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by David M Willis on November 2, 2023 at 12:01 am
  • 01 – Everybody's Looking for Nothing
└ Tags: carla, dorothy, joyce

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  1. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    November 2, 2023 at 12:01 am | #

    “the” secret trans person

    only one, folks, sorry

    • Ana Chronistic
      Ana Chronistic
      November 2, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

      Carla: “and they’ll do it again!! …and by they I mean I“

      • Harmony
        Harmony
        November 3, 2023 at 7:35 pm | #

        Joyce: “But that still leaves the question of who it is!”

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      November 2, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

      Also, the “secret” trans person.

      Dorothy just said it was national news, but she won’t tell Joyce, so it’s a “secret”.

      • Daibhid C
        Daibhid C
        November 2, 2023 at 2:06 pm | #

        Well,yes, in that Dorothy is keeping it secret from Joyce, and Joyce probably isn’t going to go straight out and google it now that Dorothy has said it’s up to the secret trans person if they want her to know, so from Joyce’s perspective, it’s a secret.

        If everybody in the world except you knows something, and they won’t tell you what it is, then we’re… that is, they’re keeping it secret. W… they’re just keeping it secret from you specifically.

        You know, hypothetically.

        • Eric
          Eric
          November 2, 2023 at 3:09 pm | #

          Nice save – a l m o s t let the cat out of the bag!

    • PirateTawnee
      PirateTawnee
      November 2, 2023 at 12:32 am | #

      So startle them away. They’ll soon be back, and in greater numbers.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      November 2, 2023 at 1:31 am | #

      Carla would prefer to have “the” preface any description of her. The one on the skates, the tall redhead, the girl with the pies, and so on, not because she is the only one but because it implies being the definitive example.
      There may be other tall redheads, but she is the tall redhead.

      • Leorale
        Leorale
        November 2, 2023 at 6:36 am | #

        “To Sherlock Holmes she is always the woman…”
        Carla just wants to be the Irene Adler of the spoooky transladies.

      • HeatherJean
        HeatherJean
        November 2, 2023 at 10:22 pm | #

        To Joyce, she’ll always be the redhead with the big plastic jugs.

    • Mark
      Mark
      November 2, 2023 at 7:05 am | #

      One to a customer. Thank you for understanding.

    • Cracked_Egg
      Cracked_Egg
      November 3, 2023 at 10:21 am | #

      Well technically Carla doesn’t keep it secret

      • Ana Chronistic
        Ana Chronistic
        November 3, 2023 at 11:55 pm | #

        and if she does, it was an oversight

  2. NGPZ
    NGPZ
    November 2, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    feliz Dia de los Muertos to all who celebrate!!! 🪅💀🕯️🥃

    • Coatl
      Coatl
      November 2, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

      Feliz Dia !!!

    • Eagle Rock
      Eagle Rock
      November 2, 2023 at 1:02 am | #

      That would be me – Nov. 1 is my B-day

      • Laura
        Laura
        November 2, 2023 at 1:19 am | #

        Happy birthday!

        ¡Felicidades!

        ¡Feliz cumpleaños, Eagle Rock!

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        November 2, 2023 at 2:10 am | #

        🥳 🪅 🎉 🎂 🎈 🎊

        Happy birthday to you!!!

        The world is a zoo!!!

        We wish you a great party!!!

        And some sweet presents too!!!

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      November 2, 2023 at 6:52 am | #

      Feliz Dia de los Muertos, or Dia de Finados over here!
      🥳💀⚰️

    • Daibhid C
      Daibhid C
      November 2, 2023 at 2:12 pm | #

      Today is my Mum’s birthday, which used to be an interesting coincidence, and is now kind of disconcerting, with the religious slot on the radio saying “All Souls’ Day is a day to remember those we have lost” and me thinking “Yeah, no kidding.”

      • Laura
        Laura
        November 2, 2023 at 7:02 pm | #

        *Sends a caring pat on the shoulder.*

        • NGPZ
          NGPZ
          November 2, 2023 at 7:30 pm | #

          Same ;_;

    • Chris Phoenix
      Chris Phoenix
      November 3, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

      I recently learned that a couple of days before Halloween is another Dia de los Muertos, but for pets. It used to be just for dogs, but now it’s for all pets. They put pet treats on the graves.

      Source: A person in the California Bay Area whom I complemented on her Dia de los Muertos decor.

  3. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    November 2, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    I heard the secret trans person is really rich. Like a billionaire! I bet Carla knows her. All billionaires know each other.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      November 2, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

      If Carla gets wind of this, she’s going to have so much fun with it.

      She’ll just take Joyce through the list of billionaires and convince Joyce that like half of them are trans.

      Joyce: And did you know he used to be called Ellen Musk?

      Dorothy: Dammit, Carla.

      • Wack'd
        Wack'd
        November 2, 2023 at 1:16 am | #

        Unfortunately cis people have ruined this by starting their own right-wing conspiracy theories about everyone with a net worth being a secret trans.

        • Dark_T_Zeratul
          Dark_T_Zeratul
          November 2, 2023 at 1:39 am | #

          I think my favorite one that I saw was someone on Twitter claiming Margot Robbie was actually a man, to which someone else replied “we have seen this woman’s entire vagina.”

          • Taffy
            Taffy
            November 2, 2023 at 2:23 am | #

            Have we? I know she wears some little shorts in that one movie about the clown lady, but I didn’t know there was full frontal.

            • tbf
              tbf
              November 2, 2023 at 5:03 am | #

              Wolf of Wall Street

            • danimagoo
              danimagoo
              November 2, 2023 at 8:18 am | #

              A full frontal would not show the vagina. It would show the vulva. We have most certainly NOT seen Margot Robbie’s vagina, because that’s the inside part.

              Also, not for nothing, but trans women can, and do, have vaginas. Source: me. I’m a trans woman. I have a vagina.

              • Anna
                Anna
                November 2, 2023 at 12:34 pm | #

                Yeah, I was just thinking about that. To see _that_ we’d need, I don’t know, some gynecologist’s equipment and a very small camera.

                Always confused the hell out of me when people claimed some photo showed that.

              • Mym
                Mym
                November 2, 2023 at 3:59 pm | #

                According to the barbie movie, she has no genitals

              • adam Black
                adam Black
                November 3, 2023 at 5:26 am | #

                It’s possible ( maybe not in humans) but it would be a serious illness.
                Nothing most sane people want to see.

                Rule 34. But Hollywood ain’t showing that

          • adam Black
            adam Black
            November 2, 2023 at 3:56 am | #

            Is that how Barbie ends?

            ( I flagged you by mistake and I am sorry.

