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Equipped

by David M Willis on October 25, 2020 at 12:01 am
  • 01 - This Bright Millennium
└ Tags: becky, joe, joyce, sarah

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  1. Kyrik Michalowski
    Kyrik Michalowski
    October 25, 2020 at 12:03 am | #

    Oh Joyce, your confused feelings about Joe do not go unnoticed, except maybe by Joe himself.

    Is anything going to come of this?

    • Kyrik Michalowski
      Kyrik Michalowski
      October 25, 2020 at 12:04 am | #

      Also, first time I’ve ever gotten first comment, hooray?

      • lsdf
        lsdf
        October 25, 2020 at 12:07 am | #

        Congratulations do seem to be in order.

        • clif
          clif
          October 25, 2020 at 3:53 am | #

          As well as some hopefully misplaced concern for Jen.

          • Deanatay
            Deanatay
            October 25, 2020 at 9:52 am | #

            Jen IS allowed to have other things going on.

      • Pagemistress
        Pagemistress
        October 25, 2020 at 12:08 am | #

        Have some imaginary cake to celebrate! …unless you have actual sweets, then go eat those to celebrate instead.

      • Ralph Oscar
        Ralph Oscar
        October 25, 2020 at 1:13 am | #

        Hooray!!

    • Undrave
      Undrave
      October 25, 2020 at 12:10 am | #

      I don’t think it’ll go anywhere romantically, I like their weird friendship. Joe is not right for Joyce, but he’s at least painfully transparant about what he wants :p

      • justin8448
        justin8448
        October 25, 2020 at 1:06 am | #

        FYI, there’s a story line on Slipshine that strongly hints that Joe is not fully transparent about what he wants, specifically regarding Joyce.

        Despite that, I agree that they’re not right for each other. I think they could be a fantastic learning experience for each other though.

        • FLUFFY
          FLUFFY
          October 25, 2020 at 1:16 am | #

          They’re better as friends. I know the old song, opposites attract, but…. really? There’s too many differences between them for me to really see it as a Thing.

          • Sai Somsphet
            Sai Somsphet
            October 25, 2020 at 2:03 am | #

            well… that, and at some point binge reading literally everything Davis ever left online, im pretty certain he mentioned he was going to have everyone end up in the same relationships as Shortpacked. It could have been a fever dream….he has a habit of making….terrifying April Fools updates. So at best the see each other naked and argue about it.

            • Bubbletea
              Bubbletea
              October 25, 2020 at 3:26 am | #

              Huh, I thought it was ‘no one will end up in the same relationships as on Shortpacked’. But my memory of that is pretty foggy, so…fever dream could be believable. Although, Mike and Amber is kinda a long shot if we are running on 100% accurate info in here?

              • tbf
                tbf
                October 25, 2020 at 4:54 am | #

                I don’t think it was a hard and fast rule, so much as not wanting to retread the relationship dynamics already explored in Roomies/It’s Walky/Shortpacked.

                • Regalli
                  Regalli
                  October 25, 2020 at 10:15 am | #

                  Yeah, note that Ruth and Billie have been together for some time now and they were an item in (essentially) flashback back in Roomies. Dorothy/Walky was also a thing in an alternate universe to the mainline Walkyverse, and then things got Complicated, and Sal/Jason was a dysfunctional but still present Thing there as well. Pretty sure we’re done exploring the latter, but the former got a LOT of screentime here. I think Sal/Jason’s the only time a relationship was seriously explored (even via hatesex) that had gotten actual screentime back in the Walkyverse. Robin/Leslie, I guess, but I hesitate to call that a relationship (and DoA!Robin actually seriously being a politician, and a Republican at that because of the setting change, does SERIOUSLY change the dynamics.)

                  As for Joyce/Joe, it was definitely teased throughout the Walkyverse, but apart from an alternate universe that I’m pretty sure ended in their Head Alien killing everyone, it wasn’t ever canonized. Meanwhile, Willis has talked a lot in the commentary about how much they love writing Joe-Joyce interactions. Which is why I can see it happening, even if not permanently. (Given the ‘my intent is to have a strip I can write pretty much forever’ aspect, I wouldn’t consider any relationship a shoo-in for permanence.)

          • StClair
            StClair
            October 25, 2020 at 2:45 am | #

            old song…?

