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by David M Willis on March 9, 2011 at 12:01 am
  • 04 - The Bechdel Test
└ Tags: agatha, jennifer, mary, roz, ruth

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  1. Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
    Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
    March 9, 2011 at 12:03 am | #

    Wow, Roz is ready for some action??? Just walk away Billie, just walk away. Seems that Ruth would start something, but Billie might just end up calling her bluff.

    • Jen Aside
      Jen Aside
      March 9, 2011 at 12:07 am | #

      The anger hit might’ve been an accident, but fearing the fight is an even worse mistake at this point. Might as well call her bluff and, if not a bluff, take the abuse to mount herself a case!

      [Years ago, I had a co-worker threaten me if I moved his stuff out of somewhere it didn’t belong again, now I kinda wish I’d called his bluff on it…]

      • Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
        Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
        March 9, 2011 at 12:10 am | #

        Good point. Either way, a win win. Though it still doesn’t help Billie’s feelings for the whole outfit thing.

      • tom
        tom
        March 9, 2011 at 4:18 pm | #

        Sometimes, one punch is enough. The point has been made. If the other person wants to fight… be prepared to bring it. Otherwise, walk away with dignity.

    • Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
      Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
      March 9, 2011 at 12:09 am | #

      And from an angle, it seems Ruth fixed her glasses, weird. Though Billie snapped them straight in the middle so the two sides are still able to fit on the ears just fine.

      • taekwondogirl
        taekwondogirl
        March 9, 2011 at 12:13 am | #

        They weren’t snapped, it just got bent in the middle. Ruth fixed it in the last comic.

        • Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
          Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
          March 9, 2011 at 12:26 am | #

          I was going to disagree, but after a careful re-read of the last strip you’re right. Never realized that though. Those are some real strong glasses.

          • Rezby
            Rezby
            March 9, 2011 at 12:35 am | #

            Makes you wonder just how many times Ruth has had to fix them after getting whacked in the face, and just how deep her violence runs.

          • Skye
            Skye
            March 9, 2011 at 12:44 am | #

            It’s almost as if she planned for Billie to hit her, like she knew Billie would do this.

          • Cholma
            Cholma
            March 9, 2011 at 1:19 am | #

            She’s wearing flex-frame glasses; basically pliable, acrylic-wrapped wire attached to the lenses.

          • Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
            Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
            March 9, 2011 at 9:53 am | #

            Yeah, but even those can break if nailed hard enough. And that was a hard punch.

  2. Alix
    Alix
    March 9, 2011 at 12:03 am | #

    I feel so bad for Billie.

  3. Crash Platypus
    Crash Platypus
    March 9, 2011 at 12:03 am | #

    “Fair fight” is kind of a misnomer, don’tchathink?
    Anywho, I’m thinking that it’s not over, yet.

    Any bets on who that is yelling from the Peanut Gallery? Or does that matter?

    • Leiary
      Leiary
      March 9, 2011 at 12:05 am | #

      It’s Mike.

      • Crimson Magic
        Crimson Magic
        March 9, 2011 at 2:24 am | #

        Nah, he’s in class.

    • dchorror
      dchorror
      March 9, 2011 at 12:23 am | #

      I read it and I said Go Dinah!

    • Vanessa
      Vanessa
      March 9, 2011 at 12:28 am | #

      OMG I LOVE YOUR PLATYPUS!!!!!

    • Matt
      Matt
      March 9, 2011 at 4:00 am | #

      I’d say “fair fight” is apt. I mean, in Fight Night Round 1, Ruth gave Billie the first shot, and only after she was ready, so it was pretty fair. Might’ve been a little cruel to throw the judo flip on her, but still, once the fight is on, anything goes.

      This time Billie just threw a sucker-punch.

      • Zanosuke_Kurosaki
        Zanosuke_Kurosaki
        March 10, 2011 at 1:15 am | #

        This time Billie just threw a well-deserved sucker-punch.

        Fixed it for you. =D

    • Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
      Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
      March 9, 2011 at 10:01 am | #

      That platypus reminds me of Appa (AVATAR: Last Airbender)

  4. kagato23
    kagato23
    March 9, 2011 at 12:04 am | #

    Dammit! If there’s no fight, Amazi-girl left her raid for nothing!

    Why Willis, why! She’s missing her raid. She’s missing her raiddd!

    • Madock345
      Madock345
      March 9, 2011 at 12:46 am | #

      I thought the point was that she Diddn’t leave the raid, and she was dissapointed that she had to miss the fight.

  5. Kurai_Seraphim
    Kurai_Seraphim
    March 9, 2011 at 12:04 am | #

    Roz is totally safe. You can’t punch someone with a condom hat. The laws of physics won’t allow it.

    • David Herbert
      David Herbert
      March 9, 2011 at 12:08 am | #

      She can use the condom hat as a minor shield.

