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May 12, 2026

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by David M Willis on October 19, 2024 at 12:01 am
  • 01 – Love Dares You To Change
└ Tags: dorothy, joyce, roz

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  1. shadowcell
    shadowcell
    October 19, 2024 at 12:03 am | #

    “okay so if i may slightly rephrase”

    • Anna
      Anna
      October 19, 2024 at 4:07 am | #

      😂😂😂

    • Adept
      Adept
      October 19, 2024 at 4:28 am | #

      Exactly. For the literal minded.

    • fridge_logic
      fridge_logic
      October 19, 2024 at 5:33 am | #

      No, no she’s got a point: Dorothy is responsible for the most important sexual discovery of Joyce’s life so far (masturbation is cool), why shouldn’t she be the go to for every other sexual discovery Joyce ever wants to have?

      • Michael Steamweed
        Michael Steamweed
        October 19, 2024 at 10:06 am | #

        “Fridge_logic” is a perfect term for Joyce’s thinking right now. 🙂

  2. Nathan
    Nathan
    October 19, 2024 at 12:03 am | #

    do we want to know whats in that box

    • Doxkid
      Doxkid
      October 19, 2024 at 12:03 am | #

      A sock.

      • jeffepp
        jeffepp
        October 19, 2024 at 12:07 am | #

        For the doorknob.

        • DJTsurugi
          DJTsurugi
          October 19, 2024 at 4:56 am | #

          for Jacob ~<3

    • Council
      Council
      October 19, 2024 at 12:04 am | #

      That Could be a box. My first impression was a huge stack of Dotty-aimed paperwork.

      • Jo_cubstar
        Jo_cubstar
        October 19, 2024 at 12:06 am | #

        I also assumed it was paperwork. All her sex research

      • Thag Simmons
        Thag Simmons
        October 19, 2024 at 12:07 am | #

        My first assumption was laptop. I think that’s probably wrong, it looks a little heavy, but it’s possible.

      • Shade
        Shade
        October 19, 2024 at 12:09 am | #

        I thought it was paperwork too.

      • HueSatLight
        HueSatLight
        October 19, 2024 at 9:57 am | #

        There’s a preview panel dated for tomorrow on tumblr. It is a stack of paper. A ream perhaps.

        • Andy
          Andy
          October 19, 2024 at 1:21 pm | #

          A ream of in terms of sex?

    • Sirksome
      Sirksome
      October 19, 2024 at 12:05 am | #

      Cupcakes? I bet it’s cupcakes!

      • Mark
        Mark
        October 19, 2024 at 8:38 am | #

        I was gonna say doughnuts.

    • Doctor_Who
      Doctor_Who
      October 19, 2024 at 12:05 am | #

      A size six.

    • Thag Simmons
      Thag Simmons
      October 19, 2024 at 12:05 am | #

      If I had to guess from the shape, donuts.

    • Proxiehunter
      Proxiehunter
      October 19, 2024 at 12:23 am | #

      The bunny. It was put back in.

      • Michael Steamweed
        Michael Steamweed
        October 19, 2024 at 10:07 am | #

        I understood that reference!

    • Dara
      Dara
      October 19, 2024 at 12:58 am | #

      From my studies of Midwesternism Culture, I suspect it should be some form of casserole.

      • Mark
        Mark
        October 19, 2024 at 8:40 am | #

        In a box?

        I mean: yeah, casserole is not unlikely, but not in a box. The paper gets all smokey in the oven.

    • butting
      butting
      October 19, 2024 at 1:42 am | #

      Laundry.

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      October 19, 2024 at 3:01 am | #

      They finally caught the cricket.

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      October 19, 2024 at 4:16 am | #

      My brain keeps flip-flopping between “stack of papers” and “white foam take-out container”.

    • Shadowsnail
      Shadowsnail
      October 19, 2024 at 11:44 am | #

      She’s bringing Dorothy her box so Dorothy can tell her what to do with it.

    • Chiatroll
      Chiatroll
      October 19, 2024 at 11:57 am | #

      It’s not a box. It’s a giant sammich

    • John in CA
      John in CA
      October 19, 2024 at 12:06 pm | #

      I assumed it was a pie, but I might just be hungry.

