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by David M Willis on August 13, 2016 at 12:01 am
  • 04 - It All Returns
└ Tags: becky, jennifer, walky

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    August 13, 2016 at 12:01 am | #

    except maybe of embarrassment, jeez

    • TheAnonymousGuy
      TheAnonymousGuy
      August 13, 2016 at 12:33 am | #

      Lesbian immortality stare activate!

      • Aeron
        Aeron
        August 13, 2016 at 1:04 am | #

        Care Bear, STARE!

        • Deanatay
          Deanatay
          August 13, 2016 at 8:08 am | #

          Care. Bear. GLARE.

          • Griiins
            Griiins
            August 13, 2016 at 11:14 am | #

            ACTIVATE!

      • Gareth
        Gareth
        August 13, 2016 at 3:56 am | #

        I need to use this information to achieve immortality for myself. Now who is the closest person to me who is also a lesbian *checks*. It’s my mother in law…. Well I’m screwed, lol

        • Vicmaze
          Vicmaze
          August 13, 2016 at 6:08 am | #

          Mirror magic Maybe?

      • NelC
        NelC
        August 13, 2016 at 2:29 pm | #

        Lesbians get all the best powers.

    • Slartibeast Button, BIA
      Slartibeast Button, BIA
      August 13, 2016 at 12:46 pm | #

      But what if Becky gets distracted by the “safe and warm forever“?

      • Ana Chronistic
        Ana Chronistic
        August 13, 2016 at 10:03 pm | #

        she can totes stare at those

  2. Dalrint
    Dalrint
    August 13, 2016 at 12:01 am | #

    It is probably pretty hard to kill yourself with someone just staring at you. Forever.

    • Dafydd
      Dafydd
      August 13, 2016 at 12:02 am | #

      Not if you kill her first…

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        August 13, 2016 at 12:04 am | #

        Well that’s one way to end a chapter.

        • Wheelpath
          Wheelpath
          August 13, 2016 at 12:06 am | #

          And then Dina becomes a super villain next chapter?

          • Reltzik
            Reltzik
            August 13, 2016 at 12:08 am | #

            She’s already got a super-power of stealth and a special dino-fighting combat style. But…. what sort of villainous deeds would she be motivated to do?

            • inqntrol
              inqntrol
              August 13, 2016 at 12:11 am | #

              Bring dinosaurs back to life and unleash them on the world?

              • HMRC4EVR
                HMRC4EVR
                August 13, 2016 at 8:59 am | #

                If so, she and Mezagog from Power Rangers Dino Thunder would get along quite well.

                • Andorxor
                  Andorxor
                  August 15, 2016 at 6:59 am | #

                  With her stealth she is the white dino ranger

            • Plasma Mongoose
              Plasma Mongoose
              August 13, 2016 at 12:19 am | #

              It would involve feathers.

              • Reltzik
                Reltzik
                August 13, 2016 at 12:27 am | #

                Not necessarilly. She might just bring back anklyosaurus.

                • Gamaran Sepudomyn
                  Gamaran Sepudomyn
                  August 13, 2016 at 6:49 am | #

                  Ankylosaurs may have had armpit feathers, actually.

      • Dana
        Dana
        August 13, 2016 at 12:05 am | #

        Killing someone is a super effective way to get them to stop staring at you.

        • Reltzik
          Reltzik
          August 13, 2016 at 12:10 am | #

          Meh, there’s fewer legal ramifications if you just blind them. And it’s less morally problematic.

          ….. well that’s TECHNICALLY TRUE….

        • butts
          butts
          August 13, 2016 at 12:10 am | #

          yessss, precioussssss…. murder EVERYONES…

          • butts
            butts
            August 13, 2016 at 12:11 am | #

            Funny how I have no qualms about making jokes about murder, and yet I try to avoid jokes about suicide.

            • Disloyal Subject
              Disloyal Subject
              August 13, 2016 at 2:25 am | #

              Murder’s usually more fun.

              • The Other Mike
                The Other Mike
                August 13, 2016 at 4:32 am | #

                And you can do it more than once.

            • Dean
              Dean
              August 13, 2016 at 6:07 am | #

              What about jokes about murder-suicide?

              • Darkoneko
                Darkoneko
                August 13, 2016 at 6:53 am | #

                The audience died of boredom.

        • George Wiman
          George Wiman
          August 13, 2016 at 10:37 am | #

          If you don’t mind listening to THE BEATING OF THAT INFERNAL HEART…

      • Deanatay
        Deanatay
        August 13, 2016 at 8:11 am | #

        Sexy Lesbian Murder-Suicide.

  3. LimeSheep
    LimeSheep
    August 13, 2016 at 12:01 am | #

    oh good, theyre both under observation

    • Brute
      Brute
      August 13, 2016 at 12:12 am | #

      nice

  4. butts
    butts
    August 13, 2016 at 12:02 am | #

    Oh, jeez, Becky…

    • butts
      butts
      August 13, 2016 at 12:03 am | #

      (the hovertext stole my original joke)

      • Stephen R. Bierce
        Stephen R. Bierce
        August 13, 2016 at 12:11 am | #

        Whose pot is blacker than her kettle? (Paraphrasing the theme to The Black Adder)

    • inqntrol
      inqntrol
      August 13, 2016 at 12:04 am | #

      She has good intentions, but still, staring at someone in that way is creepy.

      • butts
        butts
        August 13, 2016 at 12:05 am | #

        Beautiful cinnamon roll too good for this world, too pure

      • Fart Captor
        Fart Captor
        August 13, 2016 at 12:52 am | #

        But her sad puppy-dog eyes are so saaaad

  5. Guairdean
    Guairdean
    August 13, 2016 at 12:02 am | #

    Becky’s Mom was out if sight for a while.

    • AGV
      AGV
      August 13, 2016 at 3:04 am | #

      Aaand that’s dark, but sadly true

  6. Porto
    Porto
    August 13, 2016 at 12:02 am | #

    That…..

    is sad. Like…really, really damned sad.

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      August 13, 2016 at 12:24 am | #

      I agree.
      Becky still kinda blames herself for her mom’s suicide…?

      • Fart Captor
        Fart Captor
        August 13, 2016 at 12:33 am | #

        I think that not having a chance and/or not being able to do anything to prevent it was really painful for her, so she really can’t bare the thought of not being able to do anything here.

        I don’t think there’s been anything to suggest that she blames herself (so far, at least), though it’s possible she blames herself for not seeing some kind of red flag that would have allowed to do something before it was too late, whether or not there actually were any signs she could have noticed. 🙁

        • Leorale
          Leorale
          August 13, 2016 at 12:39 am | #

          That would also make sense. Must watch for super-hidden and possibly non-existent indications that you’re gonna die!

          I know a highschooler who is privy to his dad’s suicidal ideation. That’s gotta be intense.

        • Tan
          Tan
          August 13, 2016 at 7:58 am | #

          From my own experience, when you lose someone you care about to suicide, there is ALWAYS an aspect of blaming yourself, albeit not necessarily in so many words. If only I’d listened better. If only I’d picked up on signs quicker. If only I’d been there with them at that exact moment. If only I’d said one more exact right thing, given one more hug, made them smile one more time.

          At least that’s how I feel, and I’ve only ever lost friends. I can only imagine the feeling if it were immediate family.

          • Nobody
            Nobody
            August 13, 2016 at 10:00 am | #

            *hugs*

          • Cerberus
            Cerberus
            August 13, 2016 at 12:23 pm | #

            *hugs* And yeah, suicide is one of those things that trigger survivor’s guilt and self-blame hard, because it’s really easy to pour over your actions or their actions for those little moments “you should have seen” or “should have been there for”. I kick myself enough for missing attempts by friends and students of mine, so I can’t imagine how much it must hit to feel one missed a completed suicide.

            And for Becky it is so much worse, because a) she lived with her mom and spent almost all of her time with her being educated and raised, so the windows for Bonnie to have taken those pills and to have taken those pills long enough to have died because of complications in the hospital must have been very small, b) Becky obviously cared a ton in those ghost panels at her house for her and Bonnie was probably the thing that protected her from as much of Toedad’s abuse that she could by accepting the brunt of it, so losing her mom wasn’t just losing her mom, but also the only thing that protected her from her dad, and c) She was the one to find her and it was too late. Like, holy shit, to be the one to find her, to think you had a chance, that you may have found her in time, she’s at the hospital and she’s hanging on by a thread, and then, nope, no you didn’t? Holy crap, that’d break a lot of people.

            No wonder her mask is fully cracked by the last panel.

            • Amazi-Stool
              Amazi-Stool
              August 13, 2016 at 2:37 pm | #

              I find that explanation a little bit too – static for the Toedad side.
              Bonnie’s death definitely had a lot of impact on Toedad and may be the final impulse that pushed him over the cliff.

              He was a fundie nut before the death of his wife, but visit a school campus with a rifle presumably would not have happened then.

