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Barb O. Saur 
[AmericanChopperMemePanel5.jpg] WHAT DID I JUST SAY
SIX, holy dang D=
Happy birthday to the twins!
Yes, do it. Otherwise, soggy may rule
NO!
**hits deck**
I still don’t believe Liz actually had a ride. She’s walking back to Ball State.
She’s trying to escape the range of Dina’s power
Can’t be that far a walk anyways.
Only about 110 miles. That’s 10 miles shorter than the car route!
Touching the secondary sexual characteristics?
The hell is that a metaphor for?
Titties
This topic is pretty debatable but for my two cents I do think Joe got to second base. Liz’s state of undress implies there was at least a little bit of action before she got nervous.
But what makes ’em secondary sexual characteristics?
These characteristics are particularly evident in the sexually dimorphic phenotypic traits that distinguish the sexes of a species,[3] but unlike the sex organs (primary sex characteristics), are not directly part of the reproductive system.
[…]
In humans, visible secondary sex characteristics include pubic hair, enlarged breasts and widened hips of females, and facial hair and Adam’s apples on males.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_sex_characteristic
Oh it’s legitimately a question, not her saying something to dodge the obvious question.
*the more you know rainbow*
*Cues up the showtunes* Tits and aa~ass!
Today I learned that “secondary sexual characteristics” is a scientific term
Kind of a necessary thing to have, since sexual dimorphism can vary pretty wildly across species.
Like the lipstick on female Wobuffets!
Wait, why is pubic hair on women a secondary sex characteristic, but not on men?
I’m pretty sure it’s a secondary characteristic for humans in general.
Yeah, that’s badly phrased in the wiki article. It’s a broad term and it covers both characteristics that distinguish between the sexes and those that develop with puberty.
The Oxford Comma strikes again!
Secondary sexual characteristics are sexually dimorphic traits that are not primary sexual characteristics (which are the reproductive bits)
It’s different depending on what species you’re looking at. For example, the mane of a male lion is a secondary sexual characteristic.
Puberty makes them SSCs.
In the terminology of biological science, secondary sex characteristics are those that develop after/during puberty. It’s not a metaphor, Dina is being clinical and using formal language as she usually does.
Ding ding ding!
“Did you touch her chest”
*Erin Brockovitch voice* They’re called boobs, Ed.
It’s not a metaphor at all, Dina’s guessing Joe touched Liz’s chest.
Obviously the sexiest part of a woman is her mind. So y’know the secondary part has to be her chest. Y’know.
The Heart.
The mind…
You said it, not me.
Euphemisms aren’t metaphors.
Yes, it turns out I was just ignorant.
And technicalisms aren’t euphemisms.
There is some overlap there! But technicalism seems more accurate, and I probably would have used it if I knew/remembered it
Yes. The really funny thing is that most of the English and ISV technicalisms for human’s naughty bits aren’t actually the basic Latin words for those things, they are mealy-mouthed Latin euphemisms.
There is an interesting article in Wikipedia about the actual (i.e. obscene) Latin words for the assorted unmentionable bits and acts.
Read, mark, learn, and inwardly digest.
COOL! Thanks mate. TI(shall)L’d.
“Did you not grope those honkers, as the vernacular usually goes?”
Yoto you continue to entertain me on the regular.
“You in fact did not, squeeze those melons, smush those sweater puppies, Ponder those orbs, grab her chesticles, or descend down into marshmallow hell?”
I’m gonna start headcannoning that Dina’s just a gal who finds boobs super neat.Why do they call it “marshmallow hell”?
Wait is ponder the orbs a euphemism people actually use? Asking for an autistic ace … Who is me.
Well a quick search says it’s a meme that’s like a day old, so no not a lot of people use it. I think.
I’ve definitely seen the meme about wizards and orbs but I never thought it had anything to do with boobs.
I literally just made it up.
I still can’t get wrap my marshmallow around the head thing.
I mean my head around the marshmallow thing.
Wasn’t “Marshmallow” the name of a stripper from Bob’s Burgers?
Marshmallow hell is an anime term usually referring to when a characters has their head fully immersed in someone’s breasts. Marshmallow because of the softness of boobs, and Hell because they probably can’t breathe in there.
Man I wanna go to marshmallow hell.Hey if that’s what you call marshmallow hell, than what do you call a smore?
Marshmallow, in the Burgerverse, is not an exotic dancer , but I think a courtesan (also, correct as necessary) (using certain words from my work computer).
