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Man, I can’t believe the nerve of Dorothy, still trying to keep Joyce in a box instead of letting her blossom into an adult with a partner of her choosing.
you’re not wrong. timescale kind of screws up how long it should take people to notice and say something. Need Jennifer to show up and have enough time not dealing with her own drama, to fix/break this.
Many close friendships reach a point where asking for forgiveness rather than permission really is the more practical thing. Not everyone wants that, and that’s okay, but speaking for myself it’s pretty great.
But might clitblock the girl making a move on his girlfriend, especially if he does so by making the exact same move on said girlfriend only doing it better.
Exactly. Joe’s not clitblocking his girlfriend, how do you think she’s going to feel about her mountain of a boyfriend learning T-Swizzle lyrics with her?
I think T-Swizzle miiight be something I independently started using. Probably to annoy her fans when they wouldn’t leave me alone for having my own taste in music.
Yeah, clamjam. Cockblock rhymes. Clamjam rhymes. But clamblock and clitblock don’t. Rhyme is lubed flow in language; very important to have. i can’t think of anything readily apparent for clit…maybe clitquit?
I had no idea it was Taylor swift. I don’t think I’ve ever actually heard her music. I heard a Pendulum cover of one of her songs, and that’s probably the closest
She’s possibly my least favorite artist ever musically. I can’t believe she’s still around and Katy Perry has faded into the 10’s. If there’s some celeb gossip related reason for this, I wouldn’t know it because I don’t follow celebrities.
I knew people who met and worked alongside Taylor Swift. She apparently treats people as badly as her music treats my ears.
Amazing level of insider knowledge. I on the other hand, only know what I read about any singers on Vox News and NPR. All I can think about is that’s me espresso and for some reason The Last Time I Saw Richard.
Shake it off. There’s a Disney Princess fanmade version (and a kids one) on YouTube that my girls both loved when they were around 2-5-ish.
Katy Perry’s Roar was also in the “kids music video rotation” but the middle one has now discovered Sing and Sing 2, and introduced our youngest to those (which include CGI pigs dancing to Shake it Off), so those ones (plus “Time to be Awesome” from the MLP movie, and some other upbeat, empowering ones from the movie Ballerina are more likely to play…
Should also locate the Katy Perry video with the little girl beating up a whole room full of karate jerks and reintroduce it to them…
Taylor’s got a lot of detractors, and with good reason, but honestly? She writes her stuff and Katy doesn’t, and that is a contributing factor to how she enjoys much more credibility with a lot of music fans, though Katy did herself no favors with some really bad career choices at times.
taylor’s dad is richer and her music is more bland and therefore has a wider potential audience (supermarket customers)
i have never liked either singer but at least the world doesn’t try to trick me into hearing katy perry songs 80 times a day and no one yells at me or acts oppressed if i say i don’t like her ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
also statistically speaking someone here should like a genre other than bland pop music
That’s like the exact OPPOSITE of what I’ve heard about TS and the people around her. I’ve only ever heard good things about how she treats people, and that she shares her wealth with employees and every city she performs in. Whoever claimed to work for her and told you that seems be affected by a major case of jealousy.
I honestly wouldn’t believe any rumors, good or bad about Taylor Swift or any celebrity that enjoys her insane level of fame. There’s financial motivation for or against her and a cult like passion with both. I would say as a jaded adult that individuals that enjoy her incredible level of privilege and wealth likely don’t do enough considering the major gaps in quality of life and income in our society.
Idk, maybe she got nicer over time or was just an ass to my friends for some reason. This was back in 2013 before she quite hit superstardom. I think she was still doing that godawful fake country.
I appreciate that she writes her own songs; that is like, the only way I can have even a passing interest in that kind of music, otherwise it’s like, no, I’m not gonna listen to what your corporate committee thought might work. I mean I’m not gonna listen anyway, but I can at least respect that she’s an actual songwriter, which isn’t nothing for those kind of people. But yeah, like, bland as hell in terms of those same actual songs.
I mean I wouldn’t call myself a fan but her music does, mostly manage to keep up with the times? Not all for the better, the whole reputation era felt dated the second it came out, there’s the cringe NiceGirl song that was sooo 2000s, and I’m sure she’d like to forget she ever made “you’re so gay”. But Katy Perry is strictly a 2000s and 2010s artist. That was her era, the sexy, male gazey campiness with mindless but fun pop. Like her woman’s world MV would’ve done fine like 10, 15 years ago. But it’s just dated and she can’t keep up.