            *turns into dust and blows away*

          • drs
            drs
            October 25, 2020 at 3:36 am | #

            Though one of the differences, of religion, is probably gone or smaller now: instead of a “save the Jews” fundamentalist Christian, she’s an atheist, and he’s a Jew with opinions about proper Christmas, so not exactly strongly practicing.

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      October 25, 2020 at 12:13 am | #

      I think it’s the long game being played here.

      The very long game, given the trip home/texting arc was back in 2016.

      • Matthew Wells
        Matthew Wells
        October 25, 2020 at 12:53 am | #

        Longer- Joe was the first guy Joyce considered for a potential husband.

        • Regalli
          Regalli
          October 25, 2020 at 1:02 am | #

          Oh, absolutely. I just consider the texting a bit of a turning point in their relationship.

  2. Chris
    Chris
    October 25, 2020 at 12:07 am | #

    Meanwhile, Sarah definitely doesn’t care if Joyce cares if Joe cares.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      October 25, 2020 at 12:08 am | #

      But Becky at least cares about why Joyce cares if Joe cares enough to ask.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      October 25, 2020 at 12:41 am | #

      Of course she does. Anytime Joyce is denial, Sarah can have fun poking her with it.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      October 25, 2020 at 9:56 am | #

      …Baka?

  3. Nono
    Nono
    October 25, 2020 at 12:08 am | #

    Maybe Joyce wants to be Amber’s sis- ohhhhh.

    Joyce has always wanted a sister.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      October 25, 2020 at 12:10 am | #

      On the one hand she could marry Joe and get a superhero as a sister.

      On the other hand she could marry Walky and get Sal as a sister.

      The downside in either scenario is being married to Joe or Walky.

      Either way, she’s gonna be pretty surprised to learn she already has a sister.

      • Nono
        Nono
        October 25, 2020 at 12:21 am | #

        Secret option: she marries one of the DeSantoses and gets all the excessively numerous sisters.

    • Johan
      Johan
      October 25, 2020 at 12:11 am | #

      Joyce already has a sister. She’s just not out to Joyce yet.

      • Needfuldoer
        Needfuldoer
        October 25, 2020 at 10:10 am | #

        Headcanon: Joyce and Becky went back home again over a holiday break, and stayed at Jocelyne’s place with Hank because they all needed distance from Carol and John. Joyce remarks to Becky that she’s the closest thing to a sister she’ll ever have. Jocelyne bites her lip, and starts sweating bullets and trembling, in a callback to this scene in the diner:

        https://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/comic/book-6/03-when-god-closes-the-door/india/

    • DailyBrad
      DailyBrad
      October 25, 2020 at 12:14 am | #

      That’s probably part of it, although there’s also a lot of ambiguous feelings between Joyce and Joe, anyway, that both of them seem neither equipped to recognize or to tackle at this point.

    • Keulen
      Keulen
      October 25, 2020 at 3:17 am | #

      I’m hoping Joyce will find out that she already has a sister sometime soon.

  4. Romanticide
    Romanticide
    October 25, 2020 at 12:09 am | #

    Becky has noooo idea of how much Joyce is invested on caring about this XD

  5. Regalli
    Regalli
    October 25, 2020 at 12:09 am | #

    No, Joyce, this is DEFINITELY not on Joe. AmbG cannot get support unless they ask for it. Currently, Amber is not. And even if Amber did ask for that support, Joe really is not equipped for helping his new stepsister(s, depending on whether it’s Amber or Amber and AG asking) through the degree of trauma and survivor’s guilt and self-loathing they’re going through, not on his own. He can help, I’m sure, and so can you if they reach out, but this is not a burden that should be put on a single friend or family member. (Seriously. Online peer support for systems. Please, seek that out girls.)

    That said, my shipper heart is quite pleased with the ending there.

    • tbf
      tbf
      October 25, 2020 at 4:57 am | #

      “Am I my brother’s keeper?”

      The Bible makes it pretty clear that yes, you are. And that’s still the moral paradigm that Joyce is operating from.

      • TemperaryObsessor
        TemperaryObsessor
        October 25, 2020 at 10:53 am | #

        Given the context not that clear.

