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️𝓝𝓪𝓷𝓲 
“Hi!” =D
=3
“Have you seen my brother? Sort of looks like you but shorter hair, and boy.”
=x
“I have to tell him I already KNOW about the divorce.”
@_@
“I have to tell him I already KNOW about the divorce.”
Oh, that would have been DIVINE.
There’s no way that Joyce on the spot has the mental acuity to assimilate her language and knowledge and do this on the spot, but if she could say “hey miss, I have to tell my sibling I already KNOW about the divorce” would be more and more amazing.
I’m going to enjoy the joyce faces that come as a result of this, though.
We’ll find out after her brain reboots from this unhandled exception error.
I kind of hope for the shocked horrified Joyce background, but flat expression and the final panel being, “Oh, that’s who Ethan meant”
Joyce squints for a moment and then gasps “Are you me from the future here to warn me about something?”
Oh no, not the egg theories again
Over-easy?
That would be an A+ prank
probs not gonna happen,
however I bet they can think of even BETTER ones to pull on their friends AND enemies ^^ <3
EEEEK SHOOO EXCITED I STIMMING SO MUCH
Jocelyne (playing along): Why yes Joyce. I’m here to tell you – tell me, whatever – that your brother is now your sister. Joshua is no more, meet Jocelyne.
Actually, I lied. I AM Jocelyne.
(Pause while the mother of all Joyce Faces slowly builds up … And explodes in full glory)
This is especially hilarious to me, as when I transitioned… before dumbing of age even launched…
I had one siblings name and I switched to the other sibling’s name.
“I am” but instead of Goku, Jocelyn 🥹
“Ha ha ha! Oh, quite an imaginative tale. A comedy, for the utterly outrageous premise beggars belief! My girl, one cannot travel back in Time! Time marches ever forward; and I alone determine at which rate.”
Oh, Jocelyne will try. You know, she’s a writer.
And where are the Alien Witch, the Esper, and the Slider?
Joyce: “I see I’m having an out of body experience. Huh, from the outside I’m taller than I thought.”
dang it, beat me to this one
Bigger on the inside, taller on the outside.
xD
Dimensionally trascendentant.
Jesus: Well, well, well…
Aw, cute. Jocelyne is cute.
Thanks to the magic of comics time (thanks, Scott McCloud!) I’m going to assume that the final panel lasts for about 30 seconds.
Does the last panel mean she doesn’t recognize her?
Joyce’s pupils are pretty small. I think she’s processing.
They’re her irises, right? Although I guess the pupils are the part that can shrink… Hm.
True, but characters with colored irises don’t get pupils in DoA’s art style.
Catching up on Bluesky (because I need relatively calm doomscrolling), and found this:
https://bsky.app/profile/damnyouwillis.bsky.social/post/3l7yoglmour2o
Yikes.
just do as I do and fill your feed with pixel art and indie game dev and pokemon ^^
I’ve never been into Pokémon, even though I was in the target age group when Red and Blue released.
My feed is mostly Star Trek and The Simpsons shitposting. And The New Yankee Workshop.
According to the alt text, she is.
i imagine that it’s a new outfit b/c of the height diff but it’d be amusing if it was like “…are those my old overalls” or so lol
“hey who put this mirror up in the lobby. and why do i look taller than usual.”
You have no idea how much I’d pay to see Joyce and Jocelyne spontaneously do this routine in full.
I thought that was going to be a link to Lucy & Harpo’s rendition of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79EnDc-Ucv8
“What are you doing step sister”
omg the colors of jocelyne’s outfit mirror joyce’s… love
HERE WE GO!
Give her a second…
“Aunt Lori?”
[Jeopardy Theme plays on hacked Muzak speakers]
Now we just gotta wait for Joyce’s brain to catch up
JoyceBrain.exe has encountered a problem and needs to restart
Joyce has no idea who that is, does she? Jocelyn looks so cute when she’s flustered.
Other Rachel not being seen exiting the elevator before the doors closed again can only mean she rode it down to the lobby and then rode it back up. Huge development for Other Rachel fans.
She saw a second Joyce and noped out all the way up to the roof.
I second this opinion.
