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Bears

by David M Willis on February 10, 2019 at 12:01 am
  • 02 - But the Sun Still Shines
└ Tags: amber, danny, sal

Discussion (193) ¬

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    February 10, 2019 at 12:05 am | #

    “you haven’t heard of shipping?”

    “well yeah, my mom sent me a tiny box the other day”

    • Ana Chronistic
      Ana Chronistic
      February 10, 2019 at 12:05 am | #

      also: DANGEROUSLYclose to bugs

  2. Raen
    Raen
    February 10, 2019 at 12:06 am | #

    …wait, she doesn’t know about him and Ethan?

    • timemonkey
      timemonkey
      February 10, 2019 at 12:07 am | #

      Which she and all they’ve done is admit mutual attraction and agree not to pursue it. Neither Amber not Sal know Danny is bi.

    • Mr D
      Mr D
      February 10, 2019 at 12:11 am | #

      What about him and Ethan? They’re friends. Like Timemonkey says up here, they have admitted an attraction but decided that pursuing it would be the worst thng to do to Amber and not worth the drama.
      Ethan is happily dating some guy and “it’s complicated”ing Mike.

    • newllend(henryvolt)
      newllend(henryvolt)
      February 10, 2019 at 1:25 am | #

      Well Ethan is keeping himself open and is testing new experiences with new people which in all honesty is a smart move. But if anything this is a straight up green light from Amber for anyone who’s interested so there’s no reason Ethan can’t go after Danny.

      I mean he doesn’t really need permission or approval from her, but if he wants to keep tension away between him and Amber (and I know Ethan would want that considering how much he values his friendship with Amber) then the simple thing to do would be “Hey Amber, it wouldn’t put any strain on our friendship if I date your ex would it?”

      As simple as that

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        February 10, 2019 at 9:41 am | #

        It’s a little more complicated. It’s not just whether Danny has a “green light” to move on – it’s mostly all tied up with Ethan realizing he’s gay and breaking up because of it. Danny moving on to Ethan would be a huge echo of that.

        And bear in mind that Amber herself never even hinted at it being a problem and would likely support it. But a lot of the reasons she would aren’t exactly healthy ones.

    • Beef
      Beef
      February 10, 2019 at 5:12 am | #

      To be fair she already moved on to walky. If Danny and Ethan got together it should be guilt free imo

      • newllend(henryvolt)
        newllend(henryvolt)
        February 10, 2019 at 7:33 am | #

        That fact in it if itself is one big green light.

        • Clif
          Clif
          February 10, 2019 at 10:53 am | #

          Unfortunately Amber doesn’t know that there is an attraction between Danny and Ethan, though if she did she would definitely ship it. Neither Ethan nor Danny know about Walky and that Amber would no longer be hurt.

  3. timemonkey
    timemonkey
    February 10, 2019 at 12:06 am | #

    Danny and Sal? In what messed up universe would that happen?

    • Zach
      Zach
      February 10, 2019 at 12:12 am | #

      Inconceivable, I tell you.

      • butts
        butts
        February 10, 2019 at 12:16 am | #

        that’s almost as crazy as Walky and Joyce

        • Pablo360
          Pablo360
          February 10, 2019 at 12:45 am | #

          Not the ship, mind. It’s as crazy as those two people individually.

          • ǝ snow ʍousɐ
            ǝ snow ʍousɐ
            February 10, 2019 at 3:00 pm | #

            I mean, fair

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          February 10, 2019 at 7:44 am | #

          Or Rachel and Joe. That ship would sink right out of drydock.

    • Marsh Maryrose
      Marsh Maryrose
      February 10, 2019 at 12:18 am | #

      I was trying to look up the history of Danny and Sal, what popped up first was this:

      “Maybe I should stay away from people Amber knows.”

    • Ethics Gradient
      Ethics Gradient
      February 10, 2019 at 4:30 am | #

      It would have to be in a pretty dumb universe that’s for sure.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      February 10, 2019 at 9:34 am | #

      It’d have to be a pretty unlikely universe, that’s for sure. I mean, if aliens secretly tinkered with everyone’s DNA, then, MAYBE, but…

  4. Woomy
    Woomy
    February 10, 2019 at 12:07 am | #

    No she can’t. She called him a piece of shit. Danny doesn’t need that.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 10, 2019 at 12:16 am | #

      She doesn’t know about that, but yeah, that was a really gross episode for Amber. I liked a lot about Amber x Danny, but they’d really need to restructure their relationship if it got going again.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        February 10, 2019 at 1:50 am | #

        Not to mention, they’d have to work things out with AG too. After all, he’s AG’s ex.

        • Woomy
          Woomy
          February 10, 2019 at 3:27 am | #

          Amber needs to work things out with AG. By seeing a therapist.

          • Deanatay
            Deanatay
            February 10, 2019 at 9:39 am | #

            She worked things out with her nemesis, right? How much harder can working things out with AG be, right? Just, pass her some notes, or something.

            Then, when that’s done, she can sit down and have a nice murder TALK with Blaine…

    • LauraS
      LauraS
      February 10, 2019 at 7:07 am | #

      Yeah, except for the part where she didn’t do that. She was tempted to, stopped herself, and then beat herself up as if she had. Not saying it was a healthy relationship by any stretch of the imagination, but can we stick to criticizing Amber for the things she actually did?

      • DailyBrad
        DailyBrad
        February 11, 2019 at 12:02 am | #

        http://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/02-that-perfect-girl/amber-2/

        http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/buckle/

        The second one, in particular, is painfully reminiscent of “Touch her once, and she quits”.

  5. admiralnoob
    admiralnoob
    February 10, 2019 at 12:07 am | #

    It’s too late. I already ship Danny and Sal. Sure hope it doesn’t wreck as hard as Ruth and Billie probably will.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 10, 2019 at 12:19 am | #

      It’d be really cute, I think. Come to think of it, the two have a lot of notes to compare regarding parents who have like zero faith in you.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      February 10, 2019 at 1:51 am | #

      AO3 is the best – your ships don’t gotta be ruined there unless you want them to be!

