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Upstairs

by David M Willis on July 28, 2020 at 12:01 am
  • 04 - Is a Song Forever?
└ Tags: amber, faz

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    July 28, 2020 at 12:02 am | #

    surprised he can even talk without his ribs

    dang, why do I gotta feel bad for Faz =C

    • Bunny
      Bunny
      July 28, 2020 at 12:07 am | #

      Because Faz is a refugee. He’s every bit the abused child Amber is, only his mother is Blaines partner and team mate.

      • He Who Abides
        He Who Abides
        July 28, 2020 at 12:23 am | #

        I’m willing to bet that he’s more abused than Amber (I get a feeling that Blaine didn’t pull his literal punches with Faz).

        Christ, what a miserable competition that would be.

      • adam Black
        adam Black
        July 28, 2020 at 11:16 pm | #

        hes not a “refugee” he is a criminal accomplice.

        There is ZERO in text evidence of him being abused

        • BIG DECK GETTIN WRECKED
          BIG DECK GETTIN WRECKED
          July 29, 2020 at 2:34 am | #

          He’s also a child

        • James
          James
          July 29, 2020 at 1:13 pm | #

          Blaine is an abuser who needs to control and belittle the people under his power. That is absolutely text, and it is in no way reaching or inventing to infer that he does so with his current family as much as he did with Amber and her mother.

          But ok, if we need to be spoonfed all evidence for something to count, there’s also zero text in evidence that Faz is lying here or in the past about regretting his involvement in this.

        • Svata
          Svata
          July 29, 2020 at 1:20 pm | #

          Only the evidence of blaine being a known abuser, and it being wildly not-blaine to not abuse faz.

        • Random832
          Random832
          July 29, 2020 at 4:08 pm | #

          you may consider it weak evidence, but the fact that he’s Blaine’s son is, by itself, evidence that he is abused. So is the tone with which he mentioned that he was “very disappointed in” him here [and here’s the strip this refers to, where he says Amber is nicer to him than Blaine – not explicit, but doesn’t exactly paint a picture of him being treated well at home]

  2. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    July 28, 2020 at 12:03 am | #

    To be fair, everyone’s worse than delicious tasty ribs.

    • tim gueguen
      tim gueguen
      July 28, 2020 at 12:12 am | #

      You’d get food poisoning from Blaine’s ribs. Or hit in the head with a hammer. Or both.

  3. Nono
    Nono
    July 28, 2020 at 12:03 am | #

    …Where’s Stacy in all this? I wouldn’t fault her for not wanting to be there with her cesspool of an ex-husband, but… her daughter is here.

    • He Who Abides
      He Who Abides
      July 28, 2020 at 12:24 am | #

      Stacy’s . . . not as attentive to her daughter as she should be, sometimes.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        July 28, 2020 at 12:45 am | #

        She also lives far away and may not have made it to town yet.

        • clif
          clif
          July 28, 2020 at 1:07 am | #

          Also she’s busy at the moment. You wouldn’t believe what she and Joedad get up to.

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            July 28, 2020 at 5:51 am | #

            +1 upvotes for “Joedad”.

        • Nono
          Nono
          July 28, 2020 at 2:28 am | #

          Does she actually live that far away? I know that she had to drive to get here, but we’ve had three sets of parents show up within a day.

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            July 28, 2020 at 8:07 am | #

            Dorothy’s, Joyce’s, Sal & Walky’s, Dina’s (in Patreon) and Mike’s – who had to fly back from a cruise.

            It is possible Stacy’s here, but we just haven’t seen her. I’d be shocked if Ethan’s weren’t here, but we haven’t seen them either.

            • SeanR
              SeanR
              July 28, 2020 at 9:36 am | #

              Amber grew up in the same town as Sal, Walky, Billie, Ethan and Mike, at least. While Mrs O’Malley? may have moved since her daughter graduated high school, my impression is that they all lived in a near by town.
              That said, she may have been constrained by job responsibilities and unable to drop everything and rush to her daughter’s college, or drop everything and stay in the college town for several nights: We know that the Browns took a hotel room, (although the Browns apparently aren’t from the same home town.)
              I suspect she’s making the commute after work, as she can, but can’t afford to stick around, and just be there, for as much of this time as the others.
              Or, she may show up in the next strip, having just visited the bathroom/gift shop/cafeteria.

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                July 28, 2020 at 10:29 am | #

                Amber, Ethan and Mike were from the same town. Sal, Walky and Billie were not.
                The convenience store incident was on a road trip for Amber and Ethan.

              • Needfuldoer
                Needfuldoer
                July 29, 2020 at 12:01 pm | #

                Known hometown groups:

                ?
                Amber, Ethan, Mike

                Evansville
                Billie, Sal, Walky

                La Porte
                Becky, Joyce

                Mishawaka
                Danny, Dorothy, Joe

      • DudeMyDadOwnsaDealership
        DudeMyDadOwnsaDealership
        July 28, 2020 at 7:24 pm | #

        I think we’ve seen enough about Stacy to know when both her and Amber and together, Amber assumes all the real parental responsibilities and Stacy probably just subtly criticizes Amber when her actions become irresponsible.

        Amber at least has accepted this. People like Stacy are about receiving support, and if whatever little they can give isn’t going to cut it simply because they “tried their best,” it’s better not to get them involved.

