Okay, fair, but we’d need to call in someone to auspistice between them, since we want to keep this ashen. I’d suggest Joyce, but honestly I want her and Dorothy to become matesprits, so that’s out. Sarah, maybe? Kanaya’s everyone’s auspistice, but I highly doubt we can summon her.
I dunno, have we seen any definitive evidence Dorothy ISN’T into ladies? Because if not, I’m betting she might be willing to experiment if the chemistry was good.
(it’s just a word for a kind of romantic partner that you hate instead of love)
(trust me it actually makes total sense if you drop basically all your preconceived notions about what romance can be and then adopt an entirely different set of preconceived notions about what romance can be)
Perhaps by speaking it out loud, Becky is acknowledging her irrational jealousy of Dorothy’s close relationship with Joyce, while simultaneously rendering it absurd. It sounds like a healthy coping mechanism to me.
Yep, that’s my impression of it too. I think it may backfire though, because Dorothy is the type of person who can’t really shrug off this sort of thing as “Oh, that’s just an in-joke we do. Haha!” I’m sure that deep down, she’ll secretly nurse doubt and hurt about why she can’t get Becky to like her despite all of her efforts to stay friendly/professional.
“An in-joke we do” means both are OK to do that type of jokes. Otherwise it’s being the butt end of the joke. It also relies on both ends being sarcastic.
Maybe purely from Becky’s perspective, but she’s being pretty shitty to Dorothy who has not, to my recollection, done a thing to deserve it. Dorothy even helped Becky when Becky came to her about the chief of Staff thing, despite being in obvious emotional pain about it.
Her behavior is pretty mild really. And she’s ready to be there for Dorothy, like when she thought Dorothy would be upset about Walky hooking up with Amber. Though Dorothy might not realize that.
Because a part of Becky doesn’t want to be over Joyce. She also can’t really believe that there is no romantic sub-text between Joyce and Dorothy. However, I do believe in that second area she is one of a large group.
Including Dorothy, on some occasions. (Though I think she’s on team ‘No, Joyce literally doesn’t know that’s gay subtext.’ See: Friend of Dorothy, bagged lunch with scripture used in lesbian weddings.)
I’ve said this before but I think that the strongest blow Becky could face would be if Joyce and Dorothy start a romantic relationship and Becky just has to realise that she’s just not Joyce’s type.
Fast forward two weeks, Dina and Sarah stating before the college disciplinary review board that they knew nothing of the “Dina Sarah Joint Party”, and were studying for tests at the library.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but remember that while Dina is a registered student of IU, Becky is not; and since this is happening off-campus does the disciplinary review board even have any jurisdiction or say in the matter? At worst, underage use of alcohol and possession/use of marijuana is a civil matter and would be handled as such by Bloomington police.
I’m not a national (thank happenstance), but I *think* some US colleges have morality clauses in their enrollment. Like, if you do something that they decide reflects poorly on the college, they can kick you out.
They call it a “Code of Conduct”, not a morality clause, but it’s essentially the same thing. IU has one and it includes “Personal Misconduct Not on University Property” “such as alcohol and drug offenses, arson, battery, fraud, hazing, participation in group violence, stalking, or theft;”
Man, I know this is going to be an unpopular comment but I dislike Becky so much. Not as a character, but as a person. If I were her acquaintance, I’d do everything in my power to avoid her. She’s like a Robin who doesn’t even have the excuse of being emotionally dumb or hyperactive to be obnoxious and rude.
I’d seriously take Mike or Ruth at her worst instead.
Oh no, I’m totally with you. Came to the comments just to display my displeasure at Becky’s existence. She was fine at first, a little annoying, but she was okay. But she has become a horrible personality that insists that because Dorothy became Joyce’s BF for college, she’s gotta be shitty in every possible turn. Not exactly someone you should want to hang around, if she insists on being an asshole for something that ain’t even their fault. I do not like Becky, and no amount of charisma she displays will change my mind until she learns to fricken share.
