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by David M Willis on November 16, 2017 at 12:01 am
  • 01 - Face the Strange

└ Tags: beatrice, jennifer, lucy, nash, rose

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  1. CandidCanid
    CandidCanid
    November 16, 2017 at 12:05 am | #

    I wouldn’t call myself a chef, but sometimes I even go a little crazy and heat my noodles on a cooktop instead of a microwave.

    • Durandal_1707
      Durandal_1707
      November 16, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

      However, I’m not sure I’d really refer to instant ramen as “non-preprepared.”

      • Ryan
        Ryan
        November 16, 2017 at 1:00 am | #

        I agree. It’s non-prepared, but it’s not non-prepreprepared.

        • Ryan
          Ryan
          November 16, 2017 at 1:01 am | #

          Oops, I did one too many prefixes.

          • efin98
            efin98
            November 16, 2017 at 4:26 am | #

            No, given that some of the wraps use pre-cooked meats and of course the chicken and tuna salads are from cans that’s actually pretty accurate if you think about it!

      • Joshua Kronengold
        Joshua Kronengold
        November 16, 2017 at 2:16 am | #

        Not if you just shove it into the microwave, dump the packet over it, and eat.

        If you put your own spices and veggies into the broth, of course it is.

        That said, if the standard is “block of cheese” for non-prepared food, then ramen is at least as good.

        • Paul
          Paul
          November 16, 2017 at 2:45 am | #

          Pro tip for student cooking: If the water from your hot tap is really hot, you can use it on your pot noodle without having to borrow a kettle!

          • efin98
            efin98
            November 16, 2017 at 4:28 am | #

            …perfect gravatar for that tip!

          • Hoodiecrow
            Hoodiecrow
            November 16, 2017 at 5:42 am | #

            Health tip: hot water leaches metal from the pipes (mainly copper) and also spends more time in the hot water system waiting to be used (while cold water is more like fresh from the supply). If you see the sludge that gets periodically flushed from the hot water tanks you might lose the taste for using hot water for cooking.

            • ditrysia
              ditrysia
              November 16, 2017 at 6:52 am | #

              Oh god thank you. It’s bothered me my whole life knowing there was probably a reason we actually heat water for cooking/brewing, but not knowing why.

            • N0083rp00F
              N0083rp00F
              November 16, 2017 at 9:17 am | #

              All to true BUT most modern – inexpensive – plumbing installs use plastic pipe and if done right the pipe is rated for hot water use.
              The good stuff is PFE lined and does not use glue or other solvents, so no worries about leachates. Concentrated contaminants already in the water supply is something else entirely.

              • Jason
                Jason
                November 16, 2017 at 5:59 pm | #

                Yup, here at least only older piping systems use copper- I believe all modern ones have to meet certain standards which includes the hot water being safe for consumption.

            • Deathjavu
              Deathjavu
              November 17, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

              P sure there’s still lead in a lot of piping in the US as well, which hot water pulls from the piping.

              At least, that’s what the fridge magnet said.

        • Clif
          Clif
          November 16, 2017 at 2:46 am | #

          I just want to know why the Cheese didn’t get a tag.

          • SgtWadeyWilson
            SgtWadeyWilson
            November 16, 2017 at 6:37 am | #

            There’s no room for the cheese slices.

            • SgtWadeyWilson
              SgtWadeyWilson
              November 16, 2017 at 6:45 am | #

              Hmm… I think I misremembered an obscure Buffy quote.
              http://i40.tinypic.com/dpbj0j.gif
              Not cool, brain. Not. Cool.

    • Bruceski
      Bruceski
      November 16, 2017 at 12:16 am | #

      Does “put meat in countertop oven for 25-45 minutes, remove, eat” count? Because that’s about the extent of my bachelor chow cooking. Sometimes I get fancy and roast potatoes at the same time.

      • Reltzik
        Reltzik
        November 16, 2017 at 12:20 am | #

        Yup, sorry, you’ve gone too far.

        You are beyond the chef event horizon and now you can never escape.

        You’ve now become fully embroiled.

        *flees for dear punning life*

        • Roborat
          Roborat
          November 16, 2017 at 2:55 pm | #

          I really hope you get roasted for that one.

          • Goshii
            Goshii
            November 16, 2017 at 6:26 pm | #

            That was a braisen pun Roborat.

      • Undrave
        Undrave
        November 16, 2017 at 12:22 am | #

        Try slow cooking in instant onion soup. It makes wonders and usually smells really nice. Just put half the water recommanded on the box. I’ve only done that in a proper oven but it might still work on the countertop. Otherwise you can always just learn how to make a croc monsieur (i.e. ham on bread with cheese melted ontop at a broil setting :p )

        • N0083rp00F
          N0083rp00F
          November 16, 2017 at 9:22 am | #

          Crock pot with real onions, Tetra Pack stock, and whatever herbs and salts you want to add. Low and slow will perfume the room but cook things to perfection. May have to add extra water if too strong/salty.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        November 16, 2017 at 2:10 am | #

        Seriously, go buy a slow cooker. It’s a lazy, delicious way to cook, because 99% of slow cooker recipes can be summarized as “dump ingredients in crock pot, turn on heating element, ignore for 6-8 hours”. It’s best to get one with a programmable timer, so it can turn itself down to ‘keep warm’ after the appropriate cook time has passed.

        Also, go binge read Cooking Comically. The chili recipes and Trust Fall Chicken are good, and the format and presentation really help break the process down.

        • Egg
          Egg
          November 16, 2017 at 9:07 am | #

          Personally, even that is too much commitment in terms of deciding what I’m going to be eating. If it can’t be whipped up last-minute to suit the dietary whim of the evening, it’s too much!