      • Regalli
        Regalli
        October 25, 2020 at 12:40 pm | #

        Oh, it makes sense. It was only a few months ago Joyce thought prayer and getting a new ‘boyfriend’ would be sufficient to help Billie out of her depression. (Though I suspect having more information about Bonnie’s death combined with watching Ruth’s experience with antidepressants has helped with that approach.) But even then, there’s a difference between ‘Don’t murder your sibling’ or ‘know where your sibling is when it’s important’ and ‘be a primary support for your heavily-traumatized new stepsister whose mental health has been in decline even before a series of extremely traumatic murders and a kidnapping, which may have prompted her to seek a campus therapist who may have actually made things WORSE.’ (The last part is speculative, but kind of hinted. Either way, Blaine’s fuckery combined with Mike’s fuckery combined with Mike’s heroic sacrifice combined with the negative feedback loop of self-and-alter-loathing Amber and AG had going on for a while is a cocktail of trouble NO ONE in the cast is equipped to handle alone, Amber and AG included.)

        A thing can be perfectly in-character and I can understand it while still going ‘oh, Joyce, I do not have anywhere near enough words for how wrong you are.’

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          October 25, 2020 at 1:30 pm | #

          Plus the idea that just because their parents got married there’s some inherent connection that makes her his responsibility. Amber’s got no reason to rely on Joe. Outside of Joyce’s head there’s no magical bond created with a marriage.

          Joyce is closer to Amber, knows more about her problems and would likely be trusted more than Joe. Why isn’t it her responsibility?

          On top of none of them being qualified to handle it, of course.

  6. Big Old Panda Bear
    Big Old Panda Bear
    October 25, 2020 at 12:10 am | #

    (She cares immensely)

  7. Pagemistress
    Pagemistress
    October 25, 2020 at 12:12 am | #

    Hi, uh, can I still buy a ticket for the Joeyce ship? I have supplies in case it only remains a friendship because I find you can still be practical while being a romantic.
    Does it have a better name, cause one that my phone doesn’t hate due to not being a word would be great.

    • Carla's #2 Fan
      Carla's #2 Fan
      October 25, 2020 at 12:13 am | #

      I think JoeJo is one alternative!

      • Pablo360
        Pablo360
        October 25, 2020 at 5:11 pm | #

        SONO CHI NO SADAME!

    • Regalli
      Regalli
      October 25, 2020 at 12:16 am | #

      Brownsenthal, maybe? Still not great, but it’s that or Jojo and then you bring in the Bizarre Adventures people and things get weird and memey.

    • Spencer
      Spencer
      October 25, 2020 at 12:17 am | #

      JoJo

      • He Who Abides
        He Who Abides
        October 25, 2020 at 12:32 am | #

        NoNo.

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        October 25, 2020 at 6:15 am | #

        JoyJo has a bit of a ring to it.

    • Jay
      Jay
      October 25, 2020 at 2:07 am | #

      Joeyce is always accepting new crew mates.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      October 25, 2020 at 10:04 am | #

      The standing name for this ship is ‘Joece’. It’s a solid, old battleship that’s taken its share of hard hits, but is still going strong.

  8. Carla's #2 Fan
    Carla's #2 Fan
    October 25, 2020 at 12:12 am | #

    Aww yes, this ship will sail! Such a rough beginning to their relationship, but it’s developed enough that it could work in the future. I just hope we didn’t miss something important for them in the time skip.

  9. Alex Boston
    Alex Boston
    October 25, 2020 at 12:13 am | #

    Joyce is projecting so much there should be a white screen showing the movie somewhere.

  10. He Who Abides
    He Who Abides
    October 25, 2020 at 12:17 am | #

    Didn’t Willis already make that reference in a previous alt-text?

  11. BBCC
    BBCC
    October 25, 2020 at 12:21 am | #

    Sure, sweetie. Whatever you say.

  12. Stephen Bierce
    Stephen Bierce
    October 25, 2020 at 12:22 am | #

    *plays Phil Collins’ “I Don’t Care Anymore” on the hacked Muzak*

  13. poofdepoof
    poofdepoof
    October 25, 2020 at 12:25 am | #

    … *ships*

  14. abysswatcher1993
    abysswatcher1993
    October 25, 2020 at 12:35 am | #

    Tsundere atheist Joyce.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      October 25, 2020 at 10:05 am | #

      I… I don’t love God! I don’t love Anybody!! BAKA!!!

