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The very last arc on the manga does NOT exist. It’s a nasty internet rumor, and whatever panels you’ve seen around, no you’re not. It was some rando doing doujinshi for the kicks
Not sure if you’re on Patreon (or which book it wound up in), but there’s a bonus strip with Connie and Galasso where she’s looking forward to enrolling at IU in the near future.
Outside of specific bakery stuff/being a patissier that needs exact measurements, i’m sure there are good home cooks that you can also get tips/tricks from. Although it would be interesting if there was one of the stay at home mom/dad charas being a better chef than any of their local restaurants
(tho these days with shrink flation and post covid and stuff/quality going down, making things for yourself might be better)
(tho interestingly enough i swear once i saw a website of a culinary arts school that had like a psychology class as a ‘requirement’? or so?? Like, i get maybe a ‘minor in business’ in case ppl wanted to start their own restaurant but psych is a bit odd for it but y’never know i guess it would be useful to know but idk how much you can psychoanalyze your potential customers)
Oh, no, psychology is _much_ more than psychoanalysis. Simply understanding how and why people eat (many reasons besides mere hunger), how they remember and feel due to food stimuli, how they eat together or alone, why they overeat, how they can stick to healthy diets and why they stop them, how eating impacts (positively and negatively) exercise programs (since Joe works out, this is particularly germane to him), and more.
Food is powerful stuff, and knowing how it controls and influences people is important background for any serious food business person.
(hell, we just saw joyce jump joe because he cooked some simple stuff for her [per the instructions])
Psychoanalysis is more or less entirely different than psychology, but I believe I know what you meant.
Cooking is of course about making food, but *making food for someone* is very much a highly social activity. Understanding context, occasion, the mix of people you’re cooking for, the cultural signals they associate certain foods with.. all of these are social skills a chef should possess. Requiring at least some basic courses in psychology seems a perfect fit for chefs.
i guess it depends on how small the restaurant is but sometimes the line cook isn’t the smae as teh cashier taking the order, i’m just fine as long as there’s not like too many mistakes versus the restaurant ppl talking tom e for 5 mins versus it being some kinda ‘entertainment’ thing like how japan has host clubs/hostesses
You’ll need to add the word “formal” to that, and you’ll still only acquire “cook” not “chef”. If you think working shit shifts for a couple of years to learn how to cook isn’t an education, then maybe it’s time to review what education and learning are.
Yeah, the hard part about becoming a chef is mostly “be constantly making food”, preferably many different kinds of food, but specialty is fine, too.
It really depends on what he means by “chef”. Like, running a food truck or a popup is one thing. Working the line at a Michelin starred place is another. Being the cook making bar food is also an option. Or being someone’s personal chef. There’s variety and shit.
Right now, what Joe seems to want is seeing people smile because they ate his food. He’s not passionate about the food itself, yet, I think.
Joe aspires to be the kind of cook that Gordon Ramsey will put 2 slices of bread on either side of his head, and have Joe declare himself an “idiot sandwich”.
Gordon Ramsay’s a little punk-ass dusty weasel who couldn’t cook his way out of a takeout box. It’s all smoke and mirrors. The rat fuck has been faking it this entire time, just bullshitting all his recipes and dishes. Nobody wants to fucking admit this, but his camera crew does all the actual cooking and the dirty bastard has a team of six ghostwriters to cover any occasion. He’s been running lines for the camera since his career started.
Huh.
I have literally no idea if you’re joking or not. Mostly because, aside from general pop-culture osmosis, I have never once watched anything with Gordon Ramsay in it. Mostly because I find any sort of show where people cook elaborate dishes only to have an array of random judges take a single bite and decide if they did good or not is inherently stupid and ignores that personal taste and preferences are the heart of cooking.
The impression I always get from him is that for all of his bluster, he still is at *least* a competent cook and business manager. Maybe not Truly Extraordinary at those things, but that puts him leagues above the kind of disasters he has on his shows. Like if it the world of chefs, if he’s a B, B- rank, that’d still be leagues better than the Fs on Kitchen Nightmares.
I do like him on Master Chef Jr. He’s good with the kids, and while they have some restaurant challenges when he will be yell-y with them, they’re told about it ahead of time so it’s not actually some sudden shock. (And I think it’s still much less then he’ll do with adults.)
And he does have some sweet moments elsewhere, but again, I don’t watch those as a whole.
that travel show Ramsey attempted was terrible. Not just isn’t Bourdain, but is the antithesis of Bourdain. He doesn’t have that deep sociological understanding of cultures that Bourdain had, nor the grace when encountering subsistence foods. And he certainly doesn’t have the writing chops. He’s a prissy little spoiled douche. He reminds me of the negative caricature Bourdain would talk about when describing himself as a teenager.
I’ve been having difficulty figuring out where IU is aiming w.r.t. “food studies” and the like. Subjects related to food seem to be scattered all over — IIRC Food Studies is part of Anthropology? The clearest focus seems to be on the management side of hospitality.
When I was in school there was a Department of Restaurant, Hotel and Institutional Management, but it changes its name and mission every couple of years and I have no idea what it’s called now, or what it does.
He could do a business studies or public relations degree, then learn culinary stuff on his own/get an apprenticeship afterward? Or if he wanted to do the molecular gastronomy side of things, he could focus on the science now and the food later.
Back when I was at university a friend did a Phd about the make-up of the perfect sausage. She was actually hired by a big food company out of the gate, although it was more automation than food prep they wanted her for.