“Why do they call you Marshmallow?”
“Because if I see a sweet potato pie, I am all over it!”
I’m relieved I haven’t been missing the point of all the weird orb pondering tweets all week lol
I totally feel you on that one bruh, only for Willis’s bonus comics. I’m actually not that much into memes.
Well, canon seems to be that she and Becky haven’t done anything with the primary sex charactistics, so there has to be _something_ that attracts her physically, I’d think.
No, why? Dina is in love. That doesn’t require any sexual attraction.
Now try explaining that to Becky.
Doesn’t everyone like boobs?
It’s not a metaphor. Secondary sexual characteristics are those things that evolve during puberty. Like, stuff that is not exactly necessary for reproduction but makes you look male or female. In this setting, her breast and maybe her behind.
Honestly I am intrigued on how many of you didn’t know what “secondary sex characteristics” mean.
Well, a lot of people forget what they learn in school anyway, but I don’t think biology is often well taught in American schools.
I don’t think it’s that commonly known? I certainly wouldn’t have known it if I didn’t have an interest in natural history and biology.
As for those subjects, would you care to share some of your favorite sources?
I mean SAUCES?
I learned it in school, it was in the books and everything. But that wasn’t in the US.
I also learned it in school. In elementary school. It was in the textbooks and everything. In the US. In the southern US, no less. And we suck at educating kids down here.
The only Sex Ed I had was in DoD schools outside of the US. During the 1970s so it was scientific about the process of pregnancy, and silent on the bits about relationships. And naturally LGBTQ did not exist in that education.
same. i live in France. i wouldn’t say biology was “well taught” to me, but i def learned about puberty and reproduction fairly early on (i want to say it in 7-8th grade. i also remember having sex ed one time in 8th grade, in a catholic school no less, and while i forget the detail i do remember we were explained how to put on a condom, so while that’s a low bar, it still beats pro-life, abstinence-only “””sex ed””” as i understand many american kids are still subjected to.)
hah, actually now i remember our biology teacher showing us a graphic video of a person giving birth in…was it 6th grade? maybe 7th. we were all pretty yucked out and there were rumours of kids fainting in other classes (probably not true, but it was pretty intense). i liked that teacher, she was hard-boiled. i guess she was like, “miracle of life my ass, this is what we’re talking about, kids, okay? now, this is what a condom looks like…”
I went to Catholic school in Missouri. We had a decent sex ed. Probably not the best, and not the worst. Condoms were explained to us, I don’t recall if they were shown to us. Though they did emphasize the failure rates of different forms of birth control. In reality my Catholic education was fairly liberal. The hard core Catholics joined the Pro-Life Club.
It seems like a basic thing to know to me, but everyone has their gaps in knowledge.
not so much “intrigued” as “surprised and dismayed”. but I guess I shouldn’t be, with education being what it is.
That’s a good question.
How long after you’re told to hold something do you just…. own it?
A friend loaned me pokemon battle revolution in high school. I offered it back to him and he said I could keep it for as long as I kept playing it. It’s like 13 years later now and honestly even if I wanted to give it back I don’t know where he lives. And I doubt he’d want a WII game in the year of our lord 2021. So yeah, I own it now.
But are you still playing it?
I am not :c.
According to Skyrim rules, and the random encounter where a suspicious person approaches and demands you hold onto an item for him? Forever. You never get to own an item lent/handed to you, and if you don’t or can’t return it to its rightful owner on demand, you will face an immediate attack….
According to Skyrim rules nobody will notice if you drive an arrow into someone’s skull so long as you bend your knees. Also if you a fine the price of a new horse, this clears you of all legal consequences for murder.
I assume this is all frighteningly realistic
Technically, eating something *is* holding on to it.
Are you familiar with the expression “used food”?
My point being that you don’t hold on to it for very long, with the arguable exception of whatever nutrients you are able to absorb from it (even those go eventually).
Eh, “social cues” like that are a confusing-ass guessing game anyway.
Also Willis, tell your kids I said Happy Birthday!
Soggy Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
SOGGY. CINNAMON. TOAST. CRUNCH?
No. NO. Willis, you’ve gone too far. You’ve put your characters through every horrible ordeal known to man, but I will not stand by soggy Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Damn you, Willis. What were you thinking, putting Walky through such a horrible, traumatizing nightmare?
Unsubscribed.
Soggies may rule.
