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Pants are a tool of oppression and fear. I admit to wearing them at night, when nobody else is in remote danger of seeing my horribly pale legs, just in case somebody happens by. It’s a problem.
Okay, I have to ask: what do y’all have against pants ? Is it because they feel uncomfy to you ? If so, how ?
All of this pants-induced hatred perplexes me… even after a huge meal where I’ve eaten so much that my pants don’t fit properly anymore, I barely feel a mild annoyance towards them, and that lasts for only as long as I can’t undo a button…
I actually like pants when I want to not be cold but also stockings suck bc they always feel like I’m wearing the tight version of Hammer Pants bc idk why they never stay right up at my crotch
They’re tight, they often lack pockets, and they make certain areas overly warm causing sweat, discomfort, and potentially chafing.
Skirts and dresses offer less warmth, but are far more breathable (addressing issues 1 and 3). And, since I tend to run hot, the lesser warmth it a bonus except in the worst of winter.
They still don’t have pockets very often, but that’s neutral.
If and when I design clothing, I will DEFINITELY add pockets to the pants! I mean, what the fuck? And all the while the gender binary can suck my octogon!!!
I’ve got two small dogs. They’re each 8 pounds, so their clothes are mostly interchangeable. One is a toy poodle, the other is a chihuahua.
1. The entire world thinks the poodle is the girl, the chihuahua is the boy. Sometimes people argue with me when I say it’s the other way around. Dogs aren’t like cats, people, they keep their parts on the outside! You can see which one lefts his leg to pee!
2. They have sweaters for cold weather, and no joke, we have one set where the “boy coded” sweater in red and blue has an actual functional pocket on the back but the “girl coded” sweater in pink and gold has a little fake pocket flap. The pocket conspiracy even extends to dog clothing.
When my legs cramp or tense up and tingle really badly and I can’t stand having ANYTHING on them? You’re fucking right they’re coming off when I get home and I either change into my PJs (which are looser and comfier, and usually shorts so they’re not touching much of my legs anyway) OR I have a long shirt on and so am not worried about my underwear.
My first idea was: pants are a mean of male domination, so robes are better (and unisex) so it’s an antipatriarchal statement
My second idea was: it’s likely the fabric of most pants is bad and good fabric is expensive so it’s a social statement.
My third idea was weird: it’s easier for potty training, so it’s an educational statement.
The idea that never was is : it’s an environmental statement because having less clothes in winter is sensible, you just have to put the heat on the superior level.
Leprechauns, if I’m not mistaken, were normally at odds with the Irish. So even though our knowledge of them comes from the Irish, it feels to me like they’re more likely either Welsh or Scottish, with an off-chance of English. Given the weather on Dagobah, it feels like Scottish is probably closer to the mark.
Hell, even there he talks normal plenty of times. The whole “Yoda Speak” thing is mostly people latching onto his iconic quirk for the sake of vocal impressions.
Alright, so you’re gonna start with “Mind” and then read the sentence from left to right, until you’ve hit “learned”, at which point you’re gonna be at the end and therefore done reading it.
This is a big step for Joyce. Normally she is very picky about her food, but here she is eating out of a bag of chips that had David’s hands (and likely saliva) all over them. Just Eww…
I honestly didn’t expect this to go as well as it did, so good on you Walky. Also I’m glad she ditched the pants, as I’ve always said, “Pants are where home aren’t.”
I disagree. Dorothy Joyce to actually talk to Becky and address the problem instead of continuing to make excuses to ignore it. Joyce wouldn’t be at this point were it not for Dorothy.
Well, what point is she at so far? Did she accomplish anything by having Dorothy and Becky with her last night, where neither of them really reached out to her? Did Dorothy do right by Joyce in telling her that Becky was going to stop being friends with her unless Joyce fixed this problem, a problem Dorothy has helped cause, right this instant?
Dorothy’s advice was “find a nice deism,” Walky tells her to find a way to chill out to get away from missing a painful routine.
I imagine most conversations are gonna be like this for Joyce when she’s not talking to people who have a vested interest in her remaining who she was.
Yeah, but those outfits are currently buried in Veracruz, New Orleans, a forest in Nova Scotia, and South Korea. There’s a reason her hair is such a vibrant color and why, despite allegedly being from Canada, she’s yet to speak in anything approximating an Irish accent, to say nothing of how nervous she gets any time somebody says the name “Daniella Lewell”.
On the first point – I was wondering that. She doesn’t seem to be carrying them in the final panel.
Pants like that aren’t cheap – even if she’s going panty-casual, she should still pick them up.
That is a choice Star Trek TNG reference there.
I just watched a clip on Youtube where they demonstrated that if everyone had listened to Worf during the meeting, the episode would have just ended with no further complications.
We know she weaseled out of watching Lord of the Rings at one point because of how long those movies are, which is her loss but it does show that her peers are encouraging her to watch secular movies and given her peer group Star Wars is a pretty likely candidate
Joyce randomly flinging her pants off in the middle of the hallway is the latest in a series of things that feel like Yoto’s fanart and yet are inexplicably a part of the DoA canon.
I also find that my stress levels drop considerably when I take off my pants. It’s even better when my wife does it as well, but I suppose I can spare you the rest of the details.
Look, we’re well past the early days of the pandemic, reusable masks are cheap and wildly available, and you don’t have to jury-rig something out of other pieces of clothing anymore.
oh i know what you mean. When i realized I enjoyed cross-dressing bras did become a necessity. The balled-up scarfs wouldn’t hold up in there by themselves.
