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by David M Willis on December 19, 2017 at 12:01 am
  • 02 - This Is the Way that We Love
└ Tags: amber, dexter, titanic, walky

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  1. CandidCanid
    CandidCanid
    December 19, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    I feel like Walky has a great capacity for empathy; he’s just not used to exercising it, and is usually too afraid to do so.

    (Oh, and hey guys, I’m back. :D)

    • Liliet
      Liliet
      December 19, 2017 at 2:35 am | #

      Also, crying while watching movies is not a universal experience. I cry p much only when I’m tired and disoriented, sadness is just not associated with tears. I’m more likely to cry at a very bad movie than at a very good one…

      • TachyonCode
        TachyonCode
        December 19, 2017 at 7:42 am | #

        I’ve cried at a rare and narrow range of movies, and most of them weren’t intended to evoke that reaction.

        • Andrew_C
          Andrew_C
          December 19, 2017 at 8:37 am | #

          Me too, I tend to cry at war movies. And not just anti war ones like Grave of the Fireflies.

        • Freemage
          Freemage
          December 19, 2017 at 12:29 pm | #

          I usually only cry if I’m not expecting the situation. I’m too familiar with tropes and such to get caught off-guard by a tearjerker moment, in most cases–since I can see it coming, I’m usually prepped when it hits.

          There’s this one scene in Pan’s Labyrinth that DID catch me off-guard, on the other hand, and I wound up bawling like a 5-year-old who just saw his puppy get run over.

          • Henshu
            Henshu
            December 19, 2017 at 12:56 pm | #

            By contrast I cry at everything, including in anticipation of tropes I see coming a mile a way (to the confusion of other viewers)

      • ǝ snow ʍousɐ
        ǝ snow ʍousɐ
        December 19, 2017 at 8:01 am | #

        Thanks so much for saying this, because I have freaked out so much at stuff like https://xkcd.com/233/ wondering if I had no empathy!

      • miina
        miina
        December 19, 2017 at 9:45 pm | #

        I cry or not mostly based on the presence of sad music… true story

    • Mr. Random
      Mr. Random
      December 19, 2017 at 9:26 am | #

      For physical muscles, it’s said that an infant’s muscles are not fully developed.
      In order to fully develop the muscles, the infants repeatedly use them.
      Repeated use for the purpose of developing something is known as exercise.
      So….
      I kinda agree then.
      Sally doesn’t have a fully developed sense of empathy because he hasn’t exercised it much.

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        December 19, 2017 at 9:38 am | #

        You’re 200% correct about his unexercised empathy. I hope we get more random glimpses, like of him w.r.t Billie.

        (“You don’t understand, yesterday she was talking like she wasn’t the best damn thing in the whole world. From her that’s crazy talk!”)

        (“Sally” is an autocorrect from “Walky”, right? Because my tablet did that for a long time!)

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          December 19, 2017 at 10:42 am | #

          I get Wally a lot too.

  2. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    December 19, 2017 at 12:03 am | #

    nice callback

    • MM
      MM
      December 19, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

      Now that’s plotting.

      • Safgaftsa
        Safgaftsa
        December 19, 2017 at 2:16 am | #

        Now this is plotracing.

  3. CleverTrousers
    CleverTrousers
    December 19, 2017 at 12:04 am | #

    When’d Mary get that abortion?

    • timemonkey
      timemonkey
      December 19, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

      Highschool?

    • OnyxIdol
      OnyxIdol
      December 19, 2017 at 5:24 am | #

      How do you relate this strip to Mary and do we actually know she had an abortion? I don’t think so.

      • CleverTrousers
        CleverTrousers
        December 19, 2017 at 6:33 am | #

        Look at the alt-text.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      December 19, 2017 at 6:48 am | #

      Wasn’t that midway through It’s Walky!, several years after college? We’ll probably have warp drive and an uneasy truce with The Dominion by the time DoA catches up.

  4. AnvilPro
    AnvilPro
    December 19, 2017 at 12:04 am | #

    I would have loved a week of Dorothy and Walky watching Titanic and Walky questioning all the bad decisions, imagine when he sees the alternate ending

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      December 19, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

      Is that the one with the rapping dog, or the giant octopus?

      • Tacos
        Tacos
        December 19, 2017 at 12:22 am | #

        I think maybe it’s the one were they play a children’s card game on motorcycles.

        • Mr. Bulbmin
          Mr. Bulbmin
          December 19, 2017 at 2:32 am | #

          I was about to mention that those were from the animated Titanic movies

          But I suppose Titanic turning into Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds somehow makes more sense than those trainwrecks

          So . . . CLEAR MIND! ACCEL SYNCHRO! SOMETHING SOMETHING JACK ATLAS!

