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June 1, 2026

Double pissed

by David M Willis on February 10, 2023 at 12:01 am
  • 02 – Turning Saints Into the Sea
└ Tags: becky, dorothy

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    February 10, 2023 at 12:01 am | #

    “QUADRUPLE PISSED that Dina an’ me could be spite canoodlin’ RIGHT HELLA NOW in yer recently vacated space but YER STILL HERE”

    • Ana Chronistic
      Ana Chronistic
      February 10, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

      alt-text: GO FOR IT

      • Clif
        Clif
        February 10, 2023 at 1:55 am | #

        What they should go for is swapping roommates. Amber never gets off the computer to have a conversation, and with Ethnan, Danny, and Walky out of the picture, she has no social life to generate visitors, all of which would suit Sarah just fine. This would free up Dina to room with Becky and Joyce to room with Dorothy.

        What could possibly go wrong?

        • Ed Callahan
          Ed Callahan
          February 10, 2023 at 8:51 am | #

          Logically, nothing. The problem would be the huge hole in the premise of the strip.

        • Felian
          Felian
          February 10, 2023 at 10:41 am | #

          WOW. Assigning dorm rooms by GOOD MATCHES rather than by randomization? Wild take.
          Although i am not advocating for u-hauls so i think it IS better if Dina and Becky do not live together. Plus, Dina needs a lot of alone time, so it’d be detrimental for her to live with bubbly Becky instead of Amber who basically constitutes alone time. So…. actually i think Dina and Amber ARE a good roomie match.
          But, Becky, i’m sure Dorothy is happy to vacate the room more often so you can canoodle. After all, Dorothy can go to the laundry room in that time 😛

        • Oz
          Oz
          February 10, 2023 at 12:19 pm | #

          I would love to see Amber/Sarah roomate dynamics, but Joyce rooming with Dorothy gives me the shivers. Either they would both go completely feral or they would go full-mom-friend on each other and then so many shenanigans would ensue that they both would end up expelled. Joyce and Dorothy’s relationship is too powerful, it needs to be contained.

        • zee
          zee
          February 10, 2023 at 1:16 pm | #

          Dude that would actually be super content

    • UrsulaDavina
      UrsulaDavina
      February 10, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

      Qunitople pissed they’ll assign you a new roommate
      *unless that roommate is Dina

      • Doctor_Who
        Doctor_Who
        February 10, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

        It’s Mary.

        • Sajuuk-Khar
          Sajuuk-Khar
          February 10, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

          Sextuple pissed that she now gotta learn how to commit murder without vein’ caught, so she’s lost even more Dina-canoodling time to training (playing Hitman III for six hours a day)

          • Thag Simmons
            Thag Simmons
            February 10, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

            I don’t know if Agent 47’s methods would be particularly effective here.

            • Sajuuk-Khar
              Sajuuk-Khar
              February 10, 2023 at 12:23 am | #

              You say that now, but imagine if the next time she tries to set up her Hell House, Mary is tragically crushed by an improperly balanced animatronic Satan bought with “dark money” (asking Robin for a couple grand with big puppy dog eyes)

              • Thag Simmons
                Thag Simmons
                February 10, 2023 at 1:36 am | #

                Well he’s not the worst stealth game protagonist you could take influence from, a guy like Snake or Corvo would be way less instructive for this scenario.

                Unfortunately a lot of stealth games bias towards trying to take down army guys or rich guys, often both at the same time, rather than some random college student.

                • Xaeon
                  Xaeon
                  February 10, 2023 at 9:11 am | #

                  Yeah, but college students are way less suspicious. Buy a set of coveralls and you can probably go pretty much anywhere in the dorms without anyone batting an eye. At most you might have to say “I need to do an inspection”.

          • Dana
            Dana
            February 10, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

            If you murder in order to have premarital lesbian sex do the sins add up, or is it a more than the sum of its parts situation?

            • Slartibeast Button, BIA
              Slartibeast Button, BIA
              February 10, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

              Make it look like a suicide so you get A’s in all your courses!

              (No, that doesn’t actually work.)

              (Or so I am told.)

            • Sajuuk-Khar
              Sajuuk-Khar
              February 10, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

              Protestantism in general is bad at quantifying sins, you’re on this fuzzy meter of “hell” or “not hell”.

              This is why Becky should convert to Catholicism and then spin this as actually fine because it was in defense of the faith, so that clears up the murder, and the premarital sex you can probably do some Hail Marys for.