I really like taylor swift songs, but I hate the pop music sound, so I listen to a lot of covers. Us The Duo does a spectacular cover of Shake It Off, which is what got me started.
That’s me and most of pop! I go “blech” at whatever is constantly playing on the radio, but play me a moody acoustic cover of the same track and I’ll eat it up.
Unless you like literally don’t go out you probably *have* heard a Taylor Swift song and probably didn’t realize it. Over the past decade or so, her music has become sort of the default to the point where you’re likely to hear her on various retail playlists, etc.
Not entirely sure why Taylor Swift lyrics would need to be taught.
I say that as someone who’s actually a big fan of Taylor Swift. I just don’t get what Dorothy was going to offer.
Also, it’s interesting that Joyce and Joe are going to read through the lyrics while they listen. That’s something I’d do, but I’ve learned most people often aren’t that concerned with lyrics.
I guess. In my experience, that happens more when people are already into the song and know it decently, and also more likely with high energy songs, which this is not, but if that’s what’s happening here, sure.
*I just don’t get what Dorothy was going to offer.*
To sit down in a nice snuggly corner, and for her and Joyce to put their faces really close to each other, and sing a (probably?) love song together while being intimately close and inebriated.
Maybe she’d dress up like a sexy Maytag repair man. Who can say?
Uh, well, I don’t know if Dorothy and Joyce exaaaactly have a gay thing going, but… Put it this way, I almost feel like the most sexual part in the whole “teaching you to masturbate thing” was the TEACHING aspect.
You might say it’s almost a “kink” they have where Dorothy is really into taking on the teacher role for Joyce and Joyce is happy to be the student.
“but I’ve learned most people often aren’t that concerned with lyrics.” – Yumi
Really? I’ve often found the exact opposite. Usually from people who are aghast that I don’t know or care what the lyrics are to even my favorite songs, or when I mention I wish there were more purely instrumental pieces in my preferred genre.
Maybe it’s that most people are in the middle; I care about all the lyrics, you seem to care about none of them. Plenty of people seem to only care about part of the lyrics in some songs.
People are complex, but I think there are three general tendencies and lots of people lean mostly on one. Some people come for the words; some for the music; and some wanna dance and come for the beat and the tempo.
Me, I want a song to be a story set in emotional context, so I care about the words and the music. If the beat is intrusive, it’s probably a story I won’t care for.
It’s 6 in the morning here in Sweden. I have read 13 DoA PDFs in the last week, and I feel it’s important that you all know this comic updates at six o clock in the damn morning for me.
And anyway, I can relate to this as someone who basically only found out music could sound good when she was about 18. My musical awakening was the white supremacist power metal band Ultima Thule, I’m ashamed to say. But I mention this because I’m sure it’ll be funny to compare them to Taylor Swift.
It does suck! Like the Nazis ruined both the hooked cross and the entire color scheme of red, black and white. There’s a whole grown-up conversation to be had about how fascism by design insinuates itself into and perverts simple and cool and glamorous stuff, which I think Umberto Eco already has had.
DoA is part of my morning routine too. It’s been up for a quarter of a day by then and there are a nice assortment of comments by that time (once I’ve taken sufficient time to savor the strip itself).
which untagged people are singing? Probably Ethan. Ethan and Jacob, I expect that’s part of their goodnight routine, singing Taylor Swift together. Jacob’s a good roommate, keeping up a routine and a human connection with Ethan.
As someone who’s more familiar withy Taylor Swift’s music than most in this comment section, I’m going to suggest that Danny tries to do a Taylor Swift medley but starts up playing “Getaway Car” and then things get awkward again.
Can we take a moment to appreciate how thoroughly Lucy has ruined Dorothy’s life? She got Danny to sing a song that Joyce doesn’t know, but Joe interacted with Joyce more smoothly and now Dorothy has no recourse but to fuck Walky for 7 hours while eating a bucket of chicken.
Dangerous individuals, I know that much. Like, it’s either complete inability to make an informed choice because what if other thing, or the tyranny of whatever whim has occurred most recently. It doesn’t matter if I need to read this library book, we’re watching Dragon Ball Z Kai now.
If Joe’s move lead’s to Dorothy and Walky fucking again, is that like, reverse cock-blocking? (or is cock-blocking exclusive to the first time or something.)
Also is there a different word for what Joe did with respect to Joyce and Dorothy? It’s not clit-blocking (as entertaining as it would be), but like, a platonic version of that.
This is unrealistic. Kids today would definitely be singing “Not like us” instead. Am I saying that to cover for the fact I don’t know any Taylor Swift songs except the one with cheer captains and bleachers? ….Maybe.
