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Um, the question was about friends. There was no stated gender interest. I take this to mean Liz is pan. I realize this response is nearly a duplicate of Jamie’s, but it’s less obtuse.
I mean the strip submissions are due today (as in, the in-universe “today”) so I get the distinct feeling that if it’s happening it’s gonna happen soon.
I… think that the “him” Sarah’s referring to here is Jacob?
On my first reading, I thought this was Jacob, and they were talking in hypotheticals because Liz had heard about Jacob. On rereading, it does sound more like a Past Incident we know nothing about.
“Objection! Your honor, the topic of conversation is irrelevant. My client clearly stated that the woman was single, not that she was hot. Any further speculation on her intended meaning in mere hearsay.”
Julia will confess her feelings to Doris but while she will reciprocate them she will instead leave her forever to engage in president training on the Moon.
… also, technically speaking, I think the sun is one of only two spherical bodies in the solar system that DON’T experience summer.
(MAYBE you can argue that the other one does experience summer, but it’s such a minor difference that no, it doesn’t. And I’m not covering the non-spherical bodies because I don’t care to track down a table of axial tilts for every last comet and asteroid.)
*reads facts*
ooooh you mean Mercury because it’s always facing the sun at the same angle? —wait you’ve actually checked the axial tilts of all of the moons in the solar system???
And here I would argue that aside from the sun, they all experience _summer_, but not necessarily seasonal variation that is meaningfully distinguishable from the day/night cycle. Another question is if there are two periods (overlapping) for moons, especialy Jupiter’s, since they get energy radiated at them from both Sol and Jove. For those that don’t understand yet, the wikipedia article has a great animation showing axial tilt.
okay i sprained my brain trying to visualize a moon being tilted relative to its orbit around the sun, and under what that means for its seasonality depending on its speed of rotation, forget i brought this up i hate it now. (i was gonna joke that Mercury’s axis is decidely orthogonal to its orbit or whatever but i’m too exhausted now, please, assemble your own joke; thank you)
re: earworms: heheh =) i think something like that happens in Animorphs also, as i recall from the dozen or so books i read in the span of a couple weeks when i was circa 12 years old.
A moon’s path around the sun is basically its planet’s path around the sun, with a tiny bit of wobble added that doesn’t change much about its summers and winters.
oooook i think i get it now.
a body’s axis of rotation basically stays at the same angle to its orbital plane right? there’s no force that acts on the axis of rotation itself, there’s just two essentially independent movements: an object’s rotation on itself, like a top, and its orbit around a heavier object, like a hand twirling a slingshot. and so, logically enough, some tops happen to gyrate at a greater or lesser angle to the ellipsis the slingshot is describing around the hand.
ok don’t ask me why, but modelling it like this helps, somehow
(at least i think it does, unless i’m still getting it wrong)
Pretty much? If you’re switching in the word rotating (the object spinning in place) for revolving (the object twirling around something else) then that sounds correct. The key point is that the axes of revolution and rotation should be treated as independent.
And yes, the moons revolutions relative to the sun would wobble back and forth a bit due to their revolution around their planet. But it’s a pretty small factor. Taking the worst case as an illustration:
The largest known orbital distance for a moon in the solar system is Neptune’s moon Neso. At its most extreme, it’s over half an AU (distance from Earth to the sun) away from Neptune. It’s axis of revolution around Neptune is also severely inclined relative to Neptune’s orbit around the sun — about 45 degrees off (and also it’s rotating backwards, but that doesn’t matter here). If it were instead purely perpendicular to Neptune’s orbit, producing the maximum difference possible… then the angular distance between it and Neptune, seen from the sun, would at its most extreme, be less than .005 degrees. In other words, its path around the sun is basically Neptune’s path, plus a tiny bit of wobble that doesn’t matter much.
Erf, misread your reply, you WEREN’T mixing up rotation and revolution and had it pretty much right. (TECHNICALLY there are things where the axis of revolution has a long-term affect on the access of rotation, which is how we end up with tidally locked bodies like Luna and Mercury, but they’re not relevant to this conversation.)
A lot of this is redundant following the new comments, but to share what I’ve written anyways…
So planets orbit on their own ‘disk’ all generally close to the celestial disk from the sun’s equator or the center of angular momentum of the stellar system. This is called orbital inclination.
Moons also have an inclination compared to their parent planet. None of this however, affects their seasons. The seasons will be primarily affected by the axial tilt (spinning axis) of the planet or moon to the orbit around the sun. For the planet, their seasons are only affected by the this tilt, because this makes their poles face toward or away from the sun.