I find it hard to believe that someone as neurotic as Joyce (no food textures touching each other, she made bizarre milk carton platform shoes to avoid the bathroom floor) is okay with 1) being in her socks in a public hallway [mega gross] and 2) being pantless in also said public hallway
It’s possible I’m projecting my own neurodivergent preferences onto her, but I would rather turn my skin inside out than have my otherwise clean socks touch the nasty hallway dorm carpet that only gets cleaned when someone vomits. Plus for someone who (up until recently?) could not even say the word “sex” she’s awfully nonchalant about the possibility of a BOY seeing her underwear. Didn’t she once cover up Sarah’s entire head so Sarah would not see her changing? What happened to that?
At the risk of pushing my trash gobling shipper status to uncomfortable lengths, it’d be deeply amusing to me if Joyce decided she wanted to experiment having sex with an experienced guy she trusts and is friends with, and then that’s Joe; a guy we just found out doesn’t want to be an ex-Christian weirdo innocent’s first brush with sin because he is deadass in love.
i like to imagine some harried employee frantically phoning higher and higher ups while the queue behind you grows, until someone finally greenlights the selling of more than 6 bullet vibes and triumphantly they turn back to you and ask how many you want to buy and you go, what? zero, i have what i need at home already, anyway who the fuck buys more than one maybe two bullet vibes at once, don’t be ridiculous. i just want some toothpaste.
Hell, I plum forgot to check while we were out shopping last night. Next time I get a chance to leave the house, I’ll make a point of pestering those poor, unfortunate souls.
This may have been one of the most wholesome Wally/Joyce interactions to date ♥️ I hope this helps with her neuroses, and also at some point that Becky understands how incredibly stressful Joyce found the doublethink she thought she needed to do in order to be Christian correctly, and the fear that she didn’t actually feel the connection to the divinity that she should do. Yes, she’s being annoying AF, and rude and arrogant etc, but Joyce’s rejection of religion really isn’t just s middle finger raised at her mother. Becky picked and chose; Joyce didn’t think that was an option and did mental contortions because she thought she had to believe everything, no matter how contradictory it may be. Becky feels a connection to a higher power that supports and comforts her; Joyce felt an overwhelming panic that she didn’t feel that properly and would be left behind when the Rapture happened, and she would be revealed as a fraud.
… huh. That’s beautifully insightful and masterfully encapsulates some very thoughtful explanations of things that I myself had not considered about how different people view Christian dogma in the US.
Specifically, the idea that Joyce and Becky’s issue is that Joyce is still following the ‘you have to believe everything’ model, just in reverse. It explains so much not just about Joyce but about a lot of people.
Given the ages of these characters, do you think they’ll still be slinging Star Wars references, especialy from the original trilogy? Will some GenZs comment?
I’ve said it dozens of times and I’ll say it again. People can like and reference things that existed more than five years before their birth. Especially nowadays, when just about any movie or song you want is available either for free or for a relatively reasonable price, all digitally accessible and often bundled together. There’s absolutely nothing odd about this in the digital age.
Not only that, but Star Wars is such a pervasive cultural touchstone that it’s in the mainstream background noise. The original trilogy has seen theatrical re-releases, multiple releases on every home video format (including streaming), and decades of cable TV airtime. Even if somebody somehow managed to dodge all that, they’re bound to recognize the main characters and memes like “Luke, use the force”, “I am your father”, and backwards Yoda speaks.
Yeah, like have you seen how things like Columbo have surges in popularity? People finding and enjoying old shit is normal, especially for something as culturally ubiquitous as Star Wars
My youngest son is really into Columbo. PS Some years ago I was completely stunned to learn my boss had never heard of Casablanca. My wife and
I can do whole scenes verbatim. Same for Harvey and The Philadelphia Story.
Yes, but people need to know about it and seek it out, it’s not like it’s automatically downloaded.
Just wanted to get a feel of it from the younger readers here. My partner and I have quite a bit of an age gap; they knew nothing about Star Wars until I introduced it to them.
I regularly quote the Marx Brothers and Abbott and Costello, and they were big well before my parents were born. My favorite cartoon as a very young was Scooby Doo, which stopped airing new episodes before I was born and didn’t start airing new ones until I had moved on to other cartoons.
People can be very attached to things that aren’t technically current, it’s not unusual IMO.
I’m a Millennial not Gen Z, but yeah I got into Star Wars in the early 90s before the prequel trilogy came out, because my parents introduced me to it when I was a kid.
I didn’t see the first one until my senior year of high school (this was about ten years ago, now) when we watched it in my AP English class. But still, I went in knowing the basics, who the main characters were and the main plot points of that and future movies. Most of my classmates, though, didn’t really know much about Star Wars. Like, they didn’t know Luke and Leia were siblings and were shipping them while we watched. But then, most of my classmates had parents who had immigrated to the US and had different cultural backgrounds than I did.
He gives her a bag of his favorite-favorite snack, and then she takes off her pants? Clearly this means that they are soulmates, almost as if, in some parallel universe, they are a couple…
My only Star Wars hot take is that I get really gleeful when boomer nerds get huffy about Boba Fett being popular.
Like they’ll dry heave laugh at any other boomer nerd for getting huffy because Han had a lightsaber in a comic or that one cartoon rabbit dude or the Grey Jedi or whatever, but noooooo you aren’t allowed to think Boba Fett is cool he only stood there menacingly and died in the Sarlacc Pit so if you think any new thing involving him is good that makes you attached to this boring character with a cool design to the point where they got more in-canon relevance, that thing that definitely has never happened ever to any other character.
