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by David M Willis on December 18, 2018 at 12:01 am
  • 02 - But the Sun Still Shines
└ Tags: amber, joyce, walky

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    December 18, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

    talk some more

    on Garbage Floor

    • Sporky
      Sporky
      December 18, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

      everybody walk the dinosaur

      • LookingIn
        LookingIn
        December 18, 2018 at 12:27 am | #

        of course Dina would interject with that line…

        • HeySo
          HeySo
          December 18, 2018 at 7:28 am | #

          Now I can’t get that music video sequence out of my head..
          Please, someone whip it up for the rest of us, we need this.

          • RagtimeGoblin
            RagtimeGoblin
            December 18, 2018 at 1:46 pm | #

            Whip it, whip it good!

          • Opus the Poet
            Opus the Poet
            December 18, 2018 at 4:09 pm | #

            Are we not men?

        • Ed Rhodes
          Ed Rhodes
          December 18, 2018 at 7:08 pm | #

          One wonders if Dina has ever seen this video;

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-GxYzbI4lg

          • David T. Shaw
            David T. Shaw
            December 20, 2018 at 10:25 am | #

            Well, I had never seen it. Thanks for the link.

            • Ed Rhodes
              Ed Rhodes
              January 1, 2019 at 12:08 pm | #

              You’re welcome. Elvira ran it on a Halloween special and it kind of stuck with me.

    • Ivy
      Ivy
      December 18, 2018 at 12:06 am | #

      Selmers?

      • Missymumu
        Missymumu
        December 18, 2018 at 7:12 am | #

        I see and appreciate this reference

    • Architex
      Architex
      December 18, 2018 at 12:07 am | #

      Oh they’re on the floor, that’s why the red. For some reason I thought they were up in the bunk already

      • Ivy
        Ivy
        December 18, 2018 at 12:10 am | #

        Who decided to make the dorm floors blood red instead of, like, beige?

        • Tacos
          Tacos
          December 18, 2018 at 12:16 am | #

          Buckets of Blood Guy?

          • LookingIn
            LookingIn
            December 18, 2018 at 12:28 am | #

            he moonlights as an interior decorator to pay for college

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          December 18, 2018 at 2:13 am | #

          Isn’t that one of IU’s colors?

          I bet it’s cold linoleum too, or maybe an area rug Amber or Dina put down. I can’t imagine a college being crazy enough to put down wall to wall carpet; they’d have to replace it annually.

          • Ivy
            Ivy
            December 18, 2018 at 2:21 am | #

            School colors or not, it’s super tacky for a living space and I’m judging

          • BBCC
            BBCC
            December 18, 2018 at 2:36 am | #

            Unless it’s super matted, basically linoleum floor like what’s in the hallways.

            • Needfuldoer
              Needfuldoer
              December 18, 2018 at 4:28 am | #

              Thought so. They’d be nuts to build dotms out of anything they can’t hose down every June.

              • BBCC
                BBCC
                December 18, 2018 at 4:30 am | #

                Yeah, the stuff in the halls is so hard, I don’t think it counts as a carpet anymore.

                • Khyrin
                  Khyrin
                  December 18, 2018 at 5:16 am | #

                  Especially after Mary squirted GLUE all over it.

        • daredaemon
          daredaemon
          December 18, 2018 at 2:49 am | #

          Someone who knows these students and wanted to help them hide the stains?

    • mrj
      mrj
      December 18, 2018 at 12:18 am | #

      the homeless found a home on garbage floor

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      December 18, 2018 at 12:33 am | #

      Nice one

  2. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    December 18, 2018 at 12:04 am | #

    “…Correction, Superman, Batman, and an elaborate series of vegetables and household appliances are extremely good friends.”

    • Pablo360
      Pablo360
      December 18, 2018 at 12:07 am | #

      but everything changed when the cucumber nation attacked

      • shadowcell
        shadowcell
        December 18, 2018 at 12:36 am | #

        “i fought in the cucumber wars, until i took a cumshot to the knee”

        • Mollyscribbles
          Mollyscribbles
          December 18, 2018 at 2:59 am | #

          . . .

          excuse me, I’m sorry. I was about to make a reference to the porn parody of Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny but then I remembered that I’d blocked it from my brain.

      • FacelessDeviant
        FacelessDeviant
        December 18, 2018 at 1:44 am | #

        Only the Buttatar, master of all four vegetables, could stop them, but when the world needed him most, he vanished. A hundred years passed and my brother and I discovered the new Buttatar, an carrotbender named Aang.

        • Roborat
          Roborat
          December 18, 2018 at 3:05 pm | #

          I can’t decide which I like better, the Skyrim joke, or the Avatar jokes.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        December 18, 2018 at 2:19 am | #

        Let go of your pickle!

    • shadowcell
      shadowcell
      December 18, 2018 at 12:34 am | #

      Dumbing of Age Book 9: Batman and Superman Are Extremely Good Friends

      • Keulen
        Keulen
        December 18, 2018 at 1:27 am | #

        Dumbing of Age Book 9: Trust Me, She’s Preoccupied

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      December 18, 2018 at 12:35 am | #

      “…so any way,” Clark said with a grin, “turns out that just because I’m fire proof, my pants are not.”

