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nor would you WANT to
Jennifer is always there with the helpful advice though.
She was the head cheerleader. She solves problems.
With the last strip’s punchline, I interpret Lucy’s rejection of this plan not being because she wouldn’t, but because her legs being asleep mean she probably can’t jump very well atm.
The flying crotch tackle IS difficult to pull off with a case of the jellies. Difficult, but not impossible
Fits with her glancing down at her legs in this strip, too.
Must be the jellies progressing.
Somebody roll Lucy over to Dorothy’s room.
The next stage is her legs seizing up and a horrible, agonising pins-and-needles sensation. I don’t envy this gal.
Maybe Lucy should try crawling over to Dorothy’s room, since her legs are probably still asleep right now. Though that might be pretty uncomfortable if she does that naked.
Also, she seems to suddenly be approximately the size of a two-year-old, which can’t help.
Dammit, now I can’t unsee that
…forced perspective is a thing.
Oh no! She caught the same disease as President Carter!!
A younger brother named Billy?
Fairly sure that last panel was inspired by a video going around the net of a very large, and very naked black lady running into a room and jumping crotch first into the camera.
i hope jennifer helps her up
Lucy’s relationship with Walky is hanging by the weak thread of two mutually attracted to each other teenagers not boning!
Uh, is Walky even attracted to Lucy? He seems extraordinarily uninterested from everything we’ve seen.
The two being referred to are Dorothy and Walky.
Yeah that makes more sense
Yeah, I think the point Socks is making is that Lucy’s relationship with Walky isn’t hanging by anything, she’s just hanging on and hoping at this point.
I’ve been there, it sucks, and tbh for her sake it’d be better if all chances (in her eyes) were obliterated sooner rather than later.
Okay, that wasn’t the point Socks was making!
Instead, let’s say that’s the point that I’m making.
That’s actually a topic of high debate. Some people think he’s so dense he hasn’t noticed, personally I don’t think he’s ever been shown to be that oblivious. I think he’s actually just not in the right mood to actually pursue a relationship right now so he’s not.
I think it’s possible he hasn’t noticed but not a slam dunk, although I don’t think it’s because he’s super oblivious, there’ always a layer of masking on seeing other people’s feelings for you.
But it’s also possible he’s just not interested in a relationship or just not interested in her, although in that case it’s kind of lousy of him to know and not say anything. Definitely in the scope of his level of desire to deal with emotional conversations, but still pretty lousy.
I mean, we’re dealing with a bunch of college freshmen trying to figure out how to be adults (hell, I’m in my mid twenties and still making shit up as I go). Lousy is to be expected at least a couple times
Absolutely true, and part of what keeps this all interesting!
Get comfortable with that “making it up as you go” feeling. I’m in my 40s now, and it is still with me often.
“Being a grownup” appears to be largely a thing that exists only in the minds of children – I think we all just keep faking it until we die.
Yeah, I’m closing in on 35 but I don’t feel all that different than I did when I was 20 . (Well, aside from the normal stuff like aches and pains, and that snacks tend to stick around longer than they used to…)
Or until we fake our death, like Mike.
Yeah, we’ll see how long he can pull off being both Booster and Jennifer.
Oh, I’ve absolutely accepted it. Hell, I’ve been telling the high school students that I mentor that while having even a general idea/plan thought out can be useful, you always need to be flexible enough to change that plan and just roll with the punches depending on how things outside of your control unfold.
https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2012-06-24
I think that since Lucy hasn’t made a move yet there’s just enough ambiguity in her intentions to justify him not rejecting her if he recognizes her feelings. Unless one of them decides to actually intentionally pursue anything beyond friendship they’re kind of in this stalemate. This is the framework for basically every teenage romcom ever.
Yeah, that’s fair.
Yeah, since she’s not pushing the issue, it would be kind of awkward to force it himself just to shut it down. Also, even if he’s noticed, he’s likely not sure, so it would be even weirder to reject her when he could still be wrong.
Keep in mind also that Walky only discovered an interest in ladies a few months ago. He is NOT worldly-wise in the ways of love.
Or wait you probably meant Walky and Dorothy huh
He’s so clearly not interested that her clinging is just kinda sad
She’s enjoying hanging around him and he likes the attention and having someone to hang around. She also may be learning something that will help her out later when it’s more important.
Easy up, there, not everybody’s a Dina.
Then again, should we check back on Daisy to see if Jenny’s love tactics work?
Highly successful. Daisy and Ruth are on round 17 and still not tired of smashing!