I like to imagine that under his armor, he’s wearing the hottest little pink panties you’ve ever seen in your life, and that’s where he gets his confidence.
Part of it is there was this time in the 90s-00s when a bunch of douchebags were obsessed with him like he was this badass emotionless Punisher figure, and that’s why Disney latched onto him, so it’s kind of a reflexive fandom gripe missing context.
Okay but now they’re like 45 and it’s still the same nerdrage filtered through an action figure getting more popular than they think it deserves, as if Star Wars is this sacred text in need of protection and not some pulp sci-fi that won’t just go away that’s routinely laughed about every other opportunity.
Boba Fett starting to meaningfully appear in stuff, as if is he is a cool looking character who’s enough of a blank slate that you can basically do whatever you want with him that already has a built-in level of popularity, feels like karmic backlash against nerdlingers who nerdlinged so hard they became the fandom douchebags.
Heh, I guess that makes sense. I was both slightly too young and way too tuned out of Star Wars to really be part of that drama, and to my knowledge the new Boba Fett is actually a cool and complex character, not the “the Punisher in Spaaaaace” archetype people decided to project onto the former blank slate. I just sympathize with the idea of disliking said Punisher in Spaaaaaaace archetype, regardless of source.
It was even before the 90s really. People latched onto him from the very beginning. He became a big thing in fandom right away, despite his lack of presence in the actual films. Apparently he was in some of the ESB trailers? People likely latched onto him then, expecting he’d be bigger in the movie than he was.
So he showed up in books and comics and then got nods to him in the prequels and in the cartoons, all long before Disney got involved.
I think they’re part of the same friendship group that walks to Maths together etc. Becky and Walky are actually friends, and have both also traditionally teased Joyce in similar ways (though Joyce takes it better from Becky – as the youngest sibling and only girl to her knowledge, Joyce may feel she’s been teased by boys ENOUGH, or it could be that Becky mixes it up with things like hand-picking the pepperoni off Joyce’s pizza for her, and she knows the teasing comes from a place of love, while she tends to just think of Walky as a goof). They also got kidnapped and battered goons together which probably acts as a bit of a bonding experience.
Definitely somewhere in the region of friendly! These interactions definitely seem in keeping with the two of them and how they relate to eachother…
Great job on the being less hung up about appearances and performance but also… no one asked to see Walky’s pants walking around and really, the same goes for Joyce.
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GOOD GIRL
PANTS ARE FOR THE WEAK
(and those of the cold legs I guess)
Hear hear!
Pants are the root of all unhappiness. https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2014-04-21
Yes! Preach it sister!
Also socks and shoes (totes with Sierra on that one), except in winter, but I’ll leave that hill for another day.
Also, I feel like I misspelled Sierra, but Google says I’m good, so… ?
You’re good. That’s correct for the mountains, the Dumbing of Age character, and the pickup truck.
You said it, sister!
Pants are a tool of oppression and fear. I admit to wearing them at night, when nobody else is in remote danger of seeing my horribly pale legs, just in case somebody happens by. It’s a problem.
You don’t need pants for the victory dance, anyway.
Pants are for the weak!
But Sunday’s on the weekend
I appreciate your pun, Kelibath
Okay, I have to ask: what do y’all have against pants ? Is it because they feel uncomfy to you ? If so, how ?
All of this pants-induced hatred perplexes me… even after a huge meal where I’ve eaten so much that my pants don’t fit properly anymore, I barely feel a mild annoyance towards them, and that lasts for only as long as I can’t undo a button…
Mostly the camaraderie of the Pant-Hate Party
I actually like pants when I want to not be cold but also stockings suck bc they always feel like I’m wearing the tight version of Hammer Pants bc idk why they never stay right up at my crotch
They’re tight, they often lack pockets, and they make certain areas overly warm causing sweat, discomfort, and potentially chafing.
Skirts and dresses offer less warmth, but are far more breathable (addressing issues 1 and 3). And, since I tend to run hot, the lesser warmth it a bonus except in the worst of winter.
They still don’t have pockets very often, but that’s neutral.
If and when I design clothing, I will DEFINITELY add pockets to the pants! I mean, what the fuck? And all the while the gender binary can suck my octogon!!!
I’ve got two small dogs. They’re each 8 pounds, so their clothes are mostly interchangeable. One is a toy poodle, the other is a chihuahua.
1. The entire world thinks the poodle is the girl, the chihuahua is the boy. Sometimes people argue with me when I say it’s the other way around. Dogs aren’t like cats, people, they keep their parts on the outside! You can see which one lefts his leg to pee!
2. They have sweaters for cold weather, and no joke, we have one set where the “boy coded” sweater in red and blue has an actual functional pocket on the back but the “girl coded” sweater in pink and gold has a little fake pocket flap. The pocket conspiracy even extends to dog clothing.
My girl dog lifts her leg to pee. My boy dog does not. Dogs are weird.
Your problem seems to be wearing woman pants. Man pants have pockets almost always. You should try them!
99% of the time? Nothing.
When my legs cramp or tense up and tingle really badly and I can’t stand having ANYTHING on them? You’re fucking right they’re coming off when I get home and I either change into my PJs (which are looser and comfier, and usually shorts so they’re not touching much of my legs anyway) OR I have a long shirt on and so am not worried about my underwear.