Joe and Joyce have a satisfying and fulfilling sexual relationship, but in the end, he leaves her to pursue his culinary dreams. Joyce is left behind with her friends and Dorothy, who as you said anon, gave up her dreams to remain with Joyce. Thus, Joyce finally embraces her bisexuality and dates Dorothy.
Then the comic jumps forward say 6 years or so to Joyce and Dorothy’s wedding day. Joe is there, both as a guest and the caterer (establishing his successful entry into the food industry). Other characters show up, some in couples we knew, others not (either alone or with new partners).
Joyce and Dorothy say their vows. There is a montage of bird seed throwing, photos, and the start of the reception.
And then a portal opens and Soggies appear. Because this is still a David Willis comic.
Dumbing of Age has had runaway gay teenagers and aspiring superpoliticians circle around to staying at IU. I’m certain this is just Willis messing with us.
I agree it is a very nice fountain. However, looking at images online, the central figure’s face and hair seem strangely angular compared to the rest of the work. I wonder why that is.
I mean, i’m sure a certification would be good (at the very least you need to go do a food handler’s test to get a license to sell food), but you could still just be a good ‘self-taught’ chef if not watching vids. Although depending, it would be useful, greed/money aside if some culinary arts/retired chef could come in on places like these on the weekends to have some group cooking class and such so the broke college students aren’t having ramen each saturday lol
Rose n’ Thaws and it serves like icecreams and other frozen treats during the summer and spring. Then during the cold seasons they could be Rose n’ Falls and do coffee with seasonal pastries and fresh muffins – that sort of thing.
Maybe they could do catering and floral arrangements for events.
@NPGZ I mean for easy serving/portion size they could do some “bite” sized food like meatballs and dango — i actually saw a bakery once which was called ‘amazeballs’ tho unfortunately it shut down
(Or some vamp chef au with like a name like “love at first bite” 8D.)
I love the fact that he’s just sort of a dumb kid trying to find his way. Trying to become a better person but he doesn’t have a clear career path.
The motivation was different, but I didn’t put much more thought than this before devoting years studying for the ministry. And that went exactly nowhere.
Seeing the bleed through of Joe being happy with Joyce into his other personal relationships is genuinely really heartwarming. At the beginning of the comic he basically treated Danny like a vague nuisance, implicitly because he was, as Joe might have said at the time “babe repellant”. Now he’s actually opening up to him again and talking to him about what he wants in life.
Get a degree in small business management. If you’re a competent self-taught chef and good at keeping the books, you’re going to have a much better shot at making it work than if you’re a professional chef and self-taught at keeping the books.
I was thinking this, too. It’d also be a good background for other opportunities if it turns out he doesn’t love the chef life (most chefs I know actually hate their job).
I kinda want to see him have a little bakery and wear a cute little apron Joyce made for him, because she Definitely learned that kind of home-ec for her prior trad-wife goals. Or slowly evolve into Bob Belcher but with macaroni instead of burgers
Man, if I had a nickle for every one of Joyce’s friends who gave up on their dreams because they’d have to change colleges and thus leave Joyce, I’d have two nickles. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice.
If I had a nickle for everyone in this thread up to 10:40am, 10/4/2024 who commented about this meme needing to die, I’d have two nickles. Which isn’t much, but it – *gunshot*
You’d have to do two separate moms. The transaction works on Devil May Cry rules, so it costs an extra nickel each consecutive time. By the fifth time, you’re already up to a quarter in price.
In case anyone else is wondering what this fountain looks like, or like me found some photos but couldn’t make head or tail of it, here is a 3-D model that was made from an iPhone scan. It’s so bizarre, those contorted “dolphins” are just the weirdest looking things, and the lady’s pose and anatomy are rather improbable. Very Gothic. Thanks for drawing our attention to it, so interesting!
It’s actually the third in a series of five statues by the same sculptor, each placed in a thematically appropriate context. They tell the story of a young woman named Eamo and her sister Turel, who live in the forest after their drunkard father dies and leaves them penniless (hence her nudity). In this third statue, Eamo is fishing in the river to feed herself and Turel, who’s too overcome with grief to take care of her own needs. By the end of the series, the two women are in fancy dresses and accompanied by a wealthy Baron named Hvitt, who found Eamo fishing and was so impressed that he asked her to marry him right then and there. There’s a fascinating interview with the sculptor if you want to read the entire story.
Not quite. Dotty decided her life’s dream ain’t… Dreaming? Lifing? Joe just had an inspiration but isn’t willing to leave the source of same to persue it (if he even has to).
So is having an oven/steamer that has fine enough thermostatic control to actually do Molecular Gastronomy. I saw a video on eggs cooked 1°C apart and the differences were nothing short of flabbergasting. The proteins in the yolk cooked at differrent temperatures and the eggs came out creamy, or custardy, or lumpy, with less than 5° changes between them.
He can run a chain of hotels known for going the extra mile with their continental breakfast. There will be no cold bagels and air pot coffee at Rosenthal Suites.
Dream jobs for the cast, tell me what you think.
Joe: Opens a little bakery or take-away joint. Later runs cooking classes for autistic and other disabled people to help find healthy, sensory-safe and spoon-saving meals
Joyce: Education with a side small-business for her art
Dorothy: Social work. Professional people-helper.
Walky: Tries like fifty different careers, but accidentally ends up making films and ends up writing for cartoons
Sarah: Starts out as a lawyer, ends up a judge.
