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June 1, 2026

Off-putting

by David M Willis on May 27, 2023 at 12:01 am
  • 04 – But Don't Give Yourself Away
└ Tags: joyce, sarah

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    May 27, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    Carol does sound like she needs a handler

    • Ana Chronistic
      Ana Chronistic
      May 27, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

      also, lest you forgot

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        May 27, 2023 at 10:04 pm | #

        But does Sarah have the guts to kill Karol? Because dropping that load on her before ending her would be a hilarious twist on turning the knife before it even entered.

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      May 27, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

      YUUUUUUUPPP

      Joyce is making a huge mistake not having Sarah by her side, really

      • Angel
        Angel
        May 27, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

        depends on how much sarah was joking in the last panel, while some parents are probably used to seeing friends tease each other (tho idk how many ppl would be bold enough to do it in front of other ppl’s parents because i’m sure there are ppl that are like “oh they’re a bad influence, don’t hang out around them anymore” or “this is clearly bullying disguised as teasing because i saw this happen to me when i was younger”, but if she did drop that bombshell it’d def add fuel to the fire so to speak)

        • Bicycle Bill
          Bicycle Bill
          May 27, 2023 at 12:33 am | #

          I don’t think Sarah was joking.  In fact, she’d probably say something like that just for the LOLs she’d get out of watching Carol go into a China Syndrome meltdown.

          • NGPZ
            NGPZ
            May 27, 2023 at 1:14 am | #

            Pika pika? What is a “China Syndrome Meltdown”?

            • Ryan
              Ryan
              May 27, 2023 at 1:39 am | #

              The China Syndrome (1979) with Jane Fonda, Jack Lemmon, Michael Douglas.

              I haven’t actually seen it, so I can’t say more.

            • Ryan
              Ryan
              May 27, 2023 at 1:51 am | #

              Or, I could bother to read the tag line: “A reporter finds what appears to be a cover-up of safety hazards at a nuclear power plant.”

              I assumed an emotional meltdown in the movie instead of literal.

            • Bicycle Bill
              Bicycle Bill
              May 27, 2023 at 2:07 am | #

              ‘China syndrome’ is a fanciful term that describes a fictional result of a nuclear meltdown, where reactor components melt through their containment structures and into the underlying earth, “all the way to China”

            • Enkrod
              Enkrod
              May 27, 2023 at 2:09 am | #

              It’s one form of a maximum credible accident in a nuclear plant.

              When a nuclear reactor overheats to the point that it melts, it’s called a meltdown, at that point there is no stopping the runaway nuclear reaction, because you cant separate the uranium into sub-critical piles anymore. In some cases, this super hot highly radioactive blob of melted uranium might slowly melt its way through the bottom of its container and all the way down until it reaches ground water (in that case a steam explosion will happen) or basically into the core of the earth. It’s like it’s trying to dig a tunnel through the earth to china, hence “china syndrome”.

          • Angel
            Angel
            May 27, 2023 at 2:28 am | #

            well we never saw the other side/reaction but i think the only ‘offensive’ thing sarah did was answer teh phone and yell ‘fuck off!’ to who(m)ever was on the other end and then the storyline neded or so

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          May 27, 2023 at 9:15 am | #

          Not quite joking I think. She absolutely wouldn’t have done it, but it’s her usual style of sincerely offering support then walking it back with a joke when she’s not taken up on it.

  2. Ray Radlein
    Ray Radlein
    May 27, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    That’s what fiends are for

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      May 27, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

      They’ll stick with you through hell.

      • Azhrei Vep
        Azhrei Vep
        May 27, 2023 at 9:44 am | #

        Even if they have to take your there themselves.

    • milu
      milu
      May 27, 2023 at 10:09 am | #

      Fiends are very similar to friends, orthographically

    • Furie
      Furie
      May 27, 2023 at 5:40 pm | #

      Weird circle jerks?

  3. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    May 27, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    I’d like to believe that Sarah wouldn’t do that.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      May 27, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

      She thinks it’s funny to joke about but I can’t imagine her actually knowingly endangering a friend like that.

      • DailyBrad
        DailyBrad
        May 27, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

        Yeah, she’s probably being facetious, both since she would, anyway, and also probably as a way of acknowledging a line had been crossed earlier. This functions both as a joke at Joyce’s expense, sure, but also at her own for her lack of tact.

      • Ophidiophile
        Ophidiophile
        May 27, 2023 at 3:12 am | #

        More importantly, is this the most sarcastic response Joyce has made? I think Sarah is rubbing off on her.