    • Ninjamaid
      Ninjamaid
      February 10, 2019 at 3:15 am | #

      Didn’t Willis say that he wasn’t going to do ships that happened in the Walky!verse though?

      • Diner Kinetic
        Diner Kinetic
        February 10, 2019 at 11:28 am | #

        Yeah, I hadn’t started reading at the time of that post exactly but I remember hearing something similar – that being said, it seems like he’s freely used chunks of a lot of potential ships he’s hinted at or that didn’t really survive. Personally I just wish Gallasso X world domination for more screentime.

        I actually ship Danny and Noone, now that he’s single and comfortable and wearing that hat he’s actually a nerdy kind of really cool

  6. Rosicrucian
    Rosicrucian
    February 10, 2019 at 12:07 am | #

    If Amber, Joyce, and Lucy ever got together to compare shipping notes, the whole campus would tremble.

    • Stephen Bierce
      Stephen Bierce
      February 10, 2019 at 12:11 am | #

      Because Mike would show up, make one mark on their chalkboard, and the unison scream would drown out all other sounds including any Muzaks in operation.

      • MatthewTheLucky
        MatthewTheLucky
        February 10, 2019 at 1:33 am | #

        Dina -> Mary

        • Batman
          Batman
          February 10, 2019 at 11:30 am | #

          Drunken Joyce and Dina

          • MatthewTheLucky
            MatthewTheLucky
            February 10, 2019 at 6:57 pm | #

            Becky has very mixed feelings about this.

  7. Anthony Paoli
    Anthony Paoli
    February 10, 2019 at 12:08 am | #

    Ah, Danny Danny’d it up, we can all rest easy knowing the universe has righted itself.

    • Stu
      Stu
      February 10, 2019 at 7:13 am | #

      I don’t think so, given Sal’s smile at his response.

      • Anthony Paoli
        Anthony Paoli
        February 11, 2019 at 12:56 am | #

        A fair point, but I meant more that he ruined his “cool and collected” façade.

  8. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    February 10, 2019 at 12:09 am | #

    She was a hairy bear
    And she was a scary bear
    So he beat a fast retreat from the lair
    …
    –Apologies to Schoolhouse Rock

    • Sambo
      Sambo
      February 10, 2019 at 12:12 am | #

      Oh man, looks like I wandered into memory lane

      • Leorale
        Leorale
        February 10, 2019 at 12:27 am | #

        Oh, I’m a maid
        And I’m pure and fair
        I’ll never dance
        With a hairy bear

        I called the knight
        But you’re a bear
        All black and brown
        And covered in hair

    • Marsh Maryrose
      Marsh Maryrose
      February 10, 2019 at 1:05 am | #

      The great irony of this strip’s title is: none of them is in the least bit attracted to bears.

      • Clif
        Clif
        February 10, 2019 at 10:56 am | #

        We don’t know that.

    • StClair
      StClair
      February 10, 2019 at 4:03 am | #

      Let’s unpack this.

  9. Hazel
    Hazel
    February 10, 2019 at 12:10 am | #

    I love Sal’s eyeroll in panel three. I love her and Danny’s blooming friendship. I love the minute of non-awkward, non-angry conversation between Sal and Amber. Progress! Sweet, sweet emotional progress!

    • Ninjabuttocks
      Ninjabuttocks
      February 10, 2019 at 1:36 am | #

      It really is a welcome change! This panel feels so clean and untouched by malice!

  10. Mr D
    Mr D
    February 10, 2019 at 12:12 am | #

    So I’ve been thinking this over the last few days.
    I think the easiest way to describe Joyce would be “Mabel Pines but she was raised by Ned Flanders from Religious episodes in late seasons”

    • Ninjabuttocks
      Ninjabuttocks
      February 10, 2019 at 1:37 am | #

      You nailed it!

  11. BBCC
    BBCC
    February 10, 2019 at 12:15 am | #

    This strip should be retitled to Dorking of Age. It’d be just as apt. 😛

    I mean, *I* see some potential between Sal and Danny but Amber hasn’t been there for any of that so it’s irrelevant.

    As Bob Belcher would say – ‘they certainly are standing next to each other’.

    …Hey, the Belchers are cool? Can they adopt Sal? It’s better than her bottom of the bargain basement bin parents, even if Sal is an adult.

    • Marsh Maryrose
      Marsh Maryrose
      February 10, 2019 at 12:24 am | #

      Can’t imagine how these ugly rumors start.

    • Dana
      Dana
      February 10, 2019 at 12:51 am | #

      Standing next to someone a lot is how it happens.

  12. Roger
    Roger
    February 10, 2019 at 12:17 am | #

    man, media isn’t a good way to look at real people & relationships. Anyway I’m glad Sal and Danny keep having a strong platonic relationship.

  13. Cattleprod
    Cattleprod
    February 10, 2019 at 12:18 am | #

    Man, I wonder what the Arcee/Optimus shipping, ‘Arcee and Aileron are just friends’ people would make of DoA.

  14. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    February 10, 2019 at 12:18 am | #

    Sal’s downplaying, but I do like that she didn’t shit talk Danny to do so. That and the first few panels really make me feel good about their friendship. If they date, it’d be pretty awesome, and if they don’t, that’d be awesome, too.

    • Zee
      Zee
      February 10, 2019 at 9:19 am | #

      Willis said he’s not repeating any walkyverse ships so, that one’s staying at the dock

  15. Plasma Mongoose
    Plasma Mongoose
    February 10, 2019 at 12:20 am | #

    To be fair to Sal, a lot of media these days is hard to swallow.

  16. Tacos
    Tacos
    February 10, 2019 at 12:20 am | #

    Danny you dork. It’s just a bug.