Garbage Roof as a refuge from The Crisis Of the Infinite Joyces?
Matryoshka Joyce
well ’30 whole seconds’ seems like enough for her to walk by without her still being in the frame lol
Doing this in public seems pretty nuts
On the one hand, she could potentially be loudly outed to a bunch of strangers. On the other hand, would Joyce’s dorm hallway be any better?
She could have asked Joyce to go up to her room and then reveal her outfit (or tell her), but it’s possible there are some physical differences that aren’t clear in the art (like she mentioned her skin improving, and there could be other small aspects that Joyce isn’t guaranteed to not ask about before her room). Also, there’s something to be said for having a quick escape route in case it goes poorly.
Though she did think that if she kept the coat on Joyce wouldn’t realize.
Makes sense to me. She’s in a college, where she knows at least some number of folks will be cool, where she can make a quick getaway if needed, where she doesn’t actually know anyone around or need to care about their opinions or, indeed, ever see or interact with them ever again.
If it goes wrong, leaving is easy.
the suspense is terrible i hope it lasts
wait no actually please let joyce say something now
because i kiiiinda smell cutaway? and if it is i will die.
OK, Joyce. Breathe. Remember what Ethan told you to say. You’ve rehearsed this. Remember your training and you will make it through this calmly.
“Mind what you have learned. Save you it can.”
“Good. Calm. Yes. Through the Force, things you will see. Other places. The future. The past. Old friends long gone.”
-Yoda
Spider-Man Pointing Meme Dot Jaypeg
Man, look at that side angle. Jocelyne really is just Taller Joyce.
There are other differences between the 2 of them. Joyce has big jugs.
(That she wears on her feet when she showers.)
Well if she had the jugs, she’d be as tall as her sister!
Has anyone pointed out what great timing Jocelyn has btw?
Especially with Joyce finding out about Carla. I get that Willis probably planned that but in universe wow impeccable timing
HERE IT COMES EEEEEEEEK ^^ <3
*gets another bucket of popcorn and soft pretzels to much on*
*plays “Star Wars Theme” on hacked muzak*
Penny in the air.
Oooh, have the Gravs rerolled? Or did I just capitalize incorrectly?
no i dont think they rerolled just yet
however Willis DID put in a new Bluesky feed panel in place of the old Twitter one ^^
Thank Cheese.
Someone called the “Joyce and Jacob took the stairs” in yesterday’s comments.
And here we are at the point of no return, good luck Jocelyne.
Rare moment when one of my theories pans out
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2024/comic/book-15/01-love-dares-you-to-change/redhead/#comment-1816862
… It’s that brainfucking visual pun again
pika pi?
do not quite get it?
?_?
If you’re trans and you “pass” it means that people don’t notice you’re trans.
Carla was passing by in the linked comic, and here Joyce and Joe passed by Jocelyne.
oooooh yeah hehehehee nice ^^ <3 thanks bruh
Not sure that’s intentional, but it is kinda funny.
I’ll eat my ten gallon hat if it’s not intentional, it happened over and over there’s links in that thread.
I mean Willis is extraordinary at subtle visual storytelling, like how Jocelyn was first hinted at being trans via Brown family eye colors
Pretty sure Willis is on record as saying that one was completely unplanned, and it just happened to work out really nicely in hindsight.
Somebody this Willis a Eisner Award.
The ideal state. If you don’t pass the world treats you like public toilet………
… and it’s not a genderneutral public toilet -.-
How about this for a restroom policy?
We have but single kind of public toilet for all people of all genders to use freely and forever,
and transphobes like Mary who feel “””uncomfortable””” sharing it with us can use the bathroom in the bushes,
or better yet piss and shit themselves in public
no for reals to Mary and the transphobes of the world:
This is descending into Gilbert Godfrey’s version of The Aristocrats…
do they also have bigots piss themselves?
if so I’d pay to watch that!
actually imma YOLO and make a game where you gotta lock up the restrooms or something so Mary pisses herself and you watch
yeah…. that’s EXACTLY what I’ll do >:D
polilililillilililililililililii…. >:D (evil laughter commences)
how have i never read this word literally?????
it makes so much sense. people just *pass by* without thinking about your gender… TIL! mindblowing tho it shouldn’t be xD
Tonight, Jocelyne joins the hunt…
I want her to stay and to commit mildly subversives acts with Becky and Dina.