A shark told me to ban them, and as a mere shrimp I had no choice but to follow her sage words
My first idea was: pants are a mean of male domination, so robes are better (and unisex) so it’s an antipatriarchal statement
My second idea was: it’s likely the fabric of most pants is bad and good fabric is expensive so it’s a social statement.
My third idea was weird: it’s easier for potty training, so it’s an educational statement.
The idea that never was is : it’s an environmental statement because having less clothes in winter is sensible, you just have to put the heat on the superior level.
Gondor has no pants!
Gondor NEEDS no pants!
The gospel of Walky
If Joe still wants to get in Joyce’s pants, now’s his chance, she just left them in the hallway.
I don’t think they’d fit him.
He could wear them like a two-fingered tipless glove on his archery hand. maybe?
Joe: “I am the bone of my sword…”
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Every day is a winding road
But is Joyce getting a little closer
Looking forward to Joyce feeling fine.
#PantsAreEvil
“¡No, no, no! ¡No más pantalones!”
(My favorite protest chant of 2003-2007.)
One small step towards the washing machine,
One giant leap for Joyce!
What does it say about me that I not only understand the washing machine reference, but I approve of it as well?
“Pants are an illusion, and so is death.”
Beat me to it.
“Pants are an illusion. Sundays doubly so.”
(H/t to Douglas Adams)
Okay, how do you translate ‘mind what you have learned’? The other two were easy enough to parse but that one didn’t make sense.
mind. v. to regard with attention; consider important
“Mind” is a verb in that sentence, meaning something like “heed” or “remember.”
I’m aware of that, but the other two sentences were in Yoda talk so I was trying to figure out how to flip the sentence so it made sense.
It’s a direct quote from Yoda in Empire Strikes Back, and it’s not flipped. The sentence structure is unusual enough as it is.
This is how you can tell my only knowledge of the series is cultural osmosis.
That… is why you fail.
Your homework for this weekend is to watch the original Star Wars trilogy, preferably the despecialized editions. There will be a test on Monday.
(Seriously, they still hold up!)
If you’ve got Gisnep+ or access to it, they have the Maclunkey Cut of Episode 4.
It took me an embarrassingly long time to realize that your spelling there was a play on the weird cursive font they use.
The original trilogy is probably mandatory viewing just for film history reasons. Genuinely revolutionary movies in terms of special effects.
That’s why the despecialized editions are worth tracking down. They restored the practical effects that were buried under years of CG.
Yoda uses “mind” as a verb meaning “remember”?
Is … is Yoda Scottish?
The weather on Dagobah is about right, so I’m gonna go with yes.
It’s just “mind” as in “mind your own business”!
How about “consider important”?
Or “mind your manners”.
Either way, Yoda is clearly a bald leprechaun, which would make him Irish.
Would it really?
Leprechauns, if I’m not mistaken, were normally at odds with the Irish. So even though our knowledge of them comes from the Irish, it feels to me like they’re more likely either Welsh or Scottish, with an off-chance of English. Given the weather on Dagobah, it feels like Scottish is probably closer to the mark.
That would explain a lot.
wait is that a weird thing to do?
Yoda didn’t exclusively talk like that until he got flanderized in the prequels
Hell, even there he talks normal plenty of times. The whole “Yoda Speak” thing is mostly people latching onto his iconic quirk for the sake of vocal impressions.
Speaking of Yoda …
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f5/66/ca/f566cac80ed713556d160b85f815b740.gif
Alright, so you’re gonna start with “Mind” and then read the sentence from left to right, until you’ve hit “learned”, at which point you’re gonna be at the end and therefore done reading it.
(/smartass)
Walky: Mind what you have learned. Save you it will.
Joyce: kicks off pants and eats nachos.
Conclusion: Joyce has been saved.
Good. Gooooood.
Your pants … need them you will not.
But Luke brought his pants into the Scary Low-FPS Cave.
May the pants be without you.
This is a big step for Joyce. Normally she is very picky about her food, but here she is eating out of a bag of chips that had David’s hands (and likely saliva) all over them. Just Eww…
I’m sure Walky did not breathe directly into the bag and get his saliva over them. Besides, relaxation comes with more reasonable standards.
The question then is thus: is Walky the kind of person to lick crumbs from his fingers and then put his hand back in the bag?
Yes. Obviously. And the only person ever to tell him that was gross was Billie, so he discarded that fact and moved on.
The circle is complete. Now Walky is the master.
I honestly didn’t expect this to go as well as it did, so good on you Walky. Also I’m glad she ditched the pants, as I’ve always said, “Pants are where home aren’t.”
Walky’s done more to help Joyce then Dorothy and he’s only been aware of her crisis for a few minutes tops
Either he’s really smart, or like most success, this is down to random chance.
He just rolled high on Persuasion
I disagree. Dorothy Joyce to actually talk to Becky and address the problem instead of continuing to make excuses to ignore it. Joyce wouldn’t be at this point were it not for Dorothy.
Right, they both honestly have given some decent advice.
Well, what point is she at so far? Did she accomplish anything by having Dorothy and Becky with her last night, where neither of them really reached out to her? Did Dorothy do right by Joyce in telling her that Becky was going to stop being friends with her unless Joyce fixed this problem, a problem Dorothy has helped cause, right this instant?
Dorothy’s advice was “find a nice deism,” Walky tells her to find a way to chill out to get away from missing a painful routine.