    • Lauralot
      Lauralot
      July 28, 2020 at 6:39 am | #

      If I recall she doesn’t have a ton of money to begin with, and Ryan’s parents are suing her. She may literally be unable to afford to come see Amber right now.

  4. BBCC
    BBCC
    July 28, 2020 at 12:03 am | #

    Fuckin’ Blaine, man. He deserves ribs in his lungs.

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      July 28, 2020 at 8:30 am | #

      Agreed.

      • SeanR
        SeanR
        July 28, 2020 at 9:37 am | #

        Here’s hoping, after listening to his griping, they “miss” one. Somewhere where it won’t be life threatening, even with a punch to the gut, but will be excruciating.

  5. Lexi
    Lexi
    July 28, 2020 at 12:04 am | #

    Dangit I was hoping we’d get to see Ruth suplex a granny.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      July 28, 2020 at 12:07 am | #

      It’s better in my head.

      Ruth is dressed as the Undertaker, and Billie is off to the side, holding an urn, and yelling “OH YES” in a high pitched voice.

      • NinjaNick
        NinjaNick
        July 28, 2020 at 12:08 am | #

        Suplex with femurs.

        • BigDogLittleCat
          BigDogLittleCat
          July 28, 2020 at 12:11 am | #

          Dibs on that for my band name.

      • Mr. Random
        Mr. Random
        July 28, 2020 at 12:45 am | #

        I smell fanart.

        • David
          David
          July 28, 2020 at 5:30 am | #

          Spurious “n”.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        July 28, 2020 at 5:54 am | #

        Ruth suplexes Carol off the top of the cage, and she plummets 16 ft through an announcer’s table.

        • fire_daws
          fire_daws
          July 28, 2020 at 7:33 am | #

          I’d prefer a chokeslam through the cage.

      • Roborat
        Roborat
        July 28, 2020 at 3:09 pm | #

        Don’t forget the weird lighting on Billie’s face.

    • Lumino
      Lumino
      July 28, 2020 at 2:34 am | #

      I’m willing to bet at some point we will have a scene of Carol being escorted out by Security, her and Hank spotting each other, and Hank turning away from her to go have lunch with Joyce and her friends.

      • JessWitt
        JessWitt
        July 28, 2020 at 7:44 am | #

        Whoa. It would be the best show of “it’s finally time we separated.”

    • Jhon
      Jhon
      July 28, 2020 at 3:32 pm | #

      Patreon? Maybe?

      • Jhon
        Jhon
        July 28, 2020 at 9:00 pm | #

        For the suplex-hungry, here’s the
        suplex she did on Blaine.

  6. NinjaNick
    NinjaNick
    July 28, 2020 at 12:04 am | #

    That’s got to sting. I mean for Faz, not Blaine.

    • clif
      clif
      July 28, 2020 at 1:10 am | #

      And yet I’m not sure that Blaine isn’t right. It’s Faz after all.

  7. abysswatcher1993
    abysswatcher1993
    July 28, 2020 at 12:04 am | #

    Faz expressing so much sadness without facial expressions is really painful.

    • jmsr7
      jmsr7
      July 28, 2020 at 12:08 am | #

      Victims of abuse learn to put up a deceptive front to conceal their pain.

      • abysswatcher1993
        abysswatcher1993
        July 28, 2020 at 12:11 am | #

        Like Becky.

        • Abbe_Faria
          Abbe_Faria
          July 28, 2020 at 12:16 am | #

          Best description found of that type of coping mechinsm was from Dark Knight Rises, when John Blake is telling Bruce how he knew who Bruce really was, because he practiced the same look in the mirror to put a mask over the sort of pain that doesn’t go away.

    • Bunny
      Bunny
      July 28, 2020 at 12:54 am | #

      That’s so painfully familiar. We would get punished for what our parents thought we were thinking based on facial expression. If eyes narrowed in anger it was called the hate look and your face was getting slapped. That sarcastic look, bongoy face were also perilous. If you cried they gave you something to cry fo: If you smiled you were laughing at them and you’d get punished. I was a stress grimacer as a child. Yeah. Slapped. We all developed a complete blank face when under pressure. It was the safest thing we could do.

      • BarerMender
        BarerMender
        July 28, 2020 at 1:00 am | #

        Man, that’s sad. I had abusive parents, but not that abusive.

      • Gulby
        Gulby
        July 28, 2020 at 4:47 am | #

        That hits (almost literally) too close to home.

      • ischemgeek
        ischemgeek
        July 28, 2020 at 5:36 am | #

        My parents were similar. If you expressed pain after they smacked you, they would insist it didn’t hurt and that you were just being manipulative.

      • Regalli
        Regalli
        July 28, 2020 at 9:32 am | #

        Internet sympathy gestures for all of you.

  8. Mra
    Mra
    July 28, 2020 at 12:05 am | #

    Blaine is in the same hospital as Mike. That is concerning. There is no way he’ll be able to turn the situation around by hurting Mike, but he might just be spiteful enough to try anyway.

    • Miri
      Miri
      July 28, 2020 at 12:50 am | #

      He is almost certainly handcuffed to a policeman with a second one in the room so when the first one needs the loo he is still handcuffed to a policeman. So long as neither policeman is corrupt and willing to be found in the room with a comatose patient on monitors when they crash when there is no need for them to be there… (And so long as both of them aren’t corrupt enough for Blaine to ask them to murder an unconscious teenager and almost definitely go to jail for it…) I doubt Blaine has enough clout for that.