    • Furie
      Furie
      October 19, 2024 at 5:55 pm | #

      Cannolis and donuts. You know… to demonstrate with.

    • Leadsynth
      Leadsynth
      October 21, 2024 at 2:37 am | #

      I thought it was a huge sandwich

  3. Council
    Council
    October 19, 2024 at 12:03 am | #

    I love Roz’s energy. She is putting all of herself into this spiel.

    But this was also very, very predictable.

  4. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    October 19, 2024 at 12:03 am | #

    Dorothy controls Joyce’s sexuality. Soon she will have power over everyones!

    • Jamie
      Jamie
      October 19, 2024 at 12:10 am | #

      The Kinsey Whisperer.

      • Rolf of Many Doors
        Rolf of Many Doors
        October 19, 2024 at 8:10 am | #

        Ooooo, I wouldn’t recommend citing Kinsey, bud – dude was waaaaay fucked up.

        • Laura
          Laura
          October 19, 2024 at 9:03 am | #

          How so?

          • Laura
            Laura
            October 19, 2024 at 9:25 am | #

            Oh, OK, I found the critique: he interviewed sex offenders and abusers without reporting their conduct to law enforcement. Yeah. Problematic.

            Was that what you were referring to?

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      October 19, 2024 at 2:53 am | #

      She’s also got Walky’s sexuality.

      • eh, whatever
        eh, whatever
        October 19, 2024 at 4:08 am | #

        Avatar checks out!

  5. True Survivor
    True Survivor
    October 19, 2024 at 12:03 am | #

    Mario ads are consuming my dumbing of age webpage. Soon nothing of Joyce or the gang will remain only him – a Mario. I’m scared.

    • NGPZ
      NGPZ
      October 19, 2024 at 12:10 am | #

      Hmmmmm… DoA Mario…

    • RassilonTDavros
      RassilonTDavros
      October 19, 2024 at 12:16 am | #

      The Age of Dumbing is over.

      The Age of Plumbing has come.

      • butting
        butting
        October 19, 2024 at 1:44 am | #

        Your Dorothy is in another castle!

        • Effie
          Effie
          October 19, 2024 at 12:02 pm | #

          Sorry Sarah, your Jacob is in another castle!

          And your Other Jacob is in an other another castle.

          • Opus the Poet
            Opus the Poet
            October 19, 2024 at 6:16 pm | #

            +1

    • Marianne
      Marianne
      October 19, 2024 at 2:34 am | #

      I’ll express-a my sympathy in-a Mario-ese: “WaAaAaAaAaAaAh! Ohhh no!”

  6. Thag Simmons
    Thag Simmons
    October 19, 2024 at 12:04 am | #

    I’m sure this is going to go very badly, but there’s so many different ways it could go badly it’s hard to call.

  7. Animedingo
    Animedingo
    October 19, 2024 at 12:05 am | #

    oH

  8. jeffepp
    jeffepp
    October 19, 2024 at 12:05 am | #

    Some more alone time with HER Dorothy.

  9. Jo_cubstar
    Jo_cubstar
    October 19, 2024 at 12:05 am | #

    Oh Joyce, you’re precious

  10. HueSatLight
    HueSatLight
    October 19, 2024 at 12:07 am | #

    Tease. (Joyce teasing Dorothy and Willis teasing the shippers)

    • Coatl
      Coatl
      October 19, 2024 at 12:18 am | #

      It’s already scary to think what Joyce will do, if she already scared Dorothy before in the bar… oh god, the intrigue

      • DJTsurugi
        DJTsurugi
        October 19, 2024 at 4:57 am | #

        my vision of a Dorothy, Joyce and Joe sexy times is coming closer. ~<3

    • Amós Batista
      Amós Batista
      October 19, 2024 at 5:17 pm | #

      “0 days without Willis teasing us with Joyce/Dorothy ship
      Our record: X. (Being X the amount of days that Dorothy was trying to fix Walky).”.

