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September 20, 2023

Second semester freshman

by David M Willis on October 24, 2020 at 12:01 am
  • 01 - This Bright Millennium

└ Tags: becky, joe, joyce, sarah

Discussion (176) ¬

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  1. Injuryman
    Injuryman
    October 24, 2020 at 12:02 am | #

    … Okay but which Avengers does Joe ship, though?

    • tim gueguen
      tim gueguen
      October 24, 2020 at 12:33 am | #

      “I think the one that wears that thing, and that chick who wears that blue jumpsuit should hook up.”
      (Of course Joe knows exactly who is who, and how they differ from their comic book versions, but will never admit it.)

      • woobie
        woobie
        October 24, 2020 at 1:02 am | #

        Joe ships himself with the lady Avengers.

        • clif
          clif
          October 24, 2020 at 10:34 am | #

          Surprise. He’s more of an X-persons fan.

      • UnfrozenNeanderthal
        UnfrozenNeanderthal
        October 24, 2020 at 1:09 am | #

        I feel called out here.

    • clif
      clif
      October 24, 2020 at 10:38 am | #

      Actually it’s academic. The Avengers all died during the time skip.

  2. Suet
    Suet
    October 24, 2020 at 12:02 am | #

    *shiiiips…. anyone with T’Challa?*

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      October 24, 2020 at 12:03 am | #

      Well, maybe not Shuri, that’s not Amber’s kink.

    • not someone else
      not someone else
      October 24, 2020 at 12:16 am | #

      There really should be more T’Challa/Bucky(/Steve). Who knows what happened during all that downtime?

      • Johan
        Johan
        October 24, 2020 at 1:22 am | #

        I like to think they’re no top or bottom but they all interchangeablly like to touch penis together.

        • Demoted Oblivious
          Demoted Oblivious
          October 24, 2020 at 3:13 am | #

          What, like a tri-dock-en?

      • Keith
        Keith
        October 24, 2020 at 7:16 pm | #

        T’Chucky?

    • a/snow/mous/e
      a/snow/mous/e
      October 24, 2020 at 2:28 am | #

      rip Chadwick Boseman

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      October 24, 2020 at 3:05 am | #

      Well, based on Amber’s habits (most popular slash ship for each) my guess is Tony Stark. Or if, she’s in a fucked up mood, Killmonger.

    • JepMZ
      JepMZ
      October 24, 2020 at 7:41 pm | #

      There was a famous shipping of T’Challa and his dead rival and gave them cat ears.

  3. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    October 24, 2020 at 12:03 am | #

    Still Stucky, yes? Are we down with that?

    …which ones are still alive =|

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      October 24, 2020 at 12:06 am | #

      Steve’s retired, so now Amber’s main pair are Ant-Man/Hulk.

      She sees a lot of smolder in that scene where Hulk shares his Taco Bell.

      • Mobcat
        Mobcat
        October 24, 2020 at 12:13 am | #

        So wait, does that mean Amber’s the one who wrote the Stucky article on Wikipedia?

      • Emily
        Emily
        October 24, 2020 at 12:13 am | #

        Come now, everyone knows the best ships are between the people who have never interacted on screen before

        • UnfrozenNeanderthal
          UnfrozenNeanderthal
          October 24, 2020 at 12:42 am | #

          No, everyone knows that if you’re shipping the film versions you’re doing it wrong.

          • He Who Abides
            He Who Abides
            October 24, 2020 at 7:27 pm | #

            Not if you ship film version x comic version.

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        October 24, 2020 at 12:46 am | #

        Antman/Hulk is wishful thinking at best. The real ships with meat on their bones are Tony and Bruce (who already have two kids together by the way) or Thor and Hulk whose relationship has been built up over 3 movies from their fight in Avengers 1 one to true bros in Thor 3!

        • Adalisa
          Adalisa
          October 24, 2020 at 2:45 am | #

          Science Boyfriends forever.

          • anonymousethatscurriesinthedarkness
            anonymousethatscurriesinthedarkness
            October 24, 2020 at 8:53 am | #

            Science Bros would be Antman and Spiderman and their mutual distaste would be Mr.Fantastic, that [scoville-diatribe].