But my curiosity was about the moons specifically, because Jupiter is quite hot. As it turns out, three of the Galilean moons do have an axial tilt to their orbit around Jupiter, but it’s not huge. And since Jupiter is only tilted 3deg, there isn’t really a meaningful tilt.
However, should the moon’s oribtal inclination and/or axial tilt result in a significant shift from the parent planet’s orbit around the sun, that would induce solar seasons in the moon. Further, if the moon’s axial tilt is significantly deviated from it’s orbital inclination around a hot parent planet (like jupiter), that could presumably cause planetary induced seasons in the moon. And given the moon’s and planet’s respective orbits would probably be very different, could presumably produce a doubly-periodic season variation.
Lastly, to respond to a specific question here: “wouldn’t their axis tilt back and forth relative to the sun at each rotation?” No. The axis would wobble (as all spinning bodies do) but not because it’s orbiting around a planet.
Jupiter does emit some radiation, but it’s so tiny compared to what the Jovian moons get from the sun that it really shouldn’t count for things like seasons. A much bigger factor in how Jupiter warms its moons is tidal forces, which don’t much depend on which side is facing Jupiter at any moment.
“It’s weird, everyone keeps getting better looking all the time, almost as if we’re being drawn by an artist who has steadily refined his style over the course of many years. But that’s silly, and I’m an atheist now anyway.”
The end of DoA will be Joyce founding a new religion devoted to the Almighty Willis.
As a way to not say Joe. That’s really what this is about, Joyce is WAY more into Joe than she’d ever admit.
And now Liz is going to hook up with Joe, because we’re talking about Willis here.
…. and I just realized that there’s little chance that, if Liz is anything other than straight, she’d have told Joyce prior to today. Her facebook is public- and stepmom-facing and she wasn’t yet out of the closet to Joyce about not being Christian.
Also, Joyce knows Dorothy’s straight, so she’s probably not taking the possibility seriously.
There it is. I think Thag thought this thoroughly through.
Sarah was dating a non-Jacob dude. She *didn’t* tell her sister, because it seems her sister pilfering or fawning over boyfriends has been an issue, and it happened again anyways. “so you wouldn’t want to see him.”
Another possibility: Sarah secretly pined after a guy and was absolutely without a doubt going to ask him on a date someday eventually once she built up the nerve. Before that time came, Liz (the more outgoing of the two) asked him out, inadvertently clamjamming Sarah.
my god. as an older sibling with a much more outgoing, 1 year younger sibling, my skin crawls to imagine something like that happening when i was in my late teens. i would have felt murderous.
You’re not supposed to say “damn” because that’s wanting to damn someone to Hell and that’s not allowed, as far as what the kids are told. (The adults, obviously, are not… consistent about this.)
“Damn” was very definitely on my prohibited-words list while I was growing up, though it’s not the one I looked up in the dictionary.
@Rabbid, can you please include a link to the scientist’s Joyce Swears tracker? You seem to have it handy, but didn’t cite it during your reference to it. My own google-fu and lack of persistence failed me.
Because giving myself a ton of keywords to be able to look for it by is sexy. Maybe I’ll add an article in the wiki too, if someone has/does not beat me to it.
Really, It’s less about the word itself, than how it’s used. I mean, I had a grade 9 teacher have a snit over me saying “I screwed up”. So while people who are hinky about “the no-no words” seem to maintain lists, they all still cuss, just using tame obviously substituted words or their own expressions. It’s a joke. It’s all a joke, really.
Those lists only make sense for little kids, because adults are a bunch of pretentious twats and dicks who pretend that some parts of language are innapropriate for children to learn. I do teach my kids the lists and how to use them, so that
1. They don’t get into unneccessary trouble with the aformentioned dicktwats.
2. When they need to pull’em out, they have the tools to fully express themselves.
And let me tell ya, I was rarely more shocked, or more proud, than when we were horsing around and I was half-stuffing my kid into his car-seat upside down and he (laughing all the while) yelled, in his adorable little kid voice, “FUCK YOU.” Because really, if you’re being stuffed into a car *against* your will, what better thing to yell. (he was coming willingly, but we were playing. I congratulated him on the correct use of the term and we chatted about it not being for the school yard).
Which brings us back to Joyce who has always made heavy use of the euphemistic swears, as opposed to some other characters who may use the so-called bad words, but don’t do so often.
I am very much the opposite. Hate the consistency of ice cream cake, but ice cream is my favorite cake topping and vice versa. Igs perfect as long as the cake hasn’t absorbed too much, kinda like how cereal is best when not too soggy.