            Willis you need to update flagging
            with confirmations)

            • Cloud
              Cloud
              November 2, 2023 at 4:59 am | #

              Happened to me the other day as well

            • Dean
              Dean
              November 3, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

              And also not have ‘Reply’ and ‘Flag’ be two tiny links right next to each other.

          • DashWallkick
            DashWallkick
            November 2, 2023 at 11:08 am | #

            Transvestigators are the lowest form of the terf because they’ve wrapped their petty, stupid little greivance against the world into a disease that has fully enveloped their brains. You could literally just tell them “they did porn and there’s a video of them giving birth, they are not trans” and they would go “But do we *KNOW* that though???” and spam more charts of bone structure in faces.

            • Tan
              Tan
              November 2, 2023 at 3:43 pm | #

              Everyone knows real cis women don’t have bones.

        • Zero
          Zero
          November 2, 2023 at 3:26 am | #

          I think they’ve moved on to everyone being secret trans.

          • Smallmoon
            Smallmoon
            November 2, 2023 at 4:23 am | #

            the version I have heard is “Hollywood/The Elites mandates that you transition to become famous as an initiation ritual” so, for example, Elliot Page actually DEtransitioned, and every other currently-active movie star is Assigned Counter To Their Presentation at Birth.

            • Needfuldoer
              Needfuldoer
              November 2, 2023 at 6:22 am | #

              Then wouldn’t they hold him in esteem for coming out?

              Oh right, doublethink. The lack of narrative continuity is a feature. Never mind!

        • Daibhid C
          Daibhid C
          November 2, 2023 at 2:28 pm | #

          Terfs ruin everything.

          I used to think “how do weird kids’ characters work, biologically?” was a fun game of the “subjecting something to more analysis than it’s intended to bear is funny” variety, until a Twitter terf freaked out that there was a nonhuman character who had they/them pronouns, and started demanding that the creator explained how the entire species worked.

          (But, seriously, where did the baby Teletubbies in the newer episodes come from? AFAIK, there’s no suggestion the “grown up” Teletubbies are their parents, which would be kind of weird anyway, since the “grown up” Teletubbies aren’t really protrayed as actually being grown ups. Are they younger siblings? And does that mean there are actually grown up Teletubbies, who are presumably ten feet tall or something?)

          • TulipKitten
            TulipKitten
            November 2, 2023 at 5:30 pm | #

            There are TERFs who like Steven Universe and that just makes me sad. Because the gems aren’t “biologically female” but look feminine and use she/her pronouns. And the creator is non-binary. And the last episode of the original series is a blatantly obvious transgender allegory.

            • Chris Phoenix
              Chris Phoenix
              November 3, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

              An enby person told me, in a conversation about trans stuff, that Steven Universe was the most important show on television.

          • Adam Black
            Adam Black
            November 3, 2023 at 12:25 am | #

            Pretty certain I remember a YouTube horror about adult Teletubbies

  4. Kamino Neko
    Kamino Neko
    November 2, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    Joyce Brown: Master Detective.

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      November 2, 2023 at 12:32 am | #

      The official title is “Love Sleuth”, remember? 😛

      • Agentomega
        Agentomega
        November 2, 2023 at 1:12 am | #

        love sleuth

        Ok I’mma need Joyce doing the Chika Dance now…

      • Wack'd
        Wack'd
        November 2, 2023 at 1:17 am | #

        Homoromantic Love Sleuth

        • ValdVin
          ValdVin
          November 2, 2023 at 7:04 am | #

          “Homoromantic” modifies “love”, not “sleuth”. As of now, that is.

    • David DeLaney
      David DeLaney
      November 3, 2023 at 2:12 pm | #

      Mister Detective

      –Dave, to get technical about it

  5. Chiatroll
    Chiatroll
    November 2, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    We’ll never find out who it is.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      November 2, 2023 at 1:36 am | #

      Unless that someone WANTS attention…

      • butting
        butting
        November 2, 2023 at 6:29 am | #

        But we’ll never even know that, what with Carla constantly jumping up and down in the way.

  6. shadowcell
    shadowcell
    November 2, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    Dumbing of Age! Totally Gets Corrupted By the Spooky Transgenders

  7. Grimey
    Grimey
    November 2, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    Carla in Panel 4 is highly entertained ‘hah, neat’ energy.

    If only she knew.

    • Raen
      Raen
      November 2, 2023 at 6:39 am | #

      I think she does know, and she’s having a go at Joyce’s expense.

  8. NGPZ
    NGPZ
    November 2, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    > Alt Text,

    Wait Carla dyes?

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      November 2, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

      Carla ain’t natty?

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        November 2, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

        natty? pika pika?

        • RassilonTDavros
          RassilonTDavros
          November 2, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

          Short for “natural,” presumably, as in a “natural redhead.”

        • Sirksome
          Sirksome
          November 2, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

          “Natty” is an abbreviation of “natural” and is used in the body building community in reference to whether the condition and appearance of physiques are naturally achieved or aided with the use steroid enhancement, but it can also be used generally to refer to any trait. In this case the alt text implies Carla is not a natural red head. She dyes. She ain’t natty.

          • Jamie
            Jamie
            November 2, 2023 at 12:34 am | #

            I swear to flying spaghetti monster that the best indicator of my age is that I keep learning new slang and also I’m grumpy about it because I have a headache right now.

            • Laura
              Laura
              November 2, 2023 at 1:20 am | #

              I hope your head feels better soon!

              Does it help to drape a warm damp washcloth on your forehead? Sometimes that can help. Good luck!

            • clif
              clif
              November 2, 2023 at 1:25 am | #

              On the plus side, having to learn new slang means you aren’t dead yet.

            • Psychie
              Psychie
              November 2, 2023 at 1:48 am | #

              I actually would argue that that is *not* an indicator of age, because minus the headache, that’s how I’ve been reacting to new slang since I was like 10. Frankly, I get annoyed that certain older, obsolete slang terms are cooler or more useful than many modern ones. 23skiddoo will ALWAYS be better than GTFO, but nobody knows what I mean when I say it. And “going steady” is an incredibly useful phrase that hardly anyone has used since the 1950s despite MANY people having expressed a desire for a simple phrase to sum up the classic “define the relationship” conversation. It’s SO much simpler to just ask “do you want to go steady?” than it is to be all like “so, we’ve been seeing each other for a few weeks now, I haven’t been really seeing anybody else, and I really like you, so do you wanna, like, be my exclusive significant other?”

              For the record, I am in my 20s.

            • StClair
              StClair
              November 2, 2023 at 2:32 am | #

              I remember when “huck” occupied roughly the same space that “yeet” now does.

              • Chris Phoenix
                Chris Phoenix
                November 3, 2023 at 12:30 am | #

                Heh, I know that one – and yet “huck a loogie” somehow seems very different than “yeet a loogie”

                • David DeLaney
                  David DeLaney
                  November 3, 2023 at 2:15 pm | #

                  huh. i always heard it as ‘hock a loogie’

                  –Dave, cushlamochree!