        • liliaeth
          liliaeth
          October 24, 2020 at 6:35 am | #

          nah, the real ships are Steve/Sam, and Tony/Rhodey

          • emusam
            emusam
            October 24, 2020 at 9:31 am | #

            ^_^

    • dazed and
      dazed and
      October 24, 2020 at 12:06 am | #

      ah, of course

  4. dazed and
    dazed and
    October 24, 2020 at 12:06 am | #

    STUCKYY

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      October 24, 2020 at 10:41 am | #

      Stucky rules Stony drools

  5. Chris
    Chris
    October 24, 2020 at 12:06 am | #

    How about just doing one big ship of everyone who was on the helicarrier?

    • Kernanator
      Kernanator
      October 24, 2020 at 12:10 am | #

      Can’t go wrong with the giant fuckpile.

    • showler
      showler
      October 24, 2020 at 12:12 am | #

      Maybe “helicarrier” can be the term for large scale group shipping?

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      October 24, 2020 at 12:49 am | #

      It is a ship that flies. Not sure you want your ship to go out like the Hindenberg rather than the Titanic, though.

  6. showler
    showler
    October 24, 2020 at 12:10 am | #

    He’s married.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      October 24, 2020 at 2:37 am | #

      Pfft. Like that ever stopped shippers.

      • Keulen
        Keulen
        October 24, 2020 at 2:45 am | #

        Shippers don’t care about silly things like canon relationships.

  7. Bogeywoman
    Bogeywoman
    October 24, 2020 at 12:11 am | #

    Probably black widow and wasp and captain marvel and pepper Potts…. or his self insert based on iron man with all of the above….. OR black widow and wonder woman

    • Zach
      Zach
      October 24, 2020 at 8:06 pm | #

      You KNOW what wasps do to black widows.
      Who would ship that anthropomorphised?

  8. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    October 24, 2020 at 12:13 am | #

    As somebody whose Avengers were the Sixties cartoon kind, and I got tired of that waiting for it to get better, I know I’m not in the target audience anymore.

    • Stephen Bierce
      Stephen Bierce
      October 24, 2020 at 12:14 am | #

      Really, two thirds of the ones you have now didn’t even EXIST when I was a kid. Though the world is definitely better that they came along.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        October 24, 2020 at 8:52 am | #

        Now I’m trying to remember which movie Avengers weren’t around by the 60s. The movie versions of Captain Marvel and Ant-Man didn’t, though their earlier namesakes existed. The various Guardians characters didn’t. Falcon and Vision were late in the 60s. War Machine was later. Winter Soldier was still Bucky and still dead.
        I think all the other main characters were from the 60s, though some of the supporting cast are more recent.

    • pdp15
      pdp15
      October 24, 2020 at 12:23 am | #

      For me, the Avengers are John Steed and Mrs. Peel. Everybody shipped them.

      • Geneseepaws
        Geneseepaws
        October 24, 2020 at 12:29 am | #

        Oh, yes PLEASE!! Ms. Rigg had just the right chemistry for that part, it’s a shame they didn’t make more seasons.

        • Opus the Poet
          Opus the Poet
          October 24, 2020 at 12:53 am | #

          I think they kinda drove the whole mess over a cliff when they found Mr. Peel next-to-last show.

      • Agemegos
        Agemegos
        October 24, 2020 at 1:07 am | #

        Oh yeah!

      • Dara
        Dara
        October 24, 2020 at 4:53 am | #

        Clearly Stephen doesn’t know this song or would’ve hacked the music system or whatever to play it already.

        You’re welcome.

      • Corneel
        Corneel
        October 24, 2020 at 9:04 am | #

        That series was called “Chapeau melon et bottes de cuir” in French (“Bowler hat and leather boots”). Make of that what you want.

  9. Brumagem
    Brumagem
    October 24, 2020 at 12:13 am | #

    I don’t ship Hawkeye with nobody but that big fuckin cliff

    • Demoted Oblivious
      Demoted Oblivious
      October 24, 2020 at 3:15 am | #

      Come and get it all, at Boston Pizza.

  10. BBCC
    BBCC
    October 24, 2020 at 12:14 am | #

    Look, she isn’t hard to make happy. She ships the biggest slash ship for each character, especially if the popular pairing includes Steve Rogers. Stucky, Stony, SuperBat, probably Stormpilot and Zukka these days. She is not difficult to please.

    • NinjaMaid
      NinjaMaid
      October 24, 2020 at 12:42 am | #

      Stony is a little divisive post civil war especially among Team Iron Man, a lot of people got turned off the pairing

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        October 24, 2020 at 1:11 am | #

        All I know is Amber shipped ’em both last semester.