          (Rice is an exception, because rice is plain and comforting and goes with everything.)

        • Forrest Davis
          Forrest Davis
          November 17, 2017 at 12:48 pm | #

          Darn you Needfuldoer, darn you straight to heck! (staying family-friendly here)

          Now I have yet another good source of odd-end recipes to dig through when I’m looking for something different to throw on the table… I’m making the Colombian Arepas tonight!

      • Tawdry Quirks
        Tawdry Quirks
        November 16, 2017 at 2:58 am | #

        Do you have an instant read meat thermometer? I highly recommend getting one, because they take all of the guesswork out of determining if your meat is really cooked all the way through.

        Don’t get a non-instant analog one that you’re supposed to leave on the piece of meat the whole time it cooks…those are prone to spontaneously blowing up in the oven. For that reason alone, an instant read digital is easily worth the $20+ you’ll have to spend on a decent one. (Good lower end options include OXO’s digital instant read and ThermoWork’s ThermoPop.)

      • Remmington Steele
        Remmington Steele
        November 16, 2017 at 2:36 pm | #

        I’ve no beef with that.

    • ozzi
      ozzi
      November 16, 2017 at 4:28 am | #

      Pah I eat your meal plan points for breakfast. I used to get a delivery from the local Walmart (in the uk Walmart delivers) every 3 months as a student. My housemates used to think I was planning for WWZ. I still ate a different cooked meal every night.

  2. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    November 16, 2017 at 12:05 am | #

    dawgs, microwaves are stupid cheap, especially if you utilize the Poorcraft method (p. 25)

    also I don’t think I’ve ever *microwaved* ramen

    I did once buy a log of ground beef and essentially make ground beef stew in a pot by just stirring it (I don’t have patience for fancy cooking)

    • Undrave
      Undrave
      November 16, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

      I have microwaved instant noodles, but ramen in a block in a packet? I did make some on stove top. Usually had some precooked frozen shrimp I would thaw out and put in a pan with butter and garlic salt. I’d prepare the ramen on the stop, and put just a touch of shrimp seasoning on top. Not a lot because that stuff is full of sodium. Eat with the shrimps and it was really good…

      But for some reason the frozen shrimp I used to use started to taste terrible DX so I don’t do that recipe anymore 🙁 The shrimps were from CostCo so the big bag was really cheap. Also made an easy snack… But after a while they started to taste really…powdery. I dunno how to explained. And it wasn’t just 1 bad bag.

    • Foxhack
      Foxhack
      November 16, 2017 at 2:07 am | #

      “also I don’t think I’ve ever *microwaved* ramen”

      There are special plates now where you just dump the ramen block, the powder, and water and then you nuke it. It’s supposed to come out right, but I don’t trust them.

      I mean I like my ramen kinda chewy but I’m afraid it would just melt the plate or something.

      • Joshua Kronengold
        Joshua Kronengold
        November 16, 2017 at 2:18 am | #

        Glass bowls are great. Just saying.

        That said, I mostly make ramen on a stove top, just because it’s faster and cheaper (with a gas stove).

      • merbrat
        merbrat
        November 16, 2017 at 2:26 am | #

        Rectangular silicon container. There is one for Mac n cheese, too. (fill-line is different, because of different contents)

      • Jamie
        Jamie
        November 16, 2017 at 2:37 am | #

        They do fine. Not great; just fine. I find them impossible to clean satisfactorily.

        • Ansel
          Ansel
          November 16, 2017 at 3:39 am | #

          My silicone cookware is an ass to clean too, despite how it seems like it should be easier than my other, generally older, cookware.

          • Inahc
            Inahc
            November 16, 2017 at 6:09 am | #

            And silicone bakeware makes things taste weird. :/

            • Bathymetheus
              Bathymetheus
              November 16, 2017 at 11:18 am | #

              Hey, Inahc = “Dune” reference?

      • Inahc
        Inahc
        November 16, 2017 at 6:07 am | #

        You, um, keep using that word…

        Plates are flat. To make ramen you need a *bowl*.

      • DSL
        DSL
        November 16, 2017 at 7:51 am | #

        At the same dollar store at which you bought that piece of “special ramen cooker” crap that’s exactly the same as the “special mac-n-cheese cooker” or “special oatmeal cooker”, splurge (it might even cost the same or less) on a glass or microwave-safe ceramic bowl big enough to hold the ramen and use that. Easier to clean and it will last.

    • Lena
      Lena
      November 16, 2017 at 2:16 am | #

      They have ramen in cups here that you just fill with water up till the line and then microwave.

      • Kamino Neko
        Kamino Neko
        November 16, 2017 at 3:32 am | #

        … That’s weird. Here, the kind in cups is meant to be filled from a kettle, not filled with cold water and nuked.

        • Ansel
          Ansel
          November 16, 2017 at 3:40 am | #

          I have heard that in a lot of places in the states, electric kettles aren’t a common thing, so that might be the difference.

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            November 16, 2017 at 4:22 am | #

            They’re not. They take a long time to heat up on our typical 120v service. (We have 240v outlets, but they’re typically for large appliances like dryers and ranges.) It’s faster to just microwave hot or room temperature tap water.

            The closest thing you’ll find in most places in the states is a hot tap on those water dispensers that take the 5 gallon jugs.