…Thank goodness Ruth thought to bring her Switch and Smash Bros Ultimate on their date, it’s such a good icebreaker!
Reece from Malcolm in the Middle actually tried a similar thing with a girl…. …with less than desirable results.
Whatever Lucy winds up doing, my only hope is that she doesn’t merely revive the past. There is one thing worse than a broken wheel, and that’s reinventing a broken wheel.
JENNIFER NO YOU WERE ON AN ADVICE ROLL.
Was she though? We have yet to see if her advice pans out.
Alright Willis, now I KNOW you’re baiting me.
The real question is, are you or are you not a river trout?
I’m betting the answer is yes. He either is or is not.
… would an estuary trout count?
While many animals you wouldn’t expect have been shown to count as high as three, I don’t believe an estuary trout is among them.
Right, right, but is there actually any rule against an estuary trout being ennobled and given the title of count?
Well, yes, but in such a case it would be the one who ennobled the fish, rather than the estuary trout itself, who was doing the counting.
But “counting” also refers to continuing in the state of being a count.
Can you count on something that passive actually counting though?
Willis is a master at it. One might call them Yoto’s master-baiter. Do with THAT what you will Yoto!
And you let him do that without reactions? DO IT!!!! We all want to see your interpretation! Please♡.
Are you trying to get Willis or Yoto in trouble?
Is Jennifer’s plan for Lucy to perform a Frankenstiener on Walky? It is one of the sexiest suplexes to perform on someone.
It’d win me over, at least
Sounds more like a Thesz press.
I thought the Frankensteiner was a bad-ass move, but Steiner’s Tilt-A-Whirl was both a better move and a better name.
Only just noticed the Force Awakens General Leia poster and Last Jedi poster in their room. What do you wanna bet it’s secretly Billie’s and not Lucy’s, given her whole closeted-fan thing? Sort of like the arrangement where Joyce convinced everyone that Sarah put up Halloween decorations just to get a rise out of her?
*Jennifer’s (agh)
TTG Starfire’s legs weird me out.
I’m pretty sure we saw those posters already up when we first saw this room (when Jennifer was just moving in), or if not in that specific scene than definitely during some of the other Jennifer-Lucy interactions prior to the former’s attempt at self-sabotage by admitting her closet nerdiness among other things. (Would search to find an example, but on phone atm.)
The only posters I’m finding in previous comics before the timeskip are Starfire and Dexter & Monkey Master. So unless someone with better searching skills shows otherwise, this closeted fan theory seems to check out.
They’re still on Lucy’s side of the room, though.
Does this mean she knows about Kekko Kamen?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kekko_Kamen
…huh. I forgot Go Nagai made that
I am amazed, but nor surprised, to learn that exists.
Durn. Beat me to it.
Just now noticing the starfire poster, and now I just want a wide shot of all the posters in Lucy’s room.
I get a very “metal gear rising” vibe from the red one on the far right, but I *highly* doubt that’s what it is.
It is a star war
Huh… didn’t think Jennifer would care…
She wants her friends to have a good time, that’s all.
Alpha bongo. Problem solver.
Head cheerleader, problem solver.
Lovely as that image may be, I don’t know if I like the optics, especially if Walky doesn’t go for it.
Oh, it’s a bad plan. If taken seriously, some of Jennifer’s worst advice. But maybe she’ll outdo herself yet.
Yeah, there’s only a few ways that could go, and only one or two of those are good for anyone involved.
Still, there’s probably a really neat comic about that sort of thing.
“How are you at running out there naked and jumping at him crotch-first?”
“…bad.”
“OK, so subtlety won’t work… “
If you’re calling a full-frontal assault to the head “subtle”, I’m scared of what “straightforward” could be.
You’re forgetting the intended target is Walky.
Be very very afraid.
Don’t worry Lucy, what are the odds that his ex, whom has probably been on a dry spell, will want to sleep with him..?
I can understand being shy but at some point you have to be blunt with people. Especially people like Walky, whose ideas consist of wondering when the next chance to eat chicken nuggets is.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Dorothy has been finding time for occasional one-nighters during the time skip. She’s motivated and hot, and she knows what she wants, so it’s entirely in character.
Dotty did reveal a mystery third partner. Who knows exactly where that dude fits in on her timeline? It could’ve happened, although I think we’d have a least seen the guy once if it did and if she found someone else to bone I’m not sure why she’d be so thirsty for Walky unless that guy wasn’t so great for more than a one night thing.