              • Jess
                Jess
                February 10, 2023 at 12:45 am | #

                There’s a joke here about Hail Marys and Mary being the “new”/”murdered” roommate…can’t quite put my finger on it though.

                • Sajuuk-Khar
                  Sajuuk-Khar
                  February 10, 2023 at 1:05 am | #

                  Newly Catholic Becky goes to confession and can’t stop snickering whenever she’s mandated said prayer, the priest is getting suspicious

                • Jamie
                  Jamie
                  February 10, 2023 at 1:17 am | #

                  Raining hail on Mary would please me.

                • Sajuuk-Khar
                  Sajuuk-Khar
                  February 10, 2023 at 2:11 am | #

                  The ultimate punchline is Newly Catholic Becky going “Sorry, Father, see, I knew Mary Bradford, and—“

                  “OH! Her! The girl we had to call the police to get her not to leave whole collections of those fucking Chick tracts all over the sanctuary and in the Eucharist and EVERYWHERE!”

                  “Yeah and I just keep thinkin’ hailing her is pretty much hailing Satan, ain’t?”

                  “You’re so right, my child. The snickering is a freebie, go forth and sin no more.”

              • Reltzik
                Reltzik
                February 10, 2023 at 7:10 am | #

                But at least in some corners of Protestantism, being with Dina isn’t actually a sin at all.

        • UrsulaDavina
          UrsulaDavina
          February 10, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

          I just threw up a little.

        • ValdVin
          ValdVin
          February 10, 2023 at 7:38 am | #

          We haven’t seen much about Mary as a roomie. But now I want to know if Meredith was a stoner before bunking with the floor’s biggest “Christianist”.

          • Liquid Len
            Liquid Len
            February 10, 2023 at 3:42 pm | #

            Wait, isn’t Mary’s roommate Roz?

            • ValdVin
              ValdVin
              February 12, 2023 at 3:01 pm | #

              Oops.

              That I don’t remember that suggests we haven’t seen much of her as a roomie.

      • Slartibeast Button, BIA
        Slartibeast Button, BIA
        February 10, 2023 at 12:26 am | #

        I was once goign to get a new random roommate, as was the guy next door who I knew and liked. So we arranged for me to move in to his room, which had better furnishings (lofts). Then he flunked out, leaving me in Becky’s dream housing situation. Sadly, I couldn’t manage the canoodling.

    • anon
      anon
      February 10, 2023 at 12:49 am | #

      “Fine i’ll just become president myself” i doubt becky has aspirations/ambitions that high but that would be amusing to see in the short term

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        February 10, 2023 at 2:02 am | #

        She has the soft skills for the job, at least.

      • Oz
        Oz
        February 10, 2023 at 12:20 pm | #

        pre-trauma dorothy would be motivated by that, current Dorothy would just go further into her self-loathing spiral.

      • GholaHalleck
        GholaHalleck
        February 10, 2023 at 1:24 pm | #

        A lesbian with an autistic ace-adjacent Asian wife, whose christian fundie father tried to murder her and all her friends?

        Easy slam dunk for at least senator, even with her current ties to a Republican.

    • foducool
      foducool
      February 10, 2023 at 9:31 am | #

      lmao she wouldn’t even wait for dorothy’s bed to be cold

  2. Caro
    Caro
    February 10, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    the past five or so strips have given us SO MANY GOOD EXPRESSIONS. im living

    • Caro
      Caro
      February 10, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

      becky panel five is literally a Papas Pizzeria protagonist upon showing up to work /pos /pos /pos /pos /pos

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        February 10, 2023 at 12:34 am | #

        There’s a neat idea — a Galasso’s Pizza and Subs restaurant sim. 🙂

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      February 10, 2023 at 12:39 pm | #

      I’m glad people figured it out. It’s so perfect.

  3. C.T. Phipps
    C.T. Phipps
    February 10, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    Dorothy: No, no, I’m sacrificing myself for you. Not because I want to stay with my friends and hate the idea of leaving you all to go hang with a bunch of strangers while studying constantly. I love that. Honest.

    • Slartibeast Button, BIA
      Slartibeast Button, BIA
      February 10, 2023 at 12:29 am | #

      Since Becky hasn’t lost her faith, she has already had all the self-sacrificing she needs, way back when.

  4. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    February 10, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    Are we drifting into New Math here?