My peeps, the joke is that she’s not an asshole to Dorothy. That she’s bad at being bad. Even here, where she puts Dorothy in an awkward situation, it’s purely by accident. She just wants to call someone “nemesis” without putting the asshole work in.
Yes, because telling a person exactly what she should do, constantly make them feel uncomfortable on purpose, and tell someone how she should feel about someone (even if it is themselves), is totally not an asshole thing to do. /sarcasm
Yes, that would be an asshole thing to do to a random person, or to someone who finds this sort of thing unwelcome. But that’s not happening here.
“Becky, we’re not enemies. We routinely come to each other for advice.” Dorothy (the only recipient of that behaviour) doesn’t take it seriously and clearly isn’t bothered or even annoyed by it. This isn’t Becky in general, this is Becky with one specific person who doesn’t mind.
It’d be like calling her an asshole for putting on a posh accent. It’s a bit much.
If she’s not bothered by it, why is she pointing it out? Dorothy doesn’t seem to focus on things unless it does bother her, like her falling grades, Walky’s Math issues, Joyce’s issues with sexual desire and self worth. Just a few off the top my head.
Also, so because Becky is a jerk to only one person, that makes it okay to be a jerk? You’re implying that someone could treat someone like all they are is a germ to be extinguished (that’s kinda how Becky has treated Dorothy since the second she’s met her), but as long as it’s just that one person, it’s okay? Yeeeah…no, I’m gonna call out that person’s B/S.
My friends (by which I mean D&D group) tease me all the time, and my response is usually deadpan. I feign confusion at the joke, or act as if their comments are completely serious, even though they know they aren’t and I know they aren’t. In other words, my friends are like Becky here and I am like Dorothy. I know they respect me and like me, just like Dorothy knows Becky likes and respects her. The teasing is just part of our comfortable dynamic, and I think the same kind of thing is going on here
And that’s normal! It’s perfectly normal and acceptable to tease a well known friend. One friend we constantly tease about being a child because she’s youngest. Another we call him a “boob” and I honestly have no clue why, it’s been his nickname since before I met him. But they are friends I’ve had for over a decade.
The things is, though, Becky and Dorothy are NOT well known friends. That’s my issue. Becky has always, from day one, insulted her. You don’t start out a friendship with insults, at least, I wouldn’t want to, it seems like a good way to get hurt. With Becky’s first two interactions with Dorothy calling her a “Bony Poindexter” and “Friend stealing hussy”, I’m can’t change my opinion of Becky until such a time as she gets better. I’m hoping that day comes someday, like when Becky’s finally over Joyce.
Ya’ll been saying “give proof she does mind”, I want proof she doesn’t mind. Maybe she doesn’t. Maybe she does. Maybe you all are right. Maybe I’m right. But unfortunately you can’t get in fictional character’s heads unless the author says so. I already know I’m not going to convince you. But you’re also not going to convince me what Becky does is okay. And don’t say “She would of said something if she minds” cause I have let people treat me like shit because it’d not worth the effort to voice argument, because it just makes it worse.
Eh, I get that. I understand this “joke” and I’m not offended on behalf of Dorothy. Still, it is annoying and this little feigned spat that she takes pleasure in perpetuating even though Dorothy has only shown her blanket level of tolerance at best is merely representative of her overall behaviour and attitude.
I guess that’s it, in the end: she’s got a “‘tude” which is something some people find cool or funny but I don’t. That’s why I made the distinction of disliking her at a personal level. I mean, Sal and Ruth have a ‘tude as well, but we’ve seen them being vulnerable and having a soft side that they are allowing to develop. Becky just ‘tudes through whatever challenge at the expense of introspection and character growth.
Arguably, it’s because Dorothy isn’t upset that Becky continues. That means it stays at the running joke level, not whatever evil some people are taking it as.
I wish the people who didn’t like me gave me important advice and invited me to their parties. The last one who had it out for me just verbally abused me for a year.
Well played, Becky. Dorothy underestimated you once, but never again. Her vengeance won’t be swift or entertaining. She will draw it out over decades in such a subtle fashion that you will have to wonder whether the misery in your life is either manifest, or the machinationsof Dorothy Keener or…a…third thing.