I don’t much care to mix the two. Get a good cake, scrape the stupid icing off unless you baked it yourself and so it never had any in the first place, have a nice tasty dessert. Then, some time later, have some delicious ice cream. Mixing the two just makes both taste and feel worse.
Like, is that “Life” in general (obviating the need for ‘the’) or married to “The Life” specifucally? (presumably meaning one driven by political aspirations)
Depends on taste and compliment preference. I would more likely refer to some such as Lucy as cute or pretty. I’ve never been much of a fan of the word ‘hot’ though to begin with so.
Seriously, though, am I the only person who is noticing the detail of the steam — actually, the water vapor condensing in the cold outer air — coming from the characters’ mouths as they talk?
He broke up with her. I think that while kissing Joyce was part of it, I think that whole storyline also kind of opened up to the knowledge that Raidah wasn’t what he wanted, either.
He kissed Joyce then broke up with Raidah because he realised he liked Joyce a lot but she also screwed up a lot so he didn’t want to be with her in a proper relationship and he didn’t want to be with Raidah knowing that he liked Joyce so much more.
Ok this prediction is an absolute shot in the dark, but screw it, these are fun to make.
Sarah is bitter after Liz stole her boyfriend. Liz sets her sights on Walky. We finally get the Lucy-Sarah team-up we always knew we wanted. Meanwhile, Walky and Joyce get caught up in whatever comic strip shenanigans idk. Crazy shit happens, somebody gets laid probably, Lucy and Sarah get closer, and Walky realizes that the real JAWsome was the friends he made along the way.
… You’ll note that Liz still hasn’t said “and single”. I think Joe is probably the most at risk. Jacob probably wouldn’t A. have a fling at all, and B. wouldn’t have a fling with Sarah’s sister. Joe is probably most at risk of making a bad choice (alienating Joyce).
Joyce clearly didn’t know the bad blood between Liz and Sarah when she became Facebook friends. I wonder how that will change things.
That’s not something I had thought of, but now that I am… If Joe came into the picture and Liz was interested, that might be incentive for Joyce to finally fully realize what her feelings are for Joe and admit them, as Joe absolutely knows how he feels about Joyce. On the other hand, if Joe does reciprocate with Liz, this might push Joyce into the hands of Dorothy, which is very good too. A win either way! Let’s get Joe in here!
When I was younger I used to not like having the different foods on my plate touching each other. Now I’m not so bothered by that, but I still don’t like the texture and taste of most vegetables. I doubt my picky eater tendencies will ever fully go away.
I remember the day when I was perhaps seven, I told my Dad he didn’t have to spoon the meat/sauce item on its own spot on the plate, but I would try it on the egg noodles.
(However, as a person who has a lot of German and Irish ancestry on both sides, I have yet to develop a taste for regular potatoes–baked, mashed, boiled.)
“All Grown Up” in terms of personality (emphasis on the quotation marks), or like she’s a character from that Nickelodeon show? Because I can see both, tbh.
OK, so I just want to point out that one can be a zero or seven on the Kinsey scale and still be able to subjectively evaluate the attractiveness of an idividual not in their “want to fuck” attractiveness region. I mean, I’m all for Joyce jumping Joe, Dorothy, or whoever. I’m just saying her identifying someone as being ‘hot'[1] doesn’t mean she wants to fuck them. (not necessarily)
[1] and n.b. as already said, Joyce may just be meaning Dotty is single. She may have skipped from ‘hot’ to ‘single’ as the categorization filter, and may (despite her openness) still be automatically answering with an available female to try and neutralize the obvious hostility happening between Sarah and her sister.
As usual, watching Joyce grow is exactly like watching myself at the same age… except I learned that the reason men and women were of equal attractiveness to me was because I’m asexual. Still, I love my little cartoon doppelganger forever. And I’m glad she’s making the right decisions. <3
(I know she's an autobiographical character… it's just that she is also 100% exactly like me in every way. Or maybe I am (was) like her.)
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I appreciate Joyce disregarding gender in her answer, for multiple reasons
Shit yeah!
Likewise.
I just spent an hour looking for this strip and I don’t remember what I was going to say about it.
That the system update is working as intended?
Her system has finally adapted to the variable increase and is once again running smoothly. Maybe she installed more RAM or something.
I read a few strips back then and now I miss Mike. Did not expect that.
Um, the question was about friends. There was no stated gender interest. I take this to mean Liz is pan. I realize this response is nearly a duplicate of Jamie’s, but it’s less obtuse.