      I am surprised to learn that they pull ribs out of lungs whilst people are conscious, with their family watching. Although it is Blaine so I’m not complaining about them not doing this under general anaesthetic or in an operating theatre… (I am also willing to accept that Faz was irritating Blaine when he was waiting to go to theatre, but prefer the first mental image.)

      • woobie
        woobie
        July 28, 2020 at 12:57 am | #

        He is likely restrained to the bed.

        And no, they will not perform procedures like that in front of family. Anaesthetic or sedation is generally used unless someone on the team knows what Blaine did.
        (no, they wouldn’t withhold really do that.)

    • bryy
      bryy
      July 28, 2020 at 1:12 am | #

      I think Blaine’s arc is done. It would be way too much. We just did the Blaine arc.

  9. William Leonard Reese Jr.
    William Leonard Reese Jr.
    July 28, 2020 at 12:05 am | #

    I must admit that Amber has . . a better mental fortitude to be able to talk to Faz so casually like this then I would in her situation. Especially considering it’s been . . not even a day I think since the whole kidnapping of their friends, kidnapping Joyce a second time, helping his father with both.

    At the very least a punch to the gut before talking with him like this. Or . . something I don’t know.

    Perhaps she is just too emotionally *exhausted* right now after everything. Which . . .tracks with what we’ve seen not too long ago with her talk with Ethan.

    • Foxhack
      Foxhack
      July 28, 2020 at 12:09 am | #

      She probably feels Faz doesn’t need yet -another- person hating him.

      He’s still a kid.

    • Amias
      Amias
      July 28, 2020 at 12:13 am | #

      I don’t remember if Joyce ever talked to Amber about Faz, but he’s pretty clearly being abused in a way that doesn’t give him a good way out. He either helps Blaine or gets hurt. To your point though, I think I’d be handling all this way worse than Amber if I was 18.

      • Miri
        Miri
        July 28, 2020 at 12:53 am | #

        “Get Faz out of here first. He’s just a kid.” “But… Yep.” They may not have talked about it properly, but Joyce expressed the bare bones of it when she was still in a van, having just discovered a rescue operation was on the cards, and Amber accepted the validity of it.

        • Regalli
          Regalli
          July 28, 2020 at 8:43 am | #

          Per Amber’s Garbage Roof Talk with Walky at the end of Faz Is Great, she tries not to think about the odds Faz is her biological half-brother in part because it helps her feel less awful about leaving him alone in Blaine’s care. (Which, oh, sweetie, no. Also worth noting Walky’s ‘it’s what I’d do’ given his and Sal’s situation has some parallels. Gotta wonder how consciously he realizes that one. https://www.dumbingofage.com/2018/comic/book-8/03-faz-is-great/choosing/) Seems likely then that she’s made the same assumption we have (assuming she doesn’t already know) that Faz is almost certainly being abused.

          Speaking of, it’s nice seeing her not object to ‘our father’ after all Blaine’s insistence on stepfather. Growth! And acknowledgement that, genetics or not, Blaine is the only father figure either of them have ever had, and doesn’t THAT just suck balls.

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            July 28, 2020 at 10:30 am | #

            I think she’s accepted it since that Garbage Roof talk.

            • Regalli
              Regalli
              July 28, 2020 at 11:05 am | #

              Oh, certainly. Still nice to see there’s been some potentially positive growth there. Hopefully it includes ‘recognizing that she is still effectively a kid herself and could not singlehandedly protect Faz from Blaine Being Blaine even if she had been exposing herself to more of that garbage, and the best she can do for him is try and find safe outlets to contact each other now,’ though I’m not getting my hopes THAT high.

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                July 28, 2020 at 3:10 pm | #

                Hopefully, but not likely. Self-blame is deeply rooted in Amber and will take more work to get out than we’ve seen yet.

          • He Who Abides
            He Who Abides
            July 28, 2020 at 12:47 pm | #

            My take is that she’s not acknowledging their shared connection via Blaine, but that, genetics or not, she accepts Faz as a brother. She’s just too burnt out to say it.

    • BigDogLittleCat
      BigDogLittleCat
      July 28, 2020 at 12:21 am | #

      I’d like to know when we are as well.
      Are we later in the same day that the sun rose on kidnap victims in the front yard, or is it the day after?
      I *think* it’s the same day, but not sure.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        July 28, 2020 at 12:28 am | #

        It’s the day after.
        That whole day was the kidnap sequence and a little bit of aftermath, mostly skimmed over. Ended with Sarah and Joyce going to bed.

      • Blob
        Blob
        July 28, 2020 at 12:34 am | #

        We appear to be the day after that. Timeline as I have it figured is they’re kidnapped overnight, get free early in the morning, probably mid/late morning getting back to dorms to go to sleep. Somewhere in there Sarah’s parents visit (Joyce: “was that the worst part of yesterday”) and presumably other parents arrive (Dorothy’s are “still” in town today). I’m assuming they had to talk to cops, figure out midterms, sleep.
        Dorothy might be driven enough to take a midterm with no sleep and 10 minutes after being in kidnapped; Ethan I think less so. Mike’s parents didn’t get in until today, but they were on a cruise.

        Seems like we’re about noonish the next day right now – the Keeners are taking people to lunch.