              • Cerberus
                Cerberus
                August 13, 2016 at 4:01 pm | #

                Oh, I think he definitely got worse. But I think him striking Becky was too casual and easy for it to be something that only started once Bonnie had died. Plus, it’s canon that he’s been hyper-controlling for awhile, so the likelihood that he’s been abusive towards his family for awhile is high even if the stress of losing Bonnie has made him even more Toedad than usual.

  7. Fart Captor
    Fart Captor
    August 13, 2016 at 12:03 am | #

    What?! How they manage to pry her hand away?

    • Mollyscribbles
      Mollyscribbles
      August 13, 2016 at 12:04 am | #

      The hospital would have access to the jaws of life.

      • Stephen R. Bierce
        Stephen R. Bierce
        August 13, 2016 at 12:06 am | #

        That and hand sanitizer is a good solvent versus super glue. I learned that just recently.

        • Reltzik
          Reltzik
          August 13, 2016 at 12:11 am | #

          For that matter, the nurses could just inject a numbing local.

          …. that or they know all the pressure points.

        • Woobie
          Woobie
          August 13, 2016 at 3:28 pm | #

          Becuz alcohol.
          I use 91% with rubber gloves to get sticker residue and such off.

    • Amazi-Stool
      Amazi-Stool
      August 13, 2016 at 2:39 pm | #

      The super-glue she used is called “metaphor”!

  8. Glitchmebaby
    Glitchmebaby
    August 13, 2016 at 12:03 am | #

    Hospitals would love to hire becky. If she never stops starin the patients with die

  9. Kris
    Kris
    August 13, 2016 at 12:03 am | #

    Becky….creepy.

  10. John
    John
    August 13, 2016 at 12:04 am | #

    Okay, Becky, there’s comforting, and there’s creepy. Comforting is waaaaaay over there. This? This is creepy.

    • Just Me
      Just Me
      August 13, 2016 at 12:06 am | #

      And annoying.

      • SgtWadeyWilson
        SgtWadeyWilson
        August 13, 2016 at 12:10 am | #

        Okay, but Becky is seriously concerned. Some part of her brain went: “Oh no, not again.” and now she’s trying to keep the bowl of petunias from hitting the ground.

        • John
          John
          August 13, 2016 at 12:22 am | #

          Does that make Ruth the whale?

          • SgtWadeyWilson
            SgtWadeyWilson
            August 13, 2016 at 12:46 am | #

            Umm… I haven’t really thought this metaphor through quite that far…

            …maybe?

            • ScarvesandCelery
              ScarvesandCelery
              August 13, 2016 at 2:43 am | #

              And what’s this liquid inside this bottle? I’ll it alcohol. I wonder if we’ll be friends…

        • FireSTK
          FireSTK
          August 13, 2016 at 6:50 am | #

          Intentions or not, Billie’s reaction reads creeped out.

  11. Solenoid
    Solenoid
    August 13, 2016 at 12:04 am | #

    Becky :C

    • Solenoid
      Solenoid
      August 13, 2016 at 12:17 am | #

      Note the extra large white spot in her eyes. The lights’ reflection. She’s holding back tears.

      • Cerberus
        Cerberus
        August 13, 2016 at 12:25 pm | #

        By only the thinnest of margins, too. Holding a rictus smile to keep from completely collapsing. I think we might be seeing that Becky collapse I was expecting at the end of the weekend, right here.

  12. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    August 13, 2016 at 12:05 am | #

    This same logic can be applied to the Schrodinger’s Cat experiment.

    • butts
      butts
      August 13, 2016 at 12:13 am | #

      “watched photons never commit suicide”

      • WhoWasI
        WhoWasI
        August 13, 2016 at 12:26 am | #

        But what about neutrinos? Since they’re almost unobservable, you never know what they are AND aren’t up to.

        • Leorale
          Leorale
          August 13, 2016 at 12:41 am | #

          Electrons have been feeling very negative lately.

          • WhoWasI
            WhoWasI
            August 13, 2016 at 12:55 am | #

            We’d better have Becky keep an eye on them too.

          • Bagge
            Bagge
            August 13, 2016 at 1:23 am | #

            SHAME!!!!

          • void
            void
            August 13, 2016 at 4:59 am | #

            I was about to make a horrible joke about the Heisenberg uncertainty principle but I realized it might be inappropriate.

            • Deanatay
              Deanatay
              August 13, 2016 at 8:17 am | #

              If you lock a cat in a box with a device that will murder the cat if a radioactive particle decays, will the cat commit suicide?

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                August 13, 2016 at 11:30 am | #

                No. The cat will murder you. (or at least pee on your keyboard.) Cats are evil.

                Cuddly, but evil.

                • DSL
                  DSL
                  August 13, 2016 at 8:56 pm | #

                  Seems.like justifiable homicide in this case.

                  Cats aren’t evil. Just indifferent.

  13. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    August 13, 2016 at 12:05 am | #

    Alt text: But watched potatoes in watched pots get skinned, boiled, mashed, and served with butter and/or gravy.

    ….. I’m not sure how that’s relevant, but there you go.

    • SgtWadeyWilson
      SgtWadeyWilson
      August 13, 2016 at 12:14 am | #

      I once burned noodles because I wasn’t watching a pot. Boiled all the water right off.

      Video games are distracting…

      • inqntrol
        inqntrol
        August 13, 2016 at 12:20 am | #

        If you were playing a multiplayer game, then you have an excuse..because you can’t pause.

        • SgtWadeyWilson
          SgtWadeyWilson
          August 13, 2016 at 12:39 am | #

          Multiplayer local. So yes and no. I do get to share some blame though.

          • Darkoneko
            Darkoneko
            August 13, 2016 at 6:56 am | #

            That’s why I always set a timer alarm on my phone when I boil stuff like that~

      • Orion Fury
        Orion Fury
        August 13, 2016 at 1:17 am | #

        I rather like the metaness of this one, cause I could picture him saying this about being in a game, rather than playing one, as implied.

      • Deanatay
        Deanatay
        August 13, 2016 at 8:19 am | #

        I’ve melted the bottom off of a pot that way. Yep, actually melted it clean off. I was REALLY distracted.

      • Roborat
        Roborat
        August 15, 2016 at 2:41 pm | #

        My sister once welded bacon to a frying pan, for the same reason.

    • WhoWasI
      WhoWasI
      August 13, 2016 at 12:34 am | #

      Oh great. Now we’re all hungry. I hope you made enough for everybody.

  14. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    August 13, 2016 at 12:05 am | #

    Initially I thought Becky was enthusiastic over Billie’s lesbianism.

    • Peter
      Peter
      August 13, 2016 at 12:16 am | #

      There’s probably a bit of that in her response, too.

      • Leorale
        Leorale
        August 13, 2016 at 12:19 am | #

        She knows what bisexuals are! (I mean, not until very recently, but still.)

        • Jason
          Jason
          August 13, 2016 at 1:22 am | #

          She kind of denied their existence though, if I recall.

          • Emperor Norton II
            Emperor Norton II
            August 13, 2016 at 2:41 am | #

            At first, but then she got around to learning it was possible after all.

            • Cerberus
              Cerberus
              August 13, 2016 at 12:27 pm | #

              Yup, thanks to a nice conversation with Sierra. And she knows that Billie is bi or at least strongly suspects.

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                August 13, 2016 at 2:17 pm | #

                With Sierra? I’m not sure what you’re thinking of, but she’s barely spoken to Sierra.
                I remember Danny talking to Dorothy about it and Becky getting drawn in. Not sure of anything else.

                • Cerberus
                  Cerberus
                  August 13, 2016 at 4:02 pm | #

                  Bonus strip.

                • Spencer
                  Spencer
                  August 13, 2016 at 6:49 pm | #

                  In a patreon bonus strip, Sierra told her she was bi and then Becky clued in that “liking both” is a thing.

                • JessWitt
                  JessWitt
                  August 13, 2016 at 7:49 pm | #

                  Oh Sierra’s bi? I didn’t know that.

                • Spencer
                  Spencer
                  August 13, 2016 at 7:50 pm | #

                  Indeed she is.

                  “God made everything! Who am I not to appreciate all of it?”

          • Deanatay
            Deanatay
            August 13, 2016 at 8:25 am | #

            Becky certainly denies that SHE could be bi. Her ALL-CONSUMING GIRL LUST completely precludes any interest in men.

    • Fart Captor
      Fart Captor
      August 13, 2016 at 12:23 am | #

      Billie’s bi, not a lesbian, but she I think Becky was more enthusiastic simply to know another queer lady, and Billie was the first she’d met.

      Sadly, the feeling is very much not mutual.

      • Woobie
        Woobie
        August 13, 2016 at 3:31 pm | #

        First she’d met nonsexually, maybe.

      • Amazi-Stool
        Amazi-Stool
        August 13, 2016 at 4:33 pm | #

        Billie was the first she’d met
        At IU and knowing that she’s queer, you mean?
        Because she “met” Kaitlin long before her visit at IU, and she even met Carla a minute before she met Billie the first time (see following strip).