  11. Viktoria
    Viktoria
    October 19, 2024 at 12:08 am | #

    It’s worth pointing out that Joyce was in a cult for 18 years and got free just six months ago. While Roz is entirely correct, Joyce is used to “listen to those smarter than you” as the correct approach to every problem and may be unlearning that for the rest of her life. “Do what is best for you personally” is far more advanced than where she is right now.

    • True Survivor
      True Survivor
      October 19, 2024 at 12:11 am | #

      That is a good insight.

    • drs
      drs
      October 19, 2024 at 1:18 am | #

      Yeah, good point.

    • Mark
      Mark
      October 19, 2024 at 8:44 am | #

      TBF cults capitalize on and distort the perfectly reasonable tendency for social animals to seek out leadership in moments of uncertainty.

      • StClair
        StClair
        October 19, 2024 at 1:59 pm | #

        Human cognition has a very large number of well-documented exploits and vulnerabilities, and most of them go unpatched in the wild.

  12. vlademir1
    vlademir1
    October 19, 2024 at 12:09 am | #

    Quick, I need a copy of Wannabe to get playing before someone else takes control of this comic’s audio server…

    Anyone?

    • vlademir1
      vlademir1
      October 19, 2024 at 12:12 am | #

      Also, it’s really annoying when the banner ad at the bottom of the page decides to cover the post comment button and a video ad in the bottom right corner covers the close button on that banner ad and doesn’t have it’s own close button.

      • Bash
        Bash
        October 19, 2024 at 2:22 am | #

        Tip from a web developer – if you right click and “inspect element” you can delete stuff from the page.

        • Kintrex
          Kintrex
          October 19, 2024 at 12:20 pm | #

          If you can right click and inspect element you can use an adblocker. Doesn’t help anyone on mobile.

        • vlademir1
          vlademir1
          October 20, 2024 at 11:03 pm | #

          Yes, but that does nothing to make it less annoying. The issue is baked into the UX of the platform this comic is hosted on.

    • Shadowsnail
      Shadowsnail
      October 19, 2024 at 11:52 am | #

      Joyce Makes a Zigazig Ah: A Dumbing of Age Pornographique

  13. mindbleach
    mindbleach
    October 19, 2024 at 12:10 am | #

    There’s a gauge labeled Joyce No and Joyce Yes, and the needle is wavering halfway between them.

    • Freezer
      Freezer
      October 19, 2024 at 1:00 am | #

      That’s marked “I get it, but come on!”

    • Reltzik
      Reltzik
      October 19, 2024 at 2:55 am | #

      The needle is swinging back and forth so quickly that it has achieved quantum superposition and is pointing to both simultaneously.

      YES THAT IS TOO HOW THAT WORKS!

    • Needfuldoer
      Needfuldoer
      October 19, 2024 at 4:19 am | #

      Turns out it’s actually a metronome.

      • Shadowsnail
        Shadowsnail
        October 19, 2024 at 11:55 am | #

        Joe can keep rhythm with no metronome
        No metronome
        No metronome

        • Effie
          Effie
          October 19, 2024 at 12:03 pm | #

          metro gnome?

        • Opus the Poet
          Opus the Poet
          October 19, 2024 at 6:20 pm | #

          I recognize that reference. Handlebars.

  14. BBCC
    BBCC
    October 19, 2024 at 12:11 am | #

    THAT IS NOT WHO ROZ MEANT, but probably true XD

  15. Jeremiah
    Jeremiah
    October 19, 2024 at 12:12 am | #

    Yup is 100% what Roz meant. Good job Joyce no notes.

  16. Chaucer59
    Chaucer59
    October 19, 2024 at 12:12 am | #

    In my best Don Adams voice: “Missed it by THAT much.”🤏🏽

    • StClair
      StClair
      October 19, 2024 at 12:45 am | #

      Would you believe…?

      • Mark
        Mark
        October 19, 2024 at 8:46 am | #

        Sorry about that, Roz!

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      October 19, 2024 at 10:20 am | #

      Whoa. This is some old school referencing. Intelligent stuff. Quite Smart, if you will. (And I understood that reference.)

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        October 19, 2024 at 6:22 pm | #

        Tennessee Tuxedo must not fail.

      • Chaucer59
        Chaucer59
        October 20, 2024 at 12:33 am | #

        What can I say? I’m that old.