Aaand Joyce admits that she thinks Dorothy’s hot, at long last.
Next phase is hooking up Julia Gray and Doris while still vehemently denying that they are based on anyone.
I mean the strip submissions are due today (as in, the in-universe “today”) so I get the distinct feeling that if it’s happening it’s gonna happen soon.
I… think that the “him” Sarah’s referring to here is Jacob?
I mean, let’s face it, it would be the one thing that would GUARANTEE Daisy would pick her strip over Walky’s.
I doubt that. Sarah didn’t know Joyce already knew Liz, so I doubt Liz has visited prior to this while Joyce and Jacob were in School.
On my first reading, I thought this was Jacob, and they were talking in hypotheticals because Liz had heard about Jacob. On rereading, it does sound more like a Past Incident we know nothing about.
Technically, Joyce only said that Dorothy was single.
>.>
But the subject under discussion was friends who were hot.
“Objection! Your honor, the topic of conversation is irrelevant. My client clearly stated that the woman was single, not that she was hot. Any further speculation on her intended meaning in mere hearsay.”
Many people tend to answer to only the last part of any question
Julia will confess her feelings to Doris but while she will reciprocate them she will instead leave her forever to engage in president training on the Moon.
Or Joyce just switched search parameters from hot=true to single=true without union/concatenation.
And Joyce also deliberately omits Joe, and hasn’t admitted to herself exactly why.
Because Joe and Joyce are only shallow acquaintances and not close friends worth listing. /sarcasm
Oh dear, that’s… not ideal.
IIIIIIIIIIInteresting choice.
Do people really get hotter after summer break?
Pretty sure it’s winter break, in this case.
Typically, they get colder after winter break.
It’s summer somewhere
In the southern hemisphere.
Oh, I meant on the sun, but yours is also technically true
Summers and Santa don’t look like they mix, but it sure does.
But not right after winter break.
… also, technically speaking, I think the sun is one of only two spherical bodies in the solar system that DON’T experience summer.
(MAYBE you can argue that the other one does experience summer, but it’s such a minor difference that no, it doesn’t. And I’m not covering the non-spherical bodies because I don’t care to track down a table of axial tilts for every last comet and asteroid.)
*reads facts*
ooooh you mean Mercury because it’s always facing the sun at the same angle? —wait you’ve actually checked the axial tilts of all of the moons in the solar system???
Not all of them. Just the ones with sufficient gravity to become nearly-spherical. Small ones like Phobos and Demos don’t count.
Erm, and not directly. Looked up the facts. Didn’t confirm with a telescope.
that will be acceptable.
And here I would argue that aside from the sun, they all experience _summer_, but not necessarily seasonal variation that is meaningfully distinguishable from the day/night cycle. Another question is if there are two periods (overlapping) for moons, especialy Jupiter’s, since they get energy radiated at them from both Sol and Jove. For those that don’t understand yet, the wikipedia article has a great animation showing axial tilt.
Finally, and totally unrelated, I wanted to draw attention to my contribution to yesterday’s musical earworm debate.
okay i sprained my brain trying to visualize a moon being tilted relative to its orbit around the sun, and under what that means for its seasonality depending on its speed of rotation, forget i brought this up i hate it now. (i was gonna joke that Mercury’s axis is decidely orthogonal to its orbit or whatever but i’m too exhausted now, please, assemble your own joke; thank you)
re: earworms: heheh =) i think something like that happens in Animorphs also, as i recall from the dozen or so books i read in the span of a couple weeks when i was circa 12 years old.
A quick search does turn up this:
“””Jupiter spins nearly upright so that the planet, as well as Europa and Jupiter’s other dozens of moons, do not have seasons as extreme as other planets do.”””
So, cool, but kinda boring from a potential multi-periodic seasonal weather cycle analysis perspective.
A moon’s path around the sun is basically its planet’s path around the sun, with a tiny bit of wobble added that doesn’t change much about its summers and winters.
wait, but… ok, but… since moons rotate around their planet, wouldn’t their axis tilt back and forth relative to the sun at each rotation?
what am i missing here? could it be, and i am just spitballing, a basic understanding of astronomy?
oooook i think i get it now.
a body’s axis of rotation basically stays at the same angle to its orbital plane right? there’s no force that acts on the axis of rotation itself, there’s just two essentially independent movements: an object’s rotation on itself, like a top, and its orbit around a heavier object, like a hand twirling a slingshot. and so, logically enough, some tops happen to gyrate at a greater or lesser angle to the ellipsis the slingshot is describing around the hand.
ok don’t ask me why, but modelling it like this helps, somehow
(at least i think it does, unless i’m still getting it wrong)
thank you for your patience
Pretty much? If you’re switching in the word rotating (the object spinning in place) for revolving (the object twirling around something else) then that sounds correct. The key point is that the axes of revolution and rotation should be treated as independent.
