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by David M Willis on October 27, 2023 at 12:01 am
  • 01 – Everybody's Looking for Nothing
└ Tags: dorothy, joyce

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  1. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    October 27, 2023 at 12:01 am | #

    Uh-oh. Mother doesn’t immediately disapprove? What?

    Is this reverse psychology?

    • Danae Jay, Local Gay
      Danae Jay, Local Gay
      October 27, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

      The more Joyce smooches Joe the less likely Dotty is to enter in a torrid love affair with her, or at least this is what I’d like to imagine Dorothy’s logic to be.

      • Mark
        Mark
        October 27, 2023 at 6:49 am | #

        Dorothy is thinking, “if that keeps up, the readers may stop shipping Joyce and me, and the biggest source of pressure in my life will have vanished, yay!”

        • Gbz
          Gbz
          October 27, 2023 at 8:12 am | #

          Are you saying Dorothy has awareness beyond the 4th wall and that knowledge affects her mood?

          • Harmony
            Harmony
            October 27, 2023 at 2:34 pm | #

            She has mentioned that to pursue her goals she has to be perfect in every way.

            • Gbz
              Gbz
              October 30, 2023 at 8:53 am | #

              Lol l

        • Ed Callahan
          Ed Callahan
          October 27, 2023 at 9:05 am | #

          The strip’s cast can’t help but be aware of how demanding the fan base is

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      October 27, 2023 at 12:25 am | #

      She did grant her blessing already. I imagine she’d have been less keen on it like an in-universe week ago, but she’s moved past her initial concerns/anger.

      • findus
        findus
        October 27, 2023 at 1:54 am | #

        She’d have been less keen on it a week ago, but now she’s Keener.

        • Mark
          Mark
          October 27, 2023 at 6:46 am | #

          🙂

        • Nicoleandmaggie
          Nicoleandmaggie
          October 27, 2023 at 1:21 pm | #

          Booo

          • clif
            clif
            October 27, 2023 at 3:46 pm | #

            Hisss!

            (I’m hissing because findus did it first.)

    • Shade
      Shade
      October 27, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

      She got over that already after seeing them together.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        October 27, 2023 at 12:33 am | #

        I forgot about that in my haste and excitement to post first.

        (Though it could still be reverse psychology. “Fine, go ahead and make mistakes; I’ll be here to catch you with an ‘I told you so’.”)

        • Daibhid C
          Daibhid C
          October 27, 2023 at 4:42 am | #

          Yeah, she’s a sneaky one, that Dorothy.

          Do we think she was faking the whole mental breakdown in order to make this more convincing, or just the parts where she specifically stated she no longer wanted to be the judgemental “mom friend”?

          • Needfuldoer
            Needfuldoer
            October 27, 2023 at 6:29 am | #

            Wait, voicing disapproval (and low-key trying to dissuade you by planting a seed of doubt) with a passive-aggressive “well, okaayy…” isn’t a universal mom experience?

            • Daibhid C
              Daibhid C
              October 28, 2023 at 6:30 am | #

              Possibly. If it is, that would be all the more reason for a Dorothy who is trying not to be the mom friend not to do it.

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      October 27, 2023 at 12:37 am | #

      She’s getting rewarded with Joyce freaking out. After that buzz wears off, maybe she’ll be ok with it, maybe she’ll be heartbroken, time will tell.

      • Daibhid C
        Daibhid C
        October 27, 2023 at 4:24 am | #

        Dorothy is okay with it in panel 1. Joyce starts freaking out in panel 3.

    • Decidedly Orthogonal
      Decidedly Orthogonal
      October 27, 2023 at 9:47 am | #

      Well Dorothy, have you considered that kissing girls is how *I* became a lesbian?

      –Me (a guy) 😉

    • Heavensrun
      Heavensrun
      October 27, 2023 at 3:59 pm | #

      Dotty already processed that there’s nothing wrong with Joe and Joyce’s relationship. The only real way I could see her being bothered by it would be motivated by possessiveness, be they romantic or platonic feelings. But honestly I don’t see Dotty reacting that way either way.

    • Erica
      Erica
      October 28, 2023 at 7:22 pm | #

      Honestly I’m kind of annoyed at Dorothy downplaying this hugely important moment for joyce. This is super big, Dorothy should be congratulating her, not just “well you’re supposed to be”

  2. Ana Chronistic
    Ana Chronistic
    October 27, 2023 at 12:01 am | #

    Joyce is good at maths, so she understands the transitive properties of sexuality 🤔

    • Frelance
      Frelance
      October 27, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

      the what? those characters aren’t in the tags!

    • Proxiehunter
      Proxiehunter
      October 27, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

      She understands it because it’s the kind of thing that you learn in religiously oriented abstinence only sex ed.

      • UrsulaDavina
        UrsulaDavina
        October 27, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

        So fundamentalist suck at both Math and Sociology.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      October 27, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

      Smoochin’ by proxy.

    • UrsulaDavina
      UrsulaDavina
      October 27, 2023 at 12:26 am | #

      I beleive ones sexuality is not subject to the transitive property.

      • Ryan
        Ryan
        October 27, 2023 at 1:53 am | #

        The transitive property of sex is that when one has unprotected intercourse, one is potentially exposed to every* STD of every prior partner and their prior partners and their prior partner… It’s STDs all the way down.

        Joyce is just (mis)applying this to kissing.

        *viral ones and untreated non-viral ones

        • Mark
          Mark
          October 27, 2023 at 6:51 am | #

          She’s creatively over-extending the model.

        • UrsulaDavina
          UrsulaDavina
          October 27, 2023 at 10:14 pm | #

          Sex is the act of coitus, sexuality is the way people experience and express themselves sexually.

          • Ryan
            Ryan
            October 28, 2023 at 1:14 am | #

            I apologize for misreading you.

    • InTheory
      InTheory
      October 27, 2023 at 1:38 pm | #

      My worldview has been forever changed by her impeccable. brilliant logic.

  3. Animedingo
    Animedingo
    October 27, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    Only somewhat

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      October 27, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

      Herpes it doesn’t just get on people’s nerves – it gets in them (forever).