Beatles, they would definitely sing The Beatles and The Grateful Dead. Kids today might actually get into that if someone made a popular TikTok, like that time Peter, Paul, and Mary were inexplicably popular for a minute. And sea shanties. I’m impressed no one in this comic has to be stoned to play music and sing.
…….now I’m just thinking of Danny doing a full ukulele rendition of they not like us and just having sal come in to do the n word. I can’t do an accurate rendition bc I’m pretty sure this site auto bans for that word but shrug
“Sometimes you gotta pop out and show…(Sal..!)”
“Freaky ass… (Sal?)… He a 69 god”
If Danny growled “it’s all eyes on me and I’mma send ‘em up to Pac” with even a fraction of Kendrick’s verve I think Sal might fuck him right there in the middle of the party
See, now you’ve caused me to imagine both this comic and yesterday’s with Danny playing WAP instead of Taylor Swift.
Picture it.
Lucy: “Play.”
*Danny plays WAP*
*Sal breaks off her argument to sing WAP*
Joyce says she isn’t familiar with WAP. Joyce offers to teach Joyce about WAP, but then Joe says he also isn’t familiar with WAP and offers to learn together.
And Walky is like “Yeah, i know about WAP.”
Joe’s boyfriending very solidly here. Applause. Here’s me hoping that Dorothy is looking to Walky and realizing that he doesn’t give her the same thing that Joyce gives her, but definitely something that’s special to himself… Fingers crossed she’ll get both hehe
Isn’t there something about being allowed to use eight words of a lyric without permission? Can we assume Willis has permission? Or does he know something I don’t know?
That. YT has done a lot that has helped make more people more aware of how US copyright works, but it’s also done a lot that obfuscates how it works because their site rules are more limiting in order to protect their platform.
In the current case, it’d be impossible to argue any substantive effect on the market for Tailor Swift’s song and the nature of the work would probably be a wash with the difference between presentation. Where purpose comes in, I’m uncertain how meaningful it would be since the use is more about the song’s place in pop culture and the characters’ interactions with that part of pop culture than it is about the song itself. With regards to amount and substantiality Willis has kept the lyrical excerpts to a part of two verses and part of the chorus, just enough to suggest the song without fully expressing the most important heart of the work. Yep, that was a paragraph of fair use analysis from someone totally unqualified to engage in such ;D
While you’re not per se wrong, Lars wasn’t actually the problem. He was just the mask that the actual problem, mainstream music production and publishing companies in the US, used to shield themselves from the inevitable public blowback when the Napster, Limewire, Kazaa, and eventually BitTorrent lawsuits started destroying lives. He even had some valid points at the time.
That being said, letting himself be used as a corporate stooge was when he earned being called a sellout (and not just of “every seat every night”).
I like shipping Joyce and Dorothy even though there’s plausible deniability that they actually have romantic interest in each other, but I think their obvious jealousy when they each have the romantic attention of a man is some of the biggest evidence in favor of it. Neither of them display anything near this level of jealousy for their other friends notably Becky when she hangs with Dina more than them. I know Dorothy is nowhere near as close to Becky, but Joyce has also shown very little in the way of jealousy like she did when Dorothy was first dating Walky. Dorothy was never jealous of Danny either for that matter, but they might not actually be that close anymore if they ever were. Seeing Dorothy now reciprocate that toward Joe at least earns a cheeky The Rock eyebrow raise from me.
I’m not sure how deniable Dorothy’s interest in Joyce is, after how she reacted to Jennifer taking Joyce to the clinic, Taco Bell lunch, exercise room third wheelin, the dream (and implied breaking into Joyce’s room to watch her sleep), and the time Dorothy talked Joyce into masturbating with her and expected to be able to watch Joyce cum.
If, how much, in what ways, and for how long, Joyce has been romantically interested in Dorothy is more ambiguous. But I think Dorothy has missed her chance, if she ever had one.
I don’t know the lyrics. On account of I’m an almost forty year old dude.
Who was never even interested in music in high school.
And who technically never spent a dime on music before.
And who spends literally no time paying attention to modern celebrities, pop icons, or other famous people.
And whose music, when I listen to it, is made up 100% of neat songs from soundtracks of movies, games, and shows.
… you know, maybe this is more of a ndiv thing than an “I’m an old millennial” thing.
I wonder if Amber knows the lyrics. Or could even recognize it as a Taylor Swift song. I mean, I’m sure that Dina doesn’t, but Amber? Maybe, maybe not.
Panel 1, music in the background: “Well I’m rather upper class, high society”
Joyce: I– I don’t know this song.