Amber: computers, ofc. Probably designs an app for multiples to co-ordinate and communicate
Jennifer: Author with a best-selling semi-autobiographical account of her life
Becky: Counsellor working with young queer kids
Sal: Has one really successful country album, cashes out and disappears. Becomes a cultural cryptid.
Ruth: highschool English teacher who also teaches self-defence
By the 23rd century and the Enterprise’s mission to boldly go, probably about ten years will have passed in comic, barring repeated massive time skips. And the Federation had been around awhile at that point, and if some of the cast go for terminal level graduate degrees… yeah, they could easily be in college that long.
If Joyce being autobiographical continues, her art will presumably end up her primary career. Webtoons is close enough to Keenspot, and after finishing her sci-fi webcomic she can use her inside view of her husband’s culinary work to write and draw McAwesome’s, and one year when the anniversary of Roommates!!! rolls around she can launch a new AU comic about what if her superpowered alien-fighting characters were regular humans who met in college…
Mostly on target, but I think Dorothy would feel that she’d thrown away her potential. Probably while surrounded by awards for the amazing work she’s been doing.
Living in a small farming town has probably skewed my concept of “walkable”. Is 5-10 minutes between your home and the nearest gas station or convenience store considered walkable? We used to have like 5 grocery stores within a 5-15 minute drive too, but now there’s like one left (plus Walmart), basically at the edge of town.
I grew up in a “suburb” that was three miles outside town, which I didn’t consider walkable unless I absolutely had to. There was much excitement when the out-of-town shopping centre was built half way between us and town, which I consider almost walkable, but I’d rather take a bus if they’ve decided to exist that day.
15 minutes is a reasonable walkability situation, five is better. I feel like 20 is where it starts getting questionable depending on who you are. I used to consider 30 minutes walkable but I think I’m an outlier on that one.
As others have pointed out, 15 minutes walk/bike ride is the outer limit of “walkable”. I’m including bike ride because you can carry much more with a bike and some kind of cargo capacity like a basket or panniers. My bike has a 500 pound capacity including the rider, so +/- 300 pounds payload. And I have ridden with a full payload without any problem other than going up an incline.
But he would need to get together with Rachel for that. The Dumbiverse Rachel isn’t giving him the time of day. And I do believe the Ruttens take the Rosenthal Industry’s place here as well
If my Google Fu is up to par, IU Bloomington doesn’t offer a specific Culinary Arts degree, but they do have a certificate in “Food Studies” under the Arts & Sciences umbrella.
Part of me is honestly waiting for the comments about how incredibly self-centred Danny is for automatically assuming that Joe’s talking about him, because nobody in this strip is ever allowed to be kidding.
LOL it would’ve been a nice detail if it’s like “oh i remember you being a better cook when we attempted to make things” as kids or so if not “right you helped your mom everytime i was over for dinner” or so. If not “Ah, well, i kinda learned some basics/quick things to make an after hookup breakfaskt or so” for his flings lol, since i guess a guy that can cook does impress girls but i guess back then all heh ad to do was flirt and look ‘attractive’ as opposed to other forms of ‘wooing’
Joe, bb, as a person who went to culinary school married to another person who went to culinary school, most places treat having a culinary degree (especially from a nice program and not a CC) as a massive red flag. If I had a dollar for every time a hiring manager voiced having a culinary degree as a reason to not hire us because we’d “be bored and try to change the menu” then we’d have almost $50. Le Cordon Bleu gave all of us bad names.
The real way up in the culinary career is to start as a dishwasher. You can’t cheat it easily. My husband had to give up on being a chef and went into management (where he really needs a hospitality bachelors but some jobs seem pleased with 5+ years of management experience). You have to work and put the experience in and climb tooth and nail that way. You can also join the military or go to prison for some extra boost, and you will likely end up on drugs or alcohol if you stick with it long enough. Being a chef is a grueling career.
Also, all you really need schooling wise are your food handlers and ServSafe. You can also work on building other certificates if you do baking, I do not remember if there are more for general cooking (which are treated as their own career paths in schools).
So the thing with culinary school, I’m not sure it’s how it goes here (hotel kitchen jobs practically require it, for example, and neither military nor prison experience are well regarded) but…
Starting as a dishie and climbing his way up, though? Yeah, this one rings true for me. It’s one of the last careers where you can do the apprentice – official – master thing, truly medieval in that way. Which is nice. I eventually went to cooking school but this was a result of my experience rather than a starting point.
(I also need to point out that Not All Chefs are addicts sldkjgs.)
IDK. Grueling it may be but seriously… If one loves it, one loves it. And one might fall out of love – it’s totally fair! But it’s been really sad to see all the people coming through to say how a terrible decision this would be.
Should probably hold out to see if the positive connotations with kitchens persist.
This is just such an impulsive young man decision to make. (I said, ignoring my recent mid-life out-of-the-blue decision to change career to something completely unrelated).
Maybe I’m ignorant and culinary programs are different, but tbh most careers it doesn’t matter much at all what your major is on your bachelor’s degree. Joe could major in business or something since that’s important for managing employees as a chef and pursue it through other means, perhaps as a Master’s.
Don’t let Danny be your academic advisor. IU has a literal Food Institute in the Department of Anthropology. Like, I know we crave drama, but this could also just be a fun arc for Joe.
Only it looks like the Food Institute program closed last year. Other food-related programs at IU that I’m seeing are less connected to cooking and more about sustainability and food justice. Some classes in this could be good for Joe, but the overall program doesn’t seem as aligned with his interests.