      Honestly, I don’t know how Joyce isn’t having a panic attack. I mean Joe is probably a carrier for typhoid by now.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        October 27, 2023 at 12:58 am | #

        Maybe he’s a collection of every disease and malady known to humanity (and more currently unknown), but they’re all perfectly balanced fighting each other so he’s asymptomatic.

        Kind of like Mr. Burns.

      • Pergola
        Pergola
        October 27, 2023 at 1:12 pm | #

        Joe must now be dunked in carbolic acid.

  4. Dara
    Dara
    October 27, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    “Joyce. No. So much more’s the pity.”

    • Tisiphone
      Tisiphone
      October 27, 2023 at 2:36 am | #

      Yeah Dotty’s expression in that last panel is just so affectionate… she truly loves the trainwreck that is Joyce… maybe in 2033 Joyce will realize she’s bisexual or something.

  5. Mym
    Mym
    October 27, 2023 at 12:02 am | #

    Becky has to come in now to rectify that SHE is in fact the biggest lesbian

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      October 27, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

      She’s going to run through a wall like the Kool-Aid Man

      • pope suburban
        pope suburban
        October 27, 2023 at 12:47 am | #

        I was unironically expecting this and feel vindicated that I am not the only one.

        • Aura
          Aura
          October 27, 2023 at 2:26 am | #

          I’m still surprised DYW didn’t go for it. Maybe next strip?

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      October 27, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

      I feel like Joyce is taller, though.

      • Jamie
        Jamie
        October 27, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

        … huh. I’m Asher now? Not sure how I feel about that.

        • Sirksome
          Sirksome
          October 27, 2023 at 12:39 am | #

          I’m not sure how I feel about Asher either. No one is. That’s your burden now. Heavy is the toll of the Asher icon.

          • clif
            clif
            October 27, 2023 at 3:56 pm | #

            Nothing to be done about it. You’re stuck being identified with Asher for now until the end of eternity.

            If only there were something simple you could do to change it.

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        October 27, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

        If she is it’s not by any significant amount.

    • Chaucer59
      Chaucer59
      October 27, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

      You think? I would have said Carla.

      • Switchchris
        Switchchris
        October 27, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

        If Carla would stop denying her attraction to a woman I would agree lol. But no Becky is the most openly and flamboyant lesbian I have seen in fiction, unless im forgetting some people.

        • Cholma
          Cholma
          October 27, 2023 at 12:21 am | #

          I think Carla just can’t stand being ignored by someone. People are supposed to bask in awesomeness or burn with the hatred of a thousand suns. Complete non-recognition? That must not stand.

        • Jon S.
          Jon S.
          October 27, 2023 at 3:26 am | #

          Scandal Savage, in Gail Simone’s Secret Six book. She wound up marrying both of her girlfriends, after they recivered Knockout’s soul with the Get Out of Hell Free card

      • Cholma
        Cholma
        October 27, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

        Carla’s not a lesbian though; I think she’s Ace or maybe just Carla-sexual.

        • Daibhid C
          Daibhid C
          October 27, 2023 at 4:13 am | #

          Yeah, Willis has said that characters sexualities are the same as the Walkyverse, and UC says she’s a homoromantic ace.

          • Decidedly Orthogonal
            Decidedly Orthogonal
            October 27, 2023 at 9:59 am | #

            Yay, I get to be ignorant and hopefully learn by exposing said self-ignorance.

            Are “homoromantic ace”, and “lesbian” mutually exclusive? Does lesbian have to include swxual attraction, or is it sufficient that a woman is romantically attracted to women?

            Like, if I as a guy were ace, but still liked women romantically, that wouldn’t make me *not* “straight” would it? Isn’t degree of ace/sexual a seperate axis within sexuality than which gender(s) we’re attracted to (and the amounts and types thereof)

            • Decidedly Orthogonal
              Decidedly Orthogonal
              October 27, 2023 at 10:02 am | #

              And if my phrasing or example are offensive to any, please accept my apology. It’s early and I’m fuzzy, but that is not an excuse to be hurtful. Peace, love, solidarity.
              ✌❤✊

            • Ari
              Ari
              October 27, 2023 at 11:19 am | #

              The real answer is that it depends on the individual and how they choose to label themselves. That said, it’s pretty common for “homoromantic asexual women” to refer to themselves as lesbians or as asexual lesbians. It’s a bit less common for a “heteroromantic asexual man” to label himself as “straight,” though. Again, it’s up to the person, but to me that’s in the range of “definitely would not do without explicit permission from the individual”.

              There’s a couple reasons for that! Fundamentally, labels reflect which parts of our identity and experience are most salient in our current culture. A homoromantic asexual woman may have experienced a shared oppression with other lesbians (and also a shared culture, via lesbian art, events, history) and might choose to claim the lesbian label because of that. In contrast, a heteroromantic asexual man has likely been systematically excluded from large parts of straight male culture, particularly since so many of the expectations of straight masculinity focus on sex, specifically. He might not find the heteroromantic part of his identity as salient as the asexual part, and might not choose to identify as straight because of that. There’s also the stereotype of heteroromantic asexual people being “basically straight,” so it’s not polite to call someone that without their permission.

            • Mturtle7
              Mturtle7
              October 27, 2023 at 1:46 pm | #

              Respect for being excited about shedding ignorance and owning it! Also, honestly, this is just a really good question which lots of ace people struggle with ourselves. Ari provided a really good answer though, I got nothign to really add to it!

            • S.R.
              S.R.
              October 27, 2023 at 1:46 pm | #

              Reasonable question! There’s no straightforward answer, because it depends on what the person thinks feels right.

              Also, complicating things, some people will summarize their sexuality in the simplest possible word when talking to non-queer people, so I guarantee there are people who say “yeah, I’m a lesbian” to a fair number of folks and then “yeah, I’m homoromantic asexual” to queer folks who actually know what that /means/ and won’t need an explanation and hopefully won’t try to argue about whether it’s a thing.