      • Chrisby
        Chrisby
        March 9, 2011 at 12:08 am | #

        Multi-purpose condom hat!

        • Joebo
          Joebo
          March 9, 2011 at 1:00 am | #

          +10 to Stamina

    • I'm not telling my name to a webform!
      I'm not telling my name to a webform!
      March 9, 2011 at 12:18 am | #

      So you’re saying the condom hat is like… protection?

      • Skye
        Skye
        March 9, 2011 at 12:42 am | #

        And now you have won an internet today, sir or ma’am. 😀

      • zuche
        zuche
        March 9, 2011 at 11:59 am | #

        Great. I’d managed to keep my thoughts free of the fake Sheikh ad, demonstrating the sensitivity of the brand with a car door. Thanks a lot. The only way I’m going to get that out of my head is by replaying the Trust ad.

  6. Ragnal
    Ragnal
    March 9, 2011 at 12:05 am | #

    Shut your FAAAAAAACE back there!

  7. Mkvenner
    Mkvenner
    March 9, 2011 at 12:06 am | #

    i still have a perverse sexual lust for Ruth in that shirt.

    And i guess a “dam you willis?”

    • Joebo
      Joebo
      March 9, 2011 at 1:01 am | #

      Dam? As in Hoover?

      • XMD
        XMD
        March 9, 2011 at 8:04 pm | #

        “Willis, I command you to construct a wooden structure within the confines of your main plumbing tube so as to dampen your creativity”

        • Mkvenner
          Mkvenner
          July 29, 2011 at 8:32 pm | #

          Then blow it up.

  8. David Herbert
    David Herbert
    March 9, 2011 at 12:07 am | #

    I wonder how many of these people actually like Ruth and would corroborate her story?

    • Viktoria
      Viktoria
      March 9, 2011 at 12:12 am | #

      Like…Ruth? I’m not sure I understand. Remember how she treats people? I doubt anyone likes her.

      • Chrisby
        Chrisby
        March 9, 2011 at 12:13 am | #

        Like? No.

        Fear? Very yes.

      • Skye
        Skye
        March 9, 2011 at 12:14 am | #

        Well, like her more than Billie.

        • Shift
          Shift
          March 9, 2011 at 3:04 pm | #

          I’d assume they like Billie more than Ruth. After all, Billie hasn’t been going around threatening people, stealing their stuff allegedly and trying to provoke fights the way Ruth has.

          • Skye
            Skye
            March 9, 2011 at 5:31 pm | #

            Ruth has only done one of those things to everyone. Some of them thought it was awesome when she provoked that fight with Ruth, though, and really they know that by staying on Ruth’s good side she won’t bother them.

            “Stay out of my way and I stay out of yours.”

            So why would they then get in her way with regards to Billie? Sure, she’d get removed as RA, but I can guarantee you Ruth will remember each and every person who tries to stand against her and WILL do something back to them, because that’s the twisted person she is. Ruth is the kind of person you don’t want to piss off.

    • n0z3k1ll3r
      n0z3k1ll3r
      March 9, 2011 at 12:14 am | #

      They don’t have to like Ruth. They just have to like Ruth more than Billie.

      • Loki
        Loki
        March 9, 2011 at 9:19 am | #

        Not true! If you’re afraid of getting in trouble for lying, you might tell the truth anyway. This happens in high school all the time, and a lot of these characters are barely past high school emotionally.

    • Mkvenner
      Mkvenner
      March 9, 2011 at 12:17 am | #

      I would.

  9. Doctor_Who
    Doctor_Who
    March 9, 2011 at 12:09 am | #

    So, does Roz just like wearing that hat? I could totally see that look catching on.

    • Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
      Digidestined of Trust (Tim)
      March 9, 2011 at 12:12 am | #

      The Roz hat is the most disturbing thing in this strip! When I saw her in the 3rd panel I went, wow, Roz is fast.

      • Tori
        Tori
        March 9, 2011 at 1:38 am | #

        By disturbing I assume you mean best?

    • XMD
      XMD
      March 9, 2011 at 8:04 pm | #

      I would buy one of those.

  10. Brasca1
    Brasca1
    March 9, 2011 at 12:11 am | #

    It’d be cool if that was Sal, but she’d be at class right now.

  11. Skye
    Skye
    March 9, 2011 at 12:17 am | #

    Things I’ve noticed about this page:

    1. The polaroid has fallen to the ground.

    2. Self defense WILL apply if Billie attacks again and Ruth simply counters and stops. Ruth is clearly giving Billie the chance to NOT do this and any intent to continue will show hostility on Billie’s part. Sure, it might not save her job as an RA but it will keep her out of jail for this particular instance (It won’t do much in regards to the uniform or the clotheslining Billie, though)

    • dchorror
      dchorror
      March 9, 2011 at 1:03 am | #

      I’ve been dying to say it all week, so I’ll address it first. Your avatar makes me smile and I’m just not sure why.