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        December 18, 2018 at 12:55 am | #

        Batman turned to him with a raised eyebrown, let his eyes linger maybe just a moment too long on Superman’s super firm tushy and said:

        “I’m Batman”

        • Masumi
          Masumi
          December 18, 2018 at 5:18 am | #

          I almost spit my tea all over my phone XD

          • Bagge
            Bagge
            December 18, 2018 at 11:13 am | #

            That might be the best fanfic review I ever got 🙂

      • HeySo
        HeySo
        December 18, 2018 at 7:37 am | #

        I’m fairly sure that Clark has never been that coy in any of his iterations, even in his (actually genuinely a good guy, and not just a tropey and unlikable macho man or emo kid) iterations. I think I’d like him a lot more if he was ever written with that degree of personality range.

        ‘course, so long as Five for Fighting’s “Superman (It’s Not Easy)” exists, I’ll be a huge fan of the sheer pathos and romance of his character.

        • Bagge
          Bagge
          December 18, 2018 at 11:13 am | #

          Clark in all iterations has a great tushy.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      December 18, 2018 at 8:15 am | #

      Amber must be in a VERY good mood if she’s letting other people read her fanfic.

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        December 18, 2018 at 8:20 am | #

        I’m pretty sure most people who have spent any length of time with Joyce would be happy for most anything to distract her with.

      • Shade
        Shade
        December 18, 2018 at 10:09 am | #

        Hey she gets a beta reader and didn’t even have to ask.

  3. AnvilPro
    AnvilPro
    December 18, 2018 at 12:05 am | #

    Year of comics of Joyce reading fanfiction GO!

    • Clif
      Clif
      December 18, 2018 at 1:05 am | #

      Sounds all too plausible.

  4. Cheesy1
    Cheesy1
    December 18, 2018 at 12:05 am | #

    “So it’s okay as long as I’m not fucking another dude in the vagina?”

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      December 18, 2018 at 12:08 am | #

      Truly an excellent series, both of them in fact.

      • Adam Black
        Adam Black
        December 18, 2018 at 12:55 am | #

        What series?

        • cbwroses
          cbwroses
          December 18, 2018 at 12:59 am | #

          Is it Hellsing Ultimate Abridged?
          I don’t know where I’ve heard that line before, but I know it’s familiar, and that’s the first thing that I could think of.

          • Smiling Cat
            Smiling Cat
            December 18, 2018 at 2:53 am | #

            Yes, yes it is. Episode nine.

            “Ze bible says a man may not lay with a man as he would a woman!”

            • Felian
              Felian
              December 18, 2018 at 8:00 am | #

              isn’t this bible verse only telling us that queers have more imaginative sex than just “lay like with a woman“? 😛
              (also… your typical gay man wouldn’t lie with a man as he would with a woman, if we assume that with a woman he would just sleep next to her, being unaroused … now, with a man… – there, bible verse obeyed)

            • BarerMender
              BarerMender
              December 18, 2018 at 11:23 am | #

              If you translate it literally, it says, “You shall not have the lyings of a man in the lyings of a woman.” Maybe you know what that means, but I sure don’t.

              • BBCC
                BBCC
                December 18, 2018 at 12:41 pm | #

                It means in woman’s space, or so I’ve heard. Basically ‘don’t fuck guys in women’s beds, c’mon guys, don’t be fucking rude.’

              • R_r
                R_r
                December 18, 2018 at 6:52 pm | #

                That sounds like a machine translation. I wouldn’t really call something a “literal” translation if it’s grammatically incorrect, unless the original is incorrect in the original language’s grammatical rules.

                • Delicious Taffy
                  Delicious Taffy
                  December 18, 2018 at 9:02 pm | #

                  If it reads like a Gurgi quote, maybe double-check your work.

    • Pablo360
      Pablo360
      December 18, 2018 at 3:26 pm | #

      I love how that series just sort of slowly got gayer and gayer over time until Alucard was all but explicitly (heh) genderfluid.

  5. ShinyNeen
    ShinyNeen
    December 18, 2018 at 12:05 am | #

    Okay, okay, so Amber and Walky are going to have their important conversation while lying on the floor. And Joyce is distracted by accidentally getting hooked on some of Amber’s slashfic. And, since I’m pretty sure we haven’t seen her leave, I’m going to assume Dina is still there, eating mcnuggets and just kinda watching.

    I think I love this scene.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      December 18, 2018 at 12:07 am | #

      Dina is basically us, just chilling out and watching all of this unfold.

      • ShinyNeen
        ShinyNeen
        December 18, 2018 at 12:12 am | #

        Look, Dina synchronization or no, you’re not going to convince me to go out at midnight to get some mcnuggets.

        • Yet_One_More_Idiot
          Yet_One_More_Idiot
          December 18, 2018 at 12:59 am | #

          O, aren’t I? 😉

          • Clif
            Clif
            December 18, 2018 at 1:12 am | #

            Dina has gone into Ninja mode and everyone has forgotten she is there.

            • Deanatay
              Deanatay
              December 18, 2018 at 8:17 am | #

              She just steps behind the door and *poof* what Dina?

        • Khyrin
          Khyrin
          December 18, 2018 at 5:18 am | #

          I imagine unbreaded chicken tenderloins from the freezer would do in a pinch 😛

    • Sporky
      Sporky
      December 18, 2018 at 12:08 am | #

      Yeah, I’d love to see this moment in a wide shot.

    • CJ
      CJ
      December 18, 2018 at 5:22 am | #

      Is is slashfic Amber has written or was busy reading?

      • ShinyNeen
        ShinyNeen
        December 18, 2018 at 6:28 pm | #

        Uncertain! But it works either way, really.

  6. Dean
    Dean
    December 18, 2018 at 12:06 am | #

    “Soon she’ll ask what ‘safeword’ means though, so be ready for that.”

    • Felian
      Felian
      December 18, 2018 at 8:02 am | #

      or just why they are saying random colors.