        • anonymousethatscurriesinthedarkness
          anonymousethatscurriesinthedarkness
          October 24, 2020 at 9:01 am | #

          Last Semester was YEARS ago though and things change.

          • Demoted Oblivious
            Demoted Oblivious
            October 24, 2020 at 9:45 am | #

            What? No. Last semester was just last year!

            • clif
              clif
              October 24, 2020 at 10:12 am | #

              Yeah. Some people have a really distorted time sense.

            • Deanatay
              Deanatay
              October 24, 2020 at 10:43 am | #

              Please. Last semester is SO last week.

              • clif
                clif
                October 24, 2020 at 11:33 am | #

                At this point, technically last month.

                Specifically, so last September the 8th.

  11. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    October 24, 2020 at 12:15 am | #

    Sarah’s grimace in panel three is very on-brand.

    • JessWitt
      JessWitt
      October 24, 2020 at 12:26 am | #

      It’d make a great avatar.

      • ValdVin
        ValdVin
        October 24, 2020 at 9:05 am | #

        Don’t tempt me.

        Okay, tempt me.

        • Demoted Oblivious
          Demoted Oblivious
          October 24, 2020 at 11:56 pm | #

          Is that some kind of Gandalf/Frodo ship?

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      October 24, 2020 at 2:35 am | #

      It’s a great reaction face, though I still think Joyce has had the best reaction faces so far.

  12. Mra
    Mra
    October 24, 2020 at 12:17 am | #

    As long as their gay it’s good

    • Geneseepaws
      Geneseepaws
      October 24, 2020 at 12:38 am | #

      Would that be Hawkeye slash Radar? Or Hawkeye/Blake?

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        October 24, 2020 at 9:44 am | #

        Burns/Latrine

  13. Badgermole
    Badgermole
    October 24, 2020 at 12:18 am | #

    Is he… talking about Penny? Does Joe have the self-awareness to realize how fucked up that was?

    • lsdf
      lsdf
      October 24, 2020 at 12:20 am | #

      Who was Penny again?

      • Badgermole
        Badgermole
        October 24, 2020 at 12:21 am | #

        https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-5/02-threes-a-crowd/twelvethirty/

        • lsdf
          lsdf
          October 24, 2020 at 11:58 am | #

          Thanks.

    • Sunny
      Sunny
      October 24, 2020 at 8:23 am | #

      Now that you mention it I can absolutely see it.

  14. lsdf
    lsdf
    October 24, 2020 at 12:19 am | #

    I mean not everyone has to like Hawkeye, but he is very cute with Coulson.

    • UnfrozenNeanderthal
      UnfrozenNeanderthal
      October 24, 2020 at 12:40 am | #

      I try not to judge.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      October 24, 2020 at 3:06 am | #

      Do you mind if I ask the appeal of that ship? I’ve been in the fandom from day 1 and never understood it.

      • lsdf
        lsdf
        October 24, 2020 at 3:30 pm | #

        I don’t mind you asking, but I don’t think I can quite explain.

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          October 25, 2020 at 12:22 am | #

          That’s fair. I have lots of ships where I can’t really explain why I like it, I just do.

  15. nobodybasically
    nobodybasically
    October 24, 2020 at 12:23 am | #

    Is Hawkeye the worst because of the character or because of Jeremy Renner?

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      October 24, 2020 at 12:37 am | #

      I mean between Endgame’s… many choices with him, the MCU character’s not particularly compelling at the moment. And the comics version will almost certainly pivot back to ‘endearing loser’ soon enough, but it’s been a weird couple years and we haven’t reached the point where we can forget Civil War II ever happened yet. So there are reasons besides Jeremy Renner. (I don’t even remember the context of Jeremy Renner being noteworthy in shittiness, just that it was significant. The past is mired in fog, and far more distant than it should be.)

      • He Who Abides
        He Who Abides
        October 24, 2020 at 12:42 am | #

        I think part of it is that Hawkeye didn’t really exist in Avengers, maybe?

      • UniqueSnowflake2
        UniqueSnowflake2
        October 24, 2020 at 1:00 am | #

        That’s *Academy* *Award* *nominee* Jeremy Renner.