          • Heavensrun
            Heavensrun
            October 27, 2023 at 4:02 pm | #

            That’s true, but Carla isn’t *exactly* Ultra-car. Like, UC was literally a robot, who exists as fiction in this world.

            That said, Carla does strongly identify with Ultra-Car the fictional character, so asexuality might be the trait that resonates with her.

          • Mark
            Mark
            October 27, 2023 at 6:10 pm | #

            Somehow I read “homoromantic” but thought what should be called “autoromantic”. Which makes perfect sense for Carla. Doubly so, I suppose, for Ultracar.

            • Mym
              Mym
              October 27, 2023 at 9:49 pm | #

              Her true sexuality is “roller skates”

        • Thag Simmons
          Thag Simmons
          October 27, 2023 at 4:28 pm | #

          Carla is a Girl who exclusively likes other Girls, so you could absolutely call her a Lesbian.

          • Mym
            Mym
            October 27, 2023 at 5:48 pm | #

            Not if she doesn’t claim being a lesbian, that was the whole point of most of these comments.

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      October 27, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

      Becky’s hairs are standing on end because she’s about to become a Super Lesbian 3.

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        October 27, 2023 at 10:03 am | #

        After that, will Nintendo finally release Super Lesbian World for the Super Fapicom system?

    • Slartibeast Button, BIA
      Slartibeast Button, BIA
      October 27, 2023 at 12:32 am | #

      Not to worry, Joyce can have the title of “College’s Biggest Bisexual.”

      • Jeff K!
        Jeff K!
        October 27, 2023 at 2:19 am | #

        Joyce is quite short, surely there’s quite a few bisexuals on campus who are bigger.

      • clif
        clif
        October 27, 2023 at 4:03 pm | #

        Canonically, Jennifer has a few pounds on her.

    • Mravac Kid
      Mravac Kid
      October 27, 2023 at 2:19 am | #

      Leslie: “Am I a joke to you?”

      • Mark
        Mark
        October 27, 2023 at 6:55 am | #

        Well, Leslie, you work in a comic strip, so….

      • Mturtle7
        Mturtle7
        October 27, 2023 at 1:49 pm | #

        “MY NAME IS LITERALLY ‘LESLIE BEAN’. HOW AM I NOT THE ‘BIGGEST LESBIAN’?!'”
        “Well, you’re old, so…”
        “I’M 26, GODDAMNIT.”

        • Mturtle7
          Mturtle7
          October 27, 2023 at 1:50 pm | #

          (caveat: I can’t actually remember how old Leslie is in-canon. I doubt she’s older than 30, though.)

  6. shadowcell
    shadowcell
    October 27, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    top ten, though, for sure

  7. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    October 27, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    Joyce shaves her legs? I’m surprised that doesn’t somehow make her a harlot.

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      October 27, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

      Well at least it does make her a hairlot.

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        October 27, 2023 at 12:10 am | #

        If she’s shaving, wouldn’t that stop her from being a hairlot?

        • True Survivor
          True Survivor
          October 27, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

          Aw man. I meant to type “doesn’t.” I keep rewriting and rethinking my comments trying to get them juusst right, only to pos them riddled residual errors. I really suck at proofreading. Thanks for the catch.

          • Decidedly Orthogonal
            Decidedly Orthogonal
            October 27, 2023 at 10:05 am | #

            It’s tough in a system that brokes no editting after. We are animals, imperfect in the time and place we inhabit. Go with love, and know you deserve it.

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      October 27, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

      I feel like there’s this vibe of “if you start shaving too young, you’re going to be a slut” but also, “if you’re not shaving your legs by a certain age, you’re going to look like a lesbian.” It’s one of those oh so fun balancing acts that put the sexuality of those AFAB on trial.

      • Masumi
        Masumi
        October 27, 2023 at 12:50 am | #

        … And yet another point according to which I would make an excellent lesbian. To bad I’m not XD

      • Laura
        Laura
        October 27, 2023 at 2:01 am | #

        That’s why I was all about the Nair in high school.

        • zee
          zee
          October 27, 2023 at 1:12 pm | #

          That’s why I’m all about Nair now. Well, no it’s because leg hair hurts in jeans. And it makes my hands all smooth and soft after I use it

          • zee
            zee
            October 27, 2023 at 1:13 pm | #

            Oh ew Malaya. No

    • Chaucer59
      Chaucer59
      October 27, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

      Recent revisions to evangelical doctrine: good girls shave their legs. Had girls wax. Bad girls wax EVERYTHING.

      • Decidedly Orthogonal
        Decidedly Orthogonal
        October 27, 2023 at 10:07 am | #

        “Had girls”

        Non-virgins have to wax?

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      October 27, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

      she wills her leghair to retract.

    • Quirdry Tawks
      Quirdry Tawks
      October 27, 2023 at 12:31 am | #

      Nah, honestly, I don’t think her autism (whatever flavor that may be) would permit her NOT to shave em. And I wouldn’t be at all surprised if she didn’t stop at the legs.

      • Bogeywoman
        Bogeywoman
        October 27, 2023 at 1:56 am | #

        This is my thinking, too. Body hair is often a sensory ick. My sister shaves Everything. I would, but the itching from regrowth is worse than the hair, so I just go out of my way not to have physical contact with my own body.

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      October 27, 2023 at 12:34 am | #

      Hey! Switching my gravatar worked! How about that!

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      October 27, 2023 at 2:44 am | #

      Nobody is shocked Joyce kisses her legs though.

      • clif
        clif
        October 27, 2023 at 4:08 pm | #

        Of course not. Wouldn’t you be willing to kiss her legs?

  8. Joe Moose
    Joe Moose
    October 27, 2023 at 12:03 am | #

    Joyce, you’re such a goof.

  9. Rororoyourboat
    Rororoyourboat
    October 27, 2023 at 12:04 am | #

    They really make a good pair.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      October 27, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

      Yeah it’s a standout dynamic in a comic which is not exactly hurting for strong character dynamics.

  10. Cholma
    Cholma
    October 27, 2023 at 12:06 am | #

    “Dina. Did you feel that?”
    “The exciting buzz of scientific achievement?”
    “No, not that! Although, that *was* good. I meant that I just sensed a disturbance in the LesbianForce.”