        • Inahc
          Inahc
          November 16, 2017 at 6:22 am | #

          And here they come with instructions for both methods. 🙂

    • Kryss LaBryn
      Kryss LaBryn
      November 16, 2017 at 11:43 am | #

      Homemade Beef Barley Soup (or stew, depending on how much water you add):

      Take a big stewpot (ideally) or a saucepan. Pour a little water in, just enough to cover the bottom. Medium heat. Brown your ground beef in it (doing so in water rather than oil will break it down into smaller pieces which is nice for the soup). Add a little salt, pepper, Worcestershire Sauce, oregano, garlic (powdered, fresh, minced, whatever), and a big squirt of ketchup. Mix together. Add a bunch of water. Add a bunch of barley (I like pot barley but it doesn’t matter what kind. Note: Can substitute rice or what although brown rice would probably be nicest). Add a bunch of lentils (brown or green, whatever). If you got ’em, dice up and add carrots, onions, and/or green onions or leeks; if you don’t have ’em, no biggee. Cabbage (especially savoy cabbage, aka the wrinkly one) is also nice in there. Can add split dried peas if you like; they will take the most cooking. Do like a couple handfuls of each of the dried stuff and the carrots, maybe 1/4 to 1/2 an onion if you have one. Or leeks; leeks are nice. Toss in a bouillon cube if you’ve got one, whatever flavour, doesn’t matter.

      Bring it all to a boil over medium-high heat, stir, cover, and turn down to low, and let it quietly simmer at least two hours (three or more ideal, especially if you used the dried peas). Give it a stir occasionally and check if it needs more water. It’s done when the dried stuff is cooked through; don’t worry if any of it overcooks; the lentils, for example, break down into a mush and thicken it up nicely. Can substitute lentils completely if you don’t have the meat; may not need the ketchup in that case but will want to add another bouillon cube.

      Keeps for a few days in the fridge (will thicken up; you’ll need to add a little more water when you reheat or nuke it); freezes well. Cheap to make, easy to do as it’s literally just tossing stuff (mostly dried) into a pot and then stirring occasionally and ignoring it otherwise until it’s done. Very tasty. 🙂

      Serve with buttered bread or warm scones or crackers if you like.

      • Kryss LaBryn
        Kryss LaBryn
        November 16, 2017 at 11:46 am | #

        Beef “Stroganoff”: Brown ground beef. Add a can of cream of mushroom soup. Stir well. Serve over broad egg noodles (cooked in salted water; can add a bouillon cube to the water if you like), and with like heated canned peas or peas and carrots, if you like. Or, hell, drain the can and toss it right in with the meat and stir it in with the soup.

        Super simple, tasty, cheap comfort food. Reasonably healthy, as well.

        • Roborat
          Roborat
          November 16, 2017 at 3:03 pm | #

          Wouldn’t it work better if you put in the vegetables and not the can?

      • Kryss LaBryn
        Kryss LaBryn
        November 16, 2017 at 11:54 am | #

        Cock-a-leekie Soup: Again, super easy. Get a cheap cut of chicken (boneless skinless thighs works well, only need a few), dice, brown in oil in a pot. Add water, salt, chopped leeks, bouillon cube, and rice or barley (optional). Can add chopped green cabbage if you want to fill it out a bit, or add some chopped green onion at the end; but it’s not necessary. Fairly brothy soup, but nice on a cold day or if you’re feeling sick. You can toss in a little garlic if you like; a little curry powder just to add some complexity to the taste is nice too. Buttered bread or scones or what on the side are nice too.

        Again, cheap and easy; you don’t need to worry too much about proportions etc, just so long as it tastes good. I like to give it all a stir and then scoop some up on my wooden spoon and see if there seems to be a reasonably balanced mix of meat and leeks/cabbage/whatever in there.

        As an aside, green onions are less than a buck for a bunch; but they turn to green slime in the fridge really super fast, so don’t put them in there. Instead, take off any elastics, and put them in a glass of water on your window sill (in the kitchen, ideally), and they will sprout and last forever, and be ready whenever you want to snip a piece off. 😀 Well worth the 79 cents.

  3. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    November 16, 2017 at 12:05 am | #

    “Although I DO offer to buy her lots of sodas from the machine, ensuring she will be in there for at least the three minutes making microwave ramen takes. Sometimes I email her videos of waterfalls.”

  4. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    November 16, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

    Microwave girl for other Mary ?

    • showler
      showler
      November 16, 2017 at 3:35 am | #

      Given the nature of this dorm, if microwave girl is “other Mary” then she probably gets up and “goes for a pee” every time she sees Nash hanging around her door with a noodle packet.

  5. Undrave
    Undrave
    November 16, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

    Man now I want some cheddar or something…

    • Inahc
      Inahc
      November 16, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

      me too.
      luckily, tomorrow is grocery day. I will buy ALL the cheese! 🙂

      (…because it was already on the shopping list)

      • Undrave
        Undrave
        November 16, 2017 at 12:15 am | #

        Heh if I wait that long though I’ll probably get fancier cheese than that. There’s a local brie called ‘Cendré de Lune’ that is to DIE FOR! Sometimes when I don’t feel like cooking I grab a small baguette or something, that cheese and grape tomato. Or some other time I had some slices of salami or other types of dry sausages.

        Obviously it’s a little beyond a simple student’s budget.

        • missilentmurmur
          missilentmurmur
          November 16, 2017 at 1:09 am | #

          We have a fishy little store where all the stuff gets after it can’t legally be on a regular supermarket shelf. So it has an everchanging collection, but this is the only place I can afford goat cheese, usually at half price. And it is an adventure every time. Will I find some good cheese today? Who knows

      • ProfessorDetective
        ProfessorDetective
        November 16, 2017 at 8:22 am | #

        I always want Cheddar, but now I want it slightly more. Damnit, where’s my coat? I’m going to the store.

  6. Bagge
    Bagge
    November 16, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

    These people are all REBELS.

    • Undrave
      Undrave
      November 16, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

      Raw raw, fight the powah!

