy is aware of just how close she is to quoting 1 Corinthians 13:11 verbatim in panel 2.

  46. lordphulish
    lordphulish
    January 25, 2012 at 9:39 am | #

    It’s a process of justification. When you grow up, you call your action figures valuable collectibles, anime become foreign films. In other words, they’re not comics, they’re graphic novels mom!

    • ryan
      ryan
      January 25, 2012 at 9:45 am | #

      guess i’m not a grown up yet. toys are toys, cartoons are cartoons, and comics are comics.

  47. begbert2
    begbert2
    January 25, 2012 at 10:41 am | #

    Non-comic-related question: when I try to enter a comment on this page, there appears to be an opaque blue background element on the web page that covers the right edge of the edit control. You can see it in how it chops off the right rounded corners of the control. It’s not a big deal when I enter a root-level like this one and it only covers the rightmost few pixels, but respond to a reply a few levels down and it covers a third of the edit control and I have to type literally blind. It’s hella annoying. Is anybody else seeing this?

    • Tucker
      Tucker
      January 25, 2012 at 12:28 pm | #

      I was debating commenting on that. I have an advantage that the Chromium rendering engine opens it up as I type, but it is noticeable. Another thing I’ve notices is that the Post Comment button tries to inhabit the same line as the following Gravatar. It’s not detrimental by any means, but it is slightly irritating.

      • Kryss LaBryn
        Kryss LaBryn
        January 26, 2012 at 12:36 pm | #

        Yeah, it’s doing it for me with Firefox as well. I just assumed it was something to do with my new monitor settings (changed them recently); if it’s not just me then it’s probably something to do with Willis’s new layout.

  48. Phillip Wilde
    Phillip Wilde
    January 25, 2012 at 12:27 pm | #

    And now I want a Dr Pepper. Excuse me.

  49. Arkadi
    Arkadi
    January 25, 2012 at 1:08 pm | #

    Yes, Joyce. Sierra’s navel is awesome ^^

  50. Lone Wolf
    Lone Wolf
    January 25, 2012 at 1:23 pm | #

    “When I became a man, I put away my childish things, including my fear of being thought childish and my desire to appear so very grown up.” – C.S. Lewis

    • Rory
      Rory
      August 5, 2013 at 3:21 pm | #

      Awesome quote.

  51. Doom Shepherd
    Doom Shepherd
    January 25, 2012 at 2:27 pm | #

    Next week (in a few years): Joyce reciprocates by attending a Wiccan ritual…

    Skyclad.

    • begbert2
      begbert2
      January 25, 2012 at 3:33 pm | #

      I would be fascinated to see Joyce’s reaction to a Wiccan ritual, even if everyone present is fully clothed.

      Though, “reciprocates”? Is somebody present a Wiccan to whom she could be reciprocating? Dorothy certainly isn’t.

    • Animal
      Animal
      January 25, 2012 at 5:10 pm | #

      I went to a few Wiccan to-dos a few years back, when I was still maintaining some curiosity about matters of religion. I didn’t see many people “skyclad” (for those not in the know, that’s New Age-ese for “nekkid”) but the ones that were, almost without exception, really should not have been.

      To quote Joseph Page: “Yipes. Just yipes.”

      • Tucker
        Tucker
        January 25, 2012 at 5:16 pm | #

        Everyone in this particular strip is Joseph Page resistant.

  52. Uniqueantique
    Uniqueantique
    January 25, 2012 at 6:38 pm | #

    Joyce would not likely last thru a Wiccan ritual. She would scream and faint or run and scream. All those pagans around, if one atheist made here scream what would a whole group do to her 🙂

    • Kryss LaBryn
      Kryss LaBryn
      January 26, 2012 at 12:38 pm | #

      Heh. She should try a Heathen blot. Heh heh heh…

  53. J
    J
    January 28, 2012 at 3:41 pm | #

    Is that why we don’t see much more of the original comics?

  54. B.D
    B.D
    March 20, 2015 at 2:23 pm | #

    When Sierra’s hair is flipped over the other side of her face, an alternate personality takes over: “Mist”. “Mist” is basically The Spirit to Amazi-Girl’s Batman.

    (When her hair is completely tied back, she becomes “Sierra-Mist”, essentially the Captain America of the campus.)

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