  7. Opus the Poet
    Opus the Poet
    December 18, 2018 at 12:06 am | #

    Is Joyce reading “Batman Peens Superman”?

    • butts
      butts
      December 18, 2018 at 12:07 am | #

      dawn of butt-stuff

      • shadowcell
        shadowcell
        December 18, 2018 at 12:35 am | #

        the safe word is Martha

        • Blanche Quizno
          Blanche Quizno
          December 18, 2018 at 1:24 am | #

          “My safe word is ‘Martha’.” “Mine too.”

      • DrWattson
        DrWattson
        December 18, 2018 at 5:43 am | #

        Wouldn’t the obvious subtitle be “Dawn of Just-Ass”?

        • HeySo
          HeySo
          December 18, 2018 at 8:43 am | #

          Here’s something for you (nothing remotely NSFW, but the topic obviously is):
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZkVuSHjtik

          tl;dr version: JusticeJust-Ass is coming.

      • Br44n5m
        Br44n5m
        December 18, 2018 at 2:19 pm | #

        Just-ass league

  8. Kris
    Kris
    December 18, 2018 at 12:06 am | #

    They’re not friends they’re enemies cause that’s a Dark Knight Returns slashfic!

    • Arianod
      Arianod
      December 18, 2018 at 12:35 am | #

      But they’re extremely good enemies!

    • showler
      showler
      December 18, 2018 at 5:25 am | #

      It’s a prequel entitled “The Dark Knight Comes”

  9. Rotunda
    Rotunda
    December 18, 2018 at 12:06 am | #

    “I think I slept”, i.e. Amazi-Girl didn’t go out last night.

    • ditrysia
      ditrysia
      December 18, 2018 at 12:09 am | #

      I caught that too. This is concerning to me as it confirms.how much Amber really has no idea avout what AG does.

    • BarerMender
      BarerMender
      December 18, 2018 at 12:32 am | #

      Thanks. I didn’t catch that.

    • StClair
      StClair
      December 18, 2018 at 12:38 am | #

      She thinks. She isn’t and can’t be certain.
      Yeah, that’s… not good.

    • Lingo
      Lingo
      December 18, 2018 at 12:41 am | #

      God I would hope so, after first beating up Sal, and then getting beat up by Sal, and THEN going out for a night of Roller Derby! I imagine Amazi-Girl woke up that night — all sore from head to toe — and was all, “Nope, fuck this shit, I’m going back to sleep!”

      • Clif
        Clif
        December 18, 2018 at 1:20 am | #

        It’s also possible that Amazigirl fills a need and with the combination of her relationship with Sal and the outlet for controlled violence that Roller Derby provides, that Amazigirl just didn’t wake up. Doesn’t mean that she’s gone away.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        December 18, 2018 at 7:06 am | #

        That was my first thought, but I wonder if there’s something deeper going on. Likely months before we find out. Even if she does wake up tonight.

        • Roborat
          Roborat
          December 18, 2018 at 3:10 pm | #

          Amber should ask Dina about that, she would probably know if A-G went out.

  10. SailorCakes
    SailorCakes
    December 18, 2018 at 12:06 am | #

    The best of friends

  11. Kern Wallace
    Kern Wallace
    December 18, 2018 at 12:07 am | #

    Wondering what shenanigans will inevitably interrupt this important talk.

    My money’s on ninjas busting down the door.

    • Tacos
      Tacos
      December 18, 2018 at 12:20 am | #

      I’m betting on Walky and Amber having to explain stuff like “safeword” to Joyce.

    • saltchocolate
      saltchocolate
      December 18, 2018 at 1:25 am | #

      *ninjas = Mike

    • Opus the Poet
      Opus the Poet
      December 18, 2018 at 2:54 am | #

      Always. Expect. Ninjas.
      http://grrlpowercomic.com/archives/346

  12. regina phalange
    regina phalange
    December 18, 2018 at 12:07 am | #

    Alright, it’s adorable that Walky knew Joyce would be preoccupied just from the fact that he noticed she noticed the fanfiction.

    And it’s adorable Joyce is preoccupied by it, although I’m sure it’s no Stucky.

    • lilyliv
      lilyliv
      December 18, 2018 at 12:10 am | #

      Honestly… I love their weird friendship.

  13. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    December 18, 2018 at 12:09 am | #

    I love that Joyce and Walky know each other pretty well at this point.

  14. MatthewTheLucky
    MatthewTheLucky
    December 18, 2018 at 12:09 am | #

    “Friend all over my face, PharaohBruce!”

    • FacelessDeviant
      FacelessDeviant
      December 18, 2018 at 1:46 am | #

      faaaaace!

    • Delicious Taffy
      Delicious Taffy
      December 18, 2018 at 1:46 pm | #

      Thanks for that.

  15. BBCC
    BBCC
    December 18, 2018 at 12:10 am | #

    So, I’m guessing this is the Time for Backstory talk, but Amber, you should probably consider having the Dissociation talk and the “Swapped your grades” talk soonish.

    I know, I know, one at a time, but both of those have a LOT of potential to blow up in your face, honey.

    • Charlotte
      Charlotte
      December 18, 2018 at 11:29 am | #

      Very good point.