            • khn0
              khn0
              November 2, 2023 at 4:02 am | #

              In this context, should we really use slang that is already in used for other type of hairs? Natty=having dreadlocks in jamaican creole.

              • zee
                zee
                November 2, 2023 at 11:33 am | #

                Eh, patois is basically it’s own language. I wouldn’t really call the vocabulary slang. Different languages share words with different meanings

            • milu
              milu
              November 2, 2023 at 7:11 am | #

              Wait how does the fact that you are learning new slang say anything about your age

            • Nipo
              Nipo
              November 2, 2023 at 7:48 am | #

              Oh yeah. Is that “natty” the same word they use when singing “Natty Dread”?

              Talk about educational.

              • Daibhid C
                Daibhid C
                November 2, 2023 at 2:46 pm | #

                If you mean “natty” for “natural hair” then no. Further to khn0’s point above, I was inspired to do some research, suspecting the two terms might be related, and it seems the Creole word actually derives from “knotty”.

          • Mark
            Mark
            November 2, 2023 at 7:13 am | #

            OK, but before that it meant carefully and stylishly, usually referring to dress, which is why some of us gave you a confused look. Carla is always well turned out.

          • Bibliholic93
            Bibliholic93
            November 2, 2023 at 9:33 am | #

            khn0 are you suggesting the english language makes sense? :p

            Ate eight wait weight, all pronounced differently than height and mostly spelled differently than hate XD the mostly makes it worse tbh.

            Words in a living language happen. This natty already sounds like AAVE, and in fact referencing hair or anything else natural seems a logical step actually. As opposed to people “buying the farm” as in needing to buy a grave, or “being a monday night quarterback” as in questioning choices after the fact.

            • khn0
              khn0
              November 2, 2023 at 12:00 pm | #

              No, I’m not saying it’s consistent (different from making sense) nor phonetically nor semantically.

              Just to me, it’d feel a bit insensitive to form a new word and make its use erase the former one when it comes from a community that already struggles to get recognition of its languages. In that aspect, if language even exists, even “patois” -which is derogatory in french while creole ceased to be derogatory after decades of Matinik, Gwada, Haiti born academics, poets and philosopher updating it- comes from the unification of a group where a majority founds the rules and a minority gets its own practices overruled.

              So english language is not a thing, hence can’t make sense, hence has social practices as ever evoluting basis, and like all social constructs we have to make sense out of it and, likely in this case, try to keep in mind the self designation of a religious aspect that may be a basis of a post-colonial identity, over some marketing target slang (even if ofc it can always be a subversion led by people who rightfully comprehend the subtext, but I somehow doubt of that).

              tl;dr: I’m not fun at parties.

              • Chris Phoenix
                Chris Phoenix
                November 3, 2023 at 12:36 am | #

                If “natty” for natural originated in bodybuilding (as comments above state), then it’s coincidence, not appropriation. I really can’t see that it’s disrespectful to use a word in one of its original senses that’s unrelated to its other origin.

                It may be confusing. And it may seem disrespectful to someone who only knows the other origin. But I don’t think we can call someone disrespectful for using a word with a 100% legitimate original meaning, just because it happens to be the same spelling as another word.

                If someone feels disrespected by the use of a word like this, I’d hope they would have at least enough chill to learn the reason it was being used, and would then decide to live and let live rather than trying to eradicate part of someone else’s language.

                • khn0
                  khn0
                  November 3, 2023 at 6:30 am | #

                  I was really angry after reading your comment.

                  First some people (not you) implies I don’t know how languages works. Fine, it’s my field of work, albeit not in english, and I spent several years studying how it works, included how it is socially used in struggles between groups, and how words themselves struggle to be kept alive and the idea they represent.

                  Whatever, this is internet, everyone is an expert (and it’s maybe even true).

                  Then you go and accuse me (indirectly with “if someone”, so the hypothetic target isn’t there but I still get how unchill *I* am for dining it disrectful, nicely done) of cancelling when I am trying to educate. I was never saying the OP is bad for employing it – I’ve read them enough to know they wouldn’t be OK with whitewashing. I was giving the word a context *when it regard hairs* (so in a context that even differs from the use of community of bodybuilding) to make observe it’s related to rasta religion, and that designing then the white hair as natural (for her I get it’s implied) wouldn’t be in better taste, a statement I made it with introductory words expressing subjectivity AND a modal verb. I may not be a native speaker, but what the hell.

                  So now I’m mad, and I even had to calm down in order to justify myself of something I didn’t do so I’m even angrier. Good job internet. Good job english as a global language and domination tool. You’ve won: now I will only post in esperanto or baleybelen.

      • Smallmoon
        Smallmoon
        November 2, 2023 at 4:25 am | #

        I don’t find it that surprising mean, she’s made more involved alterations to her body in the interest of achieving peak Herself.

        • morleuca
          morleuca
          November 2, 2023 at 5:30 am | #

          Perfection is a process, not an end result.

    • Cattleprod
      Cattleprod
      November 2, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

      Yeah, as I recall she doesn’t need glasses either. The glasses and red hair are to make her look more like Ultra Car.

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        November 2, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

        Oh yeah! Thus why she clashed with Walky that one time…

      • Cattleprod
        Cattleprod
        November 2, 2023 at 2:27 pm | #

        And now I’m imagining a sitcom misunderstanding where someone thinks she’s trying to emulate Ruth, they’re already the two characters I’m most likely to confuse for each other.

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      November 2, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

      I’m more concerned that she is “despectacled” – which I guess means her glasses are either for show (or more disturbingly) she has another pair of glasses which she has removed. Did she used to wear two pairs of glasses on top of each other? Does she have another secret pair of eyes? Is Carla an X-man (X-womans? Having female members of the x-men always confused me when it comes to grammar)?

      • Kimi
        Kimi
        November 2, 2023 at 12:31 am | #

        Could also be that she needed glasses when she was older. I didn’t start needing glasses until 5th grade. Was very cranky about having to get them and my eyes have only slowly gotten worse.

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        November 2, 2023 at 1:38 am | #

        it was evidently a typo

      • Nipo
        Nipo
        November 2, 2023 at 7:53 am | #

        My logic is that “man” means actually “human”, “woman” means “female human” specifically, and male humans don’t need a specific word anymore.. But of course I am not a native speaker!

        • Regret
          Regret
          November 2, 2023 at 5:16 pm | #

          Before 1300 or so, male humans were called wer. Which is where werewolf got its were from.