      • motorfirebox
        motorfirebox
        December 19, 2017 at 12:50 am | #

        My name is Fruffy and I’m her to say
        old biddy shouldn’ta thrown that jewel away

        • ValdVin
          ValdVin
          December 19, 2017 at 4:17 am | #

          “Note: Fruffy died on his way back to his home planet.”

    • Koms
      Koms
      December 19, 2017 at 12:20 am | #

      How It Should Have Ended

      • IllogicalBobcat
        IllogicalBobcat
        December 19, 2017 at 4:27 am | #

        How the strip should have ended? “The joke’s on her, because I’m Batman.”

  5. Derek
    Derek
    December 19, 2017 at 12:04 am | #

    do people actually cry at Titanic? I personally never got emotional over it

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      December 19, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

      I did, and I was an 18 year old guy in a crowd of 18 year old guys. (none of us cried as much as the gang of even “tougher” 14 year old guys just behind us in the theater, though).

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      December 19, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

      People sob. I’d probably cry if I watched it without so much knowledge of what happens.

      But, like, I cried in the theater when Hermione altered her parents’ memories, so.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      December 19, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

      I didn’t cry, but I do find scenes based off real people who died to be very emotional.

    • Derek
      Derek
      December 19, 2017 at 12:10 am | #

      for the record I’ve gotten emotional over movies like the Prince of Egypt, the Lion King and Brokeback mountain. So apparently my trend is that it has to be animated or gay

      • Mr. Bulbmin
        Mr. Bulbmin
        December 19, 2017 at 2:33 am | #

        You would probably cry a lot watching Nanoha, then.

        • Eldritch Gentleman
          Eldritch Gentleman
          December 19, 2017 at 3:39 am | #

          Especially in A’s after listening to the Sound Stages… poor Wolkies, poor Reinforce.

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      December 19, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

      I don’t think I’ve ever cried while watching it, though I don’t often cry while watching movies in general.

    • Stu
      Stu
      December 19, 2017 at 12:21 am | #

      The key point where people would cry – the band playing “Nearer My God to Thee”, as that reportedly DID happen on the actual Titanic.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        December 19, 2017 at 1:28 am | #

        Well, they were playing SOMETHING when the ship went down. Reports vary on what it was. Some said it was indeed “Nearer My God to Thee” and others said the band basically went ‘Fuck this, let’s play something fun’ and played popular music of the time.

      • StClair
        StClair
        December 19, 2017 at 1:51 am | #

        “Gentlemen, it has been a privilege playing with you tonight.”

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      December 19, 2017 at 12:21 am | #

      The trick for not crying for me was that I’d gotten a large soda, and it was a three hour movie with lots of running water, so by the end I was less focused on the dialogue or plot and more on whether or not my kidneys were going to explode.

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        December 19, 2017 at 1:23 pm | #

        Walky would be proud,

    • Chrisashtear
      Chrisashtear
      December 19, 2017 at 12:30 am | #

      Saw it in theaters, cried a lot. I also had read a lot about the Titanic beforehand, so I was very attached to the passengers.

    • Hoodiecrow
      Hoodiecrow
      December 19, 2017 at 12:35 am | #

      (Spoilers?) When Rose met Jack again in the stairs in front of the beaming Captain and all the lost people, that was emotional and well done.

      But the young poor Irish mother telling her kids about Tír na nÓg to keep their spirits up into the end really brought tears to my eyes.

    • Bicycle Bill
      Bicycle Bill
      December 19, 2017 at 12:40 am | #

      I don’t recall crying over ‘Titanic’, but the “”Hey…Dad? You wanna have a catch?”?” line from ‘Field of Dreams’ will turn on the waterworks every time.

    • Vinny
      Vinny
      December 19, 2017 at 1:03 am | #

      no, but I cried at the end of “Edward Scissorhands”.

    • StClair
      StClair
      December 19, 2017 at 1:47 am | #

      Hell, I started crying during the opening titles, during the faux newsreel footage (really just the later departure scene, put through a sepia filter with lots of grain ‘n dust ‘n stuff). All those people happily waving goodbye, with no idea of what awaited them in the middle of the cold Atlantic…

      • StClair
        StClair
        December 19, 2017 at 2:07 am | #

        I also cried, several times, this last weekend while watching The Last Jedi.
        Basically, I cry a lot. I’m pretty emotional; I got that from my mother. Or from being a Pisces, take your pick.

        • OnyxIdol
          OnyxIdol
          December 19, 2017 at 5:23 am | #

          Did you like it? I’m curious because I’ve heard that it’s pretty terrible.