  7. Pablo360
    Pablo360
    November 16, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

    Okay, that is not okay, my opinion of Nash is decreasing

    You can’t just — you can’t just DO that! You don’t know what kind of allergies they have, and beyond that, you can’t just invade someone’s private space like that!

    /microrant

    • Dean
      Dean
      November 16, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

      /microwaverant

    • DT
      DT
      November 16, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

      I don’t get it, what do allergies have to do with using someone else’s microwave…

      • Doctor_Who
        Doctor_Who
        November 16, 2017 at 12:13 am | #

        I guess you could leave traces of food in there? I’ve never seen a microwave that maintained a clean ceiling for very long.

        • Bruceski
          Bruceski
          November 16, 2017 at 12:17 am | #

          Microwaves are like black socks. Never need to clean em.

        • Undrave
          Undrave
          November 16, 2017 at 12:18 am | #

          Which is why a microwave should be kept below eye level at all time. Filth you can’t see doesn’t exist :p

      • Indy
        Indy
        November 16, 2017 at 3:37 am | #

        I’ve got a friend with a severe allergy, and he can’t even eat food I’ve cooked in my kitchen. It *might* be fine, but he’s also said some of the worst reactions he’s ever had were from things where some cooking tool was allergen-adjacent, and technically “should be safe.”

        Especially if this person is the only one who’s bothered to get their own microwave – you should definitely make sure it’s okay before you just throw your own food in there willy nilly.

        I mean, Nash is a cartoon person and it’s just the punchline to a joke, all in fun, but it’s a really good point to keep in mind for the real world.

        • BaronPhD
          BaronPhD
          November 16, 2017 at 4:03 am | #

          If someone in your dorm had allergies that bad, you would know.

    • shikomekidommi
      shikomekidommi
      November 17, 2017 at 5:00 am | #

      If nothing else, that is living surprisingly dangerously. I know quite a few people who would flip out about you sneaking into their room to use their appliances without permission.

      Billie should probably lock her door whenever she’s not in her room, given the casual disregard for privacy and property shown here.

  8. Maveric1984
    Maveric1984
    November 16, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

    Wait… is there another deaf character in the room? Is she interpreting, or just a hand talker?

    • Amias
      Amias
      November 16, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

      She’s interpreting for Beatrice, I assumed.

      • Amias
        Amias
        November 16, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

        (Beatrice, who has made jokes about being Deaf.

        • Maveric1984
          Maveric1984
          November 16, 2017 at 9:07 am | #

          I guess I didn’t grok on the fact that she was deaf since she spoke (yes, I know not all deaf people are mute)

    • Scoops
      Scoops
      November 16, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

      The red-head, Beatrice?

      See here for example: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-8/01-face-the-strange/salacious/

    • Phil
      Phil
      November 16, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

      yea I think bottom left girl is deaf (she just stares for the entire stripes, I assume she’s looking at the hands)

    • drs
      drs
      November 16, 2017 at 12:13 am | #

      Both Nash and Beatrice were signing in http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-8/01-face-the-strange/salacious/

  9. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    November 16, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

    *plays the classical music Kraft used in their TV ads of the late Seventies/early Eighties on the hacked Muzak*

    • Khno
      Khno
      November 16, 2017 at 6:10 am | #

      Kraft – werk?

  10. Passchendaele
    Passchendaele
    November 16, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

    Cheddar: it keeps you sane ™.

  11. nightsbridge
    nightsbridge
    November 16, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

    She’s translating as they speak, isn’t she? That’s actually SUPER skilled, you can legit get a nice job doing that if you’re good at figuring that on the fly.

    • Undrave
      Undrave
      November 16, 2017 at 12:17 am | #

      Now I wonder what sign language of a Donald Trump speech looks like…

      • Dean
        Dean
        November 16, 2017 at 12:20 am | #

        It’s just one hand gesture at slightly below waist level.

      • Bruceski
        Bruceski
        November 16, 2017 at 12:21 am | #

        Right hand palm toward you, fingers curled into a very loose fist, move it up and down for the duration of the speech..

        • Undrave
          Undrave
          November 16, 2017 at 12:24 am | #

          I would also expect meaningless gesticulation and a few flipping of the birds in there… What is sign language for ‘bullshit’? :p

          • Leorale
            Leorale
            November 16, 2017 at 12:30 am | #

            It’s a funny sign! If I learned it right, you make horns with one hand, your arm is like the length of a bull’s body, and the other hand poops.

            • Undrave
              Undrave
              November 16, 2017 at 12:35 am | #

              Hahahahaha awesome.

            • Leorale
              Leorale
              November 16, 2017 at 12:35 am | #

              Teehee: https://tenor.com/view/bullshit-sign-language-asl-signing-american-sign-language-gif-9262794

              • BBCC
                BBCC
                November 16, 2017 at 12:57 am | #

                We’ve seen Marcie make that sign! 😀

            • Gandalf007
              Gandalf007
              November 16, 2017 at 1:12 am | #

              I knew that looked (sounded?) familiar… because it’s been featured in DoA already!

              (I just looked through 5 pages of comics tagged Marcie…go figure, the comic in question has an obvious title and I didn’t need to try to read the thumbnails!)

              • Leorale
                Leorale
                November 16, 2017 at 5:34 am | #

                Nice!

      • Foxhack
        Foxhack
        November 16, 2017 at 2:10 am | #

        Sign interpreters don’t do Donald Trump.

        Hell, translators CAN’T EVEN HANDLE HIS STUPID SPEECHES.

        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/06/trump-translation-interpreters

        • Leorale
          Leorale
          November 16, 2017 at 4:25 am | #

          The rest of the world gets a coherent president, but we don’t? No fair!