    • Slartibeast Button, BIA
      Slartibeast Button, BIA
      October 27, 2023 at 12:34 am | #

      LesbianForce? Was that comic Marvel or DC?

  11. EpochFlame
    EpochFlame
    October 27, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    dorothy missed joyce neuroses

    • Coatl
      Coatl
      October 27, 2023 at 12:23 am | #

      That smile in the last panel says “well, back to the status quo”

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        October 27, 2023 at 1:05 am | #

        I kind of suspect Joyce exaggerates her neuroses so Dorothy spends time with her, at least subconsciously. I don’t think this status quo can last.

        • Coatl
          Coatl
          October 27, 2023 at 2:37 am | #

          I may be exaggerating, but there are times when that appreciation that Joyce has with Dorothy, it has something possessive that at the moment has not reached something so murky.

  12. Bin
    Bin
    October 27, 2023 at 12:07 am | #

    So she is kissing all those girls. And all the boys they kissed. And that includes Roz, so that’s a lot of boys.

    To answer the question: YES.
    Also viruses. Obviously it varies. You have short term stuff (flu), long term stuff, eternal stuff, airborne and liquid based diseases, skin based diseases, and so on. Resistances vary too.

    This is how 28 Weeks Later started after all.

    • Angel
      Angel
      October 27, 2023 at 1:11 am | #

      lol that’d be an interesting realization too like “this means i’ve hooked up with roz too!” once they finally get together lol

      That said i’d assume joe hasn’t kissed anyone other than joyce recently (tho my first thought is herpes /cold sores lol)

      • Laura
        Laura
        October 27, 2023 at 2:11 am | #

        It seems like kissing is so much more fraught these days! In my teens and twenties, one could just kiss at the drop of a hat. I even attended one “Palentines Day” party (in July) that was just everyone kissing everybody, all the time. Bosses, coworkers — everyone.

        Now, with COVID, RSV, flu, herpes, oral HPV, MPox… there’s so much more to think about before puckering up!

        • tbf
          tbf
          October 27, 2023 at 7:41 am | #

          > In my teens and twenties, one could just kiss at the drop of a hat… everyone kissing everybody, all the time

          Was this a really long time ago or were you just part of a cool and sexy crowd?

          • Laura
            Laura
            October 27, 2023 at 8:40 am | #

            LOL, you’re silly. No, it really was a long time ago. x-D

            • Decidedly Orthogonal
              Decidedly Orthogonal
              October 27, 2023 at 10:13 am | #

              To get kisses at parties at the drop of a hat sounds like you’d also have to be, “part of a cool and sexy crowd.”

              • Laura
                Laura
                October 27, 2023 at 12:53 pm | #

                Or just a particularly inebriated crowd with some wild Palentine’s Day traditions! *Facepalm* *SMDH*

      • Rowen Morland
        Rowen Morland
        October 27, 2023 at 6:16 am | #

        You reckon we’ll have an “I missed the.lips.that missed you!” Moment of awkwardness?

  13. Yumi
    Yumi
    October 27, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    He still would have kissed more girls, since he also kissed Joyce.

    But also, purity culture fucking sucks! “You’re having sex with everyone that person has had sex with,” like no, actually, I’m not necessarily opposed to this organization scenario you’ve created, but that’s not what’s happening.

    • Yumi
      Yumi
      October 27, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

      *ORGY scenario, autocorrect is a prude

      • Amara
        Amara
        October 27, 2023 at 12:11 am | #

        No no, I’m now imagining a whole structural organization chart here. It’s a business these days!

        • cbwroses
          cbwroses
          October 27, 2023 at 12:16 am | #

          It’s important to keep your orgies organized.
          To keep your private parts properly prioritized.
          To keep the nipples neat and the testicles tidy.

          • Rowen Morland
            Rowen Morland
            October 27, 2023 at 6:21 am | #

            Maybe do a Kickstarter to get a whole office block devoted to the world’s largest* polycule and set yourself up as the concierge.

            *Until someone adds an antenna on top of theirs.

            • Decidedly Orthogonal
              Decidedly Orthogonal
              October 27, 2023 at 10:15 am | #

              Welcome to The Continental.

        • Slartibeast Button, BIA
          Slartibeast Button, BIA
          October 27, 2023 at 12:35 am | #

          The term is “Langdon Chart.”

          • Laura
            Laura
            October 27, 2023 at 2:17 am | #

            In college we called it a “sex web”. Same thing!

            • thejeff
              thejeff
              October 27, 2023 at 7:41 am | #

              There’s a certain amusement in figuring out who’s had vicarious sex as long you don’t take it too seriously.

              • Laura
                Laura
                October 27, 2023 at 8:46 am | #

                It gets even more fun when you realize that “sex” is about more than just intercourse. Once you start thinking about all the people whom everyone has had “sexy times” with, the world of who’s been with whom expands dramatically. *Sigh.*

    • Proxiehunter
      Proxiehunter
      October 27, 2023 at 12:12 am | #

      But if by kissing Joe she’s kissed all the girls he’s ever kissed then she’s also kissed Joyce.

      • Yumi
        Yumi
        October 27, 2023 at 12:15 am | #

        Joyce: Clone fucker

        • RassilonTDavros
          RassilonTDavros
          October 27, 2023 at 12:19 am | #

          AU where Anti-Joyce helps NotAnti-Joyce come to terms with her sexuality

          • Quirdry Tawks
            Quirdry Tawks
            October 27, 2023 at 12:33 am | #

            Wouldn’t the meeting of Anti-Joyce and NotAnti-Joyce cause a massive explosion?

            Or maybe just a massive erection…

            • cbwroses
              cbwroses
              October 27, 2023 at 12:39 am | #

              If I remember correctly it caused an explosion alright, but it wasn’t in the pants.

        • Slartibeast Button, BIA
          Slartibeast Button, BIA
          October 27, 2023 at 12:37 am | #

          Plays “My Clone Sleeps Alone” on hacked Muzak.