          • Khyrin
            Khyrin
            December 19, 2017 at 9:31 am | #

            I enjoyed The Last Jedi. JJ Abrams and the writers were trying to bring back the fact that, at heart, Star Wars is for kids, even ones that are adults. it’s not supposed to be 110% SRS BUSINESS.

            Carrying on from StClair’s comment: I teared up at the last two minutes of the film, juxtaposed with an advert that ran just before the movie in my theater. ((Hopefully that’s sufficiently non-spoilery. ))

          • Fart Captor
            Fart Captor
            December 19, 2017 at 1:24 pm | #

            A lot of the people saying it’s terrible seem to be upset either because it’s very different from what they expected, or because they feel that “feminists ruined Star Wars”.

            There were a couple moments where I cringed a bit because it felt a little ham-fisted, but I loved it.

          • BBCC
            BBCC
            December 19, 2017 at 9:19 pm | #

            I saw it tonight and I really really liked it! My boyfriend loved it and he uses that word sparingly about fiction. (Give me a little time to digest it, I’m sure I’ll switch to ‘love it’ too).

          • Heather
            Heather
            December 20, 2017 at 2:27 am | #

            I thought there were good moments but the fact that (spoilers?). Iran so obviously ships kylo ren and Rey was disgusting. Hopefully Abrams will fix that shit.

            • Heather
              Heather
              December 20, 2017 at 2:28 am | #

              *Rian wtf autocorrect

        • Roborat
          Roborat
          December 19, 2017 at 2:24 pm | #

          That bad huh?

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      December 19, 2017 at 4:09 am | #

      I did.

      Let the record show.that I love me a good weeper, which is what chick flicks were called back in the 30s and 40s. (I feel the need to say I was not yet born then.)

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      December 19, 2017 at 6:59 am | #

      I swallowed pretty hard a couple times, movies don’t generally get to me.

      Laughed my ass off at the guy who goes tumbling into the ocean after hitting the propeller, though.

    • Inahc
      Inahc
      December 19, 2017 at 6:09 pm | #

      it had music, therefore I cried. 🙂

  6. Bagge
    Bagge
    December 19, 2017 at 12:05 am | #

    “My girlfriend’s girlfriend”…

    heh, I hope he’s shared that joke with Becky. It’s good stuff.

    • Woobie
      Woobie
      December 19, 2017 at 12:08 am | #

      Because Becky would be jealous of Dorothy?

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        December 19, 2017 at 12:24 am | #

        Teasing Joyce and Dorothy is the foundation of a glorious friendship

        http://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-5/01-when-somebody-loved-me/somebody/

    • Kernanator
      Kernanator
      December 19, 2017 at 12:15 am | #

      “This is my girlfriend, Dorothy. And this is my girlfriend’s girlfriend, Joyce.”

      • TheHorseCouncil
        TheHorseCouncil
        December 19, 2017 at 12:33 am | #

        And now all I’m thinking of is a league of their own “this is my daughter dotty. This is my other daughter. Dotty’s sister.”

      • Jamie
        Jamie
        December 19, 2017 at 12:39 am | #

        “And this is my girlfriend’s girlfriend’s nemesis!” *points at a mirror*

  7. Yumi
    Yumi
    December 19, 2017 at 12:05 am | #

    Woah, man, spoilers; I haven’t gotten around to that one yet.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      December 19, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

      I realize you’re likely joking, but now I’m remembering everyone who considered the ship sinking ‘spoilers’.

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        December 19, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

        I honestly haven’t seen it, but, like…I know how it goes. It’s Titanic.
        As far as the ship sinking part, maybe they should have paid more attention in elementary school.

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          December 19, 2017 at 12:13 am | #

          Fair enough.

          Yes, there were several people who complained when people talked about the ship sinking – calling it ‘spoilers’. Also people who thought the explorers finding the wreck at the beginning spoiled the end.

      • Keulen
        Keulen
        December 19, 2017 at 12:18 am | #

        Spoiler alert: Jesus dies.

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          December 19, 2017 at 12:21 am | #

          To be fair, I was never gonna read that one anyway.

  8. Passchendaele
    Passchendaele
    December 19, 2017 at 12:06 am | #

    (if I remember right, it’s worth twenty dollars.)

  9. Woobie
    Woobie
    December 19, 2017 at 12:07 am | #

    Yes, he is garbage.

  10. Dave
    Dave
    December 19, 2017 at 12:09 am | #

    I dunno, alt text, Danny pretended to be someone’s boyfriend while his parents were visiting on-panel!