And yes, the moons revolutions relative to the sun would wobble back and forth a bit due to their revolution around their planet. But it’s a pretty small factor. Taking the worst case as an illustration:
The largest known orbital distance for a moon in the solar system is Neptune’s moon Neso. At its most extreme, it’s over half an AU (distance from Earth to the sun) away from Neptune. It’s axis of revolution around Neptune is also severely inclined relative to Neptune’s orbit around the sun — about 45 degrees off (and also it’s rotating backwards, but that doesn’t matter here). If it were instead purely perpendicular to Neptune’s orbit, producing the maximum difference possible… then the angular distance between it and Neptune, seen from the sun, would at its most extreme, be less than .005 degrees. In other words, its path around the sun is basically Neptune’s path, plus a tiny bit of wobble that doesn’t matter much.
Erf, misread your reply, you WEREN’T mixing up rotation and revolution and had it pretty much right. (TECHNICALLY there are things where the axis of revolution has a long-term affect on the access of rotation, which is how we end up with tidally locked bodies like Luna and Mercury, but they’re not relevant to this conversation.)
thank you for your explanation!
A lot of this is redundant following the new comments, but to share what I’ve written anyways…
So planets orbit on their own ‘disk’ all generally close to the celestial disk from the sun’s equator or the center of angular momentum of the stellar system. This is called orbital inclination.
Moons also have an inclination compared to their parent planet. None of this however, affects their seasons. The seasons will be primarily affected by the axial tilt (spinning axis) of the planet or moon to the orbit around the sun. For the planet, their seasons are only affected by the this tilt, because this makes their poles face toward or away from the sun.
But my curiosity was about the moons specifically, because Jupiter is quite hot. As it turns out, three of the Galilean moons do have an axial tilt to their orbit around Jupiter, but it’s not huge. And since Jupiter is only tilted 3deg, there isn’t really a meaningful tilt.
However, should the moon’s oribtal inclination and/or axial tilt result in a significant shift from the parent planet’s orbit around the sun, that would induce solar seasons in the moon. Further, if the moon’s axial tilt is significantly deviated from it’s orbital inclination around a hot parent planet (like jupiter), that could presumably cause planetary induced seasons in the moon. And given the moon’s and planet’s respective orbits would probably be very different, could presumably produce a doubly-periodic season variation.
Lastly, to respond to a specific question here: “wouldn’t their axis tilt back and forth relative to the sun at each rotation?” No. The axis would wobble (as all spinning bodies do) but not because it’s orbiting around a planet.
thanks! that’s very clearly put.
Jupiter does emit some radiation, but it’s so tiny compared to what the Jovian moons get from the sun that it really shouldn’t count for things like seasons. A much bigger factor in how Jupiter warms its moons is tidal forces, which don’t much depend on which side is facing Jupiter at any moment.
“It’s weird, everyone keeps getting better looking all the time, almost as if we’re being drawn by an artist who has steadily refined his style over the course of many years. But that’s silly, and I’m an atheist now anyway.”
The end of DoA will be Joyce founding a new religion devoted to the Almighty Willis.
… I don’t think she’s ready to tithe via slipshine participation.
Huh, I would have gone Cartesian, and assumed DoA would end when Joyce proves god doesn’t exist. Just for shits and giggles.
I love how Dorothy is where Joyce’s mind immediately goes when asked “are any of your friends hot and/or single?”
I mean I think it went to Jacob first, then judging by Sarah’s reaction she decided she needed to change the subject
She still thought of Dorothy second, which is still a thing that happened that we need to talk and/or squee a little bit about
JOE Joe she was thinking about Joe
not Jacob
yesssss yes yus yup ha-yup dee-yup
:O
OMG FINALLY JOYCE SAYS IT
As a way to not say Joe. That’s really what this is about, Joyce is WAY more into Joe than she’d ever admit.
And now Liz is going to hook up with Joe, because we’re talking about Willis here.
Oooooooo backstory.
…. and I just realized that there’s little chance that, if Liz is anything other than straight, she’d have told Joyce prior to today. Her facebook is public- and stepmom-facing and she wasn’t yet out of the closet to Joyce about not being Christian.
Also, Joyce knows Dorothy’s straight, so she’s probably not taking the possibility seriously.