      But has Amber really admitted the Dissociation thing to anyone? I’m not even sure Ethan knows, and nor does Danny.
      There’s this one scene in the dorm lounge involving Amber and I think Danny (although it might have been Ethan) saying something like “Glad you two are getting along” and Amber thinks he means her and Amazigirl, when really he meant her and Sal, and is subsequently confused about Amber’s reply about “sharing the same body”.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        December 18, 2018 at 11:45 am | #

        No. She hasn’t.
        She’s hinted at it. She’s occasionally talked like the other person already knew – that scene with Danny is an example of that. But she’s never really tried to explain it.
        She did say to her mom and Joe’s dad, “Sometimes I disassociate and fight criminals”, but they lacked any context to understand that she was actually being literal there. Even that wouldn’t necessarily imply distinct alters – there are other forms of disassociation that would be more common.

        • Fart Captor
          Fart Captor
          December 18, 2018 at 12:30 pm | #

          That is some next level nitpicking. She *literally* tried to explain it to Danny. You can say she didn’t do a great job of it, but she absolutely did try. Though Danny may not have followed it all, he definitely seemed to understand more than he did before, so I’d say she was at least partially successful

          There’s also the strip Charlotte was referring to (which was actually Danny again, not Ethan) where Amber misunderstands Danny’s question as being about her and Amazi-Girl instead of about her and Sal. Given how Danny didn’t seem even slightly confused and simply clarified who he had meant, I think we can assume he understands.

          I would also feel pretty safe simply assuming she’s told Ethan at least as much if not more, even without solid evidence of that having occurred.

          It wouldn’t surprise me if Dina had picked up on that too and not just about Amazi-Girl, but I don’t think it’s very likely Amber has deliberately had a conversation about it with her

          • BBCC
            BBCC
            December 18, 2018 at 12:44 pm | #

            http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/04-walking-with-dina/socialcircumstances/

            I’d venture that, even if the word dissociation hasn’t come to her head, Dina knows more than she’s let on.

            • Daibhid C
              Daibhid C
              December 18, 2018 at 1:41 pm | #

              The fact Dina thinks Amazi-Girl is referring to Amber as a different person for her benefit does not suggest to me that she realises Amazi-Girl actually sees Amber as a different person.

              • regina phalange
                regina phalange
                December 18, 2018 at 2:04 pm | #

                I’m actually pretty confused by the writing on that particular strip in general. Dina is clearly aware that there are two personas, and that she *should* consider them separate people. But she also interprets Amazigirl’s natural slip of referring to “Amber” instead of “I” as “carefully labelling” when it was not intentional, indicating that she would assume it would be more natural for both personas to just say “I” all the time instead of talking about each other as if different people.

                Maybe Dina understands the big picture, but doesn’t understand how severely the personas are disassociated? That’s my guess.

                • Fart Captor
                  Fart Captor
                  December 18, 2018 at 5:34 pm | #

                  I think Dina just means the mask.

                  In that strip, Amazi-Girl was talking in panels 1 & 2, and Amber removes the mask as she starts talking in panel 3.

                  It makes Amber’s correction in panel 3 clear that what’s changed is that Amber is now talking about herself instead of Amazi-Girl talking about her. Without a visual cue to indicate the switch, it could have been taken to be Amazi-Girl still talking, and correcting herself to say she was the one exhausted in social situations, not Amber.

                  You’d have to know both personalities well enough to know that Amber is the introverted one to resolve that ambiguity, but you’d have a hard time learning whose personality traits are whose if you don’t have some way to tell which of them is talking in the first place

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            December 18, 2018 at 3:14 pm | #

            When did she literally try to explain it to Danny? I may be forgetting something.
            That strip Charlotte referred to was the example of talking about it as if he already understood, but it’s not really explanation. As far as I know, that’s the clearest she’s been with anyone and it’s clearly her talking about how their relationship is going, not explaining its existence.

            I do think Danny has mostly figured it out, and that strip may have been a large part of it. I do think he was confused there and saying he’d meant her and Sal was stalling while he tried to process it. Then Amber pushed him away before they could really talk more.
            She’s also told him since that she think’s AG’s going out at night, but Faz was there and she couldn’t explain then either.

            It’s possible she’s told Ethan in detail, but I don’t think we’ve seen anything to indicate it. He knew about Amazi-Girl to start with, but the split was much less pronounced then.

            • Fart Captor
              Fart Captor
              December 18, 2018 at 4:21 pm | #

              Right here, and in the strip afterwards:

              http://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-7/02-everything-youve-ever-wanted/pokestop/

              No, she’s not using clinical terms or explaining every detail, but she is clearly indicating that there is a separation between Amber and Amazi-Girl. Danny clearly understands that much, because he’s not disputing that or asking for clarification even though he’s in the middle of standing up for himself and demanding an explanation.

              There’s also the whole “Amber is allowed to be inconsistent” chat they had ages ago. Stuff like that has come up multiple times. She clearly didn’t feel any need to hide that from him.

              The reason Danny was able to figure it out was because Amber talked to him about it. Maybe she didn’t sit him down and give him a detailed lecture explaining everything she knew about how fucked up her brain is, but it turns out that’s not the only way to talk to people about your mental illness. Bringing it up in bits and pieces over time still counts as talking about it.

              Maybe *I’m* the one being nit-picky now, but if you think she needs to talk about it at greater length, or in greater detail, or just more explicitly than we’ve seen so far, fuckin’ say THAT. Saying “she never really tried to explain it” simply because there was room for her to be misunderstood rubs me entirely the wrong way.

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                December 18, 2018 at 5:30 pm | #

                Different reads on it, I guess.

                I still see that as her talking as if he already knows and him struggling to catch on. She’s definitely not hiding it from him, but not actually explaining it either. She’s certainly talking about them as if they’re two different people, but that’s different than actually trying to explain. Even awkwardly and without clinical language.
                Part of it of course is that Danny always winds up needing to focus on other parts and/or driving her off/being driven away himself before he can actually ask questions about it.