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          May 27, 2023 at 4:20 am | #

          Phrasing

          • GholaHalleck
            GholaHalleck
            May 27, 2023 at 10:56 am | #

            Sarah wakes up with hung over with a dryer sheet stuck to her face

          • Ophidiophile
            Ophidiophile
            May 27, 2023 at 4:24 pm | #

            Doh.

      • temporaryobsessor
        temporaryobsessor
        May 27, 2023 at 7:52 am | #

        I don’t think Carol would point a gun at Joyce, but…

        • GholaHalleck
          GholaHalleck
          May 27, 2023 at 10:57 am | #

          But she *did* help bail out someone who did.

          • temporaryobsessor
            temporaryobsessor
            May 27, 2023 at 4:33 pm | #

            Exactly; and her logic wasn’t even Christian forgiveness gone mad.

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      May 27, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

      I don’t think Sarah was being entirely serious there, no. I do think, however, that it’s sort of a tacit admission that she would have no actual idea of how to help Joyce in this situation– that is, the necessary tactics aren’t in her playbook.

    • Angel
      Angel
      May 27, 2023 at 12:21 am | #

      she’d probably make some vague jokes about it but i’m sure there’s anecdotes of friends hanging around parents and making innocuous statements that somehow gets them in trouble

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      May 27, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

      Pretty sure it’s her doing an appropriate level of teasing. like here. It’s a little obscure, but later Joyce accidentally outed herself as an atheist to Becky, and Sarah didn’t find it amusing.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      May 27, 2023 at 12:46 am | #

      She’d like you to believe that she would. … because I think she feels the need to earn some cred back after being supportive for a second. … or maybe she’s self-conscious about that sort of thing after Lucy called her out on it a minute ago.

    • Orange Lantern
      Orange Lantern
      May 30, 2023 at 7:16 am | #

      Depends if she’s a good friend or a best friend.

      Good friends bail you out of jail. Your best friends wakes up in your cell next to you going „what a night, huh?“.

      You have to accept that as part of the deal for someone who would be going through hellfire for you.

  4. UrsulaDavina
    UrsulaDavina
    May 27, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    I mean maybe she’d say that to maker Carol have a heart attack.

    • Puppeteer Nessus
      Puppeteer Nessus
      May 27, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

      I’m betting Joyce says it to maker her mother go away

      • Archieve
        Archieve
        May 27, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

        Wouldn’t necessarily work, Carol has denied that Ross hurt anybody and that she ever curses…right after both of those things happened. She have serious self delusion if she believes Joyce would never do it she might actually be incapable of being convinced otherwise

        • Mark
          Mark
          May 27, 2023 at 7:54 am | #

          I re-read that strip the other day, and I think she’s right about not cursing: she’s not calling for someone to be damned; she thinks it’s a done deal.

          Not that that makes her attitude any nicer.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        May 27, 2023 at 4:22 am | #

        Carol doesn’t go away, she doubles down.

    • Suzi
      Suzi
      May 27, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

      Sarah loves to help in the most chaots inducing way possible.

  5. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    May 27, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    Oh boy I can hardly wait for the needlessly personal Sarah hate comments we’re about to get

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      May 27, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

      Yeah her hat is the wrong shade of green. What a looser.

    • aelfwine
      aelfwine
      May 27, 2023 at 10:29 am | #

      I don’t see any in the thread. Prediction failed?

      • Sombrero
        Sombrero
        May 27, 2023 at 2:04 pm | #

        It’s called the Carol Effect. It’s like a black hole of hate. No hate can escape when Carol is around, all get stuck within her, even hate comments.

  6. Mollyscribbles
    Mollyscribbles
    May 27, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    To be fair, Carol’s reaction would be hilarious. For us, not Joyce.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      May 27, 2023 at 4:22 am | #

      Someday we’ll get the Carol version of the Shocked Joyce Face.

      Someday.

  7. NGPZ
    NGPZ
    May 27, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    BTW less than 12 hours now to cast your vote for Dina in the Autistic Girlies Bracket on Tumblr! She’s in the lead!!! WAHOOOO!!!! 😍

    https://www.tumblr.com/autisticgirliesbracket/717861569237794816/autistic-girlies-bracket-round-1-side-a

    • Devin
      Devin
      May 27, 2023 at 1:46 am | #

      Dina took the lead after Willis reblogged it and it’s only grown since then. I like Dina’s chances, but this is only round one. And have you seen the rest of the polls in the bracket? This is gonna be a wild ride.