Dorothy: AC/DC, Joyce
Joyce: I wasn’t allowed to listen to secular music.
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Soon, Dorothy……soon.
Ha ha ha, get wrecked, Dorothy.
Joe, your Walky is showing. It’s okay, you mostly saved it.
Nah. Look at the facial expression. He’s negging himself about the Macho. Still, he’s working on it.
In the immortal words of the 80’s…
GO JOE!
Man, I can’t believe the nerve of these guys, butting in on Joyce and Dorothy’s date like that.
Man, I can’t believe the nerve of Dorothy, still trying to keep Joyce in a box instead of letting her blossom into an adult with a partner of her choosing.
JoycexDorothy bait was funny for like 12 years, now I just see Dorothy gleefully obfuscating consent and the comic not calling her out on it once.
you’re not wrong. timescale kind of screws up how long it should take people to notice and say something. Need Jennifer to show up and have enough time not dealing with her own drama, to fix/break this.
I’m not even sure what “gleefully obfuscating consent” is supposed to be about here.
Probably the washing machine thing. Like, yeah it was a bit weird but “gleefully obfuscating consent” is a reach.
Many close friendships reach a point where asking for forgiveness rather than permission really is the more practical thing. Not everyone wants that, and that’s okay, but speaking for myself it’s pretty great.
I could at least understand it there, but I thought Schpoonman was talking about this strip or at least this sequence.
Considering Walky’s previously displayed alcohol tolerance and present verticality, either he means three sips or that cup is 95% Sprite.
Is it really an “either,” or more of an “and”?
I guess Joe really swooped in.. Swiftly!
Nice. Ready to undo some toxic masculinity conditioning, good job Joe.
Wow, that pun was taylor-made for this comic.
+1
But where’s the Tupac ai?
Definitely one for the Eras.
Im so proud of Joe, thats some great boyfriending he is doing there.
I guess, but he ruined the moment.
a good boyfriend would not cockblock his girlfriend
But might clitblock the girl making a move on his girlfriend, especially if he does so by making the exact same move on said girlfriend only doing it better.
Exactly. Joe’s not clitblocking his girlfriend, how do you think she’s going to feel about her mountain of a boyfriend learning T-Swizzle lyrics with her?
I thought it was called clamjamming.
(Then again, I had no idea she was called T-Swizzle. I’d say I was becoming Abe Simpson, but I never “used to be with it”.)
I think T-Swizzle miiight be something I independently started using. Probably to annoy her fans when they wouldn’t leave me alone for having my own taste in music.
I’ve heard that one a lot, ’round these parts.
Yeah, clamjam. Cockblock rhymes. Clamjam rhymes. But clamblock and clitblock don’t. Rhyme is lubed flow in language; very important to have. i can’t think of anything readily apparent for clit…maybe clitquit?
I have also heard it called “Beaver Dam” which does not rhyme but has a poetry to it
This is slang we’re talking about. It’s called whatever became popular on TikTok 5 minutes ago.
Clamjam.
Beaver dam
C’mon and slam, subject that clam to jam
More like, he stomped on Dorothy TRYING to ruin the moment.
(I really hate JoycexDorothy, so I’m always unreasonably happy when someone puts another hole below the waterline of that already sinking ship.)
One day, Walky will be able to admit this while sober.
Today is not that day.
I had no idea it was Taylor swift. I don’t think I’ve ever actually heard her music. I heard a Pendulum cover of one of her songs, and that’s probably the closest
She’s possibly my least favorite artist ever musically. I can’t believe she’s still around and Katy Perry has faded into the 10’s. If there’s some celeb gossip related reason for this, I wouldn’t know it because I don’t follow celebrities.
I knew people who met and worked alongside Taylor Swift. She apparently treats people as badly as her music treats my ears.
I’m not sure, but I think that counts as celebrity gossip.
Amazing level of insider knowledge. I on the other hand, only know what I read about any singers on Vox News and NPR. All I can think about is that’s me espresso and for some reason The Last Time I Saw Richard.
I’ve heard that Taylor Swift exists.
I’m sure I’ve heard one of her songs accidentally, but damned if I could name even one track. Songs with lyrics largely get ignored by me.
Shake it off. There’s a Disney Princess fanmade version (and a kids one) on YouTube that my girls both loved when they were around 2-5-ish.
Katy Perry’s Roar was also in the “kids music video rotation” but the middle one has now discovered Sing and Sing 2, and introduced our youngest to those (which include CGI pigs dancing to Shake it Off), so those ones (plus “Time to be Awesome” from the MLP movie, and some other upbeat, empowering ones from the movie Ballerina are more likely to play…
Should also locate the Katy Perry video with the little girl beating up a whole room full of karate jerks and reintroduce it to them…
Roar is objectively awesome.