  11. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    December 19, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

    *plays the “You Don’t Know Jack” song from the Tom Selleck series The Closer (no relation to the later show that became Major Crimes) on the hacked P.A. speakers*

  12. Too Old To Be Cool
    Too Old To Be Cool
    December 19, 2017 at 12:11 am | #

    Voice change is srs bsns.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      December 19, 2017 at 7:51 am | #

      voice change: Oh right, I’m dressed as her. Suppose I shouldn’t blow the secret id.

  13. BBCC
    BBCC
    December 19, 2017 at 12:12 am | #

    I squeed when I saw Titanic, I won’t lie.

    It’s one of my historical interests. I’ve read waaaaaaayyyyyyy too many books and articles about the Titanic.

    The movie’s alright. Not really ground breaking cinema, story wise. But it’s solid enough that I liked the fictional characters. It’s one of the more accurate (fiction) movies regarding what happened too so my nerdy side was tickled.

    • 3oranges
      3oranges
      December 19, 2017 at 12:58 am | #

      I thought it was good in that respect, but one of the inaccuracies was a bad one – William Murdoch was turned into a villain who took bribes and shot passengers. They ended up apologizing to his family and donated to his memorial, but not much by that movie’s standards.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        December 19, 2017 at 1:25 am | #

        Oh god yes. They did that poor crew so so wrong, and Murdoch in particular.

  14. Shiro
    Shiro
    December 19, 2017 at 12:13 am | #

    Wait, Dorothy got a girlfriend while I wasn’t looking? Or is he facetiously referring to Joyce?

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      December 19, 2017 at 12:13 am | #

      Joyce.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      December 19, 2017 at 12:27 am | #

      Yes.

      “Facetiously”

      http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-7/01-glower-vacuum/warm/

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        December 19, 2017 at 12:02 pm | #

        Upside-down Joyce is the friendliest Joyce. That’s the top tier, which I figure has only been reached by Becky and Dorothy.

        • Lieutenant Dan
          Lieutenant Dan
          December 19, 2017 at 7:18 pm | #

          Upside-down Joyce ain’t particularly friendly…

          https://goo.gl/images/7K7ALf

  15. Keulen
    Keulen
    December 19, 2017 at 12:16 am | #

    I’m kinda wondering how Walky got from talking about them being garbage to Titanic. I’m missing the connection between those two topics here.

    • lilyliv
      lilyliv
      December 19, 2017 at 12:19 am | #

      I’m guessing his comment in the fourth panel is an analogy for him and Dotty, from his perspective.

    • brionl
      brionl
      December 19, 2017 at 12:19 am | #

      Because Rose jumping in the water was a dumb decision. Jack = Walky flunking math, and he thinks he’s dragging down Dorothy too.

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        December 19, 2017 at 12:28 am | #

        “My girlfriend trying to help me is like her plunging to her doom in the icy cold ocean”.

        Walky is very subtle.

      • Inahc
        Inahc
        December 19, 2017 at 8:25 pm | #

        it took me a while to figure that out, probably because of the train of thought getting derailed by head alien there 😉

        I’m worried about walky now, that’s a really not-good way of looking at things :/ I was hoping this was going to go in a very different direction, but, of *course* this is dumbing of age, they’re not gonna sort things out so easily. :/

        also I’m reading hte third stormlight book at the moment and seeing way too many parallells between a certain character from there and here… :/ I reallly hope that they get some damn help soon, it hurts to watch.

    • Lingo
      Lingo
      December 19, 2017 at 12:29 am | #

      Rose should have let Jack drown, because Jack was garbage, apparently.

      • Lingo
        Lingo
        December 19, 2017 at 12:29 am | #

        Dangit I knew I should have refreshed before replying

  16. Yumi
    Yumi
    December 19, 2017 at 12:18 am | #

    At least he didn’t start the Billy Zane fan club after seeing it.

    • JessWitt
      JessWitt
      December 19, 2017 at 12:26 am | #

      Yeah, start the club after watching The Phantom.

      • Stacyswirl
        Stacyswirl
        December 19, 2017 at 12:37 am | #

        YES.

        • JessWitt
          JessWitt
          December 19, 2017 at 4:15 pm | #

          What can I say? I have a soft spot for 90s period piece hero films. 🙂

          • ValdVin
            ValdVin
            December 19, 2017 at 5:47 pm | #

            I’m the only person who liked The Shadow, it seems.

            • JessWitt
              JessWitt
              December 19, 2017 at 8:44 pm | #

              No you’re not. My dad and I like it too.

  17. Tacos
    Tacos
    December 19, 2017 at 12:19 am | #

    Honestly if Walky watched Titanic then I expected him to rant about how Jack and Rose would both totally fit on the piece of wood or whatever it was.