      1. I really want Billie to grab the polaroid, but on it’s own, it proves nothing.

      2. I thought self defense didn’t apply unless the defender broke off the fight at the earliest opportunity? Granted, it’d be smart for Billie to walk away, and Ruth is giving her a perfect opportunity.

      • Skye
        Skye
        March 9, 2011 at 1:40 am | #

        Haha, thanks. If you want, I can give you a link to what it’s from.

        1. On its own, no, But it could be combined to give Billie the edge she needs. I’m hoping it’ll turn out someone will see the Polaroid and go “this is Photoshop’d”

        2. Not for Billie, for Ruth. Yes, Ruth DID clothesline her, but it wasn’t out of a hostile need but rather enforcing the rules through extreme means. Yes, Ruth probably got a kick out of doing that to Billie, but that aside… There was a pause between this and Billie’s punch. That punch became an offensive punch. At this point if Billie attacks again and Ruth counters, providing Ruth just stops her and then leaves it, then that particular hit Ruth makes is in self defense. She’s “asking” Billie to step down from this and NOT continue, showing she doesn’t want to fight and thus if Billie makes an act then Ruth’s counter becomes self defense. At least I’m fairly certain it will.

        But then again, why bother discussing things like law when we know Willis isn’t going to work it in. 😀

        • dchorror
          dchorror
          March 9, 2011 at 7:51 am | #

          Ah, I meant for self defense for Ruth and that link would be most appreciated.

          • Skye
            Skye
            March 9, 2011 at 2:42 pm | #

            You’re kind of right. Getting away does matter. Thing here, though, is that on Ruth’s part this isn’t a fight yet. She’s trying to intimidate Billie and she’s not going to make herself seem weaker since she’s the RA, but right now Ruth is on the defensive because Billie hit her first (And for others, no, the clothesling doesn’t count as a fight initiator in this, given that Ruth used it to stop Billie from breaking a rule and there has been a sufficient period of time since she did that. The ground was made neutral up until Billie hit her) and Ruth is giving her the chance to stop. So in terms of grounding, Ruth was initially on the offense with the clothesline, but her reasoning for it and the time passed has made everything neutral. Billie punches, making Billie on the offense. Ruth has yet to counter and has given Billie the chance to walk away. Billie choosing to continue makes her on the offense and puts Ruth on the defense, who is not looking to continue this fight but she can’t back down because it’d make her look weak and inferior to Billie.

            And since they both have superiority complexes, neither of them wants to back down.

          • Skye
            Skye
            March 9, 2011 at 2:43 pm | #

            And here’s that link:

            http://fav.me/d326yb5

        • Shift
          Shift
          March 9, 2011 at 3:17 pm | #

          Actually, Ruth can’t claim self-defense exactly. The fact she as the RA used physical force on a student, puts her in the cross-hairs along with Billie. R.A.’s are REQUIRED to use none physical means to deal with students. The clotheslining of Billie breaks those rules and if any other students saw that and side with Billie, than Ruth is the one who gets in trouble.

          The fact Billie struck Ruth, can be argued as a provoked attack, as Ruth physically knocked down Billie and then proceeded to bully her verbally, provoking the attack.

          Ruth meanwhile is continuing the provocation in front of a crowd of people. She can claim it was self-defense, but the fact that she is choosing to stand there and fight, rather than write-up Billie or report her to campus security will work against her. As the R.A., she’s supposed to set a better example, which Ruth is failing to do spectacularly.

          • Skye
            Skye
            March 9, 2011 at 5:33 pm | #

            Not in regards to her job as an RA, but in regards to the law in general. As an RA, yes, total failure. If Billie tried to charge her with assault, not so much. It’d only be the clothesline thing, and she has some minor workarounds on that. They wouldn’t be enough to drop that charge but it would be lessened a bit.

  12. NF
    NF
    March 9, 2011 at 12:25 am | #

    Restraint is the better part of valor. And now that she has got everyone’s attention, airing her grievances against Ruth may actually get her some support, and worry Ruth enough that they will go to the administration that she returns the uniform.

    • NF
      NF
      March 9, 2011 at 12:26 am | #

      Of course, this strip is called Dumbing of Age for a reason, and odds are good that regardless of what happens next, someone will do something very dumb.

      • Joebo
        Joebo
        March 9, 2011 at 1:03 am | #

        Curses, you’ve seen through his machinations. You must be dealt with.

        • XMD
          XMD
          March 9, 2011 at 8:07 pm | #

          in the FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACE.

          • NF
            NF
            March 9, 2011 at 11:36 pm | #

            Not the face! Anywhere but the FAAACE!!!

  13. dchorror
    dchorror
    March 9, 2011 at 12:26 am | #

    That’s a lot more control than I expected from Ruth.