  5. shrub
    shrub
    February 10, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    You want to keep a secret Dorothy, don’t tell anyone the secret in the first place.

    • John Campbell
      John Campbell
      February 10, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

      To be fair, she didn’t. Becky found out by herself.

      • shrub
        shrub
        February 10, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

        Not that secret, the secret as to why shes not going. Its an especially bad idea to tell Becky given her feelings towards Joyce.

        • Jamie
          Jamie
          February 10, 2023 at 1:19 am | #

          Yes. Compounding a lie when you get found out always ends well. Definitely.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          February 10, 2023 at 9:15 am | #

          Maybe she hasn’t?

  6. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    February 10, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    Dreams are for sleeping. We all gotta wake up some time, kid.

  7. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    February 10, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    At least Becky knows her priorities.

    • Sajuuk-Khar
      Sajuuk-Khar
      February 10, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

      She’s seen exactly one scene from any Witcher media, and it’s the one that involves doing it on a unicorn, and she’s like “man I am totally the lady-Geralt”.

      • Eldritchy
        Eldritchy
        February 10, 2023 at 3:29 am | #

        This just shows what a fake fan she is. If she read the books she’d knew she was Ciri who had a girlfriend.

  8. Suet
    Suet
    February 10, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    Can’t canoodle forever, yanno. Someone’s bound to move in

    Is being Amber and Joe step-siblings a worse thing?

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      February 10, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

      I actually got super lucky one year – my roommate dropped out to join the Air Force after a month and they never got around to giving me a new one.

      • Jess
        Jess
        February 10, 2023 at 12:36 am | #

        This almost happened to me. My roommate dropped out over winter holidays and I didn’t receive word that I’d been assigned a new one — but when I got back to my dorm someone else’s stuff was there too. I later found out that she was a newly arrived transfer student, and she’d asked for a last-minute room reassignment because the girl she’d originally been roomed with was messy as fuck. She eventually became my best friend on campus, which just goes to show you, I guess.

      • BarerMender
        BarerMender
        February 10, 2023 at 12:45 am | #

        I was such an intolerable roommate no one wanted to live with me. This worked at college and in the Air Force.

      • thakoru
        thakoru
        February 10, 2023 at 10:28 am | #

        I got a room to myself the second year of college by forgetting to apply for one until the last minute, so they didn’t have anyone to put me with. Procrastinating pays off once again! (Also, my RA called the room assignment a “dingle”, which is now one of my favorite words.)

  9. True Survivor
    True Survivor
    February 10, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    Why does Becky talk with a Southern style accent (though not to Sal extent) but Joyce doesn’t? Did Toe-dad have that accent, too? I don’t recall.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      February 10, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

      I don’t think it’s Southern like Sal’s, I think it’s just a lot less formal and more slang-y.

      Robin’s the same way.

      • True Survivor
        True Survivor
        February 10, 2023 at 12:26 am | #

        Thank you.

    • Masumi
      Masumi
      February 10, 2023 at 1:16 am | #

      .. Seems like I need to work on my mess.

      *strongly disliking having an office mate*

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      February 10, 2023 at 1:22 am | #

      I don’t feel like most Southern accents use “yer” very much. I feel like it’d be “you ain’t” rather than “yer not”. But I’m not an expert or anything.

      • Azhrei Vep
        Azhrei Vep
        February 10, 2023 at 8:42 am | #

        I am located in a fairly southern US-ly area, and ‘yer’ sees pretty common play here. Somethin like “Yer noggin like ow this ole mess ends, kid.” would be considered a perfectly normal way of saying “You’re not going to like how this whole mess ends, kid.”

    • thakoru
      thakoru
      February 10, 2023 at 10:21 am | #

      I’m pretty sure Becky is supposed to have a Midwestern accent. Which makes sense, because they’re in the Midwest.

  10. Alongcameaspider
    Alongcameaspider
    February 10, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    I’m 100% with Becky here, denying even a second of canoodlin with Dina is unforgivable

    Oh and all that other stuff too I guess

  11. Sajuuk-Khar
    Sajuuk-Khar
    February 10, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    “Dotty this is a stupid fuckin’ idea born outta hella trauma, an’ I know from trauma! I’m a trauma world champ! Fun fact: two outta the three things I’m claimin’ to be mad about are me doin’ a coping mechanism! I’m deflectin’, Dotty! And you’re making me acknowledge it out loud!”