    Also I would hope Danny and Amber don’t get back together. Dude seems much more happy now that he doesn’t have to worry about Amber’s mental state. He clearly was not equipped to deal with that. Especially as a young 18 year old who’s never had to interact with people with mental/psychological disorders. As for Danny and Sal, I could see them getting together but I think I prefer them being just friends for now. I wouldn’t be adverse to anything happening in the future though.

  17. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    February 10, 2019 at 12:25 am | #

    Eh, let Danny date some guy first – maybe Ethan, definitely not Mike – and then maybe take him back.

    Bonus, it’s more inspiration for Amber’s fanfic.

    • Tacos
      Tacos
      February 10, 2019 at 12:36 am | #

      Ethan’s a no-go. They both acknowledged that while they are attracted to each other, it’d be a horrible thing to do to Amber. Also isn’t Ethan with somebody right now? I forget who.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        February 10, 2019 at 1:18 am | #

        Amber might be okay with it now. It’s not a subject either has broached with her.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          February 10, 2019 at 11:21 am | #

          Amber always would have been “all right” with it, it’s just that the alright would have been based on Amber being garbage and confirming that they’d be better off without her.
          Of course they haven’t asked her about it. That would basically do all the damage right away and put her in an impossible situation.

      • JessWitt
        JessWitt
        February 10, 2019 at 4:01 am | #

        Doh, right he’s with Thad. Could be a fling, could be for a while.

        And yeahhh, Amber’s two exes with each other – not great.

      • Luna
        Luna
        February 10, 2019 at 9:48 am | #

        I feel like Amber lost any right to judge them if they got together when she made out with her friend’s ex the day after they broke up. If her dating Walky is okay, then Danny and Ethan dating each other should be too.

  18. Sporky
    Sporky
    February 10, 2019 at 12:28 am | #

    “Also, I have recurring dreams about a world where you and him go out and also our RA died in a car accident. Is that weird?”

  19. fire_daws
    fire_daws
    February 10, 2019 at 12:29 am | #

    Soooo….is the Amber/Walky storyline kicked into the long grass? The whole thing seems kinda jarring.

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      February 10, 2019 at 12:31 am | #

      The ship seems to have taken a torpedo scant days after it left port.

    • Rosicrucian
      Rosicrucian
      February 10, 2019 at 12:45 am | #

      College relationships sometimes burn out fast.

      Faster even than high school relationships.

      I think it’s because in high school your time is structured both by school and your parents. You have limited time to be with your crush.

      In college you can stay up all night and really get sick of each other.

      • fire_daws
        fire_daws
        February 10, 2019 at 1:52 am | #

        It’s not the relationship it’s the storytelling. I mean this could have been slowly building up since Walky and Amazigirl met on the roof three years ago now just when it happens it seems to have been suddenly dropped and switched to Walky/Lucy and Sal suggesting that Amber gets back with Danny when she clearly knows what’s gone on beforehand.

        It feels like an entire potentially three year storyline has been made redundant and it’s been pasted over by another one. But I might be jumping the gun and Willis might have something else in the works.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          February 10, 2019 at 11:37 am | #

          Or it’s just being turned into a love rectangle?

          It’s not clearly being dropped, just complicated. Walky still seems oblivious to Lucy’s interest. Sal doesn’t know about Walky and Amber, so suggesting she get back together with Danny isn’t odd.

          • Deathjavu
            Deathjavu
            February 10, 2019 at 1:18 pm | #

            But she does know, she asked about Amber and Walky earlier. All she heard is that they “might” be over specifically because of her?

            It’s weird that Sal is ok with Amber getting back together with Danny (after fighting about Sal), but doesn’t make the same suggestion about Walky (after breaking up over Sal).

            • thejeff
              thejeff
              February 10, 2019 at 3:42 pm | #

              Right, of course she does. From the roof.

              I was thinking about Walky’s quest to talk to her about it and forgot exactly what he needed to talk to her about.

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      February 10, 2019 at 1:50 am | #

      Depending on how right Ethan was about her attraction to Walky being part motivated by her trauma surrounding Sal, Amber might be less motivated about the whole thing – especially since she still assumes it’s over.

      We will absolutely have a confrontation between them, but Walky has a lot on his plate right now, and will have even more one Bille crashes after HER breakup.

  20. Buli-buli
    Buli-buli
    February 10, 2019 at 12:32 am | #

    Loved the AO3 line. Before they added the exclude option it was an aweful time filtering out the “kinkmeme” stories.

  21. abysswatcher1993
    abysswatcher1993
    February 10, 2019 at 12:34 am | #

    Yeah, I don’t see any romance or romatic triangle happening between these three characters. They have been through a lot, and just being friends seems like the mature thing to do. Sometimes it’s better to just be friends, than become a toxic mess of codependency and alcohol… Yeah, I went there… Dammit.

  22. Marsh Maryrose
    Marsh Maryrose
    February 10, 2019 at 12:45 am | #

    Patience you must have, young padewan.

    DYW has several narrative arcs in the air right now. The Amber/Walky one is currently the most fraught, and for that reason is bound to come to the foreground again sooner rather than later.

    • Marsh Maryrose
      Marsh Maryrose
      February 10, 2019 at 12:48 am | #

      This was in response to fire_daws comment about Amber/Walky…the commenting system has glitches sometimes, but it mostly works, so I’m not complaining.

  23. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    February 10, 2019 at 12:45 am | #

    Yeah we truly live in an age of hyper-romanticism.

  24. Jess
    Jess
    February 10, 2019 at 12:47 am | #

    Dumbing of Age Volume 9: You Don’t Consume Much Media, Do You

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      February 10, 2019 at 2:43 am | #

      DoA Book 9: Aagh, There’s A Bug On This Tree!

      • Deanatay
        Deanatay
        February 10, 2019 at 9:52 am | #

        DoA book title: I Like To Live Dangerously… AAgh, There’s A Bug On This Tree!!