RAWR
https://schafferthedarklord.bandcamp.com/track/rawr
My lack of knowledge of Taylor Swift was ruined by MLP:FiM music videos.
Taylor’s got a lot of detractors, and with good reason, but honestly? She writes her stuff and Katy doesn’t, and that is a contributing factor to how she enjoys much more credibility with a lot of music fans, though Katy did herself no favors with some really bad career choices at times.
taylor’s dad is richer and her music is more bland and therefore has a wider potential audience (supermarket customers)
i have never liked either singer but at least the world doesn’t try to trick me into hearing katy perry songs 80 times a day and no one yells at me or acts oppressed if i say i don’t like her ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
also statistically speaking someone here should like a genre other than bland pop music
Would Baroque or easy listening count?
Aqua already exists and all pop music since then is but a pale imitation.
Katy Perry is also no bueno
That’s like the exact OPPOSITE of what I’ve heard about TS and the people around her. I’ve only ever heard good things about how she treats people, and that she shares her wealth with employees and every city she performs in. Whoever claimed to work for her and told you that seems be affected by a major case of jealousy.
Taylor Swift and her finance bro dad have actually made a new economy the size of some states. On balance probably good.
I honestly wouldn’t believe any rumors, good or bad about Taylor Swift or any celebrity that enjoys her insane level of fame. There’s financial motivation for or against her and a cult like passion with both. I would say as a jaded adult that individuals that enjoy her incredible level of privilege and wealth likely don’t do enough considering the major gaps in quality of life and income in our society.
Not to mention that she is a successful woman with (some) progressive views. That alone accounts for heaps of hatred.
Idk, maybe she got nicer over time or was just an ass to my friends for some reason. This was back in 2013 before she quite hit superstardom. I think she was still doing that godawful fake country.
I appreciate that she writes her own songs; that is like, the only way I can have even a passing interest in that kind of music, otherwise it’s like, no, I’m not gonna listen to what your corporate committee thought might work. I mean I’m not gonna listen anyway, but I can at least respect that she’s an actual songwriter, which isn’t nothing for those kind of people. But yeah, like, bland as hell in terms of those same actual songs.
I mean I wouldn’t call myself a fan but her music does, mostly manage to keep up with the times? Not all for the better, the whole reputation era felt dated the second it came out, there’s the cringe NiceGirl song that was sooo 2000s, and I’m sure she’d like to forget she ever made “you’re so gay”. But Katy Perry is strictly a 2000s and 2010s artist. That was her era, the sexy, male gazey campiness with mindless but fun pop. Like her woman’s world MV would’ve done fine like 10, 15 years ago. But it’s just dated and she can’t keep up.
I also didn’t know it was Taylor Swift, until I googled the lyrics after yesterday’s comic.
I really like taylor swift songs, but I hate the pop music sound, so I listen to a lot of covers. Us The Duo does a spectacular cover of Shake It Off, which is what got me started.
Better: here’s a parody of Shake It Off.
That’s me and most of pop! I go “blech” at whatever is constantly playing on the radio, but play me a moody acoustic cover of the same track and I’ll eat it up.
…of COURSE I was Blowjob Cat for that comment.
Unless you like literally don’t go out you probably *have* heard a Taylor Swift song and probably didn’t realize it. Over the past decade or so, her music has become sort of the default to the point where you’re likely to hear her on various retail playlists, etc.
Not entirely sure why Taylor Swift lyrics would need to be taught.
I say that as someone who’s actually a big fan of Taylor Swift. I just don’t get what Dorothy was going to offer.
Also, it’s interesting that Joyce and Joe are going to read through the lyrics while they listen. That’s something I’d do, but I’ve learned most people often aren’t that concerned with lyrics.
I guess if you’re all singing the verses together?
I guess. In my experience, that happens more when people are already into the song and know it decently, and also more likely with high energy songs, which this is not, but if that’s what’s happening here, sure.
Eh, you can sing basically anything with a chorus in a group and have it be fun. It’s not Barrett’s Privateers or anything but it’ll do.
Me, turning to a classmate when I was in high school and Katy Perry’s “Firework” was playing: “Do you ever feel like a plastic bag?”
Them: “…What?”
Me: “D-do you ever feel like… a plastic bag… it’s… the first line of the song…”
Them: “What song? This song? Huh.”
lol this is me as well, not listening to any lyrics and ignoring any background music, while my husband identifies every song.