I still think her third partner was prior to Danny. There’s something about her eyeroll back when she promised herself that one day, she’d date a guy who’s not a virgin that feels like Walky wasn’t just the second occurence of that sort of behavior, if only because she recognizes it as a pattern, and Danny and Walky alone wouldn’t be enoguh to establish it.
Entirely possible, but that would also require knowing more people and trusting them enough to have sex. At least that’s what I think, it is possible Dorothy has lower requirements for a one night stand.
I don’t think it’s at all in character. She’s never done anything to indicate she’s interested in one-night stands. Or, specifically, given her established patterns, even if she decide that was the logical solution, she’d want to find someone she was attracted to, then she’d keep on going back to them until it was a de facto relationship.
I think Lucy’s in real trouble here. Walky said “Sure” pretty quickly yesterday’s strip.
To be fair, I don’t think he was wanting to get away from Lucy, he just agreed to talk to her for a minute. But yeah I don’t see Lucy winning this anytime soon, unless Walky’s harem becomes real.
I think the implication was more that he was v v excited to interact with Dorothy. Poor Lucy wasn’t even a factor
This is now one of my favorite DOA comics ever.
The straights are not ok lol
The disaster bi is here to help!
…Okay, “help”
Never have two words resonated with me more than “disaster bi”. I think I found the title for the autobiography I’ll write in 50 years
OOOOOOoooo I could write “the problematic Pan.”
Lucy, just make a trail of chicken nuggets leading straight to your, how shall I put it, sexy bits. Figuring Walky out isn’t really rocket science.
Or she could throw a toy at his head. That might work.
Hide the bits behind a pile of McNuggets.
“Hey, it tastes like chicken!”
Lucy, do better
Yeah, that’s bad advice! Clearly what Jennifer should do is tell Lucy the following — and she should know, since she was a cheerleader:
OH WALKY YOU’RE SO FINE
YOU’RE SO FINE YOU BLOW MY MIND
HEY WALKY! HEY WALKY!
OH WALKY YOU’RE SO FINE
YOU’RE SO FINE YOU BLOW MY MIND
HEY WALKY! HEY WALKY!
Hey Walky!
You’ve been around all night and that’s a little long
You think you’ve got the right but I think you’ve got it wrong
Why can’t you say goodnight so you can take me home, Walky?
‘Cause when you say you will, it always means you won’t
You’re givin’ me the chills, baby, please baby don’t
Every night you still leave me all alone, Walky!
Oh Walky, what a pity you don’t understand
You take me by the heart when you take me by the hand
Oh Walky, you’re so pretty, can’t you understand??
It’s guys like you Walky
Oh, what you do Walky, do Walky
Don’t break my heart, Walky
So come on and give it to me any way you can
Any way you wanna do it, I’ll take it like a man
Oh please, baby, please, don’t leave me in a jam, Walky!
OH WALKY YOU’RE SO FINE
YOU’RE SO FINE YOU BLOW MY MIND
HEY WALKY! HEY WALKY!
…Well, you know the rest.
I wouldn’t be surprised if it turns out Billie was a BAD cheerleader too.
I don’t know if she was good at the actual cheering part, but she was apparently a good den mother to her flock of cheerleaders.
Of course, looking back she might have led them into a good deal of the trouble she got them out of.
God, I hate that song so much. When I was in elementary school, they’d play it in the cafeteria on the speakers during lunch hour every. Goddamn. Day. Since I was there for three years (it was the first school I went to for more than one year consecutively at that point–keep in mind that this was grades 4-6), I very quickly grew tired of it.
Didn’t know that it was a cheerleader song, though. That’s interesting.
Toni Basil was originally a choreographer. The video for this song was she and backup dancers going through a variety of cheer routines. I don’t recall Micky was ever seen.
“Oh Ricky, what a pity, don’t you understand
Every day’s a rerun and the laughter’s always canned.”
For my school it was Friday. Every. Fucking. Friday. I didn’t like it to begin with but my eye was twitching by the time they finally made it stop.
In hindsight, it was pretty funny but at the time? Murderous.
If only there was a way to tell Walky ” Hello walky I am physically attracted to you and we have similar interests. Perhaps we should go to an establishment that serves bevarages and purchase a seperate heated or cooled or room template warm beverage and a scone while we discuss topics of interest” I suppose in the case Walky chicken nuggets might be more appropriate.
“You, me, 50 piece nuggets” is an equally effective pickup line for Walky.
Lucy’s problem is, she doesn’t appear to have any figurines to throw at his head.