    • Rukdug
      Rukdug
      December 19, 2017 at 12:32 am | #

      I know!! It’s like, “Seriously, you couldn’t find a smaller piece of wood to film this scene with so it wouldn’t feel so stupid?”

    • Chrisashtear
      Chrisashtear
      December 19, 2017 at 12:33 am | #

      It was a door

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      December 19, 2017 at 7:07 am | #

      Even Kate Winslet agrees on that point.

  18. pinkie
    pinkie
    December 19, 2017 at 12:19 am | #

    First time watching Titanic, I was in college (I was like Joyce before that and lived under a rock.) Anyway, I alternated between laughing my butt off at inopportune moments (because the villain is the doppelganger of someone unpleasant I know irl) and hurling at the overdone sappy romance.

  19. caesaria82
    caesaria82
    December 19, 2017 at 12:19 am | #

    My girlfriend’s girlfriend. Bless.

  20. Cody C.
    Cody C.
    December 19, 2017 at 12:30 am | #

    Is it strange that I’m kind of proud that Walky is aware enough to make that realization about himself in the final panel?

    • Liliet
      Liliet
      December 19, 2017 at 2:40 am | #

      Walky’s pretty self-aware in general, yeah, and pretty great.

  21. Rukdug
    Rukdug
    December 19, 2017 at 12:31 am | #

    I admit that I didn’t particularly like Titanic. Jack and his Italian buddy were the only parts of it I actually liked. And the whole “one true love” type narrative Rose was trying to spin is bullshit because she has a granddaughter, so she obviously ended up loving someone else enough to have kids with them. And then she throws that big gem into the sea when her granddaughter could probably really make use of funds from selling that. And the whole thing is depressing because Rose is very much an example of the historic facts about the Titanic. Rose has a happy ending with the rich asshole trying to marry her committing suicide instead. She also happened to be rich. The upper-deck (and thus upper class) passengers had the highest survival rates while the poorer ones all drowned. It instead leaves me with this taste of “Why should I feel sorry for you? You survived and lived a long happy life. Most of those people you danced with that one time died. I’ll save my sympathy for them.” Plus, she and Jack never got out of that new relationship “honeymoon” period. We have no way of knowing if they would have ended up working out long term. Just, so much about that movie I don’t like.

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      December 19, 2017 at 12:35 am | #

      But how was that guy supposed to give it to Britney Spears if Rose didn’t get rid of it?

      • Stacyswirl
        Stacyswirl
        December 19, 2017 at 12:38 am | #

        Ha! The best.

    • Zaxares
      Zaxares
      December 19, 2017 at 4:15 am | #

      You don’t necessarily have to love someone to have kids with them. There were plenty of arranged and political marriages throughout history where children resulted despite there being no love lost between the partners.

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        December 19, 2017 at 4:21 am | #

        Or the condom could just break.

    • Deadjolras
      Deadjolras
      December 19, 2017 at 6:41 pm | #

      I believe Rose is worth sympathy. Just because she survived the sinking, that doesn’t mean she got an automatic happy ending. At the age of 17, she’d endured things that ranged from an abusive fiancé to an almost exploitative mother and an absent father that left her family buried in debt. Let’s not diminish the trauma she must’ve lived with after living through one of humanity’s worst disasters – a tragedy where she lost someone she deeply cared about and actually watched them die slowly right in front of her.

      Whether Jack was her “one true love” is irrelevant because it can’t be denied that, even if their relationship collapsed had they both survived, he was still a positive influence in her life and left a huge impact on her surviving years (people often forget that she was suicidal and he quite literally saved her life when they first met). Her status as a “rich girl” is also irrelevant: she wasn’t one of “upper-deck passengers” you mention because she didn’t evacuate the ship with the other rich folks. Like Walky pointed out, she stayed behind even when she didn’t have to (Jack even calls her stupid for doing so) and if she hadn’t been lucky enough to be floating next to the corpse of an officer, she would’ve died along with everyone else. It wasn’t her wealth that saved her – like it saved her mother, for example – but pure luck. And it doesn’t matter anyway because she gave up all her riches (or whatever was left of them) the moment she said her name was ‘Rose Dawson’ in New York City and, even if she hadn’t, she probably would’ve lost everything in 1929.

      I… apologise for the wall of text. I didn’t know I cared so much about Titanic.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        December 19, 2017 at 9:23 pm | #

        I agree with all this and would like to add that while she did indeed fall in love again, that doesn’t mean she didn’t have stronger feelings for Jack that were only negated by his death. Or even simply that she wouldn’t have ended up with her husband had Jack lived (possible – like you said, we don’t know. That’s the tragic part – Jack died young and nobody remembers him but Rose, who never got to know him well).