    • He Who Abides
      He Who Abides
      July 28, 2020 at 12:27 am | #

      Pretty sure it’s been a few days since last chapter. More than enough time for Joyce to talk to Amber and explain some things that she might’ve missed about her brother.

      • King Daniel
        King Daniel
        July 28, 2020 at 12:48 am | #

        We’ve been told already in-comic that this is the day after the last chapter. And even if we hadn’t, we’ve always previously been told immediately by one of those omniscient narration-box thingies whenever we’ve had a timeskip of a day or more.

  10. Nep
    Nep
    July 28, 2020 at 12:05 am | #

    I’m really loving this version of Faz. His edges are rounded, he’s showing more enorion, and he makes more sense since he’s an abused kid. I hope he and been stay in touch.

    • Devin
      Devin
      July 28, 2020 at 12:27 am | #

      For sure. This is a much more humanized version of Faz, and Willis’ characterization really shines here.

  11. Joe Moose
    Joe Moose
    July 28, 2020 at 12:06 am | #

    I’m missing something. Why is Blane saying he’s worse than the ribs? What was the guy expecting – bootlicking?

    • jmsr7
      jmsr7
      July 28, 2020 at 12:11 am | #

      Many abusers commit their abuse to feel better about themselves. Making Faz feel bad makes him feel good (and presumably, he does this to Faz’s mom too).

    • Sam
      Sam
      July 28, 2020 at 1:55 am | #

      Because Blaine is abusive. When abusers feel bad is a great time in their mind to take it out on their victims.

    • Wizard
      Wizard
      July 28, 2020 at 2:58 am | #

      The utter failure of Blaine’s brilliant plan couldn’t possibly have been Blaine’s fault. Faz is the only handy scapegoat.

  12. Olivia Cheatham
    Olivia Cheatham
    July 28, 2020 at 12:06 am | #

    No suplexing. DISAPPROVE.

  13. Dandi_Andi
    Dandi_Andi
    July 28, 2020 at 12:09 am | #

    After everything…

    Faz TRIED to help Blaine. Even after all the abuse, Faz tried to help him. And when Blaine’s horrible actions finally caught up to him, all he can do is blame Faz. And for what? What does Blaine think Faz did wrong?

    Nothing, of course. He just has to have someone else to blame.

    My heart aches so much for Faz right now.

    • abysswatcher1993
      abysswatcher1993
      July 28, 2020 at 12:13 am | #

      Faz and Amber are his children, and he is dissappointed that they didn’t become like him, and even if they became like him he would be pissed because he wants to feel like he is the king of his family. You can’t satisfy a man like that, so the best option is to burn bridges and also burn the place where Blaine is standing, or laying on the floor crying of pain.

    • woobie
      woobie
      July 28, 2020 at 12:59 am | #

      Well, you aren’t suggesting Blaine blame himself, are you?

  14. DT
    DT
    July 28, 2020 at 12:12 am | #

    Blaine deserves both the ribs AND Faz.
    And also a thousand kicks in the nards.

    And a few more for good measure.

    And another boot to the head for Jenny and the wimp.

    • Fiddler115
      Fiddler115
      July 28, 2020 at 12:25 am | #

      He said frantically.

      • Roborat
        Roborat
        July 28, 2020 at 3:11 pm | #

        I see what you did there.

    • SeanR
      SeanR
      July 28, 2020 at 9:49 am | #

      Blaine may well deserve Faz, as he’s cultivated Faz, but has Faz EVER deserved Blaine?

      • He Who Abides
        He Who Abides
        July 28, 2020 at 12:48 pm | #

        No, Faz hasn’t.

  15. Jade
    Jade
    July 28, 2020 at 12:12 am | #

    ….I do not like that I like Faz. Take it back! I don’t want it!

    • Miri
      Miri
      July 28, 2020 at 12:58 am | #

      I do not like green Faz and ham?

      • Wizard
        Wizard
        July 28, 2020 at 3:01 am | #

        Would you like him in a box? Would you like him with a fox?

        • SeanR
          SeanR
          July 28, 2020 at 9:52 am | #

          That reminds me of something I heard about Roman punishments. One of them was to throw the criminal into the river in a bag with three specific animals. What those were I don’t recall exactly, but I’m thinking a rat and a snake were in there.
          Problem is, what did the rat and snake do to deserve it?

          • Chronos
            Chronos
            July 28, 2020 at 1:51 pm | #

            If George Carlin is right, dog, a monkey, and a snake.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      July 28, 2020 at 9:46 am | #

      The Great Faz has created a chart to demonstrate the reasons why you should all like him.

      *sigh*

      As you can see, his heart is not really in it today.

  16. Mordecai
    Mordecai
    July 28, 2020 at 12:12 am | #

    Okay maybe I missed prior discussion but anyone wanna discuss the poll??

    IMO: Amazi-girl ≥ Sal > Amber > Sarah with a bat > Malayla > Dina
    =(?) Joyce

    • Mordecai
      Mordecai
      July 28, 2020 at 12:13 am | #

      Malaya*

    • BarerMender
      BarerMender
      July 28, 2020 at 2:07 am | #

      Amber is more dangerous than Amazi-girl. Dina can work up a good rage, but she’s worthless in a fight. Malaya is direct and aggressive, so also dangerous.

  17. Some1
    Some1
    July 28, 2020 at 12:16 am | #

    Well, I guess now I can stop assuming that everyone just forgot about Faz and left him on the side of the street.