                Let’s say that if she wants to bring Walky up to speed on this without taking the weeks (and the breakup) that it took for Danny to get it, she’s going to have to be a lot clearer than she ever has been.

                • Fart Captor
                  Fart Captor
                  December 18, 2018 at 5:51 pm | #

                  She’s actually explaining it.

                  Mental illness is not exactly an easy or fun thing to talk about. Just revealing it to someone can be scary, and actually getting them to understand something they’ve never experienced and which you may not fully understand yourself is a difficult task.

                  Amber doesn’t owe it to Walky to explain it to him at all. She should take whatever time she needs to feel comfortable and safe talking about it with him.

                  She didn’t owe that to Danny either. She owed him an explanation for their breakup since she still wanted to be friends with him and he was justly upset at how arbitrary it had seemed to him, but that’s it

                • BBCC
                  BBCC
                  December 18, 2018 at 6:17 pm | #

                  I do think some explanation is necessary before she and Walky get too physical though, if only because it would be massively MASSIVELY not okay to use a body she shares with AG to bang someone without her knowing. Nobody wants her to wake up with Walky in her bed and not know what the hell happened – or for Walky to not know why the person he thinks is his girlfriend is freaking out.

                • thejeff
                  thejeff
                  December 18, 2018 at 6:51 pm | #

                  I understand that it’s difficult. I don’t intend to attack her or blame her for not doing so. I simply do not see an explanation in any of those scenes. Or even an attempt at one.

                  I prefer not to talk about these things in terms of “owing”. The connotations are all wrong for how I think about it. And I said nothing about her having to, I said “If she wants to”.
                  And whether or not she owes him anything, her not making it clear to him is very likely to damage their budding relationship, especially if Walky is confronted with it unexpectedly. Which could happen in bed, as BBCC suggests, or just through Walky running into Amazi-Girl some night and having no reason not to treat her like his girlfriend.
                  That she and Amazi-Girl aren’t talking just complicates things even more.

              • Charlotte
                Charlotte
                December 19, 2018 at 9:53 am | #

                Fart Captor, I think you’re assuming the general population knows way more about these rare kinds of mental disorder than they actually do.
                For most people (including me) I think it is really hard to grasp that Amber and Amazigirl are two distinct personas that have nothing to do with each other beyond being in the same brain and body. I know nothing about this disorder in a clinical or scientific sense.

                Amber’s friends do mostly not see her as mentally ill, so I think the possibility of her having such a severe mental disorder has just not entered their heads. Danny has been shown repeatedly to be confused by Amber making this strong distinction between her and Amazigirl. I really don’t think he’s grasped how severe this is, and neither has Ethan.
                If they had, I would really hope that they’d tried much harder to get Amber to seek treatment.

  16. Mr. Random
    Mr. Random
    December 18, 2018 at 12:10 am | #

    I’m wondering if Amber’s misconceptions of gay sex and Joyce’s denial is strong enough that Joyce’ll leave thinking she just read a super friendly story, despite knowing different.

    • Mollyscribbles
      Mollyscribbles
      December 18, 2018 at 2:56 am | #

      From my memories of low-research slash, she’s at least going to have the impression that they got in an intense workout featuring wrestling and acrobatics.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        December 18, 2018 at 11:46 am | #

        I suspect, even with the misconceptions, it’s still likely to be pretty explicit.

  17. Raen
    Raen
    December 18, 2018 at 12:15 am | #

    And now we know why Joyce wants to be such good friends with Dorothy.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      December 18, 2018 at 12:53 am | #

      The best of friends.

      Friend of Dorothy

      Gals being pals

  18. Tacos
    Tacos
    December 18, 2018 at 12:19 am | #

    And now Joyce has discovered slashfic.

    • Clif
      Clif
      December 18, 2018 at 1:23 am | #

      This is true.

    • Roborat
      Roborat
      December 18, 2018 at 3:13 pm | #

      And coming soon, Joyce discovers spontaneous orgasms.

  19. Cholma
    Cholma
    December 18, 2018 at 12:23 am | #

    Joyce would just love the Ambiguously Gay Duo!

  20. Teddae
    Teddae
    December 18, 2018 at 12:24 am | #

    Why are the panels red though?

    • Tacos
      Tacos
      December 18, 2018 at 12:28 am | #

      I think that’s just the floor.

      • Blanche Quizno
        Blanche Quizno
        December 18, 2018 at 1:27 am | #

        I think the red represents Amber’s stress levels.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          December 18, 2018 at 7:07 am | #

          As we saw with the sunset framing the Sal/Amber fight, it can be both.

  21. Bobcat
    Bobcat
    December 18, 2018 at 12:25 am | #

    “…oh, hello Robin!”

    5 minutes later, Joyce’s brain explodes.

  22. Bagge
    Bagge
    December 18, 2018 at 12:27 am | #

    Two more panels and there will be no whites left in her eyes. They will be all blue.

    • Tacos
      Tacos
      December 18, 2018 at 12:30 am | #

      And that’s when she develops the ability to shoot Laser Death Eye Beams.

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        December 18, 2018 at 12:36 am | #

        Nah, she can do that already. John was lucky he walked out of that diner alive.

        http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/angry-3/

    • ShinyNeen
      ShinyNeen
      December 18, 2018 at 12:36 am | #

      How many panels until the blue has consumed the entire room?

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        December 18, 2018 at 12:50 am | #

        Depends on if Amber finished writing the juicy parts.