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        May 27, 2023 at 2:10 am | #

        Hell yeah!!!! Reagan Ridley from Netflix’s Inside Job is on Side B, I’M STIMMING SO MUCH YEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

  8. shadowcell
    shadowcell
    May 27, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    Mike would’ve done it

    for a nickel

    • shadowcell
      shadowcell
      May 27, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

      y’know i feel like with 25-odd years of inflation Mike would presume your mom has raised her prices by now so maybe it would be two nickels

      • milu
        milu
        May 27, 2023 at 10:16 am | #

        with 25-odd years of inflation

        Mike’s tastes are very specific and stable.

        • milu
          milu
          May 27, 2023 at 10:17 am | #

          (Do fetishes carry over between verses?)

      • vulcanodon
        vulcanodon
        May 27, 2023 at 12:05 pm | #

        I feel that Mike would probably keep his price consistent, like Arizona Tea. As a statement, y’know?

        • Ana Chronistic
          Ana Chronistic
          May 27, 2023 at 11:59 pm | #

          He would’ve reduced to a penny out of spite but it’s not as funny to say penny

  9. Imogen
    Imogen
    May 27, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    I love these two.

    (People are probably going to choose to take Sarah literally here so they can get mad at her, but, like… I don’t. Sarah does tell jokes, you know.)

    • Stevonnie
      Stevonnie
      May 27, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

      Totally agreed!

  10. Yumi
    Yumi
    May 27, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    Oh god, how would you even figure out the funniest possible moment for that, like yeah, this one’s good, but what if there’s an even better setup later? It’s a real conundrum.

    • MM
      MM
      May 27, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

      Mike would’ve known.

    • Angel
      Angel
      May 27, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

      probably sometime in between lunch and carol starting to proselytize or so

      • Proxiehunter
        Proxiehunter
        May 27, 2023 at 12:42 am | #

        If they were somehow to wind up in the same restaurant as Walky, Lucy, and Walky’s parents are eating lunch so they can hear the fallout that would be the funniest time.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      May 27, 2023 at 12:21 am | #

      “Hold on while I hold this fabrige egg and take a LONG smooth swig from this glass of water”

      • eh, whatever
        eh, whatever
        May 27, 2023 at 5:46 am | #

        Fabergé

        • Yotomoe
          Yotomoe
          May 27, 2023 at 10:00 am | #

          Gesundheit

    • Mark
      Mark
      May 27, 2023 at 7:57 am | #

      Never look back.

  11. k
    k
    May 27, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

    Welp. Here’s hoping that Joe sees them through the window or something and decides to join Joyce, since she’s probably texted him all about her issues with Carol and the divorce.

    • Angel
      Angel
      May 27, 2023 at 12:24 am | #

      i imagine they were going to eat lunch together that day anyways unless joe had previous plans/class

      • Proxiehunter
        Proxiehunter
        May 27, 2023 at 12:43 am | #

        At the same place Walky’s going to wind up with Linda, Charles, and Lucy?

        • Needfuldoer
          Needfuldoer
          May 27, 2023 at 5:32 am | #

          Yes… ha ha! YES!

  12. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    May 27, 2023 at 12:24 am | #

    I wonder if Joe will show up, and if he does, if he’ll try to cover for her and maybe even try to pretend at being Christian for it.

    “I’m your daughter’s boyfriend, Joe… Rogerson….”

    I doubt Joyce would let him, but it’d admittedly probably lead to some great punchlines.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      May 27, 2023 at 12:28 am | #

      On the off chance anyone needs it spelled out: I thiiink Rosenthal’s a German-origin surname that’s not necessarily Jewish, but if you were going to encounter that surname in the US, there would be a very high probability of Jewishness, or at least, that would be the immediate assumption, similar to not every person with the surname Schwartz being Jewish, but again, it’d be a probable assumption, especially to someone like Carol.

      • Kimi
        Kimi
        May 27, 2023 at 2:17 am | #

        I was someone that needed that spelled out because I had absolutely no idea. I don’t know if that is a good thing or a bad thing on my part.

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      May 27, 2023 at 3:38 pm | #

      Son of the Rogering.

  13. Pocky
    Pocky
    May 27, 2023 at 12:38 am | #

    turn around, and she’s out of there

    like batman

    • butting
      butting
      May 27, 2023 at 11:07 am | #

      Actual cannibal

      Carol Brown

  14. BBCC
    BBCC
    May 27, 2023 at 12:48 am | #

    Oh BULLSHIT ya were, Sarah. Your face in panel 3 says else wise.