        • Thag Simmons
          Thag Simmons
          November 3, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

          With the words “Man, Woman, Human” having the unmodified version refer to only a single sex genuinely makes me angry. “Man” should obviously be unisex and there should be some other word to refer to male humans.

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      November 2, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

      Yeah, she has blonde* hair as a child in one of the Patreon strips. Presumably she dyes it red to better resemble Ultra Car.

      *it looks light blue because it’s a flashback, but the color character model clearly shows that it’s blonde.

      • Vanessa
        Vanessa
        November 2, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

        Twitter is apparently broken again

        • RassilonTDavros
          RassilonTDavros
          November 2, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

          Here’s a third-party front-end, for as long as it holds out.

          • clif
            clif
            November 2, 2023 at 1:29 am | #

            Xtwitter.

            • Chris Phoenix
              Chris Phoenix
              November 3, 2023 at 12:38 am | #

              xitter, pronounced “sh!tter”

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        November 2, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

        oh yeah i forgot about that thanx

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        November 2, 2023 at 1:07 am | #

        also on tumblr

    • Nono
      Nono
      November 2, 2023 at 12:28 am | #

      That shade of red is, I imagine, fairly rare as a natural hair colour.

      • Ray Radlein
        Ray Radlein
        November 2, 2023 at 12:51 am | #

        Significantly rarer than transgender individuals, in fact, IIRC.

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        November 2, 2023 at 1:47 am | #

        Yeah it’s not common. Also if you have hair that’s naturally that colour you will get consistently complimented in public by people who love your hair no matter how badly you’re styling it

      • Weatherheight
        Weatherheight
        November 4, 2023 at 12:54 pm | #

        Went to Junior High School & High School with a young woman whose hair was just that color. She most definitely did not dye – sat behind her quite often in class (assigned seating – bleh) and her roots *never* changed.

        That said, she *was* the only woman I’ve ever known with the shade that *didn’t* have some augmentation along the way. So yeah, very fair point from my experience.

        She was a pretty good person too. 😀

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      November 2, 2023 at 1:35 am | #

      Yeah, although I don’t know if it’s been called out in the comic proper before

    • Carla's #2 Fan
      Carla's #2 Fan
      November 2, 2023 at 3:45 am | #

      Carla successfully pulled what I did in college! I dyed my hair red from 9th grade till a few years after college (it’s teal now). Once I entered college, only one person there had seen me before I started dying it, everyone else assumed it was natural.

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      November 2, 2023 at 9:18 am | #

      Willis has mentioned this isn’t her natural hair color but I thought that that meant darker.

      • Chris Phoenix
        Chris Phoenix
        November 3, 2023 at 12:42 am | #

        You Want It Darker – IMO one of the timelessly great songs

    • David DeLaney
      David DeLaney
      November 3, 2023 at 2:14 pm | #

      yeah, but then she uses the resurrection tubes

      –Dave, then has to go through this all OVER again

  9. RassilonTDavros
    RassilonTDavros
    November 2, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    Heh

    Heh heh heh HA HA HA

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      November 2, 2023 at 1:28 am | #

      I have not laughed this hard in a while.

  10. Wraithy2773
    Wraithy2773
    November 2, 2023 at 12:05 am | #

    Cue “Naked Gun Facepalm” scene…

  11. Amós Batista
    Amós Batista
    November 2, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    Lock the door, to keep the cliffhanger going on.

  12. Decidedly Orthogonal
    Decidedly Orthogonal
    November 2, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    Alt… But Carla has glasses? Is this just one of her “rules don’t apply to me” things?

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      November 2, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

      n.b. at the time of comment, it says:

      “carla attends the tall, despectacled blonde-who-dyes convention”

      • Wraithy2773
        Wraithy2773
        November 2, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

        I think its just the inverse of her comment in panel 2.

  13. Taffy
    Taffy
    November 2, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    She probably doesn’t know. Why would she?

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      November 2, 2023 at 2:19 am | #

      She doesn’t seem like the “read news magazines” type to me.

      • David DeLaney
        David DeLaney
        November 3, 2023 at 2:20 pm | #

        you don’t have to read them
        when you’re in them
        myanmar shave

        –Dave, no, not ‘malaya’

  14. ANeM
    ANeM
    November 2, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    So Carla being Carla and having a one track mind, how do you think she’s going to use half a stick of butter to win over Charlie?

    • Angel
      Angel
      November 2, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

      shes’ gonna butter her up 8D;

      • Dday
        Dday
        November 2, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

        *rimshot*

    • Laura
      Laura
      November 2, 2023 at 1:23 am | #

      Bake brownies!

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      November 2, 2023 at 1:38 am | #

      Carla no.

      I don’t know what I’m saying Carla no to, but definitely Carla no oh dammit she’s making a pie isn’t she.

      • David DeLaney
        David DeLaney
        November 3, 2023 at 2:21 pm | #

        you don’t have to actually say it
        you could just make a sign to hold up

        –Dave, cue the Hallelujah Chorus monks

    • Proxiehunter
      Proxiehunter
      November 2, 2023 at 3:36 am | #

      Cannibutter.

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        November 2, 2023 at 3:48 am | #

        *plays “Psychedelic” by Bensound on hacked muzak*

    • Null Set
      Null Set
      November 2, 2023 at 11:15 am | #

      The pies gotta come from somewhere

  15. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    November 2, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    So carla was original blond ? 😮

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      November 2, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

      It also says DEspectacled, so I’ve no idea what’s going on there. 😅

      • morleuca
        morleuca
        November 2, 2023 at 6:46 am | #

        Contact lenses? Lasix? Prk?

        • Decidedly Orthogonal
          Decidedly Orthogonal
          November 2, 2023 at 9:12 pm | #

          Typo. 😏 Though whether it was me or the alt text, I’ll never tell.

  16. John Campbell
    John Campbell
    November 2, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    Carla doesn’t know about the secret trans person. She only knows about the incredibly out trans person.

    • StClair
      StClair
      November 2, 2023 at 2:35 am | #

      see also Becky and closeted lesbians.

  17. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    November 2, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    also Carla, do I want to know why you need butter to bring away from the floor’s only kitchen/official eating area ? 😀

    • HeatherJean
      HeatherJean
      November 2, 2023 at 12:45 am | #

      Microwaved popcorn?

    • Laura
      Laura
      November 2, 2023 at 1:35 am | #

      …To grease the wheels of her roller skates, OF COURSE!

      • Laura
        Laura
        November 2, 2023 at 1:36 am | #

        *axles

    • Bicycle Bill
      Bicycle Bill
      November 2, 2023 at 1:45 am | #

      At the U-Wisconsin branch where I used to work, most students had a microwave in their rooms, and crockpots and the occasional hotplate could also be found.  I’m just wondering how students keep their foodstuffs separate and secure if that refrigerator in the rear is the only thing they have to keep cold things (like butter) cold.