    (also, that little “not to you” hurts extra, because like…Dorothy…you know that’s not how it works.)

    • StClair
      StClair
      February 10, 2023 at 3:40 am | #

      I’m not sure she does, or has admitted it to herself.

  12. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    February 10, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    Panel 2 Becky spitting straight FACTS

    And yeah, I’m really wondering how well Dorothy’s gonna keep this covered up, and whether Becky’s gonna play along with it.

  13. anonymsly
    anonymsly
    February 10, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    For nearly the first time ever from me: Go Becky! Your points are strong and valid, even the one about non-constant canoodling, and you’re making them ver clearly and unusually honestly.

  14. bagge
    bagge
    February 10, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    HUG HER!

  15. BBCC
    BBCC
    February 10, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    Dorothy, they’ll notice when you’re still here next semester.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      February 10, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

      The other characters don’t even know she got accepted, let along that she got accepted and turned it down.

      • BBCC
        BBCC
        February 11, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

        Yeah, but they’ll still know she has not gone to Yale and there will be questions on it.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      February 10, 2023 at 2:00 am | #

      That sounds like a problem for Future Dorothy to worry about.

  16. UrsulaDavina
    UrsulaDavina
    February 10, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

    Dotty stop trying to be president of the USA

    Move to Canada and become PM were you might actually be able to achieve your goals as long your party has a majority.

    • UrsulaDavina
      UrsulaDavina
      February 10, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

      An immigrant can become Prime Minister of Canada as long as they are appointed Party Leader and their Party wins and they aren’t in prison

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      February 10, 2023 at 12:20 am | #

      The obstacles preventing a President Keener would probably also prevent a Prime Minister Keener

      • DailyBrad
        DailyBrad
        February 10, 2023 at 12:28 am | #

        Yeah, Dorothy would have to do a whole lot of shit to help the First Nations people to maintain a clear conscience that she would not get enough support on.

      • UrsulaDavina
        UrsulaDavina
        February 10, 2023 at 12:29 am | #

        I don’t know if you’re a Canadian if so then you know the institutional power of the PM is tremendous if they have a majority.

        But I think Dotty would have an easier time of winning a ridding and working her way into Cabinet position or shadow cabinet position given that selectorate who determines party leadership is far smaller then those who determine who is governor a house member or senator.

        • Jamie
          Jamie
          February 10, 2023 at 1:29 am | #

          I mean, the problem is that Dorothy isn’t really well-suited to be the face of a party, which is kinda the core part of the Head of Government job. She’d do great on a cabinet, USian or Canadian, but that requires a mature understanding of how government works and a nuanced undestanding of your own goals, rather than the slogan-style “gotta get the top job!” ambition.

        • Thag Simmons
          Thag Simmons
          February 10, 2023 at 1:52 am | #

          I’m saying that the things Dorothy would struggle to do in order to be President are things she would still have to do if she wanted to be Prime Minister, and having to appeal to a smaller base of electors isn’t going to help with that.

          It would also create all new problems. It’s not illegal for an American to become prime minister of Canada, but I can’t really see it happening. After the 1900s, we’ve had one prime minister who wasn’t born in this country and he was raised her since the age of three (also only served 79 days)

          • Sajuuk-Khar
            Sajuuk-Khar
            February 10, 2023 at 2:19 am | #

            The simple solution here is for Dorothy and Ruth to swap bodies.

    • Eldritchy
      Eldritchy
      February 10, 2023 at 3:24 am | #

      Hey is doing blackface a requirement for being Canada’s PM?

      • Taffy
        Taffy
        February 10, 2023 at 5:30 am | #

        I double checked, and yes. It’s in the Bible.

    • zee
      zee
      February 10, 2023 at 1:27 pm | #

      Tbh dot would be better off as like a. Small Town Mayor or local union leader. A position where she wouldn’t necessarily hurt a shit ton of people (or commit war crimes the president) and might actually make a difference

  17. Sajuuk-Khar
    Sajuuk-Khar
    February 10, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

    Also, after multiple storylines about stupid mutual secret-keeping by Becky and Joyce like a pair of knuckleheads that gets resolved with a beautiful reaffirmation of friendship, now we got a storyline involving a horrible secret with actual stakes. Thanks Willis. Thillis.

  18. newlland(Henryvolt)
    newlland(Henryvolt)
    February 10, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

    Is there a thing such as being too selfless? Though I do appreciate knowing Dorothy’s principles and ideals aren’t outweighed by her ambitions and I hope it stays that way with her. But can you really get to the top being %100 clean?