  15. Umbrella Paint
    Umbrella Paint
    August 13, 2016 at 12:05 am | #

    Becky has found her kind

    sort of

  16. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    August 13, 2016 at 12:05 am | #

    And Dina will be watching Becky watching Billie.

    • inqntrol
      inqntrol
      August 13, 2016 at 12:18 am | #

      That’s double creepy.

      • Plasma Mongoose
        Plasma Mongoose
        August 13, 2016 at 12:20 am | #

        Creepy squared.

        • Darkoneko
          Darkoneko
          August 13, 2016 at 6:58 am | #

          Billie was watching Ruth, to begin with.

          • Cerberus
            Cerberus
            August 13, 2016 at 12:27 pm | #

            It’s a chain of strenuous observation.

            • Reltzik
              Reltzik
              August 13, 2016 at 2:15 pm | #

              So…. BECKY watches the watchers?

              • Woobie
                Woobie
                August 13, 2016 at 3:32 pm | #

                Finally, the answer!

        • Deanatay
          Deanatay
          August 13, 2016 at 8:27 am | #

          Don’t creep the creeper.

      • Peter
        Peter
        August 13, 2016 at 12:21 am | #

        And we will be watching Dina watching Becky watching Billie.

        • Kris
          Kris
          August 13, 2016 at 12:23 am | #

          But who watches the watchers?

          • Earnbrand
            Earnbrand
            August 13, 2016 at 12:28 am | #

            My cat is watching me watch Dina watching Becky watching Billie.

            • Peter
              Peter
              August 13, 2016 at 12:34 am | #

              Stalkerception.

          • vlademir1
            vlademir1
            August 13, 2016 at 2:04 am | #

            As Uatu could tell you, were he still alive, there are Watchers who watch other Watchers. 😀

          • HMRC4EVR
            HMRC4EVR
            August 13, 2016 at 9:04 am | #

            The Watcher of course. Uatu know that by now.

        • John
          John
          August 13, 2016 at 12:25 am | #

          *puts Jethro Tull’s “Watching Me Watching You” on the music*

  17. lia47
    lia47
    August 13, 2016 at 12:06 am | #

    wait did we find out that beckys mom committed suicide or am i misremembering

    • butts
      butts
      August 13, 2016 at 12:08 am | #

      Yes, that’s the thing.

    • poofdepoof
      poofdepoof
      August 13, 2016 at 12:09 am | #

      yes. http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/ghosts/

      • lia47
        lia47
        August 13, 2016 at 12:23 am | #

        right right rightrightright

    • Time Heist
      Time Heist
      August 13, 2016 at 12:09 am | #

      I can’t remember if it was outright said but it’s been heavily implied. HEAVILY.

      • Peter
        Peter
        August 13, 2016 at 12:13 am | #

        It was specifically said that it was “attempted suicide” (the trigger warning on that page). Whether she went through with it later, or is “off stage” in some kind of institution, we haven’t been told.

        • SgtWadeyWilson
          SgtWadeyWilson
          August 13, 2016 at 12:17 am | #

          I could’ve sworn David Willis said for a fact that she’s dead.

          Then again, I swear too much.

        • Leorale
          Leorale
          August 13, 2016 at 12:17 am | #

          Hank also eluded to it with Joyce, who hasn’t been informed (she believed the cover story that Becky’s mom died of cancer).

          • Peter
            Peter
            August 13, 2016 at 12:20 am | #

            Yeah, I think she’s dead, too — but the page linked above specifically says “attempted suicide”.

            • DinaWho
              DinaWho
              August 13, 2016 at 12:40 am | #

              **detailed discussion of suicide cw**

              My understanding is that she either died in hospital from the attempt (depending on what it was she took, this is quite plausible – paracetamol/acetaminophen is ridiculously easy to OD on, and the resulting liver failure is a relatively lingering cause of death) or she had a later successful attempt after she was discharged (and probably received no follow-up care). I don’t know if we have any more information on it than that.

              • Leorale
                Leorale
                August 13, 2016 at 12:48 am | #

                Most people don’t know that pills are a painful way to go (because organ failure). ~The More You Know!~?

                • DinaWho
                  DinaWho
                  August 13, 2016 at 1:56 am | #

                  To be fair, it depends what it is. An OD on a suppressant (like the alcohol/sleeping pills combo) would probably kill you before organ failure came into the picture.

                  …and I am probably coming across as disturbingly morbid. Sorry about that.
                  Don’t study pharmacology whilst lowkey suicidal, folks

                • Cerberus
                  Cerberus
                  August 13, 2016 at 12:33 pm | #

                  Yup, that was my read as well. She took something like ibuprofen in high dosage, Becky discovered her, and then she died days/weeks later in the hospital from the organ failure (and that’s also probably why cancer was a good cover story, since she was probably weak and emaciated looking from the stomach pump and at least her liver was failing).

                  Which is why that’s the ghost flashback panel rather than something with Toedad running out of a room holding Bonnie.

                  I had several friends try to OD on pills but were luckily found fast enough to get their stomach pumped with only a little lingering damage. And had to babysit a bottle of vicodin for a friend because she was stockpiling it for her planned suicide attempt and she was recognizing the planning.

                  It’s a real ugly way to die if it completes.

              • Neeks
                Neeks
                August 13, 2016 at 2:52 am | #

                Seconding how easy it is to OD on acetaminophen. I had to work a 12hr shift while on my period, and I took A LOT of midol cuz I get bad cramps. I started getting increasingly dizzy and ended up having to go home early and call out sick the next day to detox. Oops.

                • Cerberus
                  Cerberus
                  August 13, 2016 at 12:34 pm | #

                  I accidentally OD’d on one of my medications once (accidentally took a double dose of a medication that can cause liver damage in high doses) and spent the next day just dizzy and terrified that I just fucked up my body for good.

  18. Rukduk
    Rukduk
    August 13, 2016 at 12:07 am | #

    And like that the tears start flowing. Dammit but I can relate to that sentiment…

  19. Kernanator
    Kernanator
    August 13, 2016 at 12:09 am | #

    Does Becky still have a key to Billie’s room? Cause she’s going to sneak into Billie’s closet, just to burn it down.

    • Fart Captor
      Fart Captor
      August 13, 2016 at 12:25 am | #

      Why would she do that? Billie’s not in there. And if she were, setting it on fire would just cause the very thing she wants to prevent!

      • Time Heist
        Time Heist
        August 13, 2016 at 10:31 am | #

        I think the “joke” was so that she can’t go back into the closet?

  20. miados
    miados
    August 13, 2016 at 12:10 am | #

    or i will kill you first for being so creepy

  21. Thevoiceoftreason
    Thevoiceoftreason
    August 13, 2016 at 12:12 am | #

    Don’t blink. Blink and she’s dead. They are fast. Faster than you can believe. Don’t turn your back. Don’t look away. And don’t blink.
    Good Luck.

    • Peter
      Peter
      August 13, 2016 at 12:14 am | #

      Just this once, nobody dies.

      • Anorak
        Anorak
        August 13, 2016 at 1:21 am | #

        Everything i love dies. quick, someone convince me to hate dina before something happens.

        • Disloyal Subject
          Disloyal Subject
          August 13, 2016 at 2:47 am | #

          Tell me, how do you feel about this year’s presidential candidates?

          • Deanatay
            Deanatay
            August 13, 2016 at 8:32 am | #

            SO MUCH HATE FOR THEM.

            But, that just makes me love Dina more, ’cause she’s not one of them!

            AND COULD NEVER BE ONE OF THEM.

            Never!

      • Khyrin
        Khyrin
        August 13, 2016 at 11:05 am | #

        The line is “Everybody lives, rose! Just this once, EVERYBODY LIVES!”

    • Orion Fury
      Orion Fury
      August 13, 2016 at 1:04 am | #

      I do rather like how the inspiration for those things had disappeared the next time he went to see it.

    • Amazi-Stool
      Amazi-Stool
      August 13, 2016 at 4:53 pm | #

      Don’t <blink>!

      <blink> and you’re dead!

  22. Leon real
    Leon real
    August 13, 2016 at 12:13 am | #

    Oh look, Walky was actually going back to Billie. It’s almost like he cares for her or something.

    • Time Heist
      Time Heist
      August 13, 2016 at 10:31 am | #

      Well, of course! He arguably thinks of her more like a sister than he does Sal.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        August 13, 2016 at 11:34 am | #

        Yeah, but it’s a nice answer to a lot of the commentary yesterday, which was torn between “Walky’s just wandering off to the snack machine because feels.” and “See he’s turning away from Dorothy. They’re breaking up.”

        When instead he just was heading off to take part in today’s strip, which no one else had noticed yet.

        • Cerberus
          Cerberus
          August 13, 2016 at 12:40 pm | #

          Which is also beautiful. Like I was probably a bit hard on Walky in previous strips (so mea culpa), but this was all him at his best. Noticing Billie got released and running to meet her. Even asking about Ruth and her health even though he strongly dislikes her and was seconds ago stewing about her because he knows she is important to Billie.