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in college, that’s EVERY party, like it or not
[inb4: haven’t felt anachronistic in a hot minute, bringing back the “classics”]
What is your new gravatar?
(I am a not-young. If it were Krazy Kat kissing Ignatz, I would recognize it.)
Dina and Sierra’s dads making out.
Ahh; thanx. Now I recognize them.
Well that is certainly a crack ship.
Better than Blowdad
(test to remember the third account)
Meredith has been coming around to see Blowjob Cat since she first heard about it. She cannot resist the knowledge that it exists. Except for joints.
Wouldn’t “BJ Katt’s” be a great name for a restaurant in Bloomington?
She already visited it the day she first heard about it.
Plot twist: Blaine and Toedad show up, wind up blazing it with Meredith, and chill out and decide these kids are alright.
Blaine strikes me as the meth and/or cocaine type.
He totally does coke and has ties with meth sales.
After two strips of cocaine, Blaine and Toedad woke up next to each other and screamed at the irony.
Yes.
Walky wakes up screaming next to Joyce in the previous webcomic.
DoA deserves a Newhart ending, when the time comes.
Unless it goes St. Elsewhere on us, showing Amber with a snow globe of that fountain on campus.
> “After two strips”
Either you’ve never done coke before or I’m completely unaware of how more well off people do their coke, either is very possible
Well that just means Sarah just has to go Old Testament god on their ass.
Flooding her arpartment wouldn’t be such a good move. Especially since the insurance people would say it was an act of god.
It’s gonna be pillars of salt all around. Y’know, for the margaritas.
I am more of a brimstone and fire person. Gotta grill some burgers while judging criminals.
Shit, now I want burgers.
Well this can only end well.
Meredith smokes the weed? But she said it was for a friend
Her friend is a good friend and shared it with her.
Meredith’s hat is settled.
Is that why she’s wearing a pot on her head?
Sure she will, Becky. Sure.
“You are posting too quickly. Slow down.” – You’re not my robot supervisor.
I, for one, welcome our robot supervisors!
It could only be an improvement over my human supervisor!
Did I say supervisors? I mean protectors! Merry Christmas fromSignus Beta Prime!
Hey, it’s getting to be that season again.
Becky just wants the key to Dotty’s spade. #justhomestuckthings
Kinda hope Danny gets high. That would be something special to see.
Would probably improve the Ukulele playing too.
Becky, just stop. Please.
Becky, never stop. Please.
I don’t think Becky knows of this “stop” you speak of.
Meredith would be interested in opening a joint bank account.
I’m sure it’s high on her list of priorities.
She weeded out the unimportant stuff.
something something marijuana something
They hashed it out.
THC y’all later!
Meredith’s sure got that ga-dank-a-dank.
It’d be a good place to stash her green.
Dorothy ::eats pepperoni anyway, while nemesis music plays::
Best idea of antagonism ever.
I assume nemesis music is just the score to the movie Star Trek: Nemesis.
Or Nemesis’s leitmotif from gen:LOCK.
That movie was terrible in all aspects.
Just use the fight music from Amok Time.
ah, Becky has learnt how to be a good host from her coworkers, I seee.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/04-vote-for-robin/inevitable-2/
It’s frenemy, Becky. FRENEMY. Know your terminology.
no, it’s “kismesis”
Okay, fair, but we’d need to call in someone to auspistice between them, since we want to keep this ashen. I’d suggest Joyce, but honestly I want her and Dorothy to become matesprits, so that’s out. Sarah, maybe? Kanaya’s everyone’s auspistice, but I highly doubt we can summon her.
I both love and hate y’all for making me think of these words, in this order, and myself for knowing EXACTLY what they mean.
(Never stop omg <3)
(I’m probably gonna be a filthy homestuck forever, no sense denying it. *wonk*)
*plays “One Toke Over The Line” on the stereo*
Strums: Wildwood Weed, on the Ukelele.
Pfft, hey there, Meredith.