  25. whatevsman
    whatevsman
    February 10, 2019 at 12:50 am | #

    Have two characters looked at each other for all of 10 seconds? Time to ship that shit like it’s amazon

  26. Dr T
    Dr T
    February 10, 2019 at 12:57 am | #

    Honestly, after the toxic fixation Sal had on Danny in the Walkyverse, I honestly would like to see a healthy version of their relationship in this setting. Even better would be her slowly realizing she likes him that way and Danny being clueless about it, content to be everyone’s dorky friend and just discovering the new Danny

    • Zee
      Zee
      February 10, 2019 at 9:22 am | #

      Willis said he’s not bringing back any walkyverse relationships though

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        February 10, 2019 at 10:49 am | #

        If that were true, Ruth and Billie wouldn’t be dating. What he’s said is he’s not repeating any unless he feels he can do them better.

        • MatthewTheLucky
          MatthewTheLucky
          February 10, 2019 at 7:00 pm | #

          And this page alone contains more Sal/Danny chemistry than the other universe.

  27. Dean
    Dean
    February 10, 2019 at 1:10 am | #

    Amber has written like fifteen Danny/Sal coffee shop AUs

    • CJ
      CJ
      February 10, 2019 at 6:28 am | #

      What made coffee shop AUs a thing? They seem to crop up everywhere.

  28. Rowen Morland
    Rowen Morland
    February 10, 2019 at 1:17 am | #

    DannyXtreebug

  29. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    February 10, 2019 at 1:23 am | #

    I keep reading, and loving, this strip. I’m really glad that, despite last strip’s punchline, Sal’s taking a joke and being in good humor. It’s kinda nice to see that level of comfort between the two of them. Danny being a little bolder, Sal feeling more understood. Just, damn, that’s some nice friendship juice.

    • newllend(henryvolt)
      newllend(henryvolt)
      February 10, 2019 at 1:33 am | #

      Well Danny pointing out something ironic at Sal’s expense in a non condescending tone feels like a lighter Jab compared to what she gets from Walky, Carla, and Malaya.

      • DailyBrad
        DailyBrad
        February 10, 2019 at 1:35 am | #

        Oh, definitely. There’s not the baggage like there is with Walky, and it’s not mean-spirited.

  30. Bagge
    Bagge
    February 10, 2019 at 1:39 am | #

    That panel 3 smile <3

  31. svata
    svata
    February 10, 2019 at 1:39 am | #

    Danny, you goof

  32. Meta
    Meta
    February 10, 2019 at 1:43 am | #

    sal is cutee

    • Meta
      Meta
      February 10, 2019 at 1:46 am | #

      cutee smile

  33. Bagge
    Bagge
    February 10, 2019 at 1:45 am | #

    Oh. Danny, this is a SPIDER, colloquially this could be considered a “bug” but properly it’s an ARCHNID.

    http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-7/01-glower-vacuum/bug/

    • Bagge
      Bagge
      February 10, 2019 at 1:46 am | #

      (Now I want some doofus date Danny and ask Becky for advice on how to remove his hat)

  34. Agemegos
    Agemegos
    February 10, 2019 at 1:50 am | #

    Sal, I do not put a teacher-student relationship forward as a sound basis for romance, but you’re being disingenious. Danny did more than sit beside you. He taught you to math and saved your shapely arse from an imminent flunking.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      February 10, 2019 at 1:54 am | #

      And Amber would know this how?

      • Agemegos
        Agemegos
        February 10, 2019 at 5:22 am | #

        It was Sal, not Amber, who implied that Sal and Danny had done no more than sit next to each other.

        • Agemegos
          Agemegos
          February 10, 2019 at 5:24 am | #

          Sixth frame, upper speech bubble.

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          February 10, 2019 at 10:46 am | #

          Yeah, because she’s talking about interactions she’s had with Danny that Amber’s been privy to and could draw conclusions like ‘they’re dating’ from.

          • Agemegos
            Agemegos
            February 10, 2019 at 6:28 pm | #

            That is precisely what I called it: disingenuous.

            • BBCC
              BBCC
              February 10, 2019 at 8:15 pm | #

              Sal saying Amber hasn’t seen them do anything but sit next to each other and therefore has no basis to assume they’re dating is disingenuous?

              • BBCC
                BBCC
                February 10, 2019 at 8:52 pm | #

                I just checked the archive and the only times Amber’s seen them together (as Amber, not AG)

                – When she realized Sal was the girl from the robbery
                – Just before AG dumped him
                – When Sal and Amber were playing Mario Kart
                – Sal singing while Danny played ukulele
                – When Sal asked Danny to get on her bike and then after Amber and Sal fought, yesterday in comic time.

                If Sal doesn’t know Amber was present while she was singing (which is probable, Amber was watching them from a distant roof top ledge) then indeed, Amber’s only seen them standing next to each other and exchanging small talk and one incident where Sal told Danny to get on her bike. That’s….really not a good basis to assume they’re dating.

                • Agemegos
                  Agemegos
                  February 11, 2019 at 8:22 am | #

                  It’s not Ambers knowledge that makes Sal’s statement disingenuous. It’s Sal’s knowledge. Sal knowingly and willingly encouraging Amber to go on assuming something the Sal knows is relevantly untrue is disingenuous of Sal.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 10, 2019 at 1:59 am | #

      I think she’s just being flippant, we’ve seen them have heart to hearts, etc, and she knows this, but it’s Sal, she’s not likely going to volunteer that kind of information.
      On the topic of teacher-student, fair cop, though I do want to point out that he’s an informal tutor with no authority over Sal, so it’s not like with Jason.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        February 10, 2019 at 2:04 am | #

        Also, Sal’s talking about the stuff she knows Amber’s seen.

        • Agemegos
          Agemegos
          February 10, 2019 at 5:23 am | #

          It was Sal, not Amber, who implied that Sal and Danny had done no more than sit next to each other a couple of times.