    • King Daniel
      King Daniel
      July 28, 2020 at 12:25 am | #

      Aslan gave Faz his seat on the bus. (Even though it was the last one available, meaning Aslan had to get off again and wait for the next one.)

      • Regalli
        Regalli
        July 28, 2020 at 8:46 am | #

        Aslan knows that Faz can one day grow into Faz The Lionslayer, King Of The Zoo Enclosure as the Godsun Watches On. Aslan’s not testing his luck.

  18. Jay
    Jay
    July 28, 2020 at 12:17 am | #

    Every time I think Blaine can’t be a worse person, he seems to find a whole new dimension to be awful.

  19. Hornet
    Hornet
    July 28, 2020 at 12:18 am | #

    Nice(ish?) fam moment, but, isn’t Faz an accomplice to, y’know, crimes?

    • The Coolest Child
      The Coolest Child
      July 28, 2020 at 12:33 am | #

      He’s like 13

      • Kamino Neko
        Kamino Neko
        July 28, 2020 at 4:19 pm | #

        Probably 14 at this point…he stated in one of his early strips that he was 2 weeks away from being 14.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          July 28, 2020 at 10:17 pm | #

          That was 2 weeks away from being 16. Currently legal under Indiana’s Romeo and Juliet law, but would be of the normal age of consent in 2 weeks. Somewhat unclear in phrasing, but Willis clarified it somewhere.

    • He Who Abides
      He Who Abides
      July 28, 2020 at 12:33 am | #

      I have a hunch that Joyce might’ve told the cops some of her possible suspicions about why Faz helped. And that Faz explained both his reasoning and whatever horrid things Blaine was doing to him. I doubt they’d try (in this universe, I know it’s more likely IRL) to prosecute a 15-year-old abuse victim who’s scared of what his male legal guardian would do to him and his female genetic donor if it goes tits-up.

    • Tannen
      Tannen
      July 28, 2020 at 12:35 am | #

      In this case, one could probably argue that he was coerced into being an accomplice.

      • Ron again
        Ron again
        July 28, 2020 at 2:10 am | #

        Even if they’ll press charges, it’s not that uncommon you get to walk until your trial. I mean, he’s underage and likely got out of the murder charge.

  20. Nah
    Nah
    July 28, 2020 at 12:18 am | #

    On the one hand I like this sibling story, on the other hand really wanted to see that suplex.

  21. Nevermaker
    Nevermaker
    July 28, 2020 at 12:20 am | #

    Honestly, I’m not worried about Blaine right now: like Amber said, once he gets patched up, he goes to jail.

    I’m more worried about ehat’ll happen if Yuri comes down there right now.

    • BigDogLittleCat
      BigDogLittleCat
      July 28, 2020 at 12:23 am | #

      That she’ll blame Amber goes without saying.

    • BenRG
      BenRG
      July 28, 2020 at 1:42 am | #

      The answer to that depends on how much she feels that she needs to be there for Faz over the next few years and whether that is more important to her than getting revenge on her enemies.

    • Nah
      Nah
      July 28, 2020 at 2:37 am | #

      Maybe she’s smothering him so he can’t rat out the mob.

  22. Some1
    Some1
    July 28, 2020 at 12:33 am | #

    This arc is essentially two heel-face-turns for the price of one.

    • not someone else
      not someone else
      July 28, 2020 at 12:52 am | #

      Can we go for three? And if so, who? Robin? Mike? Sal and Walky’s Dad? The Dean? Smashcut to Joe comforting Joyce via text message?

      • clif
        clif
        July 28, 2020 at 1:27 am | #

        Or, worse yet, it could be a double-reverse-heel-turn and Faz is distracting Amber while Yuri ‘visits’ Mike.

        Not likely, but not impossible.

        • adam Black
          adam Black
          July 28, 2020 at 11:44 pm | #

          Faz hasnt turned. He’s just manipulated people with undeserved guilt to distract from his crimes

      • SeanR
        SeanR
        July 28, 2020 at 10:21 am | #

        I don’t think Mike counts. From my perspective, his entire issue was he was protecting his friends, and doing it in the only way he could think of.
        I also think he’s a sociopath, but sociopaths can function in society, and he was trying.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          July 28, 2020 at 10:34 am | #

          Mike thinks it counts. He realized in that fight, listening to Blaine’s rant, just how much like it his plans were and how much damage he’d done.

          Of course, we’ll see if he recovers and how his behavior changes afterwards.

          • Regalli
            Regalli
            July 28, 2020 at 10:51 am | #

            Yeah, Mike made that sacrifice play specifically because he heard Blaine’s justifications, realized he was using the same exact justifications and that there was merit to Danny’s ‘I have no idea why my friends keep giving you chances’, and did not like the person he was being.

            Mike has the ability to care about others. He just spent years consciously denying those feelings and that ability.

            • Regalli
              Regalli
              July 28, 2020 at 10:59 am | #

              Also, like. Sociopath is a DEEPLY loaded and no-longer-clinically-used-as-a-result term. The current DSM uses Antisocial Personality Disorder, and we’ll see how long that gets euphemism treadmilled into being a horribly loaded insult, but defines it as involving impulsivity, lack of restraint, and lack of regard for their own safety in addition to manipulation and lack of regard for others. Mike is not nearly impulsive enough for that. I can see someone making a case he’s low-empathy (and both ASPD and low-empathy folks can be perfectly decent human beings provided they try not to be a total asshole, same as everyone – low empathy’s even a benefit to doctors and surgeons so they aren’t too worried to do their job properlu,) but I personally disagree.