    • MeHael
      MeHael
      March 9, 2011 at 12:32 am | #

      Agreed. I expected this strip to involve an exchange of blows, not an exchange of words.

  14. Maark30
    Maark30
    March 9, 2011 at 12:32 am | #

    Lets see, Ruth illegally entered a students room, Illegally took personal property (ie THEFT) of a student, and then insulted and threatened said student in front of other students. I’m sorry but this seems to me to be a major violation of a students personal and legal rights and from Ruth it looks like a case of mental illness (She does not care about anyone else or see that they have rights and that she has overstepped her bounds (Some call that being a bit of a sociopath by the way)). The school, if it was in a real world, would be looking at a major lawsuit and reaming by the media for letting Ruth get away with this behavior.

    • Madock345
      Madock345
      March 9, 2011 at 12:47 am | #

      I thought an R.A had full access to any Dorm room?

      • turkishproverb
        turkishproverb
        March 9, 2011 at 12:52 am | #

        Only for official reasons.

        • 1Samildanach
          1Samildanach
          March 9, 2011 at 1:41 am | #

          And I’m pretty sure nicking stuff does not count as an official reason.

      • Kitana Coldfire
        Kitana Coldfire
        March 9, 2011 at 11:46 am | #

        They do. I’m good friends with my RA and I’ve already been told by housing that I’d qualify for the position if I had the time for it. Regardless, I can add some input on this. Yes, RA’s do have access to all of the dorms in a hall, as does the maintenance department, via a master key. With the exception of maintenance, there are only about 2 other master keys for a dorm; one kept in the housing office, and one kept in the dorm’s office to be used for emergencies or during room inspections.

        That being said, room inspections are really the only reason an RA should ever be in a resident’s room when they aren’t there. And the room inspections at my college make privacy top-priority. Unless they have probable cause (and even that is iffy), they aren’t allowed to open a resident’s drawers, open a closed closet, or even lift a bedspread up to look under a bed. They are only allowed to check to make sure the surge protectors aren’t overloaded, make sure our garbage is being taken out, and make sure the bathroom/room is acceptably clean.

        We keep our room so clean my RA usually does our room first just to get it out of the way, since the inspection is done so quickly. Hope that helps some.

    • Shift
      Shift
      March 9, 2011 at 3:20 pm | #

      Yeah, in the real world, Ruth would have already been fired and arrested for breaking both the rules of the school, as well as the law in general.

  15. Maark30
    Maark30
    March 9, 2011 at 12:34 am | #

    Oops I forgot to add the willful destruction of the stolen property and displaying it in a way to induce the maximum mental anguish to the victim. Man that is a lot of time in a psych-ward or jail in my state.

  16. Joebo
    Joebo
    March 9, 2011 at 12:57 am | #

    Who let one of the fans into the crowd?

  17. Alechsa
    Alechsa
    March 9, 2011 at 1:07 am | #

    I’m betting the voice was Joe. Five cookies.

    I read a Dear Abby once. A guy was pissed as hell because his friend ‘ratted him out’…. The ‘friend’ had left the door to his dorm unlocked and to ‘teach him a lesson’ the guy had ‘hidden’ his friend’s laptop in HIS dorm room and informed his friend of this…. without having returned said computer… Police were called, the guy was kicked out of school, and is facing jailtime. He blames his friend for ‘ruining his life’… Abby told the friend ‘get over him, he’s a dumbass’. Okay she said it in Abby terms but STILL!

    Ruth is in DEEP shit if Billie says ‘fuck this, I’m going over your head’.

  18. Pinnelipe
    Pinnelipe
    March 9, 2011 at 1:15 am | #

    Alright! Question! Since when have the Willisverses ever followed the rules of the normal one? Even if you take out all manner of super powers, they’ve never ran in a way that could work in the real world. So, I’m going to enjoy Ruth for what she is, an exaggeration of power hungry authority figures that would work awesomely in a sitcom, but would be locked away in a psych ward if they truly demonstrated the things they can in their respective imaginary worlds. Personally, I always love seeing her because I know then we get some mental anguish and twitching. Poor Billie, but I love to watch her suffer… just a little. I can actually see the lot of this turning into an odd understanding and friendship. Maybe a tag-team against Sal.

    • Skye
      Skye
      March 9, 2011 at 1:42 am | #

      Thank you! Finally, someone says it!

    • Madock345
      Madock345
      March 9, 2011 at 1:54 am | #

      maybe instead of tag team against sal they can tag team sal

    • dchorror
      dchorror
      March 9, 2011 at 8:01 am | #

      I’m not bugged that it’s so unrealistic but rather the fact that it’s being focused on Billie. Someone brought this up a few days ago in regards to Mike’s antics, but really, the biggest difference is that Mike is an ass to everyone. Ruth seems to only be doing it to Billie.