Given the posters, you would think she has at least one. Even I have a Baby Yoda and a set of LOTRs figures.
I’m assuming all the dragons don’t count.
We’re gonna get thrown for a loop and find out she just wants his advice about that acceptance letter we saw a while back, since he knows her pretty well and also isn’t likely to tell Joyce before Dorothy is ready for her to know.
OOOOOR we’re gonna check in on other characters and then back to walky and dorothy sweaty and with sex hair, and both of them possibly regretting it (as oft is the case when hooking up with an ex)
Or…. Joyce is waiting at the door to Read Hall to be a cock block!
Those are not mutually exclusive.
ah, the alpha bongo head cheerleader solution, I see.
I see what you did there.
Ah, the disguised Mike solution, I see.
Are you so sure?
Doesn’t it sound like something Mike would suggest?
Uh…I assumed her bed was like the other we’ve seen so far, with a desk under them, but it’s at ground level.
(and looking back, it was visible in the previous page already. Gee. Sometimes I really miss seeing things I don’t expect to see ?)
Hell, for all I know it was already displayed that way on several previous occasions, and I was just brain-blind to it, haha.
Malaya mentioned it when she moved in – Read Hall (where Joyce and co. live) have loft beds because their rooms are smaller. https://www.dumbingofage.com/2017/comic/book-8/01-face-the-strange/smaller/
Heh. It’s funny to see how ‘Jennifer’s’ attempt to rebrand herself as someone new who is “mature” and “doesn’t care” is unraveling.
Not that Lucy is in a position to know it but…
Don’t! Take! Love advice! from! Billie!
Honestly, this is probably good for Lucy. She can do better than Walky.
Oh, come on, Jen! Where are all those head cheerleader/social alpha instincts. All Lucy has to do is add a bit of makeup, take off her glasses and then slink out and adhere herself to Walky’s side in an intimate way, occasionally stroking his arm or hair in a way that screams: MINE!
Naturally, this being DoA, she’d end up doing it to Sal or something because no glasses = functionally blind.
You think that’s enough to compete with Dorothy?
I still can’t say if seeing Jennifer care so much about Lucy is really avert or utterly alarming. Her advice is both good and bad!
My deepest hope is that Walky doesn’t go with Dorothy and tells her, “Not interested.”
Then jumps on a passing truck and gives her the finger twice.
Dorothy: Wait, is he Night-Guy?
That would be awesome. But Walky is Walky…
I still can’t say it seeing Jennifer care so much about Lucy is really sweet or utterly alarming. Her advice is bad and good at the same time.
If Lucy tries that strategy on Walky, it just might get him to notice she’s interested in him. Maybe.
I guess it is established now that Billie/Jennifer are just different names, and not different personalities like Amber/AG.
Always have been.
She tries to reboot her personality once in a while, but the last two times haven’t really stuck.
Billie and Jennifer are holding Yunru (middle name) in reserve and Mike is a secret.
As a straight man who really, really likes women and the woman body… I absolutely don’t want anybody ever doing that maneuver to me.
Ladies, if you ever find yourselves in urgent need of letting somebody know (with no words, for some reason) that you really, really want them, physically you were all already given the method in a helpfully visual tutorial: Nala Eyes.
Words are severely underrated.
Yeah, they’re very unnecessary, and probably can only do harm in some cases.
Also, they don’t come easy.
How many people do you think we’re turned into furries by that scene?
My guess would be to take whatever number you or anyone else is thinking of, and then immediately double it.
Come to think of it, the 90’s was kind of the prime decade for turning out furries, wasn’t it? Between Nala and Lola Bunny from Space Jam, that one girl from Chip n’ Dale (I think her name was Gadget? I dunno, I didn’t really watch the show), Minerva Mink, and others I’m probably not remembering….the 90’s was just FULL of furry bait, now that I’m thinking about it.
Omg Gadget… how dare you remind me.
Also, Minerva Mink was waaay too overt for me. Rita, on the other hand… *fans self*
Didn’t actually grow to be a furry but I can easily see how close I was.
It appears that an apostrophe has escaped and is hiding in your sentence.
The sneaky little bastards are always hiding around my posts. They seem to hate when I type in past tense.
Wait a sec: is Jennifer checking if Lucy can do the “sarrada no ar”?
I wonder if the plotline is that Walky doesn’t like Lucy that way. It might get into some uncomfortable territory as to why since Walky is attracted to Dorothy and Joyce (other universe).