          • Emily
            Emily
            February 10, 2019 at 5:34 am | #

            Yes, because she was referring to the interactions she’s had with Danny that Amber could feasibly have witnessed and thus based her assumption that they had some kind of thing going on.

            • Agemegos
              Agemegos
              February 10, 2019 at 6:29 pm | #

              That is disingenuous.

  35. Bagge
    Bagge
    February 10, 2019 at 1:52 am | #

    IT’S EXACTLY BECAUSE SHIT LIKE THIS SAL DOESN’T GET CLOSE TO PEOPLE!

  36. Doopyboop
    Doopyboop
    February 10, 2019 at 1:56 am | #

    Alright. Between how cute this strip is and the joke in the comments yesterday about how I’m Danny in disguise (and because although I love Dina I am in short supply of recent cute Dina pics) I have changed my avatar! …Boy I hope I did it right.

    • Doopyboop
      Doopyboop
      February 10, 2019 at 2:27 am | #

      As if to prove my Danny-ness even more, I did in fact ‘danny up’ my attempt to change my gravatar! But now it has been properly changed~

  37. Delicious Taffy
    Delicious Taffy
    February 10, 2019 at 1:58 am | #

    I’m sure there’s at least one math person here who can answer this: Is there a possible way for someone to burn down their place of work, without destroying the building, endangering others, losing their job, and probably going to prison? I’m writing a comic, see, and one of the characters is a huge bullshitter, but I can’t figure out a way for it to plausibly happen.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 10, 2019 at 2:02 am | #

      I mean, where do they work? That’d have to be a factor, but if you destroyed your place of work, even if you’re not legally liable and no one gets hurt, you’d pretty much have to lose your job, wouldn’t you? You’d have nowhere to work.

      Or is it a franchise, and they can move you to another location?

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      February 10, 2019 at 2:03 am | #

      Doing so late at night when nobody was present inside the building and never being caught? The fire could’ve damaged the rooms without getting to the point of collapse if the fire department got there in time.

    • KaitouKidisBae
      KaitouKidisBae
      February 10, 2019 at 2:05 am | #

      Maybe play with the definition of “place”? Like their place of work could possibly be just their desk/chair/cubicle? Also, they do this with no one else around/in the building/late at night and use some sort of method to keep the fire small (be nearby with a fire extinguisher maybe). And if it’s hard to fire this person for some reason (example: an older relative with a very high position in the company), this person could be given a lot of crap work and made to pay back the company for monetary damages (buy a new desk/chair/etc) as punishment rather than fired? In this way, they have technically burned down their place of work without ticking any of your boxes

    • Agemegos
      Agemegos
      February 10, 2019 at 5:26 am | #

      “Burn down” means destroy the building.

      • Clif
        Clif
        February 10, 2019 at 11:18 am | #

        My advise, depending on the type of comic, is don’t worry about it. Rule of funny (and sometimes needs of the story) trump everything else. Fortunately they had a backup office all ready to go. There was all breakin at the same time and the burgers got blamed for the fire. Everyone knows they did it but everyone ignores it for there own reasons, such as the business needed the insurance. If you look at it right, you don’t have a problem, you have an opportunity to deepen your story.

    • BigDogLittleCat
      BigDogLittleCat
      February 10, 2019 at 7:03 pm | #

      Is the bullshitter telling the story about staring the fire and causing all this to happen?
      If so, it can all be bullshit.

      One way to get that result would be to have the work be inside an old converted brick/concrete factory building.
      A fire could completely gut the building, destroying the work place while leaving the shell.
      It would be easy enough to do that w/o endangering anyone (after hours) or going to jail (accident), but doing it w/o losing your job, that’s a lot tougher. Unless you did it so no one could figure out you’re responsible.

  38. PB
    PB
    February 10, 2019 at 2:05 am | #

    DAMMIT Danny is adorable and I actually DO kind of hope he and Amber get back together.

  39. Ainara
    Ainara
    February 10, 2019 at 2:08 am | #

    “Take him back”, sheesh.

    Also not even just in media, that happens in general. Some months ago me, my dad and a son of my dad’s friend went to a watch-the-night-sky thing organized by people who are into astrophotography. I am into astronomy and the son was into photography, so I could bring my telescope and him his camera.

    At one point during the night, the guy running the thing tried to tell us to come over by saying “you and your boyfriend!”. We must’ve been visibly baffled ’cause after a silence he said “…. brother…?”. We weren’t close and had done nothing couple-like that night other than like, being a guy and girl the same age and existing around each other lol

    • Doopyboop
      Doopyboop
      February 10, 2019 at 2:14 am | #

      There was a certain point when I was a teen where my best friend’s family as well as mine both assumed that we’d eventually hook up because ‘guy and girl who are friends’. Of course, I’m bi/ace (with a leaning towards women) and my best friend is gay so it was something we could both laugh about afterward when my aunt or his father would talk about us ‘eventually’ hooking up.

      • Sol Karas
        Sol Karas
        February 10, 2019 at 2:58 am | #

        Sounds like my cousin and a guy friend she used to have. She’s aro/ace and he was gay, but everyone was just like, “oh those crazy kids just don’t realise they’re in love yet :’)” lol

        • HeySo
          HeySo
          February 10, 2019 at 7:31 am | #

          / indicates or, + indicates combination.
          Being confused as to whether someone is aro or ace seems a bit, uh..
          Well, probably something you should get clarified if you care about them at all.

          • Jess
            Jess
            February 10, 2019 at 10:44 am | #

            It…doesn’t really? In every circle I’ve been in, anyhow, the / indicates both. Maybe we’re just in different circles though.

            • Clif
              Clif
              February 10, 2019 at 11:25 am | #

              Confusingly, / is used for either-or, and-or, and sometimes to indicate a pairing or combination, as in Kirk/Spock.