    • nothri
      nothri
      March 9, 2011 at 10:22 am | #

      Nah….when we first saw Ruth she was an adorable psychotic, forcing everyone to come to meetings and using crazy kung fu on the loud mouthed freshmen. For me she crossed a line somewhere. Now she just feels like a big bully. And those, my friend, are the least likable characters anywhere…Mike being the exception that proves the rule.

      • zuche
        zuche
        March 9, 2011 at 12:12 pm | #

        Mike has never been a bully. He’s more like a genie adept at twisting the words and wishes of other people.

        And, “The exception proves the rule,” still doesn’t mean anything when used like that. A rule demonstrated to be without exception is still a rule. A rule shown to have an exception may be on the edge of refutation.

    • Shift
      Shift
      March 9, 2011 at 3:24 pm | #

      This isn’t the Walkyverse anymore though is it? It’s an alternate universe where it seems Walky is going for a more real-world approach. No super-powers, no aliens and no drama-tags.

      But either way, just because things are exaggerated, doesn’t mean we can’t ask how she’s getting away with this? I mean, she’s an R.A. not Stalin. It’s not like there aren’t teachers and admin that the kids can’t complain to.

      • Skye
        Skye
        March 9, 2011 at 6:05 pm | #

        No, but this is Willis we’re talking about. I’m also pretty sure he said “the drama tag has been pre-pulled” for this, though I’d imagine trying to find that quote would take MONTHS of searching. Or maybe a couple hours, but I’m too lazy for that.

  19. Flintyoungblood
    Flintyoungblood
    March 9, 2011 at 1:25 am | #

    I was kinda hoping to see Billie hulk out and kick Ruth’s ass. The humiliation for the sake of a demonstration was one thing, Billie rose to the challenge and got shut down. Defacing a keepsake in order to enforce paperwork on the other hand… Especially when it involves catching Sal (who I think would require several beartraps to catch and hold her long enough)… thats beyond ruthless, that’s cruel. I can respect ruthlessness, but cruelty for its own sake is just pointless. When that uniform gets returned it better not be missing a stitch.

  20. Jaredtsf
    Jaredtsf
    March 9, 2011 at 1:53 am | #

    heh, I’d watch this fight, even if all they did was stand there.

  21. Ariel
    Ariel
    March 9, 2011 at 1:59 am | #

    Got to disagree with Pinnelipe here: I’ve seen plenty of people act EXACTLY as Ruth does in this strip, and again, ridiculously, they GET AWAY WITH IT with no consequences, and more often than not, are REWARDED for their behavior and are very rarely caught. Unfortunately in our world, the bad guys win pretty much all the time.

    So yeah: I’d love to see Ruth get run over by a truck. She’s an evil person with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

    • Jaredtsf
      Jaredtsf
      March 9, 2011 at 2:11 am | #

      YOU ! I don’t know what! I LUV RUTH! Reminds me of my sister a little.

    • goatman95111
      goatman95111
      March 9, 2011 at 2:40 am | #

      I imagine sooner or later, something will be revealed to make Ruth at least somewhat redeemable. Perhaps, if the author would like to be creative, a drunken night of partying will leave Ruth the only person left to drag a certain former cheerleader and an experimenting bible-thumper back to the dorms.

      • Mr. Jones
        Mr. Jones
        March 9, 2011 at 3:15 am | #

        Yeah, I’m guessing Ruth was constantly dumped on by the queen bee cheerleader types in high school or something. She sees Billie acting the same way and decides to put her in her place. It’s wrong of her, but I wouldn’t say she’s evil.

        • Janos
          Janos
          March 9, 2011 at 3:37 am | #

          She Physically assaulted someone, stole their property AND Ruined it.. AFTER breaking into their room to get it Yes that is pretty evil and if not evil a huge bongo move

      • begbert2
        begbert2
        March 9, 2011 at 11:01 am | #

        And after she’s thoroughly redeemed and in a defial of physics we all love her, then she’ll get hit by that truck.

      • zuche
        zuche
        March 9, 2011 at 12:14 pm | #

        I’m not sure the fan base could handle that particular threesome.

        • The E-man
          The E-man
          March 9, 2011 at 12:26 pm | #

          We would explode from the sheer Perverse Sexual Lust of the situation! IT WOULD BE AWESOME

        • saucialist
          saucialist
          March 9, 2011 at 2:21 pm | #

          TOTALLY AWESOME. But maybe I’m biased by PSL on Ruth (which is getting awkward since she roots for the Leaves…)

    • Jimbo
      Jimbo
      March 9, 2011 at 1:37 pm | #

      Kudos for that at the end! Run over by a truck indeed!