      • Arioch
        Arioch
        October 24, 2020 at 7:29 am | #

        A lot of people get mad at Renner because he says a lot of sexist and misogynist shit when he isn’t paying attention to what comes out of his mouth. He may or may not mean it, but the point is that he says it. People really got their undies in a knot (deservedly) when he and Evans did an interview and implied that Black Widow was a slut. They both had to apologize afterward. Add to that the myriad stories about his private life (that frankly, none of us need to know about, especially when we can’t know the validity of the stories) and you get a lot of people who think he is a shit human being.

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          October 24, 2020 at 4:16 pm | #

          There was also the time he was told about an anti-Romani slur and started saying it repeatedly. Mark Ruffalo did the same thing at the same time iirc.

      • seikodelic
        seikodelic
        October 24, 2020 at 9:36 am | #

        He did a ton of cocaine and threatened the mother of his child with a gun.
        https://www.thedailybeast.com/jeremy-renners-ex-wife-claims-he-threatened-to-kill-her-put-gun-in-his-mouth

    • Nono
      Nono
      October 24, 2020 at 1:04 am | #

      I don’t even know what Renner’s done, but Pratt’s running away with the poop award at the moment.

  16. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    October 24, 2020 at 12:24 am | #

    Last panel punchline got me. Shipping wars are serious business.

    • Chris
      Chris
      October 24, 2020 at 12:32 am | #

      Worst flame war I ever saw was over whether a particular character should be shipped with his own right hand… or his own left hand.

      • He Who Abides
        He Who Abides
        October 24, 2020 at 12:46 am | #

        Mine was on a Winx Club forum, where people were arguing about who Riven should be paired with based on which character would make him suffer the most. At some point it devolved into racist tirades and death threats between two posters that just would not chill the fuck out.

        • BBCC
          BBCC
          October 24, 2020 at 3:00 am | #

          Damn. Sounds like a fun time. TF gets that heated about Winx Clu – Oh who am I kidding, the fandom was always like that.

          • He Who Abides
            He Who Abides
            October 24, 2020 at 8:19 am | #

            Yep.

            Funny thing is, I used that thread to figure out if a ‘ship I was planning to use for a fanfiction would be a healthier one, and then I just sat back to watch the war.

            • BBCC
              BBCC
              October 24, 2020 at 3:48 pm | #

              Well, now I’m just wondering what you were shipping. 😉

              Personally, I would think Sky or Brandon would piss him off the most. They were usually the ones he had the most problems with.

              • He Who Abides
                He Who Abides
                October 24, 2020 at 7:37 pm | #

                I was pairing him off with Lucy, as part of an AU where Bloom, Stella, and Musa got into CloudTower instead of Alfea and ended up forming a group of witches with Lucy and Mirta (I’m still working on this one, and I actually plan on publishing it). I figured they’d be a non-tsundere-x-whatever-Musa-is version of the canonical dumpster fire he was a part of.

                If I wanted him to suffer, I’d pair canonRiven x canonIcy. He’d be her fucktoy, except for when she used him to piss off Darcy.

                • BBCC
                  BBCC
                  October 24, 2020 at 10:54 pm | #

                  I like him and Musa, but I think him and Lucy would be interesting. She has a real desire for approval and he’s not good at feelings so that’d be fascinating.

                • He Who Abides
                  He Who Abides
                  October 25, 2020 at 12:28 am | #

                  You might be the first person I’ve met who still actually likes Musa x Riven. I didn’t mind them at first, but their constant fighting post-Nickelodeon takeover got old, fast. As for my fanfic pairing, it has more to do with wanting to write for him (he was one of the better boyfriends, IMO) than anything else.

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            October 24, 2020 at 12:29 pm | #

            Fandom is as fandom does.

      • Regalli
        Regalli
        October 24, 2020 at 12:46 am | #

        Was it at least that one manga (I think, maybe it was an anime exclusively) series where his hand got replaced by a classmate with a crush, who was now a tiny, sentient, permanent hand puppet?

      • Demoted Oblivious
        Demoted Oblivious
        October 24, 2020 at 3:18 am | #

        Left handed Mike?

      • davidbreslin101
        davidbreslin101
        October 24, 2020 at 6:36 am | #

        “Keep your drink just give me the money
        It’s just you and your non-dominant hand tonight”

  17. Regalli
    Regalli
    October 24, 2020 at 12:32 am | #

    This alt text is Kate Bishop erasure and I will not stand for it. All hail the One True Hawkeye.