              • HeySo
                HeySo
                February 10, 2019 at 12:03 pm | #

                That’s true, I wasn’t associating alternating-combination (as per the last example you gave) with it, since “or” is the default operation for the symbol.

                Then again, my overlooking slashfics within this community clearly means that I’m the one in the wrong. 😛

                That said, aro/ace still feels completely wrong to me (perhaps because I’m just more used to using formal grammar operators [with my background in fields such as creative writing, editing, and coding] rather than more lax and more confusing variations).

                Well, at the very least, we can acknowledge that + would be a much more intuitive option. 😛

                For purposes of reference, I’m ace but not aro, and I’ve always only ever seen ace/aro used to reference both groups as a whole (ie, ace OR aro) as a contrast to orientations which are sexual and/or romantic in nature.
                In that sense, the / DOES mean both, but that’s because it’s as a combined grouping, not because the individuals are considered to have both traits. Ie, “and-or” rather than “either-or” or alternating-combination.
                Since that’s the understanding that’s more consistent with grammatical standards, I wonder if the phrasing eventually led to a confusion of intention that led to it becoming a combined reference.

                • HeySo
                  HeySo
                  February 10, 2019 at 12:05 pm | #

                  “used to reference both groups as a whole (ie, ace OR aro)”

                  *ace AND/OR aro, I meant.

                • Doopyboop
                  Doopyboop
                  February 10, 2019 at 5:57 pm | #

                  Hey, so I think it’s possible that Sol might have been going off of how I worded my orientation (bi/ace) when they typed aro/ace? And no offense HeySo, you seem like a good person, but it’s also rude and presumptuous to immediately assume Sol doesn’t care enough about their cousin based off of what you think is proper useage of ‘/’. Especially since I made the same mistake but did not get accused or a finger waggle for it. If we both made the same ‘mistake’, it’s fair to raise an eyebrow at both, not just one.

                  Keep in mind that different circles use different terms. For me, I’ve always found bi/ace to work for me. It’s a nice shorthand so that I don’t have to type out ‘biromantic asexual’. I have also seen prompt questions about orientation worded romantic orientation/sexual orientation. Ergo, bi/ace, aro/ace, etc.

    • Eldritch Gentleman
      Eldritch Gentleman
      February 10, 2019 at 4:27 am | #

      Honestly though Sal might have a point. As far as I remember Amber dumped Danny because of the whole split personality mess while Danny wanted to help and partially because he was hanging out with Sal.

      Now that Amber started kinda-sorta dealing with her problems and aggression there is actually nothing stopping her from taking Danny back since it wasn’t his fault that they got separated.

      I’m just not sure if Danny would even want that anymore. He is probably just a bit bitter that girls he dates just throw him around and are being hypocritical as heck.

      • Emily
        Emily
        February 10, 2019 at 5:38 am | #

        “Take back” sorta implies the dumping was remotely justified and not basically just a paranoid freakout where she viciously demeaned Danny for no reason.

        • Eldritch Gentleman
          Eldritch Gentleman
          February 10, 2019 at 5:52 am | #

          Well it’s up to the two of them to figure out whether they want to go back to each other or not.

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            February 10, 2019 at 11:50 am | #

            Does Amazi-Girl get a say in this? She was the one dating Danny, after all.

            • Eldritch Gentleman
              Eldritch Gentleman
              February 10, 2019 at 4:24 pm | #

              Do they even have any means of contacting her?

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                February 10, 2019 at 5:30 pm | #

                Amber could pin a note to the costume. 🙂

                But mostly, I was speaking conceptually, since we’re here talking about Danny getting back together with Amber – who he wasn’t formally dating. We’re debating the rights and wrongs and social etiquette of it all, while ignoring one of the primary people involved.

                • Eldritch Gentleman
                  Eldritch Gentleman
                  February 10, 2019 at 5:38 pm | #

                  That’s debatable I think. I mean can we actually define Amazi-girl as her own person? Wouldn’t she become just part of Amber once Amber would go to therapy? I mean, if Amber starts getting better and will make sense of her life and psyche then Amazi-Girl will kind of lose her reason for existing.

                • BBCC
                  BBCC
                  February 10, 2019 at 6:08 pm | #

                  That is not necessarily how integration works and you have to put work into integrating. You can’t rely on the idea one alter will just disappear.

                  From what I understand, there’s two main methods, which I will explain using cartoon analogies – feel free to correct me if I’m wrong if you have more experience.

                  The ‘Fusion’ model – This is probably the one you’re thinking of. This entails the alters integrating into one, with some sum of skills and memories of everyone. This one tends to attract pushback from the alters, who sometimes take this as trying to kill them. Also, stress can cause the new sum personality to dis-integrate back into alters, possibly with some new ones, much like a Steven Universe fusion (aside from the new alters), which has multiple gems forming one entity, but stress can split them apart.

                  The committee model – This one is more about the alters talking, sharing memories and more or less working together towards a common goal. This one is becoming more popular as it tends to draw less pushback from alters. Think ‘Inside Out’ where the emotions in someone’s head are a sort of ‘committee’ working together (again, more or less), even if they have different motivations, ideas and thoughts on how best to achieve said goal.

                • Eldritch Gentleman
                  Eldritch Gentleman
                  February 10, 2019 at 6:34 pm | #

                  @BBCC
                  Honestly I knew very little about split personality treatment. I mostly heard about the Integration part in passing regarding some… I think girl who had a LOT of those personalities.

                  So the committee model is actually close to what Amber used to have with Amazi Girl but now they have grown apart (since Amber apparently no longer remembers what she was doing as Amazi Girl)?

                • BBCC
                  BBCC
                  February 10, 2019 at 6:42 pm | #

                  Yeah, it looks like AG and Amber have gone from semi integrated to what’s closer to a full split (not sharing memories, not talking, not working together).

  40. Josh Spicer
    Josh Spicer
    February 10, 2019 at 2:17 am | #

    I, for one, would be okay with a Sal/Danny thing.