    • shrub
      shrub
      February 10, 2023 at 12:23 am | #

      I guess to answer that you have to ask if you can think of any politician thats made it to the top thats 100% clean and what is clean when you get down to it

      Everyone (probably) has a view on the abortion debate but when the buck stops with you, when its your decision (as much as it can be) and history will judge you

      Or would Dorothy (at least this current version of Dorothy) be able to sign off going to war knowing the cost will be

    • anon
      anon
      February 10, 2023 at 1:09 am | #

      Being a people pleaser def has its downsides, other than being paid for it or actually being fulfilled helping your friends who can actually reciprocate instead of seeing you as someone convenient/useful to them, I imagine it’d be draining overall

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      February 10, 2023 at 1:31 am | #

      I don’t really think anyone makes it past the age of 18 100% clean.

      So… no.

      But that’s a terrible reason to stop trying.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        February 10, 2023 at 9:21 am | #

        Yeah, even with the Presidential job – wouldn’t we prefer someone with some morals left even if they’ve had to compromise, rather than leaving the job to those completely corrupt from the start?

  19. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    February 10, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

    Becky’s dreaming if she thinks the campus will just let her have a room to herself for long when/if Dorothy transfers. One moment you’re Dina diddling, the next moment you’ve been partnered with an even worse version of Mary.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      February 10, 2023 at 12:29 am | #

      I kind of doubt her sincerity on this part, like I think she’s just throwing that in as an emotional air cushion to maintain space.

    • anon
      anon
      February 10, 2023 at 1:03 am | #

      it might depend on how far into the year they’re in and if there’s a student who requested a room change if not a new student like booster (that said i’m sure they’d respect each other’s privacy and give becky and dina some time to themselves if they want to spend time together as a couple)

    • Swissaboo
      Swissaboo
      February 10, 2023 at 5:16 pm | #

      I knew a guy who’s roommate was supposed to have gotten a single and was finally switched out to where he was supposed to be in the first place within a week, and the replacement didn’t happen until the next quarter. Yeah that’s not forever but it’s also not a short amount of time either.

  20. Slartibeast Button, BIA
    Slartibeast Button, BIA
    February 10, 2023 at 12:23 am | #

    I had two roommates who did this, though I never managed the canoodling part.

  21. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    February 10, 2023 at 12:30 am | #

    This might be the strip with the highest concentration of freckles.

  22. StClair
    StClair
    February 10, 2023 at 12:31 am | #

    You’re not doing this ‘to’ Becky, Dorothy. Only to yourself.
    But more importantly, she’s right, you would have to do worse. Because it turns out that real politics is not anything like you imagined or hoped.

  23. Jess
    Jess
    February 10, 2023 at 12:42 am | #

    I’m glad Becky is raising these excellent points. A very important and even more difficult life lesson is that sometimes bad things happen to us just because — but we can always choose, albeit sometimes not to any great degree, how to respond and move forward. And that response can allow us to make something beautiful out of the bad.

    Poor Dorothy, though. She needs therapy and maybe to consider ways she can make a positive, widespread impact on the world without going into politics. As someone else said, “not to you” isn’t really how that works…

    • Jess
      Jess
      February 10, 2023 at 12:50 am | #

      And, of course, before you can do something beautiful you first have to figure out what fulfills those qualifications…conventional politics may or may not be it.

    • anon
      anon
      February 10, 2023 at 1:08 am | #

      it does seem like a huge opportunity but given what we’ve seen of her ‘perfectionism’, would she really last in yale? (tho i’m surprised more ppl don’t graduate from college with grey or at least salt and pepper hair, power of youth i suppose lol, i’d def be more aged at least)

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      February 10, 2023 at 1:32 am | #

      For the record, one of the unique things about Dorothy in this cast is that… she’s actually getting therapy.

  24. Wraithy2773
    Wraithy2773
    February 10, 2023 at 12:44 am | #

    I kinda get it. In a sense, it doesn’t matter what Becky’s *actually* feelings on this are to Dorothy, because she didn’t find out before resubmitting to Yale. She’s kicking herself less because she’s hurting Becky, and more that she didn’t consider how it would hurt Becky.

    It’s something that she should work past and get over, don’t get me wrong, but Becky saying that she’s happy everything helped Dorothy out doesn’t change that Dorothy did it without her permission.