That is a very weird line.
I was trying to joke about it by saying it dead serious, and then I just felt so awkward!
Not everyone likes pop/top 40. I’m way way out of the appropriate age group, but even when I was in it, I didn’t listen to top 40.
Okay. That actually has nothing to do with my comment.
The comment was about “why would you need to (specifically) ‘teach’ lyrics?” and not “how can you not know the lyrics?”
Teach is a weird word choice there is all.
It’s a weird word choice, but it also make sense for Dorothy. Her habit is to go to mentor mode.
*I just don’t get what Dorothy was going to offer.*
To sit down in a nice snuggly corner, and for her and Joyce to put their faces really close to each other, and sing a (probably?) love song together while being intimately close and inebriated.
Maybe she’d dress up like a sexy Maytag repair man. Who can say?
Oh, yeah, that works.
“Joyce, I can teach you this, just like I taught you to masturbate.”
Uh, well, I don’t know if Dorothy and Joyce exaaaactly have a gay thing going, but… Put it this way, I almost feel like the most sexual part in the whole “teaching you to masturbate thing” was the TEACHING aspect.
You might say it’s almost a “kink” they have where Dorothy is really into taking on the teacher role for Joyce and Joyce is happy to be the student.
Dotty has a “I can fix them” fetish a mile wide. She’s played “teacher” to danny, walky and joyce.
“but I’ve learned most people often aren’t that concerned with lyrics.” – Yumi
Really? I’ve often found the exact opposite. Usually from people who are aghast that I don’t know or care what the lyrics are to even my favorite songs, or when I mention I wish there were more purely instrumental pieces in my preferred genre.
Maybe it’s that most people are in the middle; I care about all the lyrics, you seem to care about none of them. Plenty of people seem to only care about part of the lyrics in some songs.
People are complex, but I think there are three general tendencies and lots of people lean mostly on one. Some people come for the words; some for the music; and some wanna dance and come for the beat and the tempo.
Me, I want a song to be a story set in emotional context, so I care about the words and the music. If the beat is intrusive, it’s probably a story I won’t care for.
It’s good, I never listened one simple song of her.
Not that I don’t like her, but, from all pop singers, she never pop up in my player.
I respect this comic’s commitment to having musical moments in a completely non-auditory medium.
sometimes I play the music they’re listening too, but ukulele versions of everything are kind of hard to find.
Here ya go!
https://youtu.be/CtYG1BzC7MA
It’s 6 in the morning here in Sweden. I have read 13 DoA PDFs in the last week, and I feel it’s important that you all know this comic updates at six o clock in the damn morning for me.
Honestly, with the server clock drift, it was getting pretty close to that for us in the Eastern US too.
And anyway, I can relate to this as someone who basically only found out music could sound good when she was about 18. My musical awakening was the white supremacist power metal band Ultima Thule, I’m ashamed to say. But I mention this because I’m sure it’ll be funny to compare them to Taylor Swift.
It sucks that white supremacists have ruined a bunch of great names for things like bands or websites by association.
It does suck! Like the Nazis ruined both the hooked cross and the entire color scheme of red, black and white. There’s a whole grown-up conversation to be had about how fascism by design insinuates itself into and perverts simple and cool and glamorous stuff, which I think Umberto Eco already has had.
It’s part of my morning routine. Greetings from Poland!
Same here lol
Dumbing of Age is the first thing I check when I wake up in the morning.
DoA is part of my morning routine too. It’s been up for a quarter of a day by then and there are a nice assortment of comments by that time (once I’ve taken sufficient time to savor the strip itself).
Her smile at Walky in the last panel <3
I think Malaya should find out that Sal knows a taylor swift song. I think that would be a funny interaction.
which untagged people are singing? Probably Ethan. Ethan and Jacob, I expect that’s part of their goodnight routine, singing Taylor Swift together. Jacob’s a good roommate, keeping up a routine and a human connection with Ethan.
Yes, I demand to know which untagged people are singing. My head-canon is Bucket’s O’ Blood Guy and Shaggy. Just because we never see them.
Bets on whether or not Booster is singing?
Booster is singing like a third of the lyrics and mumbling/humming through the rest. But they’re hitting the parts they do sing really hard!
As someone who’s more familiar withy Taylor Swift’s music than most in this comment section, I’m going to suggest that Danny tries to do a Taylor Swift medley but starts up playing “Getaway Car” and then things get awkward again.