  22. shoeboxjeddy
    shoeboxjeddy
    March 9, 2011 at 2:06 am | #

    Ah yes, fair fight is the term commonly used for when you trick someone into overcommiting into the martial arts move you secretly mastered. Because we all know cheerleaders are skilled fist fighters so any amount of training and premeditated violence is justified. I would strongly advise Billie to leave, but as she’s super flawed, she will not and Ruth will beat her up. HOPEFULLY, the other residents will turn on her and she’ll have lost anything she hoped to gain from this sad little exercise. If Willis is going lame on this, they will be “cowed with fear” of the RAs ability to beat them up and not even think of… I dunno telling her superiors what’s going on.

    • Crimson Magic
      Crimson Magic
      March 9, 2011 at 2:27 am | #

      Kim Possible has taught us that precautions must be taken when dealing with cheerleaders. If any naked mole-rats appear, Ruth better run for her life.

    • gangler
      gangler
      March 9, 2011 at 7:41 am | #

      There are no fair fights. Fighting with a pre-established and understood set of rules isn’t a fight, it’s a sparring match.

      There are two types of people who ask for a fair fight. Fools, and those who would take advantage of fools.

      If I had a nickel for every time I heard the “Dude, I thought this was a fist fight.” line, I don’t know what I’d do with them. Like I’m here to indulge their need to assert their manliness or some such BS.

      Really, the “Fair Fight” is the most pretentious idiotic set of bullshit cheaply available. Like we’re all gonna adhere to some kind of samurai code when we engage in violence. You notice it’s always the freakishly able who preach the virtues of fighting fair too. Of course the jock thinks I should fight him on equal terms. He’s twice my size and can crush a walnut with his grip.

      Anyway, I better cut this rant short. Suffice it to say that the very notion of a fair fight is inherently ridiculous, self contradictory, and blatantly rigged.

      • dchorror
        dchorror
        March 9, 2011 at 8:15 am | #

        A fair fight is starting on equal ground, with both sides knowing a fight has started. Not a lot of rules come into play. Honestly, fair fights do exist. They are just not favorable fights. There are other ways to deal with the jock without getting into a fight, but if you want to fight him, he wants to do so fairly cause he doesn’t want to get stabbed or shot.

        If you can’t fight the jock on equal terms, you should reconsider fighting at all in the first place.

        • gangler
          gangler
          March 9, 2011 at 9:18 am | #

          Lol. I’ll have you know that I have never once initiated a fight. I don’t enjoy fighting. It’s not something I do. When the man’s pummeling me though, I don’t have a hell of a lot of options. So sue me if I grab a nearby rock or engage in some other form of “Foul Play”. I never asked for any of it. I never wanted any of it. I never consented to his archaic rules.

          Once again, the difference between a fight and a sparring match. Sparring is a form of sport. A fight is nothing so pretty.

        • gangler
          gangler
          March 9, 2011 at 9:38 am | #

          Really, the way people talk about the attempt to physically damage another, or the attempt to prevent ones own damage depending on which side you’re on, as if it’s some kind of performance just seems ridiculous to me.

          No, he doesn’t want to get stabbed. That’s why it’s a good way to prevent him from coming back. I’m not looking to turn this into a frequent occurrence.

          I do feel that Billie should put more effort into finding a nonviolent solution. There’s an extensive list of reasons, both ethical and practical, that this isn’t appropriate. Once she’s attacking someone though, sucker punch beats the hell out of announcing your intentions beforehand.

          • Tuna
            Tuna
            March 9, 2011 at 12:29 pm | #

            So what if Billie had a gun or knife and just shot or stabbed Ruth, “relatively” unprovoked? Still beats the hell out of announcing your intentions beforehand, right?

            Fighting is not always just about hurting someone else as much as possible, especially in “fair fight” situations. It is, in fact, a sparring match by any other name. It’s trying to prove who is “better” and to prove a point by testing toughness, strength and fighting ability, and to take out aggression, of course.

            What you describe as a “fight” sounds more like a situation where someone is trying to kill you or put you into the hospital, and I assure you that those are not everyone’s intentions during a fight.

          • dchorror
            dchorror
            March 9, 2011 at 1:16 pm | #

            Oh, I wholeheartedly agree that Billie should tackle this nonviolently. I was just pointing out that a fair fight is when two people don’t bring knives to a fist fight.

            So you’re going to stab the jock. Who’s to say he won’t stab you next or shoot you? At least when you punch him, he’ll tend towards punching you.

            But it takes two(or more) to fight. In our example above, Ruth has demonstrated a willingness not to fight. If Billie walks away, there is no fight. If either attacks and the other doesn’t retaliate, there is no fight. If someone’s wailing on you, it’s not a fight until you strike back.

            If you don’t want a fair fight, don’t agree to one. But don’t be surprised when you get stabbed if you bring a knife to a fist fight.