I’m sensing some history there.
Wait wait wait.
There’s no way Jacob would sleep with Sarah’s little sister… right?
Almost certain this happened in the past, maybe first year but probably high school, and the boy in question is probably not a character we’ve met.
I think the two options here are Liz hit on Sarah’s boyfriend (bad) or Sarah’s boyfriend cheated on her with her own sister (much worse)
Oooooh good catch!
Wait does that mean Sarah is currently dating Jacob???
Her relationship advice is “don’t” so I am gonna go out on a limb and say probably not.
Ah, right. Guess not then!
Also, Jacob is single, so the hot married person Sarah previously dated was not Jacob.
The read I had was that Liz tried to (and probably succeeded) at dating Sarah’s boyfriend, although she apparently didn’t know they were dating.
I’m not sure where you got the married part from.
There it is. I think Thag thought this thoroughly through.
Sarah was dating a non-Jacob dude. She *didn’t* tell her sister, because it seems her sister pilfering or fawning over boyfriends has been an issue, and it happened again anyways. “so you wouldn’t want to see him.”
ok. yes. yes. thank you. that makes very sense.
maybe i shouldn’t sleep-comment at (for me) 6 in the morning; maybe.
I think Sarah’s concept of dating is “at-most-once-a-year one-night-stand with candied beefcake”.
Another possibility: Sarah secretly pined after a guy and was absolutely without a doubt going to ask him on a date someday eventually once she built up the nerve. Before that time came, Liz (the more outgoing of the two) asked him out, inadvertently clamjamming Sarah.
my god. as an older sibling with a much more outgoing, 1 year younger sibling, my skin crawls to imagine something like that happening when i was in my late teens. i would have felt murderous.
We seem to be getting a lot of Joyce/Dorothy hints lately…
I mean, I ship it, but honestly they feel more like taunts than hints to me.
I hurt every time Joyce says shit when it should clearly be fuck.
She’s still working her way up to that.
she’s only unlocked one swear so far.
Two. She says “damn” now.
Is damn even a swear. I thought it was more like an exclamation.
You’re not supposed to say “damn” because that’s wanting to damn someone to Hell and that’s not allowed, as far as what the kids are told. (The adults, obviously, are not… consistent about this.)
“Damn” was very definitely on my prohibited-words list while I was growing up, though it’s not the one I looked up in the dictionary.
According to the scientist keeping tabs on her, it counts. It especially counts because Joyce was a fundie, which is why “hell” counts too and she’s actually up to at least three. https://www.dumbingofage.com/2015/comic/book-6/02-that-perfect-girl/pg/
@Rabbid, can you please include a link to the scientist’s Joyce Swears tracker? You seem to have it handy, but didn’t cite it during your reference to it. My own google-fu and lack of persistence failed me.
bam
to whomever maintains this i have two things to say,
1) you’re such a weirdo
2) i love you
judging by RR’s link though, they meant Dina =3
…it’s this guy John, whose grav is a grumpy side-eyeing cat.
there’s a wonderful conversation in this strip‘s comments as to what does or doesn’t count as an onscreen f-bomb.
John: you’re such a weirdo; i love you
Thanks @Milu and @John. I’m going to comment this as the Joh Campbell DoA Dumbing of Age F-Bomb counter
at ci-n.com/~jcampbel.
Because giving myself a ton of keywords to be able to look for it by is sexy. Maybe I’ll add an article in the wiki too, if someone has/does not beat me to it.
Really, It’s less about the word itself, than how it’s used. I mean, I had a grade 9 teacher have a snit over me saying “I screwed up”. So while people who are hinky about “the no-no words” seem to maintain lists, they all still cuss, just using tame obviously substituted words or their own expressions. It’s a joke. It’s all a joke, really.
Those lists usually (but not always) make the most sense when you’re dealing with little kids.
Those lists only make sense for little kids, because adults are a bunch of pretentious twats and dicks who pretend that some parts of language are innapropriate for children to learn. I do teach my kids the lists and how to use them, so that
1. They don’t get into unneccessary trouble with the aformentioned dicktwats.
2. When they need to pull’em out, they have the tools to fully express themselves.
And let me tell ya, I was rarely more shocked, or more proud, than when we were horsing around and I was half-stuffing my kid into his car-seat upside down and he (laughing all the while) yelled, in his adorable little kid voice, “FUCK YOU.” Because really, if you’re being stuffed into a car *against* your will, what better thing to yell. (he was coming willingly, but we were playing. I congratulated him on the correct use of the term and we chatted about it not being for the school yard).