Is Becky trying to make Dorothy her kismesis? Wrong tree and wrong species, Becky.
Okay but it’d be pretty great if it worked out though, right? 1000% win.
Seriously. Don’t limit quadrants purely to trolls and all that.
I dunno, have we seen any definitive evidence Dorothy ISN’T into ladies? Because if not, I’m betting she might be willing to experiment if the chemistry was good.
IIRC, when she was talking about the Kinsey scale with Danny (and briefly, Becky) back in the day, she described herself as “probably a zero?”.
What exactly is a kismesis?
#justhomestuckthings
(it’s just a word for a kind of romantic partner that you hate instead of love)
(trust me it actually makes total sense if you drop basically all your preconceived notions about what romance can be and then adopt an entirely different set of preconceived notions about what romance can be)
It also involves feeling love for someone, because you can’t only have hate. It’s like a rivalry where two parties make the other strong.
When it becomes too toxic and causes people to die, then you have to destroy that relationship with an orbital strike.
Ya a homestuck. Basically a slap-slap-kiss sort of thing
Okay, who invited Meredith?
Never mind, I got Meredith mixed up with Frieda. My bad.
Only cheese pizza for Dorothy, when she wants pepperoni?
Becky, all this power has gone to your head!
This is what happens when you embrace pragmatism and sacrifice ideals of progress! Pizza lovers are disappointed about her.
Hey, she is working for a GOP congressperson now. She’s got to learn to do cartoony EEEVVVIIILLL or she won’t fit any of the pop-culture tropes!
You need a nemesis or no one will take you seriously when you exercise global power.
Galasso would not be happy with Becky.
“You have not broken her spirit! You have merely confused her!”
I wondered when and how Robin would crash the party (“I’m tootes one of you kids!”), but then I remembered that Becky sent her to DC.
Crafty Becky.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2019/comic/book-9-comic/04-vote-for-robin/credibility/
I mentioned how Becky and Danny can only be maximum cool or minimum cool yesterday, and I was not expecting such immediate proof.
Becky is ever not maximum cool?
Forcing someone to eat the wrong pizza is minimum cool, yes.
I still don’t get why Becky keeps trying to claim that her and Dorothy are enemies. They clearly aren’t.
Perhaps by speaking it out loud, Becky is acknowledging her irrational jealousy of Dorothy’s close relationship with Joyce, while simultaneously rendering it absurd. It sounds like a healthy coping mechanism to me.
This is how I read it, though I don’t think Becky’s put too much thought into it
Yep, that’s my impression of it too. I think it may backfire though, because Dorothy is the type of person who can’t really shrug off this sort of thing as “Oh, that’s just an in-joke we do. Haha!” I’m sure that deep down, she’ll secretly nurse doubt and hurt about why she can’t get Becky to like her despite all of her efforts to stay friendly/professional.
“An in-joke we do” means both are OK to do that type of jokes. Otherwise it’s being the butt end of the joke. It also relies on both ends being sarcastic.
Maybe purely from Becky’s perspective, but she’s being pretty shitty to Dorothy who has not, to my recollection, done a thing to deserve it. Dorothy even helped Becky when Becky came to her about the chief of Staff thing, despite being in obvious emotional pain about it.
Her behavior is pretty mild really. And she’s ready to be there for Dorothy, like when she thought Dorothy would be upset about Walky hooking up with Amber. Though Dorothy might not realize that.
I think Dorothy is just as confused.
Becky, of course, runs on her own reality
Because a part of Becky doesn’t want to be over Joyce. She also can’t really believe that there is no romantic sub-text between Joyce and Dorothy. However, I do believe in that second area she is one of a large group.
Including Dorothy, on some occasions. (Though I think she’s on team ‘No, Joyce literally doesn’t know that’s gay subtext.’ See: Friend of Dorothy, bagged lunch with scripture used in lesbian weddings.)
Agreed, to all of the above.
And under all the Zany, that part of Becky is still plaintively asking, “you can be gay for her but not for me?“
I’ve said this before but I think that the strongest blow Becky could face would be if Joyce and Dorothy start a romantic relationship and Becky just has to realise that she’s just not Joyce’s type.