    • newllend(henryvolt)
      newllend(henryvolt)
      December 18, 2018 at 1:51 am | #

      Very easy slope for her to go down.

      • Agemegos
        Agemegos
        December 18, 2018 at 6:07 am | #

        I see what you did there!

  23. kitty
    kitty
    December 18, 2018 at 12:30 am | #

    what if joyce starts to look fanfiction porn in stead of visual porn because its easier to disconnect from from the shame brain when your reading about dongs than when you look at dongs (based on my research)

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      December 18, 2018 at 12:36 am | #

      She wouldn’t be the first to do so.

    • AntJ
      AntJ
      December 18, 2018 at 12:41 am | #

      oof

      can high-key relate

    • Mollyscribbles
      Mollyscribbles
      December 18, 2018 at 3:01 am | #

      Honestly, fanfic taught me more about sex on a practical level than school ever did.

      Probably for the best I’m ace.

  24. StClair
    StClair
    December 18, 2018 at 12:32 am | #

    they’re Super Friends!

    • PSadlon
      PSadlon
      December 18, 2018 at 2:05 am | #

      I honestly don’t know whether to congratulate on that one or drown you in a toilet.

  25. Bagge
    Bagge
    December 18, 2018 at 12:36 am | #

    DUDE SMUT!!!

  26. Nevermaker
    Nevermaker
    December 18, 2018 at 12:38 am | #

    This is opening up a whole new world for Joyce: this is either going to be absolutely amazing or absolutely terrible, there is no in-between.

  27. Bagge
    Bagge
    December 18, 2018 at 12:48 am | #

    I find Amber’s behaviour very promising. She doesn’t make excuses, she doesn’t bolt. She is sad and braces herself for a difficult conversation, but there is no sign of the earlier trauma.

    This might go well!

    • rectilinearpropagation
      rectilinearpropagation
      December 18, 2018 at 1:19 am | #

      I think it might go well for Amber but I’m worried about how Walky will handle being dumped again so soon.

      • Clif
        Clif
        December 18, 2018 at 1:25 am | #

        Say what now?

      • Nah
        Nah
        December 18, 2018 at 1:53 am | #

        Is he getting dumped? I think he’s more going to get an infodump, that she has a bad past with his sister and now is on a roller derby team with her and see if he’s still cool with their dating knowing that?

        • Rectilinear Propagation
          Rectilinear Propagation
          December 18, 2018 at 2:01 pm | #

          I guess “We need to talk” just automatically made me assume the worst possible thing and/or a break up specifically, but this makes more sense.

          • Roborat
            Roborat
            December 18, 2018 at 3:16 pm | #

            Yes, that was my first reaction as well. The phrase “we need to talk” instantly set off my incoming break up alarm.

            • thejeff
              thejeff
              December 18, 2018 at 5:32 pm | #

              Yeah, but we know what she needs to talk to Walky about, so the obvious reaction doesn’t fit this case.
              Interestly, Walky doesn’t seem to have that reaction here.

  28. TrueVCU
    TrueVCU
    December 18, 2018 at 12:52 am | #

    [Blushing intensifies]

  29. rectilinearpropagation
    rectilinearpropagation
    December 18, 2018 at 1:18 am | #

    OMG, I did not anticipate Joyce discovering smutty fan-fic!

    …Is this going to end the same way as when she looked up the Roz/Joe video where she just feels bad and then I feel bad?

    • newllend(henryvolt)
      newllend(henryvolt)
      December 18, 2018 at 5:35 am | #

      I’m wondering if the lack of imagery will be a factor.

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      December 18, 2018 at 11:31 am | #

      I always thought that was because she recognized Joe in it (and to a lesser extent, Robin), and brought up her nascent “I love these people and I am torn at how they (who aren’t, as it turns out, evil or hellbound) can do this and I have these feelings and I can’t act on them“.

      A couple of strangers, in the written word, may be different.

  30. toby
    toby
    December 18, 2018 at 1:20 am | #

    Next strip: Joyce decides to work some m/m romance into her ongoing sci-fi webcomic.

    • UniqueSnowflake2
      UniqueSnowflake2
      December 18, 2018 at 4:13 am | #

      As long as it’s not “Nathan” x “Ike”.

  31. Keulen
    Keulen
    December 18, 2018 at 1:34 am | #

    I would love to see more strips of Joyce reading Amber’s smutty fanfics.

  32. fire_daws
    fire_daws
    December 18, 2018 at 1:48 am | #

    Gah! Red panels! I thought I’d seen the last of you.

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      December 18, 2018 at 2:23 am | #

      Actually, I think that’s the colour of Amber’s bed covers.

  33. Ophidiophile
    Ophidiophile
    December 18, 2018 at 1:50 am | #

    Oh, no. Dorothy, don’t google anything you read that you don’t understand.

    • Mollyscribbles
      Mollyscribbles
      December 18, 2018 at 3:02 am | #

      SAFESEARCH ON! SAFESEARCH ON!

      • Shade
        Shade
        December 18, 2018 at 10:13 am | #

        Its Amber’s computer. Safesearch is not on.

        • Roborat
          Roborat
          December 18, 2018 at 3:19 pm | #

          Not only is safesearch not on, it has ejected itself out of the computer and is shivering catatonically in the corner.

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        December 18, 2018 at 3:59 pm | #

        Is that a Dale reference? Nice.

    • timemonkey
      timemonkey
      December 18, 2018 at 8:56 am | #

      I’m sure Dorothy understands things just fine. Joyce probably won’t though.

      • CJ
        CJ
        December 18, 2018 at 2:46 pm | #

        Joyce has become careful about googling ever since the Dildo-incident.