          • ozzi
            ozzi
            November 16, 2017 at 4:39 am | #

            Ill just leave Putin here. Watch him hes a gang……president.

      • Alex Denton
        Alex Denton
        November 16, 2017 at 3:32 am | #

        After two sentences it’s probably something like that :

        https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipMFgDNZkvYOjt-VcDkm8nhRtXwdajYGAWV6j2OJ/photo/AF1QipMFpw-RG1YtFBoE3SA4rcwq1f3LD28nrVLYksvP

      • K the Nerd
        K the Nerd
        November 16, 2017 at 8:31 pm | #

        An example of Trump translated: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qL1un6NPZA

  12. Kay
    Kay
    November 16, 2017 at 12:10 am | #

    Oh my.

  13. Architex
    Architex
    November 16, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

    Gotta love a cameo for The Cheese.

    • Undrave
      Undrave
      November 16, 2017 at 12:29 am | #

      Kinda sad there’s no Cheese tag.

      • Clif
        Clif
        November 16, 2017 at 5:11 pm | #

        I know. Right.

  14. Katrika
    Katrika
    November 16, 2017 at 12:13 am | #

    Is Nash signing or just fidgeting? Oh! Beatrice is deaf, isn’t she? Nash is translating what everyone is saying so Beatrice can follow the conversation. Cool!

  15. Ravian
    Ravian
    November 16, 2017 at 12:20 am | #

    These people don’t have a common area microwave? What’s even the point of a common area if you can’t even cook anything in it?

    Maybe I’m biased because I started saving money by skipping the meal plans as soon as we were allowed to. (AKA sophmore year.) but a common area microwave does not at all seem like an unreasonable luxury. (Also my dorm specifically forbid students from having their own microwaves anyway due to electrical concerns. Mini-fridges were alright, but no microwaves.)

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      November 16, 2017 at 12:25 am | #

      I’m sure the EE students had some “projects” in their rooms involving magnetrons.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      November 16, 2017 at 2:21 am | #

      Aren’t “meal plans” mostly to give peace of mind to the parents, so their kids have to spend that money on food? I remember the dining halls would let you pay with good old cash if you wanted to eat there. They were even open to the public at the time.

      • Egg
        Egg
        November 16, 2017 at 9:16 am | #

        Skipping the meal plan as in not signing up for it at the beginning of the year at all, I assume. Not “sign up for meal plan and then just not eat”, which presumably would save nothing.

  16. OnyxIdol
    OnyxIdol
    November 16, 2017 at 12:22 am | #

    These girls seem nice. Good for Billie.

  17. Leorale
    Leorale
    November 16, 2017 at 12:25 am | #

    Did you know: the ASL for microwave is your pointer finger doing a li’l crawl, it’s a tiny wave

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      November 16, 2017 at 12:28 am | #

      (Well, it’s not the official sign, it’s just a common pun. But still.)

    • Pl0x
      Pl0x
      November 16, 2017 at 6:47 am | #

      Dangit. I fell for that.

  18. Beef
    Beef
    November 16, 2017 at 12:28 am | #

    I like Nash. What’s going on with her hands though?`

    • Leorale
      Leorale
      November 16, 2017 at 12:31 am | #

      Sign language! Beatrice is deaf.

      • Beef
        Beef
        November 16, 2017 at 12:53 am | #

        Oh! Cool detail

  19. Kamino Neko
    Kamino Neko
    November 16, 2017 at 12:31 am | #

    Do these girls ask permission before doing ANYTHING?

    • Undrave
      Undrave
      November 16, 2017 at 12:36 am | #

      They’re one power outage from Lord of the Flies in there!

  20. Hazel
    Hazel
    November 16, 2017 at 12:52 am | #

    I love all of these cheese-lovin’ rebels!

  21. Leorale
    Leorale
    November 16, 2017 at 12:53 am | #

    I’ve been learning a little ASL for a summer job and it’s super exciting to see it in a comic. <3

    (I especially like learning to tell terrible ASL puns. No one will be safe.)

  22. Keulen
    Keulen
    November 16, 2017 at 12:54 am | #

    Only one girl on the floor has a microwave? I’m pretty sure almost everyone had a microwave in their rooms when I went to college, and I graduated in 2011.

    • JessWitt
      JessWitt
      November 16, 2017 at 12:56 am | #

      The common room in my dorm had a microwave. I wonder if every dorm on my campus had one. Gods, we were spoiled.

  23. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    November 16, 2017 at 12:55 am | #

    Super sweet of Nash to sign for Beatrice.

  24. Lingo
    Lingo
    November 16, 2017 at 1:22 am | #

    This is such a cute group. I want them to have an adorable “rumble” with Sal, Marcie, Carla, and Malaya. Like a street fight, only it would involve water balloons or something.

  25. Bagge
    Bagge
    November 16, 2017 at 1:34 am | #

    Sal, Marcie, Carla and Malaya specifically don’t do “adorable”.

    Becky and Joyce and Dina on the other hand…

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      November 16, 2017 at 1:35 am | #

      Meant as an answer to Lingo…

    • Lingo
      Lingo
      November 16, 2017 at 2:55 am | #

      Yes but that’s what I’d love about it: the contrast. Sal et al. would take it way too seriously, whereas these girls would be all smiles and giggles.

      • Pablo360
        Pablo360
        November 16, 2017 at 9:05 am | #

        Did you just use “the girls” to distinguish between two groups of girls

        • Lingo
          Lingo
          November 16, 2017 at 11:00 pm | #

          Nope, check again

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      November 16, 2017 at 11:41 am | #

      *your first line* I BEG TO DIFFER.