  18. ian livs
    ian livs
    November 2, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    Okay, but penultimate panel Carla reacts exactly how I and most of my trans friends would react to that statement, lol

  19. Raen
    Raen
    November 2, 2023 at 12:08 am | #

    Wait, Carla’s blonde?

    • clif
      clif
      November 2, 2023 at 1:36 am | #

      Secretly blond. So don’t tell anyone.

  20. Nono
    Nono
    November 2, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    Not a secret trans person, Joyce. Like… you can google this. It was big news.

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      November 2, 2023 at 12:46 am | #

      “who is a secret trans” probably going to return a transvestigation instructible.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        November 2, 2023 at 6:35 am | #

        Or the beginning of an Internet rabbit hole full of scum and villainy.

        • Mark
          Mark
          November 2, 2023 at 10:05 pm | #

          A virtual Mos Eisley?

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      November 2, 2023 at 8:14 am | #

      But only by googling everyone she knows. From what Dorothy said, it’s not even clear the secret trans person is on their floor. Could be someone she knows from a class or something.

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        November 2, 2023 at 2:27 pm | #

        “Robin DeSanto secret trans” is probably going to return some pages. you know, Robin is probably the best person Joyce could ask too personal questions to.

  21. Qube
    Qube
    November 2, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    I doubt carla knows much

    • Raen
      Raen
      November 2, 2023 at 1:17 am | #

      I have to think, ultimately she’s going to say something along the lines of “what do you mean you didn’t know?!”

  22. Rikunda
    Rikunda
    November 2, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    Carla looks amazing today.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      November 2, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

      Yeah, she is always cute, but this another really good look for her.

      • Laura
        Laura
        November 2, 2023 at 1:24 am | #

        As in, rockin’ a rockin’ bod! Out, loud, and proud. 😀

        • Laura
          Laura
          November 2, 2023 at 1:24 am | #

          Oops, sorry! Wrong avvy for that comment!

          • Laura
            Laura
            November 2, 2023 at 1:41 am | #

            (Joyce knows what I’m talking about.)

            https://www.dumbingofage.com/2023/comic/book-13/02-turning-saints-into-the-sea/bigger-2/

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      November 2, 2023 at 6:37 am | #

      Add an unbuttoned plaid button-down and she’d be unstoppable.

  23. TDKnave
    TDKnave
    November 2, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

    Anyone else alarmed by what Carla could possibly need butter for?

    • Tan
      Tan
      November 2, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

      Alarmed, no. Anticipatorily curious, yes.

    • UrsulaDavina
      UrsulaDavina
      November 2, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

      A Pie.

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      November 2, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

      Grilled cheese, maybe? Though her taking it with her out of this area is a bit odder. Uhh, maybe she already has food in her room and just wants to put butter on it?

      • UrsulaDavina
        UrsulaDavina
        November 2, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

        Perhaps popcorn.

        • Wack'd
          Wack'd
          November 2, 2023 at 1:19 am | #

          perhaps to get supplies

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      November 2, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

      She’s getting ready to perform oral sex, but she’s not very familiar with the process.

      • clif
        clif
        November 2, 2023 at 1:43 am | #

        When it comes to oral sex using butter, I too am unfamiliar with the process.

        It sounds complex. Yotomoe would probably have to illustrate the process before I could comprehend it.

    • milu
      milu
      November 2, 2023 at 12:30 am | #

      Space cookies. Do americans call them space cookies? Or is that one of those fake loanwords

      • BarerMender
        BarerMender
        November 2, 2023 at 12:42 am | #

        This American has never heard of space cookies. Space ham, yes. Space cookies, no.

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        November 2, 2023 at 12:57 am | #

        pot cookies? It’s been a long time since I hung out with stoners, but when I did most baked goods with pot in them were “pot …”
        except pie.

        • milu
          milu
          November 2, 2023 at 1:23 am | #

          right pot cookies. so it is some weird fake french anglicism meant to sound ???cool?????

          • Laura
            Laura
            November 2, 2023 at 1:27 am | #

            Dutch, too.

          • HueSatLight
            HueSatLight
            November 2, 2023 at 2:12 am | #

            how gauche. 😉

            • milu
              milu
              November 2, 2023 at 7:04 am | #

              Or as we say in france: c’est cringe 😉

          • NGPZ
            NGPZ
            November 2, 2023 at 2:20 am | #

            In the US we sometimes call cannabis candies space gummies LOL

            But according to bonus strips, Carla ain’t gonna share weed with anyone on account of how expensive it is.

            We just have to wait and see if that includes Charlie I guess hehehe.

            (but even if it is pot cookies she probably wouldn’t be baking it in the dorm on account of the smell, unless of course she just infusing a microdoses via cannabis butter into a simple glaze or something…)

            • Zero
              Zero
              November 2, 2023 at 3:19 am | #

              If she was baking anything she’d be staying in the kitchen, not collecting butter and then leaving.

              • NGPZ
                NGPZ
                November 2, 2023 at 3:22 am | #

                Her single room has it’s own kitchenette, no?

      • Bittersweet
        Bittersweet
        November 2, 2023 at 7:46 am | #

        In the US, I’ve only heard Space to mean a pot baked good that had like shroom’ icing or some shroom component to it. And that’s only because I watched a thing on Amsterdam, so idek if they’d actually be called that here lol.

    • Raen
      Raen
      November 2, 2023 at 1:20 am | #

      I think I’m going to go with Occam on this one and say “bread.”

    • Zero
      Zero
      November 2, 2023 at 3:17 am | #

      An excuse to enter the kitchen after overhearing Dorothy and Joyce.

    • Vulcanodon
      Vulcanodon
      November 2, 2023 at 10:07 am | #

      Mac ‘n cheese?

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      November 2, 2023 at 5:25 pm | #

      She’s going on a quest for Booster to Baba Yaga’s hut, and needs the butter to grease the gate.

    • Mturtle7
      Mturtle7
      November 2, 2023 at 9:26 pm | #

      Intrigued more than alarmed, but yes.

      Initially, I just assumed it was for a weird gadget and/or prank, but @HueSatLught’s comment has reminded me that Carla’s arc in this storyline is all about her totally-not-a-courtship of Charlie, Booster’s sister. So now I’m guessing pie. …Which she’s somehow not making in the kitchen? Hm. Definitely has to be SOMETHING Charlie-related, though.

      • David DeLaney
        David DeLaney
        November 3, 2023 at 2:25 pm | #

        i am alarmed at the number of commenters who are NOT immediately saying “oh, if it’s Carla, it’s gotta be a pie”

        –Dave, i mean, we haven’t even GOTTEN to the creampies part of the conversation, and there’s only so much time, people

  24. Tan
    Tan
    November 2, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

    Carla got what she wanted, and also learned that she was the topic of discussion unprompted, and so also got what she wanted.