        Also, I see a lot of grief about her throwing the necklace away. Sure, she could have given it to her granddaughter, but the necklace is her’s. She can do what she wants with it. If she feels like it belongs with the Titanic as a reminder of that night, that’s her prerogative. Her granddaughter lived in a house on her own paycheque (and possibly a pension or survivor’s fund for the Titanic) so it’s not like her granddaughter is poor or struggling for money.

  22. Architex
    Architex
    December 19, 2017 at 12:45 am | #

    Last panel makes a better title than “Up here, we can be garbage”

    • JessWitt
      JessWitt
      December 19, 2017 at 12:51 am | #

      Lotta words for the title. The ends may need to be trimmed off, like a Subway sandwich.

  23. Arianod
    Arianod
    December 19, 2017 at 12:46 am | #

    The Chef Dexter action figure!? Walky, you lucky bastard!

  24. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    December 19, 2017 at 1:11 am | #

    Oh, Joyce got played.

  25. PB
    PB
    December 19, 2017 at 1:13 am | #

    Walky, I see where you’re going with this. And don’t.

    Sacrificing yourself because you believe the other person will be better without you negates their choice in the matter. Also it doesn’t make them stop caring about you, so it still hurts them and now you look selfish and/or stupid for not thinking of that.

    (I know it’s more nuanced than this. I’m just summarizing.)

  26. BenRG
    BenRG
    December 19, 2017 at 2:00 am | #

    That’s the thing about you, isn’t it Walky? You really can’t understand why Dorothy would risk herself for you, no matter in which way. You can’t see why a perfect woman like her could find value in you. That’s sad but it really shows just how much self-loathing hides behind that class clown exterior.

    • StClair
      StClair
      December 19, 2017 at 2:14 am | #

      Yup.

      Anyone from yesterday still think he meant “feel like”, and not “I am“?

      • Liliet
        Liliet
        December 19, 2017 at 2:43 am | #

        He still talks about it like a temporary state. “When I’m being garbage”

  27. Mitsukara
    Mitsukara
    December 19, 2017 at 2:53 am | #

    If all roomies strips reoccur offscreen during timeskips in Dumbing of Age, are we going to suddenly have Ruth showing up in the hospital with a truck-related neck injury one of these times?

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      December 19, 2017 at 3:02 am | #

      There’s no indication that events in the Walkyverse are being duplicated in the Dumbingverse.

      • void
        void
        December 19, 2017 at 3:33 am | #

        Did you read the alt text?

        • BenRG
          BenRG
          December 19, 2017 at 5:56 am | #

          Alt text = author’s humour and =/= canon

          • Yumi
            Yumi
            December 19, 2017 at 9:23 pm | #

            That’s…really not the point being made. The comment was running with the alt text joke. You seemed to miss that. Twice.

  28. BBCC
    BBCC
    December 19, 2017 at 3:00 am | #

    Heads up Canadian readers, you should definitely be calling or emailing your reps, bell media, and the CRTC over Bell’s proposal about net neutrality. It’s pretty bad.

    Also, USians, you should probably call about the tax bill. Vote is tomorrow.

  29. Aggrax
    Aggrax
    December 19, 2017 at 3:29 am | #

    I’m honestly torn between wanting Walky to shove that action figure up his ass and wanting him to continue talking so he can realize how worthless he is to Dorothy.

    • Ansel
      Ansel
      December 19, 2017 at 4:02 am | #

      I’m pretty sure he knows exactly how worthless he is or more.

    • DarkoNeko
      DarkoNeko
      December 19, 2017 at 4:10 am | #

      Oh. You’re That Guy aren’t you.

      • BenRG
        BenRG
        December 19, 2017 at 6:32 am | #

        Yeah, Willis actually acknowledges him as an influence in writing Dorothy and Walky’s relationship as being ever closer and stronger.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          December 19, 2017 at 7:57 am | #

          Hey Aggrax, keep going. You’re doing good work.

    • Tarmaniel
      Tarmaniel
      December 19, 2017 at 8:35 am | #

      I’ve always found this sentiment vaguely creepy because you know if Walky and Dorothy were gender flipped nobody would have any problems with the relationship dynamic.

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        December 19, 2017 at 12:52 pm | #

        That’s quite the assumption. I’m fairly certain SOMEONE would have a problem with it; it wouldn’t be most people, but it’s not most people now.