          • Laura
            Laura
            October 27, 2023 at 8:48 am | #

            “I think I’m a clone now. Always seems to be two of me around…’

        • Taffy
          Taffy
          October 27, 2023 at 1:14 am | #

          Begun, the Clone Worgy has.

    • Segnosaur
      Segnosaur
      October 27, 2023 at 12:49 am | #

      Actually you are forgetting when Becky kissed Joyce, something joe has obviously not done.

      And if you are still counting the transitive property, Joyce would have also kissed Becky’s old roommate (something else joe would not have done). So those 2 extra (lesbian) kisses still put Joyce in the lead.

      • Aura
        Aura
        October 27, 2023 at 2:33 am | #

        But now because of the transitive property, Joe has also kissed Becky and her old roommate!

  14. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    October 27, 2023 at 12:09 am | #

    I mean if we’re talking about on screen hookups I think Joe actually had a fairly reasonable hook up list. Roz, Penny, Malaya, I can’t think of anyone else. That’s three people. You could argue Walky would have the same number if ever hits it with Lucy.

    • zee
      zee
      October 27, 2023 at 1:17 pm | #

      He also kissed Liz even if they didn’t go much farther

    • Mturtle7
      Mturtle7
      October 27, 2023 at 1:54 pm | #

      It’s implied that he’s hooking up with a lot of people off-panel.

      Specifically, he’s hooking up with a new person in every time there’s a new panel published that he’s not in. He’s VERY efficient.

  15. Mada
    Mada
    October 27, 2023 at 12:13 am | #

    Alright Joyce; better start kissing Dorothy to check.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      October 27, 2023 at 12:18 am | #

      But then she’d be kissing Walky too.

      Tough decision on her part…

      • Coatl
        Coatl
        October 27, 2023 at 12:22 am | #

        Very bad for Joyce, hehe

      • DailyBrad
        DailyBrad
        October 27, 2023 at 12:27 am | #

        I was thinking if Walky had kissed anyone Joe would have kissed, and hilariously, Walky’s kissed like the three girls least likely to have any kind of intersection with Joe’s web of kisses.

        • HueSatLight
          HueSatLight
          October 27, 2023 at 1:34 am | #

          Walky’s interacted with Joe’s web of kisses now. Just not in the right chronological order.
          Joe->Joyce->Ethan->Amber->Walky

          • DailyBrad
            DailyBrad
            October 27, 2023 at 8:13 pm | #

            Ah, good catch.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          October 27, 2023 at 7:49 am | #

          Joe’s actually surprisingly disconnected from the main cast in kissy terms. Roz. Malaya and Penny. Roz does her hook ups away from the dorm it seems. Malaya brings in Marcie. (Right?Or are they still dancing around the attraction?)
          That’s basically it.
          Oh wait. Liz. Who brings in Sarah through whatshisname. Chris?

          • HueSatLight
            HueSatLight
            October 27, 2023 at 10:20 am | #

            Malaya has kissed Marcie.
            I like how the message in today’s strip is “kissing doesn’t work that way”, and our response is, “let’s make a chart!”

            • Pergola
              Pergola
              October 27, 2023 at 1:27 pm | #

              Somewhere Faz gets a boner and doesn’t know why.

              • Mark
                Mark
                October 27, 2023 at 6:17 pm | #

                Faz is used to this.

                • DailyBrad
                  DailyBrad
                  October 27, 2023 at 8:12 pm | #

                  Yeah, even if Faz wasn’t Faz, realistically, that’s likely going to happen regardless at that stage of development.

  16. HueSatLight
    HueSatLight
    October 27, 2023 at 12:14 am | #

    If kissing were transitive, Joe has kissed Becky, and Becky would never. Therefor, kissing isn’t transitive.

    • AbacusWizard
      AbacusWizard
      October 27, 2023 at 12:38 am | #

      By fire and forge, I love proof by contradiction so much.

    • Mym
      Mym
      October 27, 2023 at 12:50 am | #

      Pardon, when did Joyce and Becky kiss? Did that happen or did I misunderstand?

      • Sol
        Sol
        October 27, 2023 at 12:51 am | #

        When Becky came out to Joyce, she kissed her.

        • Mym
          Mym
          October 27, 2023 at 12:54 am | #

          Omg how could I forget?!?! I mean …there is a lot of canon tho. Anybody have the reference link to the comic she talks about it?

          • HueSatLight
            HueSatLight
            October 27, 2023 at 1:16 am | #

            https://www.dumbingofage.com/jealous/

            • HueSatLight
              HueSatLight
              October 27, 2023 at 1:17 am | #

              and when she talked about it
              https://www.dumbingofage.com/tool/

            • Taffy
              Taffy
              October 27, 2023 at 1:25 am | #

              Thank you much.

      • Masumi
        Masumi
        October 27, 2023 at 12:53 am | #

        First time Becky showed up on campus

  17. cbwroses
    cbwroses
    October 27, 2023 at 12:17 am | #

    Huh. I didn’t know we had new faces. Looks like I’m f*ckface now.

  18. UrsulaDavina
    UrsulaDavina
    October 27, 2023 at 12:23 am | #

    Sexuality is a spectrum but it is not subject to the transitive property.

  19. AGV
    AGV
    October 27, 2023 at 12:24 am | #

    Good ole Joyce

  20. shrub
    shrub
    October 27, 2023 at 12:25 am | #

    Well that went better than expected, well done Dorothy

  21. Quirdry Tawks
    Quirdry Tawks
    October 27, 2023 at 12:26 am | #

    Is this really happening? Did Dorothy actually find that groove? I mean, sure sounds like.

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      October 27, 2023 at 1:40 am | #

      Hey you, with the dream to rule
      Best friend whose eyes are blue
      You got that funky groove

      • Quirdry Tawks
        Quirdry Tawks
        October 27, 2023 at 11:01 am | #

        …well? Innit, tho?

  22. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    October 27, 2023 at 12:28 am | #

    Dorothy’s amusement in the last panel is nice, at least.

    Also, it just hit me that it is kind of a minor miracle that Joe and Billie/Jennifer never had sex.