          It’s moments like these that makes me overall optimistic about the goof.

        • Willoughby Chase
          Willoughby Chase
          August 13, 2016 at 2:28 pm | #

          Could be any of those options. It could be he turned away and Billie appeared. We just don’t know, just not enough information.

          Dorothy did not look happy in that last panel.

  23. Wendy
    Wendy
    August 13, 2016 at 12:14 am | #

    Oh god this past arc actually makes the last panel so so so sad???

    damnyouwillis.jpg

    • Orion Fury
      Orion Fury
      August 13, 2016 at 1:04 am | #

      damnyouwillis.wav?

      • svata
        svata
        August 13, 2016 at 1:18 am | #

        damnyouwillis.mp4

        • Emperor Norton II
          Emperor Norton II
          August 13, 2016 at 2:43 am | #

          Damn You Willis, the Netflix Original TV Series!

          • Slartibeast Button, BIA
            Slartibeast Button, BIA
            August 13, 2016 at 9:09 am | #

            Not as good as DYW! on Broadway.

            • Emperor Norton II
              Emperor Norton II
              August 13, 2016 at 4:57 pm | #

              Only because that has Neil Patrick Harris in it. Everything is better with NPH!

              • DSL
                DSL
                August 13, 2016 at 9:03 pm | #

                Damme Ye Wyllise, by Wm. Shakespeare.

        • Amazi-Stool
          Amazi-Stool
          August 13, 2016 at 4:56 pm | #

          damnyouwillis.com

          For comedy? Well, it might be dramware!

  24. Some1
    Some1
    August 13, 2016 at 12:18 am | #

    Questing of Age

    The blast conveniently breaks through the chains holding Joyce, Becky and Dina.

    Joyce rises to her feet, and grabs Becky’s hand to pull her up.

    Becky: Well at least we’re free.

    Dina: Yes, but Joyce’s mother is here.

    Jocelyne: We need an exit, fast.

    Carol: For you, there is only destruction!

    Carol starts to raise her power again.

    Jocelyne: Shit.

    Joyce: Creation of Adam!

    The blast sends Carol through the wall and knocks her out.

    Dorothy and Walky appear over the hole.

    Walky: Hey guys! You need a ride!?

    Joyce: It would be helpful!

    Dorothy: C’mon then!

    They leap up and run, to where there’s a massive airship waiting outside.

    Becky: Sweet.

    Sarah: C’mon!

    Everyone clambers on to the ship, and they began to rise into the air.

    Joyce: Who’s driving?

    Becky sticks her head into the room.

    Becky: Hey Joyce! It’s your dad!

    Joyce: what!?

    Dina: He wishes to assist us.

    Walky: Well that was a complete waste of time.

    Amber: Actually…

    Amber pulls out a sheet of paper.

    Joyce: What’s that?

    Amber: The man on that business card left a bit ago, but he left this address behind. For some reason, the girl working at White Castle had it.

    Walky: Where does it lead?

    Amber: France.

    Walky: FRANCE!?

    Joyce: oooh croissants!

    Dorothy: and wine.

    Joyce: Any way, lets hope we can find our mysterious man there. I’m gonna go talk to my dad.

    Joyce walks to the steering wheel, where Hank is piloting the ship.

    Joyce: Why are you helping us?

    Hank: What? I can’t assist me little girl?

    Joyce: What about mom?

    Hank: I’m sure she’ll be mad, but this is more important.

    Joyce: Thanks daddy.

    Joyce rejoins the others, and they look out the large window, over mountains and rivers.

    • Some1
      Some1
      August 13, 2016 at 1:07 am | #

      Also, Mary escaped in the confusion.

  25. drs
    drs
    August 13, 2016 at 12:18 am | #

    “Oh look, Walky was actually going back to Billie. It’s almost like he cares for her or something.”

    Madness!

    On the “Becky’s housing” front, Ruth’s room is temporarily free…

    • WhoWasI
      WhoWasI
      August 13, 2016 at 12:37 am | #

      And Billie has lots of keys to it!

  26. Decepticon357
    Decepticon357
    August 13, 2016 at 12:20 am | #

    Wait, why does Billie need to come back week after week?

    • IDontDoUsernames
      IDontDoUsernames
      August 13, 2016 at 12:23 am | #

      Therapy.

      • Leorale
        Leorale
        August 13, 2016 at 12:29 am | #

        Finally!

      • Decepticon357
        Decepticon357
        August 13, 2016 at 12:39 am | #

        Yeah but, she HAS to? says who?

        • Orion Fury
          Orion Fury
          August 13, 2016 at 1:05 am | #

          Possibly as a condition of staying in school?

        • Fart Captor
          Fart Captor
          August 13, 2016 at 1:59 am | #

          At this point, it may simply be “because the doctor said she needed to”. doubt its any more binding than if they’d told her to get more exercise.

          Hopefully she shows up, either way.

          • Disloyal Subject
            Disloyal Subject
            August 13, 2016 at 2:49 am | #

            Cynicism multiplied by drowsiness wonders what happens if she shows up drunk.

        • Magpie
          Magpie
          August 13, 2016 at 6:34 am | #

          In my experience, if US universities suspect you of being any kind of depressed they require you to be in counseling or you are suspended/expelled. You need a counselor to sign off on your mental well-being to continue attending classes.

        • FireSTK
          FireSTK
          August 13, 2016 at 6:57 am | #

          Likely it was a condition of the medical team releasing her.

          • Decepticon357
            Decepticon357
            August 13, 2016 at 8:07 am | #

            Yeah, but it was Ruth who was the patient, can doctors just do that? grab some random non patient and start giving them orders?

            “Hey, I know you weren’t actually the patient you just came in with her but now you have to follow my orders, that’ll be such-and-such dollars, next patient!”

            Walky was there before, why didn’t the doctor just grab Walky and tell him he has to see a therapist for being such an idiot manchild too? Is this a fascist Hospital?

            • Deanatay
              Deanatay
              August 13, 2016 at 8:36 am | #

              I think a lot of people seem to be assuming that only Ruth was the patient, and Billie was there to console her. From what I picked up, they were BOTH patients. That’s why they let Walky in – he’s the emergency contact of one of the patients.

              • Decepticon357
                Decepticon357
                August 13, 2016 at 8:39 am | #

                Oh…..but like, why? I’m not sure why Billie is considered a patient when all she was doing was lying next to her trying to comfort her.

                • bhtooefr
                  bhtooefr
                  August 13, 2016 at 9:08 am | #

                  Because Walky advised Chloe that Billie might also be suicidal, presumably.

                • No Name
                  No Name
                  August 13, 2016 at 9:11 am | #

                  Because Walky told Chloe Billie might be suicidal too, so Chloe told the doctors to give both a look-see.

                • Time Heist
                  Time Heist
                  August 13, 2016 at 10:33 am | #

                  Chloe mentioned that they were both suicidal.

                • Fart Captor
                  Fart Captor
                  August 13, 2016 at 11:51 am | #

                  She is a patient, they just don’t consider her to be in immediate danger, so they’re not keeping her under observation like Ruth.

                • Slartibeast Button, BIA
                  Slartibeast Button, BIA
                  August 13, 2016 at 12:30 pm | #

                  The doctor caught on that this is a SLSP, so they should be kept apart*. That way neither will try anything, because they have to wait until they are together again.

                  (They have to die together so they will reincarnate next door to each other with a Red String of Fated Love tying them together.)

                  * Except when under observation.

                • Cerberus
                  Cerberus
                  August 13, 2016 at 12:46 pm | #

                  What everyone else said. Walky told Chloe that Billie was also suicidal. Billie was also low responsive when Chloe saw them on the bed together. Billie has shown huge signs of depression and suicidal ideation. Additionally, Billie has been drunk fairly consistently since move-in day. So blood tests or just smelling her breath probably revealed that, so even if it’s not for depression, it’s at least going to be focused on alcohol abuse.

                  So yeah, there was no way Billie was getting through this without at least mandatory therapy sessions or being forced to take a semester off.

                  On a separate note, I’m squeeing so hard to see Billie and Ruth finally in therapy. It’s going to talk so long even if it is halfway decent (and a lot of college therapy is not halfway decent), but we’ll see Billie and Ruth actually confronting a lot of the demons they’ve been running from and building new strategies to cope without long-term suicide plans.

                • Amazi-Stool
                  Amazi-Stool
                  August 13, 2016 at 5:02 pm | #

                  Exactly this!

                  What Billie did was:
                  * Going into Ruth’s room
                  * Locking the door
                  * and staying on the bed next to Ruth until Chloe found them

                  Not hard to guess that she is somehow related to that suicide ideation of Ruth.

          • Woobie
            Woobie
            August 13, 2016 at 3:42 pm | #

            The ONLY way one may be kept against their will is if harm to oneself is suspected. Otherwise, one can leave a hospital at any time.
            You don’t have to leave in a wheelchair, either. The hospital will have (very strong) preferences, but I left after abdominal cancer surgery on my own feet.