    • anon
      anon
      February 10, 2023 at 1:23 am | #

      joyce would probably be the most upset but hopefully understanding in the end, but i don’t think anyone else along holding it against her to ‘move on up’

      (Indiana to yale is apparently 12 hours away, while tedious it wouldn’t be impossible to catch up on holidays and the occasional weekends if not just keeping in touch over the phone/vid calls, but we probably wouldn’t see up to that point anyways)

  25. BOOSTER SHOT
    BOOSTER SHOT
    February 10, 2023 at 12:44 am | #

    THIS. ARC. is quite good

  26. not someone else
    not someone else
    February 10, 2023 at 12:51 am | #

    Sorry Dorothy, you’ll never be Hillary Clinton if you can’t coup a few Latin American world leaders for corporate profits once in a while.

    • FO
      FO
      February 10, 2023 at 1:18 am | #

      ^ Boom!

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      February 10, 2023 at 1:56 am | #

      Or sell missiles to Iran and use the proceeds to fund terror organizations in Central America.

      • The Wellerman
        The Wellerman
        February 10, 2023 at 2:00 am | #

        Yeah, it’s best she stop before she’s in too deep. This line of work just isn’t for her. 🙁

        • Mark
          Mark
          February 10, 2023 at 7:19 am | #

          Well, she could scam one of the parties, get their nomination, win the election, round up and execute the leadership of all parties and the power brokers who enable them, and then be good.

          Admittedly, no one’s ever taken that last step, but there’s a first time for everything.

      • Eldritchy
        Eldritchy
        February 10, 2023 at 3:12 am | #

        Or blow up kids in Middle East with drones.

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        February 10, 2023 at 9:24 am | #

        Pretty sure Iran/Contra wasn’t Hillary.

        Not sure which Latin American coups they’re thinking of either, but that’s vaguer.

        • not someone else
          not someone else
          February 10, 2023 at 12:42 pm | #

          I recall Honduras and Nicaragua when she was Secretary of State, and I’m pretty sure there were others (though not necessarily all in Latin America).

          • thejeff
            thejeff
            February 10, 2023 at 2:50 pm | #

            Honduras I’ll give you, though it seems the only evidence is for blocking attempts to return Zelaya to power rather than support the coup beforehand.

            In Nicaragua, Daniel Ortega had been in power since before Obama’s term.

            • not someone else
              not someone else
              February 10, 2023 at 10:03 pm | #

              Thinking emoji. I’m gonna have to check on that one then, chances are good I got the country wrong. It’s been a while since I actually read up on the Obama administration lol.

    • darkgloomie
      darkgloomie
      February 10, 2023 at 3:47 am | #

      Hillary didn’t get to be president either, so that’s not much of a roadblock.

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      February 10, 2023 at 8:22 am | #

      THIS!
      FUCKING THIS!!

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      February 10, 2023 at 11:11 am | #

      That does seem to be one of the things our presidents do best. Along with a whole laundry list of other terrible things.

  27. Dr. T
    Dr. T
    February 10, 2023 at 1:18 am | #

    Did Becky think Dorothy was leaving mid-semester?

    • Sajuuk-Khar
      Sajuuk-Khar
      February 10, 2023 at 2:18 am | #

      You would think stupid things too if you potentially had a space for 24/7 Dina canoodling.

  28. Mandy
    Mandy
    February 10, 2023 at 1:24 am | #

    It’d be nice to see less “You’d have to do worse as President” and more acknowledgment that not wanting the most traumatic day of your life, and the fallout from it, as the launch point of your career is 100% valid, normal responce to said trauma.

    • StClair
      StClair
      February 10, 2023 at 2:25 am | #

      I think some of this response is because it’s been obvious for some time now to many of us, from our elevated perspective, that Dorothy does not have the actual qualifications for her chosen career, and is now, at long last, being confronted with strong evidence of this. It’s not (IMO) that anyone wants her to be traumatized, or to have a breakdown, except insofar as those are probably necessary steps in her becoming aware of and discarding her delusions, accepting reality, and setting more healthy and realistic goals suited to her actual talents, temperament, and moral character.

      • StClair
        StClair
        February 10, 2023 at 3:05 am | #

        (tl;dr we’ve been waiting years for her to Figure It Out Already.)