  26. Nobody
    Nobody
    November 16, 2017 at 1:42 am | #

    So that one girl is incapable of keeping her hands still huh?

    • Nobody
      Nobody
      November 16, 2017 at 1:44 am | #

      Never mind it’s sign language and I’m dumb

      • Alex Denton
        Alex Denton
        November 16, 2017 at 3:24 am | #

        It’s cool I was wandering the same thing, until I noticed the other girl watching the signs ^^

      • Pablo360
        Pablo360
        November 16, 2017 at 9:08 am | #

        One thing that I’ve noticed that really almost makes up for my FEELS ABOUT THE MICROWAVE is that all of the girls here — especially Nash — are so used to signing everything they say, for (I assume) Beatrice’s benefit, that they even do it when Beatrice isn’t necessarily around. It’s become a habit and that’s awesome.

    • Agemegos
      Agemegos
      November 16, 2017 at 4:48 am | #

      I thought at first that she was wearing blue vinyl gloves.

      • dn3s
        dn3s
        November 16, 2017 at 1:17 pm | #

        i wondered about the doctor manhattan hands too. does blue glowyness just represent motion in the dumbiverse?

        • Pablo360
          Pablo360
          November 16, 2017 at 1:31 pm | #

          It… it has for a while. Has everyone forgotten basically every strip featuring Marcie?

    • Roborat
      Roborat
      November 16, 2017 at 3:12 pm | #

      I choose to believe that she is not even aware that she is signing.

  27. Bagge
    Bagge
    November 16, 2017 at 1:59 am | #

    “The Beforetimes”.

    I love Rose being melodramatic.

    • hof1991
      hof1991
      November 16, 2017 at 1:38 pm | #

      Star trek reference
      http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Miri_(episode)

      the real before times was watching ST in b&w.

  28. BenRG
    BenRG
    November 16, 2017 at 2:08 am | #

    I get the impression that ‘life outside of campus’ is a sort of running joke at Forest Hall; Billie will just have to learn to understand all these quips and in-jokes on which she’s about 3-4 months behind!

    Yeah, I think everyone’s right: Beatrice is deaf; she’s looking at Nash, who’s giving a running translation into ASL.

    • JessWitt
      JessWitt
      November 16, 2017 at 2:34 am | #

      I wonder how Beatrice handles lectures, and I suppose other classes. Does Nash accompany her to translate into sign? Hope it doesn’t interfere with her own classes.

      • pluto
        pluto
        November 16, 2017 at 2:53 am | #

        I’d imagine the university has disability services that help to some extent – I know my school has note-taking services, which students who have trouble either understanding auditory information or physically taking notes can use. I think we’ve also seen Beatrice lip-read, so that might help?

        (There may be additional services for deaf students that I’m not aware of, as I was specifically researching stuff to help me deal with a nerve injury in my writing arm.

        • JessWitt
          JessWitt
          November 16, 2017 at 3:33 am | #

          Neat, I didn’t realize unis can go that far to help deaf students.

          • Leorale
            Leorale
            November 16, 2017 at 5:41 am | #

            It may be legally required, implying that rad people fought for it at some point. Anybody know if it’s part of ADA standards?

            • Socks
              Socks
              November 16, 2017 at 9:40 am | #

              I believe it is, my mom was a sign language interpreter at a community college for a while and she also sometimes had to proctor tests for students who had disabilities, and I can’t imagine that school doing a god damn thing for its students it wasn’t legally mandated to do.

              • Leorale
                Leorale
                November 16, 2017 at 4:38 pm | #

                Good on all the people who made it into a legal requirement, then, it must’ve been many working together to make that inclusive policy happen. 🙂

      • Elisto
        Elisto
        November 16, 2017 at 10:13 am | #

        There was a deaf student in my graduate-level statistics class who had sign language interpreters that I assumed were from the University. I can’t even imagine the skill needed to do that.

  29. pluto
    pluto
    November 16, 2017 at 2:11 am | #

    Oh man, does this ever bring me back to my days living in dorms. I was more the “buy packages of cookie dough and eat it straight outta the bag”* type, though. Now that I’m living off-campus and mostly surviving off canned soup and PB&Js, I gotta say having regular access to hot meals that I don’t gotta do the dishes for is pretty appealing, but the grass is always greener and yadda yadda.

    (*kids, don’t do this, it aint worth the tummyaches. at least get cookie dough ice cream or search out the holy grail of ‘cookie dough intended to be eaten raw’ that they have in some fancypants grocery stores)

  30. Kamino Neko
    Kamino Neko
    November 16, 2017 at 3:24 am | #

    Random thought – I find Billie’s incredulity at Rose having a block of cheese a bit hard to swallow. Does she think Rose is utterly destitute?

    • Ansel
      Ansel
      November 16, 2017 at 3:37 am | #

      I think it’s more that that it’s not like the caf will just give you a block of cheese and it’s a weird piece of food to have in the dorms (and we don’t see Billy off campus much. I think it’s liquor store once and the beach episode and that’s it)

      • missilentmurmur
        missilentmurmur
        November 16, 2017 at 5:51 am | #

        Campus life must be interesting. Our dorm was in a totally different part of the city than the university bulidings, and it was horrible. Although we had as many groceries as we wanted.

      • C.
        C.
        November 16, 2017 at 6:47 am | #

        A check of the IU website says that there are convenience stores on campus that sell groceries, so it’s just the oddness?

    • Emily
      Emily
      November 16, 2017 at 5:33 am | #

      Yeah, like it’s a college not a prison it’s really not that hard to go out and buy a block of cheese.