  17. Blume
    Blume
    October 19, 2024 at 12:19 am | #

    That would’ve been good advice if Joyce trusted her own judgement -u-

    • Mark
      Mark
      October 19, 2024 at 8:49 am | #

      She did. She judged that Dorothy is more experienced than she and less likely to brush her off with nonspecific advice like Roz.

      Not that Roz’ advice is wrong; it simply doesn’t address Joyce’s question. (Which she never actually got to ask.)

      • Blume
        Blume
        October 19, 2024 at 9:29 am | #

        Yeah, Roz did that to Joe last time too.

  18. AntithesisConundrum
    AntithesisConundrum
    October 19, 2024 at 12:19 am | #

    this strip made me CACKLE

    • Colin McKenzie
      Colin McKenzie
      October 19, 2024 at 9:40 am | #

      Me too. It’s good to have an old-fashioned, uncontroversial gag once in a while.

    • Johann
      Johann
      October 19, 2024 at 11:37 am | #

      Honestly this is a contender for DoA’s funniest last panel gag. Perfect combination of completely unexpected in advance but completely expected in hindsight and of utterly absurd yet believable.

  19. Sirksome
    Sirksome
    October 19, 2024 at 12:23 am | #

    From what we know of Joyce her ideal sexuality is being gently crushed under a massive ass of ambiguous gender, while staring at a boner, possibly with her face pressed into large boobs, and holding Dorothy’s hand or watching her as she engages in some sexual act. Also throw stubble in there somewhere. Yes. I’ve solved it. No idea what that means though.

    • PirateTawnee
      PirateTawnee
      October 19, 2024 at 5:13 am | #

      Could also throw in her response to Sal’s hair the first time Joyce saw her take her crash helmet off.

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      October 19, 2024 at 10:22 am | #

      So her sexuality is Jennifer Walters and Bruce Banner?

    • Miri
      Miri
      October 19, 2024 at 11:00 am | #

      Under the repression she’s bi? But Becky’s family and she can’t see her like that?

  20. TrueVCU
    TrueVCU
    October 19, 2024 at 12:23 am | #

    Ok this might actually be what breaks Dorothy

    • TrueVCU
      TrueVCU
      October 19, 2024 at 12:23 am | #

      Perfect gravatar yessssss

    • TerribleTransit
      TerribleTransit
      October 19, 2024 at 8:27 pm | #

      This shoe has been in the air a long time now, and I could NOT have predicted this would be how it dropped.

  21. Pocky
    Pocky
    October 19, 2024 at 12:28 am | #

    ok; but like, is this gonna be another washing machine arc?

    • Jeremiah
      Jeremiah
      October 19, 2024 at 2:08 am | #

      I’m sure that would be completely uncontroversial and not cause any kind of angry arguments.

    • Wack'd
      Wack'd
      October 19, 2024 at 12:47 pm | #

      not another joyce’s washing machine arc

  22. Dante
    Dante
    October 19, 2024 at 12:31 am | #

    Joyve has been ramping up the queerness lately and I’m VERY pleased. Why, even the last panel has Bisexual Lightning.

    I know I’m not getting it, but my little heart here is like HELL YEAH SHE HAS TWO HANDS LET’S GET ALL THREE OF THEM TOGETHER. Apologies.

    • Tesset
      Tesset
      October 19, 2024 at 1:19 am | #

      She keeps talkin’ about polycules. What is that if not foreshadowing!

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        Polycules are just particles that parrots are made of.

    • mindbleach
      mindbleach
      October 19, 2024 at 11:01 am | #

      Half the comics I follow tease central polycules and not a single friggin’ one has actually done it. Not even as a romantic disaster arc for comedic purposes.

      • Opus the Poet
        Opus the Poet
        October 19, 2024 at 6:30 pm | #

        One I’m following is actually starting one because one female character has discovered she’s bi, and enamoured of both the male and female leads. It looks like it’s heading for a trainwreck, but at least it’s an interesting trainwreck.

        • mindbleach
          mindbleach
          October 20, 2024 at 2:05 pm | #

          And you’re keeping which one a secret?