I imagine most conversations are gonna be like this for Joyce when she’s not talking to people who have a vested interest in her remaining who she was.
Agreed.
Wait, a second, did she just abandon her pants in the middle of the hallway? Ruth might have something to say about that.
Starting with “what the actual fuck?”
Followed by “Size six? Score, free pants.”
Alternatively followed by looking at her beverage, wincing, and pouring it out.
And hanging them on her wall next to Walky’s shoes.
One day, she’ll have an entire captured outfit.
Bold of you to assume it has not already happened multiple times.
Yeah, but those outfits are currently buried in Veracruz, New Orleans, a forest in Nova Scotia, and South Korea. There’s a reason her hair is such a vibrant color and why, despite allegedly being from Canada, she’s yet to speak in anything approximating an Irish accent, to say nothing of how nervous she gets any time somebody says the name “Daniella Lewell”.
This is the cue for a Sherlock Holmes expy to come out of the elevator and deduce the entire DoA plot so far from Joyce’s pants.
Yeah, it’s been a while since Booster came around. /smartass
Riiiiiight there with ya.
“Guess I’d better go return these to Dorothy’s room.”
On the first point – I was wondering that. She doesn’t seem to be carrying them in the final panel.
Pants like that aren’t cheap – even if she’s going panty-casual, she should still pick them up.
“Abandon pants! Repeat, all hands abandon–”
*Joyce
explodesmakes a FAAACE for the sixth time this episode**cut to commercial*
That is a choice Star Trek TNG reference there.
I just watched a clip on Youtube where they demonstrated that if everyone had listened to Worf during the meeting, the episode would have just ended with no further complications.
… how did she undo the fly without using her hands?
She’s just a natural, it takes most people a lomg time to figure out that trick.
(Those registered as jeans to me, but something with a drawstring presents its own problems)
They still look like jeans to me although if they are lounge pants then it is even easier. I can remove my lounge pants without my hands easy enough.
Boring answer: she undid the fly between panels.
Correct answer: she used the Force
Alternate ’80s answer: she used the Zapped.
The Sunday is strong in this one.
I find this oddly heartwarming that she learned something from Walky.
“Join The Slacker Coalition: We Have Nachitos”
*kindly borrows Muzak and plays “Fight on in Other World”*
Wait, how could I have been so careless?!?!
A Sunday calls for the V.S. Sunday OST!!!


…what the fuck ?
Raise your hand if you think Joyce has no idea what Walky was referencing just then.
I know Joyce watched the prequel trilogies because she talked about it. I can’t recall what she said about the original trilogy.
She was only allowed to watch the parts that involved trade embargos.
But maybe she’s watched them since then.
We know she weaseled out of watching Lord of the Rings at one point because of how long those movies are, which is her loss but it does show that her peers are encouraging her to watch secular movies and given her peer group Star Wars is a pretty likely candidate
*searches for a Yoto post for a tasteful lewd*
I love Yoto’s lewds, but I’m not sure “tasteful” is the right word for them. I mean, they’re not tasteLESS, but more like… taste-neutral?
Uh, the word you’re looking for is t”asty“, the adjective form of “taste”.
The T appears to have gone rogue. Don’t panic.
First, Joyce’s pants go rogue, and then her T?
The moment she absent-mindedly tries to wipe her fingers on her pants, it’ll taste like nachitos.
Joyce randomly flinging her pants off in the middle of the hallway is the latest in a series of things that feel like Yoto’s fanart and yet are inexplicably a part of the DoA canon.
beware the power of the Dork Side
May it be with you always.
The Dork Side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural.
So she just straight up left her pants in the middle of the hall, huh?
yeah that’s bugging me too
I guess she just really didn’t want those pants anymore.
Fuck yeah, Joyce! Enjoy the Sunday.
And nothing makes me happier than Walky taking Joyce as his relaxation Padawan.
I feel so inspired right now! (Not sarcasm)
Are you wearing pants?
just realised nachitos are not a real product
Bland Name Product
well done, Joyce
The long and winding road
That leads to no pants…
Now she’s ready for the pants-off dance-off.
No God! No Fucks! No Pants!
No pants! Then fuck! Oh god!
If I could thumbs up your comment I totally would.
Well done. gives you claps
Time for a beer?
I also find that my stress levels drop considerably when I take off my pants. It’s even better when my wife does it as well, but I suppose I can spare you the rest of the details.
Is this one of those, “spare the rod, spoil the child,” scenarios I’ve heard of?
If you spare the rod, where’s the child gonna come from?
If you want both a rod and staff to comfort you, you need to date a Klingon.
this is a hell of a conversation to walk into, let me tell you
The pandemic has taught me that bras and pants are so unnecessary
I was beginning to worry that the pandemic would make a bra necessary for me. My wife would have found that awkward, to say the least.
Look, we’re well past the early days of the pandemic, reusable masks are cheap and wildly available, and you don’t have to jury-rig something out of other pieces of clothing anymore.
Honestly, for a lot of “guys” I know, it certainly did become a necessity.
oh i know what you mean. When i realized I enjoyed cross-dressing bras did become a necessity. The balled-up scarfs wouldn’t hold up in there by themselves.
(i don’t actually know what you mean)
Lotta folks went into lockdown, had a lot of time to think to themselves, and came out the other end trans.
ah ok! makes sense =)
You said it, slick!
Wouldn’t be too bad if you were both the same size.