    HawkGUY, on the other hand? Yeah don’t ship him he’s the worst.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      October 24, 2020 at 3:00 am | #

      IKR?

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      October 24, 2020 at 6:43 am | #

      I blame Matt Fraction.

      • Regalli
        Regalli
        October 24, 2020 at 10:57 am | #

        I blame the MCU, who turned him into Generic SHIELD Agent, But With Bow.

        Also, Civil War II, which was just a bad story for all involved.

  18. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    October 24, 2020 at 12:35 am | #

    I understand Joyce’s concern for Amber but also people shouldn’t have to walk on eggshells around her either. This may sound a little cold but these are Amber’s issues to deal with and she’s the one lashing out. Joyce introduced a new person and Amber took it badly. Mike’s death is still raw for her but that ain’t on Joyce at all and I hate that she feels like she somehow fucked up! Total bullshit!

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      October 24, 2020 at 12:41 am | #

      Joyce really has no modes between ‘no boundaries whatsoever’ and ‘anxiety,’ so it makes sense to me that she does. Still doesn’t mean it’s her fault though, I agree. Amber needs so much more support than she’s received, and I hate that she was starting to make progress before this happened. These kids deserve so much better.

      So y’know. Time for the scheduled shouts of DAMN YOU, WILLIS!, so as to sustain their capricious god. We cannot stop their path. We can only curse it, and hope he chooses to hear.

      • He Who Abides
        He Who Abides
        October 24, 2020 at 12:48 am | #

        Amber does need support, but they also have a habit of using other people as dumping grounds/punching bags when they really should get some help instead.

        • Regalli
          Regalli
          October 24, 2020 at 1:02 am | #

          Agreed. It is definitely not on Joyce, or anyone else until AmbG are willing to start trying again. But I sure do wish the therapists on campus were even remotely qualified to help, and it sure does sound like they are not.

          Actually, no, as ever my big wish is that fucking Blaine hadn’t managed to convince everyone involved that seld-defense classes were the solution to Amber’s trauma, 100%, no other steps that could make it harder for him to abuse her necessary. May you rot in hell with your Walkyverse counterpart, Blaine.

          • Regalli
            Regalli
            October 24, 2020 at 1:06 am | #

            Because seriously, that they push everyone who could actually relate out of hand is a hugeass problem, but even if they tried those problems are way out of everyone else’s pay grade. Competent! Compassionate! Plural-inclusive! Support!

      • Geneseepaws
        Geneseepaws
        October 24, 2020 at 7:45 am | #

        The gods always .hear., my question is DYW hears our calls, but will He harken to us?

  19. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    October 24, 2020 at 12:41 am | #

    I’m glad the alt-text said it so I don’t have to. Everytime I remember Hawkeye I remember the comic where Spidey had to pretend that Hawk didn’t miss his shot so his ego and self worth wouldn’t be crushed.

    If I had a link to that comic I would post it, unfortunately I don’t.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      October 24, 2020 at 9:03 am | #

      Every character who’s been around for decades has had some crappy writing tearing them down for the sake of making another character look good.

  20. Mordecai
    Mordecai
    October 24, 2020 at 12:46 am | #

    I can’t wait for Joe’s character development to finally start again. It was a great reveal that he’s using this uber-sexual persona to avoid being vulnerable, but I feel like we never get any looks behind the curtaim or hints/allusions to that when he does appear.

    • Nono
      Nono
      October 24, 2020 at 1:06 am | #

      Well he doesn’t really have anyone to be vulnerable around with really. He’s kind of keeping a safe distance from Joyce, interactions with Danny are sparse and mostly keeping to ‘safe’ subjects, and we haven’t seen Jacob in a while. And it’s not like he’s going to open up to Sarah, who treats him with cold indifference, or Becky, where it’s basically the equivalent of pitting two betta fish advertising their sexualities against each other.

      • Sunny
        Sunny
        October 24, 2020 at 8:28 am | #

        That last last comparison made me giggle.
        A lot.

  21. StClair
    StClair
    October 24, 2020 at 1:02 am | #

    Speaking of supers, those are some very Wonderella expressions on Sarah.

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      October 24, 2020 at 1:06 am | #

      Her growing disdain fills me with glee.