  23. Zamperla
    Zamperla
    October 19, 2024 at 12:36 am | #

    Roz, two minutes later: Should I have outright SAID ‘direct communication with the person you want to do sex with’? No… No. I don’t wanna talk down to the gal.

  24. IntangibleMatter
    IntangibleMatter
    October 19, 2024 at 12:43 am | #

    There are two interpretations:

    1. Joyce didn’t understand what Roz meant

    2. Joyce understood exactly what Roz meant, and realized she’s a lesbian sub with a thing for girls who wear glasses.

  25. Freezer
    Freezer
    October 19, 2024 at 12:56 am | #

    naked_gun_mass_face_palm.gif

  26. Suet
    Suet
    October 19, 2024 at 1:00 am | #

    “What should I do” sounds incomplete, even if panel 6 is something.

    If we’re rekindling the Joyce-Dorothy ship, I want to rename the ship as Breen… coz the day the ship sails will end up in a BANGGG

    • Shadowsnail
      Shadowsnail
      October 19, 2024 at 12:02 pm | #

      The only canonical Breen ship ended tragically. Time to even the score.

  27. Tesset
    Tesset
    October 19, 2024 at 1:18 am | #

    Yesterday’s comments were so smug about the Joyce/Dorothy shippers being overreaching lol. Well well well, look how little time it took for us to get back here…

  28. Taffy
    Taffy
    October 19, 2024 at 1:22 am | #

    “Dorothy, good news! I’ve realised I need to practice sex before I try it with Joe! Do you have a spare strap-on we can use?”

    • Michael Steamweed
      Michael Steamweed
      October 19, 2024 at 10:28 am | #

      Scenario I: “Dorothy, I need to watch you and Walky (ugh) have sex while I take notes.”
      Scenario II: “Dorothy, I need to watch you and Joe have sex while I take notes.”
      Scenario III: “For proper comparison, I need to watch you have sex with Walky and then Joe, while I take notes and update the spreadsheet that you probably already have.”

  29. DashWallkick
    DashWallkick
    October 19, 2024 at 1:40 am | #

    Dorothy did SAY she was the only person who’s ever made Joyce cum!

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      October 19, 2024 at 3:03 am | #

      No she did not.

      • Doopyboop
        Doopyboop
        October 19, 2024 at 4:34 am | #

        https://www.dumbingofage.com/2023/comic/book-13/02-turning-saints-into-the-sea/murderous/

        Because I am stupid I decided to go looking in the strips and I think Dash is referring to this! It’s not exactly what Dorothy said but it is close. The idea of her bragging to herself (if sardonically) about making Joyce cum is hilarious.

        • Michael Steamweed
          Michael Steamweed
          October 19, 2024 at 10:31 am | #

          She is the Abraham Lincoln of emancipating Joyce’s sexuality.

  30. Cimorene
    Cimorene
    October 19, 2024 at 1:45 am | #

    Panel 3-4 “Wow I’ve been in a funk since transitioning this is great to hear. Thanks Roz.”
    Panel 5-6 “Oh no. Joyce no. Oh no.”

  31. Juanoku
    Juanoku
    October 19, 2024 at 1:58 am | #

    I KNEW IT

  32. Qube
    Qube
    October 19, 2024 at 1:58 am | #

    laundry day already huh

  33. DailyBrad
    DailyBrad
    October 19, 2024 at 2:01 am | #

    Roz is being very pleasant about all of this. Sort of wonder if she just, takes Joyce a touch more seriously now or what, but sure, I’ll take it.

    • Jeremiah
      Jeremiah
      October 19, 2024 at 2:11 am | #

      This is the topic that matters the most to her so it makes she takes it seriously.

    • Coatl
      Coatl
      October 19, 2024 at 2:11 am | #

      They both didn’t get off to a good start and it seems like Roz notices sincerity in Joyce these days, maybe that’s why she’s so kind.

      • Bogeywoman
        Bogeywoman
        October 19, 2024 at 2:25 am | #

        Sincerity and noticing (respecting???) that Joyce is actively open to learning and changing when she recognises her ways of thinking aren’t healthy.