*drops eyeglasses momentarily*
It’s CRUNCH time!
Do you want Soggies? BECAUSE THIS IS HOW YOU GET SOGGIES.
Noooo! Not the soggies!
(Autocorrect first typed piggies. Then doggies. Autocorrect doesn’t do cereal.)
If you put your cereal in a liquid, then you clearly want it to absorb some of the liquid; otherwise WHY are you doing it?!?
so it isn’t just dry-ass cereal
unless you warm it up first
sometimes I just have a bowl of dry cereal with a cup of milk to drink on the side, the freak I am
This is the way.
So you can have crunchy texture with your cold soup.
Some of the liquid certainly. Too much though makes it gross.
Wait, before you go… Was she a tad [shoe shine | ethnically of decent from Poland]? The cover is rather obtuse to my query.
To be fiar, I would be super sad about not getting to touch Liz’s secondary sexual characteristics. Not so much her primary ones but those secondary ones, hooboy.
… if one knows the technique, has the right partner, and is very patient, there are some very interesting things that can be done while only touching secondary sexual characteristics.
I guess I’ll have to start my training arc.
Does that include the notion that some can orgasm just from nipple play? Is that true at all?
If it’s true I really want to try it!
I just really like boobs guysIt’s true. Applies to a non-zero number of persons.
Yes, I can confirm it is true. Not very common however.
Some women orgasm during nursing, so yeah.
Walkys a better person than me cause the second a conversation happened I would have put the bowl down near them and went about my own business.
I agreed to hold a cereal bowl for some shenanigans, NOT a whole emotional growth moment.
OK the algorithm has been on point with the random avatars lately!
Hurray for Chase and Zach! May there be abundant balloons, macaroons, trained baboons, and Looney Tunes for you.
Barring that, may there be robots!
… Okay, they’re Williskin, obviously there will be robots.
Happy Birthday Kids!
Here’s a joke about boobies! (for when you’re older)
Here’s another joke about boobies.
Those are a nice pair of boobies.
– Come touch my boobies! They don’t bite!
– 9_9
So… spinoff of Liz realizing oh holy shit she is DEFINITELY bisexual when?
Would you settle for some pixel art?
I won’t turn it down.
Happy kids birthday!
I wish a very happy birthday to the Willis/Sunshine spawn, and a pleasant and peaceful day to their parents!
Congrats on being a parent to 6 year olds!
Poor Walky. Soggy cereal is the worst.
That is the real point of this strip right?
And happy birthday to your boys, Willis and Maggie! I hope all goes well.
Jesus, I’ve been reading DOA for six years huh? I only caught up a little before the mini Willises joined the scene.
are you kidding me? I could have sworn your kids were born last year, two years ago tops haha
I would have sworn it was sometime last semester.
I know, right? In my mind they were just crawling around.
I started reading DOA when I was “home with the baby,” and now my kid has gotten halfway through middle school. Oy. THAT went by fast.
Willis, Happy Birthing Day to your wife!
now I want cinnamon toast crunch
All I have is Apple jacks…
Am I a traitor if I like Apple Jacks better than Cinnamon Toast Crunch?
I don’t see why. Applejacks are just Fruit Loops with cinnamon on them, so…
Apple Jacks are delicious! Just hit different than cinnamon toast crunch
I think I’d prefer the Apple Jacks.
I remember cereal. It was an early casualty when I became a grown-up; not because I started eating healthier or anything, but because I couldn’t be arsed to make breakfast, or get up early enough to make and eat it.
When I became a grown-up, caring about what time of day I ate certain foods plummeted, and it wasn’t very high to begin with.
yeah cereal for dinner is a common meal for me
I am an adult and no one can stop me
Happy Birthday Willis Twins!
This burgeoning Joe/Dina friendship RULES.
Thumbs up emoji.
So is Liz…Mad now or…
I’m going to say “confused”
I do not know why she would be mad.
Granted she was no longer smiling when she left. Maybe the dina description of sex made her uncomfortable. Or maybe she had some jealousy over joes reaction to dina. (She doesn’t want sex herself but she probably would have had an ego boost if she excited joe THAT much.)
I think Liz is uncomfortable with everything that happened from the instant Sarah opened her dorm room door.
yaay happy your kids’s birtyday
Yes!
I remember that comic with the belly button indicator
DING
Baby’s done!
The “It’s Walky!” spinoff “It’s Pregnancy!”