          • gangler
            gangler
            March 9, 2011 at 10:02 pm | #

            Fair enough. I’ve never seen a fight be what you two describe. Quite frankly any situation where I could stop a fight just by refusing to participate it didn’t happen. It’s not fun. It’s painful. Even if you win you still get hurt.

            Anyway, I really do just have a hang-up on the whole “Fair Fight” situation. I’ve only seen that clause of combat brought up when I’ve done pretty sensible things like kick someone while he’s down or knee him in the gut after being attacked without provocation. I just want the guy to stop moving so I can start running.

            Personally, I don’t actually use knives and such. Seems like there’s too much potential for disaster once they knock it out of my hand. It’s suspicious to carry a knife on you anyway.

            Anyway, I can accept that there are some social circles that would use fighting for less malicious means. If either party here lacked malicious intent I’d be more inclined to believe I was seeing it, but I’ll keep an eye open. See how it goes.

            Ruth really does have no excuse for taking part in the fight in the sense you list. She has the power to leave at any time, and she seems capable of fending Billie off without causing harm. I’ll agree that in this case, both characters are aggressors.

  23. Ridureyu
    Ridureyu
    March 9, 2011 at 2:31 am | #

    Im still voting for Akuma!!!

  24. Zap
    Zap
    March 9, 2011 at 3:38 am | #

    Actually, I’m betting Sal just comes along out of nowhere with the signed papers and then Billie never sees her again.

    Failing that, somebody restrains Billie and advises her to go over Ruth’s head. If Ruth seriously gets out of this one without some form of consequence in that case, the rest of the cast is in for an interesting school year.

  25. Cyth
    Cyth
    March 9, 2011 at 3:58 am | #

    Honestly, if this is like most colleges, they’d both get shit since there’s usually a zero tolerance policy about fighting. Wouldn’t matter who was right or wrong, or in this case wrong or more in the wrong.

    • gangler
      gangler
      March 9, 2011 at 8:08 am | #

      Do colleges really care who fights who? It hasn’t come up since I started going to college. Fighting just seems like a kind of highschool thing anyway. I’d just assumed they let the students take care of themselves and any violence issues would just go to the police if the victim decided intervention was needed. It had never occurred to me that one there was even someone within a college who’s domain it would be to listen to such reports.

      I assume there are people who still fight in college somewhere. Seems like a high stakes game once you can be charged as an adult though.

  26. John
    John
    March 9, 2011 at 4:16 am | #

    Man, you guys take this comic strip way too serious-like.

    • The E-man
      The E-man
      March 9, 2011 at 12:39 pm | #

      hahaha have you READ the comments on previous strips? EVERYTHING is over-analyzed and taken too seriously by the commenting readers! Of course, we have jokes and the like but we analyze every outcome and possibility of the action in the current strip.

      • SB
        SB
        March 10, 2011 at 10:39 am | #

        David’s got it made, he doesn’t need to write the comic so long as people keep giving every possible scenario in a grab-bag format!

        /jealous

  27. Plan D
    Plan D
    March 9, 2011 at 4:31 am | #

    Anybody else reminded of that scene in Dead Wood where Calamity Jane tells Al Swearengen that she’s, “… not afraid of him,” and he responds, “Yeah. You are,” and then Jane totally freaking loses it?

    Anyway. I thought I should announce the formation of “Oh Rillie”, my new Billie/Ruth shipping faction.

    • Zap
      Zap
      March 9, 2011 at 4:56 am | #

      o rly?

  28. Robert in San Diego
    Robert in San Diego
    March 9, 2011 at 4:49 am | #

    Does Roz have a camera going on this? I know about helmet cameras (cyclist), but a condom hat camera would be Roz’ style, even though each individually is over the top.

  29. KHNO
    KHNO
    March 9, 2011 at 5:54 am | #

    Hmm just wondering… couldn’t it be that the cheerleader uniform is not Billie’s but Ruth’s? See, if that would make sense that they get along after that.

    • The E-man
      The E-man
      March 9, 2011 at 12:41 pm | #

      Read the archive…the DRAGONS cheerleader outfit was Billie’s.

  30. ziggy78eog
    ziggy78eog
    March 9, 2011 at 9:06 am | #

    Do not back down, Billie; thanks to that picture that Ruth handed you, you now have evidence to give to the HD.

  31. Ziggy Stardust
    Ziggy Stardust
    March 9, 2011 at 9:16 am | #

    I’ve seen way better fights at my school, to be sure. At the last one, a girl slammed another girl’s head into a wall of lockers.

  32. Ziggy Stardust
    Ziggy Stardust
    March 9, 2011 at 9:18 am | #

    I kind of wish Billie would just have at her. I’d like to see Ruth in a fightin’ mood again.

  33. cj
    cj
    March 9, 2011 at 10:17 am | #

    GO LEAFS GO!! willis, you sly dog…trying to hide that in there, thinking it would escape my attention…

  34. Ezzy
    Ezzy
    March 9, 2011 at 12:40 pm | #

    Great. Roz still has the dildo on her head.