  15. Lone Duck
    Lone Duck
    October 25, 2020 at 12:40 am | #

    Welcome… to the Tsundere Dome!

  16. Octopus Ink
    Octopus Ink
    October 25, 2020 at 12:40 am | #

    When did The Internet start convincing everyone it was OK to spell “titties” with 2 D’s?

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      October 25, 2020 at 12:43 am | #

      Damn you audocorrecd.

    • Bob
      Bob
      October 25, 2020 at 1:29 am | #

      I rather like the word though, the d’s takes the edge off somehow, replacing some of the perviness with just a hint of a soft and cuddly teddy bear.

      • clif
        clif
        October 25, 2020 at 4:02 am | #

        Well okay, but I kind of think the perviness is the point of choosing to use that particular term. I mean, it’s not like there is an absence of alternatives.

        • insomniac
          insomniac
          October 25, 2020 at 2:38 pm | #

          “Titty” – harsh consonant, “show us your,” “or gtfo,” “check out those.”

          “Tiddy” – casual, friendly, soft and relaxed sound.

  17. C.T. Phipps
    C.T. Phipps
    October 25, 2020 at 12:51 am | #

    I choose to believe Becky is confused because she is actually incapable of understanding the idea of being attracted to a man, let alone Joe. She can accept Joyce crushing on Dorothy but….Joe, why? He’s so WEIRD looking.

    🙂

    • RowenMorland
      RowenMorland
      October 25, 2020 at 8:14 am | #

      Maybe she’s confused because Joyce is famous for not caring about other people’s problems/business. Especially when they relate to her social circle or people who have helped her.

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      October 25, 2020 at 10:08 am | #

      I mean… make his legs shorter, and give him a bushy moustache, and Joe would look a lot like Ross. So, yeah, she’d have issues.

  18. Dr. T
    Dr. T
    October 25, 2020 at 12:58 am | #

    I gotta say, I’m digging almost all of these new designs. I actually also like Amber’s look, but it bothers me that it represents a deterioration in her mental health.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      October 25, 2020 at 9:54 am | #

      Her neuroses and bangs will consume her, until she looks like Cousin Itt.

  19. ADLegend21
    ADLegend21
    October 25, 2020 at 1:03 am | #

    I…..ship it?????

  20. Joyfulldreams
    Joyfulldreams
    October 25, 2020 at 1:05 am | #

    Why am I only just now wondering if Joe legitimately suffers from sex addiction? Because, like. It’s starting to seem more and more like he does.

    • C.T. Phipps
      C.T. Phipps
      October 25, 2020 at 2:26 am | #

      Even if not full-blown sex addiction, it’s always been a coping mechanism for him.

      • CJ
        CJ
        October 25, 2020 at 7:12 am | #

        Addiction starts before it interferes with daily life in a manner you cannot explain away.
        And I’d say, right now it already interferes with Joe actually having friendly relations with most females he meets.

    • tbf
      tbf
      October 25, 2020 at 5:11 am | #

      Sex addiction requires it to interfere with the individual’s life. Joe passes his classes, has other hobbies, and maintains friendships with Danny, Joyce, and Jacob.

      • Eldritchy
        Eldritchy
        October 25, 2020 at 12:35 pm | #

        It doesn’t work like that though. High-functioning addicts are a thing after all. Addiction is when you can’t live your life normally Without the substance or activity. When dropping it is causing you pain and distress.

        • tbf
          tbf
          October 25, 2020 at 1:16 pm | #

          I suspect the majority of people would have difficulty living their lives normally without any sexual release. Sex addiction doesn’t work like regular addiction because sex is regarded as a natural and healthy behavior. It’s unlike other addictions enough that psychologists even disagree on whether it’s an addiction or a compulsion or just slut shaming.

          • Eldritchy
            Eldritchy
            October 25, 2020 at 2:35 pm | #

            That is true…

          • Regalli
            Regalli
            October 25, 2020 at 4:45 pm | #

            I mean, sex-repulsed aces exist. Not all of us have a libido.