  23. Chaucer59
    Chaucer59
    July 28, 2020 at 12:35 am | #

    You have to admit, Blaine’s got a point. Would YOU want to experience having Faz pulled from your lungs?

    Now, about that suplex…

  24. synnerman
    synnerman
    July 28, 2020 at 12:49 am | #

    I know it may be a bit much… hug him Amber.

  25. Rikunda
    Rikunda
    July 28, 2020 at 1:04 am | #

    Wait… When do we get the suplex of Carol?!

    • clif
      clif
      July 28, 2020 at 1:20 am | #

      Right now, but off screen.

  26. Aprion
    Aprion
    July 28, 2020 at 1:04 am | #

    just fok off faz, just fok right the hell off.

  27. BenRG
    BenRG
    July 28, 2020 at 1:39 am | #

    Oh wonderful, that means that Yuri will be coming down there at some points to wave her victim card and try to convince everyone that Amber is somehow the bad guy in all this!

  28. Council
    Council
    July 28, 2020 at 1:40 am | #

    I…uh. I..Like, Faz?

    I like Faz. Huh. Okay. Carry on.

  29. Nenja
    Nenja
    July 28, 2020 at 2:00 am | #

    Aww, but I wanted to see Ruth vs Carol.

  30. Hazel
    Hazel
    July 28, 2020 at 2:28 am | #

    And finally at the end of a strip we see that he does have something non-punchable.

    Wait punchable.. punchable… oh. Huh.

    “Do you have anything non-punchable?” “No I do not.” (IIRC)

    Takes that years-old strip and puts it in its proper light.

    I assume his douche horny-boy mask (literally) is an act to cover up the sadness because maybe if you’re like that people don’t ask you hard questions about your life and how you feel.

    • Zatar
      Zatar
      July 28, 2020 at 3:36 am | #

      I mean admittedly he SAYS something highly punchable, but he’s quoting what Blaine said about him.

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      July 28, 2020 at 8:51 am | #

      I don’t remember if the parallel between Howard and Faz was made explicit in-strip, but the teenage brothers with Insufferable Horniness who are still in the care of the abusive parental figures who are therefore probably being abused themselves, with Ruth saying outright that Sir could ‘take (her refusal to stay in line) out on Howie’… All of that seems deliberate in its commonalities.

  31. Keulen
    Keulen
    July 28, 2020 at 2:28 am | #

    I am so disappointed that I don’t get to see Ruth suplex Carol today.

  32. foducool
    foducool
    July 28, 2020 at 3:25 am | #

    to be fair, everyone is allergic to Faz

    • SeanR
      SeanR
      July 28, 2020 at 10:24 am | #

      That’s his body spray. He just discovered the stuff and hasn’t quite figured out how much is too much.
      Also, he thinks it helps him pick up girls, and more spray means more girls.

  33. Bagge
    Bagge
    July 28, 2020 at 3:50 am | #

    Blaine can make everything worse.

  34. Eldritchy
    Eldritchy
    July 28, 2020 at 4:14 am | #

    Hey while they are pulling Blaine’s ribs out of his lungs could they give Franken Fran a call and ask if she could attach Faz’s head to the back of Blaine’s skull? That way they’ll Always be together.

    • Axel
      Axel
      July 28, 2020 at 5:32 pm | #

      that wouldn’t be very kind to Faz

      • Eldritchy
        Eldritchy
        July 29, 2020 at 4:10 am | #

        Maybe a copy of Faz?

      • Eldritchy
        Eldritchy
        July 29, 2020 at 8:26 am | #

        A non-sentient thingy that spouts Faz’s lines at random intervals.

  35. Ron again
    Ron again
    July 28, 2020 at 5:24 am | #

    Anyone else notice that although it’s sad to be called “worse than bones in your lungs” he was up there with Blaine until he was sent off? That means Faz is in support of Blaine, unlike e.g. Walky who went after Sal because he thought Sal was more right than his mom.

    • dralou
      dralou
      July 28, 2020 at 5:55 am | #

      I had the same reaction at first, but now I’m not sure he was there willingly to begin with. His mother probably brought him up. And then he went away as soon as he had an excuse to do so, when Blaine said he was a pain.

      It probably still hurt him to hear Blaine saying that though, given his body language in that last panel.

      • Holly
        Holly
        July 28, 2020 at 7:25 am | #

        He’s very young, and I don’t think he’s given up on wanting his father to love him and approve of him yet. It’s understandable that he thinks he has to be there and keep trying to please.

        • Regalli
          Regalli
          July 28, 2020 at 9:29 am | #

          Amber’s clearly his favorite (in that she’s nicest to him, which… ow,) but given he’s in Yuri’s custody and she’s Team If Amber Wasn’t Around/Costing Money, We’d Be Better Off (GOD do I hope she finally gets to see Blaine’s real finances after this,) he probably was expected not to openly side with her. And even we aren’t 100% in agreement if Blaine’s mob ties will work for or against him at trial. If there’s a real chance he survives and gets custody over Faz again, Faz does NOT want to be known to defy him.