    • Thevoiceoftreason
      Thevoiceoftreason
      August 13, 2016 at 12:24 am | #

      Psychological consoling.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      August 13, 2016 at 12:30 am | #

      Probably more psychological counseling than therapy.

    • Sam
      Sam
      August 13, 2016 at 6:04 am | #

      I don’t know if she particularly ‘needs’ to because they ‘say so’ or because if she does NOT show up they’d try to track her down and that’d be a bigger hassle than just going.

  27. Tenchan
    Tenchan
    August 13, 2016 at 12:24 am | #

    Oh poor Becky! This is just breaking my heart! :’-(

  28. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    August 13, 2016 at 12:25 am | #

    What asshole would laugh about this ?

    • Hwajaemae
      Hwajaemae
      August 13, 2016 at 12:28 am | #

      I’ve known a lot of people who deride depression. Especially if you are prescribed medicine or therapy for it, they see it as you being a loser or defective or something along those lines. Billie’s probably mostly afraid because as a highschool bully she might have done the same thing back in the day. But people like that do exist, and they can make things very difficult.

      • Orion Fury
        Orion Fury
        August 13, 2016 at 1:09 am | #

        On some level, I envy those that would do so. It means that they’ve never known pain so severe that facing the aether itself is preferable to continuing to draw breath.

      • Cerberus
        Cerberus
        August 13, 2016 at 12:58 pm | #

        Yup, it’s one of the things you find out real fucking fast when you admit to depression in real life or online. Basically, that just marks you as a target because people, especially people wrapped up in toxic masculinity view that as meaning you are a) crazy and b) weak.

        And to bully types, being one of those means that you are now a perfect target to harass and make a game out of*. Where they play at seeing if they can push you over the edge because hey, you’re weak and crazy and thus worthless to society in your eyes or can be convinced to become strong and sane by just trying hard rather than wallowing in self-pity (these people classically do not understand how mental illness or suicidal ideation work).

        *ALL THE CONTENT WARNINGS, but I wish I were fucking joking:
        http://nymag.com/selectall/2016/07/kiwi-farms-the-webs-biggest-community-of-stalkers.html

        And our society reinforces these ideas, by propping up the idea of decrying “weakness” as a social means of demonstrating strength (for an extreme example, listening to a roider ranting about people who don’t jack themselves on steroids and exercise all the time). And also propping up the idea that “craziness” is a catch all thing that makes one socially worthless and often socially dangerous (see how often spree killers are called crazy whether or not they actually have a mental illness and whether or not there was something else like toxic masculinity driving their actions).

        Having a condition like this also marks you as non-normative in some way, which also can bring a lot of abuse, because people tend to bully that which they don’t know, because it’s easier to try and eliminate the unknown rather than take the time and effort to try and understand it. Plus, she was also just outed as queer and probably grew up in a community and high school where being outed was a one way ticket to being bullied city (hence why she and Alice were so secretive about their relationship and why she was so in denial that this actually meant she wasn’t actually straight).

        So add up all that and Billie has good reason to fear that being diagnosed and discovered in front of everyone is gonna mean whisper gossip behind her back at best and abuse and bullying at moderate.

        Also, seriously, fuck those that bully depressed folks. Like, a lot of my kids suffer through that and suffered through being bullied for that at their old schools, so I crack down like a motherfucker at my school on it, because I’m a fierce mama bear of a teacher and no one is gonna harm my kids while I have the power to do something about it.

        • Fart Captor
          Fart Captor
          August 13, 2016 at 5:37 pm | #

          After reading that article you linked, I feel gross just knowing that I’m the same species as the kind of horrifically cruel pieces of shit who could even consider treating another human being that way.

          Then I had to go and click on one of the links (protip: don’t) in it to a post from one of their admins which mentioned how embarrassing it was that some of their posters had expressed guilt after someone they targeted died. I can’t understand how its even possible for someone to be such a disgusting, rancid shit-filled dumpster fire without the laws of physics breaking down and causing them to collapse into their own asshole, fedora and all. Trying to wrap my head around the idea is making my head hurt.

          HOWEVER, it also gives back me a bit of hope for humanity to learn that you’re a teacher, because I believe that’s somewhere that a compassionate, insightful, dedicated person could do an incredible amount of good. And while I only discovered this comic about a month ago, it’s immediately clear that you are all of those things. I think students must be really fortunate to have you in their lives.

        • Regalli
          Regalli
          August 13, 2016 at 10:52 pm | #

          Also, Godportunities. Also also, “Well if you ate healthy/tried yoga/a million other bullshit things that basically amount to ‘you’re just not trying hard enough you can’t REALLY have a chronic chemical imbalance in your brain’!” Those tend to have the veneer of sympathy at first, but then when time passes and you’re not Helping Yourself Be The Best You You Can Be, well, that’s just your own fault then. So sad. Should be trying harder. Just making it up for attention.

          And then I once more scream into a pillow.

        • Lady Sol
          Lady Sol
          August 14, 2016 at 4:14 pm | #

          OMG…that link…why is that a thing 🙁

    • Peter
      Peter
      August 13, 2016 at 12:29 am | #

      You’d be surprised how thoroughly vile people can be.

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      August 13, 2016 at 12:31 am | #

      They might laugh that Billie and Ruth were sitting in a tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G.

    • Thevoiceoftreason
      Thevoiceoftreason
      August 13, 2016 at 12:32 am | #

      Anyone unfamiliar with Ruth and Billie’s suicidal depression would find the idea of them actually being secret lovers when they were constantly fighting in public pretty funny.

    • Fart Captor
      Fart Captor
      August 13, 2016 at 12:35 am | #

      Uh, Mary, for one…

      • Thevoiceoftreason
        Thevoiceoftreason
        August 13, 2016 at 12:40 am | #

        Not Mary, you need a sense of humor to laugh.

        • Solenoid
          Solenoid
          August 13, 2016 at 12:52 am | #

          Imagine Mary tries to use this to make their life hell in some way and Joyce finds out. She’s already thrown one huge punch in this comic.

        • Fart Captor
          Fart Captor
          August 13, 2016 at 12:53 am | #

          Only for happy laughter.

          Cruel or maniacal laughter have different requirements…

          • Emperor Norton II
            Emperor Norton II
            August 13, 2016 at 2:46 am | #

            And we know that Mary will do “diabolical smile while holding fingertips together with spread fingers”, AKA the Evil Mastermind Planning Evil Deeds Smile™. So she would probably do the kind of cruel laughter that would make Joffrey oh-so-hot for her.

            • Disloyal Subject
              Disloyal Subject
              August 13, 2016 at 2:51 am | #

              I don’t think Joffrey had room for that kind of admiration in the withered husk that passed for his heart.
              They’re a perfect match, really.

            • Cerberus
              Cerberus
              August 13, 2016 at 1:00 pm | #

              Yup, or biting comments. She already did acerbic comments when Ruth desperately tried to be semi-functional and doing her job in the halls, which is what plopped her over the edge to being completely catatonic.

    • trlkly
      trlkly
      August 13, 2016 at 9:28 am | #

      If they know the whole story? Probably no one. If all they know is that she was dating Ruthless? Yeah, they’ll laugh.

      And how many of the people who would go to Joyce’s church will be here? They’d be laughing behind closed doors.

  29. Tomas
    Tomas
    August 13, 2016 at 12:31 am | #

    DEEEESSSPERADOOOO!

  30. Idontcarenomore
    Idontcarenomore
    August 13, 2016 at 12:35 am | #

    I understand that Becky’s mother was a suicide. Also that Becky thinks Billy is nice for letting her use her dorm room (without knowing that Billy didn’t care for her welfare, only that she was asked to do it, and it didn’t inconvenience her, so she did). And Becky discovered they are lesbians.

    However, are these seem reasons enough to account for Becky’s sudden ‘best friend’ actions?. She doesn’t really know Becky, and never met Ruthless, I think.

    I can understand her being glad to discover other lesbians, but not her timing in forcing her way into their really painful situation right now.

    I love Becky, one of my favorite characters here. But, I hope Joyce can maybe pull her back a bit on this one.

    • Idontcarenomore
      Idontcarenomore
      August 13, 2016 at 12:38 am | #

      Dang no edit.
      I can’t imagine the pain of her living with her mom’s suicide. But, I question if she would really react this strongly, to a girl who she barely knows girlfriend’s attempt at it?
      She is obviously, but I just don’t understand it.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      August 13, 2016 at 12:45 am | #

      Becky is a really compassionate person. Billie is cool, queer and was nice to Becky at a time when Billie REALLY needed someone to be nice to her. She is also in a very real sense part of Becky’s family.

      Becky likes her, wants to keep her as a friend and feels she owes her. She has also every reason to be terrified of suicide.

      As for how effective it is… yeah, Becky has no idea of what she is doing. Afterall, the only suicide she has experience of was the one she failed to stop.