I mean, she has Dina now, but… yeah.
I’m all for that.
Meredith no.
Not that kind of joint, Meredith. Also, if you want to do that, you’ll have to do it in the back yard – Lease terms and all that.
Don’t ever invite her to a pot-luck dinner.
meredith no
meredith yes
I love how Dorothy despite all experience still try to reason with the madness
Which makes her the insane one if you think about it.
Fast forward two weeks, Dina and Sarah stating before the college disciplinary review board that they knew nothing of the “Dina Sarah Joint Party”, and were studying for tests at the library.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but remember that while Dina is a registered student of IU, Becky is not; and since this is happening off-campus does the disciplinary review board even have any jurisdiction or say in the matter? At worst, underage use of alcohol and possession/use of marijuana is a civil matter and would be handled as such by Bloomington police.
I’m not a national (thank happenstance), but I *think* some US colleges have morality clauses in their enrollment. Like, if you do something that they decide reflects poorly on the college, they can kick you out.
Indiana University is a public university, so it should be free of those.
Not sure about off campus, but if they did something on campus, they would be kicked out. As shown with the Roz sex tape.
http://www.dumbingofage.com/2011/comic/book-1/06-yesterday-was-thursday/obfuscate/
They call it a “Code of Conduct”, not a morality clause, but it’s essentially the same thing. IU has one and it includes “Personal Misconduct Not on University Property” “such as alcohol and drug offenses, arson, battery, fraud, hazing, participation in group violence, stalking, or theft;”
I know it’s unlikely, but I think we can all agree that Becky and Dina getting stoned together would be both hilarious and cute.
if the joint won’t make them throw up
….it’s kinda worrying that Becky can totes tell the ukulele is off-tune but Danny can’t.
She might just assume. With an ukulele, off-tune is never far. That may explain why it’s Danny’s instrument…
eh, only 4 strings. there is a loooooot worse.
The big joke about harps is you spend half the time tuning them and the other half playing off-tune.
You can always pretend to play some sonic youth tune
Is the house not smoke-free for Me-weed-ith to blaze it?
Only cheese and pepperoni? It’s classic, but half-and-half pizzas should shine in a joint, er, double party
Uh.
Sarah’s experience with people smoking pot is… not the best.
Yeah, good point I should have noticed already.
Who invited Meredith, anyway?
I’m not sure anybody invited her. She might just be passing outside the door and heard the words “joint party”?
Man, I know this is going to be an unpopular comment but I dislike Becky so much. Not as a character, but as a person. If I were her acquaintance, I’d do everything in my power to avoid her. She’s like a Robin who doesn’t even have the excuse of being emotionally dumb or hyperactive to be obnoxious and rude.
I’d seriously take Mike or Ruth at her worst instead.
Oh no, I’m totally with you. Came to the comments just to display my displeasure at Becky’s existence. She was fine at first, a little annoying, but she was okay. But she has become a horrible personality that insists that because Dorothy became Joyce’s BF for college, she’s gotta be shitty in every possible turn. Not exactly someone you should want to hang around, if she insists on being an asshole for something that ain’t even their fault. I do not like Becky, and no amount of charisma she displays will change my mind until she learns to fricken share.
My peeps, the joke is that she’s not an asshole to Dorothy. That she’s bad at being bad. Even here, where she puts Dorothy in an awkward situation, it’s purely by accident. She just wants to call someone “nemesis” without putting the asshole work in.
Yes, because telling a person exactly what she should do, constantly make them feel uncomfortable on purpose, and tell someone how she should feel about someone (even if it is themselves), is totally not an asshole thing to do. /sarcasm
Yes, that would be an asshole thing to do to a random person, or to someone who finds this sort of thing unwelcome. But that’s not happening here.
“Becky, we’re not enemies. We routinely come to each other for advice.” Dorothy (the only recipient of that behaviour) doesn’t take it seriously and clearly isn’t bothered or even annoyed by it. This isn’t Becky in general, this is Becky with one specific person who doesn’t mind.