      • Aggrax
        Aggrax
        December 19, 2017 at 5:43 pm | #

        It would still bother me because even if they weren’t dating Walky is still a huge load wasting his friends time and effort. Walky now is almost exactly like I was when I started college, except my friends had no tolerance for bullshit and didn’t coddle me from my failings like a baby. If Walky actually gets his head out of his butt and starts being someone worth being in a relationship with, I’ll reconsider my opinion of him

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          December 19, 2017 at 6:30 pm | #

          That’s sad, man. Hope you can get past this place one day.

      • Inahc
        Inahc
        December 19, 2017 at 6:20 pm | #

        for all X, someone on the internet has a problem with X. 🙂

        … but I know what you meant, and… don’t have the brain power to imagine the gender flip right now, apparently.

        although there’s quite a gender split in the cross-class romance stuff I can remember. like, lost of songs about how a guy will never get the girl because she’s above him, vs cinderella and stuff where the guy marries the girl anyways because True Love (or just because she’s pretty, ugh). maybe a lot of it is because it’s the guy’s status that becomes both their status when they marry, so when the woman is lower-status nothing is lost.

        so basically, it’s the damn patriarchy’s fault. 🙂

    • Deadjolras
      Deadjolras
      December 19, 2017 at 6:20 pm | #

      For someone that says they want the best for Dorothy, you sure don’t seem to respect her choices or feelings all that much.

  30. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    December 19, 2017 at 4:10 am | #

    Yay for undevelopped sense of movie empathy.

  31. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    December 19, 2017 at 4:22 am | #

    Is the wind picking up?

    Their self-loathing isn’t doing much for the forecast, is it?

  32. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    December 19, 2017 at 4:41 am | #

    It’s worse than that, Walky. If Rose had stayed on the lifeboat, then Jack would have been able to get on that bit of wreckage that kept her alive in the end.

    ….. not saying that this is analogous to you and Dorothy, of course. But when you’re moping for yourself, you gotta see the worst in an analogy if you’re going to really wallow.

  33. toby
    toby
    December 19, 2017 at 4:51 am | #

    It’s interesting – I’m only a few years older than the kids in this strip, but whenever I mention not having seen titanic to folks my age or older, they tend to be shocked/insist that I Must Watch It Immediately and that I’ve been Deprived Of A Formative Experience.

    (I haven’t seen it yet primarily because of the latter reaction – folks getting pushy about a nonessential thing is the best way to make me stop wanting to do it)

    • Malimar
      Malimar
      December 19, 2017 at 7:50 pm | #

      I was talking to a 22-year-old person about Titanic the other month, and was like “jeez, I saw it in theatres, and you were like 2 when it came out, I feel old”.

  34. BenRG
    BenRG
    December 19, 2017 at 5:58 am | #

    My guess: Amber somehow talks Walky out of his slump (or at least convinces him to try to help Dorothy in as strongly active manner) and even gets a slight insight into the fact that how we perceive ourselves isn’t necessarily objectively accurate. Then, completely unexpectedly, she shifts to Amazi-Girl who asks her: “Well, you helped Walkerton, didn’t you? Aren’t you supposed to be the irredeemable garbage?”

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      December 19, 2017 at 7:59 am | #

      Unlikely. Amazi-Girl’s been pushing bad stuff onto Amber for awhile now. How else can she be the golden alter?

      • Kamino Neko
        Kamino Neko
        December 19, 2017 at 11:07 am | #

        I think Amber’s doing at least as much of that as Amazi-Girl.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          December 19, 2017 at 2:38 pm | #

          Amber’s certainly cooperating, but there’s been no sign of AG trying to shore up Amber’s self-esteem.

  35. L!ghtn!ng
    L!ghtn!ng
    December 19, 2017 at 6:15 am | #

    His girlfriend’s girlfriend <3!
    Also, awww, Walky! ;_;

  36. JoeCovenant
    JoeCovenant
    December 19, 2017 at 6:24 am | #

    I’m now even more confused about the Amber/Amazi-Girl divide…
    Is Amazi Girl even *here* or is this ‘Just Amber’ in the costume?

    (As Amber consciously shifts to Amazi-Girl’s voice, here… which doesn’t really suggest the totally split ‘alter’ which has been suggested recently…)

    ???

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      December 19, 2017 at 6:33 am | #

      It’s Amber in the costume and imitating The Voice. Typically Amazi-Girl doesn’t have the blush marks on her cheeks.

      • Joe Covenant
        Joe Covenant
        December 20, 2017 at 5:36 am | #

        Ah well, yeah, that’s not confusing at all!

  37. Architex
    Architex
    December 19, 2017 at 6:38 am | #

    “What up, my name’s David, I’m eighteen years old and I never learned how to fucking do empathy”

  38. Mike Conner
    Mike Conner
    December 19, 2017 at 7:46 am | #

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgkBWZXVLyk
    Great so!