      • Fart Captor
        Fart Captor
        August 13, 2016 at 1:01 am | #

        Yeah, that’s how I see it. It’s less about how well she knows Billie, more about what Billie symbolizes to her.

        • Orion Fury
          Orion Fury
          August 13, 2016 at 1:13 am | #

          I don’t wanna be in Becky head right now. I’m seeing stimming and crying and begging. It’s very overwhelming.

      • Cerberus
        Cerberus
        August 13, 2016 at 1:04 pm | #

        Not to mention she was told when she was given the room by Billie that Billie “wasn’t going to need it anymore”, which probably sounds a hell of a lot different to Becky now that she knows she was suicidal.

        Also, all of what Bagge said. Billie was the first other queer girl besides her roommate who denied her she ever met. She gave her haircut money in a really vulnerable part of her life and gave her a roof over her head and a place to hang her pictures at. Becky really admires Billie, Billie is part of what gave her the strength to trust that this place would be different than Anderson, and Billie helped her out when she was reaching her breaking point sharing a bed with Joyce every night.

        There was no way this wasn’t going to hit her as hard as a brick.

    • Thomas
      Thomas
      August 13, 2016 at 12:46 am | #

      I think you underestimate the amount of concern that Billie has for others. It’s just that she doesn’t want us to *know* she actually cares. That would imply weakness on her part & she can’t have that.

      • Thomas
        Thomas
        August 13, 2016 at 12:49 am | #

        Above comment is directed @ Idontcarenomore.

      • Emperor Norton II
        Emperor Norton II
        August 13, 2016 at 3:10 am | #

        I think I disagree with you on this.

        We have seen Billie help out others, and we have seen her revel in it, because it makes her feel useful again. Whether it was menial tasks like unclogging the garbage chute, or solving a lovers’ tiff… Or for that matter, her desire to help Walky get together with Dorothy. I think she clearly expressed that she cared about these things. And I also think that she very happily entered into that role, mainly because it made her feel popular again.

        And therein lies the rub. She did those things for herself as well as for others. Now, if that had been her only MO for being/feeling popular, that would have been the end of it as far as I am concerned.

        Of course, the drug of popularity is powerful, oh-so-powerful, and Billie has not been above doing less charitable actions to feed that drug. BUT, Billie has been seen to slowly realise this herself since starting university. And that is of course a good thing…

        …except that slowly weaning herself of this drug has also turned out to be somewhat painful. All that dopamine and adrenaline produced as a head(?) cheerleader is no longer readily available. Coming to university must’ve been like going Cold Turkey for Billie. Perhaps it is small wonder she would seek out even a suicidal pact, booze-filled relationship; because even that somehow made it all more bearable…

        Anyway, what was my point again? I seem to have gotten into some serious rambling there.

        • Deanatay
          Deanatay
          August 13, 2016 at 8:49 am | #

          Were you trying to say that because Billie’s acts made her feel good about herself, that she didn’t really care about anyone? ‘Cause, man, that’s a whole pudding bag full of knives you’ve made for yourself, there.

          • Time Heist
            Time Heist
            August 13, 2016 at 10:38 am | #

            Just because a good deed makes someone feel good does not mean that good deed is purely self-serving…

            • Cerberus
              Cerberus
              August 13, 2016 at 1:07 pm | #

              This.

              Good deeds can make you feel good, but they are rarely taken solely to make the good deed performer feel good and aren’t really harmful if they are genuinely helpful and wanted help by the people receiving it.

              One of the big things that libertarians got wrong* about the “selfishness” of kind actions and aiding your fellow human.

              *Libertarians wrong about something? Shock and consternation.

          • Emperor Norton II
            Emperor Norton II
            August 13, 2016 at 5:06 pm | #

            That was not my intention, no. It was rather to show that Billie did not try to hide the fact that she was helping out people. In fact, she enjoyed being known as the helper.

            And note these words:

            “And therein lies the rub. She did those things for herself -as well as for others-.” So no, I never said she did not care about others. I thought my wording made that plain enough. Less plain is me saying that I have no problems with this, but it is there, in the same paragraph.

            After that came the rambling part.

    • Fart Captor
      Fart Captor
      August 13, 2016 at 12:57 am | #

      Sadly, I think Joyce still doesn’t know about Becky’s mom. Hank wouldn’t have gotten chance to tell her, since Becky was there the whole time, and she obviously didn’t want to talk about it.

    • Adam Black
      Adam Black
      August 13, 2016 at 2:26 am | #

      She has Joyce’s smile right now. Joyce acted worse when Billie was upset.

      Christian Home schooled = poor boundaries . Its a theme of the comic.
      Plus Joyce introduced Billie as her best Xtian friend in College.
      Billie gave her a room when she was homeless. Plus the lesbian connection.
      These are all good reasons for her to feel attached.

      • Leorale
        Leorale
        August 13, 2016 at 5:02 am | #

        Someday we’ll find it
        The lesbian connection
        The lovers, the dreamers, and me

      • Cerberus
        Cerberus
        August 13, 2016 at 1:08 pm | #

        That’s also a big piece. Neither Becky or Joyce have the greatest of boundaries.

    • Heavensrun
      Heavensrun
      August 13, 2016 at 12:15 pm | #

      Kind of aside from your core point, but she met Ruthless twice that I recall. Once in the hall and then again at Joyce’s party.

  31. Bagge
    Bagge
    August 13, 2016 at 12:41 am | #

    Awww, Becky, you so adorable. You can’t keep her from dying by just staring at her.

    …but she doesn’t know any other way. This is literary the best Becky can come up with to stop her friend from dying.

    KRNG, OK, my heart just broke.

    • Cerberus
      Cerberus
      August 13, 2016 at 1:10 pm | #

      The worst part of this is it’s probably at least partially because Billie mentioned Ruth was under observation.

      Like, to Becky, she doesn’t know how to stop this, but the fancy doctor scientist ladies think that being “under observation” can help stop a suicidal person from killing themselves, so damnitt, Becky MacIntyre will rise to that challenge and observe the heck out of Billie so that she doesn’t die.

      It’s the most tragic pun.

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        August 13, 2016 at 10:08 pm | #

        No, that would be the pun that uncharacteristic good taste and sensitivity to others has kept me from posting but which refuses to leave my brain.

        OUT FOUL DEMON! OUT!

  32. Thomas
    Thomas
    August 13, 2016 at 12:42 am | #

    Billie thinks she doesn’t deserve *all the hugs*, but she does.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      August 13, 2016 at 12:50 am | #

      Billie think everyone would be better of not hugging her. BECKY WILL PROVE HER WRONG!!!

      • Some1
        Some1
        August 13, 2016 at 1:30 am | #

        I hope that Mary is defeated by hugs

        Mary: Release me from your comforting grip.

        Becky: You’re just lonely.

        Mary: I am not, and you will release me!

        Joyce: Group hug!

        Mary: noooooooo!

        • Bagge
          Bagge
          August 13, 2016 at 1:36 am | #

          Sounds more like Sarah!

          • Disloyal Subject
            Disloyal Subject
            August 13, 2016 at 2:54 am | #

            Joyce declared a group hug.
            Would YOU argue with her?

        • Reltzik
          Reltzik
          August 13, 2016 at 9:55 am | #

          “I am being assaulted by a vile satanic lesbian!”

          …. seriously, hugs are great, but ask first if it’s not someone you’re on established hugging-terms with.

          • de Combys
            de Combys
            August 13, 2016 at 12:12 pm | #

            I disagree. If someone *asks* me if I want a hug in a non-joyful situation, I’d say no in almost every case. If they simply initiate it though, I’d probably tense up at first but it would eventually help me relax.

            • Reltzik
              Reltzik
              August 13, 2016 at 7:56 pm | #

              Okay, fine, MAYBE someone we know reacts like de Combys. Debatable. But in general, no. Me, I tense up and DON’T untense, unless it’s someone I’m on hugging terms with. The awkward and feeling of mild violation just sticks with me all day, along with the sense that people aren’t respecting my desire for distance. If someone’s hugged me without consent, I tend to avoid them in the future.

              • Disloyal Subject
                Disloyal Subject
                August 17, 2016 at 2:54 am | #

                And then there’s people who react… violently to being touched nonconsensually. I once saw a tourist in Florida break a man’s wrist when the latter walked up and wordlessly pressed a massager into his back as a demonstration of its effectiveness.

          • Cerberus
            Cerberus
            August 13, 2016 at 1:11 pm | #

            Seeking consent (and not badgering them for it) is always best practice.

            • Woobie
              Woobie
              August 13, 2016 at 3:47 pm | #

              At a funeral, every time someone hugged me or said something comforting made me go into full cry mode all over again. But how can I be upset at them?

              • Nightsbridge
                Nightsbridge
                August 13, 2016 at 11:04 pm | #

                Easily.

                • Woobie
                  Woobie
                  August 14, 2016 at 12:35 am | #

                  They meant well.