It’d be like calling her an asshole for putting on a posh accent. It’s a bit much.
If she’s not bothered by it, why is she pointing it out? Dorothy doesn’t seem to focus on things unless it does bother her, like her falling grades, Walky’s Math issues, Joyce’s issues with sexual desire and self worth. Just a few off the top my head.
Also, so because Becky is a jerk to only one person, that makes it okay to be a jerk? You’re implying that someone could treat someone like all they are is a germ to be extinguished (that’s kinda how Becky has treated Dorothy since the second she’s met her), but as long as it’s just that one person, it’s okay? Yeeeah…no, I’m gonna call out that person’s B/S.
My friends (by which I mean D&D group) tease me all the time, and my response is usually deadpan. I feign confusion at the joke, or act as if their comments are completely serious, even though they know they aren’t and I know they aren’t. In other words, my friends are like Becky here and I am like Dorothy. I know they respect me and like me, just like Dorothy knows Becky likes and respects her. The teasing is just part of our comfortable dynamic, and I think the same kind of thing is going on here
And that’s normal! It’s perfectly normal and acceptable to tease a well known friend. One friend we constantly tease about being a child because she’s youngest. Another we call him a “boob” and I honestly have no clue why, it’s been his nickname since before I met him. But they are friends I’ve had for over a decade.
The things is, though, Becky and Dorothy are NOT well known friends. That’s my issue. Becky has always, from day one, insulted her. You don’t start out a friendship with insults, at least, I wouldn’t want to, it seems like a good way to get hurt. With Becky’s first two interactions with Dorothy calling her a “Bony Poindexter” and “Friend stealing hussy”, I’m can’t change my opinion of Becky until such a time as she gets better. I’m hoping that day comes someday, like when Becky’s finally over Joyce.
I’d like to see some evidence Dorothy’s actually upset by it before I get upset on her behalf.
Cool. You do you, I do me.
“with one specific person WHO DOESN’T MIND”
Ya’ll been saying “give proof she does mind”, I want proof she doesn’t mind. Maybe she doesn’t. Maybe she does. Maybe you all are right. Maybe I’m right. But unfortunately you can’t get in fictional character’s heads unless the author says so. I already know I’m not going to convince you. But you’re also not going to convince me what Becky does is okay. And don’t say “She would of said something if she minds” cause I have let people treat me like shit because it’d not worth the effort to voice argument, because it just makes it worse.
Eh, I get that. I understand this “joke” and I’m not offended on behalf of Dorothy. Still, it is annoying and this little feigned spat that she takes pleasure in perpetuating even though Dorothy has only shown her blanket level of tolerance at best is merely representative of her overall behaviour and attitude.
I guess that’s it, in the end: she’s got a “‘tude” which is something some people find cool or funny but I don’t. That’s why I made the distinction of disliking her at a personal level. I mean, Sal and Ruth have a ‘tude as well, but we’ve seen them being vulnerable and having a soft side that they are allowing to develop. Becky just ‘tudes through whatever challenge at the expense of introspection and character growth.
Becky has the strange idea from the media that being petty is being cool.
The irony being, of course, Dorothy isn’t upset just confused.
Arguably, it’s because Dorothy isn’t upset that Becky continues. That means it stays at the running joke level, not whatever evil some people are taking it as.
Seconded.
UGH….Becky is so mean!
I wish the people who didn’t like me gave me important advice and invited me to their parties. The last one who had it out for me just verbally abused me for a year.
Well played, Becky. Dorothy underestimated you once, but never again. Her vengeance won’t be swift or entertaining. She will draw it out over decades in such a subtle fashion that you will have to wonder whether the misery in your life is either manifest, or the machinationsof Dorothy Keener or…a…third thing.
Hey, isn’t that Leslie’s floor lamp in the background?
Robin says “Yep.”
That’s not a floor lamp, that’s a congressional aide.
Wrong kinda joint Meredith.
Meredith, just move to Illinois. It’s legal there.