    Today has been a good day for Carla.

  25. Suet
    Suet
    November 2, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

    *flippant* Jocelyn? Her saga was on national news?

    Would both conventions even have a sizeable following?

  26. UrsulaDavina
    UrsulaDavina
    November 2, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

    As long as Carla is center of everyone’s attention Carla is happy.

  27. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    November 2, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

    Carla’s pretty hot.

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      November 2, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

      RIGHT?

      • Mark
        Mark
        November 2, 2023 at 7:23 am | #

        RIGHT!

    • Mturtle7
      Mturtle7
      November 2, 2023 at 9:30 pm | #

      Your statement is axiomatic, of course!

      Though also, I did kinda notice she’s in a more revealing outfit here than usual. Guns out, cleavage showing, the works. Which obviously helps make the punchline here that much funnier!

  28. Pun-ter the Harharharbarian
    Pun-ter the Harharharbarian
    November 2, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

    I was gonna make the joke “Carla isn’t trans, she’s transformer!”, hyperlink-referencing her being Ultra Car in Shortpacked!, but to my shock, when looking up Ultra Car on the Shortpacked! website there weren’t even any one-offs of Ultra Car as a transformer to be found. If I’m wrong and it was just my laziness that made me fail the Investigation check, I welcome being proven incorrect.

    • David DeLaney
      David DeLaney
      November 3, 2023 at 2:28 pm | #

      oh NOW you’ve invoked Rule 34

      –Dave, and we’re on the internet so it goes meta immediately

  29. sdrainbow
    sdrainbow
    November 2, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

    Huh.

    This really should trigger my “ugh, fuck off” senses, but this one comes off more as “this is my bit”. Maybe I’m growing. Maybe Carla is.

    Also the second to last panel is very cute.

  30. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    November 2, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

    Oh Dorothy, your restraint is to be envied.

    Carla, your everything is to be envied, as it should be.

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      November 2, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

      Not bad, but not Sal.

      • Kyrik Michalowski
        Kyrik Michalowski
        November 2, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

        Not Sal.

        • Kyrik Michalowski
          Kyrik Michalowski
          November 2, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

          Not Sal, but Sal inspired.

          • Kyrik Michalowski
            Kyrik Michalowski
            November 2, 2023 at 12:20 am | #

            No.

            • Kyrik Michalowski
              Kyrik Michalowski
              November 2, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

              No, but better than Asher.

              • Kyrik Michalowski
                Kyrik Michalowski
                November 2, 2023 at 12:24 am | #

                Last try tonight.

                • Kyrik Michalowski
                  Kyrik Michalowski
                  November 2, 2023 at 12:24 am | #

                  It ends as it began.

                • NGPZ
                  NGPZ
                  November 2, 2023 at 4:19 pm | #

                  What are the odds?

                  ~19.4% after 6 rolls.

      • milu
        milu
        November 2, 2023 at 12:24 am | #

        I have perpetrated further fansmut: behold! (Nsfw~)

        (previous episode, i guess)

        • milu
          milu
          November 2, 2023 at 12:25 am | #

          That was not meant to go here. Hey Kyrik

          • Kyrik Michalowski
            Kyrik Michalowski
            November 2, 2023 at 12:33 am | #

            Hello, and I’m happy it did. I was about to close my browser, but now I didn’t miss it.

        • Kyrik Michalowski
          Kyrik Michalowski
          November 2, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

          I approve of all of this.

        • NGPZ
          NGPZ
          November 2, 2023 at 12:30 am | #

          They just keep coming… 🤘😈

          *plays “Awaken (Pillar Men Theme) EPIC Version” by Samuel Kim on hacked muzak*

  31. Call Me Deacon Blues
    Call Me Deacon Blues
    November 2, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

    Wait, Carla is trans?! But isn’t she rich? I’m pretty sure it’s been established that she was rich, and as we all know, a character can’t be more than one thing.

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      November 2, 2023 at 12:35 am | #

      So Mary can’t be both a bongo and a conga? We have to pick one or the other?

      • TulipKitten
        TulipKitten
        November 2, 2023 at 5:21 pm | #

        I wonder if you said bongo and conga or bongo and congo.

        • TulipKitten
          TulipKitten
          November 2, 2023 at 5:22 pm | #

          ^ well you know which order I made them

  32. HueSatLight
    HueSatLight
    November 2, 2023 at 12:20 am | #

    Her hair’s down. She wears it both up and down, but she was wearing it up talking to Booster. Is she going to use actual butter for hair butter? That can be the only logical conclusion.

  33. milu
    milu
    November 2, 2023 at 12:28 am | #

    hrm hrm take two.
    …behold! nsfw!

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      November 2, 2023 at 12:33 am | #

      At this rate you will certainly cause people here to fail No Nut November, that’s for sure! XD

      • milu
        milu
        November 2, 2023 at 7:00 am | #

        Legal disclaimer: the author will not be held responsible for any nutting being performed by, with, upon or around the viewer.

    • milu
      milu
      November 2, 2023 at 1:22 am | #

      ugh i bungled the link this time?!

      anyway i’m reuploading it all in one post so here it is and this is 100% definitely probably my last comment tonight ugh blegh

      behold, or whatever

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        November 2, 2023 at 2:07 am | #

        Haha that’s how Malaya would say it.
        ALSO NICE. Dig the sunglasses haha

        • milu
          milu
          November 2, 2023 at 6:57 am | #

          Hehe. Thank you sensei 🙏

      • Amós Batista
        Amós Batista
        November 2, 2023 at 6:39 pm | #

        great profanity, I loved it

        • milu
          milu
          November 2, 2023 at 8:34 pm | #

          thanks! um, profanity? where
          (did i do a profanity without realizing, entirely possible)

          • Li
            Li
            November 2, 2023 at 11:53 pm | #

            I think as in a synonym for obscenity which itself can be used to mean pornography 🙂

  34. Segnosaur
    Segnosaur
    November 2, 2023 at 12:34 am | #

    I wonder if it has started to cross Dorothy’s mind… “Should I continue to respect Carla’s privacy or should I let Joyce know so she doesn’t accidentally say something offensive” (Not that Joyce would do so out of malice, but its a new experience for her to deal with.)

    • Bash
      Bash
      November 2, 2023 at 2:33 am | #

      I think she is more concerned that joyce would say something well-meaning but offensive if she DID know it was Carla.

    • Amelie Wikström
      Amelie Wikström
      November 2, 2023 at 6:52 am | #

      If Dorothy tells her, she’ll be the one who enabled whatever happens next. That’s probably a bigger concern than privacy at this point. “It was national news” but “I’m not gonna tell you if you act this weird.”