    • Cerberus
      Cerberus
      August 13, 2016 at 1:12 pm | #

      Not just all. Quick, someone find extra hugs hiding under the couch cushions so we can get that little bit extra she needs.

  33. Heavensrun
    Heavensrun
    August 13, 2016 at 12:56 am | #

    That is not how therapy works, Billie.

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      August 13, 2016 at 1:01 am | #

      It isn’t, and therapy of your own volition is way, way better. But, if Billie gets a good therapist, the therapist can encourage Billie to define what she would like to get out of it, they can try to make it useful. In this case, first step is getting Billie in the door!

      • Cerberus
        Cerberus
        August 13, 2016 at 1:17 pm | #

        I’m actually super excited to see the therapy, because Billie and Ruth are probably gonna be super antagonistic about it to start with (well, at least Billie, because she’s still majorly in denial that she has any sort of problem, because to her high school mind that she’s strangled in the campus parking lot, problems are for losers).

        And I’m curious to see if the therapist is decent and gets her to talk more about her stuff in a helpful way. And I kinda want them to be, because I’d love to see this be a hook for a lot of the cast to start dipping their toe in the therapy waters (with good experiences and bad). I mean, we’ll still have lots of pain and drama, because therapy doesn’t actually fix all problems in a day and make it so people don’t also have to do the long and hard activities of learning how to function with their realities, but we’ll see the hard work of them becoming people who can more fully function and do that hard processing.

        • Spencer
          Spencer
          August 13, 2016 at 7:39 pm | #

          There’s honestly a part of me wondering if time away from Billie in the care of a professional will be the push for Ruth that Billie never could be.

          Billie, for all her intent, wasn’t going to fix Ruth (this is not her fault, obviously). You could make a convincing argument that it was Billie declaring the both of them poison that pushed Ruth into drinking again.

          Billie doesn’t think she has a problem. Like Amber, she’s fine admitting that she’s a terrible garbage human being without going into specifics about it or admitting that it’s a thing she can pull herself out of. She’s not getting therapy to deal with also being suicidally depressed, she’s being forced into getting talked at, when obviously she is not the one with the problem, and what she needs to do is go back into Ruth’s room and hold hands until they finally decide to kill themselves.

  34. ubertenorman
    ubertenorman
    August 13, 2016 at 1:05 am | #

    So, uh, I took the title “Stock” to be related to the alt text about a watched pot (like chicken stock?) and I was confused.

    • LynziGraye
      LynziGraye
      August 13, 2016 at 10:22 am | #

      Nope, I think it’s a reference to the phrase “laughing stock” from the first panel.

      • Time Heist
        Time Heist
        August 13, 2016 at 10:39 am | #

        TBH knowing Willis it could be a pun.

        • de Combys
          de Combys
          August 13, 2016 at 12:13 pm | #

          Yeah I think it’s both.

  35. Orion Fury
    Orion Fury
    August 13, 2016 at 1:15 am | #

    Becky…

    /hugs

  36. Bagge
    Bagge
    August 13, 2016 at 1:17 am | #

    Walky fussing over Billie is heartwrenching. He has no idea how to support her but he tires as good as he can.

    …much like Becky, come to think of it.

    • Disloyal Subject
      Disloyal Subject
      August 13, 2016 at 2:54 am | #

      They’re kindred souls.
      FRRRrrt.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      August 13, 2016 at 8:57 am | #

      It’s been mentioned a few times here, that intent can mean a LOT to a depressed person. Even a bumbling fool can make a person feel better, if he means well.

      • de Combys
        de Combys
        August 13, 2016 at 12:05 pm | #

        Yeah, since after all the important thing when you’re having such dark thoughts is that it gets out and taken seriously. The details don’t matter so much.

    • Cerberus
      Cerberus
      August 13, 2016 at 1:18 pm | #

      He’s Walkying it real right, right here. And that’s hella touching.

  37. TOD
    TOD
    August 13, 2016 at 1:20 am | #

    I am so heartbroken for Becky right now.

    • Her.
      Her.
      August 13, 2016 at 2:42 am | #

      me too

  38. Reflex76
    Reflex76
    August 13, 2016 at 2:20 am | #

    This punchline manages to be both funny, and horribly depressing; quite the achievement.

    • Emperor Norton II
      Emperor Norton II
      August 13, 2016 at 3:13 am | #

      That describes roughly half of the DoA strips, doesn’t it?

      Willis still needs to up the percentage to get past Something Positive, though.

  39. Mara
    Mara
    August 13, 2016 at 2:23 am | #

    Is nobody else worried about Billie saying: “Apparently, I’m not ‘at risk’ enough”?
    Like she disagrees?
    Or might do something about appearances to get closer to Ruth again?

    • Rutee
      Rutee
      August 13, 2016 at 3:27 am | #

      I’m not worried about her doing something to get closer to Ruth (Since she already made it clear that was off the table), but it does seem possible that she may do something. Alternately she’s bitter.

    • Time Heist
      Time Heist
      August 13, 2016 at 10:42 am | #

      I don’t think she would do something worse to get close to Ruth – as we’ve established, the doctors want to keep them seperate, so if Ruth was more “at-risk” they might actually deny her visits in case they try to do ‘something’ together. But I think, as a sufferer of depression and suicidal thoughts, that there’s that lingering voice at the back of her mind that says “am I not worthy of your help?” With the sense of inadequacy that Billie must be feeling right now, it probably hurts.

      • Cerberus
        Cerberus
        August 13, 2016 at 1:22 pm | #

        Yeah, that was how I read it. And it’s one of those things that you tend to cling to and internalize when you’re suicidal all the time.

        Like, oh, the doctors said (actually a thing about being suicidal, but seeming safe enough to not be sectioned), so that actually means that even they don’t think I’m actually really suicidal, so this must mean I’m making everything dramatic like my parents said. Fuck that, time to give in to the dark thoughts.

        Hell, one’s brain finds all sorts of tricks to fuck with you when you’re depressed, getting you to believe that support networks are all just inches away from leaving you at any time, that statements of support are irritations you’re best avoiding, and that the future looks a helluva lot more depressing and hopeless than it actually is.

        • Regalli
          Regalli
          August 13, 2016 at 10:46 pm | #

          Especially with that, “augh, useless therapy” thing.

          (Other hopes: Billie has her first therapy appointment and the counselor is actually helpful and also validating.)

    • de Combys
      de Combys
      August 13, 2016 at 12:02 pm | #

      There are lists that professionals use to determine your risk of comitting suicide. It’s normally a very slow process that takes many years. So you can think about suicide a lot and hate yourself but not really be at risk for comitting the act. Hence why they told her that she wasn’t in immediate danger but still needed therapy.

  40. BenRG
    BenRG
    August 13, 2016 at 2:37 am | #

    I think that the shocking thing for Billie will be to learn that she was only ever an isolated and despised figure in her own head. Except with Mary but Mary despises anyone and anything that is not so similar to her as to be hypothetically usable as a mirror, so she doesn’t really count.

    The important thing will be to find the right balance between support and respect for independence so that Billie does not feel stifled and even almost institutionalised. For example, what Becky’s doing is just creepy.

    Meanwhile, something tells me that we’re not going to be seeing Ruth again for a while, unless Willis does another time skip.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      August 13, 2016 at 2:54 am | #

      That’s very true. Most other people regard her with awe (in the case of two certain doofuses), pity and at worst annoyance.

      • Disloyal Subject
        Disloyal Subject
        August 13, 2016 at 2:58 am | #

        I think Alice’s words on their impromptu reunion left quite an impression. It was around then that her arrogance keeled over, but her confidence went with it.

        • Bagge
          Bagge
          August 13, 2016 at 3:15 am | #

          Yes, that rejection hurt a lot.

          • Cerberus
            Cerberus
            August 13, 2016 at 1:26 pm | #

            Yup, it was even her central argument for entering into the sexy lesbian suicide pact with Ruth, because in her eyes if she was with poison, then only by being in a relationship with someone who was also poison (and in her mind being a depressed alcoholic queer woman equalled poison) could she actually be with someone without destroying them.

            And yeah, I’m also kinda holding out hope that the little Queer Underground that’s been forming around Becky will also surreptitiously reach out to Billie as well and try and show support. Especially since it’s also gotten out that Mary was blackmailing them about their relationship.

            • Regalli
              Regalli
              August 13, 2016 at 10:45 pm | #

              Yeah, at the very least I’m expecting after she was taken to the health center/”wait, Ruthless? YOU and Ruthless? That is… an interesting romantic choice there.” at least one person’s going to have some questions. Hopefully even phrased in such a way they don’t immediately set Billie off.

  41. Keulan
    Keulan
    August 13, 2016 at 3:06 am | #

    Too many feels…

  42. Teddae
    Teddae
    August 13, 2016 at 3:43 am | #

    oh becky your eyes they’re giving me feels ;-;

  43. Tacos
    Tacos
    August 13, 2016 at 3:48 am | #

    I feel so bad for Becky. She’s already had to deal with her Mom attempting suicide and now her friend who gave her a place to stay when she had nowhere to go is in a similar situation.