  34. PSadlon
    PSadlon
    December 18, 2018 at 2:03 am | #

    And thus Joyce becomes the equivalent of a fujoshi.

    • Roborat
      Roborat
      December 18, 2018 at 3:21 pm | #

      As long as she isn’t a futanari, all is good. (for the love of all that is wholesome, do NOT look that up).

      • Delicious Taffy
        Delicious Taffy
        December 18, 2018 at 8:32 pm | #

        Uh, is there some sort of problem with futanari I’m not familiar with?

        • Roborat
          Roborat
          December 20, 2018 at 2:55 pm | #

          Them specifically, no. Some of the porn based on that concept, on the other hand . . .

  35. abysswatcher1993
    abysswatcher1993
    December 18, 2018 at 2:08 am | #

    Joyce would be disappointed if she watched Batman v Superman and Justice League.

  36. BenRG
    BenRG
    December 18, 2018 at 2:23 am | #

    I think that this is the point where Amber tells Walky that she strongly believes that she has DID. I also suspect that this is the point where Walky tells her that he doesn’t care (after taking a while to understand what this is supposed to mean).

    • Emily
      Emily
      December 18, 2018 at 6:42 am | #

      He may be less okay with “Oh and I stabbed your sister and then stalked and harassed her for the last couple of weeks” and “I changed your grades despite you specifically telling me not to and now you’re at risk of expulsion if anyone finds out.” Walky is my last hope for Amber actually facing consequences for how she treated Sal and that’s a grim thought.

      • Roger
        Roger
        December 18, 2018 at 9:20 am | #

        I don’t trust the timing on this; it’s too soon from the last super dramatic moment. Either Walkys gonna be an Idiot, they’re gonna avoid talking about it for a while or it’s gonna be undersold I think.

        • Emily
          Emily
          December 18, 2018 at 9:48 am | #

          Oh I fully expect Amber to be a total chickenshit about this.

  37. Ninjamaid
    Ninjamaid
    December 18, 2018 at 2:31 am | #

    Uh oh, Joyce’s first fanfiction. Which is also slash…

    As someone who came from a similar christian background, this could take her off the grid for a couple of weeks

    • Mollyscribbles
      Mollyscribbles
      December 18, 2018 at 2:52 am | #

      She might’ve read some Dexter and Monkey Master genfic. But yeah, this is a whole new ballgame.

      • Uly
        Uly
        December 18, 2018 at 6:54 am | #

        She sounded pretty surprised at the fact that this “prose story” existed in the first place.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      December 18, 2018 at 3:03 am | #

      Not ENTIRELY her first. And given her favorite movie, I’m pretty sure she has seen at least some hot werewolf-on-vampire action before.

      http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-2/01-pajama-jeans/gross/

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        December 18, 2018 at 3:06 am | #

        Ethan gave her the heads up here: http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/03-the-butterflies-fly-away/forthright/

        • Bagge
          Bagge
          December 18, 2018 at 3:37 am | #

          This is knowledge she should not have.

          • BBCC
            BBCC
            December 18, 2018 at 4:10 am | #

            And yet…

        • ValdVin
          ValdVin
          December 18, 2018 at 3:57 pm | #

          Great callback to another blushing Joyce.

  38. OnyxIdol
    OnyxIdol
    December 18, 2018 at 2:37 am | #

    And thus, a Yaoi fangirl is born.

    • OnyxIdol
      OnyxIdol
      December 18, 2018 at 2:38 am | #

      Is it Yaoi though when both guys are ridiculous slabs of man meat

      • Mollyscribbles
        Mollyscribbles
        December 18, 2018 at 2:51 am | #

        Yaoi tends to be used to refer to dudes from anime or manga smoochin’; with Batman and Superman, it’s more slashfic.

        I mean, IIRC there’s a Batman manga, but this is still prose.

      • Vukodlak
        Vukodlak
        December 18, 2018 at 5:12 am | #

        Batman and Superman aren’t ridiculousn slabs of man meat?

        • OnyxIdol
          OnyxIdol
          December 18, 2018 at 6:09 am | #

          No, they are. When I think Yaoi I think teenage pretty boys. Might be wrong on that account though, not a Yaoi expert.

          • Emily
            Emily
            December 18, 2018 at 6:51 am | #

            You’re sorta right? Like yaoi is usually referring to men-loving-men media from Japan (or inspired by media from Japan) geared towards and created by straight woman for straight woman which does tend to lean stylistically more towards pretty boys or bishounen. Generally media featuring more traditionally masculine men is created by gay men for gay men and is called bara.

            • Roborat
              Roborat
              December 18, 2018 at 3:26 pm | #

              Well said, that was my understanding as well, Yaoi tends to be more sparkly bishi boys, and has very little connection with male gay porn, didn’t know that was called bara, however, so thank you for that bit of learning.

    • Emily
      Emily
      December 18, 2018 at 6:52 am | #

      Yaoi fangirls make me so uncomfortable they’re not actually any better than straight dudes drooling over lesbians but fandom culture pretends they’re totally not grossly objectifying gay men.

  39. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    December 18, 2018 at 3:02 am | #

    And thus Joyce discovered the dazzling world of Yaoi

  40. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    December 18, 2018 at 3:19 am | #

    First iguanas and now yaoi. Oh to be a young first-year college student again.

  41. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    December 18, 2018 at 4:39 am | #

    Crap, hours later I figured what exactly she meant by “I *think* I slept”. … :/

  42. BenRG
    BenRG
    December 18, 2018 at 4:57 am | #

    This strip combined with Joyce’s reaction to watching Joe and Roz’s sex tape suggests that it is only a matter of time before Joyce jumps someone!