Random college student in hallway later: sweet; free pants
I find it hard to believe that someone as neurotic as Joyce (no food textures touching each other, she made bizarre milk carton platform shoes to avoid the bathroom floor) is okay with 1) being in her socks in a public hallway [mega gross] and 2) being pantless in also said public hallway
It’s possible I’m projecting my own neurodivergent preferences onto her, but I would rather turn my skin inside out than have my otherwise clean socks touch the nasty hallway dorm carpet that only gets cleaned when someone vomits. Plus for someone who (up until recently?) could not even say the word “sex” she’s awfully nonchalant about the possibility of a BOY seeing her underwear. Didn’t she once cover up Sarah’s entire head so Sarah would not see her changing? What happened to that?
Communion withdrawal symptoms are powerful stuff.
Tomorrow, first panel: Joyce running back to grab her pants.
I’m assuming this will happen either next strip or soon after that.
Joyce has started eating foods that touch each other. She even found out that she likes some of them that way.
Huh, been a while since we’ve seen that. SAUCE?
Probably a marinara variant, since the food in question was a sausage pizza and she’s white.
She mentioned it when she re-confronted Becky at Galasso’s, but it also could’ve just been that strip’s punchline.
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2021/comic/book-12/02-ill-leave-you-a-phantom/picked/
I don’t think we’ve seen her eat mixed foods on-panel yet.
Agreed. I don’t like using socks as slippers, either. Put shoes on or take the socks off.
Next to loose her pants: Dina
https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/03-up-all-night-to-get-vengeance/assimilation/
One can only hope.
Becky might explode if that happens and she finds them both at the same time.
Few duos are as tempting for a young gay.
I have a hunch something along those lines WILL happen, except Dina won’t exactly be missing pants.
Yeah, she’ll be missing her shirt.
Not her hat?
The hat was subtext.
She’ll be missing her subtext.
i miss my subtext *sniff*
Pantless Joyce. We are blessed this day
The Willis taketh, truly, but also the Willis giveth.
Blessed be the Willis.
For He may bring us Sorrows; but He also brings us Joyce.
Yes Joyce, join the pantsless side!
From no pepper to no pants in one week. Great work, Joyce (& Willis)!
Joyce is going to have sex instead of going to church today. Calling it.
Okay, I hate the change in gravatar from, most recently, Becky… but I cannot deny it’s appropriate given the tenor of my comment.
I don’t see Joyce being comfortable with sex yet, much like Liz wasn’t despite how she acted.
At the risk of pushing my trash gobling shipper status to uncomfortable lengths, it’d be deeply amusing to me if Joyce decided she wanted to experiment having sex with an experienced guy she trusts and is friends with, and then that’s Joe; a guy we just found out doesn’t want to be an ex-Christian weirdo innocent’s first brush with sin because he is deadass in love.
she got the vibe fast
No, that’s something she still doesn’t have.
Yeah, we talked about that yesterday, keep up. /smartass
speaking of, have you been to CVS yet Taffy?
i like to imagine some harried employee frantically phoning higher and higher ups while the queue behind you grows, until someone finally greenlights the selling of more than 6 bullet vibes and triumphantly they turn back to you and ask how many you want to buy and you go, what? zero, i have what i need at home already, anyway who the fuck buys more than one maybe two bullet vibes at once, don’t be ridiculous. i just want some toothpaste.
Hell, I plum forgot to check while we were out shopping last night. Next time I get a chance to leave the house, I’ll make a point of pestering those poor, unfortunate souls.
Damn, she’s good.
No pants? Is she channeling Largo from Megatokyo?
Next thing we know, she’ll be setting up a liquid cooling system for her PC using beer for the liquid.
C134r1y n0+.
She’s not grabbed the kitsune by the tail just yet
Do not squeeze the loaded nine-tail.
When I first saw that line, I thought it should be on a T-shirt.
This may have been one of the most wholesome Wally/Joyce interactions to date ♥️ I hope this helps with her neuroses, and also at some point that Becky understands how incredibly stressful Joyce found the doublethink she thought she needed to do in order to be Christian correctly, and the fear that she didn’t actually feel the connection to the divinity that she should do. Yes, she’s being annoying AF, and rude and arrogant etc, but Joyce’s rejection of religion really isn’t just s middle finger raised at her mother. Becky picked and chose; Joyce didn’t think that was an option and did mental contortions because she thought she had to believe everything, no matter how contradictory it may be. Becky feels a connection to a higher power that supports and comforts her; Joyce felt an overwhelming panic that she didn’t feel that properly and would be left behind when the Rapture happened, and she would be revealed as a fraud.
… huh. That’s beautifully insightful and masterfully encapsulates some very thoughtful explanations of things that I myself had not considered about how different people view Christian dogma in the US.
Specifically, the idea that Joyce and Becky’s issue is that Joyce is still following the ‘you have to believe everything’ model, just in reverse. It explains so much not just about Joyce but about a lot of people.
Joes going to be around the corner and there may be confused horniness. Im betting a dollar for your mom.
New Slipshine title: Joyce drops her pants.
*pounding the table* Legs! Legs! Legs! Legs!
She know how to use them.
(Alternate joke: the 9CL abyss is now staring back. Tomorrow brings the airbrush shading. Sunday’s comic will imply she’s nine feet tall.)
We don’t mention The-Acronym-Which-Must-Not-Be-Named in this place.
or TAWMNBN for short.
You have to put a hashtag before it, else you’ll be summoning the Large-Legged one anyway.