      • Ray Radlein
        Ray Radlein
        October 19, 2024 at 7:31 am | #

        tbf, Joyce has always been sincere

        • Mark
          Mark
          October 19, 2024 at 9:03 am | #

          One of the things I like about her.

  34. Joyfulldreams
    Joyfulldreams
    October 19, 2024 at 2:21 am | #

    I legit facepalmed. But, like, in an affectionate way.

  35. Reltzik
    Reltzik
    October 19, 2024 at 2:51 am | #

    ….

    I’m remembering a story. I’m not sure where I remember it from. I’m not sure if it’s fact or fiction. But it doesn’t really matter if the story’s true, it just matters because it feels applicable to today’s comic.

    This story is about land pirates. Basically, pirates that stayed on land while they did their piracy. They’d use lanterns at night to appear to be lighthouses and guide ships onto the rocks, and then swarm on board, kill the crew, and take the valuables. Pirates, but they didn’t actually need to go to sea. It feels applicable here.

    … yeah. Land pirates. That’s definitely what’s happening in Panel 6.

    We’re getting ship-baited.

    • Uly
      Uly
      October 19, 2024 at 4:12 am | #

      Are you trying to describe wreckers?

    • Mark
      Mark
      October 19, 2024 at 9:09 am | #

      Nice pun.

      IIRC yes, there have been at least coast-dwellers in places where shipwrecks are common, who supplemented their livelihood by scavenging wrecked ships in their neighborhood.

      I’m not saying that some did not realize that they could make even more profit if there were more wrecks, and that they could do something about that, but I’m not saying they did.

  36. ADLegend21
    ADLegend21
    October 19, 2024 at 3:41 am | #

    Literally wheezing. Perfect set up and pay off.

  37. Wandering Mage
    Wandering Mage
    October 19, 2024 at 4:02 am | #

    Not beating the sapphic allegations today, I see.

  38. GUIGUI
    GUIGUI
    October 19, 2024 at 4:08 am | #

    …

  39. GUIGUI
    GUIGUI
    October 19, 2024 at 4:10 am | #

    Only you…

  40. Florence
    Florence
    October 19, 2024 at 4:30 am | #

    First up: lmao on this tease
    Secondly: I am trying to figure out Dorothy’s face in the final panel and as much as I want the chaos from the DorothyxJoyce kiss nothing previously indicates we’re there yet. She just seems so caught in the moment of Joyce’s beauty

    • Mark
      Mark
      October 19, 2024 at 9:14 am | #

      I’m reading it as: it’s been maybe 300 milliseconds since Dorothy recognized the shape approaching her, Joyce seems particularly happy to see her, and Dorothy is just beginning to think “what’s this about?”

  41. zims
    zims
    October 19, 2024 at 4:31 am | #

    Okay but speaking from experience, this is not the best advice to give a repressed autistic girl trying to figure out what all the sex stuff even IS. Urban Dictionary was a better resource than Roz. At least that explains penetration.

    • Zaxares
      Zaxares
      October 19, 2024 at 5:12 am | #

      Yeah. XD To be fair to Roz, her overarching point is VERY on point; do not look to others to try and figure out what YOU like in sex. That is something only you can discover through trial and experimentation. But Roz forgets that Joyce is SO clueless about intimacy that she needs at least SOME advice on where to start. (Like, if I hadn’t seen the strips with it, I’d probably have assumed that Joyce needs directions on KISSING.) So, sitting her down and listening to her questions and answering as fully and honestly as you can is probably the best approach for Joyce. And amusingly, Dorothy is probably the best person suited for that. 😉

      • spriteless aunty
        spriteless aunty
        October 19, 2024 at 8:22 am | #

        Indeed. I do hope this is comedic timing, and Joyce is coming to Dorothy for the detail oriented advice, not just for dommy mommy god replacement.

    • Formerly Glenn
      Formerly Glenn
      October 19, 2024 at 5:40 am | #

      I feel like Rix likes feeling like she’s morally (sexually) better than people, rather than actually helping them.

      • Blume
        Blume
        October 19, 2024 at 9:35 am | #

        Same. She’s passionate about what she cares about… What she cares about isn’t exactly individuals though. Hmm, I guess it’s seeing the forest before the trees? I’m not implying she’s a bad person, by the way.