  44. Treecreature
    Treecreature
    August 13, 2016 at 4:00 am | #

    So, I have been searching my feelings aboutnBecky for a whilemand I have reached a conclusion. I don’t like her. I sympathise with her and I think she is completely undeserving of all the unfair shit that have been happening to her, but I also think she have a tendenxy to forget about others, a bit and not think about how her actions affect them. I think this is mainly due to her being a rather excitited person, combined with her dealing with all the shit that have been happening to her. She is not a bad person, she have gone through a lot of shit, but I just don’t like her, mostly because she reminds me of people I know, who do stupid things at the expense of everyone else. I hope this long thing wasn’t as confusing for you as it was for me to write

  45. Charles Phipps
    Charles Phipps
    August 13, 2016 at 5:57 am | #

    It’s kind of sad to view it from the perspective Becky thinks of Billie as an awesome friend while Billie wants to help but doesn’t quite really like Becky.

  46. Darkoneko
    Darkoneko
    August 13, 2016 at 6:21 am | #

    “…unlike my mom”

  47. Deanatay
    Deanatay
    August 13, 2016 at 9:07 am | #

    The Shark named Billie has just acquired a perky, red-haired remora.

  48. strictly speaking
    strictly speaking
    August 13, 2016 at 9:51 am | #

    Yay for a reference to the quantum zeno paradox!

  49. Bet on it
    Bet on it
    August 13, 2016 at 11:37 am | #

    Hahaha aha h this is the most I’ve ever identified with a single comic strip. I… Definitely have been Becky before

  50. Aria
    Aria
    August 13, 2016 at 12:44 pm | #

    I don’t think Billie is creeped out nearly as much as she just feels super awkward and guilty that she still hasn’t found a place for Becky to stay.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      August 13, 2016 at 1:05 pm | #

      Ouch, yeah, I really hope that’s what Billie takes from Becky’s attention but in the self loathing state of mind she is in, that might very well be it.

      What I shout: SHE WANT’S YOU TO NOT DIE, BILLIE, EVERYTHING ELSE IS SECONDARY.

      What Billie hears: You have let everyone down and they would be better off without you. Also, you are fat .

      • Cerberus
        Cerberus
        August 13, 2016 at 1:27 pm | #

        Plus, given her state, I’d say she’s very willing to take the floor and restlessly worry all night long.

  51. Cerberus
    Cerberus
    August 13, 2016 at 1:38 pm | #

    Comic Reactions:

    Panels 1 and 2: First up, Walky here is Walkying it in all the right ways. Like I had really mixed feelings about him the last couple of strips, but here is him at his best and shows what he’s really capable when he’s knocked out of his “I’m too cool for school and emotions” High School dude pose. Like, he ran to check up on her and has probably been nervously glancing over at the door this whole time to make sure he didn’t miss her coming out. He cares so much for his little sister-like-person and it’s heart-melting.

    Also major props for asking about Ruth even though he doesn’t like her and is probably still stewing over her because he knows she’s important to Billie. A+ brothering.

    And oof, Billie.

    First up, yay therapy. No really, I’m really excited to see some of the characters starting therapy and getting on that road to having a little less noise cluttering up their attempts to acknowledge and process their stuff. And also her having some anti-depressants hopefully soon so that eventually she won’t have to rely on booze as her only coping strategy.

    Also, I think therapy tends to go under-utilized in works like these, because people seem to labor under the misperception that they magically make you better faster and don’t actually begin a long drama-filled process of confronting a lot of one’s darkest demons and slowly building a life which is filled with dramatic potential.

    Second, *all the hugs offered* to Billie for that last dig at herself, thinking that her not being put under observation is a statement denying her depression and suicidal ideation. And because she can’t support her loved one after finally reconnecting while she goes through her long dark teatime of the soul.

    That’s how depression often kicks one’s ass, by constantly undermining one’s self-esteem and making it easier to internalize everything and use it as a tool to fuck one’s self up later.

    Third, fuck the fucking fuckers who use things like admitted depression or queerness to target someone. I see it enough against friends of mine who are being harassed online and I’ve been through it myself as someone who doesn’t shy away from talking about my queerness and struggles with depression. It happens too damn often, often enough to correctly assume she’s probably going to be whispered about and may even be more targeted by the likes of Mary or Mike (who knows her secret).

  52. Cerberus
    Cerberus
    August 13, 2016 at 1:56 pm | #

    Comic Reactions, the second half:

    Oh, Becky…

    Hands clasped like she’s trying to literally keep herself from exploding apart or like she’s praying to her lesbian gods that she isn’t too late to keep her from dying. Eyes locked and shiny like she’s inches away from crying, rictus grin holding the thread-bare fraying rope tightly across the collapse that’s so eminent.

    You know that behind those eyes she’s playing back every ghost of her mother, discovering her, going to hospital, finding out she discovered her too late, being yelled at to not talk about it with her best friend by the abusive dad she no longer had even a little protection from. And it’s ripping her apart.

    And Billie, legitimately unnerved, largely because to her, without context, this feels like a confirmation of her greatest fears (oh, yes, let’s all stare at the suicidal freak, why don’t we, like I’m a rat in a cage). In high school, she probably had to deal with stares and whispers behind her back a bit, especially after she crashed her car and had her cheerleading role stripped. More so, if Alice was also in the car and it was rumored that they were together.

    And that last panel. Becky is broken here. Her smile is gone, her shoulders have fully hunched, her boundaries non-existent. She’s hit her physical and emotional limit right there and it’s understandable why. She found her mom too late, a mom who committed suicide, and so she can’t go through that again. She just can’t take that, so she’s going to try, she’s going to do all the things she feels she should have done back then and damnitt this time she’s gonna succeed.

    Just vainly following the idea that “being under observation” somehow helps, and hoping that this is how you do that and it’ll be enough. Because Billie was kind to her. Billie gave her haircut money. Billie was the one of the first queer girls she ever met. Billie gave her a roof and a room and a bed when she really needed them.

    And in her eyes, Billie never returned to her room. She may not even know that Billie was blackmailed. So in her eyes, Billie gave her this awesome bed and said she wouldn’t need any of her space anymore, and then went off and now both Billie and her gf turned out to be in a suicide pact together, planning to die (or at least that’s how it’s probably going in Becky’s fears).

    So in her mind, it’s someone given her everything to have nothing left to hang onto when they die. And that’s gotta haunt her. Because you know based on those flashbacks panels that Bonnie was probably the type of suicidal person who would have made real sure she gave Becky one last great day before going through with her suicide. Taking her out someplace fun and awesome. Letting her feel super loved, so that Bonnie could check out with few regrets.

    So to Becky, this probably feels like her mom all over again. Like all that kindness was just one last goodbye and she completely missed it all, just like last time, and this time, she nearly lost another person she cared about because she was so hyperfocused on making sure Joyce didn’t become the person to repeat her mom’s path*.

    *I’m suddenly realizing that Becky’s insistence on coming along with Joyce and not wanting her to go off on her own didn’t just have to do with her dealing with PTSD and knowing that, but also fearing that Joyce’s sudden change in disposition was a sign that she was at risk for killing herself (a sign that may have indeed been the case if Joyce had gone home and had faced her mom wanting to pull her out of college with no Becky to defuse).

    Becky has been through far too much in the last month and a half, I’m hoping her dino gf can cuddle her sometime this early week and let her know that she’s valued and important too and that she’s allowed to break down and cry if she needs it.

    • pjeseb
      pjeseb
      August 13, 2016 at 5:41 pm | #

      You take a funny comic strip and make it heart-rendingly sad.

      • Cerberus
        Cerberus
        August 13, 2016 at 6:38 pm | #

        I think Willis does at least 90% of that job for me.

        • Spencer
          Spencer
          August 13, 2016 at 7:51 pm | #

          The other 10 is commenters relating painful life stories because they see it reflected in the strip.

          • StClair
            StClair
            August 13, 2016 at 11:42 pm | #

            “And this one time, at band camp, I tried to kill myself.”

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      August 13, 2016 at 10:42 pm | #

      Seriously, SO GLAD Billie’s getting therapy and Ruth’s being treated seriously but ugh, all the Becky hugs. All the Billie hugs. All the telling Mary to fuck off. All the SUDDEN REALIZATION OF OH BECKY OH JOYCE AUGH HUG EVERYONE.

  53. Jhon
    Jhon
    August 13, 2016 at 10:07 pm | #

    Here’s another $20. Now GO AWAY

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      August 14, 2016 at 12:41 am | #

      +1

  54. Tomas
    Tomas
    August 14, 2016 at 12:58 am | #

    That’s not how Schrodinger’s Cat works! Those stupid home-schooling science text books get everything wrong!

  55. Jen
    Jen
    August 16, 2016 at 10:38 am | #

    My heart is breaking for Becky here. 🙁

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