  31. Xequecal
    Xequecal
    November 16, 2017 at 3:45 am | #

    I’ve never understood the appeal of just eating straight cheese. Cheese is something you put on things, not something you eat by itself. It’s like drinking salad dressing.

    • Wraithy2773
      Wraithy2773
      November 16, 2017 at 4:35 am | #

      On one hand, I agree.

      On the other… look every so often, I’ll treat myself to Brie… oh uh and with some crackers i guess i mean you can’t grab eat the cheese straight you gotta have something with it ya know.

      Hummus can be like that too. Delicious, delicious hummus with some bread thrown in there i guess :D.

      • Egg
        Egg
        November 16, 2017 at 9:20 am | #

        I mean, Jarlsberg is pretty nommable on its own. It’s not like all cheeses come in “spreadable” and “slice-shaped extrudate”.

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      November 16, 2017 at 4:38 am | #

      Cheese is, IMO, a taste best mixed with something else, especially something sweet!

    • Khno
      Khno
      November 16, 2017 at 6:24 am | #

      … Culture shocked.
      Okay, I used to drink salad dressing as a kid beacuase I really like vinegar and dijon (real dijon so hard to find now…I’m sad). But to ignore the unmitigated taste of sole cheese…

      • Roborat
        Roborat
        November 16, 2017 at 3:16 pm | #

        How do you make cheese out of fish?

    • Sunny
      Sunny
      November 16, 2017 at 9:24 am | #

      It depends on the cheese. Some are really only good for putting on other things, but there are many which can stand on their own with no problem. Mostly french cheeses that often contain mold (Saint Agur is just divine), but some hard cheeses as well like a good cheddar, a well-aged parmigiano or grana padano, or a manchego off the top of my mind. There are definitely more out there but I haven’t yet had time to taste them all, though I’m trying.

      Anyway, point is there’s a huge difference between a young cheese that you put slices off on top of your bread (or, god forbid! those pre-sliced or pre-grated cheeses. And just stay away from those “products containing 51% cheese” I’ve heard exist in the USA) and a cheese that’s been allowed to age for the better part of a year, or 2 years, or 3, in a cave in the European Alps (or least under controlled humidity and temperatures resembling such a cave). The cheese develops so much flavour if you let it ripen it becomes a shame to dilute the taste by putting it on a sandwich.
      Soft cheeses go the other way in that they hardly mature at all so you keep many of the flavours of the milk and get a very soft and creamy texture. That’s why crackers are used, they have very little taste of their own but add some salt and are a good medium for getting the cheese into your mouth without getting it all over your fingers.

      • Liquid Len
        Liquid Len
        November 16, 2017 at 1:22 pm | #

        True words spoken. I love a good aged cheese (like some of the gouda I had in Amsterdam), and it’s tasty all on its own. But for me there’s also a place for the American cheese food product, and that place is on a Philly Cheesesteak sandwich. Hoagie roll, thin-sliced beef, grilled onions, and Cheez-Whiz (TM).
        Damn, now I need to head to Philadelphia again…

  32. Emily
    Emily
    November 16, 2017 at 5:31 am | #

    Y’all are super weird.

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      November 16, 2017 at 6:32 am | #

      Weird can be good if it’s a non-creepy weird. The jury is still out what kind of weird the Forest Girls are.

  33. Doopyboop
    Doopyboop
    November 16, 2017 at 6:41 am | #

    This is especially amusing because of how my freshman year was. My roomy/flatmates all had the dining hall stuff. I’m a picky eater and my parents and I agreed that spending all that money for the dining hall when I may not even eat half their options for food wasn’t a good use of money. So in my room, I had a microwave and a mini-fridge! My roomie would borrow one shelf because she’d buy things like milk or yogurt. I missed having an oven to cook with, but I did fine with the fridge, microwave, and the food places on campus. My college is second largest in the country in terms of student size so we have a food court in the dang Student Union.

    • Annika
      Annika
      November 16, 2017 at 10:59 am | #

      I also have a food court in my student union, but my school only has something like 28,000 students. Is it unusual to have a food court in the union?

      • Doopyboop
        Doopyboop
        November 16, 2017 at 3:05 pm | #

        Honestly, I HAVE only been to…two college campuses? So I don’t exactly have a great sampling size to determine if it really is weird. I just know when I’d tell people about the Dominos, Subway, and Nathan’s Hot Dog areas of my student union they seemed surprised. Maybe it’s because people are more familiar with community colleges? Cool to hear that your’s has a food court though! Was the food good?

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          November 16, 2017 at 3:10 pm | #

          May depend partly on age? I think the franchises have been making more inroads on college campuses over the years. There were basically none where and when I went to school, but I was back on campus some years later and they had moved in.

  34. Pl0x
    Pl0x
    November 16, 2017 at 7:00 am | #

    Good cheese is so dang expensive. It has to be imported here. I buy it very sparingly, like 2 or 3 times a year, and I have to finish it within 2-3 weeks before it goes bad.

  35. Vulcanodon
    Vulcanodon
    November 16, 2017 at 7:36 am | #

    Man, that takes me back. I went to a private Christian college in Tennessee in the ’70’s. The cafeteria director truly believed he had a mission from God to make wonderful food for college students. 3 meals of amazing food every day. It was so good they opened up the cafeteria for local people to come have lunch after Church on Sundays as a revenue stream.

    I loved that man…

  36. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    November 16, 2017 at 7:54 am | #

    I’ve spent really no time on a campus bigger than my college’s, enrollment under 3000 (incl, masters’ students).

    So, how big is the IU campus? And what’s the nearby grocery scene? Bodegas, supermarkets (think IGA or old A&P), supersupermarkets (Stop&Ship), megamarkets?