“s..stop breathing on my ear…”
“Yield first”
“I’m not seduct…s…subducted…subdued yet!”
“Your body does not lie…”
Dina is very strong
Walky Witnessing that is perfect imo. Hopefully we get to Joe’s self loathing before 2024 IRL.
That might be more like 2034, you know around the spring mid-terms.
please please PLEASE have this turn into an actual conversation about Joe’s feelings, that would be the best way this could go
I wonder which will happen first: Walky eating said cereal with traces of Dina’s saliva or Dina getting off Joe?
It definitely won’t be Dina getting off on Joe.
I dunno, put him in a dino pajamas and she might just be tempted.
My bet is on Walky eating the cereal.
Yeah she isn’t getting that back
I want _my_ cereal, but the house is cold and it’s do far away.
time flies, the children is already six?
Congratulations for them
Happy birthday kids!! I remember when my youngest one was six Walky was pestering Billie about his newly-found sexual prowess, so that was last term. Time flies. Indeed, it flies faster with timeskips.
Also: DoA Book 12 – Liz Out!
So, way down here at the bottom, as of right now anyway, I have a (legit) question.
I understand what primary sex characteristics are.
I understand what secondary sex characteristics are.
Is there any (scientific) name for those things that are erogenous, but neither primary or secondary?
OK, what am I referring to, you ask? I know, or have known, more than one female type person who would achieve orgasm from nothing more than kissing/stroking/sucking/etc on various part of their bodies, not part of the primary or secondary ‘characteristics’. (i.e. neck, inside the elbows, tummy, inside the knees, toes (don’t hate, it’s a thing)…)
and no, I am not talking about faked orgasms, but for real ones, with bodily function reactions related to actual sexual orgasms.
I’m no doctor or sexual therapist, but based on my experiences in BDSM and alt-sexuality circles, I’m inclined to think that it’s a combination of the brain’s vital role in sexual arousal and training the body to associate different sensations with pleasure (which in turn lead to orgasm). I have observed that it seems to be more difficult for males to achieve this than females (as you mentioned, I know a fair few women who can achieve genuine orgasm from a number of unusual sources), although I am unsure if that’s just because culturally and in sexual play a lot of it ultimately does tend to come back to (and involve) the penis, so there’s less opportunity for the kind of “mental re-training” that I mentioned.
Huh, just yesterday I watched a little documentary about Ian Fleming and apparently he had a real thing for violent sex which might have been caused by him being in a school where they were really enthusiastic about corporal punishment when he was young…
Sounds like synesthesia to me.
Nah, “synesthesia” is a condition some people have where when their senses are being processed, they also get processed as other senses. For instance, those with synesthesia might “hear color” or “see taste” or “smell music”. This phenomenon can also be experienced on some kinds of drugs, although it is still very rare and generally non-reproducable.
Also, to answer Chris’s original question, I think you already have the word.
They’re called “erogenous zones” or “erogenous organs”. (Can confirm, took a university course about it)
i think you may be misunderstanding what the “sex” in “secondary sex characteristiscs” means.
Those traits are sexual in that they signal reproductive capability, and are typically sex-specific (although not always like pubic and armpit hair). So for instance the adam’s apple is a male secondary sexual characteristic, while the widening of the hips is a female one but neither of these constitues an “erogenous zone” necessarily.
but to your specific question, i don’t know =)
(i will say that the observation that different people are aroused by stimulation to different parts of their body isn’t especially salient to me? Personally getting my ears licked and breathed into will just about send me. Anyway, the brain is the main erogenous zone as they say. you know that’s true if you’ve ever had a wet dream)
> “Personally getting my ears licked and breathed into will just about send me”
Noted
i appreciate that you zeroed in on the important part of my comment ^^
the window-dressing i will go to when what i really want is to be a good old thirsty horndog. i mean a bad dog. rrrawr.
“the brain is the main erogenous zone as they say. You know that’s true if you’ve ever had a wet dream”
Very true, but unfortunately, I don’t think I’ve ever had a wet dream myself
Anyone have any tips on how to increase the likelihood of having one?
well as a penis-ed person, it’s happened to me when i go a whiles without voluntarily ejaculating. i imagine there’s a mechanical explanation, like sperm production being continuous there comes a point when the excess gets discharged, though it is funny that in my experience the few times it’s happened it was always accompanied by some sort of sex dream. So idk, do sex dreams happen regularly but only trigger a sleep ejaculation when one’s balls are especially crammed? or is it the other way around, and there’s some sort of hormone that lets the brain know it’s time to cue up that special sort of dream?