  41. Keulen
    Keulen
    February 10, 2019 at 2:42 am | #

    I’m guessing Sal doesn’t read much fanfiction.

  42. Nobody
    Nobody
    February 10, 2019 at 3:05 am | #

    Trying to say something to us Willis?

    • Danielle
      Danielle
      February 10, 2019 at 3:41 am | #

      danny’s default is weenie

      • Eldritch Gentleman
        Eldritch Gentleman
        February 10, 2019 at 4:32 pm | #

        It’s actually Adorable, Lord Adorable.

  43. Danielle
    Danielle
    February 10, 2019 at 3:40 am | #

    panel 4 is too relatable

  44. Eldritch Gentleman
    Eldritch Gentleman
    February 10, 2019 at 4:22 am | #

    He is adorable. A puppy dog trying to growl at a dragon but only able to make cute noises.

  45. Ethics Gradient
    Ethics Gradient
    February 10, 2019 at 4:31 am | #

    Sal and Danny have made sweet, sweet music together!

    • JBento
      JBento
      February 10, 2019 at 8:53 am | #

      He has played her the song of his people.

  46. Lore Krajsman
    Lore Krajsman
    February 10, 2019 at 4:36 am | #

    seriously? fandom is more likely to pair a couple based on how they constantly fight one another and can’t stand one another.

    • Chronos
      Chronos
      February 10, 2019 at 4:49 am | #

      By that logic, there must have been a lot of Sal/AG fics out there for awhile, eh

      • CJ
        CJ
        February 10, 2019 at 6:24 am | #

        AO3 only has 10 doa-fics, none with that pairing.

        • Chronos
          Chronos
          February 10, 2019 at 7:10 am | #

          Can’t say I’ve heard of ao3 before.

          • Zee
            Zee
            February 10, 2019 at 9:28 am | #

            Archive of our own. Described as being better organized than national library archives by a librarian

        • Jess
          Jess
          February 10, 2019 at 10:50 am | #

          Only 10? That’s so weird.

          • Kensou
            Kensou
            February 10, 2019 at 3:51 pm | #

            And a little disappointing. Good fanfics are salve for the soul

  47. newllend(henryvolt)
    newllend(henryvolt)
    February 10, 2019 at 5:07 am | #

    It’s very interesting how in less than 24 hours their time we went from the two of them beating the piss out of each other to Amber pitching Sal the idea of hooking up with one of her most recent ex’s.

    • Emily
      Emily
      February 10, 2019 at 5:38 am | #

      Interesting is one word for it I guess. I’m leaning more towards “utter bullshit.”

      • Zaxares
        Zaxares
        February 10, 2019 at 7:27 am | #

        Amber does seem to have pretty deep-seated self-loathing issues, so she might be pushing Dan away as a result of thinking that “he’s too good for her”.

        • Emily
          Emily
          February 10, 2019 at 8:00 am | #

          Well he kinda is because she was awful to him and he deserves better treatment and until she gets her shit together she can’t really be relied on to provide it. But that wasn’t what I meant I was referring more to the entire direction this particular plot arc has taken because I’m still ultra-bitter about the whole “Sal forgives Amber with literally zero effort made on Amber’s part” thing that underpins it.

          • Roger
            Roger
            February 10, 2019 at 10:25 am | #

            Yknow I was already incensed at the beginning of this particular arc, as is documented, but now what’s really driving it home more somehow is the fact that they’re suddenly super cool with each other and bantering and bickering like they’ve been at it for weeks, as opposed to, say, just tolerating each other’s proximity for the sake of healing or whatever. That’s why their dialogues been so off to me, I can’t buy this friendship at all

            • SmokedToast
              SmokedToast
              February 10, 2019 at 2:01 pm | #

              I don’t know, they are freely taking shots at each other. I haven’t read it as they are super cool so much as they are freely being antagonistic with each other in a way they couldn’t with the panic attacks.

            • Emily
              Emily
              February 10, 2019 at 6:20 pm | #

              It feels incredibly forced and rushed. Maybe Willis has some secret endgame where this all ties together into something that doesn’t make my bones ache with disdain but until I see it I’m just not going to be able to take this arc seriously.

  48. BenRG
    BenRG
    February 10, 2019 at 7:23 am | #

    Sal, I think that Amber is basing it on you singing your heart out whilst Danny accompanies you on the ukulele. You really didn’t see her standing on the roof watching you two, did you? Trust me, an experienced shipper like Amber would definitely take that as a hint.

    • Emily
      Emily
      February 10, 2019 at 8:02 am | #

      Shippers are the last people you should trust to have any understanding of “real life” romantic chemistry.

  49. HeySo
    HeySo
    February 10, 2019 at 7:27 am | #

    It’s what every boy desires- to be fought over by a pair of roller-skating bears.

  50. Colineo
    Colineo
    February 10, 2019 at 8:57 am | #

    This may be my favorite pair of pages in the last few years.

  51. Zee
    Zee
    February 10, 2019 at 9:32 am | #

    Sal, calling out the shippers in the comments
    I’ll admit I’d be a little upset if they started dating. I just want a nice, coed friendship. This strip launched me back to my highschool rage over everyone, including people I didn’t know, told me I should date -or was dating- all my guy friends. So glad people stop doing that after highschool

    • Zee
      Zee
      February 10, 2019 at 9:32 am | #

      Forgot to add something
      I’m glad Willis said he’s not bringing back the walkyverse ships so I don’t have to worry about it

      • Deadjolras
        Deadjolras
        February 10, 2019 at 11:35 am | #

        And yet Billie and Ruth still happened. I think he’s said something along the lines of not repeating ships unless he could spin a new dynamic for them, but I don’t have a source for that.

    • Nep
      Nep
      February 10, 2019 at 10:42 am | #

      As someone who teased a friend like that in high school, you have my most formal apology. It was not funny, it should never have happened, and I was buying into a lot of toxic narratives.