I am ashamed I had to look that up to get it.
walky should go into medicine
“Ask Your Doctor If The Nachitos Cure is right for you.”
I love that she can do this hands-free.
Wonder if she’ll stick with this, or freak out the second someone sees her undies.
Her parents completely missed all the EASTERN RELIGION those movies were indoctrinating her into.
Star Wars leads to Eastern Religion. Eastern Religion leads to Pantslessness. What Pantslessness leads to, we don’t mention in this house.
Operation: A.M.A.T.E.R.A.S.U. is a GO!!!!
Given the ages of these characters, do you think they’ll still be slinging Star Wars references, especialy from the original trilogy? Will some GenZs comment?
I’ve said it dozens of times and I’ll say it again. People can like and reference things that existed more than five years before their birth. Especially nowadays, when just about any movie or song you want is available either for free or for a relatively reasonable price, all digitally accessible and often bundled together. There’s absolutely nothing odd about this in the digital age.
Cosigned.
Not only that, but Star Wars is such a pervasive cultural touchstone that it’s in the mainstream background noise. The original trilogy has seen theatrical re-releases, multiple releases on every home video format (including streaming), and decades of cable TV airtime. Even if somebody somehow managed to dodge all that, they’re bound to recognize the main characters and memes like “Luke, use the force”, “I am your father”, and backwards Yoda speaks.
I actually had a young colleague who didn’t know who Luke’s father was. We made her watch.
Yeah, like have you seen how things like Columbo have surges in popularity? People finding and enjoying old shit is normal, especially for something as culturally ubiquitous as Star Wars
I’ve discovered Columbo thanks to Gianni Matranago.
“Oh just one more thing; I saw you do it. I’m gonna have to send you to the Columbo Dimension.”
My youngest son is really into Columbo. PS Some years ago I was completely stunned to learn my boss had never heard of Casablanca. My wife and
I can do whole scenes verbatim. Same for Harvey and The Philadelphia Story.
Yes, but people need to know about it and seek it out, it’s not like it’s automatically downloaded.
Just wanted to get a feel of it from the younger readers here. My partner and I have quite a bit of an age gap; they knew nothing about Star Wars until I introduced it to them.
I regularly quote the Marx Brothers and Abbott and Costello, and they were big well before my parents were born. My favorite cartoon as a very young was Scooby Doo, which stopped airing new episodes before I was born and didn’t start airing new ones until I had moved on to other cartoons.
People can be very attached to things that aren’t technically current, it’s not unusual IMO.
The Marx Brothers rule.
I think a lot of people get introduced to Star Wars at a young age by their parents. I certainly did
I’m a Millennial not Gen Z, but yeah I got into Star Wars in the early 90s before the prequel trilogy came out, because my parents introduced me to it when I was a kid.
I didn’t see the first one until my senior year of high school (this was about ten years ago, now) when we watched it in my AP English class. But still, I went in knowing the basics, who the main characters were and the main plot points of that and future movies. Most of my classmates, though, didn’t really know much about Star Wars. Like, they didn’t know Luke and Leia were siblings and were shipping them while we watched. But then, most of my classmates had parents who had immigrated to the US and had different cultural backgrounds than I did.
Gotta admire someone who can ditch their pants without using their hands!
The trick is to step on the cuffs to hold.
*to hold them down as you pull a leg out.
Walky being his own case… I don’t actually remember anyone leaving their rooms with no pants on when I was in school.
I’m sure plenty of young women did exactly that.
… granted, they would’ve been wearing skirts, but still.
Here’s a question: Has Joyce seen Star Wars yet? Does she get the reference, or is Walky’s dialogue pure gibberish to her?
It’s a Star Wars reference. Even if you get it, it’s still gibberish.
Finally, someone being honest about that franchise.
Yes, at last some brave soul has been rude about the writing in Star Wars.
I miss those halcyon days where I was cool and alternative for saying Firefly sucks.
rather than today, when the consensus is that the guy who made it sucks.
As long as you’re talking about Firefly and not Coolsville.
Taffy, their eyes uncovered!
Alderaan, when the walls fell
Kayshon, when he became a puppet
Joyce has seen Star Wars. https://www.dumbingofage.com/2014/comic/book-4/03-up-all-night-to-get-vengeance/curlingiron/
I wonder if Walky said that in his best Yoda voice.
That’s the spirit, Joyce!
That girl was our last hope
Walky is a good influence on Joyce.
I have a bad feeling about this.
He gives her a bag of his favorite-favorite snack, and then she takes off her pants? Clearly this means that they are soulmates, almost as if, in some parallel universe, they are a couple…
So THAT’S how you get out of a neuroisis that’s a product of being born into your family. You have to get rid of the bad jeans!
It’s okay, I liked the pun.
i mean, it may take time to let go of your strict discipline, and learn to loosen your belt.
You know what, that ain’t a bad start
Maybe she doesn’t want to leave the pants behind though
My only Star Wars hot take is that I get really gleeful when boomer nerds get huffy about Boba Fett being popular.
Like they’ll dry heave laugh at any other boomer nerd for getting huffy because Han had a lightsaber in a comic or that one cartoon rabbit dude or the Grey Jedi or whatever, but noooooo you aren’t allowed to think Boba Fett is cool he only stood there menacingly and died in the Sarlacc Pit so if you think any new thing involving him is good that makes you attached to this boring character with a cool design to the point where they got more in-canon relevance, that thing that definitely has never happened ever to any other character.