Can we take a moment to appreciate how thoroughly Lucy has ruined Dorothy’s life? She got Danny to sing a song that Joyce doesn’t know, but Joe interacted with Joyce more smoothly and now Dorothy has no recourse but to fuck Walky for 7 hours while eating a bucket of chicken.
I don’t know whether to riff on the specificity of the bit or the thought of a KFC bucket in bed.
You ever get choice paralysis?
bold to assume it’s a kfc bucket, and not like a 5 gallon / 19 L bucket of plain steamed chicken.
Or a 50 piece box of nuggets
Mmm… korean fried chicken.
You ever just make a choice without paralysis?
yea, but when i realize what i did, i always make sure to get in some panic about it after the fact!
What? No. Who does that?
Dangerous individuals, I know that much. Like, it’s either complete inability to make an informed choice because what if other thing, or the tyranny of whatever whim has occurred most recently. It doesn’t matter if I need to read this library book, we’re watching Dragon Ball Z Kai now.
No. Too mentally ill for that
You say that like it’s a bad thing. Though it’s really probably best to do the chicken and the fucking separately.
If Joe’s move lead’s to Dorothy and Walky fucking again, is that like, reverse cock-blocking? (or is cock-blocking exclusive to the first time or something.)
Also is there a different word for what Joe did with respect to Joyce and Dorothy? It’s not clit-blocking (as entertaining as it would be), but like, a platonic version of that.
i guess he’s just a general source of intimacy interference
I need to remember this phrase.
Clamjam?
What will Lucy take from Dorothy next?! THE PRESIDENCY?!
This is unrealistic. Kids today would definitely be singing “Not like us” instead. Am I saying that to cover for the fact I don’t know any Taylor Swift songs except the one with cheer captains and bleachers? ….Maybe.
Beatles, they would definitely sing The Beatles and The Grateful Dead. Kids today might actually get into that if someone made a popular TikTok, like that time Peter, Paul, and Mary were inexplicably popular for a minute. And sea shanties. I’m impressed no one in this comic has to be stoned to play music and sing.
Peter Paul and Mary have appeared in the strip!
Danny strumming a ukelele while singing “sometimes you gotta pop out and show ninjas!” would be a good compliment to when he sang WAP.
How about “bring me the head of the preacher man” by Siouxie and the Banshees?
Don’t be absurd. It’d be “Ballroom Blitz” or “I Ran,” not … whatever “Not Like Us” is.
You are in the right hood, friend
…….now I’m just thinking of Danny doing a full ukulele rendition of they not like us and just having sal come in to do the n word. I can’t do an accurate rendition bc I’m pretty sure this site auto bans for that word but shrug
“Sometimes you gotta pop out and show…(Sal..!)”
“Freaky ass… (Sal?)… He a 69 god”
If Danny growled “it’s all eyes on me and I’mma send ‘em up to Pac” with even a fraction of Kendrick’s verve I think Sal might fuck him right there in the middle of the party
Dorothy and Walky, Joe and Joyce. I’m eating good today.
Joe tries with genuine willingness, Dorothy still shows that need to keep up with Joyce.
However, Walky finds an effective way to get Dorothy out of it, that smile in the last panel is great proof of it.
…Danny did get entirely too many lines into WAP. He could do it.
This was supposed to go under Sirk’s comment about “Not Like Us”.
See, now you’ve caused me to imagine both this comic and yesterday’s with Danny playing WAP instead of Taylor Swift.
Picture it.
Lucy: “Play.”
*Danny plays WAP*
*Sal breaks off her argument to sing WAP*
Joyce says she isn’t familiar with WAP. Joyce offers to teach Joyce about WAP, but then Joe says he also isn’t familiar with WAP and offers to learn together.
And Walky is like “Yeah, i know about WAP.”
I seriously want an alt comic of this.
joe is the best omg
i actually melted
Joe’s boyfriending very solidly here. Applause. Here’s me hoping that Dorothy is looking to Walky and realizing that he doesn’t give her the same thing that Joyce gives her, but definitely something that’s special to himself… Fingers crossed she’ll get both hehe
Walky’s fragile masculinity continues to save the day.
Since we haven’t had a link to a cover yet…
I love Joe and Joyce being adorable in this.
The weirderst storyline ever… constanly waiting for a mic or shoe to drop.
I LOVE this!!!
Mike drop.
Isn’t there something about being allowed to use eight words of a lyric without permission? Can we assume Willis has permission? Or does he know something I don’t know?
What are you, a cop?
I’m a writer. I want to know what I can get away with.
This isn’t YouTube.
That. YT has done a lot that has helped make more people more aware of how US copyright works, but it’s also done a lot that obfuscates how it works because their site rules are more limiting in order to protect their platform.