      (Also, I agree with you that I value Danny and Sal’s friendship and am glad they won’t be dating.)

    • Charlotte
      Charlotte
      February 10, 2019 at 3:42 pm | #

      I also just want Sal and Danny to be friends. I think they’re really good for each other as friends. I don’t think they’d be good as a couple at all.

  52. C.T Phipps
    C.T Phipps
    February 10, 2019 at 9:38 am | #

    Jason and Walky WILL get together.

  53. Deanatay
    Deanatay
    February 10, 2019 at 9:53 am | #

    Sal, you SMILE at Danny. For you, that’s practically throwing yourself into his arms.

  54. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    February 10, 2019 at 10:29 am | #

    Wonder if there actually was a bug on this tree~

    • JBento
      JBento
      February 10, 2019 at 11:51 am | #

      Danny’s so horrified by it because it was an informatic bug. That tree is bad code.

      • DarkoNeko
        DarkoNeko
        February 10, 2019 at 11:55 pm | #

        must have been a search tree

  55. ensiform
    ensiform
    February 10, 2019 at 11:54 am | #

    Solution: Danny gets them both at once.

    Ohhhhh yeah.

  56. SolomonK
    SolomonK
    February 10, 2019 at 1:06 pm | #

    I ship the tree bug and that cricket. If I didn’t, Joyce would.

  57. mrnoidea
    mrnoidea
    February 10, 2019 at 1:48 pm | #

    re last two panels: hey look, more meta

  58. Ryan
    Ryan
    February 10, 2019 at 2:29 pm | #

    AMBER / SAL OTP!
    😀

  59. Alanari
    Alanari
    February 10, 2019 at 4:09 pm | #

    Seems like sal doesn’t expect the amber+walky thing to last very long.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      February 10, 2019 at 5:01 pm | #

      Amber told her they might be over.

  60. Whaatt
    Whaatt
    February 10, 2019 at 7:15 pm | #

    Awww, sal+Danny! Finally happening. You think they’d be the first couple that’ll actually last?

  61. ego
    ego
    February 10, 2019 at 9:02 pm | #

    so, amber and walky are going to run into each other, each sporting a new-slash-old romantic interest, the *same day* it came up that maybe they were not going to be a thing?

    man the time scale in this comic has never seemed more true-to-life.

  62. Jason Hans Moehrle
    Jason Hans Moehrle
    February 10, 2019 at 10:03 pm | #

    “You don’t consume much media, do you?”

    I love this too much! @!

  63. stoodmuffin
    stoodmuffin
    February 11, 2019 at 12:20 am | #

    Well. After years, a hint that THIS could be a possibility. Hmm.

    • stoodmuffin
      stoodmuffin
      February 11, 2019 at 12:37 am | #

      I mean, if Sal was bi I would’ve shipped you two. Even though that’d end. Terribly.

  64. Roborat
    Roborat
    February 11, 2019 at 3:27 pm | #

    Poor Danny, he gets major Sal points in panel three, then goes into the negative in panel 4.

    Also, while he may be poking two bears, he has actually only poked one.

  65. Hari
    Hari
    February 11, 2019 at 11:29 pm | #

    Oh Danny. You always find yourself in the most awkward situations, don’t you?

  66. Micki
    Micki
    February 18, 2019 at 6:23 pm | #

    HAHA love the complete takedown of Danny x Sal.

    NOW I’m just waiting for Danny x Ethan…*twiddles thumbs*

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Dracula Enthusiast @kmfao.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
If your art style doesn't look completely different from page 1 to 100 is it truly a webcomic
feathernotes.bsky.social's user avatarKrispy @feathernotes.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
There's a lot of folks who are afraid to start their webcomics because they don't want it to look 'ugly' or don't know if they're ready yet" but... You just need to draw it and have something ugly and potentially 'not ready' That's the secret to starting a webcomic!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Wheeeeeee bikes
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Kurt Busiek @kurtbusiek.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Comics are good.
THIMBLE THEATER daily
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Bill Mudron @mudron.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
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Kendra, regular version @kendrawcandraw.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
Here’s another little excerpt from the interview for the night crowd, Hollywood call me www.comicsbeat.com/pride-interv...
Excerpt from comics beat interview where I say “ Other than that, I have big dreams about adapting something into animation and doing more writing-only projects. I love making comics with all my heart but man alive they’re a lot of work. Unfortunately, I will continue to do them until I die.”
kendrawcandraw.bsky.social's user avatarKendra, regular version @kendrawcandraw.bsky.social ⋅ 4d
I got to chat with @ebhutchins.bsky.social about Real Hero Shit: Harder Than It Looks, fantasy capitalism, and writing queer characters who are "obnoxious, slutty, and rude" (my words) over on Comics Beat! 🗡️😈🔥☀️ www.comicsbeat.com/pride-interv...
The header of the Comics Beat interview article, with the text: 
Pride Interview 2025:
Kendra Wells talks their shit, REAL HERO SHIT 2 and future projects
By E.B. Hutchins
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Ken Plume @kenplume.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
“Yes, but what if we made orange juice the cereal??? WE COULD OWN THE ENTIRE DAMN BREAKFAST MARKET!!!”
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
I basically don't drink anymore and I also haven't eassume yet today, so I assume this 10.4% ABV stout will put me on my ass.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
www.ebay.com/itm/23615950... buy my Studio Series 18 Bee Movie Bumblebee!
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
I was mistaken! I didn't Sharpie anything on the older Bumblebee. He actually came like that.
damnyouwillis.bsky.social's user avatarDavid M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 11d
Guess if they were gonna start remaking anybody in Studio Series it'd start with this guy. (Earlier version lightly Sharpied)
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
They made it! Sorta.
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 2d
Dumbing of Age: "Autocorrect" www.dumbingofage.com/2025/comic/b... #webcomics #webcomic
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Autocorrect
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
ben mendelsohn has joker hair?????
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