  42. Joy
    Joy
    October 19, 2024 at 4:42 am | #

    I do like Roz sometimes

    • ValdVin
      ValdVin
      October 19, 2024 at 6:07 am | #

      Yep. She’s the SME (subject matter expert) with the right attitude someone like Joyce needs. Joyce isn’t the only student on campus who could use this advising.

  43. WindyDream
    WindyDream
    October 19, 2024 at 4:59 am | #

    Oh man, poor Dorothy

  44. miz
    miz
    October 19, 2024 at 5:04 am | #

    [EXTREMELY LOUD INCORRECT BUZZER]

    • Mark
      Mark
      October 19, 2024 at 9:16 am | #

      Which is the correct buzzer?

      • Michael Steamweed
        Michael Steamweed
        October 19, 2024 at 10:33 am | #

        The one that goes in the Hitachi wand.

  45. CJ
    CJ
    October 19, 2024 at 5:57 am | #

    Poor Dotty.
    (Sometimes Roz makes sense, she’s just a misunderstood person.)

  46. ValdVin
    ValdVin
    October 19, 2024 at 6:04 am | #

    Hey gang, it’s time to explore mutual carnal congress with Dorothy Margot Keener!

  47. Tomixcomics
    Tomixcomics
    October 19, 2024 at 6:16 am | #

    DoA comics are funny and charmign bnut it’s been a while since one made me laugh quite as loudly as this one did.

  48. darkoneko
    darkoneko
    October 19, 2024 at 6:20 am | #

    … oh come the fuck on, Joyce

  49. Daibhid C
    Daibhid C
    October 19, 2024 at 7:07 am | #

    Dammit, Roz actuallly gives some decent advice that isn’t based on projection and prude-shaming, and what happens?

    • Daibhid C
      Daibhid C
      October 19, 2024 at 7:08 am | #

      (No I didn’t put three “l”s in “actuallly” by mistake, that’s just how much I’m emphasising it.)

      (Yes, I realise normally you’d push the “ac”, not the “ly” but I’m being quirky.)

      • Mark
        Mark
        October 19, 2024 at 9:18 am | #

        Lengthening the timing is a different style of emphasis.

  50. Matrix
    Matrix
    October 19, 2024 at 8:54 am | #

    Nonononono

  51. Colin McKenzie
    Colin McKenzie
    October 19, 2024 at 9:31 am | #

    Please let Dorothy tell Joyce to piss off and make her own decisions.

    • mindbleach
      mindbleach
      October 19, 2024 at 12:16 pm | #

      (Don’t say you should go fuck him. Don’t say you should go fuck him. Don’t say you should go fuck him.)

  52. Mark
    Mark
    October 19, 2024 at 9:36 am | #

    It’s like ice cream. If I’ve never heard of ice cream, and someone takes me into the shop and there’s 39 flavors and oodles of toppings and almost endless ways to combine them all and the clerk asks me what I want…how should I know? I’d probably ask my partner: “what do you like?” I may like it well; I may like it a little; I may not like it at all. But I found a way to decide using someone else’s experience, since I have none of my own. And next time I’ll have a basis for choosing.

    But Joyce isn’t even there yet. She wants something to happen, which is outside her experience, but it’s not happening spontaneously and she doesn’t know how to take the lead and move forward. Know well enough to put the odds in favor of success rather than of making things worse. I’ve been there. It’s agonizing.

  53. Pergola
    Pergola
    October 19, 2024 at 9:41 am | #

    “… a whole universe of things you can try”
    Many of which are icky and crivalent.

    • Taffy
      Taffy
      October 19, 2024 at 11:02 am | #

      I looked up “crivalent” but only got results for somebody’s Instagram and isolated uses in reference to arsenic and something math-related. Assuming it isn’t a typo, could you explain this word?

      • Pergola
        Pergola
        October 19, 2024 at 12:08 pm | #

        Entirely made up. Like if the inventor of ‘cromulent’ had ‘cringe’ in mind.