            I tend to think Joe’s Thing About Sex isn’t totally sincere – he’s admitted to Danny he’s never had a threesome despite bragging otherwise, and given everyone’s reaction to Joe, I think he has a lot less sex than he lets on. It seems pretty tied to his issues with Richard (the lack of acknowledged middle ground between ‘don’t be a sex creep’ and ‘no sex ever, ever again,’ his interactions with Richard, his entire speech to Joyce before her own about no one getting hurt,) and the issues with vulnerability and his own sexuality accompanying that. Still obnoxious as hell and highly unhealthy, but more akin to Faz I suspect.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      October 25, 2020 at 9:35 am | #

      We’ve seen enough of Joe to know that’s not really what’s going on with him. He uses the facade to keep from letting any women get emotionally attached to him, since he thinks he’ll emulate his father by cheating and hurting them if he does.

  21. Cmasta1992
    Cmasta1992
    October 25, 2020 at 1:16 am | #

    Huh. Shipping the fuck out of JoeXJoyce now

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      October 25, 2020 at 9:52 am | #

      Just now?

    • Deanatay
      Deanatay
      October 25, 2020 at 10:09 am | #

      All aboard the PCS Joece!!

  22. Robbie
    Robbie
    October 25, 2020 at 1:25 am | #

    The difference between Sarah’s eyebrow at Joe vs. Sarah’s eyebrow at Joyce is *chef kiss*

  23. Deadjolras
    Deadjolras
    October 25, 2020 at 1:27 am | #

    Joyce/Joe are really what keep me coming back to this comic, if I’m being completely honest.

  24. Autogatos
    Autogatos
    October 25, 2020 at 1:31 am | #

    I feel like I should not ship them because they could not be more incompatible on the surface but somehow I still do.

    They’re both characters who have a looooot to learn, in sort of opposite directions, so maybe that’s what makes me root for them.

    • Jay
      Jay
      October 25, 2020 at 2:05 am | #

      The thing is like, outside of surface level they’re VERY compatible, they get along REALLY well when Joe isn’t acting like…..well Joe. The moment Joe breaks his fucking horndog habit I STG this ship will sail

      • Sunny
        Sunny
        October 25, 2020 at 11:03 am | #

        And maybe he will, if he sees his father keeping it together for the sake of his new marriage to Amber’s mom.

        • thejeff
          thejeff
          October 25, 2020 at 1:24 pm | #

          Yeah, that’s a ticking bomb that’ll blow up eventually.

          As far as we know his father isn’t “keeping it together for the sake of his new marriage”, but just isn’t feeling the urge to cheat yet.

          • Regalli
            Regalli
            October 25, 2020 at 9:10 pm | #

            What, you think a relationship that went from meeting to marriage within four and a half to five months might NOT be on solid ground once the honeymoon phase ends? Which, given the phase only even STARTS wearing off around six months in and we don’t know exactly when it went from hookup to dating, it almost certainly hasn’t yet? Preposterous.

            Seriously, they were seriously contemplating marriage – hell, I think even planning it – by mid-late October at latest after meeting in early September or so. And Richard was showing some serious magical thinking when he discussed it with Joe. That they’re married now is not REMOTELY a sign he’s not going to cheat, because they’re very much still in that new relationship stage.

  25. woobie
    woobie
    October 25, 2020 at 1:41 am | #

    I see few parallels between Joe and Shinji.
    Joyce and Asuka, sure.

  26. Sporky
    Sporky
    October 25, 2020 at 2:01 am | #

    Soon, dairy…

  27. Jay
    Jay
    October 25, 2020 at 2:04 am | #

    I mean, Joe’s not wrong?

    He isn’t really equipped to help Amber out, what Amber needs is therapy.

    Also just admit you wanna sleep with him, dammit Joyce *gets flag ready to sail*

  28. StClair
    StClair
    October 25, 2020 at 2:46 am | #

    Whole lot of Not Caring going on in this strip.

  29. BenRG
    BenRG
    October 25, 2020 at 2:52 am | #

    Oh, yeah! I’d forgotten that Joyce and Joe have grown a lot closer. It seems that they have got close enough that, at some level, Joyce is feeling the ‘prospective boyfriend fixer-upper project’ thing towards him!

    Meanwhile, Becky has reason to be worried: Is Joyce an unanchored tsundere?

  30. DarkoNeko
    DarkoNeko
    October 25, 2020 at 2:53 am | #

    and then Becky repeat what Joyce said in panel 3

  31. Keulen
    Keulen
    October 25, 2020 at 3:14 am | #

    I’m getting some tsundere vibes from Joyce and possibly Joe as well here.