        • Sajuuk-Khar
          Sajuuk-Khar
          February 10, 2023 at 9:20 am | #

          Yeah, absolutely this, with a side order of…like, no one who’s bringing up at Dorothy isn’t cut out for modern American politics is saying that out of a deep and abiding admiration for the modern American political machine. This ain’t exactly “wow, Dorothy, you weakling, why can’t you be cool enough to climb to power on some dead bodies”?

      • Masumi
        Masumi
        February 10, 2023 at 6:29 am | #

        On the other hand, the very situation that traumatised her also demonstrated that she could be a really good leader in a difficult situation. If she can learn to deal with the fallout, that is.

      • Regina phalange
        Regina phalange
        February 10, 2023 at 9:58 am | #

        I mean, is it really THAT important for her to figure this out? She’s 18/19, and it’s not like she’s President or Bust. It’s not UNrealistic for her to be a Congressperson or Senator, and sure, it’ll be depressing when she realizes in 10-15 years that it will be impossible for her to advance to her dream job, but she’ll still be doing the basics of what she always wanted (even if she also has to confront the reality of being unable to effect substantial change—but she’d have to confront that as President too). Not to sound too corny, but I don’t see a problem with the 18-year-old naively shooting for the moon, as long as she sets up her shooting trajectory to land in the stars if she misses.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          February 10, 2023 at 11:16 am | #

          That’s kind of been my problem with Dorothy’s ambitions all along. They’ve be so focused on “President”, we’ve never seen her talk about what she’d like to do along the way.
          Even in the best case scenario, She’s going to have a decade or probably several in politics before getting into position to run. What are her ambitions for the time along the way? Seeing everything as just stepping stone to the real goal isn’t uncommon, but it’s not a good way to get there.

        • StClair
          StClair
          February 10, 2023 at 10:32 pm | #

          IMO, she probably is President or Bust, and has not and will not make any but the most perfunctory of plans for missing until she does (and the first couple of those are likely to be increasingly less-viable/more-desperate attempts to get “back on track”, like when she didn’t get into Yale on the first try).

  29. ESM
    ESM
    February 10, 2023 at 2:21 am | #

    This is just letting Becky’s Dad win

    • AlaninDC
      AlaninDC
      February 10, 2023 at 6:52 am | #

      Not that he’s in any position to celebrate his win, however…

  30. Eldritchy
    Eldritchy
    February 10, 2023 at 3:10 am | #

    That’s okay Becky, Dotty can just move to the laundry room and Everyone will be happy.

    • Sajuuk-Khar
      Sajuuk-Khar
      February 10, 2023 at 5:43 am | #

      OBECTION! We’ve just seen that the dryers there are nowhere near enough stimulation for a lust-crazed sex maniac like Dotty!

  31. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    February 10, 2023 at 3:47 am | #

    It’s ok Dotty, you have between 3 to 5 years comic time before people start wonder why you’re still here 😀

  32. Taffy
    Taffy
    February 10, 2023 at 5:15 am | #

    Dotty, you needle-dicked Orthrus worshipper. We just got closure on a boneheaded “Don’t tell Joyce” thing. Knock that off.

    • Sajuuk-Khar
      Sajuuk-Khar
      February 10, 2023 at 5:45 am | #

      Taffy, I cannot stand for this. While it may be true or not that Dorothy kneels at the shrine of the Hound of Geryon, there is absolutely no call to insult her dick.

      • Taffy
        Taffy
        February 10, 2023 at 10:40 am | #

        It’s not an insult, her dick is literally shaped like a needle and syringe, complete with a plunger and mysterious green liquid.

        • Sajuuk-Khar
          Sajuuk-Khar
          February 10, 2023 at 11:55 am | #

          Oh! Well, carry on, then.

  33. Masumi
    Masumi
    February 10, 2023 at 6:26 am | #

    It’s interesting how I would fully support Becky refusing to keep this secret, so that everyone can tell Dorothy that this is a dumb idea. But Dorothy just was keeping Beckys also dumb secret, so Becky can’t really do that very well.
    I think we need Carla to find out.

  34. KayBee
    KayBee
    February 10, 2023 at 7:18 am | #

    I understand the mental state Dorothy is in, but she should also consider that given her unique combination of experiences with criminal activity, mental health, religious fundamentalism and the consequences of them, the admissions office at Yale could be seeing her as bringing a valuable perspective to their school.