    • Quirdry Tawks
      Quirdry Tawks
      October 27, 2023 at 12:36 am | #

      After ListBro labeled her Desperate, Chubby Cheerleader? Noooo, that ship didn’t even sail; it burned down in port.

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      October 27, 2023 at 1:42 am | #

      They’ve only been in 6 comics together!? Including one where there’s zero interaction, and another where she’s apparently coming on to him and he blows her off.

  23. Jo_cubstar
    Jo_cubstar
    October 27, 2023 at 12:31 am | #

    No, Joyce, that’s not how that works

    • Mym
      Mym
      October 27, 2023 at 12:56 am | #

      Sorry for the false flag, I got fat thumbs.

      But he could have mono or mouth herpes, but that’s not necessarily from kissing! I caught mono from sharing a drink with a girl

  24. C.T. Phipps
    C.T. Phipps
    October 27, 2023 at 12:34 am | #

    No.

    Or maybe YES?

  25. butting
    butting
    October 27, 2023 at 12:36 am | #

    “… unless you’re about to kiss me, too.”

  26. AbacusWizard
    AbacusWizard
    October 27, 2023 at 12:39 am | #

    Dumbing of Age, Book 15: Joyce. No.

  27. Maddie B
    Maddie B
    October 27, 2023 at 12:40 am | #

    The change in Dorothy’s facial expression between the first and second “Joyce. No.”

  28. Raven
    Raven
    October 27, 2023 at 12:44 am | #

    Glad to see Dorothy looking a bit more cheerful. Hopefully she’s come back from whatever edge she was teetering on

    • Coatl
      Coatl
      October 27, 2023 at 12:48 am | #

      There is still a long way to go, but seeing her smile is really encouraging.

  29. BarerMender
    BarerMender
    October 27, 2023 at 12:44 am | #

    You’re not the biggest lesbian, and if you are, you’ve kissed me, because Joe got to me back in high school.

  30. Qube
    Qube
    October 27, 2023 at 12:46 am | #

    joyce logic: kissed a boy. must be The Most Lesbian now

    • Angel
      Angel
      October 27, 2023 at 1:07 am | #

      reminds me of those “fellas is it gay to have sex with a woman” meme or so

      • Taffy
        Taffy
        October 27, 2023 at 1:45 am | #

        For the record, yes, it is gay for a man to have sex with a woman. There are multiple passages about it in the Bible.

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        October 27, 2023 at 5:19 pm | #

        ok, but I worked with a woman in RL who said that in earnest, because a guy suggested cowgirl position when they were having sex.

  31. Cmasta1992
    Cmasta1992
    October 27, 2023 at 12:47 am | #

    If Dorothy is a pirahna she definitely has an angle to strike at Joyce

  32. tim gueguen
    tim gueguen
    October 27, 2023 at 12:47 am | #

    And it was contemplating this question that led Joyce to become an epidemiologist.

  33. Raen
    Raen
    October 27, 2023 at 12:50 am | #

    For some reason, this makes me think of Ruth’s “no, but yes.”

  34. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    October 27, 2023 at 12:51 am | #

    Final Part (suggestive)
    A bit late but here it is. The end. This was not supposed to be this long.

    • milu
      milu
      October 27, 2023 at 1:29 am | #

      <3

    • Bash
      Bash
      October 27, 2023 at 1:51 am | #

      I do see how the joke at the end was meant for a shorter format, but I don’t think anyone minded you drawing it out.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        October 27, 2023 at 2:02 am | #

        Honestly last strip wasn’t supposed to happen. It was gonna be Joe going into his room, Amber reaching down and then just a hard cut to a dialogue box that said
        “They both came really really hard”
        sort of an anti-climax.
        But then I drew a climax.

        • Mturtle7
          Mturtle7
          October 27, 2023 at 2:01 pm | #

          Honestly, the punchline of this one is way funnier when it’s given the context of the last strip!

    • cbwroses
      cbwroses
      October 27, 2023 at 1:52 am | #

      Just another day at the Rosenthal/Insert-Amber’s-last-name house.

      • Schpoonman
        Schpoonman
        October 27, 2023 at 6:52 am | #

        O’Malley, unless Stacy changed her name before marrying Richard and Amber went with it.

        Wait, did Stacy take Richard’s name? I can imagine Amber not wanting either name from her mother’s husbands.

        • DailyBrad
          DailyBrad
          October 27, 2023 at 8:15 pm | #

          Good question. I could see her doing it, since I can’t imagine she has any real interest in keeping any ties to Blaine. Amber’s old enough to where she wouldn’t really necessarily need to be considered on that front.

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      October 27, 2023 at 1:54 am | #

      Gosh and golly, the open plaid shirt. A real 🦐🥦🥡🥢🥠 type of situation, if you take my meaning.

      • NGPZ
        NGPZ
        October 27, 2023 at 2:05 am | #

        Chinese food on Jewish Christmas?

        Damn now I’m hungry for Chinese food…

    • PirateTawnee
      PirateTawnee
      October 27, 2023 at 3:38 am | #

      Argh the little head-tilt in panel 6 should not be that powerful.

      Just me? Oh, ok.

      • Quirdry Tawks
        Quirdry Tawks
        October 27, 2023 at 11:08 am | #

        No. Not just you. 😊

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        October 27, 2023 at 1:08 pm | #

        Also me. Which is why I drew it :3

    • Quirdry Tawks
      Quirdry Tawks
      October 27, 2023 at 11:06 am | #

      A sweet end to a hot story. Yoto, you’re the bestest. Thank you.

    • Quirdry Tawks
      Quirdry Tawks
      October 27, 2023 at 11:19 am | #

      I kinda-sorta envision this last part ending thus:

      Joe and Amber: (smile with a bit of a blush)

      Joe: (touches Amber’s hair)

      Amber: (grins) “Yeah. Me, too.”

      Joe: (kisses Amber’s forehead)

      Amber: (closes eyes with a silent giggle)

      Joe: (separates, heads towards kitchen) “…have you eaten?”

      END.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        October 27, 2023 at 1:09 pm | #

        Haha extremely cute. So sweet its rotting my teeth. Love it.