  32. Eldritchy
    Eldritchy
    October 25, 2020 at 4:26 am | #

    Brother huh? I feel like some serious drama went down in the Brown household…

    • Geneseepaws
      Geneseepaws
      October 25, 2020 at 10:10 am | #

      I was just looking at the converse, (inverse?). Joyce being so keyed-up from emotionally prepping for the Tsunder of up-coming Turkey-Day occurring, that when she went to the Holliday Inn For Thanksgiving to be with her Sibs, (Since Dad is living there? Maybe?) and Not home to the Crazy-Mom™️, so, maybe she is still keyed up?

      • Geneseepaws
        Geneseepaws
        October 25, 2020 at 10:12 am | #

        From unreleased emotional barricading,..” idunno, it’s how it looks from where I stand (or sit).

  33. Bagge
    Bagge
    October 25, 2020 at 4:30 am | #

    Sarah just knows she is going to get dragged into some bullshit. She just waits for the other shoe to drop.

  34. Rabisch
    Rabisch
    October 25, 2020 at 8:26 am | #

    I think Sarah is starting to get a weird feeling about why Joyce’s care so much of Joe.

  35. Needfuldoer
    Needfuldoer
    October 25, 2020 at 9:56 am | #

    Joyce: “I don’t care!”
    Ron Howard’s disembodied voice: “She did.”

  36. RedCat
    RedCat
    October 25, 2020 at 11:34 am | #

    But why does Joe care that Joyce cares that Joe cares.

  37. Ziggy78eog
    Ziggy78eog
    October 25, 2020 at 11:59 am | #

    It is less about Joe, and more about how eff’ed up Amber’s family life used to be. Despite her mom’s best efforts, Amber never really had a loving, supportive, family, and Joyce just wants Joe to be that. Unfortunately, Joe’s brain is still in his pants.

    • thejeff
      thejeff
      October 25, 2020 at 1:23 pm | #

      Also, Amber isn’t interested in being “brothered” by this guy she hardly knows who’s got a lousy reputation and comes along with her mother’s remarriage to a guy with another lousy reputation and no reason to trust.

  38. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    October 25, 2020 at 12:15 pm | #

    Sorta admire Joe saying out loud “I am not equipped to do that well!”, trying to fend off Joyce’s instructions.

  39. fire_daws
    fire_daws
    October 25, 2020 at 12:39 pm | #

    After looking at the alt-text I’m wondering what Joyce would look like with pigtails.

    • Demoted Oblivious
      Demoted Oblivious
      October 25, 2020 at 5:02 pm | #

      Sarah has an idea of what Joyce looks like with pigtails.

  40. Mister Gray
    Mister Gray
    October 25, 2020 at 1:04 pm | #

    I still ship Joe and Joyce.

  41. Josh Spicer
    Josh Spicer
    October 25, 2020 at 1:13 pm | #

    Curse my shipping mind cause god dammit I love this.

    Joe does care but won’t admit it.

    Joyce knows that Joe cares.

    Joyce also cares that Joe cares.

    Joe knows that Joyce cares that Joe cares.

    GAH! WHY WAS I CURSED WITH THIS?!

  42. Cool Beans
    Cool Beans
    October 25, 2020 at 3:10 pm | #

    Over a hundred comments and Jen still hasn’t commented? Strange

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      October 25, 2020 at 4:34 pm | #

      The temporal disruption field she uses to always post first must have collapsed. Where in time is Carmen Sandiego Jen Aside?

  43. Dracke
    Dracke
    October 25, 2020 at 9:29 pm | #

    I have an adoptive sibling and I love her like I love my other siblings, and honestly more than my half-siblings…but you can’t force someone to love someone just cause you to share blood, cause your parents married, cause they adopted a child…or in this case cause your parents are dating…Joe really has no responsibility for Amber…she is an adult an a Mess who should be having Therapeutic help like honestly everyone in the cast after what they went thru.

  44. Victor Riley
    Victor Riley
    October 28, 2020 at 11:34 am | #

    “I’m not equipped to do that well” is a line I’m going to have to use more in my everyday conversations.

  45. Luis
    Luis
    October 28, 2020 at 2:01 pm | #

    I dislike the whole “She’s your responsibility” bit sooo much dude.

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