    • Laura
      Laura
      February 10, 2023 at 1:01 pm | #

      Or in a good position to crack under the strain of the academic pressure and the emotional weight of such an admission. (E.G.: “I can’t believe I didn’t get an ‘A’ on that test. Mike DIED for me! How can I dishonor his memory by not succeeding in this school that his death made possible for me!?”) Nobody wants to be in guilt-debt to the departed for the rest of their life.

      …I say this as someone who has done a fair share of trauma-selling of my own. And knows the toll that kind of “opportunity seizing” takes.
      :-/

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        February 10, 2023 at 2:34 pm | #

        Of course, she now seems to be cracking under the strain of “I gave up my dreams for this?”
        So not really sure which would be better.

  35. Chris (the other one)
    Chris (the other one)
    February 10, 2023 at 7:22 am | #

    So, I mentioned this the other day, and one reply said “it was jarring” the other one said she was sucking in her bottom lip. I think Willis is now drawing Dorothy as having a fairly extreme overbite, and I know I never noticed it before. It doesn’t really matter, I suppose, but it’s a “thing I now can’t unsee” and is actually a little unsettling for me.

    • spriteless aunty
      spriteless aunty
      February 10, 2023 at 4:41 pm | #

      I see it as a really tense jaw. Like she wants to curl up into a ball, and has forced every muscle to relax, except her skull muscles.

      Also, it’s a really awkward angle.

  36. Lysbeth
    Lysbeth
    February 10, 2023 at 8:03 am | #

    I really really hope the cast help Dorothy accept Yale. She’s worked for it, she knows she deserves it, and she’s dealing with shit by making it her moral responsibility where it simply can’t be. Learn to take the good in a bad situation when the bad situation isn’t yours. We’d miss her a lot, of course, but I think most readers will agree that she needs and deserves a happy ending and to represent the people in a not-full-of-sugar-and-terrible-ideas way.

    • Nicoleandmaggie
      Nicoleandmaggie
      February 10, 2023 at 8:41 am | #

      ::heart::

    • Alex
      Alex
      February 10, 2023 at 3:30 pm | #

      She’s also changed a lot from the person at the start of the comic that was so focused on Yale. She might want different things now. She might have different priorities.

  37. Derek
    Derek
    February 10, 2023 at 9:14 am | #

    “not to you” so does that mean if it was an anonymous person Dorothy didn’t know, she’d have an easier time doing this?

    • Eldritchy
      Eldritchy
      February 10, 2023 at 9:23 am | #

      You wouldn’t drone strike a friend!

      • Sajuuk-Khar
        Sajuuk-Khar
        February 10, 2023 at 12:00 pm | #

        “Dorothy Keener is on record saying she would never drone strike a friend! Good news for Keener’s COMMUNIST FRIENDS in CUBA, CHINA, and ANTIFA!!!

        We need a President who’s willing to drone strike anyone! Anywhere! No matter if you went to college with them or not!!!”

        *images of drones blowing up anime drawings of Joyce, Sarah, Becky, and Dina, then Dina again, then Dina three more times; lens flare transition to Mary with a shotgun demonstrating willful ignorance of gun safety or even gun good ideas*

        I’m Mary Bradford, and I approve this message! KACHOW!!!”

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          February 10, 2023 at 2:52 pm | #

          “As a compromise position if she insists, I’d be willing to drone strike Mary Bradford.”

          • StClair
            StClair
            February 10, 2023 at 5:18 pm | #

            welp, you’ve got MY vote.

          • Raen
            Raen
            February 10, 2023 at 9:59 pm | #

            Bradford? I thought her name was Clinton?

            • Sajuuk-Khar
              Sajuuk-Khar
              February 10, 2023 at 10:15 pm | #

              No, Sarah is Sarah Clinton and she does not deserve any drone strikes, as opposed to Mary whomst is karmically due like fifteen at once.

    • anon
      anon
      February 11, 2023 at 1:09 am | #

      it’s easier to ignore tragedies happening to ‘thousands’ of people when they’re faceless and far away, a person you know having lost a parent is diff than sickly elderly patients in hospitals that end up being just a ‘statitstic’

  38. Amós Batista
    Amós Batista
    February 10, 2023 at 9:29 am | #

    I’ve took so time to admire the quality of today’s strip, and I’ll praise Willis for improving his draw skill more and more. I love each face and expression here.

  39. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    February 10, 2023 at 10:31 pm | #

    GO BECKY!

  40. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    February 11, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    Give her a break Becky. She still believes you can get elected without a few skeletons in the closet.

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