That said, there are a lot of approaches Joe could take toward this that involve staying at IU.
Hold your horses. Joe’s level of interest right now is boxed mac-and-cheese by the directions and handjobs. It’s pretty hard to say the remaining program is beneath him.
looking back at the last couple, I’m beginning to wonder if one of the few singular unmixed flavors joyce enjoys is “semen”
consider:
· joe got pleasure from cooking for someone — classically a component of this concept is the other person enjoying the food
· joyce had almost no concept of needing to go wash her hand off
IF it’s less literal than that, then this would require our known promiscuous horndog to have somehow never have experienced someone enjoying being with him, right? Like if his “cooking” is:
providing an experience to the other person that is largely composed of ‘them getting to see him experiencing pleasure‘”
then it seems remarkably unbelievable for that NOT to have happened already.
…unless this is then somewhat a comment on Joyce’s extreme ability to show appreciation? Has all of Joe’s experience been meeting average levels of expressed appreciation and she’s enabled him to realize he has a dragon he can chase outside of the bedroom?
The hell are you on about, she just got overexcited about the handjob and forgot to wipe up, and he enjoyed the experience so much he started getting ideas.
Cops are overgrown children cosplaying War, with all the rest of us forced into their stupid, childish game without our consent, consuming vast funds from the public treasury and ruining lives by the hundreds of thousands.
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I cannot get over these cops wearing night vision to arrest a dude on a Southwest Airlines flight in broad daylight.
a woman posted a pic in a group chat of a baby turkey she bought thinking it was a chicken. She captioned the pic "IS THIS A TURKEY?!?"
Anyway, I haven't been here because I've been yelling IS THIS A TURKEY at everything. You should try it
y'ever figure, hey, i should put joyce in bisexual flag colors for this storyline, but you also figure, hrm, that might telegraph things 8 months in advance, so you... add orange stripes and... it works, somehow it works, nobody points out the pink/purple/blue
Jonathan Joss being shot outside his home while protecting his husband after being sent a threatening and distressing package is WHY we need Pride
It's 2025 and people are still being shot and killed for being queer
This is why we march and why we fight
the thing about white liberal Americans is that they'll argue to accept bigots into their tent before accepting the bigots' targets.
the targets that have been on the same side as white liberals from the jump.
John Redcorn was pretty much the only contemporary Native representation I had in comedy growing up. Probably the funniest Native character in cartoon history and a lot of that was on Jonathan Joss' pitch perfect rezzy uncle performance. RIP to one of the best to ever do it.
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*Joe checks out Totsuki Academy anyway*
“JAPAN! Fuck that, I’m gonna stay here and just watch ChefPK for FREE”
who says Food Wars can’t also take place at IU :p
This feels like a solid opportunity that Willis missed out on
I like how we’ve all agreed that this is just Food Wars/SnS now
dammit I need third season dubbed!
as long as you stop before the dumpster fire that is season 5
The very last arc on the manga does NOT exist. It’s a nasty internet rumor, and whatever panels you’ve seen around, no you’re not. It was some rando doing doujinshi for the kicks
WOULD Joe set himself on fire before validating Danny’s sappy emotional needs?
In this case, I think Danny’s sappy emotional needs have been reassured by Joe coming to Danny with this in the first place.
Their school literally has a whole culinary like, job prep thing. Danny please.
Tbf, it’s not like we’ve been introduced to any students also aiming to be a chef/working in the food industry
Inb4 Galasso was a graduate of this college/his daughter was a student all along and she was just never crossing paths with any one before
Connie was 16 last semester.
There are 16 year olds attending college all across the country; it’s not impossible for the two to be simultaneously correct.
Not sure if you’re on Patreon (or which book it wound up in), but there’s a bonus strip with Connie and Galasso where she’s looking forward to enrolling at IU in the near future.
I mean IU Bloomington has a program for Food Studies Certificate, not sure how relevant it actually is for a career as a chef.
Worst case scenario he can just teach himself, stay with Joyce and open up a food truck.
I mean how much harder can it be than teaching yourself how to code video games? XD
Outside of specific bakery stuff/being a patissier that needs exact measurements, i’m sure there are good home cooks that you can also get tips/tricks from. Although it would be interesting if there was one of the stay at home mom/dad charas being a better chef than any of their local restaurants
(tho these days with shrink flation and post covid and stuff/quality going down, making things for yourself might be better)
(tho interestingly enough i swear once i saw a website of a culinary arts school that had like a psychology class as a ‘requirement’? or so?? Like, i get maybe a ‘minor in business’ in case ppl wanted to start their own restaurant but psych is a bit odd for it but y’never know i guess it would be useful to know but idk how much you can psychoanalyze your potential customers)
Oh, no, psychology is _much_ more than psychoanalysis. Simply understanding how and why people eat (many reasons besides mere hunger), how they remember and feel due to food stimuli, how they eat together or alone, why they overeat, how they can stick to healthy diets and why they stop them, how eating impacts (positively and negatively) exercise programs (since Joe works out, this is particularly germane to him), and more.
Food is powerful stuff, and knowing how it controls and influences people is important background for any serious food business person.
(hell, we just saw joyce jump joe because he cooked some simple stuff for her [per the instructions])
Psychoanalysis is more or less entirely different than psychology, but I believe I know what you meant.