Oh and yes, I also stopped stuffing him in upside down. So his usage was *very* effective.
Which brings us back to Joyce who has always made heavy use of the euphemistic swears, as opposed to some other characters who may use the so-called bad words, but don’t do so often.
Three. She said “cocksucking.”
I’m waiting for her to eventually break that barrier.
This is not good…
I know, right? Most of the time I don’t mind it, but bacon and eggs on separate plates? TERRORISM!
Oh, wait. You were probably talking about that last panel . . .
Actually both.
Why waste perfectly good, cooked yolk on a plate when you can pierce the egg and have the yolk flow over the bacon and toast…
Now I’m hungry and dinners 3 hours away
You have my sympathy.
I figured the eggs were scrambled.
TBH I doubt Joyce would be ok with runny yolks either lol
But if it’s scrambled, that means the yolk and the whites are touching.
Obviously Joyce gets her eggs hard-boiled and then carefully separates the whites and the yolks with a fork over the course of 45 minutes.
That’s how I eat hard boiled eggs!
I love scrambled eggs though. It’s all egg, it’s not two things touching. At least, that’s my gag reflex’s opinion.
Because getting yolk all over your bacon and toast is gross, probably.
Ew liquid yolk
That is…a correlation there Joyce.
Just throw Joe at her, Joyce.
Look at Joyce telling on herself.
Interesting.
And I can do eggs and bacon on the same plate. It’s ice cream and cake I cannot have share a plate. Wet crumbs, just, ugh.
What about ice cream cake?
Not that into icecream cake, really, but it irks me less because it’s supposed to be like that.
I am very much the opposite. Hate the consistency of ice cream cake, but ice cream is my favorite cake topping and vice versa. Igs perfect as long as the cake hasn’t absorbed too much, kinda like how cereal is best when not too soggy.
I don’t much care to mix the two. Get a good cake, scrape the stupid icing off unless you baked it yourself and so it never had any in the first place, have a nice tasty dessert. Then, some time later, have some delicious ice cream. Mixing the two just makes both taste and feel worse.
And yup, potential drama right on cue.
Are you crazy, Joyce?
Dorothy’s not single! She’s married to the “Life”!
Like, is that “Life” in general (obviating the need for ‘the’) or married to “The Life” specifucally? (presumably meaning one driven by political aspirations)
Yeah, “the Life” of one who holds Public Office.
Does Joyce know anyone who ISN’T hot?
I’ve sat here for 5 minutes trying to think of an answer to this question that begins with “yes”
Yes.
I mean, she’s met Faz a couple times.
Well, yes, but you haven’t seen Faz after the break.
I mean, I think so, but it’d be rude to get specific.
Toedad’s on ice.
Toedad had that moustache, though.
Which is also on ice.
Depends on taste and compliment preference. I would more likely refer to some such as Lucy as cute or pretty. I’ve never been much of a fan of the word ‘hot’ though to begin with so.
I would also generally put Dina in the ‘cute’ category.
“Cute/pretty” is definitely a subcategory of hot.
These three here are so hot they’re steaming!
Seriously, though, am I the only person who is noticing the detail of the steam — actually, the water vapor condensing in the cold outer air — coming from the characters’ mouths as they talk?
You are not the only one. Our artist has been doing this in all the outdoor winter strips, and it’s wonderful.
“Dorothy’s single.” Are we including her in the hot category too, Joyce? Did Liz just de-radicalize Joyce by asking about hot people?
Only the best for Liz
Wait it’s been so long I can’t remember, is Jacob still with Raidah?
Nope. Jacob broke up with Raidah after Joyce received empircal evidence about herself. “I’ve crossed too many boundaries with you today.”
He broke up with her. I think that while kissing Joyce was part of it, I think that whole storyline also kind of opened up to the knowledge that Raidah wasn’t what he wanted, either.
He kissed Joyce then broke up with Raidah because he realised he liked Joyce a lot but she also screwed up a lot so he didn’t want to be with her in a proper relationship and he didn’t want to be with Raidah knowing that he liked Joyce so much more.
Plus Radiah seemed to represent the kind of life he didn’t want but was being pressured into.
Or rather, was pressuring himself into to live up to his brother, who very much just wanted him to chill
Wait, so this whole thing was because Liz wanted a shot at Jacob?
Poor Willis, just didn’t have room to fit “but I’m working on it.” in that last speech bubble.
There’s a tragic story we don’t know between the two sister or did Liz see a picture of Walky and decided he had to be hers?