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      October 27, 2023 at 5:51 pm | #

      Amber’s smilling is so creepy. I loved it, ad it fits well on herself.

  35. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    October 27, 2023 at 12:53 am | #

    Not as long as Daisy walks this Campus.

    • Angel
      Angel
      October 27, 2023 at 1:09 am | #

      Given daisy’s ‘luckless’ schtick/gimmick, at this point i wouldn’t be surprised if joyce has kissed more girls than she has

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        October 27, 2023 at 1:16 am | #

        Well we do know for a fact Joyce has kissed one girl, Becky. Until proven otherwise we know Daisy has kissed zero girls. One is greater than zero so I think Joyce is winning.

        • AlexaSpuds
          AlexaSpuds
          October 27, 2023 at 1:31 am | #

          daisy kissed billie once iirc

          • Yotomoe
            Yotomoe
            October 27, 2023 at 1:38 am | #

            She got close but we don’t see any contact.

      • Yotomoe
        Yotomoe
        October 27, 2023 at 1:18 am | #

        Daisy has somehow kissed negative women.

        • Daibhid C
          Daibhid C
          October 27, 2023 at 4:21 am | #

          Daisy kissed Valentina Vostock from the seventies version of Doom Patrol?

          • Devin
            Devin
            October 27, 2023 at 2:33 pm | #

            Internet points for you

        • Slartibeast Button, BIA
          Slartibeast Button, BIA
          October 27, 2023 at 5:32 am | #

          Such a huge matter-antimatter explosion would have vaporized Indiana.

          • Mturtle7
            Mturtle7
            October 27, 2023 at 2:02 pm | #

            Leslie: “….Worth it.”

            • Mturtle7
              Mturtle7
              October 27, 2023 at 2:02 pm | #

              That was supposed to say Daisy but I guess Leslie fits too??

    • Pergola
      Pergola
      October 27, 2023 at 1:33 pm | #

      Daisy is the biggest lesbian with the fewest partners.

  36. sdrainbow
    sdrainbow
    October 27, 2023 at 12:53 am | #

    Becky’s radar certainly pinged on the last panel, but I think we can all be grateful she isn’t in the room to hear panel 2 – she’d have a massive nosebleed and die via hemorrhage.

  37. Bryy
    Bryy
    October 27, 2023 at 12:53 am | #

    I am fully on Team Joyorthy now.

    • Quirdry Tawks
      Quirdry Tawks
      October 27, 2023 at 11:04 am | #

      Not Doyce?

  38. Angel
    Angel
    October 27, 2023 at 1:06 am | #

    lol if that’s how it worked ppl would’ve left a hetero relationship more easily lol

  39. Bicycle Bill
    Bicycle Bill
    October 27, 2023 at 1:13 am | #

    quote:
    “When you have sex with someone, you are having sex with everyone they have had sex with for the last ten years, and everyone they and their partners have had sex with for the last ten years.” 
     
    I think somewhere along the line as a young girl she heard (or was told) that quote from former US Surgeon General C. Everett Koop (regarding STDs, specifically AIDS), and kinda got that mixed up in her mind…

    • Bicycle Bill
      Bicycle Bill
      October 27, 2023 at 1:38 am | #

      A little something that goes along with the good doctor’s quote, in a light-hearted musical ditty…
      ‘I Got It From Agnes’

    • Mturtle7
      Mturtle7
      October 27, 2023 at 2:04 pm | #

      So wait, is all sex also a form of masturbation?

  40. Bittersweet
    Bittersweet
    October 27, 2023 at 1:13 am | #

    Is this gonna lead to Dorothy making a move? That last panel looks like it’s gonna be her making a move of some sort.

    As a Joe/Joyce shipper I feel much conflict, because Joyce/Dorothy is also just very sweet. I don’t want either ship to sink like this though lol

    • Bash
      Bash
      October 27, 2023 at 1:49 am | #

      I think she feels comforted by her usual role of talking Joyce down from her neuroses.

  41. morhek
    morhek
    October 27, 2023 at 1:20 am | #

    “As someone who likes kissing boys, you would technically be bisexual.”

    “But I have, through the transitive property, kissed so many girls that Joe is a statistical outlier and shouldn’t be counted!”

    “How are you arguing both for AND against homeopathicdilution in your love life?”

    “I don’t know! This is what I have you for!”

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      October 27, 2023 at 7:55 am | #

      But the transitive property should apply recursively here, so she’s also kissed all the boys that all the girls that Joe’s kissed had kissed. (And all the girls they’ve kissed too.)

  42. Dday
    Dday
    October 27, 2023 at 1:24 am | #

    you… you can all feel it coming now, right guys? I’m not alone here?

  43. milu
    milu
    October 27, 2023 at 1:33 am | #

    Hence the common phrase “Ladies and Germs”

  44. DashWallkick
    DashWallkick
    October 27, 2023 at 1:34 am | #

    And thus, Dorothy’s center is rediscovered.

    • Yotomoe
      Yotomoe
      October 27, 2023 at 1:44 am | #

      Is it Tootie roll? or Gum?

      • Quirdry Tawks
        Quirdry Tawks
        October 27, 2023 at 9:48 pm | #

        Neither; it’s kind of **gooey…** 🤭

    • Slartibeast Button, BIA
      Slartibeast Button, BIA
      October 27, 2023 at 5:34 am | #

      The Dorothy Keener Center for Presidential Aspirations?

  45. Bash
    Bash
    October 27, 2023 at 1:48 am | #

    Somehow this was just what Dorothy needed.

  46. HueSatLight
    HueSatLight
    October 27, 2023 at 1:50 am | #

    Has anyone else read/seen “La Ronde”?

  47. Throwatron
    Throwatron
    October 27, 2023 at 1:55 am | #

    i can’t explain why, but panel 3 may be my new favorite Joyce Face

    • Holly
      Holly
      October 27, 2023 at 5:13 am | #

      She looks so much like her mother!

  48. Suet
    Suet
    October 27, 2023 at 2:02 am | #

    This is not the first time she has induced transitive property about girls and attraction. Good grief, there will be more, won’t it?