Counterpoint: Boba Fett drinks non-alcoholic American beer on purpose and only reads books that involve dairy cows.
He sounds like a delightful fellow!
I like to imagine that under his armor, he’s wearing the hottest little pink panties you’ve ever seen in your life, and that’s where he gets his confidence.
…well, you’ve managed to make him sound interesting for the first time ever.
Part of it is there was this time in the 90s-00s when a bunch of douchebags were obsessed with him like he was this badass emotionless Punisher figure, and that’s why Disney latched onto him, so it’s kind of a reflexive fandom gripe missing context.
Okay but now they’re like 45 and it’s still the same nerdrage filtered through an action figure getting more popular than they think it deserves, as if Star Wars is this sacred text in need of protection and not some pulp sci-fi that won’t just go away that’s routinely laughed about every other opportunity.
Boba Fett starting to meaningfully appear in stuff, as if is he is a cool looking character who’s enough of a blank slate that you can basically do whatever you want with him that already has a built-in level of popularity, feels like karmic backlash against nerdlingers who nerdlinged so hard they became the fandom douchebags.
People who are 45 now aren’t boomers, they’re GenX.
Everyone forgets we exist.
Nah, I just use boomer the way everyone does these days:
Informal internet slang in reference to the olds.
Heh, I guess that makes sense. I was both slightly too young and way too tuned out of Star Wars to really be part of that drama, and to my knowledge the new Boba Fett is actually a cool and complex character, not the “the Punisher in Spaaaaace” archetype people decided to project onto the former blank slate. I just sympathize with the idea of disliking said Punisher in Spaaaaaaace archetype, regardless of source.
It was even before the 90s really. People latched onto him from the very beginning. He became a big thing in fandom right away, despite his lack of presence in the actual films. Apparently he was in some of the ESB trailers? People likely latched onto him then, expecting he’d be bigger in the movie than he was.
So he showed up in books and comics and then got nods to him in the prequels and in the cartoons, all long before Disney got involved.
He was also in the Holiday Special.
That should have instantly destroyed any coolness he had.
No, his *first appearance* was in the Star Wars Holiday Special.
Actually, according to the books that Disney seems determined to ignore, he didn’t die in the Sarlacc, he got rescued.
Literally the opening sequence of the new Boba Fett TV show is him surviving the sarlacc?
If you’re alone, anywhere
You’re pantless
Pants are a harness
Not during a very cold winter.
the twins sometimes need a harness
A fascinating take on the Netflix hijab scene template.
this strip is very empowering
walky u r winning @ friend
Walky giving his Nachitos to Joyce may be the most selfless act we have witnessed in DoA.
There was that one time when Ruth didn’t murder Mary.
As everything Mary, her femurs are useless.
Yes. Yes. Let the walky flow through you.
Next person coming down the hall: Sweet, free pants!
Why is this so cute
WOW! It’s amazing how fast Joyce has learn. This is absolutely refreshing to see ♡!
Don’t let Joe see this, or we’ll have to send NASA to get his eyebrows back down from orbit.
I love that Nachitos are a tag. Has that always been a thing?
clicking on that tag returns strips as early as 2011, so probably.
otoh it only brings up 11 results, so maybe not super consistently.
So Walky and Joyce are still friends in spite of the comic competition? I like.
“Friends” might be a strong word for their baseline, but sure.
I think they’re part of the same friendship group that walks to Maths together etc. Becky and Walky are actually friends, and have both also traditionally teased Joyce in similar ways (though Joyce takes it better from Becky – as the youngest sibling and only girl to her knowledge, Joyce may feel she’s been teased by boys ENOUGH, or it could be that Becky mixes it up with things like hand-picking the pepperoni off Joyce’s pizza for her, and she knows the teasing comes from a place of love, while she tends to just think of Walky as a goof). They also got kidnapped and battered goons together which probably acts as a bit of a bonding experience.
Definitely somewhere in the region of friendly! These interactions definitely seem in keeping with the two of them and how they relate to eachother…
DOA Godfather: Leave the pants, take the nachitos.
I got this reference.
The fact that she just left those pants out in the hallway . . .
Awesome <3 This is genuine character growth.
I was wondering when the pants would come off.
Great job on the being less hung up about appearances and performance but also… no one asked to see Walky’s pants walking around and really, the same goes for Joyce.
A point perhaps undermined by Fuckface.
A point further undermined by dialectal variants on the word pants.
Now, my only question: did Joyce leave her pants in the hallway?
Now thats how you leave a conversation with style.
Is she really gonna just leave those there?
To be fair, Becky might be seduced to the side of atheism once she learns that it has become a pantless Joyce zone.
I dunno, she resisted hatless Dina.
Depends on her glucose level, really. I mean, if high blood sugar can make for a more generous judge, who knows what it’ll do to Becky?
Literally as soon as I start vibing to IDW Beast Wars the company loses the whole dang license.
My life is the ultimate suffering.
I approve of Walky’s advice giving skills.
Good for her.
“When you find true love…..When you find romance….You’ll pant and pant once more….and THAT’s…A…PAIR..OF…PANTS!!!!” Allan Sherman.
I am very impressed with the handless pants removal skill she has.
No, Joyce! You’ve exposed your femurs to the world! You need your femurs to LIVE!
Is she just leaving her pants on the floor gross.
“Walky………..rogue scholar”
Is it weird that I think this might have been gods idea when he invented Sundays