It seems like Liz stole Sarah’s boyfriend in the past and that’s why Sarah isn’t pleased to see her. Probably also explains why Sarah is so cynical.
All of her friends abandoning her freshman year would also make her cynical.
Ok this prediction is an absolute shot in the dark, but screw it, these are fun to make.
Sarah is bitter after Liz stole her boyfriend. Liz sets her sights on Walky. We finally get the Lucy-Sarah team-up we always knew we wanted. Meanwhile, Walky and Joyce get caught up in whatever comic strip shenanigans idk. Crazy shit happens, somebody gets laid probably, Lucy and Sarah get closer, and Walky realizes that the real JAWsome was the friends he made along the way.
I… kind of ship it?
who?
Never mind. I meand Joyce and Liz, but after the last couple of strips I’m not so sure any more
… You’ll note that Liz still hasn’t said “and single”. I think Joe is probably the most at risk. Jacob probably wouldn’t A. have a fling at all, and B. wouldn’t have a fling with Sarah’s sister. Joe is probably most at risk of making a bad choice (alienating Joyce).
Joyce clearly didn’t know the bad blood between Liz and Sarah when she became Facebook friends. I wonder how that will change things.
That’s not something I had thought of, but now that I am… If Joe came into the picture and Liz was interested, that might be incentive for Joyce to finally fully realize what her feelings are for Joe and admit them, as Joe absolutely knows how he feels about Joyce. On the other hand, if Joe does reciprocate with Liz, this might push Joyce into the hands of Dorothy, which is very good too. A win either way! Let’s get Joe in here!
DoA Book 12: Dorothy’s single.
DoA Book 12: College Happened
Or maybe: Shit Yeah!
When I was younger I used to not like having the different foods on my plate touching each other. Now I’m not so bothered by that, but I still don’t like the texture and taste of most vegetables. I doubt my picky eater tendencies will ever fully go away.
I feel you.
I remember the day when I was perhaps seven, I told my Dad he didn’t have to spoon the meat/sauce item on its own spot on the plate, but I would try it on the egg noodles.
(However, as a person who has a lot of German and Irish ancestry on both sides, I have yet to develop a taste for regular potatoes–baked, mashed, boiled.)
To be fair, from that background, potatoes were foreign food that was imported because it grew well.
I mean, it was foreign food hundreds of years ago. It’s been well integrated into the cuisine long ago.
Hey, I’m backin kid Valdy’s food preferences over here! We don’t need your facts, just mine see.
I find Liz’ look in panel four particularly captivating.
Given the last panel: Somewhere Becky has the sudden urge to scream in frustration.
I really love how ‘All Grown Up’ Liz is, it makes her seem younger than Joyce, even tho I think, both being freshmen, they’re the same age?
“All Grown Up” in terms of personality (emphasis on the quotation marks), or like she’s a character from that Nickelodeon show? Because I can see both, tbh.
weird how she refused to mention Joe
Joyce just says that and is gonna move on, huh??
OK, so I just want to point out that one can be a zero or seven on the Kinsey scale and still be able to subjectively evaluate the attractiveness of an idividual not in their “want to fuck” attractiveness region. I mean, I’m all for Joyce jumping Joe, Dorothy, or whoever. I’m just saying her identifying someone as being ‘hot'[1] doesn’t mean she wants to fuck them. (not necessarily)
[1] and n.b. as already said, Joyce may just be meaning Dotty is single. She may have skipped from ‘hot’ to ‘single’ as the categorization filter, and may (despite her openness) still be automatically answering with an available female to try and neutralize the obvious hostility happening between Sarah and her sister.
Liz. Just writing it to try and remember.
As usual, watching Joyce grow is exactly like watching myself at the same age… except I learned that the reason men and women were of equal attractiveness to me was because I’m asexual. Still, I love my little cartoon doppelganger forever. And I’m glad she’s making the right decisions. <3
(I know she's an autobiographical character… it's just that she is also 100% exactly like me in every way. Or maybe I am (was) like her.)
I can vibe with Liz x Dorothy.
However, the real ot3 would be Liz/Dorothy/Joyce.
So….
Sarah’s mad that her sister went after a guy she was dating, after she came to her and verify that they weren’t together?
Like, I understand the emotions, but blaming her is kinda…. childish.
If she did it just to discourage her from perusing him, it suggests terrible things about her sister.
It suggests she THINKS terrible things about her sister.
And yet Sarah up to now, has had pretty sound reasons for what she does So I’m waiting to find out why she started thinking that way.
The wording suggests Liz was only interested because he was “taken”… otherwise, she would ignore him