Cooking is of course about making food, but *making food for someone* is very much a highly social activity. Understanding context, occasion, the mix of people you’re cooking for, the cultural signals they associate certain foods with.. all of these are social skills a chef should possess. Requiring at least some basic courses in psychology seems a perfect fit for chefs.
i guess it depends on how small the restaurant is but sometimes the line cook isn’t the smae as teh cashier taking the order, i’m just fine as long as there’s not like too many mistakes versus the restaurant ppl talking tom e for 5 mins versus it being some kinda ‘entertainment’ thing like how japan has host clubs/hostesses
Becoming a chef is literally one of the most “no education required” jobs ever if you’re willing to work shit shifts for a couple years
You’ll need to add the word “formal” to that, and you’ll still only acquire “cook” not “chef”. If you think working shit shifts for a couple of years to learn how to cook isn’t an education, then maybe it’s time to review what education and learning are.
Yeah, the hard part about becoming a chef is mostly “be constantly making food”, preferably many different kinds of food, but specialty is fine, too.
It really depends on what he means by “chef”. Like, running a food truck or a popup is one thing. Working the line at a Michelin starred place is another. Being the cook making bar food is also an option. Or being someone’s personal chef. There’s variety and shit.
Right now, what Joe seems to want is seeing people smile because they ate his food. He’s not passionate about the food itself, yet, I think.
Joe aspires to be the kind of cook that Gordon Ramsey will put 2 slices of bread on either side of his head, and have Joe declare himself an “idiot sandwich”.
Gordon Ramsay’s a little punk-ass dusty weasel who couldn’t cook his way out of a takeout box. It’s all smoke and mirrors. The rat fuck has been faking it this entire time, just bullshitting all his recipes and dishes. Nobody wants to fucking admit this, but his camera crew does all the actual cooking and the dirty bastard has a team of six ghostwriters to cover any occasion. He’s been running lines for the camera since his career started.
Huh.
I have literally no idea if you’re joking or not. Mostly because, aside from general pop-culture osmosis, I have never once watched anything with Gordon Ramsay in it. Mostly because I find any sort of show where people cook elaborate dishes only to have an array of random judges take a single bite and decide if they did good or not is inherently stupid and ignores that personal taste and preferences are the heart of cooking.
The impression I always get from him is that for all of his bluster, he still is at *least* a competent cook and business manager. Maybe not Truly Extraordinary at those things, but that puts him leagues above the kind of disasters he has on his shows. Like if it the world of chefs, if he’s a B, B- rank, that’d still be leagues better than the Fs on Kitchen Nightmares.
He has won several Michelin stars
He trained under Joël Robuchon and Marco Pierre White. He’s as real the real deal as there is, despite the over-the-top cartoon TV personality
I do like him on Master Chef Jr. He’s good with the kids, and while they have some restaurant challenges when he will be yell-y with them, they’re told about it ahead of time so it’s not actually some sudden shock. (And I think it’s still much less then he’ll do with adults.)
And he does have some sweet moments elsewhere, but again, I don’t watch those as a whole.
I was mostly being rude to the big-shot millionaire celebrity, more or less unprompted.
Ramsey is no Anthony Michael Bourdain. Not by any stretch.
that travel show Ramsey attempted was terrible. Not just isn’t Bourdain, but is the antithesis of Bourdain. He doesn’t have that deep sociological understanding of cultures that Bourdain had, nor the grace when encountering subsistence foods. And he certainly doesn’t have the writing chops. He’s a prissy little spoiled douche. He reminds me of the negative caricature Bourdain would talk about when describing himself as a teenager.
I’ve been having difficulty figuring out where IU is aiming w.r.t. “food studies” and the like. Subjects related to food seem to be scattered all over — IIRC Food Studies is part of Anthropology? The clearest focus seems to be on the management side of hospitality.
When I was in school there was a Department of Restaurant, Hotel and Institutional Management, but it changes its name and mission every couple of years and I have no idea what it’s called now, or what it does.
He could do a business studies or public relations degree, then learn culinary stuff on his own/get an apprenticeship afterward? Or if he wanted to do the molecular gastronomy side of things, he could focus on the science now and the food later.
Back when I was at university a friend did a Phd about the make-up of the perfect sausage. She was actually hired by a big food company out of the gate, although it was more automation than food prep they wanted her for.
Ten points to whoever pointed this out yesterday
WILLIS PLS NO DONT TAKE JOE AWAY FROM JOYCE
Imagine if this is why they break up like “Joe moved/transfer to become a chef, but Dorothy GAVE UP going on Yale FOR ME” or so XP
Imagine if that was end-game.
Joe and Joyce have a satisfying and fulfilling sexual relationship, but in the end, he leaves her to pursue his culinary dreams. Joyce is left behind with her friends and Dorothy, who as you said anon, gave up her dreams to remain with Joyce. Thus, Joyce finally embraces her bisexuality and dates Dorothy.
Then the comic jumps forward say 6 years or so to Joyce and Dorothy’s wedding day. Joe is there, both as a guest and the caterer (establishing his successful entry into the food industry). Other characters show up, some in couples we knew, others not (either alone or with new partners).
Joyce and Dorothy say their vows. There is a montage of bird seed throwing, photos, and the start of the reception.
And then a portal opens and Soggies appear. Because this is still a David Willis comic.
Dumbing of Age has had runaway gay teenagers and aspiring superpoliticians circle around to staying at IU. I’m certain this is just Willis messing with us.
Joyce really is the nexus point of the Dumbiverse.
(She’s the main character, after all.)
Not going to happen. Joyce needs to keep her new Sub.