    • davidbreslin101
      davidbreslin101
      October 24, 2020 at 6:32 am | #

      Thank you for reminding me that Wonderella is a thing!

  22. nothri
    nothri
    October 24, 2020 at 1:07 am | #

    Frankly I think Captain America and Wonderwoman would be perfect for each other.

  23. abysswatcher1993
    abysswatcher1993
    October 24, 2020 at 1:08 am | #

    I don’t ship in the Avengers fandom. Everyone ships gay ships just because of fujoshis and not because of actual romantic tension. Also, romance in the marvel comics and the MCU seems futile.

    1)Tony has too many problems. Enough to make Pepper reconsider her life choices.
    2)Marvel writers keep killing Peter’s girlfriends, or erasing his marriages, or MAKING GWEN STACY FUCK THE GREEN GOBLIN!!!!
    3)THE SUMMERS FAMILY TREE!!!!
    4)The incest in Ultimate Avengers!
    5)What happened to Wanda and Vision!
    6)Deadpool’s love life.
    7)Couple in the MCU are as volatile as easily reactive chemicals.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      October 24, 2020 at 3:08 am | #

      Not what fujoshi means but whatever.

      Since when do folks need canon romantic tension to be shipped? I’ve shipped on less interaction than some of the popular but rarely interacting MCU ships.

      • Nono
        Nono
        October 24, 2020 at 3:22 am | #

        They’re basically women who are really into the idea of gay ships. The stereotype seems to be that they’re particularly into shipping the prettyboys with each other, too (so I guess in MCU terms, the Caps and Buckys and Tonys).

        • Sam
          Sam
          October 24, 2020 at 11:21 pm | #

          Some go too far into just being fetishistic though which is why some people use it very negatively or have very negative opinions on it, especially if irl they have been harassed by people trying to do so to them.

    • Zee
      Zee
      October 24, 2020 at 11:41 am | #

      I just ship cap and bucky cuz it makes sense. I mean, who els would understand them and their issued but each other

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        October 24, 2020 at 1:13 pm | #

        It’s too gross for me, since my mental image of Steve and Bucky is still of Bucky as his kid sidekick from flashbacks to the WWII comics. I know the movie versions are different and there’s an adult Bucky around now in the comics, but that’s still my reference.

  24. JR
    JR
    October 24, 2020 at 1:10 am | #

    Aw, I can’t even ship Hawkeye and his ex-wife Mockingbird and her boyfling Lance all at the same time, like in Volume 2 of Mockingbird? Gosh darn it I wish that series hadn’t been cancelled. It was smart, funny as hell, sex-positive…a real treat. And it passed the Bechdel test, obviously.

    Seriously, DOA fans should know about Mockingbird, she rules (in her own series, anyway).

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      October 24, 2020 at 3:02 am | #

      In my actual life I like Clintasha and Clint with Bobbi. And OT3 yes.

      Look, I like to multiship.

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      October 24, 2020 at 6:41 am | #

      Too bad the writer of Mockingbird turned out to be a terf.

      • JR
        JR
        October 24, 2020 at 7:53 pm | #

        I hadn’t heard about that, Spencer, so I went and Googled it. Having done so, I’m uncomfortable buying in on that interpretation. Anyone reading this is free to make their own assessment; for me, I take Cain at her word when she says “You don’t have to have a uterus to be a woman. Anyone who thinks that hasn’t been paying attention” and “If you are trans and feel excluded by MAN-EATERS, that’s on me. Not you. You are glorious. And brave. And, gah. Thank you. I am listening. I am trying.”

  25. Agemegos
    Agemegos
    October 24, 2020 at 1:12 am | #

    Surely Joe isn’t trolling Sarah!

    • clif
      clif
      October 24, 2020 at 11:40 am | #

      Eh, it’s been a semester. He’s reestablishing his brand.

  26. thumb
    thumb
    October 24, 2020 at 1:22 am | #

    I don’t think I knew anybody specifically like that at university, but my god we were exactly that young and stupid. Sarah is making the right face. That’s the same face I make when I think back on all the crap that came out of my mouth back then.

  27. Bagge
    Bagge
    October 24, 2020 at 3:00 am | #

    What fictional people would fuck seems like something Joe and amber could bond around.

    He was really upset that time in gender studies about miss piggie dating someone without a dick

    • drs
      drs
      October 24, 2020 at 3:08 am | #

      Was he?