    • Rowen Morland
      Rowen Morland
      December 18, 2018 at 5:09 am | #

      She might find she likes theory stuff more than physical stuff. But you might be right!

    • Agemegos
      Agemegos
      December 18, 2018 at 6:17 am | #

      I’m hoping for a dramatic twist that makes if not Walky.

      • Rowen Morland
        Rowen Morland
        December 18, 2018 at 9:56 pm | #

        I think Walky would turn her down. But it would let her have an “I’ve kissed the lips that kissed you.” moment with Dorothy.

  43. Emily
    Emily
    December 18, 2018 at 6:53 am | #

    Just gonna go right ahead and look on someone else’s computer without even asking, eh Joyce?

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      December 18, 2018 at 6:55 am | #

      I’m honestly wondering if Amber deliberately left that tab open as a booby trap for the unwary!

      • Emily
        Emily
        December 18, 2018 at 7:07 am | #

        Let’s be real, it’s Amber she probably has like 173 tabs of slash open at any given time.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        December 18, 2018 at 7:13 am | #

        Kind of surprised it doesn’t lock. It’s not like Amber was using it before they came in.

        • BenRG
          BenRG
          December 18, 2018 at 8:06 am | #

          Amber idolises Batman (he’s the main inspiration for Amazi-Girl, after all). So, I wouldn’t be at all surprised if, like Batman, Amber is always prepared, right down to a Virtual Machine that she has open and unlocked on her laptop at all times to sucker people who think that they’re ‘borrowing’ her browser. So, they’ll be looking at her slash archive rather than all the schematics for Amazi-Girl’s gadgets!

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            December 18, 2018 at 11:33 am | #

            Seems like you could still lock the screen, then have that VM open for anyone who does get past is.

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        December 18, 2018 at 7:24 am | #

        “booby trap”

        Not ENTIRELY accurate. More like… “Dong trap”. Does that work?

        • Jade
          Jade
          December 18, 2018 at 9:38 pm | #

          Dong Decoy? Schlong Snare? Peen Pitfall?

  44. Uly
    Uly
    December 18, 2018 at 8:08 am | #

    I know a ridiculous number* of people who grew up in purity culture Christianity and only learned about consent once they started reading fanfic. So this could be great for Joyce!

    * In this context, even one is a ridiculous number, but it’s more than that.

  45. Bagge
    Bagge
    December 18, 2018 at 8:22 am | #

    I love how both Walky and Amber are basically, “huh, OK, so Joyce happened.”

  46. hof1991
    hof1991
    December 18, 2018 at 9:27 am | #

    It would be good to see Amber when she’s not desperately in need of sleep. AG’s evenings leave little time for sleep, so Amber would have many of the symptoms of a sleep apnea diagnosis. Not good, as I can attest.

    Poor decision making, irritable, depressed, listless. Not to mention the many purely physical issues, masked by her being 18 or 19.

  47. Cmd1095
    Cmd1095
    December 18, 2018 at 9:45 am | #

    Seeing Joyce’s reaction to the slashfic once she gets further in is going to be amazing

    • Roborat
      Roborat
      December 18, 2018 at 3:28 pm | #

      Either her brain or her panties are going to explode.

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        December 18, 2018 at 5:14 pm | #

        Well, we have a nomination for the next Porn Zone page…

  48. Meta
    Meta
    December 18, 2018 at 11:48 am | #

    Red panels

    • CianM1301
      CianM1301
      December 18, 2018 at 3:42 pm | #

      I think that’s the floor.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        December 18, 2018 at 4:12 pm | #

        It can be both.

  49. ǝ snow ʍousɐ
    ǝ snow ʍousɐ
    December 18, 2018 at 4:00 pm | #

    LIBIDO! yessss

  50. Jenny Islander
    Jenny Islander
    December 18, 2018 at 4:55 pm | #

    And fanfiction dot net claims another victim. Mua hahahahaaaaa.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      December 18, 2018 at 6:18 pm | #

      Amber uses AO3 because she is not on amateur hour. 😛

  51. stoodmuffin
    stoodmuffin
    December 18, 2018 at 6:25 pm | #

    Joyce reading Slash fic before she realizes, and/or knows and can’t stop reading, but with her innocent face… this is the CUTEST Joyce pannel. I’m framing it. I love it.

  52. stoodmuffin
    stoodmuffin
    December 18, 2018 at 6:26 pm | #

    I actually Like Walkie’s hair a lot? He’s like the grown up version of the Original “Magic school buses” Carlos in that pic, to me?

  53. ShinyNeen
    ShinyNeen
    December 18, 2018 at 6:41 pm | #

    Kind of a late thought, but props to Walky for his “we’re actually pretty good at talking” in panel 5. No cliche panic, all chill!

  54. a/snow mous/e
    a/snow mous/e
    December 18, 2018 at 8:03 pm | #

    I’m not seeing the alt-text on my phone

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      December 18, 2018 at 9:07 pm | #

      “just guys being superfriends”

  55. Jade
    Jade
    December 18, 2018 at 9:31 pm | #

    Not even Joyce can resist the sweet allure of the yaois ^o^.

  56. a4lbi
    a4lbi
    December 19, 2018 at 12:10 am | #

    “What’s better than this? Guys being dudes.”

  57. Kaidah
    Kaidah
    December 19, 2018 at 8:48 am | #

    “We need to talk.” The single worst sentence in the English language. This is not going to be good for Walky.

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