But yeah it does take a while, maybe three weeks or more. and the dreams i’ve had were not especially pleasant, but that’s just me probably. One thing is constant though, those dreams really seem very short. Apparently when my subconscious brain is at the wheel, it knows how to get me from zero to
in literal seconds. And it happens entirely hands-free of course. I tend to remember the dreams fairly well because i always wake up (in a bit of a panic, i might say, because before i realize what happened, all i know is that some fluid has just escaped my body while in bed. i know i was just having a sex dream, not a wanting-to-pee dream but the old panic flares up just the same. I don’t even have time to enjoy it. in fact i wouldn’t count it as an orgasm at all. So it’s not a very pleasant experience for me. Then again it’s only happened at times when my libido was absolutely switched off, which is why i wasn’t coming in the first place. so. idk.)
that’s my anecdotal 2 cents on this weird thing my body does! can’t say i understand wanting to have one, but it is a kind of interesting thing that happens sometimes.
This is cute. Dina has understood what happened, but she has not really understood why Joe was sad and she wants to knows.
Liz is never leaving, isn’t she?
She lives at the chairs’ area now.
So is Joe gonna actually talk about his shame with Dina or not? I kinda hope so but I feel like it could go either way at this point.
Translation: “You get at dem tiddies or what”
Happy birthday to the Willis twins!
Seconded! Hoping for a side comic the day @damnyouwillis goes to their third grade class to talk about his work
Happy Twinsday!! (the best thing about being parents of twins is that you can race ’em)
This would have been useless in Galileo’s tests for confirming uniform acceleration due to gravity.
Good morning to you,
Happy birthday to you,
Hap-py BIRTH-day dear Willis’s’ses’s kids!
Happy Burthday to you!
“As we have established, you have been subdued.” This is my new mantra. It will be my go to statement from now on. I predict my wife will be tired of this new mantra in 10…9…8…7…
Don’t know where else to send this, but I can’t get the comics in the archive to load starting May 16, 2011.
the entire site was down for a few hours apparently, including this page. there’s nearly 6 hours between your comment and the latest one before that.
Yeah, it was down for a while and IW! reruns had a weird issue with comments in moderation.
I choose to believe it was the price required for 9 Chickweed Lane to finally get pulled from the LA Times and possibly cancelled by syndication for using slurs, which might finally end Willis’s hatetweet threads on Twitter.
Required?
You think that Willis is doing some Equivalent Exchange Alchemical Transmutation to pull this off?
If so, that’d actually be kind of cool…
And she didn’t even have to strike him with the flat of a blade.
Just as well. If Dina draws steel, she is honor-bound to draw blood.
aw, happy birthday to david’s kids! hopefully they’re eating better than soggy cinnamon toast crunch. unless that’s their favourite
i got sarah i am so delighted
I love this series!
Happy birthday to your kids!
Happy birthday to the kids!
Mine has still a month left to be six.
You’re old.
Hey, autotext! Happy birth—WHUT????? 6????
Oh holy shit, I’d been delaying my coming back to this most excellent Comment Sections but yesterday’s strip and this one have me grinning too hard.
Dina is domming Joe and she doesn’t even need leather or nudity to subdue him. This is Dom Talk. “I know you sometimes deny the things you need, now say them out loud”. And Joe…
Joe is a brat.
Is that so? Then you’ve come back at the PERFECT time!!!
Hopefully you’ll stick around for Valentine’s Day. From what I’ve heard, it’s gonna get WILD!!!
*plays “Awake” on the Hacked Muzak*
Oh, I’d NEVER miss Valentine’s Day. It’s a whole tradition with Willis 8D Also it’s nice to see you again!
PS: What an excellent piece you’re performing, good sir! I take that you’ve started Stone Ocean as well?
Not yet, I usually wait for the dub to air on Toonami whenever I watch anime.
But from what I can deduce from the trailer, no kidding it’s gonna be OUT OF THIS WORLD!!!
Happy Birthday Children of Willis.
Honestly, i love this Joe/Dina duo, they’re very funny together. They bounce off each other really well. Although nothing will beat a Becky/Dina strip.
Joe+Dina friendship is turning out pretty sweet. I hope they get close! ^_^
How much closer than they get than they are in this strip LOL
Happy birthday!!!!
Dina’s expression in panel 3 is perfect.