  35. milu
    milu
    November 2, 2023 at 12:34 am | #

    I heard there was a secret trans
    That david made and it pleased the crowd
    But joyce can’t really read the comments can she

    • Laura
      Laura
      November 2, 2023 at 1:33 am | #

      Rock on!

      “And even though it posted wrong,
      You’ll stand right there, Prez, with heart in song,
      and nothing on, because that’s how Joyce drew ya…”

      • StClair
        StClair
        November 2, 2023 at 2:38 am | #

        I hate you both now.

        (not really)

      • milu
        milu
        November 2, 2023 at 6:56 am | #

        Haha <3

    • David DeLaney
      David DeLaney
      November 3, 2023 at 2:30 pm | #

      *pleased the fans

      –Dave, I hate my-self fo-or lo-ving this

  36. Jamie
    Jamie
    November 2, 2023 at 12:38 am | #

    Who was the future-seeing person who anticipated Carla coming in for some instant ramen? You should win something.

  37. PirateTawnee
    PirateTawnee
    November 2, 2023 at 12:40 am | #

    I want to make a comment about there being no spooooky transgenders around, what with this being November now, but that makes no sense in comic time, and I have no idea what day it is on campus either.

  38. fireprincesslily
    fireprincesslily
    November 2, 2023 at 12:41 am | #

    Carla is an inspiration

  39. milu
    milu
    November 2, 2023 at 12:42 am | #

    They win one (1) basking in Carla’s presence!

    • milu
      milu
      November 2, 2023 at 12:44 am | #

      Goddammit website/phone/brain
      Ok back to sleep with me

  40. Alongcameaspider
    Alongcameaspider
    November 2, 2023 at 12:52 am | #

    I wonder if Joyce came to her for help figuring out who the secret transgender is would Carla play along for amusement or just instantly tell Joyce it’s her

    Given it was a huge news story is probably doesn’t even occur to Carla someone might not know she’s trans

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      November 2, 2023 at 1:43 am | #

      Assuming Carla did not instinctively reveal it was her before recognizing the opportunity for hijinks she’d probably do some sort of bit, although overt transphobia does seem to be something that does knock Carla off her game a bit

    • Dean
      Dean
      November 2, 2023 at 1:45 am | #

      Carla would probably sit down with Joyce and a list to ‘help’ her work out who it is.

  41. AbacusWizard
    AbacusWizard
    November 2, 2023 at 12:52 am | #

    Shortpacked, Book 17: Your Short Bespectacled Blonde Convention About Whatever

  42. BBCC
    BBCC
    November 2, 2023 at 1:05 am | #

    Yeah, I think Carla might have a hunch or two who it is.

    • BBCC
      BBCC
      November 2, 2023 at 1:05 am | #

      Uh uh. Not doing that.

  43. Azu
    Azu
    November 2, 2023 at 1:20 am | #

    Carla dyes her hair?

    • Azu
      Azu
      November 2, 2023 at 1:20 am | #

      ^ he said, suddenly acquiring a Carla profile pic lol

  44. Freezer
    Freezer
    November 2, 2023 at 1:23 am | #

    I was under the impression that Carla’s trans status was an open secret: Not everyone knows, but she won’t bother to hide it, if one inquires directly. Am I incorrect in this?

    • miz
      miz
      November 2, 2023 at 1:39 am | #

      that is literally the joke in this subplot, yes.

    • Bash
      Bash
      November 2, 2023 at 2:32 am | #

      I’d say that’s a good reading on it, yeah. But Joyce doesn’t know and Dorothy thinks she would be weird about it, so she doesn’t want to say anything.

    • C.T. Phipps
      C.T. Phipps
      November 2, 2023 at 4:22 pm | #

      It’s not even an open secret because it’s not a secret.

    • Mturtle7
      Mturtle7
      November 2, 2023 at 9:36 pm | #

      I get the impression that Dorothy is solely holding back the information because she (somewhat justifiably) feels like it would be gauche to tell someone who doesn’t already know about Carla’s queer status. And this is absolutely going to end up biting her in the ass at some point.

  45. HueSatLight
    HueSatLight
    November 2, 2023 at 2:22 am | #

    Dorothy handling Carla walking in exceptionally smooth.

  46. TheCozburger
    TheCozburger
    November 2, 2023 at 3:22 am | #

    Oh Joyce sweety honey no…

  47. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    November 2, 2023 at 3:40 am | #

    She absolutely knows, Joyce.

  48. adam Black
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    November 2, 2023 at 4:00 am | #

    Damnit I hate accidentally flagging ppl.

    Update please.

    Now I have swollen joints and guilt.

    Maybe everyone can FLAG my comment to get seen. I deserve it

    • milu
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      November 2, 2023 at 6:55 am | #

      I flagged you, hope this helps <3
      (Ps take it easy flagging doesn't really do anything lol)

      • Adam Black
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        November 2, 2023 at 12:12 pm | #

        Thanks. I probably feel guilty for procrastinating important stuff, deadlines so I have to accept trivial punishment where I find it

    • Needfuldoer
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      November 2, 2023 at 9:11 am | #

      It takes something like five separate devices flagging a post to have any effect.

      Then all that happens is the post gets bumped into a moderation queue, and if it’s benign Willis will approve it. Then it reappears exactly where it was, but the Flag link will be un-clickable text that says “Moderated” so the post can’t get flagged again.

      • Adam Black
        Adam Black
        November 2, 2023 at 12:13 pm | #

        I guess I need 3 more

    • Mym
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      November 2, 2023 at 3:37 pm | #

      I accidentally flag people all the time, fat thumbs and all. It’s never taken a comment down, dw

  49. The Jighole Man
    The Jighole Man
    November 2, 2023 at 4:25 am | #

    “secret”
    my concern for joyce grows by the day

  50. Da Boy
    Da Boy
    November 2, 2023 at 4:50 am | #

    Dotty’s urge to dope slap Joyce as her Straight Man. rises XD

  51. morleuca
    morleuca
    November 2, 2023 at 5:19 am | #

    It is multiversally impossible for me to love today’s strip more.

  52. Chris
    Chris
    November 2, 2023 at 5:35 am | #

    Yep, saw this one coming a mile away. Mebbe two. Through the snow. Uphill both ways. yada yada… oh wait, that’s sex, never mind, these aren’t the droids you seek.

  53. davidbreslin101
    davidbreslin101
    November 2, 2023 at 7:13 am | #

    Well, that went about 3000% better than it had any right to.

  54. Lamppost
    Lamppost
    November 2, 2023 at 7:47 am | #

    Carla looks great!

    • J.Gawain
      J.Gawain
      November 2, 2023 at 8:08 am | #

      I agree! I think she looks especially great in panel 4!