    • Marsh Maryrose
      Marsh Maryrose
      November 16, 2017 at 11:46 am | #

      Short answer: IUB is huge.

      In U.S. News and World Report‘s list of 331 “National Universities,” IU-Bloomington ranks 9th in terms of enrollment.

      According to IUB’s Ranking and Statistics page, in 2017 there are 39,184 undergraduates and 49,695 total students. According to USNWR’s IUB profile, 35% of those undergrads live in campus-owned/affiliated housing — somewhere around 13,700. (No stats readily available for grad students.)

  37. Crumplepunch
    Crumplepunch
    November 16, 2017 at 9:03 am | #

    Is… cheese rare in America?

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      November 16, 2017 at 9:10 am | #

      No, but undergrad students able to afford actual objectively-characterisable foodstuffs is nearly unheard of!

    • Liquid Len
      Liquid Len
      November 16, 2017 at 11:31 am | #

      Far from it. We put cheese (and often times “cheese”, or a cheese-food product) on everything.

    • Roborat
      Roborat
      November 16, 2017 at 3:19 pm | #

      Well, real cheese is. What Americans call cheese is questionable.

      • Liquid Len
        Liquid Len
        November 16, 2017 at 3:58 pm | #

        You can find it here. Ya just gotta know where to look. A small dairy not far from me has great cheese: http://www.cowsoutside.com/100-grass-fed-cowsmilk-cheeses
        It’s spendy, but I’d bet it’d cover most people’s definition of good cheese! 🙂

      • StClair
        StClair
        November 16, 2017 at 4:55 pm | #

        I am at once bothered (mortified, offended, etc) by “American cheese” – vinyl-like squares of thoroughly processed food product, engineered for things like consistency (in shape/dimensions, melting behavior, etc etc) and shelf life over taste – and reluctantly forced to concede, “yeah, that’s… about right.”

        • StClair
          StClair
          November 16, 2017 at 4:57 pm | #

          individually packaged, as a point of pride and/or convenience, yet almost perfectly identical

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        November 16, 2017 at 6:34 pm | #

        There’s plenty of good cheese in the US. Much of it made here, in addition to easily available imported cheeses. Vermont and Wisconsin Cheddars are only the most obvious.

        We also invented processed “cheese food” and make and sell a lot of it, but it’s far from all there is available. It’s just cheap and convenient, like most processed foods.

  38. calvsie
    calvsie
    November 16, 2017 at 12:32 pm | #

    Rose is my new favorite person.
    This could purely be the Wisconsinite in me.

  39. JBento
    JBento
    November 16, 2017 at 2:30 pm | #

    Unrelated to the strip, I just wanted to say I love the new Becky get-up. She looks awesome.

  40. Roborat
    Roborat
    November 16, 2017 at 3:20 pm | #

    It would be funny if the one girl with a microwave is part of the group sitting there.

    • Kamino Neko
      Kamino Neko
      November 16, 2017 at 8:19 pm | #

      Lucy’s look reads as ‘hey, I’ve got a microwave’ to me.

  41. JBento
    JBento
    November 16, 2017 at 3:22 pm | #

    Congratulations! You’ve climbed yet ANOTHER position on my “country I’d be most likely to glass if I had the chance.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/16/us-to-allow-imports-of-elephant-trophies-from-zimbabwe

    • Clif
      Clif
      November 16, 2017 at 5:23 pm | #

      Nah. The environmental impact statement would take you forever.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        November 16, 2017 at 6:35 pm | #

        Don’t worry. Trump’s going to reduce the burdensome environmental regulations any day now.

  42. Twirls
    Twirls
    November 16, 2017 at 4:30 pm | #

    Wait, but… are microwaves not allowed on IU’s campus or something? At my undergrad dorm generally every set of roommates would arrange for someone to buy a cheap microwave and mini fridge
    and there was a small communal kitchen(a stovetop oven, a sink, and a microwave) on the first floor

    • Doopyboop
      Doopyboop
      November 16, 2017 at 7:23 pm | #

      If I remember right, some dorm halls might be strict about it. I know my college allowed them, but they had to be lower watt microwaves. If they went above a certain wattage, they were not allowed.

  43. Jhon
    Jhon
    November 16, 2017 at 6:25 pm | #

    Wait–
    Did we just see the ASL for ‘while she pees’?

    • McBogue
      McBogue
      November 16, 2017 at 11:06 pm | #

      I believe that is sign for “microwave”.

      https://www.handspeak.com/word/search/index.php?id=4830

  44. Old Fart
    Old Fart
    November 16, 2017 at 7:48 pm | #

    Whaaaat…blue signing gloves appearing and disappearing!? So confused.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      November 16, 2017 at 9:23 pm | #

      The blue images just indicate motion. They’re like motion lines.

  45. maninblack
    maninblack
    November 16, 2017 at 8:15 pm | #

    She pees for 3 minutes?

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      November 16, 2017 at 9:24 pm | #

      There’s the walk down the hallway to consider.

    • Ana Chronistic
      Ana Chronistic
      November 16, 2017 at 11:59 pm | #

      I do but because I’m also on the WiFis

  46. Some Random Name
    Some Random Name
    November 16, 2017 at 11:59 pm | #

    That one girl is deaf/hard of hearing, isn’t she? I’m bad with character names and didn’t want to check the tags.

    • Some Random Name
      Some Random Name
      November 19, 2017 at 4:32 am | #

      Definitely isn’t, other girl just moves her hands a lot, that’s my mistake.

      …did I mention I’m bad with character names and I’m lazy?

      • PB
        PB
        December 5, 2017 at 10:02 am | #

        No, the redhead girl is deaf, the girl in the hijab is tranlsating for her.

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