In the current case, it’d be impossible to argue any substantive effect on the market for Tailor Swift’s song and the nature of the work would probably be a wash with the difference between presentation. Where purpose comes in, I’m uncertain how meaningful it would be since the use is more about the song’s place in pop culture and the characters’ interactions with that part of pop culture than it is about the song itself. With regards to amount and substantiality Willis has kept the lyrical excerpts to a part of two verses and part of the chorus, just enough to suggest the song without fully expressing the most important heart of the work. Yep, that was a paragraph of fair use analysis from someone totally unqualified to engage in such ;D
I think we as a society need to trick Lars Ulrich into looking at the portrait of himself that he keeps hidden in his attic.
While you’re not per se wrong, Lars wasn’t actually the problem. He was just the mask that the actual problem, mainstream music production and publishing companies in the US, used to shield themselves from the inevitable public blowback when the Napster, Limewire, Kazaa, and eventually BitTorrent lawsuits started destroying lives. He even had some valid points at the time.
That being said, letting himself be used as a corporate stooge was when he earned being called a sellout (and not just of “every seat every night”).
Alright, but tricking a guy into looking at a painting is easier than fully reforming a societal ill, and we’ve gotta start somewhere.
I concur.
I am authorizing. They may proceed. Trust me, I’m brazilian.
Walky to the rescue
Theres something cute about him pulling out the lyrics and saying “Lets learn it together”??
God these two are so fuckin
adorable
Damn that was smooth.
Oh my god i love joe/Joyce so much i hope they go the distance and don’t break up for the sake of drama ;_; they’re so sweeeeeet together
This is adorable!
I also don’t know the lyrics, because my music taste is mostly electro
I know two Taylor Swift songs. Love story and The Man. I genuinely find The Man to be funny.
lalala, Joe is better friend than Dorothy, lalalal…
Ooh, we’re tagging now just on voice alone! I like it!
Damn, that one isolating panel.
Dorothy wants to teach Joyce ALL the things. wink wink. ~<3
I like shipping Joyce and Dorothy even though there’s plausible deniability that they actually have romantic interest in each other, but I think their obvious jealousy when they each have the romantic attention of a man is some of the biggest evidence in favor of it. Neither of them display anything near this level of jealousy for their other friends notably Becky when she hangs with Dina more than them. I know Dorothy is nowhere near as close to Becky, but Joyce has also shown very little in the way of jealousy like she did when Dorothy was first dating Walky. Dorothy was never jealous of Danny either for that matter, but they might not actually be that close anymore if they ever were. Seeing Dorothy now reciprocate that toward Joe at least earns a cheeky The Rock eyebrow raise from me.
I loved this plot. wow
I’m not sure how deniable Dorothy’s interest in Joyce is, after how she reacted to Jennifer taking Joyce to the clinic, Taco Bell lunch, exercise room third wheelin, the dream (and implied breaking into Joyce’s room to watch her sleep), and the time Dorothy talked Joyce into masturbating with her and expected to be able to watch Joyce cum.
If, how much, in what ways, and for how long, Joyce has been romantically interested in Dorothy is more ambiguous. But I think Dorothy has missed her chance, if she ever had one.
Which is why Dorothy’s going to be dating Mindy sooner or later, she’ll be her replacement Joyce.
Wait, so this party had no music??
The party started with no party, just a bottle. Gradually a party is coalescing around it.
I don’t know the lyrics. On account of I’m an almost forty year old dude.
Who was never even interested in music in high school.
And who technically never spent a dime on music before.
And who spends literally no time paying attention to modern celebrities, pop icons, or other famous people.
And whose music, when I listen to it, is made up 100% of neat songs from soundtracks of movies, games, and shows.
… you know, maybe this is more of a ndiv thing than an “I’m an old millennial” thing.
I wonder if Amber knows the lyrics. Or could even recognize it as a Taylor Swift song. I mean, I’m sure that Dina doesn’t, but Amber? Maybe, maybe not.
To be fair, Swift herself is a millenial
Couple goals.
God damn, but Joe is killing it at boyfriending there.
Incorrect. Joe has not committed even one murder up to this point.
When was the last time Joe’s RA has been seen, not dead in the trash chute?
Joe has not committed even one murder that we know about up to this point.
Huh. I had no idea it was supposed to be a real song.
Panel 1, music in the background: “Well I’m rather upper class, high society”
Joyce: I– I don’t know this song.
Dorothy: AC/DC, Joyce
Joyce: I wasn’t allowed to listen to secular music.