It’s a good fountain
I agree it is a very nice fountain. However, looking at images online, the central figure’s face and hair seem strangely angular compared to the rest of the work. I wonder why that is.
She ran out of polygons, don’t be insensitive.
Large outdoor sculptures sometimes need to have weird proportions in order to look “right” from the ground.
I mean, i’m sure a certification would be good (at the very least you need to go do a food handler’s test to get a license to sell food), but you could still just be a good ‘self-taught’ chef if not watching vids. Although depending, it would be useful, greed/money aside if some culinary arts/retired chef could come in on places like these on the weekends to have some group cooking class and such so the broke college students aren’t having ramen each saturday lol
Don’t worry, Joe, we’ve been workshoping career pathways that involve you staying at IU.
For reals i would fuckin LOOOVE if he opened up a food truck with Joyce!!! ^^
but what should they name it? and what would they serve?
Rose n’ Thaws and it serves like icecreams and other frozen treats during the summer and spring. Then during the cold seasons they could be Rose n’ Falls and do coffee with seasonal pastries and fresh muffins – that sort of thing.
Maybe they could do catering and floral arrangements for events.
Rose n’ Gnaws, where they serve food that… you eat.
Edible flowers is a whole thing. Like, both literal edible flowers, and also shaping food into looking like flowers.
@NPGZ I mean for easy serving/portion size they could do some “bite” sized food like meatballs and dango — i actually saw a bakery once which was called ‘amazeballs’ tho unfortunately it shut down
(Or some vamp chef au with like a name like “love at first bite” 8D.)
FoodtrUCK
(because Joyce is a fan of that word)
Jo-Jo’s Cuisine Adventure
I love the fact that he’s just sort of a dumb kid trying to find his way. Trying to become a better person but he doesn’t have a clear career path.
The motivation was different, but I didn’t put much more thought than this before devoting years studying for the ministry. And that went exactly nowhere.
No one leaves Blowjob Cat.
When you try to get out, it just sucks you back in.
And everyone knows it! If you don’t know at first, you will soon enough.
Better fel-late than fel-never!
Seeing the bleed through of Joe being happy with Joyce into his other personal relationships is genuinely really heartwarming. At the beginning of the comic he basically treated Danny like a vague nuisance, implicitly because he was, as Joe might have said at the time “babe repellant”. Now he’s actually opening up to him again and talking to him about what he wants in life.
The opposite of Joe Prime who ditched everyone to learn ngineerin
You dont love me, but there you are telling me about your dreams. You have strange idea about small talk
Not everyone likes or engages in small talk. It’s super boring.
Especially if you are forced to do it with someone you barely know for no other reason that you will be “rude” if you don’t.
Normalize not forcing a conversation neither party wants or needs.
Get a degree in small business management. If you’re a competent self-taught chef and good at keeping the books, you’re going to have a much better shot at making it work than if you’re a professional chef and self-taught at keeping the books.
I was thinking this, too. It’d also be a good background for other opportunities if it turns out he doesn’t love the chef life (most chefs I know actually hate their job).
I kinda want to see him have a little bakery and wear a cute little apron Joyce made for him, because she Definitely learned that kind of home-ec for her prior trad-wife goals. Or slowly evolve into Bob Belcher but with macaroni instead of burgers
Besides, Joe, if you learned to cook fancy foods with lots of weird ingredients, Joyce would dump you.
i’m sure he’d have a customized menu for joyce as opposed to her feeling ‘obligated’ to be more adventurous
(imagine if they finally hook up and she just ends up being able to have more dishes)
Blowjob Cat will miss you Joe
Man, if I had a nickle for every one of Joyce’s friends who gave up on their dreams because they’d have to change colleges and thus leave Joyce, I’d have two nickles. Which isn’t a lot but it’s weird it happened twice.
Dorothy case is quite a lot more complicated than that.
And this isn’t a “dream” so much as something Joe just thought of and thought might be cool.
I appreciated your joke. It’s weird that I need to say that, but here we are.
This meme needs to die.
Not to agree with you, but yeah it’s kinda played out at this point.
If I had a nickle for everyone in this thread up to 10:40am, 10/4/2024 who commented about this meme needing to die, I’d have two nickles. Which isn’t much, but it – *gunshot*
*coughing up blood* …So…worth it…
And you can take those 2 nickles and have sex with someone’s mom twice. Or have sex with 2 different moms. Depending on how the math works out.
You’d have to do two separate moms. The transaction works on Devil May Cry rules, so it costs an extra nickel each consecutive time. By the fifth time, you’re already up to a quarter in price.
Sure, but your mom’s worth it.
Mmmm.
Mike approves of this message.
Hugs for Joe.
He could never survive without Galasso’s Pizza (and Subs)!
I recall that episode of Lucifer where the promising high school football player really wants to be in the CIA.
(Culinary Institute of America)
In case anyone else is wondering what this fountain looks like, or like me found some photos but couldn’t make head or tail of it, here is a 3-D model that was made from an iPhone scan. It’s so bizarre, those contorted “dolphins” are just the weirdest looking things, and the lady’s pose and anatomy are rather improbable. Very Gothic. Thanks for drawing our attention to it, so interesting!
https://sketchfab.com/3d-models/iu-showalter-fountain-3d-print-for-bicentennial-473c6587831c4adc860dd78fd55c6f21
She’s holding a fish between her legs??!
Can’t a girl wrestle a fish these days
Must… resist… temptation… to make bad joke about women’s privates smelling like ‘fish’.