  55. Alan in DC
    Alan in DC
    November 2, 2023 at 9:02 am | #

    Dorothy: “Is there a melon baller in one of the kitchen drawers?”
    Joyce: “Here, I found one. What do you need it for?”
    Dorothy: “To scoop my eyeballs back in.” (see the fifth frame)

  56. Hof1991
    Hof1991
    November 2, 2023 at 9:23 am | #

    That’s nearly a triangle grin on Carla.

  57. bcb
    bcb
    November 2, 2023 at 9:27 am | #

    No, Carla only knows about the non-secret trans person. The one who knows about the secret trans person is Jocelyn. And Ethan, he knows too.

  58. Heavensrun
    Heavensrun
    November 2, 2023 at 9:56 am | #

    Waitaminnit.

    Carla’s a BLONDE???

  59. Mr. Random
    Mr. Random
    November 2, 2023 at 10:11 am | #

    Honest non-committal answer:
    Carla barely pays attention to anyone beyond herself.

  60. Caro
    Caro
    November 2, 2023 at 10:12 am | #

    i keep forgetting carla’s blonde

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      November 2, 2023 at 7:05 pm | #

      same here heh 😮

  61. milu
    milu
    November 2, 2023 at 10:57 am | #

    More to the point: do you think if i asked her Carla would not pounce on the prime trolling possibilities this would afford her

  62. Nothri
    Nothri
    November 2, 2023 at 11:02 am | #

    ::laugh track plays, followed by clapping and the dumbing of age theme song as the credits roll::

  63. DashWallkick
    DashWallkick
    November 2, 2023 at 11:39 am | #

    Carla lookin’ good lately, I wonder if this is related to that “does Carla look bigger to you?” comment Joyce had earlier. If she’s so oblivious she sees Carla developing in her too-late second puberty and goes “huh, that’s weird” and never thinks about it.

    • Arian
      Arian
      November 3, 2023 at 4:18 am | #

      When did Carla transition? Do we know she had a “first” puberty? What’s the good of being a billionaire if you can’t access puberty blockers?

  64. Scolopendra
    Scolopendra
    November 2, 2023 at 11:56 am | #

    I love it when this happens to me personally. I’m more shocked that Carla is BLONDE WTF

  65. Hilzabub
    Hilzabub
    November 2, 2023 at 12:11 pm | #

    If nothing else, at least we got another few panels with Carla.

    She really needs her own spin-off strip or something.

    • Mym
      Mym
      November 2, 2023 at 3:35 pm | #

      Idk if the world could handle that. Too beautiful.

  66. Kaiyalai
    Kaiyalai
    November 2, 2023 at 12:58 pm | #

    Joyce is adorable.

    Also I really wish I could see her sister taking a more central role in the comic… but that would be a different comic. (Which I would also read for over a decade.)

  67. HoopsieDaisy
    HoopsieDaisy
    November 2, 2023 at 2:21 pm | #

    Is this the friendliest Carla’s ever been? Is Carla being legitimately half-charming here?

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      November 2, 2023 at 7:37 pm | #

      She’s frequently friendly, behind a layer of being obnoxious. For example, she loaned Sarah the use of a car to take her sister back to Muncie, “as a prank”. Her obnoxiousness has been emphasized since the timeskip, possibly for narrative purposes.

    • Schpoonman
      Schpoonman
      November 2, 2023 at 11:32 pm | #

      This may be the most sincere Carla’s ever been in the comic. Even more than when she hit Mary with a pie.

  68. Daniel M Ball
    Daniel M Ball
    November 2, 2023 at 2:38 pm | #

    heheheh… Carla, do a victory lap.

  69. MiaFillene
    MiaFillene
    November 2, 2023 at 2:51 pm | #

    I fell in love with a wonderful, beautiful transgender lady. And I was too damn stupid to work out my feelings for her before she moved away. I can’t just go after her, much as my heart wants. It’s painful, and it sucks royally. But there it is. Don’t ever let the one you love get away from you, okay?

    • Mym
      Mym
      November 2, 2023 at 3:34 pm | #

      Why can’t you go after her? Unless you never got her name or number, I suppose….

    • TulipKitten
      TulipKitten
      November 2, 2023 at 5:17 pm | #

      Dammit, Mia. Go after her! Figure out the details later.

    • Mark
      Mark
      November 2, 2023 at 10:13 pm | #

      Truer words were never spoken.

  70. Mym
    Mym
    November 2, 2023 at 3:33 pm | #

    Alright, at least this one made me laugh.

  71. thumb
    thumb
    November 2, 2023 at 4:28 pm | #

    hijinks ensue

  72. Yeet
    Yeet
    November 2, 2023 at 8:09 pm | #

    man y’know joyce was totally staring at carla’s boobs in that one strip talking about her getting “bigger” so maybe she has been corrupted

  73. Ed Rhodes
    Ed Rhodes
    November 2, 2023 at 9:59 pm | #

    I showed this trip to my kid, and he did a perfect “Obi-wan Kenobi” and said; “Of course I know her… she’s me!”

  74. Opus the Poet
    Opus the Poet
    November 2, 2023 at 10:06 pm | #

    If you transition early enough the only way they know is if you tell them.

  75. Diane
    Diane
    November 2, 2023 at 11:36 pm | #

    I just noticed how much mac and cheese Joyce has left and I am insulted. I’m stealing the bowl and eating the rest myself, cooties be damned. (And gravitar roulette cause I’m not fond of mafia boy)

  76. JA
    JA
    November 2, 2023 at 11:37 pm | #

    Carla needs to leave her hair down more. Normally I’m all for ponytails, but this look really works for her.

  77. Vukodlak
    Vukodlak
    November 3, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    Never thought Captain Obvious would be so needed.

  78. Arian
    Arian
    November 3, 2023 at 12:55 am | #

    In Australia, butter comes in 250 gram blocks. I have heard the expression “stick of butter” before, but this is the first time I’ve seen one.

  79. Adept
    Adept
    November 3, 2023 at 1:21 pm | #

    Carla’s growing on me. She must be in a good mood.

  80. Hinoron
    Hinoron
    November 4, 2023 at 11:25 am | #

    Is Joyce considered “blonde”? Her hair is the colour of a glass of chocolate milk.

  81. Kazuma Taichi
    Kazuma Taichi
    November 4, 2023 at 11:55 am | #

    TIL that Carla isn’t a natural redhead

  82. Felian
    Felian
    November 5, 2023 at 6:23 pm | #

    Joyce, STOP.
    There is literally no need for you to know who’s trans and who isn’t. Until you are at the point where knowing does not make you treat them differently, you don’t really need to know. Just treat everyone as people and don’t assume things like their gender about them.

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