      • Bagge
        Bagge
        October 24, 2020 at 7:53 am | #

        Sure was

        https://www.dumbingofage.com/2012/comic/book-2/03-the-first-step-towards-recovery/themuppets/

        • ValdVin
          ValdVin
          October 24, 2020 at 9:08 am | #

          I’m impressed that somewhere before college Joe picked up enough about amphibian reproduction to know this.

    • Zaxares
      Zaxares
      October 24, 2020 at 6:26 am | #

      What makes him think Miss Piggy has female parts? She’s a muppet! They ALL have mega holes down there. ;P

      • davidbreslin101
        davidbreslin101
        October 24, 2020 at 6:29 am | #

        …dear god, my brain has just reclassified the entire Muppets Show as “fisting videos”.

        • Sunny
          Sunny
          October 24, 2020 at 8:34 am | #

          And the threads: Bondage

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          October 24, 2020 at 9:26 am | #

          Some of the characters need you to get all up in there before they really come alive.

        • He Who Abides
          He Who Abides
          October 24, 2020 at 12:30 pm | #

          Really? You had to ruin it for the rest of the class?

      • Demoted Oblivious
        Demoted Oblivious
        October 24, 2020 at 9:52 am | #

        That is some wicked shocking imagery, I gotta hand it to you.

  28. Disastroid
    Disastroid
    October 24, 2020 at 4:16 am | #

    Can’t wait for the eventual cold open for a new chapter when Sarah wakes up with Joe.

    • Sunny
      Sunny
      October 24, 2020 at 8:35 am | #

      And Joyce is all “YOU SLEPT WITH MY BIG SIS?!”

      • clif
        clif
        October 24, 2020 at 10:29 am | #

        Go back and look at Sarah’s interactions with Jacob and what she is actually looking for in a guy.

        • Sunny
          Sunny
          October 24, 2020 at 10:42 pm | #

          Well, she’s not looking for someone who waits until marriage. The way Jacob does. She does seem to have a preference for tall and muscled, the way Jacob is (and Joe as well). She may be looking for a person of color, though I’d say that’s a tertiary concern at most given how she reacted to Joyce when she was worried it might be racist to try and pair up Sarah and Jacob.
          As best I can tell Sarah is looking for “Tall, strong, and handsome, DTF but not too easy”.

  29. GUIGUI
    GUIGUI
    October 24, 2020 at 4:50 am | #

    I ship Hawkeye with his wife.

    • clif
      clif
      October 24, 2020 at 11:10 am | #

      It takes all kinds.

      Still, I have to wonder if you grasp the essence of the joy of shipping.

      • GUIGUI
        GUIGUI
        October 24, 2020 at 4:18 pm | #

        Of course I do. The lead male protagonist interact with what appear to be the lead female protagonist and that means they must end up together. EVERYTHING ELSE IS WRONG!

        • lsdf
          lsdf
          October 24, 2020 at 5:58 pm | #

          I have never heard such heresy in my life!

  30. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    October 24, 2020 at 5:16 am | #

    I don’t think I could point the name of most avengers

    • emusam
      emusam
      October 24, 2020 at 8:59 am | #

      I don’t think most Avengers fans can. The list on the comics wiki takes up more than one screen.

      • clif
        clif
        October 24, 2020 at 10:24 am | #

        I think you are either underestimating the fans or are interpreting the term too loosely.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          October 24, 2020 at 10:37 am | #

          Maybe. There are a lot of them though and it’s been over a 60 year history. There are a lot of pretty obscure characters who were Avengers for about 5 minutes.

          • clif
            clif
            October 24, 2020 at 11:01 am | #

            Are we including the Dark Avengers, Reserve Avengers, Secret Avengers, New Avengers, West Coast Avengers and the like? I mean, the ones after the 70’s don’t really count. 😀

          • Daibhid C
            Daibhid C
            October 24, 2020 at 5:59 pm | #

            John Steed, Cathy Gale, Emma Peel, um … Tara … King? And Purdey and Gambit. Oh, and the surgeon guy from before Mrs Peel that no-one cares about.

            • Daibhid C
              Daibhid C
              October 24, 2020 at 6:00 pm | #

              Seriously, I think I could name everyone who apears in Kurt Busiek’s “Look, it’s literally all the Avengers” storyline from ’98. Eventually. After that it gets a bit trickier.