It’s actually the third in a series of five statues by the same sculptor, each placed in a thematically appropriate context. They tell the story of a young woman named Eamo and her sister Turel, who live in the forest after their drunkard father dies and leaves them penniless (hence her nudity). In this third statue, Eamo is fishing in the river to feed herself and Turel, who’s too overcome with grief to take care of her own needs. By the end of the series, the two women are in fancy dresses and accompanied by a wealthy Baron named Hvitt, who found Eamo fishing and was so impressed that he asked her to marry him right then and there. There’s a fascinating interview with the sculptor if you want to read the entire story.
Joe’s pullin a Dorothy… Joyce’s inescapable gravitational pull.
Not quite. Dotty decided her life’s dream ain’t… Dreaming? Lifing? Joe just had an inspiration but isn’t willing to leave the source of same to persue it (if he even has to).
Dotty had a dream, realized it meant much less to her than it used to, and let it go.
Joe didn’t have a dream at all. But through The Power of Sex, er, I mean, Love ™, he’s developing one, for the first time.
Power of handys?
A chemistry degree is really good for people wanting a science degree but want to do cooking. Molecular gastronomy is pretty cool!
So is having an oven/steamer that has fine enough thermostatic control to actually do Molecular Gastronomy. I saw a video on eggs cooked 1°C apart and the differences were nothing short of flabbergasting. The proteins in the yolk cooked at differrent temperatures and the eggs came out creamy, or custardy, or lumpy, with less than 5° changes between them.
It does have a hospitality degree! Joe could do that and learn to cook elsewhere.
He can run a chain of hotels known for going the extra mile with their continental breakfast. There will be no cold bagels and air pot coffee at Rosenthal Suites.
I’ve long wanted to see _someone_ open a breakfast restaurant with some name like “Pangaea Breakfast” or “Plate Techtonics Continental Breakfast”.
Where breakfast is someone else’s fault.
Dream jobs for the cast, tell me what you think.
Joe: Opens a little bakery or take-away joint. Later runs cooking classes for autistic and other disabled people to help find healthy, sensory-safe and spoon-saving meals
Joyce: Education with a side small-business for her art
Dorothy: Social work. Professional people-helper.
Walky: Tries like fifty different careers, but accidentally ends up making films and ends up writing for cartoons
Sarah: Starts out as a lawyer, ends up a judge.
Amber: computers, ofc. Probably designs an app for multiples to co-ordinate and communicate
Jennifer: Author with a best-selling semi-autobiographical account of her life
Becky: Counsellor working with young queer kids
Sal: Has one really successful country album, cashes out and disappears. Becomes a cultural cryptid.
Ruth: highschool English teacher who also teaches self-defence
These are perfect.
And the sliding timescale guarantees that they’ll be in college for till communism, so these are actually pretty viable.
For til communism???
By the 23rd century and the Enterprise’s mission to boldly go, probably about ten years will have passed in comic, barring repeated massive time skips. And the Federation had been around awhile at that point, and if some of the cast go for terminal level graduate degrees… yeah, they could easily be in college that long.
Yes, us icky sticky communists gonna RULE THE WORLD like we supervillians hahahahahahahaha >:D
Reading this gave me the warm fuzzies.
If Joyce being autobiographical continues, her art will presumably end up her primary career. Webtoons is close enough to Keenspot, and after finishing her sci-fi webcomic she can use her inside view of her husband’s culinary work to write and draw McAwesome’s, and one year when the anniversary of Roommates!!! rolls around she can launch a new AU comic about what if her superpowered alien-fighting characters were regular humans who met in college…
Mostly on target, but I think Dorothy would feel that she’d thrown away her potential. Probably while surrounded by awards for the amazing work she’s been doing.
Sal’s career is similar to Johnny Cash’s. Free concerts for kids in juvenile.
I can see Amber working with Carla
Has everyone really forgotten so quickly that Becky specifically wants to be a research scientist?! There was, like, a whole dramatic arc about it…
You should build self driving automobiles instead.
Nobody wants those.
yeah I’d give up the self-driving car shit forever if we just had more fucking walkable cities in the USA :/
Living in a small farming town has probably skewed my concept of “walkable”. Is 5-10 minutes between your home and the nearest gas station or convenience store considered walkable? We used to have like 5 grocery stores within a 5-15 minute drive too, but now there’s like one left (plus Walmart), basically at the edge of town.
Fuck. I immediately remembered we also have an Aldi. Two grocery stores. It’s on the same end though, so the distance issue remains.
I grew up in a “suburb” that was three miles outside town, which I didn’t consider walkable unless I absolutely had to. There was much excitement when the out-of-town shopping centre was built half way between us and town, which I consider almost walkable, but I’d rather take a bus if they’ve decided to exist that day.
15 minutes is a reasonable walkability situation, five is better. I feel like 20 is where it starts getting questionable depending on who you are. I used to consider 30 minutes walkable but I think I’m an outlier on that one.
I think by walkable they mean actually being able to walk anywhere, because a lot of places barely have any sidewalk, everything is build around cars.
As others have pointed out, 15 minutes walk/bike ride is the outer limit of “walkable”. I’m including bike ride because you can carry much more with a bike and some kind of cargo capacity like a basket or panniers. My bike has a 500 pound capacity including the rider, so +/- 300 pounds payload. And I have ridden with a full payload without any problem other than going up an incline.
I consider 10 minutes one way to be the limit for walkability, but on a bike I gladly do 40 minutes. No real reason, just what I’m used to I guess.