    • Mike Conner
      Mike Conner
      December 19, 2017 at 7:53 am | #

      song. stupid fingers.

  39. Jimmy
    Jimmy
    December 19, 2017 at 8:24 am | #

    I cried when I saw Titanic, but not when Jack died. I cried when the violinists were playing, and they showed the woman reading a story to her children at the bottom of the boat. That’s when I lost it.

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      December 19, 2017 at 11:58 am | #

      Among the parts which got me were the elderly rich couple (Astors?) just taking to their bed, and holding each other, fully clothed, after the outcome was clear.

      I’m no longer so young, and my wife and I randomly chat about the far future in an emotional sense. (The DNRs are signed.)

      All the riches one could want and they decided they couldn’t live without each other.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        December 19, 2017 at 9:31 pm | #

        That part was actually based on real life! That couple was Isidor and Ida Strauss. Ida was offered a place in a life boat but refused to leave without her husband. Because he was old and she refused to get in the boat otherwise, the officer offered to let Isidor go. He refused to leave as long as women and children were still on board. So she said, “We have been together for many years. Where you go, I go”. She gave her seat in the life boat to her recently hired maid, Ellen Byrd, along with her fur coat (she reasoned she wouldn’t need it anymore). They were last seen together, but in deck chairs, not in bed.

        Ellen tried to return the coat to the Strauss’ children (all grown adults by this point) but their oldest daughter refused. She said Ida gave it to Ellen and she should keep it.

        • Yumi
          Yumi
          December 19, 2017 at 9:36 pm | #

          So I’m reading this and getting emotional and all, but also I just whispered to myself, “Now that’s a ride-or-die.”

          • BBCC
            BBCC
            December 19, 2017 at 10:56 pm | #

            IKR? A lot of Titanic stories are very emotional.

            Mrs. Astor actually survived the sinking! Reportedly, he asked to accompany her because she was pregnant but was refused. He asked for the lifeboat number so he could find her later. He almost got into a different one but gave it up to two frightened children, as well as ordering two women onto the last two places on the boat before it took off.

            Their dog also died in the sinking, sadly. Reportedly, his wife trusted him to take care of her when she left. In one of the deleted scenes for Titanic, there’s a reference to that – he asks someone if they’d seen his dog because he didn’t want to die alone.

            He divided his fortune among his wife and his three children, including the one Madeline was pregnant with. She gave birth to a little boy, John Jacob Astor VI.

  40. Paradoxius
    Paradoxius
    December 19, 2017 at 11:34 am | #

    I don’t know if anyone’s noticed yet, but she’s still tagged Amber, not Amazi-Girl.

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      December 19, 2017 at 6:31 pm | #

      It’s been tagged that way the past couple strips. Discussions have occurred.

  41. Bagge
    Bagge
    December 19, 2017 at 11:53 am | #

    I for one am ALL FOR the spinoff comic “Dorothy Is President And Married To Walky And They’re Doing Fine”

    https://twitter.com/damnyouwillis/status/943042530530201600

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      December 19, 2017 at 5:52 pm | #

      Sign me up!

      This will create complications with the AU where Connie is president and Steven (hopefully) grows out of being First Boy.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      December 19, 2017 at 9:24 pm | #

      Gimme gimme gimme

  42. Tualha
    Tualha
    December 19, 2017 at 12:06 pm | #

    Hmm, reading The New Yorker, I see today is the 20th anniversary of the release of “Titanic”. You did that on purpose, Willis 🙂

  43. Locke
    Locke
    December 19, 2017 at 12:36 pm | #

    after reading what walky said … I suddenly realized that not only was Walky right, BUT if rose hadn’t gotten out of the lifeboat, there would have been room on that plank of wood for jack, and he might have survived, therefore rose stole jack’s chance of survival.

  44. Nenja
    Nenja
    December 19, 2017 at 1:44 pm | #

    I cry at Titanic. Funnily enough, the moment that always brings on the waterworks is the moment Walky is talking about, spesifically when they meet again after Rose jumps back on. These lines: “You’re so stupid, Rose. Why did you do that? Why?” I’m not sure why THAT in particular is what always gets me.

  45. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    December 19, 2017 at 5:55 pm | #

    I went quickly to the Chef Dexter Action Figure punchline and needed a couple reads to notice how Walky pulls an incredible turn-around after panel four. He almost opened up there.

  46. Jeremy
    Jeremy
    December 19, 2017 at 8:56 pm | #

    Self-aware Walky is the best kind of garbage.

  47. buddy
    buddy
    December 19, 2017 at 10:12 pm | #

    oh oof oh geez oh wow thats a uh how you say big fuckin mood from walky

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