              • thejeff
                thejeff
                October 24, 2020 at 6:19 pm | #

                Ah, but could you name all of the names they used in Morgan Le Fay’s alternate reality in that storyline?

      • JaneDoe
        JaneDoe
        October 26, 2020 at 4:35 am | #

        I mean, I couldn’t list them all off the top of my head. If you showed me a drawing of all of them together though? I bet I could name at least 70-80% of them. More if we only count the ones who were on the team for more than a single storyline 😉

  31. Lone Duck
    Lone Duck
    October 24, 2020 at 5:54 am | #

    … Sigh. I’ve been giving Joe too much credit for personal growth. Having said that, there’s an unkept messiness to him. Doesn’t seem like the way to be recognized as a probable adult.

    • Sunny
      Sunny
      October 24, 2020 at 8:37 am | #

      I don’t know… it looks more like a kept messiness to me.

  32. Spencer
    Spencer
    October 24, 2020 at 6:39 am | #

    Hawkeye for 40+ years was a swashbuckling carnie who lived larger than anyone around him (quite literally that one time he became Giant Man because his bow broke and he was too broke to get a new one) and wore Wolverine’s hat over a decade before Wolverine showed up.

    Now he’s just A Guy, but for some reason this stuck.

  33. Peter
    Peter
    October 24, 2020 at 7:27 am | #

    Sarah’s face in that third panel.

    • Daibhid C
      Daibhid C
      October 24, 2020 at 5:50 pm | #

      “I interacted with Joe and I knew that was going to be a mistake before I did it, but I regret it even more than I expected.”

  34. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    October 24, 2020 at 9:09 am | #

    Okay, it’s already a well-known fact that I’ve never seen Jurassic Park.

    Looks like now I gotta learn something about Avengers.

  35. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    October 24, 2020 at 9:24 am | #

    Hawkeye is the best!

    Hawkeye x Houlihan 4 lyfe (as long as she’s post-Donald, like around season 8 or 9)

    • Demoted Oblivious
      Demoted Oblivious
      October 24, 2020 at 9:54 am | #

      Wait… the 4077th?

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        October 24, 2020 at 11:14 am | #

        Best care anywhere!

    • He Who Abides
      He Who Abides
      October 24, 2020 at 12:32 pm | #

      Houlihan x Winchester, I will die on this hill.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        October 24, 2020 at 2:51 pm | #

        Him?! Dr. Bocce-ball head?

  36. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    October 24, 2020 at 9:25 am | #

    I totally agree with Sarah. But Joe genuinely care about Amber.

  37. goggleman64
    goggleman64
    October 24, 2020 at 10:08 am | #

    Did not see this coming, but I’m starting to like this Joe ~ his unbridled enthusiasm reminds of the sex-ed ghost from the comic “Boo! – It’s Sex!”

    Probably not being nearly as safe as he should be, though :T

  38. Jhon
    Jhon
    October 24, 2020 at 11:07 am | #

    Last panel Joe — is miming Amber’s desire to punch somebody?

  39. Ziggy78eog
    Ziggy78eog
    October 24, 2020 at 11:42 am | #

    And Joe wonders why Becky has to continuously remind that she is not interested in him. I look forward to the story arc, where Joe gets woke towards his predatory attitude, with women.

  40. ElderlyMarxist
    ElderlyMarxist
    October 24, 2020 at 5:07 pm | #

    i worry for you, joe

    (tbh people are saying he’s predatory but this looks more like he’s being preyed on)

    • ElderlyMarxist
      ElderlyMarxist
      October 24, 2020 at 5:07 pm | #

      what an avatar to have for this comment

    • Sam
      Sam
      October 24, 2020 at 10:24 pm | #

      It can be both. Some of Joe’s actions come across as predatory e.g. the list he had, but his desire to be seen as ‘probably a real adult by now’, yeah that is what some preyed upon people think and how they get manipulated. He seems to actively be looking to be preyed on though to feel like he is perceived as a ‘real adult’.

  41. Hilzabub
    Hilzabub
    October 24, 2020 at 9:25 pm | #

    I just want to say how much I love how Sarah is being drawn this semester.

    • Siggy
      Siggy
      October 24, 2020 at 10:05 pm | #

      I came here to say just that!

  42. Mr. Random
    Mr. Random
    October 25, 2020 at 6:19 pm | #

    Also he already has a wife.

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