          Walky’s still terrified after standing up to Linda, and he’s no longer in his parents’ custody full-time. I also think the odds of Linda physically abusing Walky (or Sal for that matter) up to this point are way lower than the ones Blaine has physically abused Faz, which means he can’t minimize how he’s been treated the same way. (It’s over in Shortpacked, but Amber’s line about how the first time Blaine assaulted her ‘forced Stacy to realize his verbal abuse wasn’t a funny quirk’ seems applicable here, with Walky as well as Faz. https://www.shortpacked.com/comic/great) So if he’s not safe to dissent and knows he’s not safe, I’m not holding it against him that he’s trying to stay safe first and foremost.

          Besides, even Sal – who isn’t on good terms with her parents and knows her treatment is out of line enough to be angry about it – still wanted their approval, given her ‘trying to make a good impression’ uniform from Family Weekend. Faz is younger and has had less time to be away and starting to process how fucked up his upbringing was. (And Walky’s only starting that journey himself.)

          • SeanR
            SeanR
            July 28, 2020 at 10:32 am | #

            Reading forward a few strips from the one you linked, we see SP Amber tell her father’s corpse to “burn in hell”, then two frames later, SP Mike says “later”, as in “see you later”.
            I find this amusing.

            • Regalli
              Regalli
              July 28, 2020 at 10:46 am | #

              SP Mike’s self-aware about such things. He remembers how he proposed to Amber. (At least they tried to fix how that one affected other people afterwards.)

              And that strip is one of my absolute favorites.

  36. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    July 28, 2020 at 5:49 am | #

    Goddammit, don’t make us sympathize with Faz…

  37. Pagemistress
    Pagemistress
    July 28, 2020 at 6:28 am | #

    I vote that Stacy take Faz in if his mom proves to be terrible enough to blame this on him and abandon him.
    Possibly because Amber asks her flat out if her possible half-brother can stay with her.

    • PB
      PB
      July 28, 2020 at 3:47 pm | #

      … I am surprisingly okay with this outcome.

  38. someone
    someone
    July 28, 2020 at 7:00 am | #

    Finally, one point on which Blaine is right. Ribs are so much better than Faz. Especially when they’re grilled just right.

  39. Zaxares
    Zaxares
    July 28, 2020 at 7:03 am | #

    “So you have failed me yet again, Faz…”

  40. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    July 28, 2020 at 7:45 am | #

    super mario shirt <3

  41. JessWitt
    JessWitt
    July 28, 2020 at 7:54 am | #

    Poor Faz. Even if he is a creep he doesn’t deserve Blaine’s abuse.

    Question is if he’ll try to be less lecherous. He’ll be more likely to be less abetting for sure.

    • He Who Abides
      He Who Abides
      July 28, 2020 at 1:18 pm | #

      My hunch is that his horn-dog persona is (partly) there to keep other people away. Blaine can’t hurt his friends if he doesn’t have any.

      • JessWitt
        JessWitt
        July 28, 2020 at 3:34 pm | #

        O.O

        Oh gods, that’s a possibility. And a very sad one too.

  42. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    July 28, 2020 at 8:00 am | #

    Siblings bonding moment????

    • He Who Abides
      He Who Abides
      July 28, 2020 at 1:13 pm | #

      Feels like it, yeah.

      • Rabisch
        Rabisch
        July 28, 2020 at 4:05 pm | #

        HOORAY!

  43. FacelessDeviant
    FacelessDeviant
    July 28, 2020 at 8:18 am | #

    Ouch, thats rough. Even though Faz is a bit of a pain, he does deserve better than that.

  44. Jason Rivest
    Jason Rivest
    July 28, 2020 at 8:30 am | #

    The creepiest thing about Faz is he never changes his facial expression. His eyes are always closed, and he always have a self-satisfied smile. Even now. “And the he goes to jail.” “He says I’m worse than the ribs.” Why don’t you show some genuine emotion, for a change?

    • thumb
      thumb
      July 28, 2020 at 8:59 am | #

      Because emotion is weakness. So you keep a little half smile at all times to show that nothing phases you.

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      July 28, 2020 at 9:00 am | #

      Why would someone living with Blaine (and Yuri, who we know very little about but is clearly unsupportive) avoid showing any facial expression, especially his true feelings on the matter?

      There’s a reason people are speculating his hairstyle is at least in part a way to cover up an eye and not raise any questions. So, so many of his mannerisms make sense as a front to cover any genuineness to try and prevent further abuse or unwelcome questions about his home life (which would likely also lead to abuse.)

    • Alan in DC
      Alan in DC
      July 28, 2020 at 9:23 am | #

      I’m okay with his look. He’s almost reminiscent of Dr Carl Sagan.
      Park him down the road at the campus observatory and watch the surprised looks.

    • Sam
      Sam
      July 28, 2020 at 9:58 am | #

      That’s kind of an insensitive way to talk about an abuse victim. Some end up developing a single expression they consistently use because it results in the least amount of punishment or helps them pretend nothing is wrong to other people. It’s one of his survival mechanisms that he hasn’t had a chance to safely unlearn.

      • SeanR
        SeanR
        July 28, 2020 at 10:35 am | #

        Comments like yours and others on this thread force me to speculate how many abuse victims go on to be really good a poker.

        • Opus the Poet
          Opus the Poet
          July 28, 2020 at 10:11 pm | #

          I can’t produce percentages, but I would say from my experience it’s “many”.