Yes, please Willis!!!!! T_T <3
If you do I promise to make the most epic of fan games with them!
“Joe is completely lost without context,
And my brain hard locks up.”
*Hard rock rendition of Jessica by the Allman Brothers Band finishes*
Man, seeing them side-by-side like that, especially with the glasses, they look like twins (except one had a growth spurt)
Jocelyne in the last panel reminds me of Humphrey from Omori. Quite a thin but wide smile she has going on there.
Forgotten ONE attribute… outfit. Jeans and blue Uggs tho, yeah I’m seeing the trend.
Jocelyne’s hair is also somehow lighter than Joyce’s or John’s, don’t forgor that.
IM SO GIDDY RN OMG
ITS FINALLY HAPPENING ……………………………..
“I stole your whole flow. deal with it”
Time for flashbacks to several instances of Little Jocelyne saying things that influenced the way Joyce grew as a woman.
I need this. I need this so much.
So is it good or bad Joyce didn’t recognize her at first? Like wow I passed so hard my sister thought I was a completely different person. Or is it wow my sister is face blind and really needs those glasses?
Well, Joyce and Joe were passing behind Jocelyne, possibly not seeing her face at all.
Plus, Joyce probably remembers “Joshua” looking similar to how she looked during the heist at Becky’s house. Y’know, like a short-haired Christian twink in masculine/neutral clothes. She’s not looking for a cute girl in frilly sleeves and overalls.
Love how Joyce & Jocelyne are actually wearing the same colors
Oddly subdued Joyce Face. But Jocelyne Face is a good substitute
Joyce’s brain is about to flash a TILT warning in five…four…three…
what is a TILT?
i am not familiar with this earthling lingo
Old people talk. Pinball games used to be designed to lock up if you jostled them too hard. TILT was the “error message” displayed when that happened.
ooooh I think that was intended to prevent people from *cheating* at them, especially in arcades where they used to dispense tickets and stuff
a similar mechanism is present in many coin pusher machines where if you tilted the machine to tried force the coins to slide out if would activate a hidden trap door in the collection slot that would recollect them into the machine and sounding an alert noise
Tickets are fairly recent. Classical pinball machines had a pendulum in them to keep them from being bumped and rocked to influence the ball and cheat. When I grew up arcades didn’t have tickets at all.
they don’t even have physical tickets at them places anymore, or tokens, just cards
I know that’s to prevent paper usage and make it easier to store and handle massive amounts of tokens, but still i liked the designs they had on them :/
I miss tokens. like the one cool arcade here in town had their machine set up so you got 5 tokens for a dollar. if you got any tokens that weren’t the regular gold color, you took them to the attendant and traded them in for 10 or 20 or 50 tokens. and the games were all different. none of them game out tickets. there was maybe one or two games with a gun, and fighting games weren’t a thing yet. There was a game that had a whole keypad on it I can’t remember the name of, but it would save your progress and you could pick up where you left off at your next visit. there was also that third game that was like Dragon’s Lair and Space Ace, but was a spy game?
Cliff Hanger!
Yeah. Nothing quite beats waiting fifteen minutes for the Stacker machine to spit out all 1,000 tickets for the grand prize.
The arcades I go to don’t even have prizes, just games. If its got tickets or prizes its not an arcade its a kiddie casino.
Yes. I am old. Beats the alternative.
It’s a pinball thing. [Insert shitty music reference here]
Not to distract from this long awaited reunion.
But I finally drew the macaroni and cheese thing
Nothing gay to see here.
awe shit brotha no worries
as usual demi-god tier work, i LOOOVE ^^ <3
=D
Now we’re talkin!
Oh, Joyce is helping. So nice of her
Excellent!
(nah, nothing gay there at all)
((sheesh, joyce, use a spoon. who taught you to eat like that?))
There is no such thing as a spoon and there never was.
It’s like looking into a mirror!
Joyce: …
Jocelyne: …
Joyce: Cute boots.
Jocelyne: OMG same.