  35. BriGuy
    BriGuy
    March 9, 2011 at 1:25 pm | #

    Boooooring. Make with the rending of garments! 😛

  36. Bill M.
    Bill M.
    March 9, 2011 at 2:01 pm | #

    Ruth looks sad in the last two panels. I realize it’s her hair lines extending into her glasses, but still it makes me thinks she’s sad that Billie didn’t swing at her.

  37. Shift
    Shift
    March 9, 2011 at 2:58 pm | #

    “So that’s how it’s going to be”? Well, what does she expect was going to happen after a point? She’s been pushing and threatening Billie for days now. Its not exactly shocking that she snaps.

    And I find it funny that Ruth is talking about a “fair fight”. She hasn’t been playing fair since she was introduced.

    • zuche
      zuche
      March 9, 2011 at 3:55 pm | #

      No, she was quite fair to Billie in their first encounter. Billie threatened to destroy her. Ruth gave her the chance to try. Billie took the opportunity and paid for it, and Ruth at stopped at knocking the wind out of her.

      Holding her wardrobe hostage, sure, illegal, but unfair? Was the task of talking to someone Billie saw in class between the time of the request and the present somehow beyond a college student’s ability? She even met Sal before class, but didn’t make any effort to talk with her then.

      Combine a reasonable assignment with an excessive penalty and the result is still up to the person that isn’t doing the job. Seems fair enough.

      • dchorror
        dchorror
        March 9, 2011 at 4:59 pm | #

        Billie tried voicing concern about such a task, however, since she’d only seen Sal once and she hadn’t come back to the room. Combined with the fact that she vandalized the uniform on the same day she gave the task, it seems a little unfair. Had she actually given a week to do the job, I could see it as being fair. Not right, but fair.

  38. Commander Clash
    Commander Clash
    March 9, 2011 at 3:11 pm | #

    Ruth should make another sucker punch. Preferably to a tender spot…the chestial area seems a perfect target.

  39. Mud
    Mud
    March 9, 2011 at 4:58 pm | #

    Next frame is a sucker punch from Ruth as Billie turns back around.

  40. Lokitsu
    Lokitsu
    March 9, 2011 at 5:35 pm | #

    One thought in the whole “Did Ruth ruin the shirt or not?” debate.

    If those are stitched-on letters, couldn’t they be sewn back on after this is resolved? I ask this as someone who doesn’t sew.

    • Skye
      Skye
      March 9, 2011 at 6:00 pm | #

      The letters weren’t un-stitched out. The suggested idea is that Ruth somehow CUT the entire part of the shirt. It leaves a hole in the shirt. THAT can’t be fixed.

  41. Vazhkatsi
    Vazhkatsi
    March 9, 2011 at 11:22 pm | #

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the fight was avoided somehow. but if they do fight, i also wouldn’t be surprised to see it a little more even this time around, tricks like pulling a reversal only work once if the person isn’t expecting it, as Billie obviously was not, this time she is unlikely to try a flying punch, and commit herself wholly to one attack, which would give her a bit of the upper hand when it comes to hand to hand combat, since she seems to have more strength and probably decent speed and reflexes from years as a cheerleader.

    Even so, comics seem to exaggerate the violence present in schools, i’ve seen maybe one fight in my college years, and that was 2 really drunk guys fighting over some girl who had dumped both of them. In your experience is violence really this present in the educational setting? R.A. training is all about de-escalating violence and arbitrating arguments so they don’t end in violence, Ruth may be trying to set herself up as some unholy terror so that her dormies don’t cause trouble, but she just comes across as a heartless person.

  42. Kernanator
    Kernanator
    June 6, 2011 at 3:24 am | #

    Roz in her condom hat is hilarious.

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It's #webcomicday? We have a special day??? Well, my name is Pat McHoarney and I draw 69 Mouse-Ear Blvd, a multigenerational story about women who all have sexy legs and probably other features. There was a grandmother, but she wasn't hot and so she died off-panel.
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Elizabeth Holmes is in prison for defrauding investors through her blood-testing company, Theranos. Her partner, Billy Evans, is now trying to raise money for a company that describes itself as “the future of diagnostics.” nyti.ms/3FbtZm9
Elizabeth Holmes and Billy Evans, sitting closely on a couch. A headline reads:
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Chris McFeely @chrismcfeely.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
That's the most upsetting LEGO Thing minifig possible
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LEGO Marvel Studios The Fantastic Four: First Steps Fantastic Four vs. Galactus will release June 1st ($59.99) - bit.ly/3F4uRci #ad
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David M Willis! @damnyouwillis.bsky.social ⋅ 3d
what's going on with tariffs right now i dunno, what time is it today
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