    • adam Black
      adam Black
      July 28, 2020 at 11:39 pm | #

      because he has narcissistic personality disorder.

      He isnt one bit better when he never met Blaine

  45. aelfwine
    aelfwine
    July 28, 2020 at 9:22 am | #

    I’d expect Faz to also be under arrest?

    • aelfwine
      aelfwine
      July 28, 2020 at 9:23 am | #

      I suppose it’s possible nobody bothered to mention him to the police?

    • Sam
      Sam
      July 28, 2020 at 9:53 am | #

      He’s like, 15 and was forced to act under threat of further abuse, pretty sure he is a victim here and that Joyce would have painted his actions in a very sympathetic light. And like, Blaine literally murdered someone, so the fear on Faz’s part was extremely valid.

      • aelfwine
        aelfwine
        July 28, 2020 at 10:30 am | #

        That sort of thing would explain why he’d be acquitted or given a lenient sentence, not why he’s free.

        • Regalli
          Regalli
          July 28, 2020 at 11:14 am | #

          He wasn’t on the scene (so they could have conceivably Not Brought Him In Particular Up, since we already know there was some… editing of stories,) Indiana has to set bail for anyone who’s not accused of murder, and given Yuri may or may not have her own mob ties and that one of the arresting officers was DEFINITELY corrupt, I can see there being several ways he avoids the felony murder charge to begin with. Maybe accomplice down the line (in which case, again, the recognition a fifteen-year-old abuse victim in the abuser’s custody cannot meaningfully say no is probably going to work wonders,) but that would allow bail.

          • He Who Abides
            He Who Abides
            July 28, 2020 at 1:17 pm | #

            Plus, I suspect Blaine brought him along to keep him from warning Amber. Remember, Faz brought him pornogr-I mean, Literature-instead of information to bring Amber down. If Blaine read it, there’s not a snowball’s chance in Hell that Faz would be out of his sight.

            • adam Black
              adam Black
              July 28, 2020 at 11:36 pm | #

              Or Faz lied.
              we know he never warned amber.

              Plus that contradicted by him spending the day mapping out AMBERS social graph and giving it to Blaine.

      • adam Black
        adam Black
        July 28, 2020 at 11:37 pm | #

        Nobody forced him to Let Blaine Go.

  46. Roborat
    Roborat
    July 28, 2020 at 3:21 pm | #

    Hard to believe I am starting to like the little weasel.

  47. PB
    PB
    July 28, 2020 at 3:46 pm | #

    Maybe now they can finally bond as a family.

  48. Johan
    Johan
    July 28, 2020 at 8:39 pm | #

    Wonder how amber is gonna get her schooling paid for.

  49. Opus the Poet
    Opus the Poet
    July 28, 2020 at 9:44 pm | #

    Well we know now that somebody got Faz off the corner, otherwise how would he know which hospital to go to? There are 3 in Bloomington.

  50. Vukodlak
    Vukodlak
    July 28, 2020 at 10:14 pm | #

    Still waiting for Faz to brush his hair away to reveal a huge black eye. Really make Joyce feel terrible for that “Do you have a face that isn’t punch-able” joke.

  51. adam Black
    adam Black
    July 28, 2020 at 10:52 pm | #

    He’s a Multiple accomplice to multiple premeditated kidnappings and felony murder.

    I’m tired of hearing people feeling bad for him, inventing abuse backstories.

    He Needs to face justice and consequences for this

    • JetstreamGW
      JetstreamGW
      July 28, 2020 at 11:16 pm | #

      I mean… It’s unlikely that anyone’s inventing abuse backstories.

      Blaine is an abuser. Do you really think he only abused one of his children?

      • JetstreamGW
        JetstreamGW
        July 28, 2020 at 11:17 pm | #

        Also, like, he’s fourteen. The juvenile justice system isn’t really particularly useful. Uh, ever.

        • adam Black
          adam Black
          July 28, 2020 at 11:34 pm | #

          neither is being raised by the mob.

      • adam Black
        adam Black
        July 28, 2020 at 11:32 pm | #

        “It’s unlikely that anyone’s ”
        Its LITERALLY a fact , about 50 people commenting on this page.

        “Do you really think” and Now you are demanding I invent an abuse backstory too.

        thats texbook argument from ignorance

        He is a criminal accomplice for kidnappings and felony murder. Those are facts. You feel bad for him . You feel cognitive dissonance . So you invent an abuse backstory Willis hasnt written to relieve it. He hasnt expressed remorse and justified everything.

        “Do you really think ” he’s assaulting the Mob grandkid he works for ?

        until Willis makes it word of God, these are all inventions Fez doenst deserve.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          July 29, 2020 at 8:06 am | #

          Yes. I absolutely do think Blaine’s abusing Faz. There’s far more evidence of that – in both Blaine’s nature and Faz’s behavior, than there is that Faz is a “Mob grandkid”. Yuri’s connection with the Mob is also our invention, by these standards. She’s Asian and Blaine’s connected to an Asian mob. That doesn’t prove she’s part of the connection, much less that Blaine married into the actual boss’s family.

  52. adam Black
    adam Black
    July 28, 2020 at 11:46 pm | #

    Blaine is going to escape from the Hospital.

    and its Faz who is going to free him. ( again ) .

    ( another Faz ought to be in Juvie right now )

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