  15. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    May 27, 2023 at 12:48 am | #

    Joyce is putting on a brave face right now, but she clearly feels like she’s peaked and is on the downward slope. Her best days are over, and she’s such a has-bin.

    • Kagimizu
      Kagimizu
      May 27, 2023 at 1:04 am | #

      Get out. Get. Out.

      If this were Reddit I would be giving an angry upvote. Instead I can only give anger.

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      May 27, 2023 at 1:13 am | #

      Wait what do you mean? I don’t quite see where you’re coming from, maybe your wording if off? :confused_pikachu_face:

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        May 27, 2023 at 1:20 am | #

        She Has Bin. In her hands. She has it. A bin. She has a bin. And it’s a homophone with Has-Been.

        • NGPZ
          NGPZ
          May 27, 2023 at 2:31 am | #

          XD

          • Allison Branford
            Allison Branford
            May 27, 2023 at 6:18 am | #

            This has been a great pun, with liner notes.

    • milu
      milu
      May 27, 2023 at 10:29 am | #

      *Boos while applauding while choking with laughter while racking brain for “yes, and” while realizing nothing will possibly measure up*

  16. SDRainbow
    SDRainbow
    May 27, 2023 at 12:51 am | #

    I don’t know what’s going on with Sarah’s body language in the final panel but it is hilarious

    • milu
      milu
      May 27, 2023 at 10:32 am | #

      Her lower body is leaving as fast as it can while her upper body is unable to resist dropping some parting snark

  17. Dara
    Dara
    May 27, 2023 at 12:54 am | #

    1: Sarah knows about that?

    2: Sarah should start packing a cattle prod and loan it out as necessary. I think in this instance that it is necessary.

    • TerribleTransit
      TerribleTransit
      May 27, 2023 at 1:06 am | #

      Sarah doesn’t know all the details but she knows some weird masturbatory stuff went down

  18. C.T. Phipps
    C.T. Phipps
    May 27, 2023 at 1:08 am | #

    Watch Carol reveal she’s an atheist and just enjoys the racist community. Hank and Becky are the only actual believers.

  19. TerribleTransit
    TerribleTransit
    May 27, 2023 at 1:09 am | #

    *glances at tags*

    Sal looking a little off-model today. Acting kinda strange too.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      May 27, 2023 at 1:18 am | #

      Also I swear she’s been raiding Sarah’s closet….has anyone seen Sarah lately?

  20. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    May 27, 2023 at 1:18 am | #

    My evil desire is that Joe does join them but a newly single Carol swoons a little over Joyce’s Handsome boyfriend and is too distracted by how hunky he is to be a pill towards Joyce.

  21. Devin
    Devin
    May 27, 2023 at 1:40 am | #

    Come on Sarah, you should have enough math to know that two points defines a line, not a circle.

    • eh, whatever
      eh, whatever
      May 27, 2023 at 5:49 am | #

      She doesn’t know how many hands were involved.

  22. Bryy
    Bryy
    May 27, 2023 at 2:42 am | #

    A little concerned Joyce doesn’t consider her mom a threat.

    • Mark
      Mark
      May 27, 2023 at 8:07 am | #

      Sometimes you withdraw from a threat; sometimes you step forward, to put it within your grasp.

  23. Andrews
    Andrews
    May 27, 2023 at 2:58 am | #

    Last panel Sarah is most adorable Sarah face ever (though based on some other comments, I may be interpreting it differently to others!)

  24. Dr. T
    Dr. T
    May 27, 2023 at 3:34 am | #

    No Sarah! Let Joyce drop that hammer herself.

  25. yarrr
    yarrr
    May 27, 2023 at 4:25 am | #

    This will be fine. “Boss intro music starts playing ‘

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      May 27, 2023 at 5:46 pm | #

      *plays “Conflicted” from Binding of Isaac Soundtrack*

  26. AGV
    AGV
    May 27, 2023 at 4:39 am | #

    Go get her, Joyce

  27. Bogeywoman
    Bogeywoman
    May 27, 2023 at 4:54 am | #

    I hope Joyce reaches a point and bursts out with this exact language (possibly when Carol finds out Joe is Jewish and says something about Joyce heading hell-wards).

  28. Juanoku
    Juanoku
    May 27, 2023 at 4:57 am | #

    Real subtle, huh

  29. Chasey
    Chasey
    May 27, 2023 at 5:00 am | #

    Oof. I’m guessing Carol sees everyone’s left and drops her nice façade.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      May 27, 2023 at 5:40 am | #

      I think she’ll keep love-bombing, but she’ll stir in some passive-aggressive comments that leave Joyce conflicted.