I think that shows every trans girl hopes their coming out will go.
It’s usually not.
But sometimes. Rarely. If you get insanely lucky.
Usually not though, yeah.
It’s fair to hope for, but not really to expect. Even for those who are quickly supportive, some awkwardness and processing time isn’t unreasonable.
Mine involved, screaming, divorce, disinheritance, and attempted commitment by my mother. So I have to agree with you.
NGPZ SAD
And now we see Joyce freak out, then freak out at herself for freaking out. It’s easy to be accepting when it’s a hypothetical, or just someone you know, but you really discover how much bigotry you’ve internalised when your mental frame of someone you knew for a long time or grew up with is upended, no matter how much you think you have a lid on it.
she hasnt freaked out yet. I think it will be more surprise and confusion.
” someone you knew for a long time or grew up with is upended”
Are you saying thats proof of bigotry itself or just when to test for Proof of bigotry ?
This seems like a whole basket of issues.
Its a conservative trope not to care about an issue at all until its someone they know personally. ( Which Joyce does fall under ). Jocelynes been their Model of Good Brother. That could upend some assumptions of maleness.
I think she’s well prepared to accept this. All she has to do is repeat what she said yesterday.
“Internalized bigotry from growing up” doesn’t mean you’re A Bigot, just means you grew up in the same society as everyone else. It’s how you react once you’ve had some time to process that’s really telling.
(See also: Joyce with Becky)
Yeah, I know from experience confronting internalized bigotry can be REALLY tough, especially when it came to embracing my being autistic.
the big picture of bigotry that needs to be understood is that it’s not so much about individuals insomuch as it’s about the systems we are born into by pure chance that are in need of changing. In the United States and parts of the world which took after our bad example, bigotry is heavily ingrained into our culture and a lot of the ways we are brought up to think about, say, and do things, in lots of ways we don’t even realize because the real history behind them is often hidden from us.
Addressing it requires thinking about ourselves and our place in it, social justice is all about questioning traditions and customs and stuff we were born into by pure chance and were mislead into venerating because of our upbringing.
It’s not just tough, but ongoing. You think you’ve rooted it out, dealt with it properly, you’re congratulating yourself for how enlightened you are now and some new buried bit you’d never seen pops out.
yeah, this related to why i just let myself be a goofball and a pikachu brainrot on discord
it’s not just to have fun but it a healthy way for me to burn all bridges to any notion a majority of earthlings will EVER perceive me as Normal™, and be at peace with that fact
First of all: AAAAAAA that’s beautiful!
Second: Carol would have a stroke when figure it out.
is it weird… that I think Jocelyn is cutes? ~<3
sigh… cuter… I meant cuter… although, she’s also totes cutes. ~<3
Once we accepted “totes” into our lives, that opened the door for “cutes” to come in, too. Embrace the accidental creation; lean into it; freely use it from now on.
the awkwardness makes it cute as long as she isn’t uncomfortable for too long but i imagine joyce would be happy as opposed to “hold on i’m not ready to process this ” and running away from her
Joyce has always wanted a sister.
Yeah I feel like a lot of people forget that. If anything, this Joycereact might just be too overwhelming for poor Jocelynn XD
“since when is there a Funhouse/stretchy mirror by the elevators?”
I’m seeing double, here! FOUR JOYCES!
I don’t like the idea of DoA having two
spaghetti dinnersJoyces.To be fair to Joyce–if I didn’t live with my sister, and I hadn’t seen her for several months when she started to transition, I might not recognize her at first either, lol
[deep breath]
Next strip is just back and forth cuts between them with no dialogue as brains begin to move.
I am you~ and you are me
Why there’s such… a mystery
Man, it would terrible if Joyce said something really awkward and weird right now, like all that stuff she’s been saying lately about and to Carla. Surely that won’t happen, right?
Right?
ort she literally says the same thing, and this time it works
Or if she says the same thing, it works, and Joyce still needs a moment to recognize who she’s talking to.
I mean sister might work here because it’s true lol
Indeed it may. And don’t call me Shirley
I wonder if Jocelyn decided to style her hair like Joyce’s deliberately, or if the Brown family’s hair just does that if it’s allowed to grow long.