I’m going with the idea now that Lucy’s self esteem is so shot that she thinks Walky’s outward persona is the best she can hope to achieve in terms of a relationship, that the person Walky presents himself as (but isn’t necessarily that person where it matters) is the highest standard of person who will like her back.
Given that Jennifer’s popularity in her dorm seemed to cause Lucy some dismay, it’s pretty clear at this point she is desperate for affection. If Walky actually were the person he presents himself as, an unhinged moron who constantly mocks everyone around him and puts no effort into even the slightest aspect of his life, then she’d be nuts, but that’s really the only Walky she knows, isn’t it? Dorothy and Amber got Walky at his best, as someone who meant and achieved genuine good for the both of them, but what has Walky imparted to Lucy where she’s got it this bad for him?
Yeah, that’s about where I’m settling as well. He’s cute and nerdy, so it’s not like he has ZERO good properties, but she’s been stuck on him long enough I have to assume she DOESN’T think she can do better.
Yeah like despite all my griping Walky isn’t a bad person. He’s not a walking miasma who ruins everyone’s lives for no reason, he’s a pretty clear example of a well defined and familiar character; the immature goofball who will throw himself into the lives of his loved ones without understanding how it contradicts all his stated beliefs about the Dreaded Feelings.
The people Walky has his deepest relationships with, Dorothy, Amber, Billie and Sal, I fully understand why they find their way back to him because for all the immaturity and talks of his bowel movements Walky will go to the ends of the earth for them. They know Walky, they know how good he can be, they know how much he cares and he will try to show it as best as he can (his entire relationship with Dorothy, establishing Garbage Roof for Amber when Danny and Ethan didn’t understand that Amber needs to have time to feel bad without a pep talk, Billie when she went missing and Walky lead a search party, and Sal reforging her bond with Walky after he made legitimate efforts into understanding what drove them apart and how he can fix it).
Lucy, at least as far as her interactions with Walky have been shown to us, really doesn’t have that yet. She only knows Walky as the immature doofus and while that could be enough for a crush I don’t think that’s all that’s waiting in the wing if Lucy and Walky’s relationship is going to have story focus going forward after all the focus it’s had since the timeskip. Walky’s never shown his true self to her, so I kind of put her interactions with him on the same level as Sarah and Joyce, who both hate him because Walky doesn’t let himself be genuine around them and consequently all they know is his worst, most obnoxious persona.
Walky’s never been genuine with Lucy but he’s getting fawned over by a cute nerdy girl who shares all his interests and devotes a lot of time trying to get into his good graces, and in a series predicated on making all the wrong choices all the time, that’s just going to work out as intended?
Hell, if this is correct it does contextualize why Lucy is just completely incapable of vocalizing her thoughts to him: he’s supposed to want her, because Walky’s immature dorkus persona he’s presented to her should be as desperate for affection as Lucy seems to be, but he’s not biting. Lucy thinks there’s something wrong with her when even someone like Walky won’t want her (remember how absolutely elated she was when he became Nightguy and escorted her to her dorm? she was squeeing and cheering because it meant Walky had found a secret, roundabout way of showing he cared.
I think that people who assume that Lucy could do better are missing she wants Walky because he’s funny and approachable. “Better” is not what she wants.
That’s boring.
I need angst. Sweet, fulfilling angst.
Though I don’t that when Dorothy first fell for him, he’d shown her much if any of that yet – I’d have to go back and read their early interactions. Was there much beyond stammering, throwing a toy and watching cartoons?
Was Dorothy as invested into Walky when they started dating, the way Lucy seems all over him now?
Like, Dorothy had a surface attraction to him because caramel abs, then she had a rough night and unwound herself at Walky’s with some cartoons, then they had another night where she asked him if he liked her, and there ya go.
Has Walky done anything for Lucy as simple as how he acted with Dorothy? Because at least with Dorothy Walky seemed cognizant of her existence.
Plot twist: Lucy follows through with Jen’s advice, only to find herself in a surprise three-way because Dorothy and Walky were already going at it right in the middle of the hallway.
The pod people stand at the edge of the panel in wide-eyed bewilderment, for a dorm legend has been born.
If Lucy isn’t careful that Starfire poster is going to start ragging on her for being ineffectual like Ethan’s Roadblock used to.
Really hope she runs into Ken. I know this is a different universe, but he seems like there would still be a mutual attraction with the two of them.
Since Ken and Lucy both work at Galasso’s, I suspect Ken was referring to Lucy in this comic: https://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-7/01-glower-vacuum/dangit/