  30. Zaxares
    Zaxares
    May 27, 2023 at 5:33 am | #

    This is why I love Sarah. Sure, she gives you grief, but she will STAND BY YOU if you need her to.

    • milu
      milu
      May 27, 2023 at 10:36 am | #

      This is why i love Sarah. Sure she stands by you if you need her to, but she will GIVE YOU GRIEF

  31. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    May 27, 2023 at 5:43 am | #

    Aww, Sarah really is the big sister Joyce never had.

    • milu
      milu
      May 27, 2023 at 10:37 am | #

      To the best of her knowledge anyhow

  32. Hof1991
    Hof1991
    May 27, 2023 at 8:44 am | #

    Prediction. Carol has a new main squeeze. Evangelicals can divorce if “unevenly yoked “. If your spouse isn’t Christian enough for you.

    Carol is way too happy for being newly divorced.

    Joyce can be on board or become another one of her children who isn’t talked about. Doesn’t matter too much to Carol.

    • Alongcameaspider
      Alongcameaspider
      May 27, 2023 at 11:34 am | #

      I don’t know, something tells me that she’s not going to give up her only (that she’s aware of/willing to consider one) daughter that easily

  33. JBento
    JBento
    May 27, 2023 at 10:12 am | #

    So, like, completely unrelated, but I saw a game where one of the characters is a gay man that goes by she/her pronouns. Is this something that actually happens in real life?

    • milu
      milu
      May 27, 2023 at 10:44 am | #

      In some gay male circles female pronouns are used playfully for fem/effeminate men. I’m not that familiar with the gay scene but i don’t find it surprising?

      • JBento
        JBento
        May 27, 2023 at 11:28 am | #

        Hmm, the character in question doesn’t strike me as effeminate so far, but could be that. The narration also uses those pronouns to refer to her. 🤔

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      May 27, 2023 at 12:00 pm | #

      As a general stance, while using the wrong pronouns for someone may be considered misgendering them, I think it’s good to remember that pronouns aren’t gender. I’ve never known a gay man who uses she/her, and only she/her, all the time, but it certainly seems possible. I have known cis lesbian women who use he/him pronouns.

    • Lysbeth
      Lysbeth
      May 27, 2023 at 12:45 pm | #

      It’s unusual, you might even say rare, but not unheard of. People, cis and trans, play with gender cues and presentation all the time – some more than others though, and personal pronouns are far on the “more” side of the spectrum, but it’s a thing people do nonetheless.

    • Sam
      Sam
      May 27, 2023 at 2:41 pm | #

      Well, Drag Queens exist and have often been gay men so, definitely not an unheard of thing, just not typical. In languages where I is different for each gender, it sometimes happens that a girl uses the male one as well. So I would say it is uncommon enough you won’t encounter it a lot, but it will crop up on occasions. Sometimes they just like it, sometimes it is to make a point, sometimes they are experimenting.

      I have known a transperson who said they were both trans and gay because that was the easiest way to explain their current position, though logically, the way it worked out, they would be straight, but they hadn’t transistioned, so still presented as cisgender at the time. But explaining all that is a lot of work.

    • JBento
      JBento
      May 27, 2023 at 7:06 pm | #

      Thank you, everyone, for your input.

  34. Adept
    Adept
    May 27, 2023 at 11:14 am | #

    She remains a jerk. “Friendly” ribbing and insults are a thing I’ve never approved of. Not the way she does it, at least.

    • Alongcameaspider
      Alongcameaspider
      May 27, 2023 at 11:38 am | #

      I mean I interpret that comment as more poking fun at herself and her own lack of tact

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        May 27, 2023 at 12:53 pm | #

        I see it a sincere offer of help, which when turned down, she covered up with a joke to keep up her “I don’t care” facade.

  35. Suet
    Suet
    May 27, 2023 at 4:15 pm | #

    Joyce still needs someone to help carry the bins, she doesn’t have the strength of an ant.

    • Furie
      Furie
      May 27, 2023 at 5:42 pm | #

      Her mom’ll help her carry them to the new home they’re now sharing following THE DIVORCE THAT MUST NOT BE SPOKEN OF over her being pissed that her husband finally putting their kids first.

      • Furie
        Furie
        May 28, 2023 at 9:29 am | #

        Huh, I was right.

  36. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    May 28, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    Server clock’s drifting back a bit, it seems.

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