Carol’s kind of does the same thing, but she keeps it shorter.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/instructed/
Joyce has Carol’s hair and Hank’s eyes.
She got his chin, too.
There are too many J names around here
Dio Brando, crashing the family reunion:
Goodbye, broken embedded Twitter feed!
Will Becky be along anytime soon? THERE’S a reaction I just have to see.
Yeah because she will see it as a hot Joycelike Glowup
“Another lady in the world, very hot. But tell me, are you. . .lesbian?”
“Sorry, I don’t think so? I’m mostly into guys.”
“That’s too bad. Or maybe it’s for the better. I would not handle it well if I had to be around someone more queer than me.”
Quick JOyce, cue up: You have now, and have always been my sister
OK, Jocelyne. Time for the power move. Tell Joyce you are there to talk about the divorce. Don’t bring up anything else. See how long it take her to snap.
Best entry I’ve seen so far!
Get even more absurd, say the personal news is that you’ve become a vegetarian.
That would have shocked my friends WAY more than transitioning!
Hit her with the pay phone confession from Spider-Man 2.
Hah. Yes. Good one. Let’s see who cracks first.
Lol Joyce really just walked right past her
“Are you here with my brother? Are you his friend? Are you his girlfriend?!”
Just preparing for the most awkward…
Funny story: Shortly after coming out, me and my wife ran into some acquaintances, and they asked “Oh, where’s today, is this his sister?”
So hah
Joyce is gonna be all “Oh shit! I have to go apologize to Carla!”
Came here to say this lol
Can anyone else hear Beethoven’s Symphony number 9 in D Minor? Because I had no idea we were owed two Joyces.
*intensely shaking*
Who are you, and what have you done with my brother?
Me, suddenly realizing that part of the time skip, where everyone suddenly got new, longer, gosh-I-need-a-haircut looks, is in part to let Jocylene’s hair grow out.
YUP
except Dina’s, oh well
……1
It’s so CUTE how identical they look!! Future family photos will look so cute. At least with the sisters. Let’s hope more people are on board. I want to know how Hank reacted!!!
Same. My guess is, he did OK
Oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck
I couldn’t wait so I bought a Patreon sub.
The next few minutes are going to decide a lot of things.
Like the reverse of that meme lol. “Why the fuck do you look like me?? / of course i support your transition <3"
When I was in college, I’d had a beard since high school, and I shaved one halloween for a costume. I was meeting a friend for lunch, and she walked right past me just like Joyce did here. I grant you that was much funnier for me than I expect it is for Jocelyn, but the strip gave me a little hit of personal nostalgia.
Gotta say I wouldn’t have been able to yell after Joyce like that. I’m not the most judicious when it comes to my voice training, but even so, that early in transition, I wouldn’t have been able to yell across a room; best you’d get out of me would be a stage whisper and I’d go fast walking after the person so as to attract as little attention as possible.
I had to have it spelled to me that voice changing with transition only works one way. I’m a biologist, so I can understand what happens with T, but it never occurred to me that it doesn’t work the other way around (which of course it doesn’t).
I wonder if we’ll learn how to adjust one’s natural pitch with surgery eventually. Vocal chords are tricky and fiddly.
They can do it now to some extent, but its very hit or miss.
Besides, wouldn’t she want to use the voice Joyce would recognize immediately? They’ve talked on the phone somewhat regularly.
Not sure if it’s evolving drawing style or a rarely seen perspective, but Joyce is looking impressively hourglass shaped here. I guess that’s why “Jugs” is repeatedly misunderstood.
Joyce: “Why is there a taller slightly more light haired clone of me?”
“i harbor perverse sexual lust”
…By… who? That’s the question. (Proceding with caution)
… is Willis implying that Joyce or someone else in the cast gonna be a chaser?
XD <3
awww he changed the poll. i liked conveying how hot she is
right?
she BEAUTIFUL T_T
aw, they go to the same hair dresser now
Joyce sees what she’d look like if she put her stat points into height instead of boobs or ass.
Shocking the crap out of people who used to know you after they have looked right at you with no idea who you are was always the best part. It’s been so long now I never get to do it anymore.
what a twist!
I hate to say I called it… But…