But he would need to get together with Rachel for that. The Dumbiverse Rachel isn’t giving him the time of day. And I do believe the Ruttens take the Rosenthal Industry’s place here as well
Wow okay just hit me in the face. This is going in the folder of Highlight JoJo strips thank you very much.
Also maybe the feeling Joe is really having here is that his true desire in life is to be Joyce’s househusband.
If my Google Fu is up to par, IU Bloomington doesn’t offer a specific Culinary Arts degree, but they do have a certificate in “Food Studies” under the Arts & Sciences umbrella.
https://bulletin.college.indiana.edu/programs/4215/FOODSTACRT/
Eh, don’t worry Joe, you can learn to be a chef after your degree.
Sometimes, I forget these are very young and dumb kids. Joe, you cooked blue box Mac and cheese, one time. Don’t decide your entire future on that.
But it was such a rewarding experience!
I think Joe has a good insight. Ya gotta hand it to him.
But he learned he likes to put things on women’s mouths to make them feel happy!
Part of me is honestly waiting for the comments about how incredibly self-centred Danny is for automatically assuming that Joe’s talking about him, because nobody in this strip is ever allowed to be kidding.
He didn’t say “slash-S”, so how do we know he’s kidding?
/s
LOL it would’ve been a nice detail if it’s like “oh i remember you being a better cook when we attempted to make things” as kids or so if not “right you helped your mom everytime i was over for dinner” or so. If not “Ah, well, i kinda learned some basics/quick things to make an after hookup breakfaskt or so” for his flings lol, since i guess a guy that can cook does impress girls but i guess back then all heh ad to do was flirt and look ‘attractive’ as opposed to other forms of ‘wooing’
Joe, bb, as a person who went to culinary school married to another person who went to culinary school, most places treat having a culinary degree (especially from a nice program and not a CC) as a massive red flag. If I had a dollar for every time a hiring manager voiced having a culinary degree as a reason to not hire us because we’d “be bored and try to change the menu” then we’d have almost $50. Le Cordon Bleu gave all of us bad names.
The real way up in the culinary career is to start as a dishwasher. You can’t cheat it easily. My husband had to give up on being a chef and went into management (where he really needs a hospitality bachelors but some jobs seem pleased with 5+ years of management experience). You have to work and put the experience in and climb tooth and nail that way. You can also join the military or go to prison for some extra boost, and you will likely end up on drugs or alcohol if you stick with it long enough. Being a chef is a grueling career.
Also, all you really need schooling wise are your food handlers and ServSafe. You can also work on building other certificates if you do baking, I do not remember if there are more for general cooking (which are treated as their own career paths in schools).
So the thing with culinary school, I’m not sure it’s how it goes here (hotel kitchen jobs practically require it, for example, and neither military nor prison experience are well regarded) but…
Starting as a dishie and climbing his way up, though? Yeah, this one rings true for me. It’s one of the last careers where you can do the apprentice – official – master thing, truly medieval in that way. Which is nice. I eventually went to cooking school but this was a result of my experience rather than a starting point.
(I also need to point out that Not All Chefs are addicts sldkjgs.)
IDK. Grueling it may be but seriously… If one loves it, one loves it. And one might fall out of love – it’s totally fair! But it’s been really sad to see all the people coming through to say how a terrible decision this would be.
Pls Joe, hug Danny
Wow it’s deja vu all over again (Joe deciding on an engineering major in the Walkyverse)
Gustatory Engineering is the best.
Should probably hold out to see if the positive connotations with kitchens persist.
This is just such an impulsive young man decision to make. (I said, ignoring my recent mid-life out-of-the-blue decision to change career to something completely unrelated).
JoeXDanny OTP
Maybe I’m ignorant and culinary programs are different, but tbh most careers it doesn’t matter much at all what your major is on your bachelor’s degree. Joe could major in business or something since that’s important for managing employees as a chef and pursue it through other means, perhaps as a Master’s.
Don’t let Danny be your academic advisor. IU has a literal Food Institute in the Department of Anthropology. Like, I know we crave drama, but this could also just be a fun arc for Joe.
I’m not sure if danny knows anything about the college, he already knew he wanted to do computer shit and just followed dorothy there like an idiot
Every once in a while, I have to remind myself it’s called ‘Dumbing of Age.’ But I’m rooting for ya, Joe!
Only it looks like the Food Institute program closed last year. Other food-related programs at IU that I’m seeing are less connected to cooking and more about sustainability and food justice. Some classes in this could be good for Joe, but the overall program doesn’t seem as aligned with his interests.
That said, there are a lot of approaches Joe could take toward this that involve staying at IU.
Hold your horses. Joe’s level of interest right now is boxed mac-and-cheese by the directions and handjobs. It’s pretty hard to say the remaining program is beneath him.
looking back at the last couple, I’m beginning to wonder if one of the few singular unmixed flavors joyce enjoys is “semen”
consider:
· joe got pleasure from cooking for someone — classically a component of this concept is the other person enjoying the food
· joyce had almost no concept of needing to go wash her hand off
IF it’s less literal than that, then this would require our known promiscuous horndog to have somehow never have experienced someone enjoying being with him, right? Like if his “cooking” is:
forgot the / in my closing blockquote
The hell are you on about, she just got overexcited about the handjob and forgot to wipe up, and he enjoyed the experience so much he started getting ideas.
These are very weird assumptions to make.
Y’know, Joe, you should probably work in an actual kitchen before making such a large investment. The kitchen is a very stressful place.