    Just their germs? Joyce, maybe kissing a girl in actuality would set the record straight

  49. Ophidiophile
    Ophidiophile
    October 27, 2023 at 2:51 am | #

    I had been wondering how Joyce could have escaped the clutches of Purity Culture, but it looks like she didn’t. Probably going to be a cascade.

  50. Amós Batista
    Amós Batista
    October 27, 2023 at 3:06 am | #

    I don’t think Joyce’s concerns is about germs…

    • HueSatLight
      HueSatLight
      October 27, 2023 at 10:31 am | #

      I don’t think so either, at least not to that much. I think Dorothy has just told her Joyce helps her by needing Dorothy’s help, so Joyce is acting the part to improve her mood. It’s panel 2 of this strip, but the ways Sarah and Dorothy won’t let her change are different.

  51. Adrastos42
    Adrastos42
    October 27, 2023 at 5:15 am | #

    New book title in panel 5?

  52. Nicoleandmaggie
    Nicoleandmaggie
    October 27, 2023 at 5:40 am | #

    Ugh. I remember that lesson in health class. Thankfully in ours it wasnt about kissing and it was followed up with “this is why you use condoms” and not anything about purity. But I know exactly the purity training she’s referencing here and I both hate that it’s still so ingrained and also love the way she’s twisting it.

  53. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    October 27, 2023 at 5:46 am | #

    “his face kinda felt like my legs when I don’t shave them” isn’t something I expected to read this week lol

  54. Chasey
    Chasey
    October 27, 2023 at 6:59 am | #

    I like this conversation so far. Very funny, very Joyce, Dotty ain’t freaking out either and/or disapproving. Would be cool if it stayed that way.

  55. RF
    RF
    October 27, 2023 at 7:19 am | #

    I sort of want to see Joyce continue this line if thought, for the possibility of seeing another Joyce Freak-Out Face.

  56. Vulcanodon
    Vulcanodon
    October 27, 2023 at 7:48 am | #

    Trust purity culture to try to sabotage sexual happiness by manufacturing icky thoughts.

  57. Chubsius
    Chubsius
    October 27, 2023 at 8:01 am | #

    For all of Joe’s talk, he’s had what, two sexual partners? Just Roz and Malaya? And were they both a one time deal? Just wondering if Joe has technically had the least sex of the guys in the cast.

    • Makkabee
      Makkabee
      October 27, 2023 at 11:00 am | #

      Not as long as Faz exists.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      October 27, 2023 at 11:22 am | #

      Canonically a couple of times with Roz, before she got fed up with his objectifying bullshit. There was also Penny.

      It’s heavily implied he’s had a lot more – Danny talked during the Liz incident about being frequently sexiled, but we haven’t seen it.

      • Chubsius
        Chubsius
        October 27, 2023 at 8:57 pm | #

        I forgot about Penny.

    • NickG
      NickG
      October 27, 2023 at 3:37 pm | #

      Dorothy says Joe slept with as many girls as he has pairs of shoes, so 6 or 7.
      https://www.dumbingofage.com/2013/comic/book-3/01-if-the-shoes-split/manliness/

      • thejeff
        thejeff
        October 27, 2023 at 10:15 pm | #

        “At least”

        And that was just a week or two into the semester, so probably mostly his high school exploits.

    • Mark
      Mark
      October 27, 2023 at 6:25 pm | #

      There’s an old saying: “the ones who talk about it the most, do it the least.”

  58. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    October 27, 2023 at 8:06 am | #

    Dorothy loves Joyce so much. It’s so sweet.

  59. Queezle
    Queezle
    October 27, 2023 at 9:17 am | #

    Dorothy looks like someone who is happy to come back to a familiar space-

    • Alan in DC
      Alan in DC
      October 27, 2023 at 4:22 pm | #

      To me, Dorothy looks like the kind of person who was the school yearbook editor in high school, and was the Queen Beeyotch in the process.

  60. davidbreslin101
    davidbreslin101
    October 27, 2023 at 9:55 am | #

    Panel 7:
    DOROTHY: Not yet.

    New Slipshine up!

    • davidbreslin101
      davidbreslin101
      October 27, 2023 at 9:55 am | #

      At last. Gravatar Roulette, I can rest in peace now.

  61. Sibre
    Sibre
    October 27, 2023 at 10:38 am | #

    If his face is too prickly, just squeeze it until he grows it out more.

    • Quirdry Tawks
      Quirdry Tawks
      October 27, 2023 at 11:24 am | #

      Oh noooo no no nononono.

      Between stubble-sexy and short-beard-sexy lies… The Itch.

  62. Adept
    Adept
    October 27, 2023 at 12:28 pm | #

    If Joyce figures out STD:s exist, we can only hope Joe has been getting regularly tested, and can show clean paperwork.

  63. Yotomoe
    Yotomoe
    October 27, 2023 at 1:07 pm | #

    By the same transitive property Joe has also kissed Becky.

  64. Felian
    Felian
    October 27, 2023 at 1:49 pm | #

    She’s not wrong you know, about the germs.
    Joe hopefully has regular STI tests done?
    Even if he *does* use condoms every time, there’s usually stuff people don’t always pay attention to as much as condoms.

    • HoopsieDaisy
      HoopsieDaisy
      October 27, 2023 at 2:26 pm | #

      Are you trying to trigger our poor friend who’s just trying to figure out being a regular person with glasses and new medicines and diagnoses?

      It was a kiss. Simmer down, now.

  65. thumb
    thumb
    October 27, 2023 at 2:43 pm | #

    Joyce! How dare you say this in a universe where Becky exists!

  66. Plaaaaaa
    Plaaaaaa
    October 27, 2023 at 3:44 pm | #

    Joyce should kiss girls who have kissed boys to be more straight.

    • The Jighole Man
      The Jighole Man
      October 27, 2023 at 7:42 pm | #

      it aint gay if you’re just evening out the statistics.

  67. Warcodered
    Warcodered
    October 27, 2023 at 5:41 pm | #

    Becky: I sense a disturbance in the force.

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