  54. Michael Steamweed
    Michael Steamweed
    October 19, 2024 at 10:02 am | #

    Rational part of me: Joyce, that is NOT the correct conclusion!
    Shipper part of me: Joyce, that IS the correct conclusion!

  55. Clell65619
    Clell65619
    October 19, 2024 at 11:01 am | #

    Okay, wow.

    It’s odd that out of her ‘friend’ group of 18-20-year-olds, Roz, quite possibly the most self-involved and rebellious, is the only one with helpful advice.

    If only Joyce was self-aware enough to understand it.

  56. Meagan
    Meagan
    October 19, 2024 at 11:02 am | #

    Jumping off what others are saying about Roz’ limited helpfulness here, it would be a lot more helpful to offer Joyce a yes/no/maybe checklist like are showcased here
    https://sexualhealthalliance.com/nymphomedia-blog/yes-no-maybe-checklists

  57. Stephen Nedland
    Stephen Nedland
    October 19, 2024 at 12:46 pm | #

    I hope this is the beginning of the Joyce/Joe/Dorothy throupling that I’ve been hoping for, for a few months now.

  58. Yeet
    Yeet
    October 19, 2024 at 12:59 pm | #

    roz if you want to be the sex expert person you’re gonna need to understand that some people don’t have even the basic mechanical underpinnings here
    good advice in a broad sense but I think joyce might need to literally know how things work
    I feel like colleges should probably offer free anonymous info for this stuff though given how… varied… people’s backgrounds can be

    • Jdorr
      Jdorr
      October 19, 2024 at 1:16 pm | #

      Just decent sex education in general would be helpful. Unfortunately some people get weird about the idea of people actually understanding the subject

      • Sirksome
        Sirksome
        October 19, 2024 at 5:09 pm | #

        It’s weird to me that society and especially western or conservative society view basic sexual knowledge as taboo. Maybe we need to reframe is to reproductive education? Because it’s just a basic biological function like shitting or breathing. Yet we fight against it being taught in school or children knowing, or freely providing protection and education. Joyce having no real knowledge about it was not just a failing of her parents to educate her but our society as well. Yo me it’s like arguing against teaching people how to use a toilet and just letting them figure it out themselves.

        • Jdorr
          Jdorr
          October 20, 2024 at 2:59 pm | #

          Totally agree exept I suspect a name change wouldn’t solve the problem as it’s not the name they have an issue with

  59. TulipKitten
    TulipKitten
    October 19, 2024 at 1:06 pm | #

    Are they actually gonna bang or is Willis just trolling the readers at this point?

  60. Jdorr
    Jdorr
    October 19, 2024 at 1:14 pm | #

    😄 not what she meant Joyce

    • Mark
      Mark
      October 19, 2024 at 5:17 pm | #

      Or maybe Joyce decided, “well, that didn’t help. Who else do I know, who understands these matters?”

      • Jdorr
        Jdorr
        October 20, 2024 at 2:57 pm | #

        Fair

  61. elfroyalty
    elfroyalty
    October 19, 2024 at 4:33 pm | #

    this is like someone walking up to you and asking for some basic cooking tips and you going ‘oh man you can do ANYTHING with food, it’s all a matter of taste, just because i like to flambe my steaks doesn’t mean you will!’

    it’s true! but perhaps not helpful in this context.

    really hope someone just directs joyce to leslie at some point for some advice. ik she’s a gender studies teacher and not specifically sex ed but like. there’s no way she doesn’t get this type of question 100 times a semester.

    • Mark
      Mark
      October 19, 2024 at 5:21 pm | #

      Indeed. Joyce is at the “how do I turn the oven on?” stage.

      • elfroyalty
        elfroyalty
        October 19, 2024 at 7:50 pm | #

        yeah, or “how long do i cook the chicken so i don’t die?”

  62. thumb
    thumb
    October 19, 2024 at 5:17 pm | #

    To be fair, experience has proven her right.

  63. James Custer
    James Custer
    October 19, 2024 at 6:10 pm | #

    I love this comic so much.

  64. Barf Ninjason
    Barf Ninjason
    October 23, 2024 at 12:57 am | #

    Ok, *that* was funny

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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
y'know there's not an awful lot of rocketeering in The Rocketeer
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